What is the matter with people? When you go off into the woods, slip a compass in your pocket. It's this low-tech gadget that costs about $6.95 and will save your life if you have even a lick of sense.
Or you can just cost everyone a lot of money and time searching for you.
And couldn't any of you climb a tree and wave the shirt?
Cass and Vig: In a typical Oregon old-growth forest, the trees are reeeeeeally tall and you cannot wrap your arms around them. You need special climbing gear. And they were hunting for edible mushrooms, not psychoactive ones. Now we could discuss how anytime you head into any woods on any kind of outing in any season, but especially winter, one absolutely must be prepared with, at very least, appropriate layers of clothing, water and food (at least some sort of granola bars, a sandwich, something), perhaps a small flashlight. Anyway, glad they are safe, and hopefully a bit wiser for next time.
So the searchers found discarded litter - Persi can, etc. - on a forest trail.
Guess what folks - I'm very glad you were rescued.
Now that you are safe, please reflect that if you're going to live in OR, learn to protect the environment - if not for its own sake, then at least for the sake of your fellow residents who were willing to selflessly put themselves at risk to rescue you!!
So they started WITH a dog.....was the dog still with them or did the DOG find his way home?LOVE how badly put together these stories are..no one has ever explained about the beginning,the middle,the end and tying them all together?
Getting lost can easily happen. The family did the smart thing and stayed put. Granted, I'd have brought more than what they did but still it is great they survived.
DumbA$$ idiots, all 3. But hopefully they learned from this episode.
You never go out walking, hiking, camping, hunting of any kind without having at least a compass, water and snacks with you. Sure people do it all the time and they are usually found dead - and at great expense to taxpayers.
And YOU NEVER STAY IN ONE PLACE unless you are carrying an Emergency Locator unless, of course, you can not move. You get up and walk to the nearest clearing, at least or to the nearest creek bed - keep out of dense woods.
One piece of polished stainless steel makes a great signal piece. Drill a hole in it and wear it around your neck.
No compass, no extra food, snacks, no canteens of water, no flashlights, no batteries = stupid, stupid as these are the absolute bare items needed for going out in woods or camping, etc.
Take waterproof matches and only start a fire by a creek bed. These idiots would have caught the entire area on fire and died in the fire.
USA needs to make a Federal Law for idiots like these and all the others who get lost or injured and cost taxpayers millions of dollars a year.
If found alive and you DO NOT have at least a cheap GPS with extra batteries, and a compass, signal mirror, back pack with extra food and a water filter bottle where you can filter any water there is = then you are fined for the entire cost of the rescue.
A GPS BackTrack Personal Locator costs less than $40.00 and will show you exactly where you came from and where you are, etc. Idiots also need to remember to take extra batteries and a backup compass - OH and know how to read and use them. DUH.
A good GPS is less than $40.00
With a PERSONAL LOCATOR BEACON, PLB = or Personal Tractor as some company's call them = even a cheap one = like a SPOT Personal Tractor for less than $150.00 = authorities are alerted to your exact location and batteries will work for up to fourteen (14) days continuously sending out the signal to authorities and anyone else you want notified. Still should have extra batteries with you though as these are not Satellite Signal equipped so it might take a few days for your signal to get picked up by anyone or any emergency units.
With a PLB costing $200.00 and up = a signal will show your exact location and notify authorities and others immediately but is also waterproof and of course has more capabilities. Cheaper PLBs must be activated by the user.
Buying the more expensive = EPIRB for maritime (boats, canoes, surfboards, rafts, etc. anything on water or in the water = like you = or ELT for aircraft = are set off automatically when it goes a few feet down in water or you are falling in air, etc. = in case you fall and can not activate it yourself.
I carry a Globalfix Pro Automatic 406 MHz GPS EPIRB that costs around 1K now = I paid over 2K for mine because my life was worth more than that. And I had no job at that time = these goofballs at least had jobs. I sold many belongings to buy this EPIRB and have enough gas and food money to go on job interviews State wide; and even out of State, and took it with me.
Actually used it in first week. Not for me; but a vehicle in front of me went off a bridge to a no water ravine. I pulled over and activated my EPIRB (only auto activates if I had been in water or falling).
Military helicopter was over head in less than 15 minutes and rescuers repelled down and got survivors out (had to leave dead for photos, etc.; unless vehicle was going to explode, which this one did not). Took closest police, sheriff, fire and rescue over 45 minutes to arrive and I was told that by that time, one survivor would have died. Only bad thing was that my loved ones were automatically contacted by telephone and cell phones with my pre-recorded message and they thought I was seriously injured or possibly dead but I had called them right after I activated it and told them I was OK but others were not and that is why I used my EPIRB.
Survivors and their families and the families of deceased told rescue people, and later me, that they would be forever grateful to me. Actually offered to pay for my device but I said no and took nothing from them. I was blessed with a great job and very high salary just 3 days after this accident and that was enough for me.
One I have is the exact same rescue technology type used by US Military, Special Forces, Arctic Explorers, Coast Guard and NATO.
Besides giving your exact location, it also tells who you are. And not only alerts nearest 911 authorities but alerts any and all rescue in area = which means not only police and sheriff dept's; but all military, coast guard, etc. Also has a separate homing signal with flashing strobe light. = Only sends signal for 48 hours (2 days) but your location is found immediately when sent, in SECONDS.
Although it might take days for rescuer's to get to you (if you are on Mt. Hood = like all those idiots who get lost there all the time = Everest or in the Arctic, etc.)
With PLBs, EPIRBs or ELTs you should stay where you are unless your life is in danger in that area.
Even before I had my EPIRB, I always carried a compass, signal mirror, whistle, rain poncho, canteen, scissors, knife, portable water filter and all kinds of First Aid and other Emergency supplies in a large box in whatever vehicle I was driving. Also 2 emergency pocket shield blankets, 2 small pillows, 2 regular size blankets and a back pack along with at least 3 bottles of water, baggies of dry cereal, snack bars, peanut butter crackers and hard chocolate that does not melt. Later added a flare gun with a dozen extra flares and other items. All of this fits inside any vehicle and I only take the back pack in and out from home.
Also = People = make sure you have a metal headed hammer, pry bar or crow bar and a sharp knife under your front seat so you can cut your seat belts and bust out any window. Or buy the special made items for those purposes. Of course if you are incapacitated, you will not be able to use them but need them just in case.
You would think others would learn from stories like this; but no = stupid goes on and on.
And YOU NEVER STAY IN ONE PLACE unless you are carrying an Emergency Locator unless, of course, you can not move. You get up and walk to the nearest clearing, at least or to the nearest creek bed - keep out of dense woods.
You never stay in one place? Wrong. In the story the riff is quoted as saying both-"They sought some shelter in a hollowed-out tree and basically they stayed in the same place." and then later-"Bishop said the family was in the search area but likely kept moving, making the search for them more difficult." From other sources what I understand is they were in relatively the same area but kept circling around looking for the clearing you're telling them to find.
You ALWAYS stay in one place! The article clearly stated that SaR found their discarded buckets and other items first which means if they had stopped right where they were as soon as they realized they were lost they'd have been found sooner. This is what happens when people who are unaccustomed to being in the bush get lost. They panic and begin to rush around like fools commonly discarding whatever they may have with them, even clothing in some cases. Ultimately leading SaR on a wild goose chase as they circle about aimlessly.
Frankly people like this need to stay out of the backcountry altogether. Giving these sorts of people PLB's would be a nightmare for SaR because they'd be setting them off all the time. I recently read a story about a couple who dialed 911 because they managed to lost in an apple orchard.
If you're going into the backcountry, even if your plan is to stay on the trails, learn some basic wilderness skills (how to use a map and compass first and foremost), buy or make a basic survival kit, and then get yourself a cheap GPS. At the very least you'll be able to mark your car as a way-point and the GPS will point you in the right direction (bring extra batteries). And PLEASE don't forget to tell someone exactly where you're going and when to expect you back.
If you have no wilderness skills and you manage to get lost "hug a tree", that is to say, stay where you are and wait for someone to find you. Only move if you desparately need water, mark your trail and direction clearly (arrow shaped piles of rocks or twigs) and when you find water just stop and wait. Eventually someone like me will find you. The more you wonder about the longer it takes 99 out of 100 times.
Day packs are cheap and they can carry enough emergency supplies to get you through a unexpected situation, a thermal blanket and a garbage bag will fit in your pocket. a butane lighter of good quality and a can of lighter fluid is a must, cell phones or even a two way radio is nice to have, granola and energy bars are easy to take along and of course you need some TP. some people get lost as soon as they are out of sight of their vehicle, sometimes you might be better off to just stay put if you think someone is going to come looking for you, if not head down hill till you find a stream follow the stream till you find a river follow the river it knows where its going, but go down stream not up, unless you know the road is above you in which case you are not lost. if hurt and have difficulty walking find a clearing and build a fire with a good coal bed and maintain the fire keep some green vegetation handy to throw on the fire for smoke if you hear aircraft, or if you don't know what you are doing stay out of the woods, never go into the wilderness without at least a 24 hr day pack, and extra food, those people did not belong there, you also need to take a water bottle and some purification tablets, because the water could be contaminated and you don't need to get sick when you are lost in the woods. so even if you only intend on being in the wilderness for a couple of hours have daypacks with you just in case, you can carry days worth of survival gear for under 20 pounds of weight, and no great expense. enjoy the wilderness in safety. P.S. A .44 Super Blackhawk could come in handy!
That Papa sure set one poorass example for the wife and son. How to wonder off into the unknown without being adequately prepared, and how to dress like an underaged moron while offering a Nationally Broadcasted interview.
What's really sad about all this, is that he likey votes, and even worse, he's already bred and begun to multiply.
Perhaps they only intended to go so far, but like the man stated in the article, went farther than they thought they were going. It is easy to get turned around, and I am sure they learned from their mistakes.
Don't be so hard on them...you aren't so perfect, either.
Man, what is it about Curry County that attracts the dumbest people. Anybody from those counties, I'm the guy who was driving the Suburban with the cameras a few years ago, mapping roads in Curry and Coos counties. I spent a lot of time up in those mountains, and saw a lot of mushroom pickers, and some really dumbnuts too. I meanwhen I went up in those mountains I had maps from the state AND federal forestry officials, and the bureau of land management, AND a state of the art GPS system, and I could get turned around at times. And I AWAYS had water and food, warm clothes, a shovel and a winch to get myself out of trouble (which avoided excepting three times).
Most states have a program that is offered to all people that go into the wilderness areas and they charge a rescue fee as part of the permit so the money spent for search and rescue does not tax the tax payers. oregon should be like colorado, it charges a fee in every permit that grants access to wilderness areas. this way no one goes into a wilderness area without a permit, And well for supplies i think everyone has already said you dont go any where without some basic stuff so you can have a chance of suvival, rope, lighter or fire starting material, water, snacks, flashlight, map or some kind of way to tell where you are ( compass, GPS) it is great that they held it together long enough to get rescued.
Certain mushrooms have been known to disorient a person occasionally.
They should have gone here www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/ before their jaunt into the woods. The site has all kinds of info regarding "shrooms" among other things.
Yep, I'm an old, old hippy! And, his shirt is the bomb! She should be wearing a shirt with an arrow pointing at him with the words.....!
Oh come on.....don't you think this is a hilarious news story? An entire family got lost in the woods looking for mushrooms with the father wearing a multi sexual positions t-shirt while looking proud posing for a picture in the news paper???
wolfpack, you got it. Hilarious.............brings to mind the family lost in the corn maze around Halloween......The stupid shirt would have been more appropriate then.
Oh come on.....don't you think this is a hilarious news story? An entire family got lost in the woods looking for mushrooms with the father wearing a multi sexual positions t-shirt while looking proud posing for a picture in the news paper???
Actually, this was a picture provided by realatives several days ago. It's not what they were wearing when they were found.
What were they doing in the woods the good mushrooms are in the cow pastures. seriously people don't venture into wilderness areas without being prepared, check with your local S & R they will have a list of things to equip yourself with, and let someone know where you plan to go and when you plan to return, its no fun to have to get up in the middle of the night and go out looking for someone, even though now days we can locate you on your cell phone, its most likely going to be a while depending on weather before you can be rescued, especially if we have to go in on foot to do so, and cell phones don't always work in the wilderness. the best rescue is self rescue learn to do it. you know its always around dusk or later when a call comes in to go find somebody! and the area could be over 200 sq miles so a plan of what you expect to do is important. when people risk themselves they also put the rescuers at risk, so play safe and cover your bases. by doing so the life you save might be yours and mine. equipment, communication and knowledge all essential.
Reminds me of the old saying..."There are old mushroom hunters and bold mushrooms hunters, but there are no old, bold, mushroom hunters". "Chicken of the Woods" - now that's a new one to me! Interesting.
I'm with you heather meadows. I wish them a speedy recovery as well and that they continue with their hobby. The cruel "humor" at the bottom of these articles sometimes leaves me feeling as sad as some of the stories with unhappy endings. I'm glad they are safe and sound.
OMG! Memories of my youth! My Dad was an avid mushroom hunter and only ate the wrong one a couple of times! Once my Mom and Sister ended up in the emergency room and my Father was just dumfoundeed . HE ATE MORE THAN THEY DID....
Vigilant, what are you talking about? I can see without glasses that the wife is well-endowed and the husband is wearing an interesting T-shirt. I got all that from the beginning. I commented on the T-shirt in my first post. (5.2)---What did you not get???
I'm assuming you're a female and i think it's pretty cool you have no problem with the man wearing a multi sexual positions t-shirt. Most people thinks it's tacky or cheesy and wouldn't want to be caught dead wearing that shirt in public. It's great for a gag at a party or gets together. I only ever see teenagers wearing a shirt like this but not on an adult person. That's why a lot of people are having fun and laughing at this guy outfit.
Okay. Let's get this straight. Matilda and most of the rest of us are talking about the guy's shirt, although the woman's leaves a little room for comment, too.
Seriously, Matilda, you think it's classy for a anyone to wear that shirt? How old are you? 12?
Appears to be a bunch of trolls out on this story. To say one who gets lost is an idiot is an idiot thing to say. Ever been out in the wilderness bub? Do you have a built in compass that will never get you lost. You are pathetic and so are the rest our you bitching about a t-shirt. Has nothing to do with the story. How the hell would you feel if it was your family member who got lost? What a putz, do us a favor and sit in your chair and cheer on your favorite sports team, seems like that is all people like you do well beside trolling.
Lynyrd, I MAPPED the roads those clowns got lost on, and when I went up there I had the LATEST maps from ALL the represented government authorities, plus a DoD level GPS system and a LOAD of equipment to extricate myself if need be. And, I saw mushroomers, all over the place, although MOST had Oregon or California plates. And I can say, ONLY an idiot wuld go off into the would with out being prepared to find their way out, and failing that enough food and water to last for at least three-four days, along with telling their hotel or somebody where they hell they were going.
That's just basic common sense, AND I learned THAT in FLAT Minnesota.
A new Detailed MAP is way better than GPS here in Gold Beach. People have got really lost and have died using GPS here in Curry County. The logging roads literally change sometimes daily, my almost retired father makes some of the roads in the mountains here. Get a map at your nearest Forest Service Department where your harvesting permits.
......Never go into the woods without a GPS.....That is an excellent idea unless you cannot get a signal. Also, a lot of people cannot program their remote controls at home much less operate a GPS. It looks and sounds easy but it is not nearly as easy as one thinks. You would think that out of three people that at least one would havea cell phone.....however, we run across the signal strength issue again. i think a map and compass are your best bet but you must know how a compass works to get out of a mess with one of those. I guess best advice, if you do not know where you are at and are liable to get lost, stay at home.
If the roads change almost daily, how is a map going to help - might hurt - and a GPS makes that worse? I'd trade the map for the GPS - but favor the compass as one guy says. I have been in that position in strange woods - it takes a very little preparation for the compass to be very useful. Sure, the map and GPS would help too, but the compass is the key. Now before someone goes all 'hater' on that, I'm not saying you can be an expert map maker or end up within feet of your departure point on the first try without good training and experience, BUT, you surely can get close and in a position to be rescued.
I also agree with the person who called the article lame - too many missing details to really appreciate the story - must have been a slow news day and they posted this without enough to make it a fair story, much less a good one.
I echo the prayers for their healing and that they hopefully learn well from this one. Coast Guard, unsung heros really - derided by the regular military yet they do more work on drug interdiction and saving lives than all the rest I think (close to home).
If the roads change almost daily, how is a map going to help - might hurt - and a GPS makes that worse? I'd trade the map for the GPS - but favor the compass as one guy says. I have been in that position in strange woods - it takes a very little preparation for the compass to be very useful. Sure, the map and GPS would help too, but the compass is the key. Now before someone goes all 'hater' on that, I'm not saying you can be an expert map maker or end up within feet of your departure point on the first try without good training and experience, BUT, you surely can get close and in a position to be rescued.
I also agree with the person who called the article lame - too many missing details to really appreciate the story - must have been a slow news day and they posted this without enough to make it a fair story, much less a good one.
I echo the prayers for their healing and that they hopefully learn well from this one. Coast Guard, unsung heros really - derided by the regular military yet they do more work on drug interdiction and saving lives than all the rest I think (close to home).
I've seen simple "locater" GPS systems that are very simple to operate. you push a button where you start (like car or camp), and an arrow points back to where you started from.
Even in trees a GPS will work. You mayt loose a little singal but it will still work. Now if they were lost in a large building or a tunnel then the GPS might not work.
Actually Chad, even high end GPS units (think survey equipment) can have troubles in tall dense trees (and buildings). The unit has to have line of sight of at least 3 satellites to get a fairly accurate position. I have lost signal in downtown Portland. Plus these people (if you read the article) were in an area of canyons.
What ever happened to using the sun? A gps will fail you, a compass will as well, though rarely..yet the sun has never failed to rise in the east and set in the west. Unless its a heavy overcast,socked in cloud cover or just pea soup foggy...if you have any sort of sunlight at all and pay attention to your position to it you can get yourself in and out of just about anywhere.
Even still, sunlight or no sunlight how bout a compass? or simply and just as effectively..... what about telling some one where you are headed and when you plan to be back? Give somebody a starting point at least in case you don't return. Things like this can be avoided just by taking some extremely simple precautions based on good old common sense.
Its hard to be found if no one is looking where you are or where you should have been. The problem with woods navigation is that with sun,compass,map or gps you rarely if ever have the opportunity of walking in a straight line for any length of time at all. The landscape will always dictate the route you have to take and what that requires is paying attention to your surroundings ,and looking up and ahead and behind you, more often than down at your feet. Simple awareness will get you in and out most of the time,if you don't panic...but if you do then its usually all over. Its sounds to me as if they were never more than a few hundred yards or more from where they went in and probably no more than a mile away from anything the entire time they were out there. Unless they just went into a blind panic when they got turned around started on some forced march in the wrong direction...how far would they have gone on some leisurely mushroom hunt anyway? I don't know about that region,but i have spent a lot of time in southeast Alaska,similar terrain and timber and once you get inside those old growth forests they are just a mass of dead-fall and snags,all mossed over and fern-ed in and i guarantee you that's where they got their injuries. Walking logs over God knows what in and under the understory beneath them,slip off and you may just come in contact with the ground,or you may fall right into a log pile full of snags or right into some ravine. And of course if you get yourself into a bunch of blown down timber that's been there awhile and all over grown, it will rival and surpass the most challenging and dangerous obstacle course man has ever conceived of.
Anyway they had no business stepping off the beaten path and i highly doubt they will do that again.
If the roads change almost daily, how is a map going to help - might hurt - and a GPS makes that worse? I'd trade the map for the GPS
A proper map contains more information than just where the roads are. A GPS will point you in the right direction, which is certainly better than nothing, but it won't show you what is between you and your objective. A map AND compass (one is not of much use without the other IMO) will help you avoid lengthy delays if there is impassible terrainin your line of travel as you'll be able to navigate around obstacles before you run right into them.
Troyzkoi is dead on correct, that why I was mapping roads for the feds in Curry and Coos counties about 4 years ago. I had a VERY accurate GPS for where I was, but the ROAD that was supposed tobe there wasn't always there - many roads are abandoned or redone by logging companies and so on. That's why the FIRST people I saw in both counties were the state and federal forestry officials, and bureau of land management, to get THEIR LATEST maps of the roads, complete with washouts, slides, fallen trees and so on. In fact, I contributed to THEIR databases by reporting in slides and washouts I came across that they hadn't marked yet - I was way UP and OUT in the back country. And, I had a fully equiped Suburban with a winch (that I needed a few times) and supplies.
And, you can't count on the weather - third day I was in Curry, I'd gone up the Gold river and then turned off to the south to go up a forestry road. When I had left Gold Coast, it was cloudy. BY the time I'd climbed to 1500 feet it was light rain. as I passed 2400, feet the rain turned to snow and was QUICKLY accumulating I climbed another 150 feet, the snow was four inches deep on the road and falliing fast, so I stopped, turned around and headed back down the mountians. By the time I got to Gold Coast, they were STILL dry. That happened to me a number of times, and being useed to the idea that snow ONLY can get worse, I always cut my losses and retreated.
Ask my wife about your statement that the sun never fails to rise in the east and set in the west. She WAS survival trained when she was in Army Junior ROTC. Then she met me and moved to Alaska. In Alaska the sun rises rughly in the east and sets roughly in the west depending on what time of year it isIt can be rising in the NE and setting in the SW.
And I bet they have ONE HELL of a story to tell us all about their mushroom "picking" experience. Seriously though, glad that everyone was found safe and for the most part sound. Not the usual ending we hear from in "lost in the wilderness" stories.
3 mushroom hunters, 0 lighters ($2), 0 compass ($5-10), 0 gps ($30 used), glad thousands of $ in taxpayer money and public servants hours were available in this instance
sometimes the "Journalists" aren't anywhere as observant as they would like you and I to think. Always question what they do or say, no one is above reproach.
Journalists are not suppose to alter photo. Cropping is one thing, and the excuse is to make it fit the space. Photoshopping, airbrushing, and such alterations can seriously affect your employment status.
I did not notice the shirt until I read your comment! That is too funny. You would think the editors would have at least made the shirt fuzzy to keep little eyes from seeing the characters. It is not difficult to notice the positions of the characters. You can pick your friends but not your relatives!!
The scary thing is that if they would have died that picture would be on display between the caskets at the memorial service! Hilarious. Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't even look at the picture.
Like some others, until mentioned, I failed to realize what the characters were on the guy's t-shirt; this is where sex ed comes in in case a child sees that and asks what the significance of characters are.
they have to digitalize a nike swoosh but they can't do something about that ridiculous and inappropriate shirt?!!! No one should 1.make that shirt 2. buy that shirt 3. wear that shirt - with the ONE exception of a drunken college kid on spring break who threw up on his own shirt and this was in the dollar bin at the souvenir shop!
Didn't notice the shirt either till I read your post.... Although I know it was a terrible ordeal.....I have to agree....Was that the only picture the family had....LoL
you also fail to realise people missing should be shown as recent and close to appearance as possible. sometimes you do not have a choice. some people like myself do not see the need to photo myself at every gathering, get-away, or what have you. its a good pic of them both, most likely from last summer/fall. you dont like the shirt, too bad. it isnt a photo contest, its a missing persons.
I dont think that is the shirt he was wearing. This looks like a photo that the family gave to the press while they were missing. It look like a vacation photo.
Had to go back and look at the shirt. The wife must be so damn proud.
Chad, I think that's the point of it all... a note to the family "please find a picture of me in a better outfit if I ever go missing". We all assume that is not the shirt he was wearing when he went missing.
yeah....being lost in the woods for six days wearing that t-shirt. I'm sure both the hubby and wifey didn't have any problem finding something to keep them both busy.
Hell, i see it too "bigpaul". If she'd asked me to go pick mushrooms with her i probably would've gotten lost myself,mistakenly on purpose that is.LOL.
The link includes a photo of the couple ala 2012. I have to admit I would have used the picture in the Article as well. Look like some rough times for these since the photo was taken.
I just noticed his tshirt after the post.....Happy they found them alive, but what the heck......He should burn that shirt. Of all things to be photographed wearing for the world to see;)
So where does it say that photo was taken AFTER they were resucued? Perhaps that happened to be one of the only photos of them both together and that's why it was used.
YEEEEHAAAaaa!Not supposed to eat the mushrooms until you're OUT of the woods LOL This is going to be one expensive mushroom hunt, with airlifts and all, and injuries.
Seriously, I'm glad they made it out ok, if not in great shape. I'd like to mushroom hunt myself, love 'em saute'd in butter, but if you don't know what you're doing, you could poison yourself real easy.
There have been several cases of severe illness/death eating the wrong mushrooms, of the type found in the wild. Angel of Death comes to mind, not sure, but it put me off any wild mushrooms years ago.
These people were lucky to be found alive. Common sense tells us to stay put when lost. I guess they didn't have much of that? Just what kind of shrooms were they looking for?
About time they found them, I was wondering why all the air traffic over my house. The magic shrooms grow on the coast here not in the mountains, for those wondering. I have never got lost here in the mountains in Gold Beach, but I have also lived her almost forever.
I've been locked behind a logging road gate before while harvesting mushrooms and had to sleep in my vehicle over night, but never got lost. Oklahoman's.... just kidding. Glad they were found. Hope they found enough mushrooms to pay for all the search and rescue!!!
It's an easy thing to get lost in those mountains for someone without good maps though, especially as you have overlapping authorities who ALL have unique ways of naming their roads. Man that ALWAYS drove me to distraction.
Thank you for a positive comment. I can't understand all the mean spirited remarks. Any one can become injured and or disoriented out in the woods. I do agree with the poor taste in t-shirt remarks though.
Pooter, that is uncalled for. People love mushrooms and are very grateful to those who venture out to find them FOR US. What are you expecting ? To see Donald Trump hunting for mushrooms ? Or Oprah ?
duh. my thanks go to the people who harvest mushrooms and huckleberries in bear country. So there.
another couple used GPS here in the mountains. There were casualties. GPS in the mountains a big NO NO, go to your local forest service where you can also get your mushroom harvest permit and get a up to date MAP. GPS does not inlude the just built logging roads from year to year.
Stay put and use a sports whistle. GPS doesn't do the job. The searchers would have heard the whistle, and the threesome could have taken turns blowing it.
Seems to me t'would be simple enough to encourage people to wear tracking devices somewhat like the devices put on collars on wild animals. They might be quite expensive, but visitors unfamiliar with the territory could rent them.
Flatlanders.
I guess they were looking to get killed one way or the other.
What is the matter with people? When you go off into the woods, slip a compass in your pocket. It's this low-tech gadget that costs about $6.95 and will save your life if you have even a lick of sense.
Or you can just cost everyone a lot of money and time searching for you.
And couldn't any of you climb a tree and wave the shirt?
Aaron in Portland: Me thinks Belinda needs to send Daniel to the TV Show
"WHAT NOT TO WEAR ?" !!!
Cassie321: Climb tree and wave a shirt? Not if they were smokin' Mushrooms....
Those must have been some GOOOOOOOOOOOOD mushrooms!
;-)
Cass and Vig: In a typical Oregon old-growth forest, the trees are reeeeeeally tall and you cannot wrap your arms around them. You need special climbing gear. And they were hunting for edible mushrooms, not psychoactive ones. Now we could discuss how anytime you head into any woods on any kind of outing in any season, but especially winter, one absolutely must be prepared with, at very least, appropriate layers of clothing, water and food (at least some sort of granola bars, a sandwich, something), perhaps a small flashlight. Anyway, glad they are safe, and hopefully a bit wiser for next time.
So the searchers found discarded litter - Persi can, etc. - on a forest trail.
Guess what folks - I'm very glad you were rescued.
Now that you are safe, please reflect that if you're going to live in OR, learn to protect the environment - if not for its own sake, then at least for the sake of your fellow residents who were willing to selflessly put themselves at risk to rescue you!!
So they started WITH a dog.....was the dog still with them or did the DOG find his way home?LOVE how badly put together these stories are..no one has ever explained about the beginning,the middle,the end and tying them all together?
Getting lost can easily happen. The family did the smart thing and stayed put. Granted, I'd have brought more than what they did but still it is great they survived.
DumbA$$ idiots, all 3. But hopefully they learned from this episode.
You never go out walking, hiking, camping, hunting of any kind without having at least a compass, water and snacks with you. Sure people do it all the time and they are usually found dead - and at great expense to taxpayers.
And YOU NEVER STAY IN ONE PLACE unless you are carrying an Emergency Locator unless, of course, you can not move. You get up and walk to the nearest clearing, at least or to the nearest creek bed - keep out of dense woods.
One piece of polished stainless steel makes a great signal piece. Drill a hole in it and wear it around your neck.
No compass, no extra food, snacks, no canteens of water, no flashlights, no batteries = stupid, stupid as these are the absolute bare items needed for going out in woods or camping, etc.
Take waterproof matches and only start a fire by a creek bed. These idiots would have caught the entire area on fire and died in the fire.
USA needs to make a Federal Law for idiots like these and all the others who get lost or injured and cost taxpayers millions of dollars a year.
If found alive and you DO NOT have at least a cheap GPS with extra batteries, and a compass, signal mirror, back pack with extra food and a water filter bottle where you can filter any water there is = then you are fined for the entire cost of the rescue.
A GPS BackTrack Personal Locator costs less than $40.00 and will show you exactly where you came from and where you are, etc. Idiots also need to remember to take extra batteries and a backup compass - OH and know how to read and use them. DUH.
A good GPS is less than $40.00
With a PERSONAL LOCATOR BEACON, PLB = or Personal Tractor as some company's call them = even a cheap one = like a SPOT Personal Tractor for less than $150.00 = authorities are alerted to your exact location and batteries will work for up to fourteen (14) days continuously sending out the signal to authorities and anyone else you want notified. Still should have extra batteries with you though as these are not Satellite Signal equipped so it might take a few days for your signal to get picked up by anyone or any emergency units.
With a PLB costing $200.00 and up = a signal will show your exact location and notify authorities and others immediately but is also waterproof and of course has more capabilities. Cheaper PLBs must be activated by the user.
Buying the more expensive = EPIRB for maritime (boats, canoes, surfboards, rafts, etc. anything on water or in the water = like you = or ELT for aircraft = are set off automatically when it goes a few feet down in water or you are falling in air, etc. = in case you fall and can not activate it yourself.
I carry a Globalfix Pro Automatic 406 MHz GPS EPIRB that costs around 1K now = I paid over 2K for mine because my life was worth more than that. And I had no job at that time = these goofballs at least had jobs. I sold many belongings to buy this EPIRB and have enough gas and food money to go on job interviews State wide; and even out of State, and took it with me.
Actually used it in first week. Not for me; but a vehicle in front of me went off a bridge to a no water ravine. I pulled over and activated my EPIRB (only auto activates if I had been in water or falling).
Military helicopter was over head in less than 15 minutes and rescuers repelled down and got survivors out (had to leave dead for photos, etc.; unless vehicle was going to explode, which this one did not). Took closest police, sheriff, fire and rescue over 45 minutes to arrive and I was told that by that time, one survivor would have died. Only bad thing was that my loved ones were automatically contacted by telephone and cell phones with my pre-recorded message and they thought I was seriously injured or possibly dead but I had called them right after I activated it and told them I was OK but others were not and that is why I used my EPIRB.
Survivors and their families and the families of deceased told rescue people, and later me, that they would be forever grateful to me. Actually offered to pay for my device but I said no and took nothing from them. I was blessed with a great job and very high salary just 3 days after this accident and that was enough for me.
One I have is the exact same rescue technology type used by US Military, Special Forces, Arctic Explorers, Coast Guard and NATO.
Besides giving your exact location, it also tells who you are. And not only alerts nearest 911 authorities but alerts any and all rescue in area = which means not only police and sheriff dept's; but all military, coast guard, etc. Also has a separate homing signal with flashing strobe light. = Only sends signal for 48 hours (2 days) but your location is found immediately when sent, in SECONDS.
Although it might take days for rescuer's to get to you (if you are on Mt. Hood = like all those idiots who get lost there all the time = Everest or in the Arctic, etc.)
With PLBs, EPIRBs or ELTs you should stay where you are unless your life is in danger in that area.
Even before I had my EPIRB, I always carried a compass, signal mirror, whistle, rain poncho, canteen, scissors, knife, portable water filter and all kinds of First Aid and other Emergency supplies in a large box in whatever vehicle I was driving. Also 2 emergency pocket shield blankets, 2 small pillows, 2 regular size blankets and a back pack along with at least 3 bottles of water, baggies of dry cereal, snack bars, peanut butter crackers and hard chocolate that does not melt. Later added a flare gun with a dozen extra flares and other items. All of this fits inside any vehicle and I only take the back pack in and out from home.
Also = People = make sure you have a metal headed hammer, pry bar or crow bar and a sharp knife under your front seat so you can cut your seat belts and bust out any window. Or buy the special made items for those purposes. Of course if you are incapacitated, you will not be able to use them but need them just in case.
You would think others would learn from stories like this; but no = stupid goes on and on.
@THE WAY IT IS
You never stay in one place? Wrong. In the story the riff is quoted as saying both-"They sought some shelter in a hollowed-out tree and basically they stayed in the same place." and then later-"Bishop said the family was in the search area but likely kept moving, making the search for them more difficult." From other sources what I understand is they were in relatively the same area but kept circling around looking for the clearing you're telling them to find.
You ALWAYS stay in one place! The article clearly stated that SaR found their discarded buckets and other items first which means if they had stopped right where they were as soon as they realized they were lost they'd have been found sooner. This is what happens when people who are unaccustomed to being in the bush get lost. They panic and begin to rush around like fools commonly discarding whatever they may have with them, even clothing in some cases. Ultimately leading SaR on a wild goose chase as they circle about aimlessly.
Frankly people like this need to stay out of the backcountry altogether. Giving these sorts of people PLB's would be a nightmare for SaR because they'd be setting them off all the time. I recently read a story about a couple who dialed 911 because they managed to lost in an apple orchard.
If you're going into the backcountry, even if your plan is to stay on the trails, learn some basic wilderness skills (how to use a map and compass first and foremost), buy or make a basic survival kit, and then get yourself a cheap GPS. At the very least you'll be able to mark your car as a way-point and the GPS will point you in the right direction (bring extra batteries). And PLEASE don't forget to tell someone exactly where you're going and when to expect you back.
If you have no wilderness skills and you manage to get lost "hug a tree", that is to say, stay where you are and wait for someone to find you. Only move if you desparately need water, mark your trail and direction clearly (arrow shaped piles of rocks or twigs) and when you find water just stop and wait. Eventually someone like me will find you. The more you wonder about the longer it takes 99 out of 100 times.
Day packs are cheap and they can carry enough emergency supplies to get you through a unexpected situation, a thermal blanket and a garbage bag will fit in your pocket. a butane lighter of good quality and a can of lighter fluid is a must, cell phones or even a two way radio is nice to have, granola and energy bars are easy to take along and of course you need some TP. some people get lost as soon as they are out of sight of their vehicle, sometimes you might be better off to just stay put if you think someone is going to come looking for you, if not head down hill till you find a stream follow the stream till you find a river follow the river it knows where its going, but go down stream not up, unless you know the road is above you in which case you are not lost. if hurt and have difficulty walking find a clearing and build a fire with a good coal bed and maintain the fire keep some green vegetation handy to throw on the fire for smoke if you hear aircraft, or if you don't know what you are doing stay out of the woods, never go into the wilderness without at least a 24 hr day pack, and extra food, those people did not belong there, you also need to take a water bottle and some purification tablets, because the water could be contaminated and you don't need to get sick when you are lost in the woods. so even if you only intend on being in the wilderness for a couple of hours have daypacks with you just in case, you can carry days worth of survival gear for under 20 pounds of weight, and no great expense. enjoy the wilderness in safety. P.S. A .44 Super Blackhawk could come in handy!
That Papa sure set one poorass example for the wife and son. How to wonder off into the unknown without being adequately prepared, and how to dress like an underaged moron while offering a Nationally Broadcasted interview.
What's really sad about all this, is that he likey votes, and even worse, he's already bred and begun to multiply.
Really Duphas?
Perhaps they only intended to go so far, but like the man stated in the article, went farther than they thought they were going. It is easy to get turned around, and I am sure they learned from their mistakes.
Don't be so hard on them...you aren't so perfect, either.
Would you have rather heard they had died?
Watch this family now show up on "I Shouldn't Be Alive" or a similar survival show.
Wedding photo from the OK trailer park?
Man, what is it about Curry County that attracts the dumbest people. Anybody from those counties, I'm the guy who was driving the Suburban with the cameras a few years ago, mapping roads in Curry and Coos counties. I spent a lot of time up in those mountains, and saw a lot of mushroom pickers, and some really dumbnuts too. I meanwhen I went up in those mountains I had maps from the state AND federal forestry officials, and the bureau of land management, AND a state of the art GPS system, and I could get turned around at times. And I AWAYS had water and food, warm clothes, a shovel and a winch to get myself out of trouble (which avoided excepting three times).
What kind of Mushrooms? Did they get lost or just baked?
I can't believe one of them didn't have a smart phone with GPS or at least a cell phone.
Most states have a program that is offered to all people that go into the wilderness areas and they charge a rescue fee as part of the permit so the money spent for search and rescue does not tax the tax payers. oregon should be like colorado, it charges a fee in every permit that grants access to wilderness areas. this way no one goes into a wilderness area without a permit, And well for supplies i think everyone has already said you dont go any where without some basic stuff so you can have a chance of suvival, rope, lighter or fire starting material, water, snacks, flashlight, map or some kind of way to tell where you are ( compass, GPS) it is great that they held it together long enough to get rescued.
They musta found the wrong mushrooms. I hope they all learned a lesson in this, you don't get but a few.
In Ore. they definitely did find the "wrong" mushrooms.
Were they trying to walk to one of the Gulf states?
My thoughts and prayers go out to the family of James Kim. May he rest in peace.
And they found toilet paper? What on earth were these people doing?
Certain mushrooms have been known to disorient a person occasionally.
They should have gone here www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/ before their jaunt into the woods. The site has all kinds of info regarding "shrooms" among other things.
Yep, I'm an old, old hippy! And, his shirt is the bomb! She should be wearing a shirt with an arrow pointing at him with the words.....!
the wife should be wearing a t-shirt saying ...I'M WITH STUPID.
Once again public resources wasted again...
If they were prepared and got out of it --- I'd feel differently. But going in with nary BASIC daypack to survive overnight is sheer stupidity.
Just eats my craw!!
Oh come on.....don't you think this is a hilarious news story? An entire family got lost in the woods looking for mushrooms with the father wearing a multi sexual positions t-shirt while looking proud posing for a picture in the news paper???
just be glad it didn't turn out to be skeletal remains they found...if ya know what i mean...
wolfpack, you got it. Hilarious.............brings to mind the family lost in the corn maze around Halloween......The stupid shirt would have been more appropriate then.
wolfpack2000
Actually, this was a picture provided by realatives several days ago. It's not what they were wearing when they were found.
What were they doing in the woods the good mushrooms are in the cow pastures. seriously people don't venture into wilderness areas without being prepared, check with your local S & R they will have a list of things to equip yourself with, and let someone know where you plan to go and when you plan to return, its no fun to have to get up in the middle of the night and go out looking for someone, even though now days we can locate you on your cell phone, its most likely going to be a while depending on weather before you can be rescued, especially if we have to go in on foot to do so, and cell phones don't always work in the wilderness. the best rescue is self rescue learn to do it. you know its always around dusk or later when a call comes in to go find somebody! and the area could be over 200 sq miles so a plan of what you expect to do is important. when people risk themselves they also put the rescuers at risk, so play safe and cover your bases. by doing so the life you save might be yours and mine. equipment, communication and knowledge all essential.
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"Chicken of the Woods" is good this time of year. Hope they all recover quickly and continue their hobby of hunting mushrooms.
Reminds me of the old saying..."There are old mushroom hunters and bold mushrooms hunters, but there are no old, bold, mushroom hunters".
"Chicken of the Woods" - now that's a new one to me! Interesting.
never heard of chicken mushrooms??? it is bright orange and it grows on dead fallen trees.
i think it has feathers on it
I'm with you heather meadows. I wish them a speedy recovery as well and that they continue with their hobby. The cruel "humor" at the bottom of these articles sometimes leaves me feeling as sad as some of the stories with unhappy endings. I'm glad they are safe and sound.
Hunting mushrooms in Oregon with only a knowledge of Oklahoma mushrooms is a recipe for painful death.
OMG! Memories of my youth! My Dad was an avid mushroom hunter and only ate the wrong one a couple of times! Once my Mom and Sister ended up in the emergency room and my Father was just dumfoundeed . HE ATE MORE THAN THEY DID....
the "hedgehog mushroom" is considered to be a choice edible and fairly easy to identify
http://americanmushrooms.com/edibles8.htm
WHAT were they thinking....?
Who knows? They are family from Oklahoma, it could have been a "Love Triangle", or just shopping for some good shrooms
Who said they were thinking?
I don't see much funny here. How did they get their injuries? And are their two dogs ok? The article is lame.
they got hurt attempting one of the positions on the shirt
jb2222 You got the funnyest comment ....I laught my heart out....I thought that I read, they were a family,father mother and son, isn't it......?
Not sure to call them very lucky people, or very idiotic people.
Let me help you: idiotic. Check out the guy's shirt. Any more questions?
Looks to me that's just a version of The Pillow Book. What's idiotic about that?
What? You would wear that shirt, Matilda?
It's idiotic.
beach --- That shirt is no worse than a bikini !!!
Matilda-she's talking about the husband's shirt... doh!
EDawg ------ I know about the husband's shirt & I was talking about the husband's shirt. Check out my post, above. # 5.2
Matilda Tuscany: You NEED glasses, girl! Or a classier upbringing. lol...
Vigilant, what are you talking about? I can see without glasses that the wife is well-endowed and the husband is wearing an interesting T-shirt. I got all that from the beginning. I commented on the T-shirt in my first post. (5.2)---What did you not get???
Matida
I'm assuming you're a female and i think it's pretty cool you have no problem with the man wearing a multi sexual positions t-shirt. Most people thinks it's tacky or cheesy and wouldn't want to be caught dead wearing that shirt in public. It's great for a gag at a party or gets together. I only ever see teenagers wearing a shirt like this but not on an adult person. That's why a lot of people are having fun and laughing at this guy outfit.
baah!
too many prudes here.
More often than not the news coming on the vine are about deaths, murders, catastrophes, coruptions and bad economic with total gloom and doomed.
People are having a good laugh with this wonderful funny news story, so enjoy it for the time being.
John I love your picture. I guess they forgot to leave the breadcrumb trail back to the jeep. I'm glad they were found in one piece.
Matilda , did you know the t shirt (pillow book) was of sex positions?
I think this family needs money and are using this as a gimmick.
200 yards away from help.........
Okay. Let's get this straight. Matilda and most of the rest of us are talking about the guy's shirt, although the woman's leaves a little room for comment, too.
Seriously, Matilda, you think it's classy for a anyone to wear that shirt? How old are you? 12?
Appears to be a bunch of trolls out on this story. To say one who gets lost is an idiot is an idiot thing to say. Ever been out in the wilderness bub? Do you have a built in compass that will never get you lost. You are pathetic and so are the rest our you bitching about a t-shirt. Has nothing to do with the story. How the hell would you feel if it was your family member who got lost? What a putz, do us a favor and sit in your chair and cheer on your favorite sports team, seems like that is all people like you do well beside trolling.
Lighten up, LynyrdSky. Sheesh! It's a funny story. Human interest, you know. Get it?
Lynyrd, I MAPPED the roads those clowns got lost on, and when I went up there I had the LATEST maps from ALL the represented government authorities, plus a DoD level GPS system and a LOAD of equipment to extricate myself if need be. And, I saw mushroomers, all over the place, although MOST had Oregon or California plates. And I can say, ONLY an idiot wuld go off into the would with out being prepared to find their way out, and failing that enough food and water to last for at least three-four days, along with telling their hotel or somebody where they hell they were going.
That's just basic common sense, AND I learned THAT in FLAT Minnesota.
fake <<<<<<<>>>>>>> Acsomeo!!! Of, course, I knew! ***
I hope they enjoyed the shrooms
GPS don't go into the woods without it, you can rent them for under 10 bucks a day
A compass works well enough for me. I own a few outright.
If any one of them had had a sports whistle, it would have saved them from making national news.
A new Detailed MAP is way better than GPS here in Gold Beach. People have got really lost and have died using GPS here in Curry County. The logging roads literally change sometimes daily, my almost retired father makes some of the roads in the mountains here. Get a map at your nearest Forest Service Department where your harvesting permits.
Never give a map and a compass to a Lt, unless you really want to get lost. LOL
......Never go into the woods without a GPS.....That is an excellent idea unless you cannot get a signal. Also, a lot of people cannot program their remote controls at home much less operate a GPS. It looks and sounds easy but it is not nearly as easy as one thinks. You would think that out of three people that at least one would havea cell phone.....however, we run across the signal strength issue again. i think a map and compass are your best bet but you must know how a compass works to get out of a mess with one of those. I guess best advice, if you do not know where you are at and are liable to get lost, stay at home.
Do these people look like they would know how to use a GPS ??
If the roads change almost daily, how is a map going to help - might hurt - and a GPS makes that worse? I'd trade the map for the GPS - but favor the compass as one guy says. I have been in that position in strange woods - it takes a very little preparation for the compass to be very useful. Sure, the map and GPS would help too, but the compass is the key. Now before someone goes all 'hater' on that, I'm not saying you can be an expert map maker or end up within feet of your departure point on the first try without good training and experience, BUT, you surely can get close and in a position to be rescued.
I also agree with the person who called the article lame - too many missing details to really appreciate the story - must have been a slow news day and they posted this without enough to make it a fair story, much less a good one.
I echo the prayers for their healing and that they hopefully learn well from this one. Coast Guard, unsung heros really - derided by the regular military yet they do more work on drug interdiction and saving lives than all the rest I think (close to home).
If the roads change almost daily, how is a map going to help - might hurt - and a GPS makes that worse? I'd trade the map for the GPS - but favor the compass as one guy says. I have been in that position in strange woods - it takes a very little preparation for the compass to be very useful. Sure, the map and GPS would help too, but the compass is the key. Now before someone goes all 'hater' on that, I'm not saying you can be an expert map maker or end up within feet of your departure point on the first try without good training and experience, BUT, you surely can get close and in a position to be rescued.
I also agree with the person who called the article lame - too many missing details to really appreciate the story - must have been a slow news day and they posted this without enough to make it a fair story, much less a good one.
I echo the prayers for their healing and that they hopefully learn well from this one. Coast Guard, unsung heros really - derided by the regular military yet they do more work on drug interdiction and saving lives than all the rest I think (close to home).
I've seen simple "locater" GPS systems that are very simple to operate. you push a button where you start (like car or camp), and an arrow points back to where you started from.
Even in trees a GPS will work. You mayt loose a little singal but it will still work. Now if they were lost in a large building or a tunnel then the GPS might not work.
Actually Chad, even high end GPS units (think survey equipment) can have troubles in tall dense trees (and buildings). The unit has to have line of sight of at least 3 satellites to get a fairly accurate position. I have lost signal in downtown Portland. Plus these people (if you read the article) were in an area of canyons.
What ever happened to using the sun? A gps will fail you, a compass will as well, though rarely..yet the sun has never failed to rise in the east and set in the west. Unless its a heavy overcast,socked in cloud cover or just pea soup foggy...if you have any sort of sunlight at all and pay attention to your position to it you can get yourself in and out of just about anywhere.
Even still, sunlight or no sunlight how bout a compass? or simply and just as effectively..... what about telling some one where you are headed and when you plan to be back? Give somebody a starting point at least in case you don't return. Things like this can be avoided just by taking some extremely simple precautions based on good old common sense.
Its hard to be found if no one is looking where you are or where you should have been. The problem with woods navigation is that with sun,compass,map or gps you rarely if ever have the opportunity of walking in a straight line for any length of time at all. The landscape will always dictate the route you have to take and what that requires is paying attention to your surroundings ,and looking up and ahead and behind you, more often than down at your feet. Simple awareness will get you in and out most of the time,if you don't panic...but if you do then its usually all over. Its sounds to me as if they were never more than a few hundred yards or more from where they went in and probably no more than a mile away from anything the entire time they were out there. Unless they just went into a blind panic when they got turned around started on some forced march in the wrong direction...how far would they have gone on some leisurely mushroom hunt anyway? I don't know about that region,but i have spent a lot of time in southeast Alaska,similar terrain and timber and once you get inside those old growth forests they are just a mass of dead-fall and snags,all mossed over and fern-ed in and i guarantee you that's where they got their injuries. Walking logs over God knows what in and under the understory beneath them,slip off and you may just come in contact with the ground,or you may fall right into a log pile full of snags or right into some ravine. And of course if you get yourself into a bunch of blown down timber that's been there awhile and all over grown, it will rival and surpass the most challenging and dangerous obstacle course man has ever conceived of.
Anyway they had no business stepping off the beaten path and i highly doubt they will do that again.
HEY! HOWIE 7.6 !!!!! Judging from that shirt he's sporting I doubt that any of them could even spell GPS... lol. NO SOUP FOR THEM!
Dave-1729659
A proper map contains more information than just where the roads are. A GPS will point you in the right direction, which is certainly better than nothing, but it won't show you what is between you and your objective. A map AND compass (one is not of much use without the other IMO) will help you avoid lengthy delays if there is impassible terrainin your line of travel as you'll be able to navigate around obstacles before you run right into them.
Troyzkoi is dead on correct, that why I was mapping roads for the feds in Curry and Coos counties about 4 years ago. I had a VERY accurate GPS for where I was, but the ROAD that was supposed tobe there wasn't always there - many roads are abandoned or redone by logging companies and so on. That's why the FIRST people I saw in both counties were the state and federal forestry officials, and bureau of land management, to get THEIR LATEST maps of the roads, complete with washouts, slides, fallen trees and so on. In fact, I contributed to THEIR databases by reporting in slides and washouts I came across that they hadn't marked yet - I was way UP and OUT in the back country. And, I had a fully equiped Suburban with a winch (that I needed a few times) and supplies.
And, you can't count on the weather - third day I was in Curry, I'd gone up the Gold river and then turned off to the south to go up a forestry road. When I had left Gold Coast, it was cloudy. BY the time I'd climbed to 1500 feet it was light rain. as I passed 2400, feet the rain turned to snow and was QUICKLY accumulating I climbed another 150 feet, the snow was four inches deep on the road and falliing fast, so I stopped, turned around and headed back down the mountians. By the time I got to Gold Coast, they were STILL dry. That happened to me a number of times, and being useed to the idea that snow ONLY can get worse, I always cut my losses and retreated.
Ask my wife about your statement that the sun never fails to rise in the east and set in the west. She WAS survival trained when she was in Army Junior ROTC. Then she met me and moved to Alaska. In Alaska the sun rises rughly in the east and sets roughly in the west depending on what time of year it isIt can be rising in the NE and setting in the SW.
And I bet they have ONE HELL of a story to tell us all about their mushroom "picking" experience. Seriously though, glad that everyone was found safe and for the most part sound. Not the usual ending we hear from in "lost in the wilderness" stories.
It's a good lesson in staying put so you can be found, assuming anybody knows you are lost.
3 mushroom hunters, 0 lighters ($2), 0 compass ($5-10), 0 gps ($30 used), glad thousands of $ in taxpayer money and public servants hours were available in this instance
Hear hear...
If I ever am missing, I hope my family can find a photo of me wearing just as nice of a shirt.
I think those skeletons are playing a game of "rape tag" made popular at the New Ulm elementary school.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46237726/ns/local_news-minneapolis_st_paul_mn/t/new-ulm-elementary-school-responds-disturbing-recess-game/#.Ty272YET2pU
@aaron....LOL! Why couldn't they just crop that picture?!?
Even I could digitally edit the picture my paint program in about 5 minutes.
I had one of those shirts... about 20 years ago.
sometimes the "Journalists" aren't anywhere as observant as they would like you and I to think. Always question what they do or say, no one is above reproach.
Great comment! LOL!
Journalists are not suppose to alter photo. Cropping is one thing, and the excuse is to make it fit the space. Photoshopping, airbrushing, and such alterations can seriously affect your employment status.
Can y'all imagine actually wearing a shirt like that IN PUBLIC?!
I didn't even notice the shirt until others mentioned it. I'll bet he's embarrassed. On second thought, probably not. He wore it.
oops. commented above before I saw these posts.
I did not notice the shirt until I read your comment! That is too funny. You would think the editors would have at least made the shirt fuzzy to keep little eyes from seeing the characters. It is not difficult to notice the positions of the characters. You can pick your friends but not your relatives!!
Oh my God, Aaron, that is hilarious. I had to go back and check the shirt after your comment. Very Klassy!
Aaron..thanks! i cant remember the last time i laughed so hard :)
The scary thing is that if they would have died that picture would be on display between the caskets at the memorial service! Hilarious. Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't even look at the picture.
have to go with a few others on here, the shirt stays. if you find it offensive, maybe you are just too old.
Good eye Aaron. That is sooo hilarious! Agreed--Thnx for pointing that out!!
Like some others, until mentioned, I failed to realize what the characters were on the guy's t-shirt; this is where sex ed comes in in case a child sees that and asks what the significance of characters are.
they have to digitalize a nike swoosh but they can't do something about that ridiculous and inappropriate shirt?!!! No one should 1.make that shirt 2. buy that shirt 3. wear that shirt - with the ONE exception of a drunken college kid on spring break who threw up on his own shirt and this was in the dollar bin at the souvenir shop!
Brilliant! :-)
Ohhhhh snap, Aaron, I haven't laughed this hard all day! Wooooooo!
Great catch Aaron. She 's a very lucky woman. lol
Didn't notice the shirt either till I read your post.... Although I know it was a terrible ordeal.....I have to agree....Was that the only picture the family had....LoL
you also fail to realise people missing should be shown as recent and close to appearance as possible. sometimes you do not have a choice. some people like myself do not see the need to photo myself at every gathering, get-away, or what have you. its a good pic of them both, most likely from last summer/fall. you dont like the shirt, too bad. it isnt a photo contest, its a missing persons.
I'm sure they're being bombarded with protest calls and e-mails as we speak.
I dont think that is the shirt he was wearing. This looks like a photo that the family gave to the press while they were missing. It look like a vacation photo.
Had to go back and look at the shirt. The wife must be so damn proud.
Chad, I think that's the point of it all... a note to the family "please find a picture of me in a better outfit if I ever go missing". We all assume that is not the shirt he was wearing when he went missing.
mmmm shrooms
Gee, where can I buy a cool Kama Sutra shirt like that?? All 88 positions?? Not swingers are they?? Of course not.
And the wife looks pretty ^%$@ good!
yeah....being lost in the woods for six days wearing that t-shirt. I'm sure both the hubby and wifey didn't have any problem finding something to keep them both busy.
BigPaul...you think that looks good? I am feelin for ya man
BigPaul was hypnotized by them two big titties.
Hell, i see it too "bigpaul". If she'd asked me to go pick mushrooms with her i probably would've gotten lost myself,mistakenly on purpose that is.LOL.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iK0j7plz3cYH9Znf2EulmGBUP7xg?docId=b009841a477647ce8e3802c3a10eb7ae
The link includes a photo of the couple ala 2012. I have to admit I would have used the picture in the Article as well. Look like some rough times for these since the photo was taken.
wow...you guys make all those lame comments and at the same time, make fun of these people.
You're no better.
were those "Magic" mushrooms they were picking?
Yes, TSHANNY. Just what kind of mushrooms were they looking for...and did eating a few cause them to get lost?
Don't know why everyone jumps to magic mushrooms in these cases.
I just noticed his tshirt after the post.....Happy they found them alive, but what the heck......He should burn that shirt. Of all things to be photographed wearing for the world to see;)
did the photograhper even notice?
So where does it say that photo was taken AFTER they were resucued? Perhaps that happened to be one of the only photos of them both together and that's why it was used.
I keep picturing the Delicious Dish skit on SNL where Sean Hayes guests as a mushroom expert...
I doubt he was expecting anyone else to be seeing that pic. No, it's not the classiest design, but I've seen worse.
What does an Okie do with a can of Pepsi, a mushroom bucket, and a roll of toilet paper in a forest?
I know there's a joke there somewhere.............
That there is funny!
He gets lost.
He pees, she pees and they both #2, then they lost.
Beat the hell out of Texas?
Like any good Boy Scout, they went into the forest prepared for anything!!NOT!
They do the Okie Dokey and they shake it all about
They move to Bakersfield...
I once found some mushrooms and i ate it. Though, i didn't get lost in the woods for six days but i did lose my mind for six hours.
LOL Obviously you didn't eat as many mushrooms as they did.
touche'.....
I never knew that mushroom picking was such a dangerous activity! Glad they are safe now.
Mushrooms at this time of year? I am surprised. Glad they were found, though.
YEEEEHAAAaaa!Not supposed to eat the mushrooms until you're OUT of the woods LOL This is going to be one expensive mushroom hunt, with airlifts and all, and injuries.
Seriously, I'm glad they made it out ok, if not in great shape. I'd like to mushroom hunt myself, love 'em saute'd in butter, but if you don't know what you're doing, you could poison yourself real easy.
I remember when some family and friends all had to get liver transplants due to a mistaken identity of the fungi.
I knew an entire family of six die from from eating the wrong mushrooms.
There have been several cases of severe illness/death eating the wrong mushrooms, of the type found in the wild. Angel of Death comes to mind, not sure, but it put me off any wild mushrooms years ago.
These people were lucky to be found alive. Common sense tells us to stay put when lost. I guess they didn't have much of that? Just what kind of shrooms were they looking for?
Staying put and a two-dollar sports whistle would have helped a lot.
Nice shirt... classy.
AAhhh...the company of lost losers.
About time they found them, I was wondering why all the air traffic over my house. The magic shrooms grow on the coast here not in the mountains, for those wondering. I have never got lost here in the mountains in Gold Beach, but I have also lived her almost forever.
I've been locked behind a logging road gate before while harvesting mushrooms and had to sleep in my vehicle over night, but never got lost. Oklahoman's.... just kidding. Glad they were found. Hope they found enough mushrooms to pay for all the search and rescue!!!
It's an easy thing to get lost in those mountains for someone without good maps though, especially as you have overlapping authorities who ALL have unique ways of naming their roads. Man that ALWAYS drove me to distraction.
Not everyone is Grizzly Adams don't try to be
Must have been a horrifying ordeal, but they made it through, Get Well Soon...
Thank you for a positive comment. I can't understand all the mean spirited remarks. Any one can become injured and or disoriented out in the woods. I do agree with the poor taste in t-shirt remarks though.
lady in the picture got some big titties, looks like....
Nice shirt... classy.
we heard you the first time.......are we stuttering????
Oh what a classy t-shirt that guy is wearing. White trash looking for shrooms. I say bill those idiots for the money it took to look for them!
Pooter, that is uncalled for. People love mushrooms and are very grateful to those who venture out to find them FOR US. What are you expecting ? To see Donald Trump hunting for mushrooms ? Or Oprah ?
duh. my thanks go to the people who harvest mushrooms and huckleberries in bear country. So there.
Silly question, but why can't people just cultivate them?
Three letters...GPS. Take some personal responsibility and know where the **** you are and how to get home. Available for low $ used now. No excuses.
another couple used GPS here in the mountains. There were casualties. GPS in the mountains a big NO NO, go to your local forest service where you can also get your mushroom harvest permit and get a up to date MAP. GPS does not inlude the just built logging roads from year to year.
Stay put and use a sports whistle. GPS doesn't do the job. The searchers would have heard the whistle, and the threesome could have taken turns blowing it.
The wife was blowing something but i don't think it was a whistle. Hubby's t-shirt said it all.
hahahaha wolfpack, did you just get your Bobcat badge turned right side up? You sound like you are 12.
Hhahaha he has a shirt showing them doing it!!!!
careful Heyseed, I could be your father because i sorta remembered i did f@cked a moose once during my drug-filled daze.
Waterproof maps and compass are much more useful since the GPS batteries die eventually.
Seems to me t'would be simple enough to encourage people to wear tracking devices somewhat like the devices put on collars on wild animals. They might be quite expensive, but visitors unfamiliar with the territory could rent them.
It would be pretty cool if the skeletons on the t-shirt were glow in the dark, then maybe they would've been easily spotted by searchers.
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