Four officers are accused of tyrannizing Latino residents; NBC Connecticut says FBI could file more charges
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I hope the Feds bring the anvil of justice down on this POS. Unfortunately, even if he is indicted, he'll still be able to keep his pension. His pension along with the pension of the other four officers should be forfeited and donated to the hispanic victim. That would be ironic justice....
This guy should have been fired, not allowed to resign. At a minimum. You know something F-cked up is going on if the FBI has to investigate the police department of a city like Hartford.
If these 4 officers are found innocent, it will be like Casey Anthony's innocense.....
Well now he has time to go eat "Tacos" with his friend the Mayor.
I know because the police and the government really doesn't provide protection for citizens who are constantly discriminated against by corporations or by local police.
If you look at the number of people who are discriminated against because of their background, you will find that it not only happens for arrests but, also occurs even more when employers do hiring or firing.
We have to do better than this people.
I think this individual should be charged along with the mayor of the town in Conn.
Equality, Although I believe this gut is a POS, in this country he's innocent until proven guilty. What they should do is put him on administrative leave (not letting him retire) and wait for the verdict. If he's guilty, no retirement and all pay since the day of his violation (not the day of conviction but the day the occurrence(s) happen) should have to be repaid.
Bigotry, even though it is not illegal, will always rear its ugly head where it is tolerated. As evident by the actions of the governor of Arizona.
"taking advantage" of any situation is Wrong..it is quite evident in, illegal immigration & racial profiling.. the problem here is; We have Law & Leaders NOT Having the Smarts to Abide by Principles of Written Law & Written Constitution of the People..when will WE get it right ???.. i believe, when WE STOP the wild ass Behavior of Politics, the Deluge of illegal drugs/ crime etc..yup someday, someone Brave enough will bring Civility too supposedly a; A CIVIL NATION...........
Derek, did you read the article at all? It's not Hartford, it's EAST HAVEN.
Well - I can see the jury here at Newsvine has convicted the chief without the bother of a trial. What we should be asking for is Justice for all.
I also detect quite a sense of bigotry in some of these posts.
Ahhh, the throw away line. The Police Chief used what he thought was a throw away line only to realize that it was one- HIS throw away line.
Don't know much about the case, but thought a laugh might be good.
Wow. So much for the presumption of innocence. I don't remember the same level of concern over the black separatists who were intimidating voters outside the polling place in PA back in 2008. Did I miss something?
As an American with full mexican heritage I am ashamed of some of the comments made by both my fellow Americans especially those of the latinos. First why have you already convicted these officers before they have gone to court? This police chief should take some lessons from my favorite law enforcement officer Sheriff Joe Arpaio here in Arizona and take no crap from the libs, media and the Justice Dept for doing his job. These officers need to stand tall and fight for whats right I hope and pray they are exonerated. and yes my last name is Gonzalez.
@DrLarry, Tedster - if he's innocent, why is he retiring? If he has nothing to hide why is he quitting?
Well I guess it isn't just southerners who are racist. Clean your house before you come to clean ours.
Now go after fascist Joe.
Hang em' ....then let's have a trial.
that's alot easier than prosecuting the banksters for foreclosure fraud , I think 44 of the AG's in this country are setting a precident ...... the law doesn't matter .
"It was too emotionally upsetting" for him to go and simply face his own actions at a hearing........Is this because the reality of his behavior might have sunken into his skull and he is being called on it? If he stood by his actions and words (isnt that what public figures are supposed to do?) I would think he would appear at the hearing and proudly defend his actions. Being questioned about his actions would be too upsetting and thus he didn't appear? I am accountable for my actions every day at work. If I were questioned about something and called from home and reported "your questioning of what I did is too emotionally upsetting I cant face it". I would be fired immediately. (and all of my work performance would likely be evaluated and reviewd suspicisously as a result of my evasion).
It is very unfortunate that people like AZ Desertcatz, whom are of Latino heritage are the most racist against their own kind--especially by mentioning Arpaio. The guy may be claiming to do his job but man is that guy racist.
I see a lot of posters calling for vengeance against the Chief, but shouldn't we have some facts before condemning someone? And how about a fair hearing?
The racial/ethnic animosity since Obama took office seems to have gotten worse, not better since the first 'post-racial' President was elected. And now Obama intends to be even more strident in his 'class warfare' rhetoric, which is getting close to 'race/ethnic conflict' in its tone.
I think we need a President that can bring us together, not one that seems to divide us more than ever. This type of rhetoric may work well in Chicago politics, but it does a great disservice to the country.
@Mark from Bridgeport. Sorry, I did read the article and you are totally right. I basically went and sped typed, and by the time I realized my mistake, it was too late to edit. Anyway, points the same, but thanks for pointing out my duh moment. And that's not sarcastic.
and you know this how?
FFrauline: Did you even read what the police were accused of?
These police weren't protecting citizens of East Haven, they were using their authority to intimidate local residents and shake down businesses--those are criminal acts no matter what ethnic group those on the receiving end belong to. Save your 'only doing their duty' defense for public officials who actually deserve it, rather than trying to paint these criminals as victims just because they're wearing blue, and because you think minorities are less deserving of the protection of the law.
Captain goes down with ship. This guy is smart to jump this ship before he get's fired and loses his retirement over the actions of some bad seed under him.
He could try the Obama plan. Blame it on Bush.
Frisky Faulinide, I think your logic is sooo misguided. How about targeting the criminals instead of targeting a particular race or ancestry group. When there is a serial killer lets round up all of the white people and put them in concentration camps...Is this your distorted logic. In America we realize there are good and bad people of all races, genders and religous groups. Stereotyping may make YOU feel better because you can condemn a group of people based on the actions of some who don't represent the whole. Are all Catholic priest pedofiles? See how silly that sounds. Think before you write.
hs321: Speaking of gratuitous attacks on minorities...
Am I a bigot? if I want to pay my bills and not yours.
Clearly, he was allowed to resign not only so he could keep his pension, but so he would be shielded from prosecution for any malfeasance during office.
And then cry wolf D Dirty dog!
Hey Frisky Frauline, that is part of the problem with racism. If the police want to find an issue with someone they will. How is it that in all areas of the US the crime is alway higher with minorities areas then the white areas? The answer is easy. Its because the police are not looking at the white population. You will never find crime in a all white neightborhood because the police don't go their. However, most of the white collar crimes, sexual predators, child abuser, and rapist are committed by white people. Also crimes committed in those areas are seldom covered by the media which give the impression that crime is rarely committed by whites. I am not saying we don't have a problem with illegals in this country because we do. I just saying all the problems are not caused by illegals. Its seem more a more people are blaming all negitive issue in america on illegals which in fact the whole issue with illegals was caused by white americans.
FF: The majority of crimes are committed by whites. I don't hear anyone saying that police can't look among minorities for criminals. But that isn't what these cops were doing. They were illegally victimizing members of a particular minority group, in many cases in flagrant disregard of "probable cause." Some of those people they victimized may, in fact, have been guilty of crimes, but that in no way excuses the crimes these "officers of the law" committed.
Can't we all just have some tacos and try to get along?
Frisky,
The quotes are from the first time this story hit, but they help to make my point.
Only if that person is some sort of shade of brown. Take a look at my picture, I'm about as "white girl" as you get, and I've definitly done my fair share of driving around at 3am. Never once has I, or any other who looks similar to me (that I know of at least) been pulled over simply because the officer wanted to know what we were doing out and about.
Proactive police work isn't profiling, it begins with community outreach and building trust with your citizens. This is the opposite, if true, of proactive police work. You can not take a protected class (i.e. race, religion, national origin, gender) and use it as the sole reason for stopping someone. If a crime has been committed and a witness has given a discription which includes a protected class, than you can stop members of that class, who fit that description, not just blanketly stop everyone who's the same color.
Yes, but only on Pedro and Tyrone, not everyone who shares their race.
Because, those specific Italians had committed a crime! Now, how would you feel, if the cops were randomly stopping anyone with a vowel at the end of their name and questioning them about possible links to the mafia???
You continue to make my point. He is allowed to retire, he is allowed to take the 5th, he is allowed to quite a number of things that are legal, yet you apparently don't believe in our legal system and the "presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty". Neither of us know the real facts here, so we should go by the law instead of vigilantism.
You are welcome to your opinion, regardless of how wrong and racist it is. AZ gave his opinion which pointed out a truth that you obviously can't see. Apparently you are another one that does not believe in due process.
Derek: Cool & thanks... it's nice to see civility on the Vine!
Here in Washington DC, you would not believe how racist the local news has become. Every evening all you hear about is how our african american brethren are killing each other. And when it is not african americans, it is non-documented resident aliens from central america! Honestly, when are the giong to expose the real killers?
CPBinDC: Which "real killers"? The Asians? I here that there has been a marked rise in Mongolian-on-Mongolian violence in SouthEast...
(Why, yes... that IS sarcasm.)
Frisky,
Well that's fantastic, and you are more than entitled to your opinion. However, our Constitution disagrees with you, and, might I remind you, having the right to an opinon, doesn't necessarily give you the right to act upon it. My tax money pays policemen to uphold that Constitution, not trample the rights of others just because we're currently going through a "manufactured boogieman" stage. I could drone on and one about ITIN numbers that ensure SS taxes are taken out of all workers paychecks regardless of immigration status. I could mention how 1996 Wefare Reform excluded undocumented people from means tested assitance, or how 8 million out of 11 million undocumented workers file income tax returns, but I'm sure you're vociferous hatred is rooted in your psychology, in which case all the facts in the world won't help.
I will let you know, however, that just because you're willing to bypass you're civil rights, the natural and legal latino citizens in our country shouldn't have too, nor (gasp) should the undocumented ones.
Well said, Sarah! All of your posts were very well written and I agree with you 100%. People like you help restore my faith in humanity.
Well thank you so much R!
So he will be retiring with a pension. WRONG!
How come every time I turn on any news feed its something about corruption or stupidity being done by a police department.
They should administer IQ tests for any cop. I know this would disqualify 90% of them but we would have a "less stupid" force.
"They should administer IQ tests for any cop. I know this would disqualify 90% of them but we would have a "less stupid" force."
Unfortunately, as recent events have proven, many police forces purposely look for those with lower IQ's. The official reasoning? Smart people would find the job unfulfillable, and would eventually quit. The likely real reason? Smart people would likely question illegal orders are less likely to discriminate. A recent Federal court ruling even confirmed this form of "employment screening" (see discrimination) to be legal.
did you ever think that they(the law enforcement community) MIGHT get tired of fighting the immense surge of unwarranted sympathy towards the ILLEGAL immigrants by the overly P/C /liberal community and just say "to he** with it?!" and quit?
Oh - are you applying the same standard as Obama did when he claimed a cop "acted stupidly" for arresting someone (Prof Gates) who appeared to be breaking into a home? There was no doubt that Gates was indeed breaking into a house - it was later found that the house was his own (charges were dropped immediately after the facts were clear). Was it just a coincidence that Gates was a black friend of Obama? Do you think a cop should ignore people breaking into homes?
When the facts are clear and justice takes it's path, we can opine. Until then, some people are making quite silly and racist comments on both sides.
Tom...
The article is correct...I think his annual pension starts at $51,000 or $54,000...town leaders wanted to fire him before he 'retired' to avoid having to write a check for over $100,000 to pay him for unused sick time and holiday time...that's right $100,000+. His retirement guarantees the check.
Only in America...but more to the point...Only in Connecticut. In this screwball state it does not matter what crime you committed, right up to stealing taxpayer money...if you sign your retirement papers, your pension, your payment for unused sick, holiday, & vacation time, and your lifetime health insurance are set-in-stone guaranteed.
As long as I can remember, East Haven has been known to have a corrupt police force. It's really too bad because I am sure there were many good cops. It just seems to be the "way it is" in some of those shoreline police forces. Not just East Haven. Look at New Haven for example! I can't begin to explain it, but maybe this will help get rid of some of the rotten apples once and for all.
Hey John this whole FRIGGEN STATE IS CORRUPT!This Teeny Tiny Minded State, reminds me of ONE BIG FAT INSANE ASYLUM!
Mr.Racist Pig Police Chief there is just the Tip of the Iceberg!
Gloria, Right On !!!.. Law & Order, presently is Like; Looney Toons, a cartoon.....
Easy Gloria , we have to see what the charges are.
FFrauline: Obviously bigotry knows no political and religious boundaries. I'm a Christian liberal...and I don't think all "conservatives" are religious bigots, any more than I think all frauleins are Nazis.
After a THREE YEAR federal investigation the police are charged we police are chaged with: "are each charged with conspiracy against rights, which carries a maximum prison term of 10 years. Some also face charges including deprivation of rights, obstruction of justice and use of unreasonable force."
FF: Congrats! You may be the first person I have ever known who feels honored to be considered a bigot.
According to the dictionary:
The government will not do anything to these officers, if you are member of law enforcement you don't have to play by the same rules as Joe Citizen. In this country we have two sets of laws one for the 1% including law enforcement and one for the rest of the citizens. A police officer can assault any citizen with taser, tear gas, pepper spray, night sticks, they can break bones cause concussions and know all along that no one can do any thing to stop it, if it is done to protect the 1% of our nation. Law enforcement has the supreme court in their pocket. This will probably be bonus time for these officers from their government funded slush funds.
No Mr. Police Racist Pig Police Chief is going to retire with a BIG FAT PENSION,probably move down south and sit on his big fat Italian Ass and sip Coronas all day!
Sorry for referring to his ass being fat and Italian but I figure since I'm Italian I can say and give it to him!
Anywho you're exactly right about these clowns trying to be above the law and not following the exact same rules as we do.
That beating people and breaking bones is a hobby,and a enjoyable past time with these clowns.They thrive on it.All those things they do to people all it is,is Glorified Legal Assault, nothing more and nothing less.
I"m Italian, and you, my dear, are a racist. Just because you are in the same "group" doesn't give you the right to make such comments!
How is calling someone Italian racist? Italian is a nationality, not a race.
come on now, Italiano's are just Like everybody else..there are the good & there are the bad/ terrible..my grandfather was Sicilian & true fully, HE WAS THE MOST HONEST PERSON, I Ever met..oh BTW, I had relatives in High Positions of Law..and they were dedicated to do the Right Thing..there was No Dirty Laundry with them.......
Mexican is a nationality not a race too.
Why are u assuming that the people being referred to are of Mexican heritage? Latinos does not equal Mexican. Latino is a very diverse group that encompasses Mexico, Central and South America.
Yeah it encompasses all those that speak latin.
Not all, its Latin America only. It doesnt include like Spanish, French or Portuguese (Nationalities).
kathy sweet heart LIGHTEN UP!
The ones you better blame racism on are the 4 Clown Pigs that were arrested and their Illustrious Police Chief.
Now that's REAL RACISM and it doesn't get any better than that!
Again Lighten Up it's good for your health!
Never seen a better description of gloria's posts.
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XDM Soeak up.
Disregard I meant speak
The irony is that now these racist cops will be in prison where many Latino prison gangs dominate - thankfully, they got pretty mouths... ha ha ha - it is wrong to be a racist and even worst to be in a position of power and be one - many of the people they put in prison their cases should be reopened - in a twist of fate they will now be house with those same people.
As former law enforcement officers, they will serve their sentence in protective custody. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if sympathetic prison guards allowed them special privileges.
...yeah, all those homo latinos in prison eat better in American prison than in their corrupt countries......that's why there are so many in there.....
Hey CarterGlass not if they wind up down in Danbury they won't! Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahqahahahahahahaha!
Alleged racist cops, George.
Many of the prison guards, I am sure, are Latino too- these guys aren't making any friends anywhere - although they will be in protective custody- meaning they will be with child rapist and other degenerates - let us hope that all of this is not what it seems - because I do feel sorry for all the lives that have been destroyed by false imprisonment and prosecutions - - the largest minority in this country are latinos (and the fastest growing) - I hope every politician with a political bone in their body gets in front of this, as Romney is in Florida ----
cops who go to jail generally arn't treated any better than any other inmate.
So you applaud, condone and encourage violent acts against these white cops by non-white prisoners while you decry 'racism'? How unexpected.
nycguy, don't use anti-gay slurs please. You are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.
Not the first time.
Chief Gallo needs to take Mayor Maturo with him. Maybe Gallo and Maturo can start up a joint venture Taco stand.
I agree. The Mayor needs to go too.
Can some one point me to where I can find what the chief and others are being charged with? I don't see much in the way of detail in this story, or the other one that was here a couple of days ago.
Bookem' Danno,
In the time it took to post your note, you could have searched "East Haven indictment" in any good search engine and gotten all the information that you might want about this matter. If that's too much trouble, here's a link to the indictment itself:
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/immigration/2012/01/criminal-indictment-of-police-in-east-haven-connecticut.html
Lune
go to courant.com or nhregister.com. front page stories. this has been going on for decades. the word on the street is that as many as 15 cops are looking at indictments. the irony for me is that one person mentioned in these stories, jon einhorn is the most honest person i know. he is the only lawyer i ever had.
Bookem' Danno.... that must be one hell of a comfortable closet you're living in to have never heard of Google before.
It's about time that city, state, and federal officials pensions be forfeited if they are found to have broken the law. If any of these officers including the chief is found guilty of any offense, then they should be let go without any compensation whatsoever.
All of them should have their pension forfeited because of their actions. It's about time we stop rewarding bad behavior.
....does that include tossing out all these illegal invaders on their arse?.......
if i had to choose between the two, i'd take those 'invaders' over corrupt police.
...yeah, so go live in Mexico and have both.......
Just remember in Mexico "duck and cover" don't look at anything and practice the blind deaf and dumb routine. Don't even hum along with narco corridas.
Commit the crime, then you get retirement to avoid charges and live off from the pension that the ppl you are abusing from? How sweet a deal for these racists morons.
If there are charges against him, he can and will stand trial wheter he retires or not. Leaving office does not cancel out indictments. Except, of course, you are POTUS!
have not been following this story but i do have a question.
were the latinos they list above in the usa legally?...if yes, jail the scum cops,
if no..they have no rights, send them back south of the border let their home country deal with them.
Why do you keep asking if the citizens of this town are legal citizens, first of all our laws are not written that only legal citizens are protected everyone gets that under the law. It shows such bias if you are citizens that live in this town I can see how this happened.
The were law abiding East Haven CITIZEN's. Read the indictment!
I agree our laws are designed to protect all who enter our country.
But if those that enter are criminals... ie. here illegally, they have no rights.
Bull***t. Everyone has human rights. If they are here illegally they are to be deported, not abused. Contrary to all the cretins out there, all people have human rights. In other words, to make it simple for you, if you see a ten year old illegal immigrant, it is not legal for you to run them over in your car for sport just because they're here illegally.
I know, it spoils the fun doesn't it?
When an officer manhandles a suspect, we say that it is police brutality...we don't ask if the person was guilty. All people, guilty, innocent, legal, illegal are to be treated humanly!
Of course if they were deported then the entire debate would be moot wouldn't it?
Dont think there were any 10 year olds involved.....just potentially illegal parents setting a fine example for their kids.
no fun with any of it .... cops are being charged with a crime and so be it....if those folks were here illegally, why didnt we charge them prior, then no corrupt cops get axed because there wiould be no one to harass...
wdentzer - you really want to go down that path? If so then you are in the wrong country. Remember "All men are created equal..." - even illegals
I'll go down each and every parth availabe to return the USA to the USA
I don't press 1 for English.... EVER !!!
PS Hitler was a man...steve....nothing equal; about that tyrant !!
What the hell does the victim's legal status have to do with police integrity? Do you realize that if they are prone to terrorize one community they would have no qualms doing it to ANY community?
By your logic they should be able to rape a prostitute or beat up a meth addict because "they are breaking the law". Do you really want a police force with that kind of power? Careful what you wish for.
Right. If they're "potentially illegal" it's OK to rough 'em up. And if it turns out they are legal, well, too bad. They don't belong here anyway.
I saw a T-Shirts for sale at a swap meet last weekend.
T-shirt # 1
The American Dream involves English
T-Shirt # 2
Press 1 for English
Press 2 to learn English
Press 3 for English.
Works for me.
Our laws are designed to protect EVERYONE within our boders, regardless of immigration status, so says the Supreme Court in various cases- Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886) Wong Wing v.U.S. (1896) and Phyler v. Doe (1982), just to name a few. You are a racist and are unAmerican. YOU and YOUR ideas have no place in this country, so please leave as soon as possible.
Wrong all persons in the US are covered by the bill of rights but if illegal turn them over to ICE who will arrange to send them back home on your dime.
The US Constitution and the Bill of Right does not "give" anyone rights, they only recongnize, enumerate and eleaborate on "inalienable" rights bestowed upon each and every individual by the creator.
As and African American I am always pointing this out! No one has the ability to give someone rights, we are born with them!
So, regardless of the your citizenship, anyone in America or anyone that comes under American control have the same rights as citizens! Privledges are different story!
your head and the jar must be up your back side
What this story and the link to the indictment fail to point out is what is the percentage of Hispanics who live in this "community" are ILLEGAL or likely to be ILLEGAL...
I did read one woman's statement that she was a CITIZEN of the CITY! That is a far cry from being a LEGAL Citizen of the USA or even a LEGAL resident (Green Card).
I don't condone police brutality but I also don't condone ILLEGAL ALIENS claiming RIGHTS of Citizens. If they are ILLEGAL and have mortgages and paying taxes then they are committing several CRIMES! It isn't an abnormality for that to happen.
Unfortunately "these crimes" are rarely, if ever, prosecuted by our Politically Correct GOVERNMENT that doesn't want to upset the President of Mexico.
Robert, those are funny t-shirts! Huh, huh-huh. I saw one that says:
Relax Gringo, I'm here legally.
1. Polices are under investigation for profiling and been racist.
That's it. Nothing else matter.
If they are vindicated, it will be because they did not do all those things.
If they are guilty, they will be charged because they committed crime.
That's it. Nothing else matter.
one question, are they legal ?
Irrelevant. Read #12.10.
Are you? The reason why I ask is... how would the cops know without targeting them in the first place? (It's much easier to be an illegal Irish or Brit than to be an illegal Mexican or Panamanian.)
It doesn't matter. Are you a racist? Then why ask? It doesn't matter what their immigration status is, they still have rights under the Constitution.
Just so everyone who is not familiar with the state of CT. The majority of the hispanic population in CT is of Puerto Rican descent. Which means that they are not here illegally. In the past few years there has been an influx of mexican and brazilian immigrants, who might not be here legally, but c'mon, they are not as large a group as me fellow Puerto Ricans. For the record, I am of Puerto Rican descent as well, and I too lived in CT. So please, before you all start with the legality of latinos in the US, know that a 4 million Puerto Ricans live in CONUS and we are AMERICAN!
Thanks,
Ace
Ace: that's true-ish. While Puerto Ricans are probably the largest number of hispanics in CT, there are also tens of thousands of illegals from other countries here as well.
The New Haven "Elm City Resident Card" is proof of that.
So if they are illegal, it's okay to harass them? Terrorize them?
By that logic, it was ok to lynch black, sell them, treat them as property because the law then said they are consider property?
Not defending the wrong doing of cops and/or mayor, etc., BUT, that being said, many and most of the attitudes towards latiino's is NOT that they are Latino's, but that they bring gangs, corruption, crime, destruction to a city or town. When they clean up their act then the attitude will change towards them. When they become productive citizens of a community then the attitude will change - the same attitude prevails with blacks - not because their skin is black, but its what they do and how they act. Unfortunately, they are their own worst enemy and they never seem to learn a danged thing. The same thing has happened in my area and I'm in the midwest so Conn. doesn't have a corner on this attitude. I see some of them walking down the street I don't want them here either BuT if they behaved themselves, were productive, then fine - BUT THEY DON'T!!! You reap what you sow!
Oh yes and there is no bad behavior among the white population so they don't need to get their act together. Didn't you just sentence two white men to death for some pretty awful acts? Does that mean all white men should be detained and profiled as possible monsters, rapists and murderers? Should all white coaches be assumed child rapists and molesters because of the white coach in PA? Your bias and racism is showing.
Tag-1286798,
In your post you are in fact defending the wrong, your prefatory disclaimer notwithstanding.
Lune
Visited one of those run-down trailer parks lately, Tag? They're becoming more & more plentiful these days. You know- the kind that's constantly in the news due to meth labs, meth dealers, & meth addicts living in or near them? Guess what color the people that live in them usually are? I've met your type...you'll find some reason to say, "But that's different."
As long as we have people that for whatever reason have given up on life & the American dream, we'll have people that have given up on themselves. And yes, those type people do tend to be their own worst enemies. Notice how the truth can be told without wallowing in racist mud, Tag?
Yeah it is different. Those trailer park meth heads are American citizens here legally and they can be harassed and beaten and pushed around and not one person will sign a petition to stop it.
Tag is talking about the "Bad Element" that seems to accompany certain minority groups. An element that most of you don't want to see in your community and neighborhood. It's a valid point. You would all be pissed-off if a bad-element moved into your quiet crime-free neighborhood and community. Especially, when they drive up and down your quite street with their old-style Mexican music blaring out of their car stereos for all of you to hear.
Just for your enlightenment, Latinos are no longer considered a minority. Define bad element. Have you checked out the registered offenders list in your area lately? I'd bet you'd be pretty surprised at what you'll find. I live in a quiet crime-free neighborhood. My neighbors two doors down are white, and their teenage kid cannot stop playing Eminem songs full blast. Is this what you are talking about?????
You haven't been to a trailer park in my area. $100k rigs special breathable carpet in front of the door under the awning and recreational activities at the clubhouse daily. Also anybody in the 60 year old range is known as a younger old person.
Thank you for seeing through this to what it really is. The cops are always around that area because that's where the crime comes from. You people screaming foul have your heads in the damn sand with this police evenly bull@!$%#!! Look at low income/IQ areas and crime rates are ALWAYS higher, period. As far as I'm concerned these cops were doing what should be done in every city in this country. Profiling works people, there is a reason major law enforcement agencies uses it. Before you call me racist read this if you've even made it this far, its not the race that determines your fate, its your culture, your parents, and most importantly your environment. The high income/IQ areas have less crime but most of you want the same police presence as the section 8 areas??? Or trailer parks?? Is that what your saying because thats sure what it looks like, cops need to be where the crime is to make a difference. We cant ignore crime statictices because you say its racist.
If you go by your thinking you would also have to toss the "Bad Element. that sees to accopany the majority groups : What about the skin-heads, or the white guys with full bodied tatoos, or the ones who wear sagging pants and carry boom boxes with loud heavy metal music with their goth girl firends with black lipstick.
Sterotyping and profiling can be done by any race against another , if that's what they are into.
Almost half of welfare recipients are white. You are not pulling your weight, you lazy bums.
2/3 of pedo are whites. you sick fu3ks.
http://childprotection.lifetips.com/cat/63573/sex-offender-statistics/index.html
Guess who do more shooting at school and work place? Yup, you crazy bastards.
Oh yeah, White also commit the most white-collar crime too. You greedy SOB.
how am i doing so far?
Van, white people make up much more than almost half of the population however. Don't do the race @!$%#, you can't win. Yes whites are most likely to be serial killers but serial killing accounts for less than 1% of all murders. Guess who is most likely to be a murder victim? A black man, guess who is most likely to be the murderer? A black man. This crap is stupid and accomplishes nothing. Latinos are more likely to bring gang violence, that is a fact. Do all latinos engage in it? Not by a long shot. I lived next to Puerto Ricans and to this day they were the best neighbors I have ever had. I don't see a hispanic man and assume he is a criminal or illegal, I don't see a black man and assume he is going to shoot me. None of that is productive thought. If these cops profiled and harrassed hispanic people they should be thrown in jail. We can't have police officers behaving this way, they are supposed to be fair.
well put f walsh, if i may add my story. i'm hispanic {yes born here} and i grew up in a home that we were not allow to speak spanish in the house. my father"s reasoning was that people would already hate me for the color of my skin. so i was supposed to speak english better than the whites, out smart them by getting educated ,and flat out be the hardest worker, but no matter where i go and what i do. i've continued to get stopped by police and the immigration to question me if i belong here. well mr. officer i do and i'm not going anywhere . LIVE WITH IT
The power of the press never ceases to amaze me. I would hate to be judged on the dumbest thing I've ever done - let alone have it ruin my career and have it become national news - and that is assuming I was guilty of having done it in the first place. Political posturing or political correctness can account for a district attorney moving forward with a case once it has been sensationalized in the news. Why do we assume the worst about people who have been accused of something? The news media panders to our worse instincts and ruins careers of people who may very well be innocent of what they are charged of. How we react to news is what makes the pandering possible in the 1st place.
They can also be moving forward because there is evidence to do so, but that piece of personal responsibility seems to be over looked.
LunKeltKar posted a link above to the actual indictment. In reading the indictment, you will see that this was not one random, isolated case, but rather an ongoing issue involving a conspiracy.
And, to sum it up even further, do the people asking if they were here legally even consider the fact that they wouldn't have contacted the authorities if they were illegal?.
so will there be any charges agaist him for breaking laws against the Latinos civil rights lets get moving people and charge this *astard
Agreed. Let's do that right after we deport all the illegals for being here, uh, oh geeze, what is the word? Oh yeah. ILLEGALLY.
Let's deport the legal ones, too. After all they're just foreigners, and therefore inferior.
Relax Gringo, LATINO does not equal ILLEGAL.
Tell me where in the article it mentions the legal status of the victims? Don't bother looking back, it's not there.
When 50% of traffic stops in East Haven happen against a community that comprises 15% of the town's population, you have a problem. This is the same town where the mayor reinstated his buddy as police chief and then when questioned how he planned to help the hispanic community he replied that he would have tacos for dinner that night. Not only should the chief quit but the mayor should too, if for nothing else for stupidity.
Educate yourself before you spout diahrrea from your mouth: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3my0wjH8bhc
I Like it!
JM thank you for that. I'm the only person in my apartment complex that isn't latino. All of the rest are legal and I think born in the USA.
JM-1992894
People like you is whats ruining this country! If you break the law you deserve to be pulled over. No one has had to suffer with racial profiling like African Americans. Now all of a sudden we criminals running across the border in groves and all they manage to do is bring the property value down!!!
Would you care to explain how standing up for people's civil rights ruins this country? I thought the bill of rights was pretty clear in the 4th ammendment with regard to illegal search and seizure. So patriot, don't listen to me, listen to the Constitution of The United States. In case you are not familiar, here it is:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
This sure smacks of cronyism.
Now here is a good one...we don't always have to post Photos! A 50-something year old white woman arrived at her seat and saw that the passenger next to her was a black man. Visibly furious, she called the air hostess. "What's the problem, madam?" the hostess asked her "Can't you see?" the lady said - "I was given a seat next to a black man. I can't seat here next to him. You have to change my seat" - "Please, calm down, madam" - said the hostess "Unfortunately, all the seats are occupied, but I'm still going to check if we have any." The hostess left and returned some minutes later. "Madam, as I told you, there isn't any empty seat in this class- economy class. But I spoke to the captain and he confirmed that there isn't any empty seats in the economy class. We only have seats in the first class." And before the woman said anything, the hostess continued "Look, it is unusual for our company to allow a passenger from the economy class change to the first class. However, given the circumstances, the commandant thinks that it would be a scandal to make a passenger travel sat next to an unpleasant person." And turning to the black man, the hostess said: "Which means, Sir, if you would be so nice to pack your handbag, we have reserved you a seat in the first class..." And all the passengers nearby, who were shocked to see the scene started applauding, some standing on their feet." SHARE IF YOU ARE AGAINST RACISM!
Come on, Jesse, you made that up, didn't you.
Commandant on the airplane??? Some story................ and exactly just that.......a story not worth repeating. Share it............... LOL.... not worth repeating !
Jesse,
Really? Did you read your post? YOUR post is racist...and better yet, that scenario does not happen in this country today.. maybe 40 years ago.. you need to wake up and get with the times because it seems like you are living in thepast. I have not any any racism at all in the last 30 years.
i feel dumber for having read that
Thanks - that was awesome!!!!
Wellie in Tennessee
HOOOOOORAY for that company!!! Did anyone check to see if the ol' b!tch had to change her drawers? I'll bet she just $hit herself!!! HAHAHAHA!
Yup that was sure a good one all right, a real back slapper. My compliments on the story line, and you made it almost believable. The key word here is almost. Now Jesse you really didn't think your story telling was that good did you ?
This story is going around the internet on facebook and other places virally ... BUT it is likely a huge lie! It never happened! The guy that started this is an African from Zimbabwe, which ironically is a bastion of black on white racism and discrimination toward whites. Many thousands of white plantation owners were either murdered or forced off their lands by tribal leaders who are nothing more than gangland thugs. This is the country where this "student" Otunana Monanba started this hoax.
So this nonsense you're perpetuating is nothing more than a racist lie itself and should not be continued. Do you think by spreading a lie that makes you a better person? Do you think that by promoting more anger and indignation based on a false and fabricated story you're not harming anything? This story is a lie essentially made up by black racists to make fools of all the people that want to take the cheap and easy way to say they're not awful and ignorant like the "50 year old WHITE woman" .... really dumb! The jokes not on you... the joke is You!
A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!!
Nice apocryphal story. Speak "the English" much??
Jesse, I'm against racism but that's just an urban legend going back to the 50's or earlier and in many different venues-buses, trains, restaurants etc etc...
TAM airlines not an American company. Therefore the owners and employees were probably entirely asian.
Bravo! Wish I had been there
Jesse Chains VanSant
As a Black man i find this joke offensive! You are a FOOL and probably a white man!!!!!! Keep your crap to your self. Us blacks don't like you any more just because you pretend to be on our side.
I can't believe people are gullible enough to believe stories like Jesse's.
Oh, wait, that's right. Obama's in office. Anything's possible
Look up that story in Snopes, its an Urban Legend, never happened, a variant of this story with the woman being from South Africa went around in the '90's now the nationality has changed. Now the one about the man who could convert water into gas was true, my neighbor's Uncle's barber knew a guy in the Army...........
I prefer the story about the black man that was fired from his job.
When told he was being fired, the black man said to his boss "I'm being fired because I'm black...and that's RACISM!"
The boss said "No. You were hired because you were black. You are being fired because you are worthless".
BAM! The truth hurts doesn't it!
What a pile of feces,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lies to prove a point are the mark of a true "democrat".
Jesse... I loved your story!
There is so much prejudice in the world today. I wish we could clean up all the hatred, our world would be a beautiful place.
All those that scream nay just screamed yeah to the filth we have to live with!
Liberal.but turning conservative;
I applaud your sentiment. You are right to be offended by this and this was my view as well. It makes the idea of curing racism as simple as a black man getting an upgrade to first class? What a bunch of nonsense... and as one commentator said, this is an urban legend with no value at all ... making fools of those that continue it and people should stop.
Unless people have been following the story all along, and this is the 1st I've read or heard of it, people can only comment by jumping to conclusions cause we're not told anything about what those cops allegedly did and we surely haven't heard but one side of the story, and not even the whole story of that side at that.
What!? You actually want details and context before you attack a group of white people?
(sarc)
Agreed. But the mayor didn't do himself any favors with his "I'm going to eat tacos" comment.
The cops are being charged with: 'conspiracy against rights, which carries a maximum prison term of 10 years. Some also face charges including deprivation of rights, obstruction of justice and use of unreasonable force."
All people should have rights wether they are from here or not, treating people like animals isn't the answer. Everyone deserves human desency, and shouldn't have their rights trampled on by people who's job it is to uphold the law. These officers should be terminated, regardless of wether or not these people are legal residents.
I agree. My rights should not be trampled on by people who come here illegally, throw garbage on the sidewalks, in the street, defecated in public, have a million plus of tattoo'd gang member children and refuse to speak a word of English after being here 20 years. That's really not right.
How long has your family lived in this country?
Its not right, but the Demswill rollover for the Latinos and pander to their community, much like the republicans are trying to do now. .. Unless they are illegals why is that community, like the blacks separated by terminology? are we not all Americans? do we have to openly segregate the race of each pollster now and get votes by race and gender? is that what its come down to now? I would fall over if they called every American just an American.. Listen to the news.. In the African American community, in the Asian community, in the Latino community, like WTF is that? Can you imagine the frenzy of the nation if the news said thing like "in white communities today" or School for white Americans, or advancement of white people, or college for white people, or NAAWP, etc... our society is continuing its process of systematically segregating the Nations people by race right under our nose.
Long enough to speak English and in brace this great country!
Racism has and always will exist, common senz! It's part of human nature. it's our ego's getting in the way. bias exists within families. It's ok! latinos and other minorities don't like white people because some white people have this superior "it's my world" mentality.
I noticed the chiefs surname is gallo, italian? it seems strange that the other BIG bigot Arapaio is also italian. How about Tom Tancredo, Colorados' bigot?
"they" forget that not long ago the hammer was falling on their head. remember WWII? Italy was at war with the u.s.a. and even before that, the mafia didn't exactly make them very loveable. I like Italians!
Even police are innocent until proven guilty.
Not this Bunch!Hell they're on Video caught with their pants down!
"Even police are innocent until proven guilty."
I'm usually a person who argues for rights of the accused no mater how guilty they are, but with police I am forced to pause. Getting a police officer charged in the first place, even with video and testimony proving beyond all doubt they did something illegal is difficult. Let alone convicting them with the blatant preference given to them in the justice system including the ability to destroy evidence that could have been used against them, special escorts by on duty officers, low/no bail, limited charges and the weight given to an "officers word". If the police were put on a level playing field in court with the rest of us I'd wholeheartedly agree with you, until then I usually police to have done at least some of what they are accused of.
So, in other words, you are as biased as anyone posting on this Vine. You don't believe in the rule of law and the presumption of innocence.
Your big but gives you away.
If you are not a US citizen, you do not enjoy the rights of a US citizen. Rather only the protections afforded to visitors are all they should receive.
Hey Like Me Now?Not to get off the subject, but what's with the Picture of Obama?
I was laughing so hard I was crying!Thanks for the Laugh!
Great Photo Shop Job!I love it!
Too true. After all, why should we spend good money having non-citizens given protection by law enforcement, etc? We can declare open season on anybody who wasn't born here.
Xenophobic much?
Gallo, you know where the buck stops.
Force all the police in this town to retire in shame, then hire an all Latino police force and see how well that works out!
i dont see any problem with the police and that comment is racist that you made
Whats racists?
Good question:
I'm betting that they are here illegally and the officers were just doing their job.
Of course OBAMA and his vote getting from the illegals, he might have put his two cents in. This is just another example of Obama's blatant racism and disrespect for the hands of law, and putting his own law into place.
And people worry about the Reps. not following the laws. Get real, its the liberal Dems who subvert the law at every turn.
It's telling that you assume President Obama would be against a criminal police force, and the stripping of civil liberties by a violent and abusive armed force. I suspect you're correct, and that President Obama would oppose any right-wing police state. At least I hope so.
I note, too, that you seem to favor a police state, where the police are outside the law and free to use violence and force against those they do not approve of, outside the law. That says a lot about you, none of it flattering.
Steven 100, you may want to read the article again. The indictment it says are all citizens.
Why would anyone think any else about Dumbama? He is as anti American and pro-illegal as they come!!!!! His Eric Holder is a joke who does nothing but subvert everything American!!!! Dumbama cannot even respect anything American and Christian, but then honors muslims by observing ramadan at the White House with some 2000 muslims in attendance........oh, I forgot, that was just a "family" gathering since he is muslim himself. Then the little fact of his illegal Aunt that lives with them in the White House, and so forth. Then his entire army of czars that are not constitutional and are there to replace the "REAL" elected department heads when his "million man civilian army as well trained and equiped as the real military seeks to impose martial law.........he has already slipped too many times.
From personal experience.........I deal with mexicans every day and for what I see, at least 9 out of every 10 are here illegally. They can't speak English, will tell you to your face they are here illegally and then will pull out our country's food stamp card to pay for their purchase...........something the hell is wrong with this picture when illegals can get government assistance when they are breaking the law.............
This is just democrats buying the vote!!!!!!!!!!!
Stevey,
PULLEEEZE!
JBAbbot - you might want to reread it yourself. It only states they are residents, and residents are not necessarily citizens. Just saying.
Just to remind all you east coast racists if those latinos turn out to be Puerto Rican they are American citizens by birth. So are latinos born in Florida, Texas, NM, Arizona and California.
So your point is ????????
I believe 99% of do not speak latin.
Aww how people get so bothered by something they can't and aren't supposed to control. If everyone would just take care of THEIR own BACKYARDS because the leaves keep falling in mine. :)