Can't wait until this back and forth takes off full steam...whether you support them or not, pissing off the Israelis is always a sure fire way to make a mess
Israel is always a target to the peaceful muslims that want to{kill the jews} I put my money on the Democratic State of Israel. Really anyone with any common sense can see that Israel is the only true ally of the USA in the Middle East! We will always support them with diplomacy and logistics as that is all that is needed the Israeli military can easily handle the fanatics in tehran with US air and ground forces.
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TomTom, that is exactly what I was thinking. I certainly don't support Iran, but the fact is, the two countries are at war on a small scale. It may not be a declared war, but it is war. That part of the world will likely never see peace again until somebody drops a whole bunch of nukes and everybody there is dead. The only other way it will stop is if aliens from space attack the earth and all people have to unite to defeat them. With a little luck we will have a Will Smith who can save the world from those horrible alien creatures.
Iran is like Nazi Germany in the 1930's .They have attacked on 6 continents using terrorism.They deserve to be defeated and overtrown .Israel acts on self defense just like Enlgand did after they were so viciously attacked by the nazis.They took the battle to Germany of course.Or can you be neutral with nazi Germany and imperial Japan who were so obviously the agrresors ?Their leaders were hung to prove it.Well Its the same with Iran and their leaders who will either be hung by their own people or die in their bunkers like the nazis did.Responging to aggression is not tit for tat. Iran is the agressor.Ask most of the countries in the mideast!!
Let's see Israel targets Iranian scientist........they succeed. Iran targets Israeli foreign officials........they fail. I hope that's an indication of Iran's abilities with their nuclear ambitions.
Jonathan - We usually agree with each other but on the subject of Indian muslims, i'd beg to differ from you.
Indian muslims are one of the most moderate secular muslims in all of muslim-dom. It's true however, that a certain sections of indian muslims - especially in places like Kashmir and some parts of Hyderabad and in the muslim belt of Deoband in northern India have been radicalized due to Pakistani and Bangladeshi influences.
The educated middleclass muslims in India form the bedrock of Indian intelligencia and intellectuals and are highly visible in traditionally liberal professions like acting, dramatics, writing and entertainment. Salman Rushdie, A.R. Rehman, Ustad Amzad Ali Khan, Are some of the names that come to mind.
Well Iran may be like 1930's Germany.... but Israel is no England.
Israel is acting like a diluted 1930's Russia, with the forced reloction of people and then bulldozing down their homes to create room for jewish settlements. Conducting terriosts acts in other countries and then try to pay the victim when the payback comes.
Israel and Iran may go to war and I hope the US stays out of it. Maybe after a few hundred thousand dead on both sides - they will see how stupid they both are and decide to love their children more then they hate each other.
But, that's not going to happen - so let's get Vince McMann to put it on "pay-per-view" and the money raised can go to pay down the National Debt.
"Are you ready to Ruuuuummmmbbblllleeee in the Desert"?
MrIndia - bull f...ing $hit. Your nirvana on the Indian Muslims is dead wrong. They are thee most persecuted bunch in India. Let's not blame our neighbors that easily. The naxalites are coming to knock sense in our thick rears.
When partition was to be done on the basis of religion, Muslims in the current India voted for Pakistan and they stayed back in India.
Muslims formed eight percent then and now they form 14 percent.
Like every where, if Muslims form more than five percent in a street or place, then that places starts going down fast. Higher the number faster the slide.
See the history of Bongladesh, another liability on earth.
They have persecuted minorities all along.
Now the same criminals have sneaked into India and the liabilities start all their jobs again! There are more than 30 million liabilities from Bongladesh itself!
Forget India for a moment.
You see similar trends in the US, Britain and European nations with Muslims' arrival for "better life" from their hell holes.
The last thing the United States should do is get involved in this war between two terrorist nations. It would be the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas.
Al, never forget Iran Embassy hostages. Max, yeah Iran would never think of doing that, and what would the rest of you do with a country who wants to eliminate you from history?
Why doesnt Isreal understand the very simple premise of
DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU'D HAVE DONE TO YOU
it's not that hard, you blow up their scientists and officials...guess what, they'll try to blow up your officials and diplomats.
I have no sympathy...Isreal is just doing what they think is necessary to preserve Isreal, and Iran is just doing what they think is necessary to preserve Iran.
and both, in my book are complete idiots (as is the US in much of what they do).
it's a shame adult boys tend to run the world, and most of the paranoid armies that wreak havoc on the rest of us...
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Iran needs to understand it can't win this petty fighting and spy games. Israel and the Massad have been doing it well for way too many years. If they wanted to, they could probably get to the mullahs, Ayatollah, or their president in assassination.
wlee - you dont know much about the history of the Iran hostage situation and how Reagans administration worked it out with the Iran mullahs not to release the hostages until it tanked Jimmy Carters election.
Iran Contra sound at all familiar?
Guns for hostages?
We are just as currupt as they are...probably more so.
And I cant help but wonder if that saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" implies we are the jews worst enemy, not those "hostile muslim nations"
and think about it...how hostile would you be if muslim nations/armies kept invading America and occupying it...just like we keep doing over there...Iraq, Afghanistan...and now most of you are cheering on an invasion and occupation of Iran.
All of you claiming that Iran is justified in these attacks because of Israel's hits against Iranian nuclear scientists need to get a grip! Israel targeted people directly involved in Iran's nuclear program after it had become clear that Iran is not going to cooperate with the rest of the players in the game. Here we see Iran targeting diplomats simply because they are Israeli. The people Iran is targeting don't threaten Iran or mankind's very existence. The fact that Iran would even target the wife and children of a diplomat shows how "peaceful" this regime really is. And to those of you who claim that Iran has never carried out any violence in a foreign country need to pull your heads out of the sand.
I love all the "eye for an eye" people...Yeah...Problem is that even Iran can't succeed at trying to take that eye...It's quite funny....
The Government of Iran is worthless and if their people can't rein them in they will be dealt with....It is only a matter of time...And then all of you "oh poor Iran" people wiol wail and cry just like you're at a Muslim funeral....
Jessica, so Reagan worked out a deal with Iranian Mullahs just to sabotage Carter OK.....and all this time I thought it had something to do with us installing the Shah how about that WTC?
What do we know about the target of these newest attacks? Perhaps Israel is now carrying out attacks against its own 'collaborators', and blaming it on Iran...
It seems extremely unlikely that Iran would use the very same methods to kill as were used against it.
When playing a game of life and death........ never leave your assets unprotected.... unprotected you will get pokerized.... Israeli leadership pull your heads out of your butts and get back in the game.
One could say that it started with the murder of the Isreali Olympic team in the 70's at the Munich massacre. Both groups seem to have a taste for each other's blood. The Israelis are at a 150:1 numerical disadvantage, howerver.
In reality, it wasn't Isrealis who did the assasination, it appears to be MEK. It seems odd to me that there is a connection.
Welcome to the modern day way of war. Where Battlefields are relics and the war wages everywhere.
How do I say this...I'm not taking Iran's side, but Israel shouldn't have expected anything less. If this is the kind of war they (Israel AND Iran) want to fight, let the games begin. Iran already has a set back. They either don't have the money or the tech or the training to kill a target without killing innocent people in the process. They wounded four people in this attack alone. Meanwhile, Israel is flying missiles into windows and throwing bombs at targeted cars from motorcycles. If Iran/Hezbollah keeps this up, they may be painted as the aggressor at the end of all of this.
Hello folks, our country is broke and weary of war. If Israel wants to start a war, let them finish it alone. The elite are ratcheting up the rhetoric and the warmonger sheeple are getting sucked in to the propaganda. Let’s take an objective look at the Iran situation. Ask yourself, what would happen if Iran attacked an oil refinery in the US? Of course we would go into Iran and bomb their country. Well, we recently bombed an Iranian oil refinery and they didn’t retaliate. We issued sanctions on their oil and export industries and they didn’t retaliate. Israel is killing their scientists and they didn’t retaliate. Why is that?
While appearing vulnerable they took control of the most sophisticated drone on the planet downloaded and deciphered the encrypted information and have our Military intelligence (I know it’s an oxymoron) people worried that top secret information has been compromised.
Do you believe that the Iranian’s have the capability to bring down a state of the art drone and have it land where they want it to and down load and decipher complex encrypted code? It appears that Iran has been getting help and lots of it from a very sophisticated source or sources. The US already declared war on Iran by issuing sanctions and covertly bombing them but they don’t dare overtly go in because it would jeopardize China’s oil flow, piss off Russia, Turkey and the local Arab countries. This would also force Iraq to support Iran. We got kicked out of Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan is trying to get us to leave their country. The Middle East is kicking us out which means we are running out of staging areas and NATO support for an attack on Iran. The US tried to concoct fraudulent excuses to stir up public support to go into Iran. There was the laughable assassination ruse of the Mexican drug cartel and the more unbelievable law suit stating Iran was part of 9/11. There were also claims that Iran attacked Iraq, etc. The elite are running out of false flags. Iran is out foxing the US because they have the world divided and we can’t command an organized response. The UN Security Council voted against the US a few weeks ago. China and Russia have gone on record that if Iran is attacked they would support Iran. The world is getting fed up and bored with our Imperialism and the elite who orchestrate war.
We have been fighting urban wars of attrition for over 10 years now and we are broke, our allies are broke. We have spent close to 3 Trillion dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq. We can’t afford another expensive protracted war a half a world away and the US citizens are sick of war. There is 85% support for Ron Paul amongst our troops because they are sick of war and he’s promised to end the wars. The lengthy wars have depleted our manpower, equipment, and our political capital.
Last week the Census Department of the Federal Government reported that “50% of the nation’s population were living below the poverty line”. Our nation’s wealth has been exhausted by war so that we could secure profits for the banking, oil, and Military/Industrial cartels. We never saw a dime of it and never will because the 1% elite feel they have a Divine Right at our expense. You know their motto, privatize profits and socialize losses. They truly can’t squeeze much more from the peasantry but they will try.
Our government has been trying to get Iran to do something stupid so that we can attack them but they won’t do it. Iran isn’t Iraq or Afghanistan. They haven’t done anything, aren’t weak and they aren’t bluffing. They are asserting their right as a sovereign nation and have the support of some very powerful countries. If we attack Iran, the war will be at our doorstep and then we will see how brave you who espouse war respond. When you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
"Any terrorist attack is condemned (by Iran) and we strongly reject the untrue comments by an Israeli official," the official IRNA news agency quoted the Islamic Republic's ambassador to New Delhi Mehdi Nabizadeh as saying on Monday. "These accusations are untrue and sheer lies, like previous times."
The attacks appeared to have been carried out with sticky bombs attached to cars by magnets. Similar weapons were used against Iran's nuclear scientists, feeding suspicions that the new bombings were a retaliation crafted to mirror those attacks.
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that both countries are being played against each other by the terrorist groups each one are supposedly using to make the hit on each other.
This looks to me, like a false flag attack. If it is a False Flag attack, then Mossad agents most likely killed Israeli diplomats in order to provide an excuse for Israel to attack Iran by the middle of the week.
Israel has tried this sort of thing before, back in 1967 with the attack , by Israel, on the peaceful USS Liberty. The only reason that failed was that the Liberty was able to get a radio message out. Not one single Israeli went to jail over that by the way.
What if we could prove that there was no God, would they still fight? Is it really religion, ideology, or just hatred causing all the bloodshed. Just a thought!
In 2008 Pakistan attacked India by send terrorists to Mumbai where they murdered 164 people and wounded 308. Last week Pakistan issued a notice that it wanted in on the Iran/Israel confict.
Israel should attack Iranian diplomats in Venezuela and kill two birds with one stone.
Honestly I worry a lot more about India and Pakistan than Iran and Israel.
Israel will seek to end it quickly they do not want a long drawn out war, and from what I understand they are very capable. Iran is 20 years behind them.
IMJ3- None I can think of...I think all of these leaders killed and oppressed their own people, for the most part, Iran is/wants to take out the US and Israel. Most of the killing went on within their own borders.
Bigotry and then deceits and heaps of lies to cover up the dirtiest acts are part and parcel of Islamic cult!
Pakistan was formed on the basis that Muslims and non-Muslims can't live together. Then there was voting during British times. Muslims all over India voted for Pakistan.
The very Muslims who voted for Pakistan stayed back in India. Are not these Muslims traitors’ and Trojan horses who want to make more Pakistans as in other places?
In two years after the formation of Pakistan in 1947, 23 percent of non-Muslims were reduced to hardly three percent through massive genocides unprecedented in the history of mankind.
In the current Bongladesh, another liability on earth, Hindus formed about 40 percent. Now they hardly form less than 10 percent.
In the last century, fates of Armenians were similar in 1910s in Turkish region.
Tell me: who has world patent on bigotry and lies.
Most of the times, mistakes are due to non-Muslims.
In that case why Muslims are there in infidel nations like the US, Britain and other European nations?
Why don't they pack their dirtiest baggage and go back to some Muslim nation?
This was just a setup by Israel to try and play the "VICTIM" role as usual.
Lets say Iran did have somthing to do with it.... so WHAT?? As an American we care for all human life and not just one race or religion. Israel has murdered numerous men, women, and children and never apologize for it, but when somthing happens to Israelis its supposed to be different? Israel will have to learn that trying to spread Jewish supremacy will only end up in violence just as they have shown their neighbors terrorism, terrorism will come to them.
This has nothing to do with the United States and if we dont control this virus called Israel, than we should have nothing to do with the retaliation that occurs to Israel either.
I'm with US citizen-701707's post from Feb. 13, 2012 8:40Am EST all the way but I may have one slight difference with him/her...........that just because they're Jew haters doesn't make them racists. I just think they're Nazis. Most people who hate the Jews have never had a Jew do anything bad to them. So where does all that hate come from? It comes from somewhere deep down in their dark souls. I'm not a Jew but I wish I were. You see, my best friend was a Jew. He loved me so much that he died for me. His name is Jesus. And now I can just hear all the wining, left winging liberal, pack animals ready to attack and who will leave a thousand bashings for what I'm about to write, but who cares what they say. They may say things like, "off with his head, off with his head!!!" Don't the Muslims use serrated knives to saw people's heads off? Or maybe they'll say, "Crucify! Crucify!" They don't know (or reject) history's lessons so they are doomed to repeat it. They are so far left that they are confused. The goal of the demon Muslims since Islam began (Islam means "peace". Yeah, right. Give me a break! Their "peace" means FORCED submission and surrender to Allah, the "moon god" or the "sword god" until all the world is under forced submission to Al-lilah) and even before that when their half-breed ancestor, wild donkey boy Ishmael has been in trying to get even with Isaac and his descendants. The Bible says that the name "Ishmael" means "wild ass" or "wild donkey", and that his hand would be against his brothers' hands and his brothers' hands would be against his hand. And in the face of his brethren, he would die. And he did. So, absolutely, one of the liberal commentators on this page was correct when he stated that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword". I guess that even a broken clock can be right twice a day. Blaming Israel is always a convenient excuse for ignorant people who don't know any better. Take Afghanistan for instance. Now, there's a country where Muslims have been in charge and what have they done? First, they got rid of any Jews there. Then the Christians were tortured, killed, and driven out next. Then they got rid of any other competing religions. And when they expelled all the rest of the "infidels", who did the Muslims kill? The Muslims started killing each other, you dummies! So yes, he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. The Ishmaelites have been making the claim for thousands of years that they were the blessed nation but it's only because they do NOT know their own history (or perhaps, have concealed and perverted that information). It was Isaac who received the blessing (Deuteronomy 32:5-7) and the land as his inheritance and NOT Ishmael. And because of this, those jealous frigging Ishmaelites have been plotting, scheming, and murdering ever since, trying to destroy Israel, whom the land belonged to originally and divinely. As a side note, it's just too bad that Abraham and Sarah were so desperate for a child that she would condone and allow Abraham's impregnating that Egyptian slave, Hagar the horrible. He just had to go and screw around with Hagar, you know? That's really where all this trouble began. That little half-breed Ishmael has been creating trouble for thousands of years. Dysfunctional families really do suck. But let's get one fact straight, the land belongs to Israel. Now, for all you ignorant, liberal, knee-jerk reactionists, let's study a little history, alright? Stop smoking your legalized marijuana for a few hours and you just may be able to learn something or let something seep into that drug addled brain of yours. Don't get your panties in a bunch. It's time to wear your panties like a big girl. Who is Allah? Before Mohammed arrived on the scene, the Arabic people had a polytheistic system of 360 different Gods that they worshipped (talk about schizophrenia). Mohammed saw how successful the Jews and Christians were in worshipping one God (the true God of the universe, I have to editorialize). So he convinced the Arabs to pare it down to only one of those gods. And who did they choose as their one "God"? Ironically, they chose "Allah", or "Al-ilah", the "moon" god or the "sword" god. So yes, he who lives by the sword dies by the sword. In fact, the name "Allah" was previously used by pre-Islamic, pagan Meccans and poly-theistic Arabs as a reference to a god who was not considered the sole divinity, having associates and companions, sons and daughters, a concept that was deleted under the process of Islamization. The history of Mohammed himself is equally ridiculous and sad and I feel sorry for all the poor, ignorant people throughout history who have been hoodwinked by the lies. Did you know that Mohammed claimed to hear "voices" and his wife told him "you are a prophet greater than Moses"? Subsequently, he went to the Jewish people living in the region and told them, "I am a prophet greater than Moses". So the Jewish people told him, "you are crazy. Moses was a prince forty years in the cruel Pharaoh's court, a shepherd forty years under Jethro, and at age 80 he got his marching orders from God to deliver the Israelites out of bondage. 120 years in service to God and here you are, a fifty year old illiterate, nomad, camel driver telling us that you're greater than Moses?" So the Jews sent him away. Next, he went to the Christians living in Mecca and told them, "I'm a prophet greater than Jesus Christ". And of course, the Christians would have nothing to do with him. So he went to the Arabs and told them the same things and they accepted him as their prophet. Too bad. By the way, in the Greek language, the word for "voices" is "demon", our English word demon. He heard demonic voices in his head. He was possessed by an evil spirit. Or maybe he was an epilipetic. Another point of fact is how the Koran came to be written. It could not have even been written by the Muslims because they were illiterate, even for hundreds of years after the death of Mohammed. Now, depending upon which version of the account you have read, the Muslims were said to have kidnapped (not surprising at all) a Jewish man of letters who was able to read and write or a Christian missionary and forced either one to write the Koran. It is a sick joke book. I'd like to get my hands on whoever wrote it because of the trouble it has stirred for centuries with other religions the world over. Whoever wrote this sick joke book should have been hanged. It has caused the deaths of untold millions of people. Another deception that many Muslims and westerners alike are brainwashed by is the phrase, "Allahu Akbar", which the Muslims (and a Time Magazine article that I read years ago claimed) chant in their mosques and say that the term means, "God is great". Now, don't we all know that God is great? Don't we believers all believe that God is great? But when Muslims (and Time Magazine) say thats what the term refers to, don't you believe it? Beware of $3 dollar Clinton bills. It's actually a diminutive (or comparative) phrase whereby Muslims are saying that their "God" is greater than the God of the Jew or the Christian. So now, here's a question for all of you reading this............in the Bible, who said he was greater than God before he fell from grace? Satan. The god of the Muslims is Satan. Anyone who would tell their followers to murder innocent people and that they would go to heaven and receive 72 virgins is definitely evil and satanic in nature. The Palestinians pay $25,000 to the families of any successful suicide bomber. I'm reminded of a news story from well over 10 years ago about a Palestinian, Muslim family living in St. Louis, MO. They had a 16 year old daughter who was dating a black, Christian boy in that city and when her parents found out about it, they murdered their own daughter. The girl called 911 and while they were beating their daughter to death, the 911 operator could hear the parents quoting the following verse over and over as they slaughtered her.............."Believers and Muslims, take neither the Jew nor the Christian as your friend. If you take them as your friend, you will become just like them!" Allah does not guide the wrongdoer!" Those are some really nice parents, those Muslims. With parents like this, who needs enemies? I recently moved here to Colorado but I am originally from, and resided my entire life (44 years) in the Detroit, MI area where lives the highest Muslim population in the United States. So don't any of you liberals ever dare to tell this man that they are good and peaceful and that their religion is good and peaceful, too. I dealt with their nefarious ways for over four decades and you will not brainwash me into following your liberal rants. Another deception of Islam is this business that Muslims and Jihadists (holy war, better yet, holy bs) will tell you that they also believe in and revere Jesus Christ. Do not be deceived, especially you young, impressionable people. In the Hadith (the Hadith is a commentary to the Koran like the Talmud is a commentary to the Old Testament. Please pardon the comparison. I feel like I'm being very sacreligious comparing it to the real book of love), it makes mention of the Muslim Jesus Christ. Now, many believers from all religions agree today that we're living in the last days and that some major, world changing events will occur very soon. But again, do not be deceived by Islam. In the Hadith, according to the Muslims, when the Jesus Christ of Islam returns, he will go up to the mountain and pray with 144,000 believers (not sure if I'm right about that number). Then he will come down from the mountain and break all the Christian crosses, destroy all the churches and Jewish synagogues and kill all the Jews. Also, any Christians who will not surrender and submit to Allah at this time will also be killed. According to this commentary, some will temporarily escape and hide behind rocks and trees. The following verse from the Hadith is often quoted as to what will occur next................the rocks and trees will suddenly come to life and have mouths to speak. They will say, "Oh Muslim pursuer, there is a Jew or a Christian hiding behind me! Come and kill him!" lol Now I ask all of you, is this a religion of peace and love? Don't be deceived. Their Jesus Christ and the real Jesus Christ are two very different figures. Their religion is a religion of pacifism. I'm not from the Vietnam war generation but ask anyone who lived through that time what the word "pacified" means to them. Whenever news commentators reported that a Viet Cong village had been "pacified", it meant that American troops had napalmed the crap out of the village, leveling it to the ground. Again, it's nothing more than terrorism and forced submission and surrender to their god Satan (er, Allah). Now, let's do a little examination of Saddam Hussein and the rest of the Muslim world's dealings with respect to it's treatment of Israel. It's not widely known that Hussein had an uncle who joined the Nazi army during WWII and fought for Adolph Hitler's goons. Uncle Hussein was definitely a Hitler devotee, as was his nephew who took a page from Mein Kampf and the Nazi play book when you examine the historical record. Iran and the rest of the Muslim terrorists are all Nazis when it comes to their treatment of Israel. This has been their goal and directive all along, NOT to drive the Jews from Israel, but to drive them into the sea and totally annihilate the Jewish people, just like Adolph Hitler. Case in point, several years ago when Israel had some very liberal cabinet members and president in their midst, they went to the "peace" table with Yasser (the Rat) Arafat and met about 98% of this devil's demands for land, concessions, etc. Yet, on the day of the "peace" signing, the Rat walked away from the table and refused to sign it. Because it's not about land, peace, oil or anything else. His only goal was Israel's total destruction. It is not enough for the Muslims to get the Jews out of Israel. They want them out of existence (along with all the other idiots who don't know any better, including some Christian leaders! Unbelievable! It goes to show how Satan has even crept into theological seminaries) They forget the admonition God spoke thousands of years ago when he told Moses, "I will bless those who bless you (Israel) and I will curse those who curse you." American political leaders and all of you other liberals had better pay heed to this or your life will turn to crap. Oh wait, it probably already has. Or how about the mass partying that went on for days in the Middle East after the World Trade Centers and thousands of lives were lost? God is a very meticulous bookkeeper. As for those who poke fun at Benjamin Netanyahu, he's the only one who knows what it takes to deal with terrorists. He tried advising American leaders a few years ago that the only language a terrorist understands is violence. In other words, they will never understand reasoning or peacful discussions about what can be done. If they hit you, you must pound them harder. If they take 10 innocent lives on the street or in a hotel, then you must take 1000 lives and even then they will not listen. And of course, it's difficult to do this when the terrorists routinely take innocent women and children hostage to protect themselves and hole up in a church, mosque, or synagogue, cowards that they are. That's why America is in the mess it is. We'll need to have a presence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the rest of the Middle East until the end of time. That's another reason we're going bankrupt, letting the lilly liberals (Republican and Democrats) spending money trying to help the rest of the world. There are so many prostitutes on both sides of the political aisle. But just turn your backs on Israel and see what happens. Or is it that we have a bunch of Nazis disguised as liberals running around? Israel should keep turning the other cheek until they no longer exist, right? Anyone who thinks that is insane in the membrane. I know some or many of you may be thinking that I hate Muslims or something but nothing could be further from the truth. Are Russians loving people? Yes. But are communists loving people? No. What about German people, are they loving? Yes. But are Nazis loving people? No. How about Arabic people, are they loving? Yes, they have the capability of being that way because they are, like all human beings, created in the image of God. But many Muslims are hateful because, like communists or nazis, they've been corrupted and perverted by evil, satanic systems which teach them to hate. It was said long ago that the Jews are the apple of God's eye and the Christians have been grafted (through Christ) into the apple of God's eye. God loves the Jew. He made promises to the Jews. God loves the Christians and also made promises to the them as well. But Satan (Allah) hates the Jews. He hates the Jews because they gave the Bible to the world. And he hates the Christians. He hates the Christians because the Christians preach the Bible to the world. And Satan (Allah) hates the Muslims. He hates the Muslims because they can be a loving people but have been subverted I fear, to their own destruction. The Muslims will not stop fighting until every drop of their own blood is spilled. And God has promised that He will destroy them long before they ever get to our destruction. In the Koran, there are over 600 statements saying, "Allah loves this...." or "Allah loves that" but within the entire context of the book, it has only proven to this man after I read it, that Islam is NOT a religion of love or true peace. This book never states, "Love God with all your heart, mind, and spirit." And it never states, "Love your neighbor as yourself." In California and in my home state of Michigan, young elementary school children are allowed to dress in Islamic garb and encouraged to take on the Jihad but Christian prayer and customs are forbidden and have been all but removed from the schools. I remember a few years ago when the American Jewish Federation (I think it was in Oakland-Berkeley, CA) donated millions of dollars to the PLO for summer camps for Palestinian children as a goodwill gesture. They're crazy, just as crazy as the terrorist Muslims! The Palestinians took the money and used it for indoctrinating those children with anti-Israel hate campaigns, teaching them in textbooks that the Holocaust of WWII never happened and that the only good Jew is a dead Jew. The children in these camps drew pictures of murdered Jews and themselves as the killers. Even the Jews in the U.S. are crazy liberals if they continue to try and make peace with people so unreasonable. So some of you writing in this forum that the Jews are getting what they deserve, perhaps you're correct. I wouldn't help terrorists at all, not a penny, nada. Maybe changing the subject here, but it is as integral a part of everything else I've written here.............over the course of many years, I've heard and read surveys and opinion polls about who was the greatest U.S. president in history. Everyone should know that it was the first president, George Washington. Don't anyone say Franklin Roosevelt for he was one of the biggest socialists (communist) of all time. If I knew nothing else, Washington would get my vote because of his isolationist policy when he said, "The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have as little political connection as possible...why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe (or any part of world turmoil), entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalships, interest, humor, or caprice?... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world." Many progressives or modern, forward thinkers today would argue that he said that over 200 years ago and this wisdom doesn't apply today, that the world is a vastly different place now. But I say, that policy should still apply today and that America would be way better off and very prosperous if we had clung to that ideal. We have alot of elitists (liberal or conservative, doesn't matter what they call themselves) that are bent on bringing the entire world under one umbrella and of course, they would argue with Washington's principles. Just think about it, we could finally remove the I.V. bleed the vampires have placed in the arm of the U.S., stop bankrupting ourselves and we could build the greatest defense of our own shores including creating the latest and greatest bombs, missiles, and defense systems to crush anyone who would f--k with us. We'd have plenty of prosperity for all the people of this country instead of giving it to countries and people who always double cross and turn their backs on us anyway. Anyone with common sense knows that you cannot buy friendship. If you're required to give someone money to have their friendship, then they will never be your friend anyway, including Muslim terrorists, especially Muslim terrorists. Instead of pledging billions of dollars or bushels of wheat for them to consume, let them eat their crude oil instead, and let us start drilling our own oil right under the ground in the U.S. We could bring the price of a gallon of gasoline down to fifty or sixty cents, and therefore bring down the prices of most goods and services that Americans use. And as for the liberals who are all united in their common hatred of Israel, I'd love to cattle brand their rear ends, give them one piece of luggage and a one way ticket to the Middle East country of their choice, and tell them, "may your chains set lightly upon you, fool." And before you think that I have any use for the Democrats or Republican leaders of the U.S., think again. No matter who we vote for, we always drift to the left, regardless. As I stated before, there are prostitutes on both sides of the aisle. In his eight years raping the American people, George Dubya Bush spent more of our money than all presidents combined in history. And in his couple of years in the White House, Barack Hussein Obama has exceeded Georgie's spending. It's time to remove the I.V. bleed. There are lots of enemies of good people everywhere in this world. And even though a crack house is not a nice place, the real enemy isn't in a crack house. Some of the real enemies have lived in the White House. And one final item that is in reference to FrankBlackstone's post from Sunday Feb. 19, 2012 6:52 PM. Frank is like alot of people who show their ignorance when they open their mouths (or type with their fingers, in this case). In fact, I was among the ranks of the ignorant before I found some good teachers and learned of this certain key, and obscure piece of history.............no Frank, the "Jews" did NOT have Jesus crucified. Some of the folks who were in power at that time, religiously speaking, only claimed to be Jews. Many centuries before, they crept into, and through their "scribe" work, claimed to be and tried "grafting" themselves into the tribe of Judah. They were really good scribes, always having their little pens in hand. And since our brother Judah never liked to keep books that much anyway, it was pretty simple for these people to complete the scam. I'm sure that the high priest Caiaphas was one of them. They were in fact, Kenites. I don't expect many people who have not studied to understand this fact. I've been studying it for about 15 years now and have just begun to even scratch the surface. Kenites. Remember that word, Frank, or any of you reading it who THINK that the Jews were responsible for murdering the son of God. For thousands of years, they have been creating trouble for all of Israel (not just the tribe of Judah, also called the Jews), and then they stand back after instigating something, and let everyone else take the heat. If you really want to find the information about this, then you will. If you don't, then have a nice trip into ignorance. It was all written down thousands of years ago. Even pastors who claim to be Christians and political science experts don't know of this and that's why we have so many liberals trying to make peace with Muslims and not only letting them steal from the cookie jar, they're giving them the cookie jar, too!
The fix is in, people. Be prepared, it's later than you think.
Unfourtunetly BIGDOG2, although its been going on soooo long no one can really tell what the score is and whats considered "pay-back" and whats not.....but one thing is for certain....neither has the brain cells or morals to stop.
The fact it continues means they are both willing partners in this slaughty fest.
There will be no solution to the problem of Muslims murdering both Jews and Muslims as long as we have individuals on this cite incapable of determining right from wrong. Mahatma Ghandi told the world not to fight Hitler. If a man as great as that was ethically challenged (he did not understand true evil), why would one expect Robert-205692 and his supporters to get it.
There will be no solution to the problem of Muslims murdering both Jews and Muslims as long as we have individuals on this cite incapable of determining right from wrong.
That's right. Because Newsvine comments determine world politics and politicians all over the world read these comments daily to decide what policy should be.
Payback? Iran is the country that refuses to live in peace. Iran is the country that promotes hatred and intolerance of other nationalities, religions, etc.
Iran has HUGE rallies where they all they do is chant Death to America.. search Youtube and see for yourself. If Iran was a free and open society, the Mossad would be in Israel minding it's own business. This whole thing is due to the Iranians and people are saying "tit for tat".. ridiculous.. Israel is being forced to do these things to protect itself from a country that has said over and over that it seeks the destruction of Israel. And now, that country may be on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon..
All this conflict is being initiated by the Iranians NOT the Israelis.. And people are bashing Israel? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense..
Here are some "people" that may be better to listen to than some talking head:
Col. Wilkerson, former chief of staff for former Secretary of State Colin Powell:
"We're marching down a road for yet another war in western Asia. A war that will be disastrous not just for the region, but for the United States of America too. "Look at what's happening in Israel right now. Israeli leaders from the Israeli defense force, military, the Mossad, everywhere across the leadership spectrum in Israel, there are people coming out and saying-either retired or in one case active-this is crazy. Netanyahu and Lieberman and the rest of that gang are leading us down the road to Armageddon." --------------------------- Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta:
"[If Iran were to be attacked] the United States would obviously be blamed and we could possibly be the target of retaliation from Iran, striking our ships, striking our military bases, and there are economic consequences to that attack....which could impact a very fragile economy in Europe and a fragile economy here in the United States.
"The consequence could be that we would have an escalation that would take place that would not only involve many lives, but I think it could consume the Middle East in a confrontation and a conflict that we would regret."
------------------------ Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates:
"A military solution, as far as I am concerned...it will bring together a divided nation. It will make them absolutely committed to obtaining nuclear weapons. And they will just go deeper and more covert. The only long-term solution in avoiding an Iranian nuclear weapons capability is for the Iranians to decide it is not in their interest. Everything else is a short-term solution." [Reuters, 11/16/10]
"Any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General [Douglas] MacArthur so delicately put it." ------------------- General Anthony Zinni, former CENTCOM commander:
"I think anybody that believes that it would be a clean strike and it would be over and there would be no reaction is foolish." [PBS, 8/04/09]
"After you've dropped those bombs on those hardened facilities, what happens next? [...] What happens if they launch them into U.S. bases on the other side of the gulf? [...] And of course the economy of the world goes absolutely nuts....what happens if another preemptive attack by the West, the U.S. and Israel, they fire up the streets and now we got problems. Just tell me how to deal with all that, okay?" "Because, eventually, if you follow this all the way down, eventually I'm putting boots on the ground somewhere. And like I tell my friends, if you like Iraq and Afghanistan, you'll love Iran." ---------------------------- Brigadier General John Johns, former combat arms officer in U.S. Army:
"While rhetoric about military strikes may work as an applause line in Republican debates, there is little or no chance that military action would be quite so simple. Quite the contrary. Defense leaders agree that the military option would likely result in serious unintended consequences. "America ought not consider another war in the Middle East without a very serious discussion of the consequences. Political candidates should curb their jingoistic, chauvinistic emotions and temper their world view with a little reflective, rational thought. -----------------------
I agree, Iran is the aggressor here. They said repeatedly they want the wipe the US and Israel out. Normally saying it wont be that big of a deal, all bark and no bite right? Yea only problem with that is how do you know they wont walk the walk? Some muslims believe so bad that they strap bombs to their chest and blow themselves up for their cause, What makes you think that Iran PM wont try and commit mass genocide/Suicide for his beliefs?
Its better not to let them have a WMD since they seem unstable. If they are peacefully working towards nuclear energy and not weapons why didn't they take that trade with Russia to trade their uranium for Nuclear fuel rods?
Wiz...funny that. Nuclear fuel rods would have helped create plutonium for a bomb. Which is why the US decided to continue to work with the current form of nuclear energy instead of Thorium, a much safer and easily managed form of nuclear power. Go figure. The US has always been a military first, humanity second kind of power. It has it's good points and bad.
Any country with nuclear or superior weaponry is an aggressor of sorts.
Aaron - you forgot to mention jews murdering muslims, but I get the feeling you dont think thats ever happened. and IF IT HAS, it was always done with the most amount of legitamacy, right?
sorry, I dont live in such a crazy world.
i mean, who thought plunking jewish people down in the middle of the arab desert was going to begin, last or end well?
oh I know, biblically it's practically theirs...*rolls eyes* and then once we plunked them down, with the help of rich christian nations, they absolutely won that land fair and square *rolls eyes* so the muslims just need to get over it and let the nice jewish people live peacefully.
well, newsflash...thats not how the world works.
They chose this place with an undeniable understanding that would it result in never ending conflict...now they must live with that reality for as long as they can manage..
or, they should admit this is not the ideal place to raise a nation...and find nice, white christian people to offer up some free land so they can continually expand and take more than they were offered...and they can tick off their "friends" and see how that pans out over time.
I hear in Canada, there's tons of wide open space...Alaska too.
Two very fine solutions to this problem...but Isreal isnt looking for solutions, they are looking for white christians to rally with them so that those "evil muslims" can be wiped off the face of the earth...because we all know, short of that...there will be no peace right?
Ironic, Im guessing thats why muslims wants jews wiped off the face of the planet...because so long as they exist, mulslims wont know peace either.
depends on the fuel rod and the reactor. A thorium fuel rod that uses Liquid Fuel produces less plutonium which would cause more harm to modify to produce more plutonium then good towards making a nuclear bomb.
(not a nuclear expert, only what I read from the nuclear being built in Georgia which discussed the different types of fuel rods)
@Jessica: If you really believe anything you posted in #2.9, then I suggest you do 2 things, 1) Pick up a legitimate history book and do the research for yourself, stop listening to all the propaganda. The creation and existence of Israel is not nearly as black and white as you seem to think. There were many Jewish people living in the area prior to 1948, and most of the Arabs that were living there made the choice to pack up and join the armies of Israel's enemies rather than peacefully coexist in a 2 state solution which the Israeli's accepted. That's a fact. Now, over half a century later, the Palestinians, are saying "we've been wanting peace all along, we're the victims here." Well, sorry if after over 50 years of continued aggression towards Israeli citizens, the Israeli's aren't going to simply take their word for it. And now we have Iran funding and training the terrorists that are constantly attacking Israel. And we're supposed to believe that the Iranian regime has no agenda of destroying Israel?
The other thing, I sure hope you are a Native American, because if anything you've posted is true, and you are a non-Native American, then you've made the most hypocritical statement on this thread. Typing your drivel while living on land you stole from the indigenous population, how about you pack up and move to Alaska or Canada, since as you suggest, they have plenty of space there.
Jessica raises a point seldom seen in these posts. How could anyone have thought that creating a Jewish homeland in what amounts to a totally Muslim area of the world might be a good idea? The developed nations were all consumed with guilt over 'The Final Solution' at the end of WWII. Ripping a hunk from Palestine and giving it to the Jews guaranteed two things: an ongoing and savage war and that Israel would eventually become the thing it so feared. We cannot relocate Israel; if that ever was viable it isn't now. Whatever side is victorious there is no moral high ground for either - only the stench of an oncoming genocide in the air.
ZDub: Thank you for your contribution. It opens the door to thoughts of the bombing of the King David Hotel by Jewish extremeists. The Irgun arm of the Israeli military comes to mind along with their systematic destruction of Muslim villages. How about Mossad and their ongoing spy efforts against this country? As I said in the post above, there is no moral high ground here. As far as Jessica being a Native American, it's apples and oranges, dude. Well thought out or not, she advances an idea while you offer nothing but apologies for the situation Israel and Iran are quickly drawing the US into.
Israel is being forced to do these things to protect itself from a country that has said over and over that it seeks the destruction of Israel. And now, that country may be on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon..
Complete nonsense. You cannot justify the murders Israel is committing. Israel has called for the 'government of Israel to disappear from the pages of time/history' -- and that is something that even a pacifist can get behind.
Maybe the Israelis should give the Iranians one of their nukes . . . preferably right on top of one of the few enrichment facilities that is NOT constructed in the basement of a Children's Hospital.
@Mike: Sorry dude it's not apples and oranges. It's so easy for people like you and Jessica to cry about how an "indigenous" population has been forced out to make room for an "invading force" while you sit in the comfort of your home or office that was built on land that was stolen from an idigenous population. This is the very definition of hypocracy!
Although, I guess in a way you are correct. The difference in this case is that the Palestinians are not the indigenous population in the area. If anything its the Jews. You both seem to have forgotten that the Jewish people lived in the area well before Islam became a religion and milenia before the term "Palestinian" as it is used today came about.
Maybe if the Muslim nations in the area weren't so hellbent on ethnically cleansing their own populations, and could have demonstrated that they can promote tolerant, racially and culturally diverse societies, there wouldn't have been the need to establish a Jewish homeland. But after being persecuted all over the world, the Jewish people decided to return back to the land they came from and join there brothers and sisters who were already there.
I opened the door to discussions about Israeli extremism? We can post the lists of Muslim and Jewish acts of terrorism and see how they stack up side by side.
I do agree that at this stage in the game, there is no moral high-ground on either side, never denied it. I was simply pointing out the hypocrasy behind Jessica's (and now your's) statements. I think pointing out that hypocracy is a lil bit more original than butt kissing another poster and rehashing the same, tired, anti-Israel B.S. So if you want to call me out for offering nothing new, then how about you offer something resembling an informed, factually accurate, and original opinion?
Zdub...I wonder if you are aware of the apartheid state that is Israel...they have housing discrimination, employment discrimination, charge men with rape whose offense is using a Jewish name to get a girl in bed consentually but actually being Muslim. Also, the Ashkanazi Jews (eastern Euro Jews) discriminate racially against the Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews (Iberian penninsula and Arab Jews). Also, the reason why acts of terrorism are imbalanced media wise is because most of what Israeli's do that qualify as terrorism are military run gorilla warfare tactics (mixed in with long range missals and assassinations in foreign countries). The perception is that what the Israeli's do is military operations while what the Muslims do is terrorism but in reality its all the same...unnecessary loss of life is still unnecessary whether media calls it terrorism or military missions...spin doesn't matter.
essentially all those blasting Palestinians/Arabs but praising Israel are laying it on too thick...both are part of the problem and until they understand this, there's not much we can do about it. The reality is that in terms of equal opportunities for all, minority integration, rights of minorities etc, Israel has more in common with Arab countries then it does with the West, so lets not paint this in a way that Israel is a beakon sitting on a hill while all the others are war mongering (also the way us Americans feel about our country, that we are above petty stuff when in reality we engage in war more than just about any other country, other than our puppet countries like the UK, Australia, Germany)
What's silly about this whole thing is that the Iranian attack DIDN'T EVEN KILL ANYONE. The attacks against Iranian scientists were surgical, precise attacks designed to harm only the single target they were after. The stupid Iranians couldn't even get the Defense Minister...wounding -- not killing -- the wife instead. How incompetent! The Iranians are sloppy (wounding other people in a different car?) and inefficient (they didn't even kill anyone?). These are precisely the wrong hands for nuclear technology. Please, blow up more Iranian scientists, and a few of their political leaders for good measure.
satnaam, you are full of hot air with no meaning behind the gusts. What, specifically, do you think Israel has in common with Arab countries? Or are you merely demonstrating your tendency to over-generalize when the details are too numerous and complex for your brain to understand? What country can claim a history even remotely similar to Israel? What Arab nation bears even a remote cultural similarity to Israel? But I waste my time asking these questions, knowing there is no real answer. The only answer is hot-winded, under-educated, disinformed internet e-thug-wannabes spitting words about things they know nothing about -- santaam amongst others.
case in point...validated...this is exactly what the Arabs do as well...instead of figuring out ways to come together in peace, both sides war monger and play the blame game. It's just one giant pissing match and people die as a result. All I'm saying is that their are many innocent causalities on both sides and both sides are morons who don't respect their enemy in basic human rights ways...
An avalanche has begun, and it is to late for the pebbles to vote. It is becomming clear that attacks like this will only increase. It is important that all concerned remember. that attcking innocent civilians is immoral and unacceptable. Those whom wish to fight wish to do so, have the good common sense to request a place on the planet in which you can do so...then those "aggreived parties" can blow themselves into the next universe to thier heart's content, and leave the rest of us alone and in peace!!
How about a reverse HUNGER GAMES for the politicians and those in the shadows behind them that want and profit by these incessant wars? Hey, reality tv, are you listening?
Letsplayfair, do you not understand that was a great move by whoever to slow down Iran from getting nuclear weapons .A nation that is led by a insane leader who would have no problems using it.We need to learn from israel on how to handle the 5th century countries.
Hey Marty, my point is wtf says the United States should even have nuclear weapons seeing as they are the only real terrorists who have detonated anything resembling a weapon of mass destruction. I would say the Americans shouldn't have them either, bunch of bloody cowboys.
They certainly can't be upset about t his, since they do it to others ALL the time in the name of their own interests. They make a h abit of assassination and bombings, and what's more, they are PROUD of it. Well, are th ey proud now/ This is the result.
Boner, you are a horrible reader. I see nothing in the article that says or shows Israeli pride. The article does reflect the usual taciturn attitude of the Israelis. Is taciturn too big a word for you?
The middle east will be a sparkling river of glass with sand castle dead bodies. Who do we thank for this? Foreign involvement from countries meddling in other countries affairs.
Hey they car bombed that physicist in Iran. What did they expect, Flowers and candy. It's funny when Israel kills they are always in the right but when they have it happen to them they cry like babies. Want the violence to stop then stop stealing land . When will they see that they are the terrorists. Every day Christians from all over the world see it. OK I'm ready for the whimpering Jews to lash out about this post.
Hey, man, you have to get off of whatever you're smoking. Where did you see anyone "crying" or "whimpering"? You, people, call the land purchasing "stealing" and kill your own who sells it. My guess is all resposible in these heinous attacks will be hunted down.
that mossad was behind the attacks in iran are as of yet still unconfirmed rummours Now I aint saying they did or did not do it, but I can understand why they would GO ISREAL.
When the end of time comes (and it will) all of those who discredit the Jews in any respect will burn in hell for eternity and this is a fact of the bible and even if you don't believe it you will.
Israel: a small country surrounded by over 80 million Muslims who want the country wiped out.
Jew: a person with a strong memory of the Holocaust.
Combination: A country populated by people who will never again go quietly to their deaths. A country with the intellectual capacity to build their defense and the courage to use that capacity whenever and wherever it is needed.
Vega, the Israelis and you need to stop fighting Nazi ghosts in your heads and get real. But let me ask you, if what the Nazis did was so horrible that the Israelis feel they have to strike out then why the hell aren't the Israelis killing Germans?
What's the problem, are the blond and blue-eyed Germans to beautiful to kill so Israel feels it's easier to occupy and kill dark-skin civilians?
I mean, if there anyone in the world that deserves to be occupied and prevented from having their own country it has got to be the freaking Germans, right? They're the ones who murdered over 6 million Jews, among others.
But what better way to get out your anger than to go to a poor country who can hardly defend themselves and destroy them to take out your anger. Wow, you sure have some big balls, buddy!
Jews will forever be a victim , they tell us their founding father terrorists have changed their stripes and their past should be forgoten yet every other day the holocaust is thrown in our face , yet we never hear mention of the 15 million non jews that perished .
So why do we forgive and forget the Began and company but do not foregive and forget the germans who not harmed anyone in 65yrs.
The Israelil claim to the promised land is about as lame as their claim they are gods chosen . If the are so special then why has god dumped on them so many times . I can't seem to find a single race that god has turned his back on so many times
And this time around I haven't heard anyone claim god came to them in a burning bush telling the to go back , it was a bunch of Christians who goal is to bring on the rapture , sounds like satans doings
God will forever punish the jews for killing his only begotten Son. Just like the jews will always remember the holocaust, God will always remember the Crucifixion.
The Jew's didn't kill his only begotton son, you idiot. Didn't you read the bible or see the movie Mel Gibson made? It was the Romans who were governing Israel at that time. There wasn't 1 Jew who put a nail in Christ's hands or feet. THe Governer asked the Jew's if he was their savior and the son of God and the Jew's beleiving in only one deity said he was not Their savior. He was a prophet not their messiah. Now land has been changing since the begining of time, if you think that the Jew's have no right to their heritage of Israel, them maybe you should take the American Indian off their reservation and give them your home, for it was originally the Indians land. The Jew's fought for that land and won against many obsticales, they are surrounded by Arab enimies. They didn't ask for any American ground troops like Iraq or Affganistan,or any Un no fly zones like Libiya. They had no fire power in the 40"s,America or Europe wasn't giving them ammunition, so God was on their side. maybe God sees how abusive the Arabs are to their own people, wheather you are in Egypt, Iran. Iraq, Afgan., libiya, Syria, etc. all over the Middle East ,they have one dik after another abusing their populas. And for the idiot Mountainbike, get off your bike ,go back to school and learn some of history. Go to the Middle East and see how the marority of citizens are being treated in those countries compared to how they are treated in Israel. THe Jew's purchased a lot of their land from the Palistanians ,them they turned the desert into farm land and noe the Arabs want it back. The american Indians want manhattan back also, are you willing to give up your home also to them and go back to where your family originated?
Great philosophy MountainBike! I am sure you also approve of Police officers being killed because they shot criminals too, right? When was the last time you have heard that Israel blow a bus with women and kids in Spain, or any other country in the world like extremist islamics do? They are just defending themselves from assassin dogs that have publicly declared they want to destroy Israel and have killed thousands of Israelies in bomb attacks in Israel. But there is hope! Muslims in Belgium have started a movement to ban dogs from public places because dogs are unclean animals and their view offends them. I really hope they are successful, because then they will ban themselves also from public view!
I have no lashing for you, just my pity at your ignorance, and those who agree with you. Islam started terrorism, and until recently, Isreal and the West haven't really partaken of it. Iran trained suicide bombers and created Hamas and Hezbollah, which invaded Israel and regularly fires rockets at Isreali citizens, regardless of where they live. Iran has been stating for decades they will not stop until every Jew is dead.
You and those who agree with you have my pity because you have so clearly forgotten the lessons of not 60 years ago. Millions went to war to stop a lunatic with the same goals. The only difference was that Hitler initiated war first, then sought atomic power. Iran has clearly learned from Hitler's teaching and decided to get the bomb first, then go to war. With their ideology in hand, and the brainwashing that, even if they die, they will still succeed in their goals and be rewarded, mutual anihalation is assured. They will not hesitate to unleash the power, while non-Muslim countries at least have had an ounce of sanity to know that this couldn't end well, and cared enough despite their own egos to maintain enough sanity on both sides to not trigger a cataclysmic event. Israel and the West can see Iran for exactly what it is: The next Nazi Germany, now with atomic bombs!
If Iran behaved the least bit logically, you might have a point. But they have clearly stated without hesitation or doubt they have one goal and one goal only: Make everyone a believer, or destroy everyone. And in the case of Isreal and the US, only the later is an option. So, keep cheering for the side whose goal it is to kill you. You will definately get your wish.
Israel... A country populated by people who will never again go quietly to their deaths.
Every human life is made in G_d's image, an EXACT representation of G_D.
Every time, EVERY time you snuff the life out of G_d's body (because man is made by G_d), your attack is not on the MAN but upon G_D!!!
THIS IS WHY G_D's LAW STATES "THOU SHALL NOT KILL." The "legalists" or "lawyers" defy G_d every time they try to twist G_d's law it so that they can kill without breaking the law... but it is NOT SO.
So yeah, go ahead!!! Kill everyone, Children of Abraham. KILL EVERYONE. Show the world how much you hate your G_d.
boogablue, peace be upon Muhammad, correct me if I'm wrong ,but wasn't he a warrior who had a hand in killing people, as for Jesus I don't believe he killed anyone
Neither of these countries can be trusted not to stab each other in the back. As a matter of fact you can trust them to stab each other in the back at every turn and as often as they can.
Every attack becomes fuel for the fire. As that fire burns it destroys lives and civilizations. You cannot put out fire with fire. Fire only makes fire grow. Evil begets evil. Only with water can you put out fire. Only with peace can you end war.
In all of these things remember: we are not creatures of logic and reason, we are creatures of pride and ego.
Only by mastering and overcoming our emotional pride and ego, and devoting our minds and thoughts to logic and reason will we as a race depart from the ways of war and atrocity.
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:36
The Jews were responsible for Jesus' crucifixtion. The Romans were the ones who carried out the sentence.
11And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.
12And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.
13Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
14And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
15Now at that feast the governor was wont to release unto the people a prisoner, whom they would.
16And they had then a notable prisoner, called Barabbas.
17Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ?
18For he knew that for envy they had delivered him.
19When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.
20But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus.
21The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.
22Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
23And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
24When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. Matthew 27:11-25
It's interesting how the Bible sheds a lot of light on the subject of people's ignorance. People can try to rewrite history all they want, but the truth will go unaltered. The Jews were responsible for the killing of Jesus.
Prove all things; hold fast to that which is good. 1 Thess. 5:21
Isreal is far from a country of cry-babies. It's war so I can't condemn Iran too much, they are just the enemy so it is what is expected. You'll see though, Isreal and the US are going to kick the sh$t out of Iran.
you love the islamist agenda so much? go live there
you are spewing the exact same "jews taking over the world" , and "jews are the source of all evil" that the nazis that you love so much did before you
and no, I don't support all the things that Israel does, any more than I support all of the short-sighted things that we do.
but all the Israel haters clearly and truly have repeatedly shown that they want the jews wiped out by the words the jew-haters use. they aren't interested in peace, they want extermination of the jews, again
MountainBike. As much as I agree with you on some of what you've said, please refrain from using the word Jew. Our enemies are not the Jews, but the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Judaism known as Zionism. Ovadia Yosef is a prime example, as he has publicly stated that all non-Jews should be either wiped out or enslaved. And as for the rest of you delusional nutballs, saying "Go Isreal" isn't exactly helping. Its one thing to want your own country, its another to take another person's country from them. That'd be like if Iran decided to reclaim its Aryan heritage and invaded the soverign states neighboring it. Just because a group of people you're related to were wrong does not make it okay for you to wrong others. I'm neither Muslim, Jewish, or Christian and I know this. Why? Because its common sense. Not religous or cultural hullabaloo. Also, why the heck should the US government support a country (politically and financially) that instigates conflicts across the middle east then expects US (grammatical pun intended) to step in and waste money on an inefficient means of solving said [avoidable] conflicts. Diplomacy is the cheapest measure by far. A True Conservative would know that.
I'm not against Jews in general. I have friends that are Jews but they are peaceful Jews. I'm against the trouble makers that think it's OK to murder someone to steal there land. I believe in god but i don't believe in portions of what the bible has written. Organized religion I'm not. They are stealing land that belongs to the Palestinians.
I guess when you target other foreigners yourself you must pay the price- quid pro quo- their actions make more enemies for themselves- Now India is buying Iran's oil and they have nukes- the thinning of allies is very dangerous
Isreal has nothing to say. Once again, it is unfortunate that inncent people, who have nothing to do with political nitwits, are the victims of murder. The Iranians who run that government stole free elections and seized power with no plan to ever give it back. They are anit west, anti Isreal, and they are building a bomb. What right does Isreal have to kill their scientists or pay Iranian rebels to kill the sceintists. If they want to go after that nit wit Akmed or the Rebuplican Guard leadership, fine. But the scientists? So, now the Iranians are killing dipolmats wives and staff drivers, instead of going after Nehenyahoooooie or whatever his name is. Now you have ignited a war of terroism on top of all the other stuff going on. I can not feel sorry for Isreal, just sorry for the innocent people hurt or killed.
I'd be surprised if Israel was surprised at this. So what's your point? Not enough people killed?
Should Israel have rolled the tanks and planes out, gotten a few thousand people killed on both sides (none of whom would have been the scientists or slowed the nuke program) in a true manly fashion?
If they're going to fight, I like this way better. Selected targets.
The British had a terrorism problem in this country in 1776 as well. The terrorists were Americans demanding their own state. Perhaps the better point you should have made was that in 1948, the Jewish people took their terrorist acts to England and starting blowing things up in London. Only then did the British give them their state. Whereas, the Americans did not do that. Consequently it proved to the arab world that terrorism works. The British caved in both instances. But, terrorism has existed since the dawn of man. Often ill-defined.
"He who lives by the sword dies by the sword" Israel's arrogant policy of wandering around the world assassinating those they deem a threat to their interests is bound to produce an equal and opposing response. They deserve what they get.
I dont agree with Israeli policies. I think they are a selfish nation who has slapped the US in the face over and over. However, a country that says they want to wipe you off the map, and is purusing nukes in the face of the world. Saying its for peacful but wont let inspectors to the new areas to prove it. Then those working on that program to produce a bomb that can destroy your country and what would generally be considered an enemy. Assasination is a game all countries play. It seems when the Israelis do it they take out the target and not others. Even the US with drones will accidentally take out a civilian But spends millions on technology to only kill the sepcific enemy. The Bin Laden deal could have safely ended with some cruise missles and sucks for the innocents killed while taking him out.
The Iranians or whoever was responsible are not going after a specific enemy combatant. They did not attack an Israeli military target. They went after diplomats picking children up from school and didn't worry about the civilians of that foreign country the attacks happened in at all. Its a game everyone plays. It just shows the type of player you are when civilian casualties in countries outside of the 2 at each others throats dont matter one bit
I haven't ever read that that Israel is going to wipe Iran off the face of this planet, but this the common theme followed by the rabid Mullahs ruling Iran. Israelis are doing what they should do to survive and they understand better than anyone else. Indians need to know who their real friends.
I see all the Racist jew haters are posting this morning, Not one of you have the intel or knowledge that the Israelis have been responsible for any bombing, These people are allies to the US and you spew hate towards them, I hope the people in the bombing were not to seriously hurt and make a full recovery.
The Israeli's were given their own state w/the help of the world and yet they deny others- this is part of the ongoing chaos- yet neither the US or the Israeli's will admit it - they want their cake and to eat it too- I was close to the fire in the Mil.- Obama was origanlly in favor of the state now he's not- another sell out- A bully is a bully no matter what face he wears
What do you expect. The world does see how Israel treats non Jews. You ever wonder why there is so much bitterness towards you. You have this belief that you are always in the right and everybody else is in the wrong. Stop crying and fess up to your sins and hatred towards the non Jews that are not part of the Jewish Master Plan.
I see you can only still post one liners DAK, What did you do in all those formative years? What are you going to do when your aging mother passes, you know you will not survive outside of the basement?
Free lunch they were given their land by the UN and have had to fight to keep it, Nobody said it came with a bunch of Arab Goat herd squatters?
Mountain I am not jewish or am I Christian, I am a concerned American Citizen that cares about our friends and Allies, Unlike you haters on here, Long live the United States and all of our Allies, May we all prosper and stay strong.
Fell free to immigrate to Israel...make sure you are jewish though because otherwise you will have few rights once you get there...even christians find it hard to coexist with jews in Israel...I wonder why
Mountain I am not jewish or am I Christian, I am a concerned American Imperialist that cares about our co-occupationists, Unlike you Nazi's on here, Long live the United States and all of our Allies, May we all live long & prosper
Spoken like a true life-member of AIPAC.
Just ask Jonathan Pollard what kind of 'friends' the Israelis are...
I see all the Racist jew haters are posting this morning.............
Using the race card I see. ..Jew is judaism and judaism is a religion and religions normally suck. Hebrew is the chosen one and I don't hear anybody acting racist towards the hebrew.
That was cute DAK, Mom must of brought you down a few heated pop tarts for you to get that excited, Especially to write that much and cut and paste too.
US citizen. We don't know all of the facts one way or another because there's lies and accusations on all sides.However,what goes around comes around.It's not a matter of hating jews it's just that they are not squeaky clean as they profess to be.Like one post said,they were given a state and now they want the whole territory.So keep it real ,they have their faults too.
I am not taking any sides, but did you not see the article last week where Israel assassinated the Iranian scientist in Tehran? I mean, if they are going to kill civilians inside Iran, how are their diplomats not legitimate targets?
You do know there is no evidence that Iran had anything to do with the action, don't you? The article said Israel believes Iran was behind the assasination attempt. There are plenty of groups who have a gripe with Israel.
The people who lost their loved ones when the WTC towers were leveled to the ground in a controlled demolition, with explosives set prior to the buildings being hit, have the biggest gripe.
Bldg 7 was not even hit by an airplane and it fell exactly like the first 2, straight down into it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds. The newscasters were notified Bldg 7 was going to fall, shortly before the actual fall. How could anyone predict it would fall, when no one was in the building and the fires were relatively small? It defies all science and common sense.
My point is would these people feel the same if they worked for the British Embassy? How about the French or Maybe the Australian or is it that they are juden?
But the British, French and Australians have not been assassinating civilians inside Iran. That has nothing to do with antisemitism, Israel and Iran are in the middle of a proxy war with each other.
Killing the scientists is low. Way below the belt. They were inside their own country and were killed at home, on their commute, or out with their families. No matter what country did that, that is low.
Love U.S. Cititzens rationale - if you don't agree with Israeli policy you are Anti-Semitic... so if one disagrees with a particular U.S. policy, we are what? Anti-Christian... love how uneducated ones love to throw out that tag-line every time one disagrees with them. lol
I am sick and tired of christians and jews fear mongering the US that the bible tells us to protect Israel... BULL PUCKY!
The Israeli's are no different than the arabs. They cannot live in peace, nor will they ever. The only thing that seperates the jews from the arabs is their religion. I am sick of my tax paying dollars supporting the terroristic state of israel.
@WLee - Quit being a damn terrorist. Sorry, our money shouldn't be supporting foreign jihads, nor should we be picking sides. Tell you what, why don't you go to the desert and support the jews from over there.... Leave my tax money to help American citizens.
I see that your religeous identity supersedes your present nationality. As I understand it Jew is not a race and this might be central to the problem. I don't hate Jews I just don't trust them or their objectives. But they have learned well from other entities that "the ends justify the means" but somehow failed to encompass democracy and love of fellow man on their way to heaven or where ever they go. As an American I am tired of revisionsit history, meddling in our banking systems, control the editing of new information, and Israels expansionist policies threatening stability in the region.
Wethepeeps, so I guess you don't like the choices, then I suggest you quit complaining. Since you missed it we give money to Egypt, Pakistan, Palestinians as well as quite a few other countries not just Israel.
@WLee - in case you missed it, let me copy and paste for you -
"Leave my tax money to help American citizens."
You think I don't know we are funding other countries? I wasn't born yesterday, nor do I hide my head under a misspelled sign or a bible. I'm quite clear on where I would like my tax money to go.
"I don't hate Jews I just don't trust them or their objectives...but somehow failed to encompass democracy or love of fellow man on their way to heaven or whereever they go...meddling in our banking systems, control the editing of new information"??!?!
Now I know that people get a little touchy about anti-Israeli sentiments being construed as anti-Semitism, but Mike, that there is some classic anti-Semitism!
Controlling the banks, controlling the media, heaven or whereever they go???Dude, you are an anti-Semite...Where is the "some of my best friends are Jews" line? Sheesh!
Wethepeeps since you know our tax dollars are going to other countries what good is it doing you complaining about it, that's why I gave you two choices.
US Citizen-701707,tell the 34 dead sailors and their famalies and the 174 wounded ones that was on the USS Liberty when the Israel tried to sink it that they are our allies.
maybe you should tell DOD that the Jews that spied on and stole the secret from us are our allies.
so we can make sure there is turmoil in the middle east which will drive up oil prices giving exxon another record quarter of profits? Every oil producing nation and every oil company would be jumping for joy if Israel started another war in the region, in fact they probably pay the Israeli government to keep tensions high so prices will remain high.
Sorry Doug, you're wrong. While the oil companies like a bit of a rise in prices they know that if speculation gets too much out of control it backfires. Also, if war does breakout it disrupts production - meaning they lose money. As with every industry (except for the arms industry) a stable environment is preferred.
Is it that most of you commentators don't read the article before you post comments or that you don't understand what you read? Nowhere in this article does it say that anyone was killed, so saying that they were killed (while it may be true) is an unfounded statement. And nowhere in this article or any other I've read have I heard any Israeli official whine, complain, cry foul or anything of the sort. Israel has known they're at war since the beginning. It will continue until those who wish to destroy Israel and the Jews are defeated. This is just another day at the office.
It's a little hypocritical for Israel to complain about Iran assassinating Israeli diplomats while Israel is behind the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists. And it was reported recently that the group who carried out the assassinations for Israel was on the official US lists of terrorists, making Israel a state sponsor or terrorism, as is Iran.
Great observation! I was thinking about the explosion and the explosive used that also destroyed the vehicle following the target vehicle. How come nobody was killed? I'm glad that there was no loss of life, but I wonder how anyone could survive such a powerful explosion, if indeed it was as powerful as described. This line of thinking opens the door to many questions, including who really did the dirty deed and why. Any suggestions?
"Nothing has more strength than dire necessity"--Euripides 5th cent BCE.
Actions, that can avoid the devastation of outright war, and that keep the mad Iranian leadership from getting nuclear weapons are necessary. I wish Israel and the world success in this endeavor.
Thankfully, the difference with the attacks against these workers at the Israeli embassies is their lack of success.
Well, that bunch of ragheads just keep causing trouble, no one can get it accross to them. The jewish group comes up with inventions, they educate their people and try to make the world a better place, yet the jealous ignorant rag heads keep blowing up people, cars, and building. The have suicide bombers and they teach them this. How do they ever expect to have anything?
1. Iranians aren't Arab, they are Persian. Maybe you can come up with a different bigoted term for them since they aren't arabs...maybe...RUG heads...you know...cuz they make great rugs.
2. Tell the ragheads in Qatar - a country where the average wealth...AVERAGE of all citizens is 17 million dollars.
3. Or United Arab Emirates, where Abu Dhabi is the richest city in THE WORLD.
yeah...they have nothing...LOL.
oh...I forgot you know only what Fox news, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, KKK, tells you about Arabs.
Israel will never fall, and they will never stop. They don't complain when things like this happen, they just get even! and this is how it should be...Israel is doing exactly what they need to be doing.
Yeah I kinda think that what Israel should be doing is trying to make peace with it's neighbors. Maybe they should take a look at the Arab Peace Initiative, which would bring Israel peace and normal relations with all Arab countries. I wonder why they would have never accepted or even commented on this proposal. Maybe because all they want it to further their 21st century colonialism and create Eretz Israel at the expense of ot only the Arabs, but all of the world
Dan, so who should the Green rebellion look to have revenge on. Stewgott, Israel has peace with Egypt, Turkey and Jordan, and I'm sure with an unwritten one with Saudi Arabia
You attack someone you should expect to be attacked in return.. For Israel to sit there and go "oh woe me" is a farce... That's like attacking another country and then acting surprised when they attack back...
They've (Israel) have always provoked in the middle east (the creation of the nation on Arab landwas their first provocation).
actually, the muslims and Iran have the highest regards for Jesus Christ.
In fact legend has it that after he was crucified, there were several sightings by muslims that saw him walking through their territory and felt blessed.
Because they were sure to have seen his spirit / resurrection, the story is part of their teachings.
in regards to the war between iran and israel, it has never been physical. it has only been a war of words.
if iran is building weapons of mass destruction, how do we know this to be true? look at those weapons of mass destruction we didn't find in iraq, but created a lot of proof about their existence and provided to the u.n.
Anyone who can not see that Iran is a rogue nation, which sponsors terrorist fronts,and treats it's people poorly, along with threatining the security of Israel and the Middle East,........is niave at best. Israel is fighting to maintain a stable well run productive state. Suffice to say Israel 167 nobel prizes Iran 1(which the Iranian goverment confiscated) The world is clearly safer and more sane, with Iran, not a nuclear threat. Alas, the outcome will not be decided on this vine, rather it will be by the IDF, and some very well placed bombs!
all you cry babies just wait till they set a nucke off and it wipes one of our cities out then i want to see who crys the loudest. they are only doiing it to stay alive because they are under constant fire from these cowards.
i bet if i told you over and over and lobbed a brick through your window a few times then you would be wanting to come and get me even if you have no proof. i am not for war but i know if theycan kill us they want to and will, no matter how.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/delhi-israeli-embassy-car-catches-fire-2-hurt/229887-3.html
Can't wait until this back and forth takes off full steam...whether you support them or not, pissing off the Israelis is always a sure fire way to make a mess
Israel is always a target to the peaceful muslims that want to{kill the jews} I put my money on the Democratic State of Israel. Really anyone with any common sense can see that Israel is the only true ally of the USA in the Middle East! We will always support them with diplomacy and logistics as that is all that is needed the Israeli military can easily handle the fanatics in tehran with US air and ground forces.
Well what do Israelis really expect to happen when they sponsor terrorism against others?
life and liberty- you say that callously as they are the only ally to spy on us- keep your friends closer
India has 14 percent of Muslims. Most of them are a liability and curses on earth like in other non-Muslim nations.
With such a number anything is possible.
Imagine the damages Muslims, especailly the Paki ones, are doing right in the US forming hardly two percent.
A tooth for a tooth; an eye for an eye. You kill their scientists; they kill your diplomats. Seems like fair play to me.
what ever it is that you sew, also do you rip. who ever has a bunch of tat, will inevitably get tits. whatever you order online, such will be delivered, usually within a matter of days, but perhaps of lesser quality than you anticipated.
TomTom, that is exactly what I was thinking. I certainly don't support Iran, but the fact is, the two countries are at war on a small scale. It may not be a declared war, but it is war. That part of the world will likely never see peace again until somebody drops a whole bunch of nukes and everybody there is dead. The only other way it will stop is if aliens from space attack the earth and all people have to unite to defeat them. With a little luck we will have a Will Smith who can save the world from those horrible alien creatures.
Just wait for the repercussions/retaliations from Israel.
This hasn't ended, it's only just starting to get worse.
Iran is like Nazi Germany in the 1930's .They have attacked on 6 continents using terrorism.They deserve to be defeated and overtrown .Israel acts on self defense just like Enlgand did after they were so viciously attacked by the nazis.They took the battle to Germany of course.Or can you be neutral with nazi Germany and imperial Japan who were so obviously the agrresors ?Their leaders were hung to prove it.Well Its the same with Iran and their leaders who will either be hung by their own people or die in their bunkers like the nazis did.Responging to aggression is not tit for tat. Iran is the agressor.Ask most of the countries in the mideast!!
Let's see Israel targets Iranian scientist........they succeed. Iran targets Israeli foreign officials........they fail. I hope that's an indication of Iran's abilities with their nuclear ambitions.
"They" failed because it was most likely Mossad who faked that hit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_Way_of_Deception
Jonathan - We usually agree with each other but on the subject of Indian muslims, i'd beg to differ from you.
Indian muslims are one of the most moderate secular muslims in all of muslim-dom. It's true however, that a certain sections of indian muslims - especially in places like Kashmir and some parts of Hyderabad and in the muslim belt of Deoband in northern India have been radicalized due to Pakistani and Bangladeshi influences.
The educated middleclass muslims in India form the bedrock of Indian intelligencia and intellectuals and are highly visible in traditionally liberal professions like acting, dramatics, writing and entertainment. Salman Rushdie, A.R. Rehman, Ustad Amzad Ali Khan, Are some of the names that come to mind.
Well Iran may be like 1930's Germany.... but Israel is no England.
Israel is acting like a diluted 1930's Russia, with the forced reloction of people and then bulldozing down their homes to create room for jewish settlements. Conducting terriosts acts in other countries and then try to pay the victim when the payback comes.
Israel and Iran may go to war and I hope the US stays out of it. Maybe after a few hundred thousand dead on both sides - they will see how stupid they both are and decide to love their children more then they hate each other.
But, that's not going to happen - so let's get Vince McMann to put it on "pay-per-view" and the money raised can go to pay down the National Debt.
"Are you ready to Ruuuuummmmbbblllleeee in the Desert"?
Never forgot the USS Liberty.
MrIndia - bull f...ing $hit. Your nirvana on the Indian Muslims is dead wrong. They are thee most persecuted bunch in India. Let's not blame our neighbors that easily. The naxalites are coming to knock sense in our thick rears.
MrIndia: I disagree.
A few good people don't reflect the bad lot.
When partition was to be done on the basis of religion, Muslims in the current India voted for Pakistan and they stayed back in India.
Muslims formed eight percent then and now they form 14 percent.
Like every where, if Muslims form more than five percent in a street or place, then that places starts going down fast. Higher the number faster the slide.
See the history of Bongladesh, another liability on earth.
They have persecuted minorities all along.
Now the same criminals have sneaked into India and the liabilities start all their jobs again! There are more than 30 million liabilities from Bongladesh itself!
Forget India for a moment.
You see similar trends in the US, Britain and European nations with Muslims' arrival for "better life" from their hell holes.
All 140 million?
Prejudiced much?
Sounds sort of like what some prejudiced Bangladeshis (or East Pakistanis) were saying about their Hindu countrymen some time back.
The one thing all bigots have in common is that they are all wrong.
The last thing the United States should do is get involved in this war between two terrorist nations. It would be the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas.
Nothing good will come out of Iran until Ali Khamenei goes away.
Al, never forget Iran Embassy hostages. Max, yeah Iran would never think of doing that, and what would the rest of you do with a country who wants to eliminate you from history?
Why doesnt Isreal understand the very simple premise of
DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU'D HAVE DONE TO YOU
it's not that hard, you blow up their scientists and officials...guess what, they'll try to blow up your officials and diplomats.
I have no sympathy...Isreal is just doing what they think is necessary to preserve Isreal, and Iran is just doing what they think is necessary to preserve Iran.
and both, in my book are complete idiots (as is the US in much of what they do).
it's a shame adult boys tend to run the world, and most of the paranoid armies that wreak havoc on the rest of us...
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Iran needs to understand it can't win this petty fighting and spy games. Israel and the Massad have been doing it well for way too many years. If they wanted to, they could probably get to the mullahs, Ayatollah, or their president in assassination.
What part of Georgia did they bomb? Im near atlanta and aint't heard or seen nothin round here.
wlee - you dont know much about the history of the Iran hostage situation and how Reagans administration worked it out with the Iran mullahs not to release the hostages until it tanked Jimmy Carters election.
Iran Contra sound at all familiar?
Guns for hostages?
We are just as currupt as they are...probably more so.
And I cant help but wonder if that saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" implies we are the jews worst enemy, not those "hostile muslim nations"
and think about it...how hostile would you be if muslim nations/armies kept invading America and occupying it...just like we keep doing over there...Iraq, Afghanistan...and now most of you are cheering on an invasion and occupation of Iran.
When does the idocracy end?
When the whole world is lit up in a nuclear war?
Awesome idea... I mean, really...that'll show em!
marlen, really?
All of you claiming that Iran is justified in these attacks because of Israel's hits against Iranian nuclear scientists need to get a grip! Israel targeted people directly involved in Iran's nuclear program after it had become clear that Iran is not going to cooperate with the rest of the players in the game. Here we see Iran targeting diplomats simply because they are Israeli. The people Iran is targeting don't threaten Iran or mankind's very existence. The fact that Iran would even target the wife and children of a diplomat shows how "peaceful" this regime really is. And to those of you who claim that Iran has never carried out any violence in a foreign country need to pull your heads out of the sand.
I love all the "eye for an eye" people...Yeah...Problem is that even Iran can't succeed at trying to take that eye...It's quite funny....
The Government of Iran is worthless and if their people can't rein them in they will be dealt with....It is only a matter of time...And then all of you "oh poor Iran" people wiol wail and cry just like you're at a Muslim funeral....
marlen - You are on the wrong blog...
Jessica, so Reagan worked out a deal with Iranian Mullahs just to sabotage Carter OK.....and all this time I thought it had something to do with us installing the Shah how about that WTC?
Read your history WLee, yes Reagan did undermine Carter with the Iranian hostage situation.
What do we know about the target of these newest attacks? Perhaps Israel is now carrying out attacks against its own 'collaborators', and blaming it on Iran...
It seems extremely unlikely that Iran would use the very same methods to kill as were used against it.
When playing a game of life and death........ never leave your assets unprotected.... unprotected you will get pokerized.... Israeli leadership pull your heads out of your butts and get back in the game.
One could say that it started with the murder of the Isreali Olympic team in the 70's at the Munich massacre. Both groups seem to have a taste for each other's blood. The Israelis are at a 150:1 numerical disadvantage, howerver.
In reality, it wasn't Isrealis who did the assasination, it appears to be MEK. It seems odd to me that there is a connection.
Welcome to the modern day way of war. Where Battlefields are relics and the war wages everywhere.
How do I say this...I'm not taking Iran's side, but Israel shouldn't have expected anything less. If this is the kind of war they (Israel AND Iran) want to fight, let the games begin. Iran already has a set back. They either don't have the money or the tech or the training to kill a target without killing innocent people in the process. They wounded four people in this attack alone. Meanwhile, Israel is flying missiles into windows and throwing bombs at targeted cars from motorcycles. If Iran/Hezbollah keeps this up, they may be painted as the aggressor at the end of all of this.
I should state IF this was Iran. No proof yet.
tHATS true, Nobody knows what Israel is up to, they are a bunch
of whackos, almost as bad as the extreme muslims.
Im sure the zionists in America are doing their best to pull us into
a war with Iran. Israel does not have the capability to bomb Iran.
No long range bombers, which is probably why they are assasinating
all the Iranian scientists. These people are backwards.
Hello folks, our country is broke and weary of war. If Israel wants to start a war, let them finish it alone. The elite are ratcheting up the rhetoric and the warmonger sheeple are getting sucked in to the propaganda. Let’s take an objective look at the Iran situation. Ask yourself, what would happen if Iran attacked an oil refinery in the US? Of course we would go into Iran and bomb their country. Well, we recently bombed an Iranian oil refinery and they didn’t retaliate. We issued sanctions on their oil and export industries and they didn’t retaliate. Israel is killing their scientists and they didn’t retaliate. Why is that?
While appearing vulnerable they took control of the most sophisticated drone on the planet downloaded and deciphered the encrypted information and have our Military intelligence (I know it’s an oxymoron) people worried that top secret information has been compromised.
Do you believe that the Iranian’s have the capability to bring down a state of the art drone and have it land where they want it to and down load and decipher complex encrypted code? It appears that Iran has been getting help and lots of it from a very sophisticated source or sources. The US already declared war on Iran by issuing sanctions and covertly bombing them but they don’t dare overtly go in because it would jeopardize China’s oil flow, piss off Russia, Turkey and the local Arab countries. This would also force Iraq to support Iran. We got kicked out of Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan is trying to get us to leave their country. The Middle East is kicking us out which means we are running out of staging areas and NATO support for an attack on Iran. The US tried to concoct fraudulent excuses to stir up public support to go into Iran. There was the laughable assassination ruse of the Mexican drug cartel and the more unbelievable law suit stating Iran was part of 9/11. There were also claims that Iran attacked Iraq, etc. The elite are running out of false flags. Iran is out foxing the US because they have the world divided and we can’t command an organized response. The UN Security Council voted against the US a few weeks ago. China and Russia have gone on record that if Iran is attacked they would support Iran. The world is getting fed up and bored with our Imperialism and the elite who orchestrate war.
We have been fighting urban wars of attrition for over 10 years now and we are broke, our allies are broke. We have spent close to 3 Trillion dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq. We can’t afford another expensive protracted war a half a world away and the US citizens are sick of war. There is 85% support for Ron Paul amongst our troops because they are sick of war and he’s promised to end the wars. The lengthy wars have depleted our manpower, equipment, and our political capital.
Last week the Census Department of the Federal Government reported that “50% of the nation’s population were living below the poverty line”. Our nation’s wealth has been exhausted by war so that we could secure profits for the banking, oil, and Military/Industrial cartels. We never saw a dime of it and never will because the 1% elite feel they have a Divine Right at our expense. You know their motto, privatize profits and socialize losses. They truly can’t squeeze much more from the peasantry but they will try.
Our government has been trying to get Iran to do something stupid so that we can attack them but they won’t do it. Iran isn’t Iraq or Afghanistan. They haven’t done anything, aren’t weak and they aren’t bluffing. They are asserting their right as a sovereign nation and have the support of some very powerful countries. If we attack Iran, the war will be at our doorstep and then we will see how brave you who espouse war respond. When you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
WHAT? Seriously!
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that both countries are being played against each other by the terrorist groups each one are supposedly using to make the hit on each other.
This looks to me, like a false flag attack. If it is a False Flag attack, then Mossad agents most likely killed Israeli diplomats in order to provide an excuse for Israel to attack Iran by the middle of the week.
Israel has tried this sort of thing before, back in 1967 with the attack , by Israel, on the peaceful USS Liberty. The only reason that failed was that the Liberty was able to get a radio message out. Not one single Israeli went to jail over that by the way.
And thats my opinion.
What if we could prove that there was no God, would they still fight? Is it really religion, ideology, or just hatred causing all the bloodshed. Just a thought!
In 2008 Pakistan attacked India by send terrorists to Mumbai where they murdered 164 people and wounded 308. Last week Pakistan issued a notice that it wanted in on the Iran/Israel confict.
Israel should attack Iranian diplomats in Venezuela and kill two birds with one stone.
"jungle jim-1365067", what religion did Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot belong to?
I would not underestimate India.
Honestly I worry a lot more about India and Pakistan than Iran and Israel.
Israel will seek to end it quickly they do not want a long drawn out war, and from what I understand they are very capable. Iran is 20 years behind them.
What do I know?
IMJ3- None I can think of...I think all of these leaders killed and oppressed their own people, for the most part, Iran is/wants to take out the US and Israel. Most of the killing went on within their own borders.
yep, the jew-haters see false flag attacks jumping out of the woodwork
"yep, dem dang-durned jooos shooor done did it"
Bigotry and then deceits and heaps of lies to cover up the dirtiest acts are part and parcel of Islamic cult!
Pakistan was formed on the basis that Muslims and non-Muslims can't live together. Then there was voting during British times. Muslims all over India voted for Pakistan.
The very Muslims who voted for Pakistan stayed back in India. Are not these Muslims traitors’ and Trojan horses who want to make more Pakistans as in other places?
In two years after the formation of Pakistan in 1947, 23 percent of non-Muslims were reduced to hardly three percent through massive genocides unprecedented in the history of mankind.
In the current Bongladesh, another liability on earth, Hindus formed about 40 percent. Now they hardly form less than 10 percent.
In the last century, fates of Armenians were similar in 1910s in Turkish region.
Tell me: who has world patent on bigotry and lies.
Most of the times, mistakes are due to non-Muslims.
In that case why Muslims are there in infidel nations like the US, Britain and other European nations?
Why don't they pack their dirtiest baggage and go back to some Muslim nation?
They won't have non-Muslims to blame at least!
This was just a setup by Israel to try and play the "VICTIM" role as usual.
Lets say Iran did have somthing to do with it.... so WHAT?? As an American we care for all human life and not just one race or religion. Israel has murdered numerous men, women, and children and never apologize for it, but when somthing happens to Israelis its supposed to be different? Israel will have to learn that trying to spread Jewish supremacy will only end up in violence just as they have shown their neighbors terrorism, terrorism will come to them.
This has nothing to do with the United States and if we dont control this virus called Israel, than we should have nothing to do with the retaliation that occurs to Israel either.
right, what a load of crap, and the Iranian that blew his own legs off in Thailand today?
some people will make any kind of bull@!$%# to justify their hatred of jews
I'm with US citizen-701707's post from Feb. 13, 2012 8:40Am EST all the way but I may have one slight difference with him/her...........that just because they're Jew haters doesn't make them racists. I just think they're Nazis. Most people who hate the Jews have never had a Jew do anything bad to them. So where does all that hate come from? It comes from somewhere deep down in their dark souls. I'm not a Jew but I wish I were. You see, my best friend was a Jew. He loved me so much that he died for me. His name is Jesus. And now I can just hear all the wining, left winging liberal, pack animals ready to attack and who will leave a thousand bashings for what I'm about to write, but who cares what they say. They may say things like, "off with his head, off with his head!!!" Don't the Muslims use serrated knives to saw people's heads off? Or maybe they'll say, "Crucify! Crucify!" They don't know (or reject) history's lessons so they are doomed to repeat it. They are so far left that they are confused. The goal of the demon Muslims since Islam began (Islam means "peace". Yeah, right. Give me a break! Their "peace" means FORCED submission and surrender to Allah, the "moon god" or the "sword god" until all the world is under forced submission to Al-lilah) and even before that when their half-breed ancestor, wild donkey boy Ishmael has been in trying to get even with Isaac and his descendants. The Bible says that the name "Ishmael" means "wild ass" or "wild donkey", and that his hand would be against his brothers' hands and his brothers' hands would be against his hand. And in the face of his brethren, he would die. And he did. So, absolutely, one of the liberal commentators on this page was correct when he stated that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword". I guess that even a broken clock can be right twice a day. Blaming Israel is always a convenient excuse for ignorant people who don't know any better. Take Afghanistan for instance. Now, there's a country where Muslims have been in charge and what have they done? First, they got rid of any Jews there. Then the Christians were tortured, killed, and driven out next. Then they got rid of any other competing religions. And when they expelled all the rest of the "infidels", who did the Muslims kill? The Muslims started killing each other, you dummies! So yes, he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. The Ishmaelites have been making the claim for thousands of years that they were the blessed nation but it's only because they do NOT know their own history (or perhaps, have concealed and perverted that information). It was Isaac who received the blessing (Deuteronomy 32:5-7) and the land as his inheritance and NOT Ishmael. And because of this, those jealous frigging Ishmaelites have been plotting, scheming, and murdering ever since, trying to destroy Israel, whom the land belonged to originally and divinely. As a side note, it's just too bad that Abraham and Sarah were so desperate for a child that she would condone and allow Abraham's impregnating that Egyptian slave, Hagar the horrible. He just had to go and screw around with Hagar, you know? That's really where all this trouble began. That little half-breed Ishmael has been creating trouble for thousands of years. Dysfunctional families really do suck. But let's get one fact straight, the land belongs to Israel. Now, for all you ignorant, liberal, knee-jerk reactionists, let's study a little history, alright? Stop smoking your legalized marijuana for a few hours and you just may be able to learn something or let something seep into that drug addled brain of yours. Don't get your panties in a bunch. It's time to wear your panties like a big girl. Who is Allah? Before Mohammed arrived on the scene, the Arabic people had a polytheistic system of 360 different Gods that they worshipped (talk about schizophrenia). Mohammed saw how successful the Jews and Christians were in worshipping one God (the true God of the universe, I have to editorialize). So he convinced the Arabs to pare it down to only one of those gods. And who did they choose as their one "God"? Ironically, they chose "Allah", or "Al-ilah", the "moon" god or the "sword" god. So yes, he who lives by the sword dies by the sword. In fact, the name "Allah" was previously used by pre-Islamic, pagan Meccans and poly-theistic Arabs as a reference to a god who was not considered the sole divinity, having associates and companions, sons and daughters, a concept that was deleted under the process of Islamization. The history of Mohammed himself is equally ridiculous and sad and I feel sorry for all the poor, ignorant people throughout history who have been hoodwinked by the lies. Did you know that Mohammed claimed to hear "voices" and his wife told him "you are a prophet greater than Moses"? Subsequently, he went to the Jewish people living in the region and told them, "I am a prophet greater than Moses". So the Jewish people told him, "you are crazy. Moses was a prince forty years in the cruel Pharaoh's court, a shepherd forty years under Jethro, and at age 80 he got his marching orders from God to deliver the Israelites out of bondage. 120 years in service to God and here you are, a fifty year old illiterate, nomad, camel driver telling us that you're greater than Moses?" So the Jews sent him away. Next, he went to the Christians living in Mecca and told them, "I'm a prophet greater than Jesus Christ". And of course, the Christians would have nothing to do with him. So he went to the Arabs and told them the same things and they accepted him as their prophet. Too bad. By the way, in the Greek language, the word for "voices" is "demon", our English word demon. He heard demonic voices in his head. He was possessed by an evil spirit. Or maybe he was an epilipetic. Another point of fact is how the Koran came to be written. It could not have even been written by the Muslims because they were illiterate, even for hundreds of years after the death of Mohammed. Now, depending upon which version of the account you have read, the Muslims were said to have kidnapped (not surprising at all) a Jewish man of letters who was able to read and write or a Christian missionary and forced either one to write the Koran. It is a sick joke book. I'd like to get my hands on whoever wrote it because of the trouble it has stirred for centuries with other religions the world over. Whoever wrote this sick joke book should have been hanged. It has caused the deaths of untold millions of people. Another deception that many Muslims and westerners alike are brainwashed by is the phrase, "Allahu Akbar", which the Muslims (and a Time Magazine article that I read years ago claimed) chant in their mosques and say that the term means, "God is great". Now, don't we all know that God is great? Don't we believers all believe that God is great? But when Muslims (and Time Magazine) say thats what the term refers to, don't you believe it? Beware of $3 dollar Clinton bills. It's actually a diminutive (or comparative) phrase whereby Muslims are saying that their "God" is greater than the God of the Jew or the Christian. So now, here's a question for all of you reading this............in the Bible, who said he was greater than God before he fell from grace? Satan. The god of the Muslims is Satan. Anyone who would tell their followers to murder innocent people and that they would go to heaven and receive 72 virgins is definitely evil and satanic in nature. The Palestinians pay $25,000 to the families of any successful suicide bomber. I'm reminded of a news story from well over 10 years ago about a Palestinian, Muslim family living in St. Louis, MO. They had a 16 year old daughter who was dating a black, Christian boy in that city and when her parents found out about it, they murdered their own daughter. The girl called 911 and while they were beating their daughter to death, the 911 operator could hear the parents quoting the following verse over and over as they slaughtered her.............."Believers and Muslims, take neither the Jew nor the Christian as your friend. If you take them as your friend, you will become just like them!" Allah does not guide the wrongdoer!" Those are some really nice parents, those Muslims. With parents like this, who needs enemies? I recently moved here to Colorado but I am originally from, and resided my entire life (44 years) in the Detroit, MI area where lives the highest Muslim population in the United States. So don't any of you liberals ever dare to tell this man that they are good and peaceful and that their religion is good and peaceful, too. I dealt with their nefarious ways for over four decades and you will not brainwash me into following your liberal rants. Another deception of Islam is this business that Muslims and Jihadists (holy war, better yet, holy bs) will tell you that they also believe in and revere Jesus Christ. Do not be deceived, especially you young, impressionable people. In the Hadith (the Hadith is a commentary to the Koran like the Talmud is a commentary to the Old Testament. Please pardon the comparison. I feel like I'm being very sacreligious comparing it to the real book of love), it makes mention of the Muslim Jesus Christ. Now, many believers from all religions agree today that we're living in the last days and that some major, world changing events will occur very soon. But again, do not be deceived by Islam. In the Hadith, according to the Muslims, when the Jesus Christ of Islam returns, he will go up to the mountain and pray with 144,000 believers (not sure if I'm right about that number). Then he will come down from the mountain and break all the Christian crosses, destroy all the churches and Jewish synagogues and kill all the Jews. Also, any Christians who will not surrender and submit to Allah at this time will also be killed. According to this commentary, some will temporarily escape and hide behind rocks and trees. The following verse from the Hadith is often quoted as to what will occur next................the rocks and trees will suddenly come to life and have mouths to speak. They will say, "Oh Muslim pursuer, there is a Jew or a Christian hiding behind me! Come and kill him!" lol Now I ask all of you, is this a religion of peace and love? Don't be deceived. Their Jesus Christ and the real Jesus Christ are two very different figures. Their religion is a religion of pacifism. I'm not from the Vietnam war generation but ask anyone who lived through that time what the word "pacified" means to them. Whenever news commentators reported that a Viet Cong village had been "pacified", it meant that American troops had napalmed the crap out of the village, leveling it to the ground. Again, it's nothing more than terrorism and forced submission and surrender to their god Satan (er, Allah). Now, let's do a little examination of Saddam Hussein and the rest of the Muslim world's dealings with respect to it's treatment of Israel. It's not widely known that Hussein had an uncle who joined the Nazi army during WWII and fought for Adolph Hitler's goons. Uncle Hussein was definitely a Hitler devotee, as was his nephew who took a page from Mein Kampf and the Nazi play book when you examine the historical record. Iran and the rest of the Muslim terrorists are all Nazis when it comes to their treatment of Israel. This has been their goal and directive all along, NOT to drive the Jews from Israel, but to drive them into the sea and totally annihilate the Jewish people, just like Adolph Hitler. Case in point, several years ago when Israel had some very liberal cabinet members and president in their midst, they went to the "peace" table with Yasser (the Rat) Arafat and met about 98% of this devil's demands for land, concessions, etc. Yet, on the day of the "peace" signing, the Rat walked away from the table and refused to sign it. Because it's not about land, peace, oil or anything else. His only goal was Israel's total destruction. It is not enough for the Muslims to get the Jews out of Israel. They want them out of existence (along with all the other idiots who don't know any better, including some Christian leaders! Unbelievable! It goes to show how Satan has even crept into theological seminaries) They forget the admonition God spoke thousands of years ago when he told Moses, "I will bless those who bless you (Israel) and I will curse those who curse you." American political leaders and all of you other liberals had better pay heed to this or your life will turn to crap. Oh wait, it probably already has. Or how about the mass partying that went on for days in the Middle East after the World Trade Centers and thousands of lives were lost? God is a very meticulous bookkeeper. As for those who poke fun at Benjamin Netanyahu, he's the only one who knows what it takes to deal with terrorists. He tried advising American leaders a few years ago that the only language a terrorist understands is violence. In other words, they will never understand reasoning or peacful discussions about what can be done. If they hit you, you must pound them harder. If they take 10 innocent lives on the street or in a hotel, then you must take 1000 lives and even then they will not listen. And of course, it's difficult to do this when the terrorists routinely take innocent women and children hostage to protect themselves and hole up in a church, mosque, or synagogue, cowards that they are. That's why America is in the mess it is. We'll need to have a presence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the rest of the Middle East until the end of time. That's another reason we're going bankrupt, letting the lilly liberals (Republican and Democrats) spending money trying to help the rest of the world. There are so many prostitutes on both sides of the political aisle. But just turn your backs on Israel and see what happens. Or is it that we have a bunch of Nazis disguised as liberals running around? Israel should keep turning the other cheek until they no longer exist, right? Anyone who thinks that is insane in the membrane. I know some or many of you may be thinking that I hate Muslims or something but nothing could be further from the truth. Are Russians loving people? Yes. But are communists loving people? No. What about German people, are they loving? Yes. But are Nazis loving people? No. How about Arabic people, are they loving? Yes, they have the capability of being that way because they are, like all human beings, created in the image of God. But many Muslims are hateful because, like communists or nazis, they've been corrupted and perverted by evil, satanic systems which teach them to hate. It was said long ago that the Jews are the apple of God's eye and the Christians have been grafted (through Christ) into the apple of God's eye. God loves the Jew. He made promises to the Jews. God loves the Christians and also made promises to the them as well. But Satan (Allah) hates the Jews. He hates the Jews because they gave the Bible to the world. And he hates the Christians. He hates the Christians because the Christians preach the Bible to the world. And Satan (Allah) hates the Muslims. He hates the Muslims because they can be a loving people but have been subverted I fear, to their own destruction. The Muslims will not stop fighting until every drop of their own blood is spilled. And God has promised that He will destroy them long before they ever get to our destruction. In the Koran, there are over 600 statements saying, "Allah loves this...." or "Allah loves that" but within the entire context of the book, it has only proven to this man after I read it, that Islam is NOT a religion of love or true peace. This book never states, "Love God with all your heart, mind, and spirit." And it never states, "Love your neighbor as yourself." In California and in my home state of Michigan, young elementary school children are allowed to dress in Islamic garb and encouraged to take on the Jihad but Christian prayer and customs are forbidden and have been all but removed from the schools. I remember a few years ago when the American Jewish Federation (I think it was in Oakland-Berkeley, CA) donated millions of dollars to the PLO for summer camps for Palestinian children as a goodwill gesture. They're crazy, just as crazy as the terrorist Muslims! The Palestinians took the money and used it for indoctrinating those children with anti-Israel hate campaigns, teaching them in textbooks that the Holocaust of WWII never happened and that the only good Jew is a dead Jew. The children in these camps drew pictures of murdered Jews and themselves as the killers. Even the Jews in the U.S. are crazy liberals if they continue to try and make peace with people so unreasonable. So some of you writing in this forum that the Jews are getting what they deserve, perhaps you're correct. I wouldn't help terrorists at all, not a penny, nada. Maybe changing the subject here, but it is as integral a part of everything else I've written here.............over the course of many years, I've heard and read surveys and opinion polls about who was the greatest U.S. president in history. Everyone should know that it was the first president, George Washington. Don't anyone say Franklin Roosevelt for he was one of the biggest socialists (communist) of all time. If I knew nothing else, Washington would get my vote because of his isolationist policy when he said, "The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have as little political connection as possible...why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe (or any part of world turmoil), entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalships, interest, humor, or caprice?... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world." Many progressives or modern, forward thinkers today would argue that he said that over 200 years ago and this wisdom doesn't apply today, that the world is a vastly different place now. But I say, that policy should still apply today and that America would be way better off and very prosperous if we had clung to that ideal. We have alot of elitists (liberal or conservative, doesn't matter what they call themselves) that are bent on bringing the entire world under one umbrella and of course, they would argue with Washington's principles. Just think about it, we could finally remove the I.V. bleed the vampires have placed in the arm of the U.S., stop bankrupting ourselves and we could build the greatest defense of our own shores including creating the latest and greatest bombs, missiles, and defense systems to crush anyone who would f--k with us. We'd have plenty of prosperity for all the people of this country instead of giving it to countries and people who always double cross and turn their backs on us anyway. Anyone with common sense knows that you cannot buy friendship. If you're required to give someone money to have their friendship, then they will never be your friend anyway, including Muslim terrorists, especially Muslim terrorists. Instead of pledging billions of dollars or bushels of wheat for them to consume, let them eat their crude oil instead, and let us start drilling our own oil right under the ground in the U.S. We could bring the price of a gallon of gasoline down to fifty or sixty cents, and therefore bring down the prices of most goods and services that Americans use. And as for the liberals who are all united in their common hatred of Israel, I'd love to cattle brand their rear ends, give them one piece of luggage and a one way ticket to the Middle East country of their choice, and tell them, "may your chains set lightly upon you, fool." And before you think that I have any use for the Democrats or Republican leaders of the U.S., think again. No matter who we vote for, we always drift to the left, regardless. As I stated before, there are prostitutes on both sides of the aisle. In his eight years raping the American people, George Dubya Bush spent more of our money than all presidents combined in history. And in his couple of years in the White House, Barack Hussein Obama has exceeded Georgie's spending. It's time to remove the I.V. bleed. There are lots of enemies of good people everywhere in this world. And even though a crack house is not a nice place, the real enemy isn't in a crack house. Some of the real enemies have lived in the White House. And one final item that is in reference to FrankBlackstone's post from Sunday Feb. 19, 2012 6:52 PM. Frank is like alot of people who show their ignorance when they open their mouths (or type with their fingers, in this case). In fact, I was among the ranks of the ignorant before I found some good teachers and learned of this certain key, and obscure piece of history.............no Frank, the "Jews" did NOT have Jesus crucified. Some of the folks who were in power at that time, religiously speaking, only claimed to be Jews. Many centuries before, they crept into, and through their "scribe" work, claimed to be and tried "grafting" themselves into the tribe of Judah. They were really good scribes, always having their little pens in hand. And since our brother Judah never liked to keep books that much anyway, it was pretty simple for these people to complete the scam. I'm sure that the high priest Caiaphas was one of them. They were in fact, Kenites. I don't expect many people who have not studied to understand this fact. I've been studying it for about 15 years now and have just begun to even scratch the surface. Kenites. Remember that word, Frank, or any of you reading it who THINK that the Jews were responsible for murdering the son of God. For thousands of years, they have been creating trouble for all of Israel (not just the tribe of Judah, also called the Jews), and then they stand back after instigating something, and let everyone else take the heat. If you really want to find the information about this, then you will. If you don't, then have a nice trip into ignorance. It was all written down thousands of years ago. Even pastors who claim to be Christians and political science experts don't know of this and that's why we have so many liberals trying to make peace with Muslims and not only letting them steal from the cookie jar, they're giving them the cookie jar, too!
The fix is in, people. Be prepared, it's later than you think.
get a lot of that even today, frequently people claiming that god is talking to them .
its called schizophrenia, and they make a pill for that
payback's a bitch
Who and when did the payback start 1948???
1967???
1978???
2011??
2012??
Unfourtunetly BIGDOG2, although its been going on soooo long no one can really tell what the score is and whats considered "pay-back" and whats not.....but one thing is for certain....neither has the brain cells or morals to stop.
The fact it continues means they are both willing partners in this slaughty fest.
There will be no solution to the problem of Muslims murdering both Jews and Muslims as long as we have individuals on this cite incapable of determining right from wrong. Mahatma Ghandi told the world not to fight Hitler. If a man as great as that was ethically challenged (he did not understand true evil), why would one expect Robert-205692 and his supporters to get it.
That's right. Because Newsvine comments determine world politics and politicians all over the world read these comments daily to decide what policy should be.
Payback? Iran is the country that refuses to live in peace. Iran is the country that promotes hatred and intolerance of other nationalities, religions, etc.
Iran has HUGE rallies where they all they do is chant Death to America.. search Youtube and see for yourself. If Iran was a free and open society, the Mossad would be in Israel minding it's own business. This whole thing is due to the Iranians and people are saying "tit for tat".. ridiculous.. Israel is being forced to do these things to protect itself from a country that has said over and over that it seeks the destruction of Israel. And now, that country may be on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon..
All this conflict is being initiated by the Iranians NOT the Israelis.. And people are bashing Israel? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense..
Here are some "people" that may be better to listen to than some talking head:
Col. Wilkerson, former chief of staff for former Secretary of State Colin Powell:
"We're marching down a road for yet another war in western Asia. A war that will be disastrous not just for the region, but for the United States of America too. "Look at what's happening in Israel right now. Israeli leaders from the Israeli defense force, military, the Mossad, everywhere across the leadership spectrum in Israel, there are people coming out and saying-either retired or in one case active-this is crazy. Netanyahu and Lieberman and the rest of that gang are leading us down the road to Armageddon."
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Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta:
"[If Iran were to be attacked] the United States would obviously be blamed and we could possibly be the target of retaliation from Iran, striking our ships, striking our military bases, and there are economic consequences to that attack....which could impact a very fragile economy in Europe and a fragile economy here in the United States.
"The consequence could be that we would have an escalation that would take place that would not only involve many lives, but I think it could consume the Middle East in a confrontation and a conflict that we would regret."
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Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates:
"A military solution, as far as I am concerned...it will bring together a divided nation. It will make them absolutely committed to obtaining nuclear weapons. And they will just go deeper and more covert. The only long-term solution in avoiding an Iranian nuclear weapons capability is for the Iranians to decide it is not in their interest. Everything else is a short-term solution."
[Reuters, 11/16/10]
"Any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General [Douglas] MacArthur so delicately put it."
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General Anthony Zinni, former CENTCOM commander:
"I think anybody that believes that it would be a clean strike and it would be over and there would be no reaction is foolish."
[PBS, 8/04/09]
"After you've dropped those bombs on those hardened facilities, what happens next? [...] What happens if they launch them into U.S. bases on the other side of the gulf? [...] And of course the economy of the world goes absolutely nuts....what happens if another preemptive attack by the West, the U.S. and Israel, they fire up the streets and now we got problems. Just tell me how to deal with all that, okay?"
"Because, eventually, if you follow this all the way down, eventually I'm putting boots on the ground somewhere. And like I tell my friends, if you like Iraq and Afghanistan, you'll love Iran."
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Brigadier General John Johns, former combat arms officer in U.S. Army:
"While rhetoric about military strikes may work as an applause line in Republican debates, there is little or no chance that military action would be quite so simple. Quite the contrary. Defense leaders agree that the military option would likely result in serious unintended consequences.
"America ought not consider another war in the Middle East without a very serious discussion of the consequences. Political candidates should curb their jingoistic, chauvinistic emotions and temper their world view with a little reflective, rational thought.
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from and more quotes to be found at: http://fcnl.org/issues/iran/us_israeli_security_officials_warn_against_war_with_iran/
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or was Bush's Iraq not enough for you - like it wasn't for McCain and DeMintt?
Corporate America would love for us Gullibles to fight another one of THEIR wars!
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I agree, Iran is the aggressor here. They said repeatedly they want the wipe the US and Israel out. Normally saying it wont be that big of a deal, all bark and no bite right? Yea only problem with that is how do you know they wont walk the walk? Some muslims believe so bad that they strap bombs to their chest and blow themselves up for their cause, What makes you think that Iran PM wont try and commit mass genocide/Suicide for his beliefs?
Its better not to let them have a WMD since they seem unstable. If they are peacefully working towards nuclear energy and not weapons why didn't they take that trade with Russia to trade their uranium for Nuclear fuel rods?
Wiz...funny that. Nuclear fuel rods would have helped create plutonium for a bomb. Which is why the US decided to continue to work with the current form of nuclear energy instead of Thorium, a much safer and easily managed form of nuclear power. Go figure. The US has always been a military first, humanity second kind of power. It has it's good points and bad.
Any country with nuclear or superior weaponry is an aggressor of sorts.
Aaron - you forgot to mention jews murdering muslims, but I get the feeling you dont think thats ever happened. and IF IT HAS, it was always done with the most amount of legitamacy, right?
sorry, I dont live in such a crazy world.
i mean, who thought plunking jewish people down in the middle of the arab desert was going to begin, last or end well?
oh I know, biblically it's practically theirs...*rolls eyes* and then once we plunked them down, with the help of rich christian nations, they absolutely won that land fair and square *rolls eyes* so the muslims just need to get over it and let the nice jewish people live peacefully.
well, newsflash...thats not how the world works.
They chose this place with an undeniable understanding that would it result in never ending conflict...now they must live with that reality for as long as they can manage..
or, they should admit this is not the ideal place to raise a nation...and find nice, white christian people to offer up some free land so they can continually expand and take more than they were offered...and they can tick off their "friends" and see how that pans out over time.
I hear in Canada, there's tons of wide open space...Alaska too.
Two very fine solutions to this problem...but Isreal isnt looking for solutions, they are looking for white christians to rally with them so that those "evil muslims" can be wiped off the face of the earth...because we all know, short of that...there will be no peace right?
Ironic, Im guessing thats why muslims wants jews wiped off the face of the planet...because so long as they exist, mulslims wont know peace either.
Funny how the idiotic world works that way.
depends on the fuel rod and the reactor. A thorium fuel rod that uses Liquid Fuel produces less plutonium which would cause more harm to modify to produce more plutonium then good towards making a nuclear bomb.
(not a nuclear expert, only what I read from the nuclear being built in Georgia which discussed the different types of fuel rods)
@Jessica: If you really believe anything you posted in #2.9, then I suggest you do 2 things, 1) Pick up a legitimate history book and do the research for yourself, stop listening to all the propaganda. The creation and existence of Israel is not nearly as black and white as you seem to think. There were many Jewish people living in the area prior to 1948, and most of the Arabs that were living there made the choice to pack up and join the armies of Israel's enemies rather than peacefully coexist in a 2 state solution which the Israeli's accepted. That's a fact. Now, over half a century later, the Palestinians, are saying "we've been wanting peace all along, we're the victims here." Well, sorry if after over 50 years of continued aggression towards Israeli citizens, the Israeli's aren't going to simply take their word for it. And now we have Iran funding and training the terrorists that are constantly attacking Israel. And we're supposed to believe that the Iranian regime has no agenda of destroying Israel?
The other thing, I sure hope you are a Native American, because if anything you've posted is true, and you are a non-Native American, then you've made the most hypocritical statement on this thread. Typing your drivel while living on land you stole from the indigenous population, how about you pack up and move to Alaska or Canada, since as you suggest, they have plenty of space there.
Jessica raises a point seldom seen in these posts. How could anyone have thought that creating a Jewish homeland in what amounts to a totally Muslim area of the world might be a good idea? The developed nations were all consumed with guilt over 'The Final Solution' at the end of WWII. Ripping a hunk from Palestine and giving it to the Jews guaranteed two things: an ongoing and savage war and that Israel would eventually become the thing it so feared. We cannot relocate Israel; if that ever was viable it isn't now. Whatever side is victorious there is no moral high ground for either - only the stench of an oncoming genocide in the air.
ZDub: Thank you for your contribution. It opens the door to thoughts of the bombing of the King David Hotel by Jewish extremeists. The Irgun arm of the Israeli military comes to mind along with their systematic destruction of Muslim villages. How about Mossad and their ongoing spy efforts against this country? As I said in the post above, there is no moral high ground here. As far as Jessica being a Native American, it's apples and oranges, dude. Well thought out or not, she advances an idea while you offer nothing but apologies for the situation Israel and Iran are quickly drawing the US into.
Complete nonsense. You cannot justify the murders Israel is committing. Israel has called for the 'government of Israel to disappear from the pages of time/history' -- and that is something that even a pacifist can get behind.
What goes around comes around...
Maybe the Israelis should give the Iranians one of their nukes . . . preferably right on top of one of the few enrichment facilities that is NOT constructed in the basement of a Children's Hospital.
@Mike: Sorry dude it's not apples and oranges. It's so easy for people like you and Jessica to cry about how an "indigenous" population has been forced out to make room for an "invading force" while you sit in the comfort of your home or office that was built on land that was stolen from an idigenous population. This is the very definition of hypocracy!
Although, I guess in a way you are correct. The difference in this case is that the Palestinians are not the indigenous population in the area. If anything its the Jews. You both seem to have forgotten that the Jewish people lived in the area well before Islam became a religion and milenia before the term "Palestinian" as it is used today came about.
Maybe if the Muslim nations in the area weren't so hellbent on ethnically cleansing their own populations, and could have demonstrated that they can promote tolerant, racially and culturally diverse societies, there wouldn't have been the need to establish a Jewish homeland. But after being persecuted all over the world, the Jewish people decided to return back to the land they came from and join there brothers and sisters who were already there.
I opened the door to discussions about Israeli extremism? We can post the lists of Muslim and Jewish acts of terrorism and see how they stack up side by side.
I do agree that at this stage in the game, there is no moral high-ground on either side, never denied it. I was simply pointing out the hypocrasy behind Jessica's (and now your's) statements. I think pointing out that hypocracy is a lil bit more original than butt kissing another poster and rehashing the same, tired, anti-Israel B.S. So if you want to call me out for offering nothing new, then how about you offer something resembling an informed, factually accurate, and original opinion?
Zdub...I wonder if you are aware of the apartheid state that is Israel...they have housing discrimination, employment discrimination, charge men with rape whose offense is using a Jewish name to get a girl in bed consentually but actually being Muslim. Also, the Ashkanazi Jews (eastern Euro Jews) discriminate racially against the Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews (Iberian penninsula and Arab Jews). Also, the reason why acts of terrorism are imbalanced media wise is because most of what Israeli's do that qualify as terrorism are military run gorilla warfare tactics (mixed in with long range missals and assassinations in foreign countries). The perception is that what the Israeli's do is military operations while what the Muslims do is terrorism but in reality its all the same...unnecessary loss of life is still unnecessary whether media calls it terrorism or military missions...spin doesn't matter.
essentially all those blasting Palestinians/Arabs but praising Israel are laying it on too thick...both are part of the problem and until they understand this, there's not much we can do about it. The reality is that in terms of equal opportunities for all, minority integration, rights of minorities etc, Israel has more in common with Arab countries then it does with the West, so lets not paint this in a way that Israel is a beakon sitting on a hill while all the others are war mongering (also the way us Americans feel about our country, that we are above petty stuff when in reality we engage in war more than just about any other country, other than our puppet countries like the UK, Australia, Germany)
Please die with the rest of the Iranians who think their terrorism is worth anything to anyone.
What's silly about this whole thing is that the Iranian attack DIDN'T EVEN KILL ANYONE. The attacks against Iranian scientists were surgical, precise attacks designed to harm only the single target they were after. The stupid Iranians couldn't even get the Defense Minister...wounding -- not killing -- the wife instead. How incompetent! The Iranians are sloppy (wounding other people in a different car?) and inefficient (they didn't even kill anyone?). These are precisely the wrong hands for nuclear technology. Please, blow up more Iranian scientists, and a few of their political leaders for good measure.
satnaam, you are full of hot air with no meaning behind the gusts. What, specifically, do you think Israel has in common with Arab countries? Or are you merely demonstrating your tendency to over-generalize when the details are too numerous and complex for your brain to understand? What country can claim a history even remotely similar to Israel? What Arab nation bears even a remote cultural similarity to Israel? But I waste my time asking these questions, knowing there is no real answer. The only answer is hot-winded, under-educated, disinformed internet e-thug-wannabes spitting words about things they know nothing about -- santaam amongst others.
case in point...validated...this is exactly what the Arabs do as well...instead of figuring out ways to come together in peace, both sides war monger and play the blame game. It's just one giant pissing match and people die as a result. All I'm saying is that their are many innocent causalities on both sides and both sides are morons who don't respect their enemy in basic human rights ways...
Are they sure this was not a chevy volt battery pack problem?
lol!
Good old American ingenuity!
Its a Toyota.
I think the throttle stuck.
Well there was always the Pinto. Maybe that car is still around in those countries.
Gabby the Ford Festiva is still made in Iran! LOL!!!!! This is true BTW!
No. It was just a woman driving.
Not nice Ranman87
I could have sworn I saw them in South Korea as the KIA "pride"
An avalanche has begun, and it is to late for the pebbles to vote. It is becomming clear that attacks like this will only increase. It is important that all concerned remember. that attcking innocent civilians is immoral and unacceptable. Those whom wish to fight wish to do so, have the good common sense to request a place on the planet in which you can do so...then those "aggreived parties" can blow themselves into the next universe to thier heart's content, and leave the rest of us alone and in peace!!
How about a reverse HUNGER GAMES for the politicians and those in the shadows behind them that want and profit by these incessant wars? Hey, reality tv, are you listening?
Well, I guess thats what happens when you send the Mossad out to carry out your dirty tricks, tit for tat. Alls even in the game of dirty politics.
Lets Play Fair, except it wasn't Mossad, it was Iranian dissidents Peoples Mujahedin of Iran.
"Lets Play Fair, except it wasn't Mossad, it was Iranian dissidents Peoples Mujahedin of Iran."
True,but hired by Israel to do the murders.If I remember,if you hire someone to commit a murder,your as guilty as the killer.
Letsplayfair, do you not understand that was a great move by whoever to slow down Iran from getting nuclear weapons .A nation that is led by a insane leader who would have no problems using it.We need to learn from israel on how to handle the 5th century countries.
Hey Marty, my point is wtf says the United States should even have nuclear weapons seeing as they are the only real terrorists who have detonated anything resembling a weapon of mass destruction. I would say the Americans shouldn't have them either, bunch of bloody cowboys.
LOL LOL LOL LOL, learn from Israel, come on buddy the Jews are the biggest rascists on this planet.
Letsplayfair, the use of the a-bomb brought an end to the war with fewer casualties compared to an all out invasion of Japan
Sean, yeah if you hired someone as opposed to doing it yourself they'll kill you twice
They certainly can't be upset about t his, since they do it to others ALL the time in the name of their own interests. They make a h abit of assassination and bombings, and what's more, they are PROUD of it. Well, are th ey proud now/ This is the result.
Boner, you are a horrible reader. I see nothing in the article that says or shows Israeli pride. The article does reflect the usual taciturn attitude of the Israelis. Is taciturn too big a word for you?
Mr. Christian, it's kinda like pleading the fifth to me. As Col. Schultz used to say, "I know Nothing"
That was SGT. Schultz and COL. Klink
Ooooops...danke schoen.
The middle east will be a sparkling river of glass with sand castle dead bodies. Who do we thank for this? Foreign involvement from countries meddling in other countries affairs.
Hey they car bombed that physicist in Iran. What did they expect, Flowers and candy. It's funny when Israel kills they are always in the right but when they have it happen to them they cry like babies. Want the violence to stop then stop stealing land . When will they see that they are the terrorists. Every day Christians from all over the world see it. OK I'm ready for the whimpering Jews to lash out about this post.
well said.
The difference being that the Israelis actually hit their intended targets, while their enemies blow up the wrong people.
Hey, man, you have to get off of whatever you're smoking. Where did you see anyone "crying" or "whimpering"? You, people, call the land purchasing "stealing" and kill your own who sells it. My guess is all resposible in these heinous attacks will be hunted down.
that mossad was behind the attacks in iran are as of yet still unconfirmed rummours Now I aint saying they did or did not do it, but I can understand why they would GO ISREAL.
When the end of time comes (and it will) all of those who discredit the Jews in any respect will burn in hell for eternity and this is a fact of the bible and even if you don't believe it you will.
OK ,I'm sure you will be welcomed into heaven with open arms. Evil Zionist. P.S increase your medication you nut.
Israel: a small country surrounded by over 80 million Muslims who want the country wiped out.
Jew: a person with a strong memory of the Holocaust.
Combination: A country populated by people who will never again go quietly to their deaths. A country with the intellectual capacity to build their defense and the courage to use that capacity whenever and wherever it is needed.
Go Israel!
Yeah, Alexander, the Palestinians "sell" their lands and then head straight to the nearest refugee camp. You're such a freaking genius, ain't ya?
Vega, the Israelis and you need to stop fighting Nazi ghosts in your heads and get real. But let me ask you, if what the Nazis did was so horrible that the Israelis feel they have to strike out then why the hell aren't the Israelis killing Germans?
What's the problem, are the blond and blue-eyed Germans to beautiful to kill so Israel feels it's easier to occupy and kill dark-skin civilians?
I mean, if there anyone in the world that deserves to be occupied and prevented from having their own country it has got to be the freaking Germans, right? They're the ones who murdered over 6 million Jews, among others.
But what better way to get out your anger than to go to a poor country who can hardly defend themselves and destroy them to take out your anger. Wow, you sure have some big balls, buddy!
They can't steal what is theirs.
Jews will forever be a victim , they tell us their founding father terrorists have changed their stripes and their past should be forgoten yet every other day the holocaust is thrown in our face , yet we never hear mention of the 15 million non jews that perished .
So why do we forgive and forget the Began and company but do not foregive and forget the germans who not harmed anyone in 65yrs.
The Israelil claim to the promised land is about as lame as their claim they are gods chosen . If the are so special then why has god dumped on them so many times . I can't seem to find a single race that god has turned his back on so many times
And this time around I haven't heard anyone claim god came to them in a burning bush telling the to go back , it was a bunch of Christians who goal is to bring on the rapture , sounds like satans doings
God will forever punish the jews for killing his only begotten Son. Just like the jews will always remember the holocaust, God will always remember the Crucifixion.
The Jew's didn't kill his only begotton son, you idiot. Didn't you read the bible or see the movie Mel Gibson made? It was the Romans who were governing Israel at that time. There wasn't 1 Jew who put a nail in Christ's hands or feet. THe Governer asked the Jew's if he was their savior and the son of God and the Jew's beleiving in only one deity said he was not Their savior. He was a prophet not their messiah. Now land has been changing since the begining of time, if you think that the Jew's have no right to their heritage of Israel, them maybe you should take the American Indian off their reservation and give them your home, for it was originally the Indians land. The Jew's fought for that land and won against many obsticales, they are surrounded by Arab enimies. They didn't ask for any American ground troops like Iraq or Affganistan,or any Un no fly zones like Libiya. They had no fire power in the 40"s,America or Europe wasn't giving them ammunition, so God was on their side. maybe God sees how abusive the Arabs are to their own people, wheather you are in Egypt, Iran. Iraq, Afgan., libiya, Syria, etc. all over the Middle East ,they have one dik after another abusing their populas. And for the idiot Mountainbike, get off your bike ,go back to school and learn some of history. Go to the Middle East and see how the marority of citizens are being treated in those countries compared to how they are treated in Israel. THe Jew's purchased a lot of their land from the Palistanians ,them they turned the desert into farm land and noe the Arabs want it back. The american Indians want manhattan back also, are you willing to give up your home also to them and go back to where your family originated?
Mountainbike , True Christians stand with Israel, I do agree they need to stop their expansion though.
Of course palestinians want Israel. The Jewish state has built a thriving country from barren land.
Great philosophy MountainBike! I am sure you also approve of Police officers being killed because they shot criminals too, right? When was the last time you have heard that Israel blow a bus with women and kids in Spain, or any other country in the world like extremist islamics do? They are just defending themselves from assassin dogs that have publicly declared they want to destroy Israel and have killed thousands of Israelies in bomb attacks in Israel. But there is hope! Muslims in Belgium have started a movement to ban dogs from public places because dogs are unclean animals and their view offends them. I really hope they are successful, because then they will ban themselves also from public view!
"They can't steal what is theirs."
True,so they steal Palestinian land instead.
mountainbike8265,
I have no lashing for you, just my pity at your ignorance, and those who agree with you. Islam started terrorism, and until recently, Isreal and the West haven't really partaken of it. Iran trained suicide bombers and created Hamas and Hezbollah, which invaded Israel and regularly fires rockets at Isreali citizens, regardless of where they live. Iran has been stating for decades they will not stop until every Jew is dead.
You and those who agree with you have my pity because you have so clearly forgotten the lessons of not 60 years ago. Millions went to war to stop a lunatic with the same goals. The only difference was that Hitler initiated war first, then sought atomic power. Iran has clearly learned from Hitler's teaching and decided to get the bomb first, then go to war. With their ideology in hand, and the brainwashing that, even if they die, they will still succeed in their goals and be rewarded, mutual anihalation is assured. They will not hesitate to unleash the power, while non-Muslim countries at least have had an ounce of sanity to know that this couldn't end well, and cared enough despite their own egos to maintain enough sanity on both sides to not trigger a cataclysmic event. Israel and the West can see Iran for exactly what it is: The next Nazi Germany, now with atomic bombs!
If Iran behaved the least bit logically, you might have a point. But they have clearly stated without hesitation or doubt they have one goal and one goal only: Make everyone a believer, or destroy everyone. And in the case of Isreal and the US, only the later is an option. So, keep cheering for the side whose goal it is to kill you. You will definately get your wish.
yep, the nazi-loving, al-queada-loving, sharia-law loving jew-haters are out in force today
scream all you want, but that's all you really are.
truth hurts , doesn't it?
you love Iran so much? , then get the eff out of my country and go live in Iran
Every human life is made in G_d's image, an EXACT representation of G_D.
Every time, EVERY time you snuff the life out of G_d's body (because man is made by G_d), your attack is not on the MAN but upon G_D!!!
THIS IS WHY G_D's LAW STATES "THOU SHALL NOT KILL." The "legalists" or "lawyers" defy G_d every time they try to twist G_d's law it so that they can kill without breaking the law... but it is NOT SO.
So yeah, go ahead!!! Kill everyone, Children of Abraham. KILL EVERYONE. Show the world how much you hate your G_d.
boogablue, peace be upon Muhammad, correct me if I'm wrong ,but wasn't he a warrior who had a hand in killing people, as for Jesus I don't believe he killed anyone
Neither of these countries can be trusted not to stab each other in the back. As a matter of fact you can trust them to stab each other in the back at every turn and as often as they can.
Every attack becomes fuel for the fire. As that fire burns it destroys lives and civilizations. You cannot put out fire with fire. Fire only makes fire grow. Evil begets evil. Only with water can you put out fire. Only with peace can you end war.
In all of these things remember: we are not creatures of logic and reason, we are creatures of pride and ego.
Only by mastering and overcoming our emotional pride and ego, and devoting our minds and thoughts to logic and reason will we as a race depart from the ways of war and atrocity.
The Jews were responsible for Jesus' crucifixtion. The Romans were the ones who carried out the sentence.
It's interesting how the Bible sheds a lot of light on the subject of people's ignorance. People can try to rewrite history all they want, but the truth will go unaltered. The Jews were responsible for the killing of Jesus.
Isreal is far from a country of cry-babies. It's war so I can't condemn Iran too much, they are just the enemy so it is what is expected. You'll see though, Isreal and the US are going to kick the sh$t out of Iran.
seig heil mountainbike and olias.
you love the islamist agenda so much? go live there
you are spewing the exact same "jews taking over the world" , and "jews are the source of all evil" that the nazis that you love so much did before you
truth hurts, doesn't it?
and no, I don't support all the things that Israel does, any more than I support all of the short-sighted things that we do.
but all the Israel haters clearly and truly have repeatedly shown that they want the jews wiped out by the words the jew-haters use. they aren't interested in peace, they want extermination of the jews, again
seig heil jew-haters
MountainBike. As much as I agree with you on some of what you've said, please refrain from using the word Jew. Our enemies are not the Jews, but the Neo-Nazi equivalent of Judaism known as Zionism. Ovadia Yosef is a prime example, as he has publicly stated that all non-Jews should be either wiped out or enslaved. And as for the rest of you delusional nutballs, saying "Go Isreal" isn't exactly helping. Its one thing to want your own country, its another to take another person's country from them. That'd be like if Iran decided to reclaim its Aryan heritage and invaded the soverign states neighboring it. Just because a group of people you're related to were wrong does not make it okay for you to wrong others. I'm neither Muslim, Jewish, or Christian and I know this. Why? Because its common sense. Not religous or cultural hullabaloo. Also, why the heck should the US government support a country (politically and financially) that instigates conflicts across the middle east then expects US (grammatical pun intended) to step in and waste money on an inefficient means of solving said [avoidable] conflicts. Diplomacy is the cheapest measure by far. A True Conservative would know that.
I'm not against Jews in general. I have friends that are Jews but they are peaceful Jews. I'm against the trouble makers that think it's OK to murder someone to steal there land. I believe in god but i don't believe in portions of what the bible has written. Organized religion I'm not. They are stealing land that belongs to the Palestinians.
I guess when you target other foreigners yourself you must pay the price- quid pro quo- their actions make more enemies for themselves- Now India is buying Iran's oil and they have nukes- the thinning of allies is very dangerous
I'm guessing yet more Mossad false-flag ops...
The Golden Rule, Israeli style: Do unto yourself and blame the other.
My first thoughts....False flags gain sympathy. I have none for these killers.
There will continue to be violence in the world because governments continue to use it as a solution.
"If governments continue to set the example of killing their enemies...Then occasionally private individuals will kill theirs." Elbert Hubbard
Simply put Hairfarmer. That shouldn't be hard to understand.
of course, blame the Jews, again
it worked for Adolph
Hey! Dont forget to include George Bush as well, when it comes to blaming Someone, ANYONE for the problems throughout islam.
George Bush and the Jews... the root of all that cripples Islam!
LOL!
Isreal has nothing to say. Once again, it is unfortunate that inncent people, who have nothing to do with political nitwits, are the victims of murder. The Iranians who run that government stole free elections and seized power with no plan to ever give it back. They are anit west, anti Isreal, and they are building a bomb. What right does Isreal have to kill their scientists or pay Iranian rebels to kill the sceintists. If they want to go after that nit wit Akmed or the Rebuplican Guard leadership, fine. But the scientists? So, now the Iranians are killing dipolmats wives and staff drivers, instead of going after Nehenyahoooooie or whatever his name is. Now you have ignited a war of terroism on top of all the other stuff going on. I can not feel sorry for Isreal, just sorry for the innocent people hurt or killed.
Bill If someone calls you an @!$hole believe it !!!
C'mon everybody, let's all sing and forget all our troubles away! We didn't start the fire......
Do unto others! They should expect this, in light of their practices and policies. It is surprising it does not happen more often!
Retired
I'd be surprised if Israel was surprised at this. So what's your point? Not enough people killed?
Should Israel have rolled the tanks and planes out, gotten a few thousand people killed on both sides (none of whom would have been the scientists or slowed the nuke program) in a true manly fashion?
If they're going to fight, I like this way better. Selected targets.
We reap what we sow... In 1948 the British had a Terrorism problem in Palestine.. The Terrorists? Jews demanding their own state..
The British had a terrorism problem in this country in 1776 as well. The terrorists were Americans demanding their own state. Perhaps the better point you should have made was that in 1948, the Jewish people took their terrorist acts to England and starting blowing things up in London. Only then did the British give them their state. Whereas, the Americans did not do that. Consequently it proved to the arab world that terrorism works. The British caved in both instances. But, terrorism has existed since the dawn of man. Often ill-defined.
The Brits didn't give them a state remember a guy named Harry S Truman?
Guess what ,they are there ,they are not going anywhere , get use to it
"He who lives by the sword dies by the sword" Israel's arrogant policy of wandering around the world assassinating those they deem a threat to their interests is bound to produce an equal and opposing response. They deserve what they get.
Fedup
So, I guess when the US of A uses a drone to kill a terrorist.....we do it humbly, so its OK?
I dont agree with Israeli policies. I think they are a selfish nation who has slapped the US in the face over and over. However, a country that says they want to wipe you off the map, and is purusing nukes in the face of the world. Saying its for peacful but wont let inspectors to the new areas to prove it. Then those working on that program to produce a bomb that can destroy your country and what would generally be considered an enemy. Assasination is a game all countries play. It seems when the Israelis do it they take out the target and not others. Even the US with drones will accidentally take out a civilian But spends millions on technology to only kill the sepcific enemy. The Bin Laden deal could have safely ended with some cruise missles and sucks for the innocents killed while taking him out.
The Iranians or whoever was responsible are not going after a specific enemy combatant. They did not attack an Israeli military target. They went after diplomats picking children up from school and didn't worry about the civilians of that foreign country the attacks happened in at all. Its a game everyone plays. It just shows the type of player you are when civilian casualties in countries outside of the 2 at each others throats dont matter one bit
I haven't ever read that that Israel is going to wipe Iran off the face of this planet, but this the common theme followed by the rabid Mullahs ruling Iran. Israelis are doing what they should do to survive and they understand better than anyone else. Indians need to know who their real friends.
I see all the Racist jew haters are posting this morning, Not one of you have the intel or knowledge that the Israelis have been responsible for any bombing, These people are allies to the US and you spew hate towards them, I hope the people in the bombing were not to seriously hurt and make a full recovery.
The Israeli's were given their own state w/the help of the world and yet they deny others- this is part of the ongoing chaos- yet neither the US or the Israeli's will admit it - they want their cake and to eat it too- I was close to the fire in the Mil.- Obama was origanlly in favor of the state now he's not- another sell out- A bully is a bully no matter what face he wears
Jew is a religious affliation. It is neither a race nor ethnicity.
Get it right, fool.
What do you expect. The world does see how Israel treats non Jews. You ever wonder why there is so much bitterness towards you. You have this belief that you are always in the right and everybody else is in the wrong. Stop crying and fess up to your sins and hatred towards the non Jews that are not part of the Jewish Master Plan.
I see you can only still post one liners DAK, What did you do in all those formative years? What are you going to do when your aging mother passes, you know you will not survive outside of the basement?
Free lunch they were given their land by the UN and have had to fight to keep it, Nobody said it came with a bunch of Arab Goat herd squatters?
Spoken like the true Zionist terrorist that you are. You probably have dual citizenship, Right.
@Mounatinbike Are you talking about Chunk? Cause he's a Jew.
Mountain I am not jewish or am I Christian, I am a concerned American Citizen that cares about our friends and Allies, Unlike you haters on here, Long live the United States and all of our Allies, May we all prosper and stay strong.
Fell free to immigrate to Israel...make sure you are jewish though because otherwise you will have few rights once you get there...even christians find it hard to coexist with jews in Israel...I wonder why
Spoken like a true life-member of AIPAC.
Just ask Jonathan Pollard what kind of 'friends' the Israelis are...
"Jewish Master Plan"? What, to make bagels the international breakfast of champions?
Using the race card I see. ..Jew is judaism and judaism is a religion and religions normally suck. Hebrew is the chosen one and I don't hear anybody acting racist towards the hebrew.
That was cute DAK, Mom must of brought you down a few heated pop tarts for you to get that excited, Especially to write that much and cut and paste too.
US citizen. We don't know all of the facts one way or another because there's lies and accusations on all sides.However,what goes around comes around.It's not a matter of hating jews it's just that they are not squeaky clean as they profess to be.Like one post said,they were given a state and now they want the whole territory.So keep it real ,they have their faults too.
US citizen,
I am not taking any sides, but did you not see the article last week where Israel assassinated the Iranian scientist in Tehran? I mean, if they are going to kill civilians inside Iran, how are their diplomats not legitimate targets?
You do know there is no evidence that Iran had anything to do with the action, don't you? The article said Israel believes Iran was behind the assasination attempt. There are plenty of groups who have a gripe with Israel.
The people who lost their loved ones when the WTC towers were leveled to the ground in a controlled demolition, with explosives set prior to the buildings being hit, have the biggest gripe.
Bldg 7 was not even hit by an airplane and it fell exactly like the first 2, straight down into it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds. The newscasters were notified Bldg 7 was going to fall, shortly before the actual fall. How could anyone predict it would fall, when no one was in the building and the fires were relatively small? It defies all science and common sense.
My point is would these people feel the same if they worked for the British Embassy? How about the French or Maybe the Australian or is it that they are juden?
Ralph
Your tin hat is sliding off your head, Reception is coming clearer, I can see you now with my satellite... you know too much, I have you now....
I know you must believe me because I wrote it on the net ...
But the British, French and Australians have not been assassinating civilians inside Iran. That has nothing to do with antisemitism, Israel and Iran are in the middle of a proxy war with each other.
Killing the scientists is low. Way below the belt. They were inside their own country and were killed at home, on their commute, or out with their families. No matter what country did that, that is low.
Love U.S. Cititzens rationale - if you don't agree with Israeli policy you are Anti-Semitic... so if one disagrees with a particular U.S. policy, we are what? Anti-Christian... love how uneducated ones love to throw out that tag-line every time one disagrees with them. lol
I am sick and tired of christians and jews fear mongering the US that the bible tells us to protect Israel... BULL PUCKY!
The Israeli's are no different than the arabs. They cannot live in peace, nor will they ever. The only thing that seperates the jews from the arabs is their religion. I am sick of my tax paying dollars supporting the terroristic state of israel.
WEthepeeps , so either quit paying taxes or move you have choices
Just use the "Z" word its like saying the "C" word to a woman
@WLee - Quit being a damn terrorist. Sorry, our money shouldn't be supporting foreign jihads, nor should we be picking sides. Tell you what, why don't you go to the desert and support the jews from over there.... Leave my tax money to help American citizens.
@US Citizen
I see that your religeous identity supersedes your present nationality. As I understand it Jew is not a race and this might be central to the problem. I don't hate Jews I just don't trust them or their objectives. But they have learned well from other entities that "the ends justify the means" but somehow failed to encompass democracy and love of fellow man on their way to heaven or where ever they go. As an American I am tired of revisionsit history, meddling in our banking systems, control the editing of new information, and Israels expansionist policies threatening stability in the region.
Wethepeeps, so I guess you don't like the choices, then I suggest you quit complaining. Since you missed it we give money to Egypt, Pakistan, Palestinians as well as quite a few other countries not just Israel.
@WLee - in case you missed it, let me copy and paste for you -
"Leave my tax money to help American citizens."
You think I don't know we are funding other countries? I wasn't born yesterday, nor do I hide my head under a misspelled sign or a bible. I'm quite clear on where I would like my tax money to go.
Mr. Mike--
"I don't hate Jews I just don't trust them or their objectives...but somehow failed to encompass democracy or love of fellow man on their way to heaven or whereever they go...meddling in our banking systems, control the editing of new information"??!?!
Now I know that people get a little touchy about anti-Israeli sentiments being construed as anti-Semitism, but Mike, that there is some classic anti-Semitism!
Controlling the banks, controlling the media, heaven or whereever they go???Dude, you are an anti-Semite...Where is the "some of my best friends are Jews" line? Sheesh!
Wethepeeps since you know our tax dollars are going to other countries what good is it doing you complaining about it, that's why I gave you two choices.
US Citizen-701707,tell the 34 dead sailors and their famalies and the 174 wounded ones that was on the USS Liberty when the Israel tried to sink it that they are our allies.
maybe you should tell DOD that the Jews that spied on and stole the secret from us are our allies.
mountainbike8265, please mind rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
Totally awesome, man... totally awesome...
Ever wonder why US news agencies were breaking the news about Israel's plans to attack and destroy Iran's nuke processing sites?
so we can make sure there is turmoil in the middle east which will drive up oil prices giving exxon another record quarter of profits? Every oil producing nation and every oil company would be jumping for joy if Israel started another war in the region, in fact they probably pay the Israeli government to keep tensions high so prices will remain high.
Sorry Doug, you're wrong. While the oil companies like a bit of a rise in prices they know that if speculation gets too much out of control it backfires. Also, if war does breakout it disrupts production - meaning they lose money. As with every industry (except for the arms industry) a stable environment is preferred.
Hey guys nobody needs to be nasty lets live in peace all of us.
Damn hippies...With their peace and love...Sick I tells ya!
;)
Hairfarmer , looks pretty good with my rose colored glasses. How's things going?
Going just fine my friend...Just absorbing some of the love on these vines...LOL
I think I should get some of those glasses too...The view sounds better... ;)
Is it that most of you commentators don't read the article before you post comments or that you don't understand what you read? Nowhere in this article does it say that anyone was killed, so saying that they were killed (while it may be true) is an unfounded statement. And nowhere in this article or any other I've read have I heard any Israeli official whine, complain, cry foul or anything of the sort. Israel has known they're at war since the beginning. It will continue until those who wish to destroy Israel and the Jews are defeated. This is just another day at the office.
rotflmfao
It's a little hypocritical for Israel to complain about Iran assassinating Israeli diplomats while Israel is behind the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists. And it was reported recently that the group who carried out the assassinations for Israel was on the official US lists of terrorists, making Israel a state sponsor or terrorism, as is Iran.
Great observation! I was thinking about the explosion and the explosive used that also destroyed the vehicle following the target vehicle. How come nobody was killed? I'm glad that there was no loss of life, but I wonder how anyone could survive such a powerful explosion, if indeed it was as powerful as described. This line of thinking opens the door to many questions, including who really did the dirty deed and why. Any suggestions?
"Nothing has more strength than dire necessity"--Euripides 5th cent BCE.
Actions, that can avoid the devastation of outright war, and that keep the mad Iranian leadership from getting nuclear weapons are necessary. I wish Israel and the world success in this endeavor.
Thankfully, the difference with the attacks against these workers at the Israeli embassies is their lack of success.
Well, that bunch of ragheads just keep causing trouble, no one can get it accross to them. The jewish group comes up with inventions, they educate their people and try to make the world a better place, yet the jealous ignorant rag heads keep blowing up people, cars, and building. The have suicide bombers and they teach them this. How do they ever expect to have anything?
1. Iranians aren't Arab, they are Persian. Maybe you can come up with a different bigoted term for them since they aren't arabs...maybe...RUG heads...you know...cuz they make great rugs.
2. Tell the ragheads in Qatar - a country where the average wealth...AVERAGE of all citizens is 17 million dollars.
3. Or United Arab Emirates, where Abu Dhabi is the richest city in THE WORLD.
yeah...they have nothing...LOL.
oh...I forgot you know only what Fox news, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, KKK, tells you about Arabs.
uthinkuno,
Please tell Obama too, since it seems he can't wait to start a war with Iran.
Make the world a better place?? ROFLMAO! You are so uneducated it blows the mind.. Go back to school young naive one.
uthinkuno, don't forget how much they love each other as the Arab spring shows us, Egypt, Syria, Libya,Tunisia, Yemen, Bahrain, Lebanon, Iran
Bob-1864521, don't use racist terms, please. You are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.
Israel will never fall, and they will never stop. They don't complain when things like this happen, they just get even! and this is how it should be...Israel is doing exactly what they need to be doing.
Yeah I kinda think that what Israel should be doing is trying to make peace with it's neighbors. Maybe they should take a look at the Arab Peace Initiative, which would bring Israel peace and normal relations with all Arab countries. I wonder why they would have never accepted or even commented on this proposal. Maybe because all they want it to further their 21st century colonialism and create Eretz Israel at the expense of ot only the Arabs, but all of the world
and when they play with fire, they should expect to be burned in return when they do despicable acts.... kudos to the Iranians for seeking revenge.
Dan, so who should the Green rebellion look to have revenge on. Stewgott, Israel has peace with Egypt, Turkey and Jordan, and I'm sure with an unwritten one with Saudi Arabia
You attack someone you should expect to be attacked in return.. For Israel to sit there and go "oh woe me" is a farce... That's like attacking another country and then acting surprised when they attack back...
They've (Israel) have always provoked in the middle east (the creation of the nation on Arab landwas their first provocation).
the israeli goverment derserve it! they killed the iranian scientist. what do you expect!
this is called blowback
To all you Jew haters JESUS CHRIST WAS A JEW ! do you hate him also?
Jesus wasn't a Jew you mouran. LOL
And the JEWS aren't gods chosen people either. Your to funney
Mary
Jesus wasn't a Jew? Uh, maybe you need to study up a bit more.
jaime, Iranian dissidents killed the scientist. Sorry Mary Jesus was a Jew with Jewish followers, whats a mouran?
Jesus, like all the other mythical deity stories are just that, myths and stories. Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
actually, the muslims and Iran have the highest regards for Jesus Christ.
In fact legend has it that after he was crucified, there were several sightings by muslims that saw him walking through their territory and felt blessed.
Because they were sure to have seen his spirit / resurrection, the story is part of their teachings.
in regards to the war between iran and israel, it has never been physical. it has only been a war of words.
if iran is building weapons of mass destruction, how do we know this to be true? look at those weapons of mass destruction we didn't find in iraq, but created a lot of proof about their existence and provided to the u.n.
And Mary, please learn to spell.
Wethepeeps or the IRS
Anyone who can not see that Iran is a rogue nation, which sponsors terrorist fronts,and treats it's people poorly, along with threatining the security of Israel and the Middle East,........is niave at best. Israel is fighting to maintain a stable well run productive state. Suffice to say Israel 167 nobel prizes Iran 1(which the Iranian goverment confiscated) The world is clearly safer and more sane, with Iran, not a nuclear threat. Alas, the outcome will not be decided on this vine, rather it will be by the IDF, and some very well placed bombs!
Shopperben - Jesus couldn't have been seen by the Muslims immediately after his death because Muslims didn't exist until centuries later.
TIMMMYYYEEE!!!!
all you cry babies just wait till they set a nucke off and it wipes one of our cities out then i want to see who crys the loudest. they are only doiing it to stay alive because they are under constant fire from these cowards.
i bet if i told you over and over and lobbed a brick through your window a few times then you would be wanting to come and get me even if you have no proof. i am not for war but i know if theycan kill us they want to and will, no matter how.