Please stay on topic when you make comments. This is about a scholarly discovery concerning an early Malcolm X speech. Doesn't have anything to do with the upcoming election, no matter what one's party affiliation is.
Curious Bob actually there is a link to Obama as the very good friend of Rev Jeremiah Wright the Rev Farrhakan is the chief suspect in the Malcolm X murder,I believe I read in the past that the Malcolm X family is adamant the Rev Farrakhan had their father murdered. I have often wondered if Barack Obama and Rev Farrakhan have ever crossed paths? Wow wouldn't that be a blockbuster photo.
Sometimes I feel like a school teacher Ismail Adib?........ ''Farrakhan was outraged. He called Malcolm X a traitor and wrote, two months before the killing, that"such a man is worthy of death."
Three men with ties to the Nation of Islam were convicted in the slaying in the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem on Feb. 21, 1965.''cbs.com...... Oh no he was never a suspect? Wow of course he was and is!
You must mean the kind of teacher who embellishes the truth, for his own gain! Every member of the Nation of Islam was outraged!!! Many ministers within the group were at odds with Malcolm after his split with the group; they considered it the highest betrayal (almost blasphemy). J. Edgar Hoover said much-much worse things about Medgar Evers, Pres. John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, and Dr. King. And guess what??? After he said those things and took illegal actions against all of these men, they were all publicly assassinated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is Hoover your suspect?
You also fail to mention he is the worst president since Jimmy Carter, blah, blah, blah...
The same Carter, the only President who taught Sunday School while serving as POTUS compared to the "great" Roland Raygun who had his wife do Occult Science.
I do find it interesting that Malcolm X was against one of the major pillars of the civil rights movement integration. Too bad the chief suspect in the Malcolm X murder Rev Jeremiah wright's Associate the so called Rev Farrakhan the famed bigot and racist is still free spreading his hateful rhetoric.
Make up crap much??! If you had bothered to even just freaking Google, you would know that Malcolm X was killed by the Nation of Islam. When he returned from making his pilgrimmage to Mecca he disavowed the seperatist and hatefilled rhetoric of the Nation of Islam. That couldn't be allowed. He was in fact shot and killed by Talmadge Hayer (also known as Thomas Hagan).
I see some people still play loose with the facts....
1) Farrakhan was never a suspect "at all" 2) With all the hate-filled rhetoric of J. Edgar Hoover & his FBI, if their was anything they could have used against any high-ranking muslim in NOI they would have buried Farrakhan with it. It is beyond belief that those who constantly and wrongly call Farrakhan a bigot, don't say such things about Hoover, Sen. Mc Carthy, Sen. Strom Thurmond, and many of the founding father's!!! Newt Gingrich and the current field of Republican candidates have said worse things about Blacks in the last 5 years, than Min. Farrakhan has in 40 years. And the difference is.... Farrakhan can't alter the lives of Whites through racist policies.
Ismail, I would bet that you are a black american who changed his name to become one of the "Nation Of Islam's minnions. In fact Differnet. that is the name of Farrakhan's organization.. so both you and Life/liberty are correct. And no doubt since Malcom X, of course not his original name, was not accepting the prison brain wash of Blacks that Islam is the answer against White "ownership", is why he was assasinated.. no doubt. Malcolm had an educated following instead of the Sheeple following the nation of islam maintains and yes.. Farrakhan purports the worst racist mentality on the market.. to the point that if you attempt to purchase the Final Call, their newspaper, from the bow tied street corner sales men--- if you dont meet the reqirements , they will refuse to sell the paper to you.. i used to have my paper boys purchase it for me so just to read the filth they purport... it is a shame that a message that Malcolm began to fight against is now going to be associated further wth his name.... and yes ... their is major connections between OBammy and Farrakhan.." Farrakhan points out that the man Nation of Islam followers refer to as “the Saviour,” Fard Muhammad, had a black father and a white mother, just as Obama did.."..to see full text go to..http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/77539/.. I cant speak about older politicians in the past who spoke from stupidity or concerns of their own that i didnt agree or do agree with. but Newt never called any one of color the devil, Fkan continually refers to white america as the enemy in very retoric verbage... if you are a believer in the Nation of Islam.. you are aligned with a very bad group of people.. including Mr. Jermaine Jackson... amazes me the POPular culture that agrees with every dumbass out there..
You state "allegations" as if they are fact. I "allege" that you are an idiot and a hate monger.
I believe that Farrakhan had/has serious issues. I also believe that if there had been any evidence of his involvement, he would have been prosecuted for it. Especially when you consider the climate of the sixties, where African Americans were guilty until proven innocent, J Edgar Cross Dresser (allegation) would have been all over it.
So Obama had a white mother and black father and that implicates him in some kind of conspiracy? What in the world? Ohio Land 4 U please tell us how one relates to another? This is a major connection to what?? When was the last time you heard Louis Farahkhan say anyting? Recently, to let you know, he called Obama an assasin. I'm confused to exactly what you are trying to say.
''During the 2008 presidential campaign, Wright himself noted the trip could cause problems for Obama.
“When [Obama's] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit [Gadhafi] with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”wnd.com So yes OBAMA and FARRAKHAN are linked!
No wonder why people consider the hard rights total loons. You create facts where history and documents prove you incorrect. Look up the transcripts of Talmadge Hayer's trial.
Well there is some very damning circumstantial evidence against Rev Wright"s partner Farrakhan according to CBS news ''
''Farrakhan was outraged. He called Malcolm X a traitor and wrote, two months before the killing, that"such a man is worthy of death."
Three men with ties to the Nation of Islam were convicted in the slaying in the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem on Feb. 21, 1965.''cbs.com...... To say such a man is worthy of death and then poof he is murdered by The Nation Of Islam!
LiFe, Obama is linked to what? You are saying that a visit to Libya by Wright and Farrahkhan links Obama to something? Do you not realize Obama was involved in the overthrow of Gadhafi and Gadhafi was killed because he refused to step down? Who gives one crap about 1984? You sir are disillusioned and have nothing purposeful to contribute to this conversation. Go crawl back under the rock you came from.
Life,thank you for clarifying one of the GOP lies. That is Main Stream Media is all liberal. If CBS was liberal, they would not have put that on the news. Got anymore misinformation to spew?
why because you say SallyAnn-4595694.....SallyAnn-4595694? Why don't you post a rebuttal to the CBS report?Will you vouch for Farrakhans innocence? Or as I suspect you really don't have any information on the matter?
Considering the powers that were in control in the 60's we will probably never know who killed him or MLK or Robert Kennedy or of course President Kennedy. During that time many people were calling for the demise of the President, namely the John Birch Society........doesn't mean they did it but we will never know. History is written by the survivors.....
LiFe, you will find that history changes often. Papers are found, undiscovered recordings, manuscripts, notes, and much more. We have discovered a tremendous amount of history regarding many prominent persons from way past and even today new discoveries surprise us. A history person does not take sides or judge, rather they take what is known and available and digest for the better of mankind. You can take sides and have an opinion, but you cannot deny history. Show your proof as to a link to President Obama and let us all know what history you have to share. We will rewrite history as it is discovered, but not by untenable claims.
''proof as to a link to President Obama''Maddog-1194107 ? did you read my post? I never said a direct link to Obama? His minister of 20 years Rev Wright as I recall is an associate of Farrakhan. Why so defensive?
LiFe,you said "Curious Bob actually there is a link to Obama" and I am wondering what link you are talking about. Now you want to mince words and deny direct link, but only a link? So what about Rev Wright? What link do you think you can prove?
we don't need a statue of ethier one of them , Mr X was a islam nut who got killed by his own tribe , and King was a woremaster who liked them white ( the FBI has the tapes to prove it. sorry
Maddog-1194107 why is this so hard to understand? The link to Obama and there is nothing sinister,Is Rev Jeremiah Wright. Now really what else do you want to hear? google Jeremiah Wright and Rev Farrakhan I am not doing your research.
LiFe, you need to go back to school and learn research and how to substantiate the truth. Just because the President knows the Rev Wright that is a link? Link to what? You are way out of line and have nothing to back up your comments and certainly no proof of anything you say. Do you believe Wikipedia and everything you read on the internet is "proof". Get a grip.
People Like MIKE CAVAR Are What's Wrong With This Country, They Are The Ones That Spread Hate And Are Racists. Martin and Malcolm Are American Heros That Gave Their Lives For Their Beliefs. So I Guess That George Washington And The Other "FOUNDING FATHERS" Deserve Their Monuments And Statues And People Like Martin And Malcolm Don't????? And Before You Start Talking About Martin Being a "WHOREMASTER" That Liked Them "WHITE" What About Big "G" And The Good Ol' Boys Being "SLAVEOWNERS" That RAPED The Females Whenever They Wanted, But You Can See Their Faces On Mt. Rushmore And Monuments And Statues Of Them Are All Through Out America. It's A Shame On This Country That We Breed People That Hate Other People Just By The Color Of Their Skin Or Their Beliefs!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fryed59, do you seriously believe only Americans are racist? Only white americans? I have heard racism come out of the mouth of people of all races, ethnicities and nationalities. This kind of nonsense is a shame everywhere and as far as MLK being a womanizer well so is Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Arnold Schwarzeneggar and countless other so-called heroes. Everyone has done something. I don't believe it should disqualify MLK for a statue or respect given in historical referrences. I don't know as much about MalcolmX so I can't comment on him but this bickering about who killed him and whether or not Obama is affiliated with Farrakhan really isn't going to solve anything.
It is very good to get additional information about this brother. I have and will never believe that Minister Farrakhan had any thing to do with the murder of this brother. It is sad that we are suppose to be the most advance country in the world but can't deal with the truth of the matter when it comes to integration. What and how has it helped the majority of African Americans? Why did the baseball league only select Jackie Robinson? Why didn't they integrate the whole league? Who benefited? This integration destroyed the negro league. This is just one example. Seek the truth and the truth will set you free, mentally, morally and physically.
I had friends who played in the Negro league and they made little money and aspired to play in an integrated league. Now there are many successful players of color. I fail to see your point.
The evil, diabolical J.Edgar Hoover was able to get three Nation of Islam stooges to shoot Malcolm X in front of thirty five witnesses ( including his wife and children) and then blame it on Louis Farrakhan.
You really have a problem with facts and reality don't you?
Navy - you were doing good until you got to the part of "blaming it on Louis Farrakhan"
That's the point, as you stated, witnesses saw the killers. Was one of them (killers) Farrakhan?
I am not a Farrakhan fan by any stretch. But I also wouldn't believe Hoover. Hoover is perhaps one of the worse figures in American history considering his power and influence.
I am just saying what the prevailing attitude of the day was in that era.......I was a grown woman then and I am just recalling the events as I remember them.
Dr. King's message was a postive route to take vesus Malcolm X's. Dr. King was for intergration, not to lose one's raicial identity or history, but to move beyond it and be judged as an individual.
Who is insulted? Dr. King did earn his title. He received his doctorate in theology from Boston University in 1955, after receiving a Bachelor of Arts from Morehouse College in 1948 and a Bachelor of Divinity from Crozer Theological Seminary in 1951. This is no different than Henry Kissenger or even Dr. Rice, former Secreatry of State. Any tenured professor in the US who has a Ph.D. will call themselves Dr. Get a better handle on your facts.
Yeah, and his thesis was plagarized all the way. BU put a note about that in the MLK file years ago. High school students get penalized for non-attribution, but not MLK.
Ritdog, Bush 2 got straight Cs in college and barely made a bachelor's degree. He probably slapped around the ol' lady a time or two, got drunk on the ranch and might even had a whore or two. Al Gore doesn't fare much better and we can talk about Clinton all night. The bottom line is Dr. King was awarded a Doctorate degree, so don't be a hater. He is not perfect and I bet you got some things in your life you wish nobody digs up. Given the time, the race relations climate, and many other factors Dr. King did OK.
Wow. So you question DOCTOR King's title and you got slammed. So you change the narrative to some crap about plagiarism and prostitutes (by the way, spell check works). That is so sad.
And shadow, speak for yourself, any doctor should be proud to carry a title that the Great Dr.. King carried. Racism is sad.
It okay to change your calendar the 1960's are gone.
MADDOG and 2SENSE. I'M not questioning anything- just repeating what Boston University, the PHD granting authority for MLK, has said. Why don't you write them and tell them they are wrong about their own "degree."
Your position on this supports anybody who now wants to cheat on their thesis -- if it's good enough for MLK, why not anybody else? That would devalue all the effort a person of any color puts into their doctorate, or is it just blacks that need the accommodation? You are getting racist, boys.......
Again, I think there are a lot better people than MLK for the black community specifically, and other people of any color in general, to look up to.
The fact that he had a good PR program, and lots of advertising do not negate the fact that he plagiarized his PHD (spelling OK now, 2sense?).
No matter who caused the assasinations, two great men are dead. Malcolm X had turned from the radical Nation of Islam and Dr. King had realized that he would not see the results of his struggles.
Both men died and their tragic deaths are two more stains on a country that had spent centuries dealing with their "All men are created equal" vs. "We demand the right to hold slaves" attitudes.
Ridiculous comments regarding our President merely demonstrate the argument. Racism is alive and well and deeply rooted in this country. It veils itself as merely political, but it's there no matter what you call it. Curious Bob - you're a bigot. Would you have made that comment if our President's name was McCain? Of course not.
He received his Doctor of Philosophy on June 5, 1955, with a dissertation on "A Comparison of the Conceptions of God in the Thinking of Paul Tillich and Henry Nelson Wieman"
Anyone earning a PhD is entitled to put 'Dr.' in front of their name. You do know that universities and colleges are loaded with instructors who do it, don't you? Henry Kissinger uses the title, does he insult 'real doctors' also?
What exactly was racist about my comment? Furthermore, I made no claim as to who might have assasinated either person. If you make the claim and point the finger, show the proof. While the possibility of Farakhan's involvement exists, there is no solid evidence on which to base the assertion. James Earl Ray said for years he wasn't the only one involved in Dr. King's assasination - where's the proof>
screw the term Racist.. it means jack @!$%# to me.. how about STUPIDITY...To make any discussion towards Slavery in todays world basically tells me that Michael.. is a stupid ass.. because again.. slavery means nothing to america any more. unless you use it as a crutch to advance your position.. I will commend any Human.. which we all are.. for everything you and i and others can do to further growth for everyone.. but the moment an individual causes harm to others.. they are an @!$%#.. if they cant help someone... they are an @!$%#... bottom line help thy fellow man.. no matter what..
Ohio is it stupid to discuss the Holocaust. Or maybe its stupid to discuss your family heritage. Somehow you managed to insult Micheal's very intelligent post; by calling him a stupid ass, what then does that make you? Enlightened? Hardly.
I believe he made reference to the constitution as well, guess that's an old and stupid document, probably shouldn't be discussing that either. It's the attitude he was discussing. the same attitude that makes people like you think that anyone who doesn't think like you do, is a stupid ass.
I agree slavery is long gone. But the attitudes that allowed it to exist are alive and well, in Ohio.
Hmmm ... a Malcolm X speech that is (1) unique --- not like other speeches he gave, and (2) calls for blacks to forge their own identity separate from the rest of America. I think that not both of these things can be true.
Most of his speeches were in front of All Black, and or Muslim audiences. He rarely ventured outside that loop because, as he said "We need to deal with our own people". The speech was significant because this time the listeners were educated Whites #1. And #2 The NOI has always worked toward a separate but equal existence for American Blacks. Dr. King and Malcolm were at odds partly because of those opposing views. It is right before his trip to Mecca that he began to consider, there might be a stronger reason why intergration may produce a better Black people than separation. During his trip he had the change of heart, and announced it upon his return.
Whoa there people, ALL black men who spoke out in the sixties were demonized. That residual attitude is apparent in the tea party of today and the statements of the President being a nice enough guy but just not "ready" to be our leader. I am a senior from the south and remember when ALL black men were considered to be less intelligent and more inclined to be lazy, on welfare and likely to rape your daughters if not watched closely. What was written about Malcolm X reflected that agenda.
Kath, i do admit i didnt grow up when and where you did.. we all have differing opinions of life, liberty and ect based on our environments.. The 60's were a time in all lives that we all need to reflect on, not base all decisions of today on. There are many differing attitudes against Obama as well as any individual who may be president.. there always will be.. Let's all get past a skin difference and continue to look at the individual only... so let's look at his college records.. produce them, lets wonder why we have unelected CZARS in positions that our govt doesnt need them... and we are spending our country into a hole.... can you do this.. can i.. no.. we dont have a bank in the world that would allow us.. so why and how can we allow our govt to do this.. NOT a black man.. Our president... and I am not a tea party person but i believe in what they offer.. just like if you looked at alot of the ideals they hold.. you would agree as well..
KATHRYN.......folks like you are not past skin color. I recommend you go to a TEA Party rally and listen to the speakers, MANY of whom are black. The last two rallies I attended had keynote speakers who were black and golly (!!!) one was a WOMAN! Get out of the big media that backs the liberal socialist regime and see and think for yourself. Frankly any racist pigs that show up at any of the rallies I have attended would have been run off....
Facts are facts, Kat. X was a separatist. BHO, like socialists and Keynsians, don't understand that fascism is unsustainable. You, like most racists dwell on race.
That's good Frakwye. Just lump separatists and socialists together with Keynsians and Fascists as if they are related somehow. It doesn't matter if you don't know one from the other and could distinquish a cat from a dog. Just ramble young man ramble.
Oh goody, an article about a black guy, which of course gives the small-minded an opportunity to sneer at Obama. Of course they do that with an article about bad weather somewhere in Europe, but an article about a black guy, well that's just Obama-sneerer GOLD!
They surely don't need much, I contend it is still the old hangover attitude that it is okay to say anything you want about a black man. Of course if they respond that man is still called "uppity".......some people never change!
has nothing to do with black or white.. white momma-who let her parents raise her kid, black , no help daddy, leaves a poor HUMAN KID.. with no direction.... hmmm no wonder our country is spiraling..
Take what from him??? Blacks haven't taken anything; especially from Whites. Unless you consider they were taking the abuse dished out by Whites. Whites have done the taking: Taken Blacks from their ancestoral homelands, taken away the language of their forefathers, taken away their religion, taken away their right to self determination, freedom, justice, and equality. And I definately don't mean ALL or even most Whites were involved, but have ALL Whites in America have benefited? YES.
You don't know what the heck you are talking about. How did White's benefit?? You mean the murders of white's by Black's? The rape? The robbery's? The riot's by Black's? Playing the Race card every time a Black disagreed with a white?? How???? Just questions that you will think are Racist.
@Tarzan7, If you're white and don't benefit from white supremacy then you must be trailer trash. And please spare us your sorry argument. Millions more blacks have been murdered, raped, robbed and rioted against by whites. The klan is the oldest terrorist group in Amerikkka and have yet to answer for the atrocities they committed. I'm sure your grandad can tell you more about the good ol' days.
What?? Millions of Blacks were Murdered, Raped, Robbed by white's???? You have to be Joking. I think you read that report wrong. History tell's a different story. You can't argue with Fact. Fact is truth. And the truth shall set you free. Brother.
1. Millions of blacks died in The trans-atlantic slave trade alone! So many so, that sharks would trail the ships waiting to be fed.
2. Hundreds of thousands of blacks hung from trees during the world's greatest terrorist act, even after slavery was abolished; i.e Jim Crow.
3. Many successful Black towns were burned, looted and pillaged by people like you out of jealousy and fear; i.e Tulsa Oklahoma, Rosewood Fl and many other towns.
4. As far as rape goes, where do you think all these Mulatto (light-skinned) blacks came from? Ask your great-grandaddy about that one.
5. Lastly, I will address your obvious ignorance about the cruel, sophisticated paramilitary campaigns, starting with the Ku Klux Klan’s rampage through the southeastern states such as Colfax, La., Elaine, Arkansas, Atlanta, GA, East St. Louis and many other cities.
You sir need to read more than what you see on msnbc.
HNIC - I got beat up all the time by black kids at school or neighborhood and called "honky" or "whitey" but I never blamed it on all blacks. I blame it on racists that were black.
@Frankwye, if you went to a black school you too obviously didn't benefit from white supremacy, how sad...although unfortunate here are the facts!
Estimates for the total number of blacks imported to the New World by the slave trade range from 25 million to 50 million; of these, perhaps as many as half died at sea during the Middle Passage experience.
Lynching, the practice of killing people by extrajudicial mob action, occurred in the United States chiefly from the late 18th century through the 1960s.
The Tulsa Race Riot was a large-scale racially motivated conflict, May 31 - June 1, 1921. Aerial fire bombing of black residential neighborhoods was reported. During the 16 hours of the assault, over 800 people were admitted to local hospitals with injuries, more than 6,000 Greenwood residents were arrested and detained at three local facilities.
I went to a P.U.B.L.I.C. school. Why is it always about race with you. I don't know anyone that benefitted from white supremacy. They are all dead. Everyone I know gets ahead by going to school.
Ah, in case anyone missed it... New World not U.S.
From the beginnings of slavery in British North America around 1619, when a Dutch ship brought 20 enslaved Africans to the Virginia colony at Jamestown, nearly 240 years passed until the Thirteenth Amendment to the U. S. Constitution officially ended slavery in 1865. This means that 12 generations of blacks survived and lived in America as enslaved people-direct descendants of the nearly 500,000 enslaved Africans imported into North America by European traders.
Realistic estimates are 12-13M total to the Western Hemisphere.
I'm glad the tapes were found of malcolm x. But I want the world to know I love Farrakhan. Keep up the good work of letting blacks know the truth of who the devil really is. the white man.
Malcolm X after making the trip to Mecca and seeing people of different races coming together to worship their god realised he was wrong in advocating to keep the races seperate. He came back to America with a completly differ attitude towards the white race. Which the way I understand it is why Farakahn had such a displeasure towards Malcolm X.
Malcolm started out as another white hating bigot but after a period of time realised his error and changed his attitude.
kjw369'' Farrakhan never was displease with Malcolm X over seeing different races coming together and worshipping their God,or having a differ attiude towards the white race. What Farrakhan and the whole N.O.I hated was Malcolm X talking about the T.H.E.M. He clean Malcolm X up,educated Malcolm X,put him out front and now Malcolm X wants to belittle T.H.E.M. That's what had the whole N.O.I,not only Farrakhan, but the whole N.O.I. mad.
kjw369.... Now u say that Malcolm X started out as a white hating bigot. Sorry to tell u this,but Malcolm X never hated white people. Go back and look or read everything Malcolm X and you'll never hear or see the words hate people. The T.H.E.M never teach hate. Go back and look or read everything Farrakhan has said and you'll never hear or see the words hate white people.What the N.O.I hated and still do is the avtions of white people. Killing blacks like pigs. Our black women having no choice but to lay down and be raped. Yes raped. Raped.....So if even if a black man says he hate the white race that could never compare to the actions done to the black race.
Sorry, I do not trust anything that the open media tells me. My experience is that when they turn up with lost anything there is always something behind it. I cannot believe they did not know there was a speech hidden somewhere. These things appear when something is afoot. As far as I can think it could be our black prince of deceitfulness Barrack Obama bringing something new to hurt black people if truth be told.
Yusuf Shah set up the hit on Malcolm X. He was an equal to Louis Farrakhan not an underling.The shooter has never been charged but lives in New Jersey and has apologized to those wrongly convicted.
“Before I get involved in any thing nowadays, I have to straighten out my own position, which is clear. I am not a racist in any form whatsoever. I don’t believe in any form of racism. I don’t believe in any form of discrimination or segregation. I believe in Islam (which literaly means submission and surrender to the will of God Almighty). I am a Muslim ( one who surrenders to the will of God). It just teaches us to believe in Allah as God. (Malcolm X, just eight days before his assassination, Detriot).
“I totally reject Elijah Muhammad’s racist philosophy which he has labelled ‘Islam’ only to fool and misuse gullible people as he fooled and misused me…, (Islam) doesn’t use the colour of a man’s skin to measure him…, Islam judges a man by his intention, by his behaviour, by his deeds.” (Malcolm X, New York Times & Audubon Ballroom)
“The Qur’an compels the Muslim World to take a stand on the side of those whose human rights are being violated. No matter what the religious persuasion of the victim is.” (Malcolm X: Letter from Nigeria, 1964)
I hate the way people have used Malcolm X's twin brother in all the videos that exist where he says the exact opposite of what MX said in these "press" releases!
ivetsithaca...what are you talking about?? Thomas Hagan served 40 years in prison for the killing and got parole on his 17th try and two other men were sentenced 20 years to life. What shooter has never been charged and where in the world are you getting this info?
Hitler was brilliant too...Google some of his speeches. From one who lived during the "Malcolm X" period, he was a hate filled, racist-bigot who was murdered by his own hate-filled organization whose proclaimed "religion" spews hate all over the world.
MX was just a prophet of the coming tide of hate spewing Muslim world.
Just another victim of the 'religion of peace!"
Rest in peace? The only peace comes from the fact that we don't have to listen to this nutbag any longer...except someone finds a long lost speech!
Malcolm X was preaching against hate filled, racist-bigots such as yourself. He did not preach hate or racism, but simply believed that blacks could never acheive equality from whites. He sought to create a seperate cultural, political, and economic identity for blacks seperate from whites, and in no way preached hatred toward whites. He simply pointed out the hatered whites at the time had for blacks. The NOI is hardly representative of Islam and is merely a perverted form of Islam. After MX went to Mecca and viewed the true Islam he changed his views of the world and sought intergration and equality with whites. It was true Islamic teachings that opened his eyes to the fact that not all whites were evil and that the races could live peacefully together. From where Im sitting it seems that the tide of hatered is spewing from the so-called Christian world, not the Muslim world. Just look at the hatered and vitriol in your post!
Actually, during his lifetime, Malcolm X was a person of interest in more selective colleges and universities. He was intelligent, well-spoken, and certainly not afraid of being 'politically incorrect' at that time. As a young man, he acquired a criminal record, went to prison, educated himself, and then became someone of value to society. His murder was unfortunate.
He "acquired" a criminal record...R-E-A-L-L-Y? You say that as if he was working hard to achieve something wonderful. And it took prison to "educate" him...I thought that was the role of school...and if my history serves me right (I learned it while acquiring an education) Hitler too was 'educated' in prison, well-spoken, intelligent and totally politically incorrect!
Both these men were racist, angry at the "world" for the choices they had made and took it out in hate filled rhetoric that inflamed the world that captured the small-minded racists around them.
Poor little Malcolm and poor little Adolf...two "pees" in a pod.
What value is there in either of these two morally corrupt bigots?
When MLK and Malcolm X were alive the only choices they had was to speak up or take whatever the white power structure gave them. Much the same as women when we finally got fed up with the white, rich, male rule in this country.
The fact that you continue to compare Malcolm X to Hitler just shows your own ignorance and racism. You say he was angry at the world for "his choices." So are you arguing that his anger couldn't have possibly been a result of the daily discrimination and racism faced by blacks in America at this time? Did you ever think that not being able to eat in a restaurant or use a public restroom, to have fire hoses and dogs unleashed on you, to be beaten and jailed, or not having access to the same services, such as a quality education or health care were the reason for his hatered. It is because of small-minded bigots like yourself that men like Malcolm X were necessary
You may be right Stew but MLK had a better solution. Also, Alan Keyes, The Black Avenger, Ken Hamblin, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Allan West, etc. all have the best solutions.
Should make a good addition to the Obama Library once he moves out of the White House after one term...
Please stay on topic when you make comments. This is about a scholarly discovery concerning an early Malcolm X speech. Doesn't have anything to do with the upcoming election, no matter what one's party affiliation is.
Curious Bob actually there is a link to Obama as the very good friend of Rev Jeremiah Wright the Rev Farrhakan is the chief suspect in the Malcolm X murder,I believe I read in the past that the Malcolm X family is adamant the Rev Farrakhan had their father murdered. I have often wondered if Barack Obama and Rev Farrakhan have ever crossed paths? Wow wouldn't that be a blockbuster photo.
Way to go Curious Bob - first comment on the article and you make a pointless remark about the president.
No Gumps.
He made a comment about a pointless president.
Sometimes I feel like a school teacher Ismail Adib?........ ''Farrakhan was outraged. He called Malcolm X a traitor and wrote, two months before the killing, that"such a man is worthy of death."
Three men with ties to the Nation of Islam were convicted in the slaying in the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem on Feb. 21, 1965.''cbs.com...... Oh no he was never a suspect? Wow of course he was and is!
You must mean the kind of teacher who embellishes the truth, for his own gain! Every member of the Nation of Islam was outraged!!! Many ministers within the group were at odds with Malcolm after his split with the group; they considered it the highest betrayal (almost blasphemy). J. Edgar Hoover said much-much worse things about Medgar Evers, Pres. John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, and Dr. King. And guess what??? After he said those things and took illegal actions against all of these men, they were all publicly assassinated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is Hoover your suspect?
''Three men with ties to the Nation of Islam were convicted ''cbs.com..The muslims killed Malcolm x damn them!
wonder if it was rated X...
Why get upset nobody is saying Obama is a muslim?
You also fail to mention he is the worst president since Jimmy Carter, blah, blah, blah...
The same Carter, the only President who taught Sunday School while serving as POTUS compared to the "great" Roland Raygun who had his wife do Occult Science.
I do find it interesting that Malcolm X was against one of the major pillars of the civil rights movement integration. Too bad the chief suspect in the Malcolm X murder Rev Jeremiah wright's Associate the so called Rev Farrakhan the famed bigot and racist is still free spreading his hateful rhetoric.
Make up crap much??! If you had bothered to even just freaking Google, you would know that Malcolm X was killed by the Nation of Islam. When he returned from making his pilgrimmage to Mecca he disavowed the seperatist and hatefilled rhetoric of the Nation of Islam. That couldn't be allowed. He was in fact shot and killed by Talmadge Hayer (also known as Thomas Hagan).
differnet I caa't do your research this has been a longstanding allegation against Farrakhan I can see you are ill informed on the subject?
I see some people still play loose with the facts....
1) Farrakhan was never a suspect "at all" 2) With all the hate-filled rhetoric of J. Edgar Hoover & his FBI, if their was anything they could have used against any high-ranking muslim in NOI they would have buried Farrakhan with it. It is beyond belief that those who constantly and wrongly call Farrakhan a bigot, don't say such things about Hoover, Sen. Mc Carthy, Sen. Strom Thurmond, and many of the founding father's!!! Newt Gingrich and the current field of Republican candidates have said worse things about Blacks in the last 5 years, than Min. Farrakhan has in 40 years. And the difference is.... Farrakhan can't alter the lives of Whites through racist policies.
Ismail, I would bet that you are a black american who changed his name to become one of the "Nation Of Islam's minnions. In fact Differnet. that is the name of Farrakhan's organization.. so both you and Life/liberty are correct. And no doubt since Malcom X, of course not his original name, was not accepting the prison brain wash of Blacks that Islam is the answer against White "ownership", is why he was assasinated.. no doubt. Malcolm had an educated following instead of the Sheeple following the nation of islam maintains and yes.. Farrakhan purports the worst racist mentality on the market.. to the point that if you attempt to purchase the Final Call, their newspaper, from the bow tied street corner sales men--- if you dont meet the reqirements , they will refuse to sell the paper to you.. i used to have my paper boys purchase it for me so just to read the filth they purport... it is a shame that a message that Malcolm began to fight against is now going to be associated further wth his name.... and yes ... their is major connections between OBammy and Farrakhan.." Farrakhan points out that the man Nation of Islam followers refer to as “the Saviour,” Fard Muhammad, had a black father and a white mother, just as Obama did.."..to see full text go to..http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/77539/.. I cant speak about older politicians in the past who spoke from stupidity or concerns of their own that i didnt agree or do agree with. but Newt never called any one of color the devil, Fkan continually refers to white america as the enemy in very retoric verbage... if you are a believer in the Nation of Islam.. you are aligned with a very bad group of people.. including Mr. Jermaine Jackson... amazes me the POPular culture that agrees with every dumbass out there..
You state "allegations" as if they are fact. I "allege" that you are an idiot and a hate monger.
I believe that Farrakhan had/has serious issues. I also believe that if there had been any evidence of his involvement, he would have been prosecuted for it. Especially when you consider the climate of the sixties, where African Americans were guilty until proven innocent, J Edgar Cross Dresser (allegation) would have been all over it.
So Obama had a white mother and black father and that implicates him in some kind of conspiracy? What in the world? Ohio Land 4 U please tell us how one relates to another? This is a major connection to what?? When was the last time you heard Louis Farahkhan say anyting? Recently, to let you know, he called Obama an assasin. I'm confused to exactly what you are trying to say.
This is common knowledge. ''
''During the 2008 presidential campaign, Wright himself noted the trip could cause problems for Obama.
“When [Obama's] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit [Gadhafi] with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”wnd.com So yes OBAMA and FARRAKHAN are linked!
No wonder why people consider the hard rights total loons. You create facts where history and documents prove you incorrect. Look up the transcripts of Talmadge Hayer's trial.
Well there is some very damning circumstantial evidence against Rev Wright"s partner Farrakhan according to CBS news ''
''Farrakhan was outraged. He called Malcolm X a traitor and wrote, two months before the killing, that"such a man is worthy of death."
Three men with ties to the Nation of Islam were convicted in the slaying in the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem on Feb. 21, 1965.''cbs.com...... To say such a man is worthy of death and then poof he is murdered by The Nation Of Islam!
LiFe, Obama is linked to what? You are saying that a visit to Libya by Wright and Farrahkhan links Obama to something? Do you not realize Obama was involved in the overthrow of Gadhafi and Gadhafi was killed because he refused to step down? Who gives one crap about 1984? You sir are disillusioned and have nothing purposeful to contribute to this conversation. Go crawl back under the rock you came from.
Oh you again? ha ha ha!Maddog-1194107 now really isn't this fun?
Life,thank you for clarifying one of the GOP lies. That is Main Stream Media is all liberal. If CBS was liberal, they would not have put that on the news. Got anymore misinformation to spew?
No more LiFe, because you are worthless to comment on anymore and have not one shred of proper etiquette regarding debate.
why because you say SallyAnn-4595694.....SallyAnn-4595694? Why don't you post a rebuttal to the CBS report?Will you vouch for Farrakhans innocence? Or as I suspect you really don't have any information on the matter?
Considering the powers that were in control in the 60's we will probably never know who killed him or MLK or Robert Kennedy or of course President Kennedy. During that time many people were calling for the demise of the President, namely the John Birch Society........doesn't mean they did it but we will never know. History is written by the survivors.....
I believe that if Malcolm X had lived, there would now be a statue of him not MLK Jr.
I'm curious on what you base your belief. America's affection for Islam?
LiFe&LiBeRtY, I am a defender of sentence structure and punctuation. You need to take a night class.
takenaka get a life grow up this isn't elementry school the adults are talking,you would never be able to correct me I have read your posts!
LiFe, you will find that history changes often. Papers are found, undiscovered recordings, manuscripts, notes, and much more. We have discovered a tremendous amount of history regarding many prominent persons from way past and even today new discoveries surprise us. A history person does not take sides or judge, rather they take what is known and available and digest for the better of mankind. You can take sides and have an opinion, but you cannot deny history. Show your proof as to a link to President Obama and let us all know what history you have to share. We will rewrite history as it is discovered, but not by untenable claims.
''proof as to a link to President Obama''Maddog-1194107 ? did you read my post? I never said a direct link to Obama? His minister of 20 years Rev Wright as I recall is an associate of Farrakhan. Why so defensive?
LiFe,you said "Curious Bob actually there is a link to Obama" and I am wondering what link you are talking about. Now you want to mince words and deny direct link, but only a link? So what about Rev Wright? What link do you think you can prove?
we don't need a statue of ethier one of them , Mr X was a islam nut who got killed by his own tribe , and King was a woremaster who liked them white ( the FBI has the tapes to prove it. sorry
Maddog-1194107 why is this so hard to understand? The link to Obama and there is nothing sinister,Is Rev Jeremiah Wright. Now really what else do you want to hear? google Jeremiah Wright and Rev Farrakhan I am not doing your research.
LiFe, you need to go back to school and learn research and how to substantiate the truth. Just because the President knows the Rev Wright that is a link? Link to what? You are way out of line and have nothing to back up your comments and certainly no proof of anything you say. Do you believe Wikipedia and everything you read on the internet is "proof". Get a grip.
People Like MIKE CAVAR Are What's Wrong With This Country, They Are The Ones That Spread Hate And Are Racists. Martin and Malcolm Are American Heros That Gave Their Lives For Their Beliefs. So I Guess That George Washington And The Other "FOUNDING FATHERS" Deserve Their Monuments And Statues And People Like Martin And Malcolm Don't????? And Before You Start Talking About Martin Being a "WHOREMASTER" That Liked Them "WHITE" What About Big "G" And The Good Ol' Boys Being "SLAVEOWNERS" That RAPED The Females Whenever They Wanted, But You Can See Their Faces On Mt. Rushmore And Monuments And Statues Of Them Are All Through Out America. It's A Shame On This Country That We Breed People That Hate Other People Just By The Color Of Their Skin Or Their Beliefs!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fryed59, do you seriously believe only Americans are racist? Only white americans? I have heard racism come out of the mouth of people of all races, ethnicities and nationalities. This kind of nonsense is a shame everywhere and as far as MLK being a womanizer well so is Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Arnold Schwarzeneggar and countless other so-called heroes. Everyone has done something. I don't believe it should disqualify MLK for a statue or respect given in historical referrences. I don't know as much about MalcolmX so I can't comment on him but this bickering about who killed him and whether or not Obama is affiliated with Farrakhan really isn't going to solve anything.
It is very good to get additional information about this brother. I have and will never believe that Minister Farrakhan had any thing to do with the murder of this brother. It is sad that we are suppose to be the most advance country in the world but can't deal with the truth of the matter when it comes to integration. What and how has it helped the majority of African Americans? Why did the baseball league only select Jackie Robinson? Why didn't they integrate the whole league? Who benefited? This integration destroyed the negro league. This is just one example. Seek the truth and the truth will set you free, mentally, morally and physically.
I had friends who played in the Negro league and they made little money and aspired to play in an integrated league. Now there are many successful players of color. I fail to see your point.
It was convenient for the authorities to blame it on Farrakhan.....turn black against black.......what could be better for J.Edgar Hoover.
Yeah Kathryn,
The evil, diabolical J.Edgar Hoover was able to get three Nation of Islam stooges to shoot Malcolm X in front of thirty five witnesses ( including his wife and children) and then blame it on Louis Farrakhan.
You really have a problem with facts and reality don't you?
Navy - you were doing good until you got to the part of "blaming it on Louis Farrakhan"
That's the point, as you stated, witnesses saw the killers. Was one of them (killers) Farrakhan?
I am not a Farrakhan fan by any stretch. But I also wouldn't believe Hoover. Hoover is perhaps one of the worse figures in American history considering his power and influence.
I am just saying what the prevailing attitude of the day was in that era.......I was a grown woman then and I am just recalling the events as I remember them.
..and J. Edgar Hoover was a devil.....and should have been fired by Kennedy....
Dr. King's message was a postive route to take vesus Malcolm X's. Dr. King was for intergration, not to lose one's raicial identity or history, but to move beyond it and be judged as an individual.
MLK was not a doctor... Those that earned that title are insulted.
Dr King received his PhD from Boston U in 1955, would have taken about 10 seconds to search that.
Who is insulted? Dr. King did earn his title. He received his doctorate in theology from Boston University in 1955, after receiving a Bachelor of Arts from Morehouse College in 1948 and a Bachelor of Divinity from Crozer Theological Seminary in 1951. This is no different than Henry Kissenger or even Dr. Rice, former Secreatry of State. Any tenured professor in the US who has a Ph.D. will call themselves Dr. Get a better handle on your facts.
Yeah, and his thesis was plagarized all the way. BU put a note about that in the MLK file years ago. High school students get penalized for non-attribution, but not MLK.
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/11/us/boston-u-panel-finds-plagiarism-by-dr-king.html
Toss in the prostitutes, womanizing, and drinking, not mention slapping Coretta and the kids around, and you have quite the guy.
What bugs me is that there are SO many decent black men who really have made a contribution to society in general, and THEY get ignored.
As the old saying goes "Nothing succeeds like excess"........
Ritdog, Bush 2 got straight Cs in college and barely made a bachelor's degree. He probably slapped around the ol' lady a time or two, got drunk on the ranch and might even had a whore or two. Al Gore doesn't fare much better and we can talk about Clinton all night. The bottom line is Dr. King was awarded a Doctorate degree, so don't be a hater. He is not perfect and I bet you got some things in your life you wish nobody digs up. Given the time, the race relations climate, and many other factors Dr. King did OK.
Wow. So you question DOCTOR King's title and you got slammed. So you change the narrative to some crap about plagiarism and prostitutes (by the way, spell check works). That is so sad.
And shadow, speak for yourself, any doctor should be proud to carry a title that the Great Dr.. King carried. Racism is sad.
It okay to change your calendar the 1960's are gone.
MADDOG and 2SENSE. I'M not questioning anything- just repeating what Boston University, the PHD granting authority for MLK, has said. Why don't you write them and tell them they are wrong about their own "degree."
Your position on this supports anybody who now wants to cheat on their thesis -- if it's good enough for MLK, why not anybody else? That would devalue all the effort a person of any color puts into their doctorate, or is it just blacks that need the accommodation? You are getting racist, boys.......
Again, I think there are a lot better people than MLK for the black community specifically, and other people of any color in general, to look up to.
The fact that he had a good PR program, and lots of advertising do not negate the fact that he plagiarized his PHD (spelling OK now, 2sense?).
No matter who caused the assasinations, two great men are dead. Malcolm X had turned from the radical Nation of Islam and Dr. King had realized that he would not see the results of his struggles.
Both men died and their tragic deaths are two more stains on a country that had spent centuries dealing with their "All men are created equal" vs. "We demand the right to hold slaves" attitudes.
Ridiculous comments regarding our President merely demonstrate the argument. Racism is alive and well and deeply rooted in this country. It veils itself as merely political, but it's there no matter what you call it. Curious Bob - you're a bigot. Would you have made that comment if our President's name was McCain? Of course not.
Yeah, you are right, racism is alive and well as can be seen in your post. It was the Nation of Islam that assassinated Malcom X.
To Shadow-2012744
He received his Doctor of Philosophy on June 5, 1955, with a dissertation on "A Comparison of the Conceptions of God in the Thinking of Paul Tillich and Henry Nelson Wieman"
Anyone earning a PhD is entitled to put 'Dr.' in front of their name. You do know that universities and colleges are loaded with instructors who do it, don't you? Henry Kissinger uses the title, does he insult 'real doctors' also?
To navyvet98
What exactly was racist about my comment? Furthermore, I made no claim as to who might have assasinated either person. If you make the claim and point the finger, show the proof. While the possibility of Farakhan's involvement exists, there is no solid evidence on which to base the assertion. James Earl Ray said for years he wasn't the only one involved in Dr. King's assasination - where's the proof>
It fit the mold to blame it on Farrakhan......the country was on tenterhooks about race and violent reactions were beginning to erupt.
screw the term Racist.. it means jack @!$%# to me.. how about STUPIDITY...To make any discussion towards Slavery in todays world basically tells me that Michael.. is a stupid ass.. because again.. slavery means nothing to america any more. unless you use it as a crutch to advance your position.. I will commend any Human.. which we all are.. for everything you and i and others can do to further growth for everyone.. but the moment an individual causes harm to others.. they are an @!$%#.. if they cant help someone... they are an @!$%#... bottom line help thy fellow man.. no matter what..
Ohio is it stupid to discuss the Holocaust. Or maybe its stupid to discuss your family heritage. Somehow you managed to insult Micheal's very intelligent post; by calling him a stupid ass, what then does that make you? Enlightened? Hardly.
I believe he made reference to the constitution as well, guess that's an old and stupid document, probably shouldn't be discussing that either. It's the attitude he was discussing. the same attitude that makes people like you think that anyone who doesn't think like you do, is a stupid ass.
I agree slavery is long gone. But the attitudes that allowed it to exist are alive and well, in Ohio.
Hmmm ... a Malcolm X speech that is (1) unique --- not like other speeches he gave, and (2) calls for blacks to forge their own identity separate from the rest of America. I think that not both of these things can be true.
Most of his speeches were in front of All Black, and or Muslim audiences. He rarely ventured outside that loop because, as he said "We need to deal with our own people". The speech was significant because this time the listeners were educated Whites #1. And #2 The NOI has always worked toward a separate but equal existence for American Blacks. Dr. King and Malcolm were at odds partly because of those opposing views. It is right before his trip to Mecca that he began to consider, there might be a stronger reason why intergration may produce a better Black people than separation. During his trip he had the change of heart, and announced it upon his return.
Whoa there people, ALL black men who spoke out in the sixties were demonized. That residual attitude is apparent in the tea party of today and the statements of the President being a nice enough guy but just not "ready" to be our leader. I am a senior from the south and remember when ALL black men were considered to be less intelligent and more inclined to be lazy, on welfare and likely to rape your daughters if not watched closely. What was written about Malcolm X reflected that agenda.
Kath, i do admit i didnt grow up when and where you did.. we all have differing opinions of life, liberty and ect based on our environments.. The 60's were a time in all lives that we all need to reflect on, not base all decisions of today on. There are many differing attitudes against Obama as well as any individual who may be president.. there always will be.. Let's all get past a skin difference and continue to look at the individual only... so let's look at his college records.. produce them, lets wonder why we have unelected CZARS in positions that our govt doesnt need them... and we are spending our country into a hole.... can you do this.. can i.. no.. we dont have a bank in the world that would allow us.. so why and how can we allow our govt to do this.. NOT a black man.. Our president... and I am not a tea party person but i believe in what they offer.. just like if you looked at alot of the ideals they hold.. you would agree as well..
My name is not Kath.....it is Kathryn........we can reflect on that time when it is truly over.....we are not yet beyond skin color.......
KATHRYN.......folks like you are not past skin color. I recommend you go to a TEA Party rally and listen to the speakers, MANY of whom are black. The last two rallies I attended had keynote speakers who were black and golly (!!!) one was a WOMAN! Get out of the big media that backs the liberal socialist regime and see and think for yourself. Frankly any racist pigs that show up at any of the rallies I have attended would have been run off....
You betcha!
Facts are facts, Kat. X was a separatist. BHO, like socialists and Keynsians, don't understand that fascism is unsustainable. You, like most racists dwell on race.
That's good Frakwye. Just lump separatists and socialists together with Keynsians and Fascists as if they are related somehow. It doesn't matter if you don't know one from the other and could distinquish a cat from a dog. Just ramble young man ramble.
Who cares?
Apparently not you .......so why bother to comment?
well they could have said a little about the contents of the tape...was the student who found it looking for something rated X...
Quick, build him a Chinese made statue.
Oh goody, an article about a black guy, which of course gives the small-minded an opportunity to sneer at Obama. Of course they do that with an article about bad weather somewhere in Europe, but an article about a black guy, well that's just Obama-sneerer GOLD!
They surely don't need much, I contend it is still the old hangover attitude that it is okay to say anything you want about a black man. Of course if they respond that man is still called "uppity".......some people never change!
has nothing to do with black or white.. white momma-who let her parents raise her kid, black , no help daddy, leaves a poor HUMAN KID.. with no direction.... hmmm no wonder our country is spiraling..
After seeing some of the Comments I See not Much has Change......SMH!!!!
Exactly what I see also..........not much change.....just "allowable" words being used now.
After reading some of the Comments I See not Much has Changed .......SMH
the argument has changed now to the white man is on top so we must take from him
Take what from him??? Blacks haven't taken anything; especially from Whites. Unless you consider they were taking the abuse dished out by Whites. Whites have done the taking: Taken Blacks from their ancestoral homelands, taken away the language of their forefathers, taken away their religion, taken away their right to self determination, freedom, justice, and equality. And I definately don't mean ALL or even most Whites were involved, but have ALL Whites in America have benefited? YES.
well this white person hasn't benefited. All i see is money wasted on social programs that havent changed anything nor will they.
You don't know what the heck you are talking about. How did White's benefit?? You mean the murders of white's by Black's? The rape? The robbery's? The riot's by Black's? Playing the Race card every time a Black disagreed with a white?? How???? Just questions that you will think are Racist.
Whites have always benefited in the U.S.....white means you are first in line.
@Tarzan7, If you're white and don't benefit from white supremacy then you must be trailer trash. And please spare us your sorry argument. Millions more blacks have been murdered, raped, robbed and rioted against by whites. The klan is the oldest terrorist group in Amerikkka and have yet to answer for the atrocities they committed. I'm sure your grandad can tell you more about the good ol' days.
What?? Millions of Blacks were Murdered, Raped, Robbed by white's???? You have to be Joking. I think you read that report wrong. History tell's a different story. You can't argue with Fact. Fact is truth. And the truth shall set you free. Brother.
History tells us it was not until the 90's that lynching was made a federal crime.......you don't know of what you speak Tarzan7
@Tarzan, Let me educate you.
1. Millions of blacks died in The trans-atlantic slave trade alone! So many so, that sharks would trail the ships waiting to be fed.
2. Hundreds of thousands of blacks hung from trees during the world's greatest terrorist act, even after slavery was abolished; i.e Jim Crow.
3. Many successful Black towns were burned, looted and pillaged by people like you out of jealousy and fear; i.e Tulsa Oklahoma, Rosewood Fl and many other towns.
4. As far as rape goes, where do you think all these Mulatto (light-skinned) blacks came from? Ask your great-grandaddy about that one.
5. Lastly, I will address your obvious ignorance about the cruel, sophisticated paramilitary campaigns, starting with the Ku Klux Klan’s rampage through the southeastern states such as Colfax, La., Elaine, Arkansas, Atlanta, GA, East St. Louis and many other cities.
You sir need to read more than what you see on msnbc.
Too bad your "facts" are made up.
HNIC - I got beat up all the time by black kids at school or neighborhood and called "honky" or "whitey" but I never blamed it on all blacks. I blame it on racists that were black.
@Frankwye, if you went to a black school you too obviously didn't benefit from white supremacy, how sad...although unfortunate here are the facts!
Estimates for the total number of blacks imported to the New World by the slave trade range from 25 million to 50 million; of these, perhaps as many as half died at sea during the Middle Passage experience.
Lynching, the practice of killing people by extrajudicial mob action, occurred in the United States chiefly from the late 18th century through the 1960s.
The Tulsa Race Riot was a large-scale racially motivated conflict, May 31 - June 1, 1921. Aerial fire bombing of black residential neighborhoods was reported. During the 16 hours of the assault, over 800 people were admitted to local hospitals with injuries, more than 6,000 Greenwood residents were arrested and detained at three local facilities.
So sad you got beat up in school...smh.
I went to a P.U.B.L.I.C. school. Why is it always about race with you. I don't know anyone that benefitted from white supremacy. They are all dead. Everyone I know gets ahead by going to school.
Ah, in case anyone missed it... New World not U.S.
From the beginnings of slavery in British North America around 1619, when a Dutch ship brought 20 enslaved Africans to the Virginia colony at Jamestown, nearly 240 years passed until the Thirteenth Amendment to the U. S. Constitution officially ended slavery in 1865. This means that 12 generations of blacks survived and lived in America as enslaved people-direct descendants of the nearly 500,000 enslaved Africans imported into North America by European traders.
Realistic estimates are 12-13M total to the Western Hemisphere.
Sigh...must I educate you as well. Geez, I see why some whites don't benefit from white supremacy, they don't know their own language!
New World Definition: The New World is one of the names used for the Western Hemisphere, specifically the Americas
Please get out of that trailer and pick up a book...starting with the dictionary!
I'm glad the tapes were found of malcolm x. But I want the world to know I love Farrakhan. Keep up the good work of letting blacks know the truth of who the devil really is. the white man.
That's just so wrong and way out of line for anything anyone has said on this comment stream. Really...loss for words.
THANK YOU maddog... good job
jmsbigike1
Malcolm X after making the trip to Mecca and seeing people of different races coming together to worship their god realised he was wrong in advocating to keep the races seperate. He came back to America with a completly differ attitude towards the white race. Which the way I understand it is why Farakahn had such a displeasure towards Malcolm X.
Malcolm started out as another white hating bigot but after a period of time realised his error and changed his attitude.
kjw369'' Farrakhan never was displease with Malcolm X over seeing different races coming together and worshipping their God,or having a differ attiude towards the white race. What Farrakhan and the whole N.O.I hated was Malcolm X talking about the T.H.E.M. He clean Malcolm X up,educated Malcolm X,put him out front and now Malcolm X wants to belittle T.H.E.M. That's what had the whole N.O.I,not only Farrakhan, but the whole N.O.I. mad.
kjw369.... Now u say that Malcolm X started out as a white hating bigot. Sorry to tell u this,but Malcolm X never hated white people. Go back and look or read everything Malcolm X and you'll never hear or see the words hate people. The T.H.E.M never teach hate. Go back and look or read everything Farrakhan has said and you'll never hear or see the words hate white people.What the N.O.I hated and still do is the avtions of white people. Killing blacks like pigs. Our black women having no choice but to lay down and be raped. Yes raped. Raped.....So if even if a black man says he hate the white race that could never compare to the actions done to the black race.
Wow... all the racist comments seem to be coming from the people who claim they are against racism. What a shock.
Read your own comments much vet?
Yeah, and all the people for abortion have already been born!!!!
Love U Farrakhan.
I love Shaka-khan!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget Kublah-Khan
oh yeah...chaka khan...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm_cFzVAoo8
I love Chaka Kahn.
Chaka Kahn!!!!!
Sorry, I do not trust anything that the open media tells me. My experience is that when they turn up with lost anything there is always something behind it. I cannot believe they did not know there was a speech hidden somewhere. These things appear when something is afoot. As far as I can think it could be our black prince of deceitfulness Barrack Obama bringing something new to hurt black people if truth be told.
Yew don't suppose the gubmint is tryin' to start some kinda Black History Month or sumthin,' dew ya?
Yusuf Shah set up the hit on Malcolm X. He was an equal to Louis Farrakhan not an underling.The shooter has never been charged but lives in New Jersey and has apologized to those wrongly convicted.
“Before I get involved in any thing nowadays, I have to straighten out my own position, which is clear. I am not a racist in any form whatsoever. I don’t believe in any form of racism. I don’t believe in any form of discrimination or segregation. I believe in Islam (which literaly means submission and surrender to the will of God Almighty). I am a Muslim ( one who surrenders to the will of God). It just teaches us to believe in Allah as God.
(Malcolm X, just eight days before his assassination, Detriot).
“I totally reject Elijah Muhammad’s racist philosophy which he has labelled ‘Islam’ only to fool and misuse gullible people as he fooled and misused me…, (Islam) doesn’t use the colour of a man’s skin to measure him…, Islam judges a man by his intention, by his behaviour, by his deeds.”
(Malcolm X, New York Times & Audubon Ballroom)
“The Qur’an compels the Muslim World to take a stand on the side of those whose human rights are being violated. No matter what the religious persuasion of the victim is.”
(Malcolm X: Letter from Nigeria, 1964)
I hate the way people have used Malcolm X's twin brother in all the videos that exist where he says the exact opposite of what MX said in these "press" releases!
ppcempire: The Qur'an also say's "Every soul shall come disputing on it's own behalf, and every soul shall be paid in full for what it wrought"....
Ahh I got that David Stone.....funny
A new tape was found? And who care's?????
ivetsithaca...what are you talking about?? Thomas Hagan served 40 years in prison for the killing and got parole on his 17th try and two other men were sentenced 20 years to life. What shooter has never been charged and where in the world are you getting this info?
I would love to hear one of these speeches, he was a very intelligent man as history would tell it. R.I.P Malcolm X
Hitler was brilliant too...Google some of his speeches. From one who lived during the "Malcolm X" period, he was a hate filled, racist-bigot who was murdered by his own hate-filled organization whose proclaimed "religion" spews hate all over the world.
MX was just a prophet of the coming tide of hate spewing Muslim world.
Just another victim of the 'religion of peace!"
Rest in peace? The only peace comes from the fact that we don't have to listen to this nutbag any longer...except someone finds a long lost speech!
Malcolm X was preaching against hate filled, racist-bigots such as yourself. He did not preach hate or racism, but simply believed that blacks could never acheive equality from whites. He sought to create a seperate cultural, political, and economic identity for blacks seperate from whites, and in no way preached hatred toward whites. He simply pointed out the hatered whites at the time had for blacks. The NOI is hardly representative of Islam and is merely a perverted form of Islam. After MX went to Mecca and viewed the true Islam he changed his views of the world and sought intergration and equality with whites. It was true Islamic teachings that opened his eyes to the fact that not all whites were evil and that the races could live peacefully together. From where Im sitting it seems that the tide of hatered is spewing from the so-called Christian world, not the Muslim world. Just look at the hatered and vitriol in your post!
Actually, during his lifetime, Malcolm X was a person of interest in more selective colleges and universities. He was intelligent, well-spoken, and certainly not afraid of being 'politically incorrect' at that time. As a young man, he acquired a criminal record, went to prison, educated himself, and then became someone of value to society. His murder was unfortunate.
He "acquired" a criminal record...R-E-A-L-L-Y? You say that as if he was working hard to achieve something wonderful. And it took prison to "educate" him...I thought that was the role of school...and if my history serves me right (I learned it while acquiring an education) Hitler too was 'educated' in prison, well-spoken, intelligent and totally politically incorrect!
Both these men were racist, angry at the "world" for the choices they had made and took it out in hate filled rhetoric that inflamed the world that captured the small-minded racists around them.
Poor little Malcolm and poor little Adolf...two "pees" in a pod.
What value is there in either of these two morally corrupt bigots?
When MLK and Malcolm X were alive the only choices they had was to speak up or take whatever the white power structure gave them. Much the same as women when we finally got fed up with the white, rich, male rule in this country.
The fact that you continue to compare Malcolm X to Hitler just shows your own ignorance and racism. You say he was angry at the world for "his choices." So are you arguing that his anger couldn't have possibly been a result of the daily discrimination and racism faced by blacks in America at this time? Did you ever think that not being able to eat in a restaurant or use a public restroom, to have fire hoses and dogs unleashed on you, to be beaten and jailed, or not having access to the same services, such as a quality education or health care were the reason for his hatered. It is because of small-minded bigots like yourself that men like Malcolm X were necessary
You may be right Stew but MLK had a better solution. Also, Alan Keyes, The Black Avenger, Ken Hamblin, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Allan West, etc. all have the best solutions.