How sad. I totally blame whoever did this, but why in the world would anyone as a parent live in a trailer park where half of them have registered sex offenders residing. You stand a better chance of protecting your kids living on the street.
its not always the males, most of the time it is,.... remember a girl who was killed by her sunday shcool teacher in a trailer park in florida years ago? she was sexuallt assaulted, and strangled and put in a suitcase and dumped in a small lake in the park, by a woman. its not human not how a normal person is. so much of it happens some dont die some children live through it and never tell anyone. you owuld be surprised how it is surpresssed information. my sister and i were sexually assualted ata babysitters home. i was two she was baout four. iremeber her screams, i tried to distract him, things become cloudy, i remember when my parents came for us i thought i was going to die. my life was foched up ever since, nothing was ever ok after that day, i was onyl two. my duaghter was molested when she was a baby by a college professsor i lived with who said he was my friend, myduaghter is messed up, he was never convicted noone believed me or did anything about it. its not about registering a s a sex offeneder its about recognising the low moral status of our society; its the underlying problems we refuse to identify and correct.
Seriously?!?! Maybe you have never been that poor to understand why that may have been the only place to go with her children. I am not making excuses for her mother by any means but I can tell you that I know for a fact that there are people out there that just simply have nothing or noone to help. NOONE to help. Churches will only do so much, the government will only do so much, the communities only do so much. If the rent there is 300 a month and every place else is 400 or more and you only have 300 for rent...what is the logical answer there? Do not judge this woman for living in poverty! I see it everyday in my job. People are being forced to live in dispicable surroundings. If it really means so much then my question would be to you and all of you who are judging this woman...What are you doing to help in your neighborhood or are you just sitting here bitching about something you know nothing of?
Yeah, the great economy we were left by GW Bush and Dickhead Cheney. Bush has taken more than twice as many vacations as Obama for your information. We can thank that pig for this hole we're in. It's the Republicans breaking the backs of the middle class and making us all poor. Don't you watch TV or the news?
to those with quick answers and no understanding at all:
you very obviously have no inkling of an idea whatsoever what it is like or the many causes for a woman to be a single female parent, yet you have all sorts of opinions about it....whose gossip supplies your "knowledge"?
Obama's deficit numbers are out of this world compared to Bush. Most of it on BS spending. Remember the Omnibus bill? Remember Cash for Clunkers? Remember Obamacare?
Obama's lost job numbers far exceed anything by anyone...ever.
@NWNative: Do you actually believe what you see on the TV "news". CNN, Fox, and MSNBC develop "programing". They don't report actual news. They pander to their audience.
yes Robert. Junior numbers look better because JUNIOR NEVER PUT THE MILITARY SPENDING INTO THE BUDGET.
Did you forget all of those blank checks our republican senator used to gave him ?
What is sicking is the FACT OF YOU REPUBLICAN-OBSTRUCTIONISTS are always connecting an unrelated article with Obama. Such is your obssession with a black man ! God, please, republicans should review their sexual preferences.
With the economy the way it is right now, not suprising there are lots of poor families living in rundown trailer parks and considering themselves LUCKY to have a roof over their heads. The numbers of poor HAS increased since the wall street scumbags tanked the economy....look at the proof from the census. And the guy arrested was NEVER busted for a sex crime. Don't blame the victims family without proof. They were in all probibility TRYING to do the best they could.
All you clowns making this a forum for political debate need to expand your minds and realize this is about the death of a 9 year old baby girl. A beautiful little angel who the world will never know. Please find another vine and spew your crap & hate there. Leave this one for this little girl!
Her pain is gone, and may she feel the loving embrace of our Lord Jesus!
We are all so 'only human'. I wondered how long I would go before someone would suggest this tragedy has a political connection, be it some party/figure is responsible or some party/figure has a solution. How long have their been poor people on Earth? And we think we can outwit it with a vote? That's a sad and poor logic.
How many factors contributed to this? How long ago did those factors come into play?
1. You have a mother who can't make a living wage with three children and a step-father (i.e. failed marriage). Can we blame the economy on her economic condition or the fact that she likely had little education. But let's go back. Where did her disregard for education come from? Was it parental attitudes? Was it her familie's disconnection from a caring community? Did HER parents have anyone who cared or might help them through things? What were their education backgrounds?
2. Then you have trailer parks in general. Ever live in one? My family did when I was younger. What happens when you mix desperate women with several young kids around the only place sex offenders can possibly afford to live? And who's going to help them?
3. But then you have self-motivation. At what point did this mother become overwhelmed by everything to where she felt there was no way to further herself and future for her children? And with a special needs kid...
I can't imagine what this woman has been and is currently going through, or what her other two daughters will go through. It seems like such a vicious cycle and I haven't heard anyone, in all my life, ever put forth an sensible solution. Perhaps there just isn't one.
I like to think we start in school. That we put resources together to actually help every kid feel special, needed and part of something bigger, but our society just isn't like that, is it? It's cut throat or petty and trivial. Who is wearing the newest clothes, who's dating the cutest girl or most handsome guy, football scholarships and all that crap. Heaven help us, we need it.
The republicans have caused the economic problems that put this family in danger. If you do not believe this, you have your head up your butt.
I can tell this pig is a murderer just by looking at his face. He has facial abnormalities and some kind of head injury which in itself might have been the cause or maybe it's just be the way people look at him that triggers his rage. That rage is then taken out on anyone and anything that might irritate him. If you watch true crime shows, facial abnormalities are a common denominator amongst murderers.
and it's a sad reality that MOST PEOPLE dont believe it's as rampant as it truly is. for all the sex offenders we know, there are so many more that we have no clue about...
for all the people on here who wondered WHY this woman would live where she lives, or leave her kids with the guy she left them with...you clearly dont get it. CHILD MOLESTORS ARE EVERYWHERE! you cant live ANYWHERE and escape them. and Many are relatives....if you cant trust an uncle, who in this world CAN YOU TRUST?
you want to know why our world is so collectively messed up (in all sorts of ways)...?
I'd start with this reality....and bet all the horrors of the world branch out from child abuse, sexual and physical.
I hate to think how many of your kids have been sexually abused and are suffering silently...
You @!$%#ing morons. How could any one of you @!$%#s make this political? What a bunch of @!$%#ing morons you all are. The mother is a total @!$%# for leaving her child with this animal. I am more careful about who watches my dog than this woman was about who was watching her child/. Does this prick look like the type of person you would leave a child with? Jesus Christ, what a @!$%#ing moron. Someone should step in and take away the 15 other kids by 12 fathers this woman has and sterilize her. This douche bag should be killed-splayed open on the court house steps for all to see. What the @!$%# is this world coming to?
The mother was sick and step father sleeping? Seriously?!!!!!! I am a single father as in total custody and I would be damned if I let someone watch my kids so that I could sleep.
I don't have kids. When I first got out on my own I had no place to go and not much money. They only place I could afford was an apartment in a neighborhood where the local pizza place refused to send a delivery person. I saw a guy nearly get beaten to death by a mob on the sidewalk under my window. A few months later there was someone laying on the ground stabbed. I had to walk past him like I didn't see him or I'd be next. I did run to the 7-11 and call the police though. Some drug crazed dude went off and started shooting at cars in the parking lot. Many other bad things happened in the six months I was there. I finally decided I would rather be homeless. You can't make decisions like that when you have kids. You have to make sure they have a roof over their heads.
Parents having babies who can't raise them and goddamn men who want to have sex with them then kill them. What a hell of a note! Unfortunately, we can't seem to ever do anything about it until after the fact. Hell of a note!
Hey, priorities here. Gotta sleep so get rid of the annoying kids. Take them over to the evil pervert next door, the 'good' family friend so that he can 'baby-sit'. This is one sick Fook and the poor child, nothing can justify this, there is evil in the world and it has nothing to do with politics, despite all the nonsense posted by the political ideologues.
While 15 of the 24 homes had sex offenders in them, please note that a sex offender was not the piece-o-@!$%# who actually killed her. So while a sex offender registry would have been a good idea to glance at before moving in there, it would not have saved this little girl if zero sex offenders lived there.
@ nwnative - Why don't you get some professional help for that obvious compulsive Bush Cheney syndrome you suffer from. You babbling loons sure love to make total fools of yourselves. Get some new material fecal-head! Why not rant about something that could make a difference. Like impeaching Mr. commander and blame himself. After all, Bush has been gone for how many years now? Get a clue!
jb2222 - As of July 2011, Fort Wayne's population was about 230,000. There were 430 registered sex offenders (less than 2 tenths of a percent). While it is embarrassing to have a single offender, the percentage of "law abiding folk" in this town is quite high - free of the higher degree of crimes found in most all other of America's top 100 cities by population.
i'm usually pretty cynical about this sort of story going national but damn this one is grizzly...article states "trusted neighbor"?????who would trust anyone in a trailor park???...gun controllers take note...guns don't kill people brick weilding trailor trash kill...
I bet all the sex offenders were raised in conservative christian homes like Jerry Sandusky's.
Einstein (yeah right) our country's best and brightest economic experts predicted that it would take ten years for us to even start to emerge from the mess that the Bush administration made. Since it has only been three years and Obama has made great progress, that pretty much blows yours and all the other misinformed Fux news watchers argument out of the water.
I will never understand why people like "Einstein" don't watch or read anything that would disprove their BS therories. Censorship of one's self is the biggest crime of all. I get my information from numerous credible organizations, not just Fux news. Independent fact checkers like Politico have stated that Fux's "facts" are usually wrong most of the time.
"Einstein", I am well aquainted with wealthy republicans. I am here to tell you that you can pay dues to that club for the rest of your life but you will never be a member. You not only screw yourself but the rest of us as well by supporting these pigs. More families like the one in this story will suffer for your uninformed decisions while you sit around and pass judgement on them.
WTF is wrong with most of you posters on the vine? A little girl was beaten to death...copped up and all you can bitch about is which race does what and when? What pathetic lives you all must lead that you are all void of any empathy. What if this was your child? Would you like to see posters ranting about stupid sh!t that doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand? Grow up and learn to be caring. This is not a black or white issue. This is so tragic and senseless. I wish the vine would remove stupid comments that are clearly off topic.
You can blame the lawyers for the circus that’s about to follow this tragedy. One hundred years ago, this fellow would be swinging from a gallows in short order.
really ? you guys interested in how they are gonna punish this human turd that killed this little girl? he is actually the one that beat the child to death with a brick.....this POS needs to be put to death.....but no,.. a whole lot of flakes are gonna whine about his rights. try and get him some [help].....and tell you he had a bad childhood and he couldn't possibly be responsible for murdering this little girl.......we will just put him in prison and find anyone else we can blame.......had this been my child that POS would not be breathing right now.....but yes blame the mother ........that helps.....she did not kill her child she just made a bad decision.......it happens......she is paying the price.....of course there is no one on this board that has EVER made a bad decision......
John - why in the world would anyone as a parent live in a trailer park where half of them have registered sex offenders residing.
It's possible that's all she could afford. Then again, some people do not have the ability that others do for raising children. It's terribly sad for the kids that their mom has limited child-rearing skills.
Just love it. They have the suspect in custody and he has even confessed, yet there are MORONS who still blame the mother? And the Grandmother??? I'm a grandmother and love my grandchildren, but that doesn't mean I am a built in babysitter! The mother trusted the wrong person. Yes, she made a mistake there, but don't add to her misery by implying this TRAGEDY was her fault!
I did not blame the mother, only question her parenting. She had the ability to find out whether she was putting her children in harms way. It could have just as easily been on of the fifteen sex offenders that did this.
Here is a question for you. Knowing that you can simply look at a website to see if there are sex offenders in yours or your children's neighborhood, would you simply stand by, or try to get them moved or take them in? I know hindsight is 20/20, but there is common logic.
A state website shows that 15 registered sex offenders live in the park that numbers about two dozen homes
Those sites are a total joke. imo. In my county,(last time I looked), more than 1/3 of the 20-some registered sex offenders, shared the same address. Ends up it's the largest business in the county (food processing). And, that business is directly beside 1 day care, 1 block from another one.
Shame on all of you who are making this political. Your actions make me sick. There is a precious nine-year-old girl who is dead for nothing because some sick... I don't think there is a word in the English language that fits right... decided her life must end. It is his fault and his alone that he murdered a child in cold blood.
The mother is NOT a single parent. She had the flu & left these 3 little girls with a single male "friend" FOR A WEEK, in a pervert infested trailer park (24 trailers, 15 CONVICTED sex offenders), since step-daddy works nites & sleeps days. Wonder how well he's sleeping, now?
AnIndividual said: "to those with quick answers and no understanding at all:
you very obviously have no inkling of an idea whatsoever what it is like or the many causes for a woman to be a single female parent, yet you have all sorts of opinions about it....whose gossip supplies your "knowledge"?"
Speaking of opinions...?!? Really, AnIndividual, you didn't even pick up on the part that stated she was married? Fort Wayne is a dirt cheap town -- this dumpy trailer park advertises $100 mo rent. Its up on the north side, by the big Glenbrook Mall there. Its a pathetic choice for a couple with 3 little girls to reside in those shacks there, people talk.... and KNOW, or SHOULD know that there are multiple sex offenders packed into those 24 shacks. NO responsible parent would EVER, EVER, EVER live there!!!
Word on the street is that the story gets even worse from here.... stay tuned! Imagine the worst, and you're probably right....
John - how exactly do you "find out" if you are putting your child in harms way, until it's too late?
You do realize HE was not a registered sex offender...and there's literally NOWHERE a person can move to, and not be living amongst sex offenders?
Short of a school, there is not a sex-offender-free area...and I would suspect, this woman did not have the means to live next door to a school.
The beauty here John, is that you get to feel smug that all the people in your life...that had any kind of contact with your kids...didnt end up being rotten monsters, unbeknownst to you.
Must feel good knowing, that through no efforts of your own, your kids didnt get molested and murdered. How proud you must be!
The stats you point at are arrest stats, not conviction stats ("innocent until proven guilty" and all that...).
Anyway, they show (table 43c) that for adults (>=18yo), suspects arrested for "Sex offenses (except forcible rape and prostitution)" are white 74.2 percent of the time and black 22.9 percent of the time.
Since the black population is about 12.6 percent of the US population and the white population is about 72.4% (see here), the stats you point out indicate that blacks are way overrepresented as a percentage of the population in such arrests and whites are very slightly overrepresented.
The mother is NOT a single parent. She had the flu & left these 3 little girls with a single male acquaitance FOR A WEEK, in a pervert infested trailer park (24 trailers, 15 CONVICTED sex offenders), since step-daddy works nites & sleeps days.
AnIndividual said: "to those with quick answers and no understanding at all:
you very obviously have no inkling of an idea whatsoever what it is like or the many causes for a woman to be a single female parent, yet you have all sorts of opinions about it....whose gossip supplies your "knowledge"?"
Speaking of opinions...?!? Really, AnI, you didn't even pick up on the part that stated she was married? Fort Wayne is a dirt cheap town -- this dumpy trailer park advertises $100 mo rent. Its up on the north side, right next to the biggest mall there. Its a pathetic choice for a couple with 3 little girls to reside in those shacks there, and EVERYBODY in those places talks.... and KNOW, or SHOULD know that there are multiple sex offenders packed into those 24 shacks. NO responsible parent would EVER, EVER, EVER live there!!!
Educated Voter - "Fort Wayne is a dirt cheap town"
perhaps thats why this woman didnt have much money, and ended up living in a trailer park?
But the good news, is that we dont have to care. All we have to care about is making our own money, and hoarding as much of it as possible...and ensuring that if there's more to be had, we get more of it...even if that leaves less for others to get. And taxes, i'll be damned if I pay taxes and it helps families like this...they should just learn to help themselves, and if they cant...
well, their little girls will have to pay the price. little girls dont deserve to be able to grow up in safe environments if their parents cant pay for those safe environments.
we dont care about anyone but ourselves...it's the american way.
I agree ,and she should go to jail to ,same here in Arizona ,just vote Republican and cut all the funding to balance the budget ,put all this mentally people on Street to commit crime ,and when are people going to wake up and get involved and help but you do not trust any one to take care of your children ,to many sick people .
I don't think so. I have no illusions that it is a safe world. There hasn't been a day when I don't know where my kids are and who they are with. As far as no efforts of my own, you have no idea how proactive I am in trying to care the safety of my kids. Including discussions with them at very young ages about predators. I researched sex offenders in my neighborhood since they were born. In fact, we moved because one moved in around the corner.
So don't presume that you know me or what lengths I go to to protect my children.
It really doesn't matter where she lived. She could have been living in a million dollar home, with million dollar neighbors. That still would not have prevented her befriending and trusting the wrong person. A "friend" killed that little girl. Not some random dirtbag walking by.
You are correct, there is scum everywhere and most of the time it is impossible to tell the difference. However, living in a trailer park with 15 sex offenders is a risk in itself, including for the mother.
Educated Voter - I believe the $100 is for "lot rent". This applies to everyone with a unit on the grounds. If you do not own your trailer, you are also paying rent on the trailer, or a mortgage payment on said unit.
In addition, you are responsible for utilities.
Fort Wayne is a cheap housing market, that is for sure. But median income is quite low as well. If you go there with money in your pocket, you will be OK. But if you are starting with nothing, it is quite hard to get ahead.
The republicans have caused the economic problems that put this family in danger.
Oh, puh-leeze. This has nothing to do with money problems. The babysitter wasn't a sex offender. It could have happened in middle class suburbs as well--or anywhere. A man they thought they could trust killed their daughter. Do you think only poor people kill children?
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
Actually, this woman & her husband moved into the trailer park because her father was dying of emphysema. Her father WAS a convicted sex-offender, and Plumadore moved in to care for the old man while he was dying. Plumadore is an ex-con, with convictions in 3 states.
Tarah Souders (mother) states on her FB that she was working in Pennsylvania from Feb. to May 2011. Plumadore has a picture of Souders' 3 girls (one of the 6 yr olds is a step), that refers to them as Princesses, or some such (taken in the summer, based on background in picture of a Ft Wayne dam).... The little girl who was killed had multiple disabilities -- ADHD, PTSD(at age 9 !?!), vision, hearing, and behavioral issues.
Souders also INSISTED that it WASN'T anyone at the trailer park that would have harmed or taken the child, while also stating she sleepwalked, and had gone outside, unlocking the door to do so, while sleepwalking in the past.... Smells pretty fishy!
Yes professormarine. You are suspended for a day. For calling a spade a spade. Don't you know these NON-BIAS highly intellectual pages of MSNBC. Are for bashing the past Bush administration and republicans ONLY! Shame on you.
Marinmom - Out of your 300 + words of psychobabble... Not one mention of anything factual. Other then the same tired old broken record of blaming Fox News, Conservative Christians, It's all Bush's fault... on and on you go. And when I have brought up zero in what you whine about. And Obama's spending more then all the presidents in history is helping the economy how? And Political is your "credible organization..." Man! do you need some big time professional help. NAME JUST ONE THING THAT YOUR ALMIGHTY HALF BREED TAR BABY SAVIOR HAS DONE TO BETTER THIS COUNTRY, JUST ONE? Other then winning a bogus Nobel Piece Of Crap Prize for nothing. And upping this nations deficit by how many TRILLIONS, and probably with never ever being a solution in sight. I know, how about Obama care. Now there's a real great idea. We'll have the government run health care as good as they do everything else. You are a perfect example why you liberal loons should be keep from breeding. Spay and neuter all liberals!
Let's get this straight, the person who did this is not a sex offender. He is a friend. As I stated in the past look at everyone, not just at the obvious because 9 times out of 10, it is someone who is known to the family who committed the crime if not the family.
Not so much the step dad BUT MOM should take half of the blame for this one. I just hope the other two girls are immediately removed from her care since she OBVIOUSLY cannot care for them properly.
@Char-3714174, the "neighbor man" was their good family friend. They didn't think he would go and kill their little girl. It's like if you left your kid with someone you completely trust, you wouldn't think this would happen. It's not the parent's fault at all. The unfortunate truth, is that people are just sickening
It is the parents fault. Do you have kids stephanie? If you did you would know that most parents would NEVER do such a thing. Who leaves their kids with a guy who looks like this? How good of friends can they have been-he slaughtered and dismembered their child.
As a mother, I never would have left my daughter with a male acquaintance, especially one with a criminal record that included assault. In fact, there were few close male relatives I ever left my child with even for brief periods of time. Especially if my child had special needs as this child did-they are often difficult to care for and many people do not have the patience to deal with those special needs. Sad it has to be that way, but too often it is the mother's boyfriend or a male friend of the family perpetrating these kinds of crimes against children and it's just not worth the risk.
Why are all of you blaming the parents, the politicians, etc.???
There is only one person to blame and that is Mike Plumadore - the killer of this innocent child. He is the one who made the decision to beat this child to death with a brick and dismember her. No one else.
Who checks up on the Prison record of a friend? How do you know the guy next door to you who helps you shovel your snow, and whose kids babysit yours isn't an ex-con? You don't. They don't say how long they knew this friend. You just never know.
My heart goes out to the family of that little girl, and I pray for her soul. God bless.
Seriously, I can totally understand having to live in a dangerous situation due to financial hardships, but I think a large amount of this tragedy, and a fair amount of other tragedies like this are due to bad parenting, and I think if that was more of the focus on these types of situations, more of them could be prevented. As most of the parents on this thread echoed, you simply do not leave your kids in this type of environment just because of the flu. My Mom was a single mother with stage 3-breast cancer, which almost killed her, and even on death's door she busted her butt to take care of me. The Chemo and radiation treatment and major surgery she underwent made her so weak and sick she could barely move some days, but she still managed to get me to school most days, and made sure somehow there was food in the house and I had everything I needed. And she was a single woman who worked the night shift for most of her life with a blue collar job, so it's not like we lived a life of luxury. I was only 9-10 at the time and even now in my mid 20's I have no idea how she did it. In most of these stories it's always the parents or caretakers going out to the store to get liquor, or getting drunk, or buying cigarettes and then finding the kids " mysteriously" disappeared, or women that get with abusive men they barely know. Very few have I heard of recently where it was two great parents that stumbled into some completely unavoidable tragic accident. I say we start mandating some parenting classes.
I think MarieMom cares nothing for the little girl or her Mom, instead looking for chance to make this tragedy a political issue. This in my mind places her beneath contempt. Surely there are liberals somewhere with higher moral standards than her's,
usa is great: "Not so much the step dad BUT MOM should take half of the blame for this one"
Here's another angle to consider: What if Mom lived in total fear of an abusive stepdad, so that she felt she HAD to get the girls out of the house to appease the volatile temper of the stepdad who couldn't sleep during the day while they were there? (Not defending, but until we know what went on "behind the scenes", we shouldn't be so quick to judge and/or place blame.)
Paul, my political posts were a response to other political posts. Why aren't you whipping on them?
I'm sure you are just some chauvinistic pig that treats the women in your life like second or third class citizens. Let's face it, if you were a highly evolved man, you would be a liberal. The fact that you are not puts you on the same level as an Arab. Do your wife and daughters wear burkas?
When my idiot ex-wife ran off with some loser, I raised my son by myself. There were a lot of days that I went to work without sleep when he was little, and a lot of times I was like the walking-dead with the flu or pneumonia (a leftover from the Persian Gulf War) and I had to figure it out. I have no sympathy for those stupid parents, doesn't matter if it is a "family friend" or what, you don't just outsource the care of three kids for a few days to the neighbor.
Why in the world would you be living with your children in a mobile home park full of sex offenders?????????????????
When my idiot ex-wife ran off with some loser, I raised my son by myself. There were a lot of days that I went to work without sleep when he was little, and a lot of times I was like the walking-dead with the flu or pneumonia (a leftover from the Persian Gulf War) and I had to figure it out. I have no sympathy for those stupid parents, doesn't matter if it is a "family friend" or what, you don't just outsource the care of three kids for a few days to the neighbor.
It is the parents fault. Do you have kids stephanie? If you did you would know that most parents would NEVER do such a thing. Who leaves their kids with a guy who looks like this? How good of friends can they have been-he slaughtered and dismembered their child.
And many others:
Because she is a "good republican" who does not believe in welfare, and taking handouts, and tries her best to make ends meet on what she has. The dad who was sleeping was doing so because he is committed to his dead end job and is trying to do everything he can to keep the goddamn thing so he can provide for his family, and to not do so would cost him his job, then he may as well go be one of these dreaded and hated OWS protesters who "just want everything handed to them"
But true to form, all the high and mighty, holier than thou asshats who like to sit on high and pass judgement on others can never fricking be pleased, unless everyone in the country is forced to make decisions the way they, themselves would. The mom, sick and delirious with the flu, was likely afraid that while she was out cold, that child or another or all of them would go play outside and get snatched by one of the unsavory types around them, so she got the only person she knew and thought she could trust to watch out for them so that nothing happened to them. Unfortunately, you just never can tell with some people. Jerry Sandusky anyone? I guess all the moms should have instinctively KNOWN he was a child molester?
But thats OK, you people go ahead and keep sitting around badmouthing other people. It has a way of catching up to you. :)
"And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain." ~Jesus Christ, Matthew 5:41
If the mother was that sick with the flu and her fever was so high she would go out cold. She needed to call 911 to be taken to the hospital. If there was no one with her when she was being taken to the hospital the personal would have call social services. There would have been some responseable adult to take care of the children until she was better. If not the Dept of Soc. Sec would have been the ones to be held accountable. If you even think a child is in trouble please , please call 911. Everyone of us are responseable for the care of our next generation.
OomYaaqub, yes I have personally known some Arabs. I don't condemn them but I wouldn't want to be married to one either. I also would not want a republican American in my household either. To me, they are one in the same.
haha, you wouldn't want an Arab or Republican in your house because you think they are "the same"... you have got to be the only human on the planet braindead enough to think that. Are chocolate and vanilla the same to you also?
You must be absolutely terrified of Democrats then.
marinmom, some of the best husbands in the world are Arabs. I actually rented a room in my own home to an Arab couple. I thought she (the wife) was very lucky.
Some of the best husbands in the world are Republicans, too.
Demjo: You do realize, right, that some of the medicine people take for the flu and some pretty nasty colds are known to knock people on their ass for a while?
Danaelle: so what? These kids weren't babies. They were old enough to play quietly inside without doing something dangerous. They knew how to get themselves a peanut butter and jelly sandwich so they weren't going to starve. Tell me, did the parents send the kids to a sitter every night since they'd be asleep, and thus unable to watch them? Were they really in more danger than what actually happened?
I keep asking myself, What Would Jesus Do? I cant believe he would.forgive this monster.
One of the ten commandements is Thou Shall not Kill.. I wish his punishment would be . execute him the same way Aliahna suffered.Crush his head with a brick, dismember his body and throw him in a landfill. And this goes for any criminal. I wish our justice system would go back a couple of thousand years, if you steal, your fingers get chopped off. sexual offenders get castrated. no second chances. If the guilty would get the same punishment for the crime they committed, they would think twice before commiting a crime. A eye for a eyel
I find it very hard to believe that the mother had no clue MORE THAN HALF of the occupants of the mobile home park were sex offenders. There wasn't 1...there were 15. And ironically, the guy that allegedly killed the little girl, wasn't one of them.
lolabee,not everyone knows they can go online to look up that info.She may have just not been able to afford anywhere else.Either way though,the person being charged isn't a sex offender,it was a family friend.Sex offenders are not the only danger to our children.
Not everyone has access to internet either! Yes you can sit there and say well she could have went to the library. You do not know that. she may not have been able to afford the luxury of taking public transit across town to get to a library (just a thought here). Do not judge anyone until you have walked in their shoes. You do not know what caused this mother to have moved into this place.
Yet not a single one of those registered sex offenders harmed the child. It was the psycho "trusted friend" that did this horrible thing. He doesn't have to be registered now. He'll get life or the death penalty (I hope they have it in his state).
Matilda - THANK YOU! The initial primary investigation sent local law enforcement to the 15 registered sex offenders. The laws regulating the previously convicted offenders worked quite well. Not to say the 15 won't offend again, but with great laws like the sex offender registry in place, these people know they are being watched.
If the park manager was being paid by the State to "provide" mobile homes to these sex offenders, he/they may not have wanted any of the other tenants to know. It would have cut his income drastically, if they had complained. However, the park manager should also be chastized for allowing families to live there unaware. It should have been posted in the office, that the park was a haven for sex offenders. Then again, the State paid landlords are not going to want to give up any money/income - they can be that ruthless and endanger children in just that way.
The park manager probably does not tell anyone about the other tenants because he/she could then be charged with harassment from those tenants for telling others about his/her legal situation. There is a public website that lists all of the offenders "registered" in your area and even that list is not accurate due to those scumbags moving and not notifying law officials as to where they are currently residing. I do know that certain offenders have to place signs at Halloween that they will not be giving out candy so that the children do not go to their doors.
One has to assume that there are sex offenders everywhere-in fact that is pretty much the case-and those are just the ones who were caught, convicted and registered. Just assume they are there and act accordingly.
I've read that one in three women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime. That's a LOT of sex offenders, and I'm sure the government doesn't know about even half of them. Best to keep your kids with someone you know you can trust. I wouldn't say never leave them with a male, because that denigrates a lot of good, trustworthy men, but for goodness sake make sure you know the guy before you leave the kids with them! I would never leave my kids with anyone other than a family member, or a friend that I've known for years and seen interacting with other kids.
This little girl was beaten to death with a brick. There has been no mentioning of any sexual abuse, that story just states that sex offenders lived there. To beat anyone to death and then dismember them, that is just pure rage. This a viscious and brutal attack, and one can only hope that the first blow either knocked her out or killed her so that she wasn't aware of the brutality.
So how about laying off of the politics, that's irrelevant. A child is dead and a family is distraught. Show some respect, get more active in your community to make changes, anything but sitting back and applying blame other than to the one who killed her. My condolences go to the family and can only hope there is heaven, so her little soul can rest.
usa is great: You're correct about why the park manager would not circulate that information. Not sure about Indiana, but I was a relator in Arizona, and when someone asked about sex offenders in a neighborhood, I could not tell them. All I could do was refer them to the website.
Freedom - I had looked at other sites coverage of this and ABC are quoting the police that this murderer said that he hit her in the head with a brick while she was standing at the door to the porch and continued beating her at that spot. There is no indication in the police statements of any type of sexual assault.
Further information on this guy is that he was taking care of the girl's grandfather until he died Dec. 3rd and had lived next door to his daughter, the girl's mother. The girl's grandfather was a registered sex offender. The girls had been staying with him for a week.
And there you have it. This little girl's grandfather was a registered sex offender. Now, can we close the book on the issue of if the mom knew if there were sex offenders in the area? No need for the Internet.
Regardless, I'm not going to chastise this mother just yet. For all we know, she did the best she could with what she had; and left her children with someone she knew and trusted. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now.
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
It's sickening how many people have apparently bought into the political propaganda that being wealthy = "bad" while being poor = "victim". The fact that you are willing to excuse child negligence and a total lack of caring on the mothers behalf... because she made herself poor... is appalling.
The kids weren't babies. They were old enough to grab themselves something to eat and to play quietly if their parents asked them too. What could have been so dangerous in that trailer that the kids couldn't stay there?
I'm sure I can come up with some rather witty and thought provoking comments regarding this tragedy. But, that's exactly what it is. A horrible, tragic event. Better to leave it there and may that little girl finally know Peace. Condolences to the family and loved ones. Rest easy, little one.
Good comment American. These people that sit here and feel the need to place blame on anyone other than the perp are Azzholes. That's like blaming a rape victim for being raped. Does anyone truly think that these parents intentionally did this? I grew up in Ft. Wayne and never knew these facts about this trailer park even though it is a craphole. Some people simply can't afford the luxury the rest of us have.
In agreeance, but also add that the guy was a trusted friend NOT on the sex offenders' list. So, the fact there were offenders living there had naught to do with this. I find them to be the bottom slime of the human trough, but that's another topic....
you all are bogus in defending parents that passed off their responsibilities of their kids to a friend, and since he has a criminal background and was a trusted friend im sure the family knew that, because if they didn't then they weren't the greatest of friends. The fact the parents sent the kids off because one had the flu and the other had to sleep is CRAPPy parenting. The fact that throughout the day the guy was able to make up such lies and the mother didn't relaize her child was missing until 830pm!!! Sick or not I would have called to check in with my children and talk to them. He may not be a registered sex offender but that doesn't mean crap it could just mean he was never caught!! So you blame this guy, but it was the perfect setup by the parents neglience and they better pray he didn't do anything to those other little girls. What mother would send her special needs child to a single, grown man with no kids to babysit, especially when we see they have grandparents around?!! Say what you want, but looking at the guys picture is enough to kill any idea to trust him with my kids. Parents get just as much blame as the killer in my book, they get no sympathy from me.
Moderation, that is what I always say in these cases, look at everyone, not just the sex offenders' list. I think the media does that just to get people whipped into a fury. And what if those on the list did something like flash someone, or be a boy at 17 who dated a 15 yo and the parents didn't like it and put them on the list?
@Diva; as I'd posted below, not enough to go on yet but playing devil's advocate more or less, if this couple hit a low point in their lives or if this guy'd watched the kids before, was trusted in the home, etc... there's no way they could've known what it would do. His pic doesn't make him look small, his record doesn't include sex crimes and likely he can take care of himself.... they may have felt that in a park full of sickos (and agreed, valhall.... not all are, the stats on offenders need checked) he was the best candidate; perhaps no one messes with him.
Again, referring to posts below, I know of more people harmed by relatives than any other. Actually, it's only speculation that this was a sex crime; he may have been on or coming off of drugs and lost it, depending on the girl's behavior, etc..... No excuses for him; don't get me wrong. But, we just don't have enough to go on yet for blame other than blaming the thing that did this. Certainly, that can and may change, but for now......
Don't get me started, Diva 1922. I get so sick of people using these pages to judge, feel superior to and insult others. Your screen name is well chosen, but I suspect you are a diva only in your own mind.
We all have limitations and we don't know what this mother's were. People have accused her of being "stupid". Well, perhaps she is of low IQ. Perhaps she is physically or mentally ill. None of us has walked in her shoes so there is no way of knowing.
Please find something better to do with your time..........if you are such a "diva," perhaps you could rent a venue and sell tickets to whatever type of performance makes you a "diva".
TERELYN-Urinating in public is enough to get you on the sex-offenders' list. They're not all child rapists
Are you high? A sexual offence towards a child gets you placed on the "sex-offenders' list" urinating in public gets you $100 fine for -wait for it-public urination. Stupid comments like yours is what marginalizes the offences that this animal had committed in the past allowing him to be placed back in society.
Diva, you clearly have never had to take care of kids before. I would give ANYTHING to have a trusted friend to take care of my kids when I am sick. People say "it's just the flu, she shouldn't have passed off her kids on him", well what if she has poor immunity and was bedridden? What if she was trying to avoid getting them sick as well? Did you bother to think of that? Quit blaming parents who need help! I've read SO many articles on various sites in the past year about how mothers are doing too much, and not taking time for themselves, and end up run down and unable to take care of anyone, much less their kids. I DO NOT blame the mother in this case. I've been in her shoes, more times than I care to count, and I think everyone should be able to take time to take care of themselves. If men can take time off work to sleep off the flu, then why can't women?
Those that would place the blame on anyone but the actor, in this case or any other, are minimizing the culpability of the perp--excusing his behavior because someone put the child in harm's way. That is, in itself, inexcusable. The person to blame is the person that made the choice to destroy this young child. She already, reportedly, suffered from PTSD--Why? What happened to this child before she died. What caused her emotional problems? She, apparently had a very hard life. Why didn't her siblings come forward--they really didn't know? Or, were they terrified to death of this man? He did it and it is for his shoulders to carry. We obviously don't know all of the facts in this case. It is hard for some people to even consider that a person they know is capable of doing such a thing. Trust should and is a rare commodity these days. Still, he made the choice to do what he did and he should bear the consequences of his behavior, including all the wrath that you people can conjure up. We don't know why others did what they did. But, we have a pretty good idea why he did what he did. He is the boogie man here and no one else.
Are you high? A sexual offence towards a child gets you placed on the "sex-offenders' list" urinating in public gets you $100 fine for -wait for it-public urination. Stupid comments like yours is what marginalizes the offences that this animal had committed in the past allowing him to be placed back in society.
Juan Matamoros's full bladder is going to cost him. Twenty-one years ago, he had too much to drink, and was caught when he urinated on a street in Essex, Massachusetts. Matamoros was charged with "lewd and lascivious behavior" — which apparently got him classified as a sex offender. He currently lives in Deltona, Florida, with his wife and two young sons, but he's been ordered to pack up and move.
maybe instead of whipping their dong out to pee anywhere they please they should wait till they can get to a restroom to relieve themselves then they won't have to worry about being classified as a sex offender. If that's how some of them got themselves onto the list then that's their own fault, wouldn't feel bad for them at all. Sorry if this comment "offends" some people or makes them "angry" but it's how I feel about it.
larissa that's preposterous. That isn't the intent of the list. The purpose is to recognize convicted rapists and pedophiles. The more extraneous people you put on the list, the less useful it will be.
Wait until someone you care about ends up on the list and has is life ruined for public urination, for crying out loud.
i guess larissa is one of those extremely lucky people who have never caught themselves needing to pee in a place where there is no bathroom. Tell ya what, Larissa: Drink a few beers some time, then wait a good while, til you have to pee in a place that doesnt have a bathroom, then try to hold it til you get to one. Be sure and let us know how that works out for you :)
when I was a kid my stepdad was pretty anal about only making scheduled stops on trips. I did piss my pants once because of it :)
You can absolutely wind up on a sex offender registery for a reason that dilutes the purpose of the registery. Urinating behind a bush when you think no one is around is just one way, These lists were intended to identify the offenses that had victims, such as a pediphile or rapists create. But the person who murdered Aliahna was NOT a registered sex offender. He was a trusted family friend. The poor judgment of the parents and others in this situation is possible a contribution but they will live with that. I am a parent of 3 grown daughters and feel that I made mistakes raising mine and But for the grace of God........ Thankfully they did not encounter such a foul person as this.
They won't! In this new, improved, warm and fuzzy society we live in where nothing is wrong if you don't think it is wrong for you, and everything and everybody are expendable for a persons own convenience this guy will get a more secure life than anyone else who is actually responsible for themselves.
Are you suggesting that people should always have their kids with them and never use a babysitter? I'm guessing you don't have kids. You don't know the whole story.The only one to blame is whoever hurt the little girl.I have never met a parent that's been with their kids non-stop until they turn 18.
@Saraos - I don't think the OP is trying to say people should always have their kids with them & never use a babysitter but maybe that one shouldn't leave their children in the care of someone with a rap sheet a mile long.
Saraos -- I have. You can practically hear the helicopter blades whirring in her presence.
Her daughters are so neurotic, they should star in Woody Allen movies. The older one is practically glued to her side and won't leave the house without Mommy with her. The younger one is looking for the chance to run wild and will probably be out the door like a shot on her 18th birthday, with no idea how to survive without Mommy telling her what to do.
How sad. I totally blame whoever did this, but why in the world would anyone as a parent live in a trailer park where half of them have registered sex offenders residing. You stand a better chance of protecting your kids living on the street.
This has got to be one of the most stupid comments i've read on here. Some people have to do what they have to do to keep their children from having to live on the streets. How dare you? You sit on you high and mighty throne and judge how poor people have to try and survive? God some people are a trip!!!! Maybe you'll never have to live in a trailer park.... Mister I got it like that.
I wouldn't say, "Never leave a child with anyone else", but I would say that parents should be very cautious in who they choose to entrust their children to. Better safe than sorry.
We have a great family friend who doted on our sons from the time they were born. He asked the kids to call him "Uncle Dave" and the kids grew up thinking he was actually their uncle. One time, he mentioned that it would be fun to have our oldest son (who was maybe 6 years old) stay overnight at his house sometime. My husband told me that he was uncomfortable with that. He said that even though our friend was a great guy and seemed to be totally appropriate with the kids...why take a chance? The fact that our friend hadn't dated any women in the years that we had known him also triggered a tiny bit of concern (could he be lonely and thus give in to temptation for physical contact with a child?) Our friend never ended up proposing an actual sleepover, but we he had made our decision -- this was a positive adult-child friendship, but we would restrict their time together to just what we parents could observe.
It is not possible to keep your children safe 24/7. We cannot keep them in a bubble. There are monsters out there that prey on just this type of child--as well as perfectly normal and well raised children. The focus should be on the sub human that chose to commit this act, not anyone else. The parents will have a life time to consider all the "should haves" and "should not haves" and the perp, hopefully, will not see another day of freedom or another child for the rest of his--I hope--very short life. There are times when shanking is not the worst possible offense that a person can commit.
Sadly, they probably had no choice, it was a roof over their head with water, bathroom and a place to make food. It's so easy to say live on the street, yea with three small children that certainly would work, right. The ironic part is this guy was not a sex offender, he was a "friend" who they trusted. They were trying to do the best for their family, my heart and prayers go out to them, I thank God he confessed and can't hurt another family
Sadly, they probably had no choice, it was a roof over their head with water, bathroom and a place to make food. It's so easy to say live on the street, yea with three small children that certainly would work, right. The ironic part is this guy was not a sex offender, he was a "friend" who they trusted. They were trying to do the best for their family, my heart and prayers go out to them, I thank God he confessed and can't hurt another family.
Very well said..... Think you could get this point across to...
No choice? are you really that stupid? BOTH PARENTS WERE HOME ALL DAY!
One "sleeping" and the other one with "the flu".... and they decided that the best way for their 3 daughters to spend the christmas holiday was in an old guys trailer down the street FOR DAYS!!!
If your idea of doing "their best" for their children is refusing to take turns sleeping, or apparently doing anything at all (at Christmas noless) then you are pathetic.
Being poor does not make someone a victim... if that is the case then you should be crying for the murderer too, he had zero mouths to feed and still couldn't afford more than a trailer... he must be a saint right?
Being poor is only further evidence of the womans lack of decision making ability.
She left the kids there for a week. The murder had convictions in 3 states. He lived with her registered sex-offender father, in his trailer, until he died Dec. 3. He was a child molester.
Mother, Tarah Souders INSISTED that it certainly WASN'T anyone from the trailer park that had harmed or abducted her child. Hmmm... Then also mentioned the child would sleepwalk, opening locked doors, & go outdoors... So, despite living in a 24 shack trailer park, with 15 registered sex offenders there, mom was SURE it COULDN'T have been anyone from Sex-Offender infested MobileManor who done it!
Plumadore dismembered the little girl, then put her head, hands, & feet in gramp's freezer. The rest of her body was put in freezer bags & dumped in a local dumpster.
Something just feels so entirely bizarre & "off" about this case.... Plumadore had a summertime pic of Souders' 3 children on his FB page that refers to them as "Princesses."
Sadly, from my experience as a Correctional Officer in a Maximum Security Prison for Adult males, he will go straight to protective custody. People that harm children are scum to the other inmates and they will quickly be dealt with. Wouldn't that be some kind of justice though? Admit to the crime, go to prison and die at the hands of your fellow inmates!!! Hopefully he would finally feel what torture and pain I'm sure the child felt at his hands.
Nana...I worked as a Health Care Administrator and a nurse in a prison for five years and in an ER/OR for another 28 years. I agree with you. Not all of those in protective custody are child killers and this man's safety cannot be guaranteed--as much as those like you try to prevent anything from happening. It is possible that he won't be as safe as he thinks. I agree, most like him, PC up as soon as they hit the door. Cowardly jerks. If he thought it was a good idea then, why not explain to the general pop why it isn't a good idea now? I hope he does PC up--Dahmer did. How did that work out for him? Those lifers with nothing to lose are not going to be happy....
WHENNNNN are women going to STOP LEAVING LITTLE GIRLS WITH ADULT MEN WHO ARE NOT THEIR BIOLOGICAL FATHERS ??? I live in South Texas and we have babies and children murdered by the mother's male friend at least once a month or more. You do not leave little girls with unrelated grown men.Yes I know there are men who can and should be trusted. But every time we see one of these stories death usually comes at the hands of an unrelated male- and quite often-as crime stats indicate-the victim or the victim's family knows the killer. Sorry I am having trouble finding compassion for the mother-rather I feel blame towards her.I have been flat on my back sick in bed while still having responsibility for caring for children much younger than those three. Its doable.You don't need to farm them out to the man next door. This is part of being a mother. Sleeping night working step dad could have sacrificed some sleep to help mom out. I could never imagine having three daughters and allowing a grown man to babysit them-especially out of my sight out of my house. We have seen these same results in that type of situation way too many times. And nobody still knows what happened to Baby Lisa either.
Sadly often the person that does injury to a child is not only a trusted family friend, but a relative. In my case my biological father abused me and tried to kill me, assaulted my 12 year old aunt and then tried to kill both my mother and me. By the time I was 4 my mother was in an institution and my 18 year old aunt had custody of me, she and her husband adopted me and have been wonderful parents. The man who raised me and took care of me, taught me to read and ride a bike and not to talk to strangers, helped me learn to drive and walked me down the aisle at my wedding had no biological ties to me at all yet he is my father in the important sense of the word.
My point is, women should not leave their children, male or female, with any people, male or female, that they are not 10,000% sure of. Sadly, this woman and her family considered this man a friend and did not understand what he was capable of. The parents are not to blame for that, the scumbag that could look at the child of his friend, or any other child, and think "victim" is.
Being married and having a stable family are so "old fashioned". All the "cool kids" are staying single, partying, and popping out kids left and right. Look at Casey Anthony, Michelle Parker and countless other single moms and children of single moms. This liberal notion of "do what feels good, consequences be damned", has a price, and we see it every day in the news when another child or single mom turns up missing or dead.
WHENNNNN are women going to STOP LEAVING LITTLE GIRLS
It might not have been the mother who decided to leave the girls there. Remember she was ill with the flu. The dad may have been the one to decide to have the girls stay there so he could get some sleep for work and let his wife sleep to get over being sick.
You do not leave little girls with unrelated grown men.
What if you have no family around. (My closest family lives in another state.) This man may have have been the only 'friend' they had in that trailer park. It was stated in the story that most residences kept to themselves. The parents were trying to do the best they could under the circumstances.
The next thing we will hear is if the mom just took care of herself and not gotten sick, this wouldn't have happened. Quit blaming the parents (especially the mom) for this. They were/are doing their best in a bad situation.
They didn't just leave any child with their "friend", they left a child with emotional & physical problems with a grown-man who isn't a father/ parent himself. I don't care how sick the mother was, she could have cared much better for those three kids in a compromised state than any "friend" could have. Not only was he not family, he also has a criminal record. And since when does being sick make it impossible to check on your children while they're with someone else all day? They didn't realize until 8:30 that the child was missing?
TX kitkat, you took the words right out of my mouth!!! When you take on the responsibility of being a parent, it's not something you pass off when you are sick...especially to someone who is not in your home where you can watch them. As a parent myself, stories like this break my heart..egardless of the gender of the child, parents need to be more cautious!!! I really am curious as to the mother's reason for living in the trailer park with so many sex offenders though?! I understand the economy has hit many families in a big way, but I find it hard to believe this was her only option...
So many people have no idea of the stresses involved in how the poor live. Could you survive living like that with no healthy positive support? with no mental fatigue? Rather than spending so much time judging people for the plight they are in, why don't you volunteer or send some $$$ to your local shelters for single women with children? Why not do something good for you fellow man rather than puff yourselves up by talking your trash about them? No one is any better than anyone else - especially in America. Turn off your TV's and computers and help people rather than judge them for a change. It may make you like yourselves enough not to put others down to make yourselves feel better (which is a screwed way to live anyway)! Your choice though!
When reading: a trailer park w/ sex offenders galore, man works but sleeps all day, mother has 'flu', etc.... it's easy to wander off into mind land where drugs and all else are involved in this. TV type scenarios. But, I'm reserving any judgement of any other than the perp until more info is out there to see. I don't see where it's right to judge a parent, or parents, at a time like this when so little is known. I've known people where abuse, sexually and otherwise, is at the hands of family and extended family. Reality is, stereotyping may make some feel better, and knowledge can go a long way, but complete prevention from the disgusting amongst us is not going to happen any time soon.
For all any know, the parents may have hit a low time in their lives, had known this thing for some time, and thought 'who better to watch the kids? A rap sheet, but not for sex crimes in a park full of 'em, can take care of himself, so can take care of them, known him for a long time....'. Again, until more comes out, only judging the creature that did this, none else.
Being married and having a stable family are so "old fashioned". All the "cool kids" are staying single, partying, and popping out kids left and right. Look at Casey Anthony, Michelle Parker and countless other single moms and children of single moms. This liberal notion of "do what feels good, consequences be damned", has a price, and we see it every day in the news when another child or single mom turns up missing or dead.
What does being married or not being married...or having children out of wedlock have anything to do with this story.
The mother was married to the children's step-father (you don't get that title unless you are married) and the mother was ill and the father (step) worked nights. So exactly what does anything in your post have to do with anything in this article? A little girl was murdered by a trusted family friend while being babysat.
And to everyone else...Where exactly did the parents do anything wrong? Had the mother been working during the day and the father been sleeping because he worked nights, the kids would have still been at a babysitter. I don't feel like this is a case of bad parenting or anything like that, just a sick creep who murdered a little girl and did lord know what else to her before and after. Everyone needs to get off of their high horses, but obviously none of you have had to make such difficult decisions that offer your family the best possible protection all while being vulnerable because of circumstance. We do not know any about this family besides the facts that the mother was sick with the flu (which, BTW, if you ever had the flu you would know that you aren't able to care for yourself, let alone anyone else..a pretty serious illness) and the step-dad was asleep after working nights. That is all we know about them, so let's stop playing the blame game and calling them bad parents. We do not know their situation. Blame lies with one man, and he confessed already.
The comment about "maybe she didn't know how many offenders lived in her trailer park" or "she didn't know how to check the internet website" sounds like another excuse for lack of thinking. Just as how many years has birth control been advertised on TV and there are still people out there getting pregnant cause they "didn't know". Give me a break. There are billboards all over this nation drawing attention to sex offenders. If she couldn't read, I am sure someone would have pointed it out and read it to her. I have never been sent to stay with someone else when there was flu in our house (as a child). Even when my mother had major surgery, we all stayed home. My sis and I were ten. We took care of the dad and two brothers by cooking and cleaning. When I was very ill and my 2 boys were 4 and 1, I sent them to my mothers -- not to some strangers home. I did have a sitter coming to my home to take care of them while I worked, and after coming home early hearing her yell (not knowing I was there), I fired her. After that, my children went into public daycare, where I could watch them interact, be well watched by credentialed employees and where if I had any doubts, could go to someone in charge.
I totally agree with Patricia. "MelBel" you are totally wrong!
I already told my view on someone elses Response, so I'm not doing it again. I WILL tell you that I'm a mother of 26 and 21 year old daughters. I worked full-time days; my ex-husband worked nights. I NEVER farmed my children out to anyone when I was sick and down--let alone a man next door. That's just weird--"family friend" or NOT! My mother had a stroke when I was fourteen with Congestive Heart Failure. Guess what?? She didn't send us away to stay with someone else.
I'm NOT saying this is the "mother's" fault of what that "SICKO" did; however, she needs to have BETTER JUDGEMENT when raising her daughters--PERIOD!
No grown man not in the immediate family (Uncle or grandfather) should be watching your children. Doesn't anyone else think before they leave their child with some "close family friend" who looks like a @!$%#ing psycho-why would Joe Scumbag want to watch my very challenging child? If I am sick I get my ass out of bed make breakfast, pack lunch, take my kids to school, pick them up, make dinner, do homework, and put them to bed. Why? Because that is what parents do, not send them to go stay with some nasty ass in my trailer park. Being a parent is a 24/7/365 rain, shine, sickness, and health job.
It amazes me how many of these comments seek to place blame on the parents, the community and any other random person/place based on the rather scant facts in this story. There is only one unassailable fact in this story and it is that this scumbag admitted to murdering that poor child. There is no way for any of you to know the circumstances, motivation or mindset of any of the individuals involved and you certainly don't know enough to pass judgement. IMHO, the only one that is truly guilty is the scumbag that did it and he should die. Everyone else is, at this point, a victim and should be regarded as such.
I think it's easy for all of you people to chime in on what you would do, or what you have done, and it's all circumstantial. you quite simply don't know what the family life is like, and doubtful any of you are social workers, psychologists, etc. It's easy to cast blame from afar, especially when there are no consequences for your accusations. I screen my kids friends and parents carefully, but that doesn't mean someone being screened is gonna always be honest or isn't capable of deception. My daughter was molested by her mothers boyfriends brothers teenage friend. It's out of my control no matter how stringently i screened my kids friends or aquaintances. So I guess it was my fault she was molested because i couldn't stop that situation from happening? You people are truly stricken with stupidity if you think that is how the world works. It's not. Every parenting situation is different, and every person is different. If this guy hadn't killed this kid, it would have been another one and likely someone would be blaming those parents too. Sad day to be an American.
They do not have enough information as to how ill the mother was. some people with the flu are so ill vomiting dizzy etc that they cannot get to the bathroom alone. We do not know the facts.I hate it when they put out stories that do not put all the facts in it. I think they do it just to get people to react and fight on the Internet.They may have known this man for a long time and he had been to their house and they trusted him. He may have told them he would watch the children, yes I can see that. As for the sex offenders in the park, the owner of the park should tell them about the sex offenders so they would keep close eye on the children, girls and boys. As for renting to sex offenders, that is a tough one, I thought they had to tell you before renting to them that they were. That is not the fact. I rented to a couple in their 50's look up past rental as they were from out of state, The only thing I received was that they were good renters and paid on time. I never thought of looking up to see if one of them was a sex offender. Not use to such things because live in the country and trusted people , a month after they were in the house, I asked the wife why was the man so nervous and didn't want to do anything he had promised to do, to get in the house. She said he has been that way since getting out of jail I asked what was he in jail for? She said that he had serviced time for sex offence , with a 13 year old girl , but he didn't do anything just bumped her on the breast. So Then I went to the sheriff's report on the Internet and found out he had done more than just bumped the child, and served a year and was out on good behavior, They had moved 5 times in the last year. I thought they were suppose to tell when renting, found out no they don't have to tell Well I was stuck for a year with them, but did go around toneighbors who had grandchildren coming to their houses during the summer and let them know not to let the girls or boys go into the woods hiking without an adult going with them as he was a sex offender. I told them to look it up and where. I hate all sex offenders, and think they should be put in jail for life with the regular prisoners or a mental hospital and never released, they are not cured and will do it again. This I know and sometimes even if you tell your mother, she won't want to believe you as the person may be their security. So you leave home as soon as you can. This man should be killed the same way he killed the young girl. That is why I say put him in with the regular prisoners as they would take care of him.
What exactly about my post was wrong? My response to Tarzan? (doubtful)
My response to everyone else? (also doubtful)
The fact that when you are sick with the flu (maybe not you cuz you're obviously super mom) for many individuals, they shouldn't be left alone themselves, barely able to move or even get themselves to the toilet, delirious from fever, etc, let alone take care of 3 young children with at least one with behavior and emotional issues. Or the fact that had the woman been at work that her children would have likely been with a babysitter anyway (since school is out for the holidays). Or perhaps I was wrong that sometimes parents have to make choices (the best of 2 evils) that unfortunately make them and their children vulnerable. These choices are made not because they want to make them, but because they have no other options...you know like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. I guess your life is so grand that you have never been put in those situations before. Or maybe I was wrong that we don't know a thing about this family and shouldn't jump to conclusions about their parenting. Maybe just maybe I was wrong that the man that should be blamed for the death of this girl should be the man who actually caused it.
Sorry, don't see where I'm wrong here. Think you could explain it to me?
BTW, also a mother. I work a full time day job and a part time night job, with a disable husband and a child with serious behavior and emotional issues. So I totally understand what this woman was possibly thinking by having someone watch her children while sick with the flu, instead of letting them run amok in her house where she wouldnt be able to keep an eye on them and possibly outside in a neighborhood full of sex offenders. She thought they would be safe with a TRUSTED friend. Why wouldn't she think they were safe with a trusted friend. Keywords: TRUSTED and FRIEND. Just because he is a man means nothing. Girls and boys are often molested by someone they know and quite often it is a male family member; uncle, brother, grand father, father, cousin, as well as all of the females in the family. Based on this article, the parents of this little girl did nothing wrong, and until I hear otherwise I will not assume they were dead beat parents just because you do.
Of course there is ANY other choice than leaving your children with a single man living next door. You have the flu, my mom had the flu, too and gutted up and took care of me the best she could when she was very sick.
Now we have to listen to all the other neighbors on the news saying, "he seemed like such a nice man." How the hell do you think these kind of people get a hold of innocents, or take advantage of stupid parents?"
It's a shame the kind of people who are allowed to breed. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Of course there is ANY other choice than leaving your children with a single man living next door. You have the flu, my mom had the flu, too and gutted up and took care of me the best she could when she was very sick.
Now we have to listen to all the other neighbors on the news saying, "he seemed like such a nice man." How the hell do you think these kind of people get a hold of innocents, or take advantage of stupid parents?"
It's a shame the kind of people who are allowed to breed. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
That is the single dumbest thing I've ever heard. So you think stepfathers are unable to care for kids? Stepfathers who have their own kids can;t be trusted with kids-by-marriage?
Oh wait. First you say only biological relatives, but LATER you practically demanded that the stepdad who works nights sacrifice sleep to watch the kids.
You obviously don't know what you want or what you're babbling about, so cork it.
TX Kitkat: Corking it is the least you can do. Getting over your obvious hatred for men would be even better.
My qualifications? A single dad raising my youngest daughter for the last decade because her mother didn't meet the court's definition of a fit parent. Many moms have trusted their daughters to come and spend over-nights with mine. I consider it the highest responsibility and greatest honor to return them to their families healthy, happy and well fed. Speaking to the manner in which I was raised, anything less than that would be unacceptable.
Don't lump us all in the same pan, and get some help. That goes for all here with that same problem of male-hatred. Get some help. You're wasting alot of valuable life in your current state and I'm still here doing the same job I've been doing for a long time now and doing it happily. Healthy or ill, through everything that life has thrown at me, and doing it as well or better than most any woman has ever thought of doing it.
Just the same, my prayers are with the little girl and her family and loved ones who are missing her horribly now. And yes, the killer should be put to death and quickly, so as not to waste any time or money on his worthless carcass...
Put me down for a little single father outrage at the suggestion that men cannot ever be trusted to watch someone else's kids. What kind of @!$%# is that? Why would you let men watch their own kids then, if we are just innately untrustworthy? It's more likely to be someone related to the child that hurts them as it is. Most of my close friends are male, and I'd trust any of them with my children. I've watched my friends kids on occasion (tho I don't really relish the role of babysitter), even before I started my own family.
How could you possibly be friends with someone, of any sex or origin, and not trust them around your children? I don't mean someone you only see at work, or a neighbor who's name you barely recall, but a guy you've known for years, had over to your house, etc?
If a single 39 year male willingly offers to babysit 3 girls alone FOR DAYS!!!! which involves staying overnight, bathing, changing clothes etc. knowing he is the only adult present... you should instantly be worried. No non-relative male with honest intentions would accept that situation because he would know that if he upset one of the girls in any way all she would have to do is make a sexual allegation against him and his life is basically over at that point.
What sad and disturbed world do you live in that every adult male is incapable of watching children because they have an irrational fear of being accused of a sexual offense, and every prepubescent girl has a histrionic personality disorder?
"WHENNNNN are women going to STOP LEAVING LITTLE GIRLS WITH ADULT MEN WHO ARE NOT THEIR BIOLOGICAL FATHERS ???"
Children are safest in full-time cohabitation with their biological fathers. Women are safer married than single. Women are responsible for the super majority of child abuse, but that isn't a surprise because young children spend nearly all of their waking time with adult women.
Your question should be "When will parents realize that children are safest with their biological parents and much less so with any other adult."
pjam09 wrote "No non-relative male with honest intentions would accept that situation because he would know that if he upset one of the girls in any way all she would have to do is make a sexual allegation against him and his life is basically over at that point."
This is true. A man's life is ruined with a false allegation. Don't date single moms, and don't go out of your way to do women favors for the mere reward of a smile and some kind words.
Sadly the mother will likely continue to live off of society and remain a breeder. Remember she will portray herself as a victim not the dumb ass she is.
I think it's easy for all of you people to chime in on what you would do, or what you have done, and it's all circumstantial. you quite simply don't know what the family life is like, and doubtful any of you are social workers, psychologists, etc. It's easy to cast blame from afar, especially when there are no consequences for your accusations. I screen my kids friends and parents carefully, but that doesn't mean someone being screened is gonna always be honest or isn't capable of deception. My daughter was molested by her mothers boyfriends brothers teenage friend. It's out of my control no matter how stringently i screened my kids friends or aquaintances. So I guess it was my fault she was molested because i couldn't stop that situation from happening? You people are truly stricken with stupidity if you think that is how the world works. It's not. Every parenting situation is different, and every person is different. If this guy hadn't killed this kid, it would have been another one and likely someone would be blaming those parents too. Sad day to be an American.
So I guess it was my fault she was molested because i couldn't stop that situation from happening?
Your daughter being molested by an acquaintance four degrees off is not even close to leaving your children with a middle aged man who isn't a blood relation.
But I guess in your world it is so the parents are blameless.
Then I'm glad you don't make the laws, FactOfThe Matter. You would throw every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Sally who ever had any person do something to their kids that was out of their control to the wolves. And I have left my son with plenty of men who are not blood relations because he was adopted and his blood relations made life a tragedy for him. Don't be so judgemental and make blanket statements. His father is no blood relation nor has he ever been, and he is a better father than his biological "parent" that lost all rights to him. I also leave him with his adopted relatives, and many are middle aged or older men. You make such stupid comments, FactOfTheMatter.
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
It's sickening how many people have apparently bought into the political propaganda that being wealthy = "bad" while being poor = "victim". The fact that you are willing to excuse child negligence and a total lack of caring on the mothers behalf... because she made herself poor... is appalling.
How terribly sad. I can't understand how anyone can hurt anyone or anything let alone a little child. Condolences to the family and loved ones. Rest in Peace child.
I agree 100% with TX Kitkat, you don't leave your children with anyone other than immediate family members. I am lucky that both sets of grandparents live close by so whenever my husband and I have our date nights we know our three kids are safe. You can't trust just anyone with them! As parents it's OUR responsibility to protect them from the crap that goes on in this world.
TrueBlue - sometimes you can't even trust a family member - grandparents, yes; others - not too sure. How often do you hear of a family member killing a child. Too often, I'm afraid.
Not everyone is as lucky as you are to be able to leave their kids with only relatives.Some people don't have family.And I've heard about a few grandparents that have done some pretty horrible things to the grandchildren.
So if you're not an "immediate family member", you can't be trusted with other people's children? My husband and I became involved with a baby girl many years ago, no relationship to us at all, but over the years she has lived with us off and on, and we love her as much as we love our own children. She will be 16 soon, and thinks of us as her grandparents. We would NEVER think of harming her, and if anything happened to her it would rip us apart as much as if something had happened to any of our "birth" children. This child is so much a part of our lives that she is even on our cell phone contract even though at this time she lives with her father and step-mother, 2 states away. She spends summers with us, calls us regularly, we provide much of her needs, such as school clothes and supplies, and as much of her "wants" as possible, such as IPods, computers, etc. We have no hidden agenda, we just fell in love with a baby girl 15 years ago, to the point that we moved 1,900 miles away to be with her when her dad moved across country with her.
What happened is tragic, but to paint every non-relative caregiver as a danger to children is ludicrous.
Of course blame the mom. She probably blames herself and rightly so. Extremely poor judgment. Would the mom have trusted him to watch a million dollars for her. Probably not. Then she should not have trusted that man with her priceless children. I, too, have been sick, face in the toilet sick, and managed to watch three children while my husband was deployed. Took all three of us to the emergency room once and wouldn't let my babies leave my side so the nurse gave us a semi-private room. The babies slept in the bed while I got antibotics and IV fluids. My dad, whom I would trust with a million dollars without hesitation, drove eight hours to watch my boys so that I could attend an 8 hour seminar. I would not have gone otherwise. Finally, mom married a man that cared more about sleeping than watching her children when she needed him the most. As I mom, I can't excuse her from her poor judgement.
Could not sustain a large search because of "christ"mas?
Well that sounds pretty selfish to me. The almighty holiday takes precedence over looking for an innocent little girl! How sad!
And when is the leadership in Washington going to finally give everybody a new home so they don't have to live in run down trailers?
And as far as the guy who they allege did the killing, he will at least get mental health help, three free meals a day, a warm bed to sleep in, and all the s e x he could possibly want.
Washington has already tried this and look where we are....foreclosures, unside down on mortgages, etc............
Well... they really just let people borrow exhorbitant amounts of money with ridiculous interest rates and when people couldn't pay the mortgage and the original loan was nowhere to be found, they took the house.
A large search wouldn't have mattered much. I'm not saying it is a tragedy none wanted to search, but she was probably dead already by the time they wanted to organize a search but couldn't.
I left one comment 12/26. I ask if any person in the family was involved in any way with Plumadore and if Plumadore was obsessed with celebrity recently at a premiere taking a picture of themself the way Plumadore did on his Facebook page. I ask if people are intelligent enough to figure out others that they not only telegraph their intuition, but communicate it to the relevant others in usable form when it matters to those that can prevent the tragedy from happening. I ask if there are other girls, children or others in the park that could be in danger and if there is anyone anywhere that may need protection will all of you with the gift of intuition and being able to read situations communicate what you perceive when it matters to persons that can work to avoid unnecessary harm.
It's time to arrest the parents. They are ultimately responsible for their kids. Mom has the flu so she leaves her emotionally challenged little girl with some so called "family friend" in a mobile home park known for sex offenders? I'm so sick of these parents blaming the fact that they neglected their kids on boyfriends and family friends.
You had kids and you should care for them regardless to illness and fatique - that's what parents do! Obviously these two were not prepared. Why were they living there in the first place.
Again, the parents should be charged with neglect - they left three little girls in a mobile home park known for sex offenders. He then leaves them alone to go and get a cigar? Who's responsible for these kids?
The Dad was at work. I can't even believe you would call that neglectful, and as far as why they were living there, where should they have been? I would love to know the location where nothing bad will happen, so please do tell, I would LOVE to live there. If the mom was sick to the point where she physically could NOT care for her kids why is it wrong to put them with an able-bodied adult. People sometimes cannot see the true nature of another person. It's horrible to vilify someone for not being a mind reader
Laura1122--are you kidding me? "she physically could NOT care for her kids why is it wrong to put them with an able-bodied adult." WELL, GUESS WHAT? That "Abled-Bodied" adult male DIS-BODIED a young 9 year old female. SOMETHING WRONG HERE??? "Family Friend!?"
We've ALL been sick so bad we can't get out of be hardly, but you know what??? YOU DO IT ANYWAY!
I will be very surprised if Social Rehabilitation Services doesn't step in to investigate why she sent her children over to a strange man's home--don't give me the "family friend' crap!
I don't think that she should be "Charged" or punished for something another person DID! This IS CLEARLY his fault! However, she needs Parenting Classes to further protect her two other daughters, and for Crying Out Loud--if you are that bad off, keep your legs closed and/or get on Birth Control!
Gee, Karol, I guess you've never been sick a day in your life. If the mother had kept the kids there but had exhausted herself to the point of collapse, and the place had burned down as a result, we would have asked "why didn't she ask for help?" GET A FRIGGEN LIFE and quit blaming someone for needing help! Everyone needs help once in a while, and it's people like YOU that prevent them from getting that help!
Then I hope you never do, because the parents never had any hand in the death. Your comment, Karol, makes you look like what you called the parents. Let's arrest everyone who ever had anyone do anything to their children. The world would be a better place . . . Well, I disagree. How can you look into the future and see what a very trusted friend will do? Please tell me. Of course, I don't think I'll get an answer from you because you'll see how foolish you look.
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
It's sickening how many people have apparently bought into the political propaganda that being wealthy = "bad" while being poor = "victim". The fact that you are willing to excuse child negligence and a total lack of caring on the mothers behalf... because she made herself poor... is appalling.
He's been charged with murder, no mention of a sex assault. It's horrible either way, but with a child with ADD and emotional problems, it's a possibility he lost his temper and beat her to death.
For everyone who blames the parents for living with sex offenders, do you know the background of all your neighbors? The laws protecting their privacy make it possible for them to live among you with only law enforcement and school officials knowing who they are.
I think that many times these days, when some young "lady" has a child, they don't know who the biological father even is. That's a bad start out of the gate. I see this often around here( I am from Indiana).
o'really, I don't know what state you live in, but in Colorado (at least in my city) the police and sheriff's departments both have an online registry that list the names, addresses, and pictures, along with a brief list of their crimes. Of course the list is not complete due to people not registering as they should, but for me, this list gave me a little piece of mind when we were house hunting before my daughter was born. As far as the rest of my neighbors, I say hi and bye, maybe wave, and leave it at that...I think this, like many stories like it, is proof that some parents have children and just really don't know how to handle the responsibility. This little girl had emotional problems, so to leave her with someone who maybe doesn't know or understand what to do if she has an "episode" is like an open invitation for something to happen!
If found guilty, this man deserves to be cut alive in tiny pieces for what he did to this little girl. I have been praying for this girl to be found alive and I am completely crushed right now hearing the horrible news. The world has really really gone crazy!
I believe in My God and HE AGREE'S with RACO!!! It is TIME 4 A different approach! Imprisoning Mindless ANIMALS is JUST THAT>>Where's the JUSTICE for DEAD! DISMEMBERED!! ALIAHNA LEMMON???
It's so sad. Such a beautiful child. So vulnerable with her disabilities trying to make her way through life. Such evil persons who could do this to children like her. Prayers to her family. God has a special place in heaven for her where noone can ever harm her again.
"God has a special place in heaven..." Tell yourself whatever fairy tale you need to tell yourself to pretend this was all part of some grand plan that has a happy ending for a tortured, beaten, and dismembered little girl.
You would be dumbfounded to find that in an 'average' neighborhood there will be a majority of the residents that have criminal backgrounds, are preditors, or have some kind of mental issue that is a negative to the rest of the population in that area. However, we can only blame outselves by not forcing the cities where we live into exercising more strict rules for people that are slum lords and don't care who or what they rent to as long as they get their monthly rent check. They don't investigate these people - if the have the $$$$ they move in and the rest of the neighborhood can suffer for it! You end up calling the cops because of their activities when, if the city would pass 'nuisance property' rules against landlords that rent their houses to worthless people then you are going to have victims! It goes with the territory!
How could she not know, I lived in a subdivision with $150,000 homes as a single mother with two children. A neighbor came to me one day and asked if I knew that 3 sex offenders living in our neighborhood. I told her I had heard there was one living 3 houses from me but hadn't been able to verify it. She said she didn't know about that one and came back to me a week later and said that makes 4.
Your neighbor better watch out. She's invading the privacy of those poor sex offenders. My neighbor did the same thing and was sued by the sex offender. This is in New Jersey, home of Megan's Law.
Only the worst offenders are listed on the website. The rest are just known to law officials and schools. When my daughter's private school passed along a flyer they received to the parents, they got in a lot of trouble.
You can readily look it up in California, the state provides a website that overlays their residences on Google Maps...
Incidentally.... they tend to cluster together.... I'm sure so the perverts can swap kiddie porn.
Many are harmless though, if you look at the details on some, they were 18 and convicted of having sex with the 16 year old girlfriend or something 10 years ago, hardly a menace to society, but there are plenty that are absolutely dangerous and should have to wear GPS monitors 24x7 for the rest of their days.
There are no excuses for the mother and step-father. None. The mother had a cold(as reported by local television stations) well tough. Every parent who has ever lived has not felt well and 99.999999999999% don't ship kids off to non-related felons. Being poor has nothing to do with this: being stupid and/or selfish has everything to do with this tragedy.
For the sake of the other two girls, I hope CPS gets them to a responsible relative or a safe foster home. The truth will come out and the sympathy for mom will evaporate. Mom handed her three innocent children over to a monster in what was gross negligence at a minimum or reckless indifference which is what I believe. Get the kids out of mom and stepdad's hair at all cost but don't go to family for child care because they already don't like the situation in that home, that's my theory. How long were the girls with this felon? Days?
A non-related male "family friend" with three felony convictions, who slept during the morning anyway when he was supposed to be "caring" for these three girls. Really Mom!? Really!? That was your best option!? Sounds like the easiest and the one that would bring you less questions than asking family or even your female friends(stepdad probably doesn't let you have those, they make you think for yourself).
My thoughts of condolence go to the victim and her two little sisters only. Live with this your entire lives mom and stepdad.
This is exactly what I'm saying then the mother proclaims the girl had mental and phyiscal problems. Then why in sam's hell would you want someone else caring for her??! It sounds to me like the parents were tired of being parents and often passed off their responsibilities. If the stepdad were sleep tell the kids to play in their room and be quiet or watch tv! No one can tell me that he was a trusted friend of the family and no one knew he had a record, people don't let that kind of gossip go by! I mean I just don't understand why if the kids were over there from what was said a whole day at least neither parent called to check on those girls, and that the mother didn't see or hear him drive off to go to the "gas station" and we know he left those girls longer than he said and the fact that the younger sisters didn't speak up leads me to believe they were witness to what happened to their sister or he terrified them into saying nothing. Because of all the little kids I know they tell EVERYTHING! These parents disgust me and like you said everyone will tell all their secrets. This has nothing to do with race, gender, it all comes down to bad parenting, ignorance, and bad decision making skills. These people defending this mother nad making millions of excuses for leaving her daughters with him are sad and pathetic. I mean look at this man's face and tell me that's someone you would want caring for your child when you can see he looks sketchy!
It absolutely amazes me how some people are able to rush to judgement in all these cases. They assume that they have the inside skinny on the whole situation because they read a couple of paragraphs in a news story and that makes them judge, jury and executioner!!!! Wow! They can "assume" exactly what went on because they see all, know all, think all..
Unlike these "stupid" parents, the above have never felt the difficulty of trying to find a home they can afford. Unlike these "stupid" parents they have never had to deal with a situation they feel unable to handle. Unlike these "stupid" parents they have never made a stupid call because they were too sick or too poor to do what is right. The only blessing to this is that as the world turns, the judges have built some karma they will have to live down. They will have to learn what it is like to be condemned by a community for what they didn't know and couldn't choose.
I could point out that in spite of living in a trailer park that also houses 15 "sexual offenders" it wasn't the sexual offenders that did this to the child. So why is that an issue here? Why is it an issue that needed to be reported in the news story? Because that makes the parents guilty by the association?
Much as I hate to point it out, even "felons" that have served their time in prison have the right to live under a roof. So you make stricter laws to keep them out of your precious neighborhoods and since most of us don't care to freeze out in the cold you have abetted the "felon" to commit another crime to survive. How very kind of you. Surface logic at it's worst.
Before you do your little rush to judgement, try to imagine the pain, guilt and suffering that family is suffering. There is nothing you can say to condemn them that they aren't already saying to themselves. So don't load up your bandwagon with more shame for them. It really isn't affecting your private little world. Just admit you don't know it all and back off.
Sadly rational is not found here. Some here would like to blame some political cause for all the ills of the world. People, get over yourselves! A little girl is gone and a family destroyed. Save the hatred for another day please.
Before you go spewing judgements over this woman's life, maybe you should all check the registry for offenders in your area. They don't just reside in trailer parks you know! They live everywhere.
Very sad for the little girl. However, grandma, it's OK for you to point out the facts and that's not judgement right? LOL. And Tammy sweetie, I do check the registry. And I sure as heck have NEVER left my kids w/ anyone other than my own parents or in laws who do are not freaks and do not have a criminal record. I know some may take offense by this, but I would never leave my child w/ alone w/ a man. Men who are too eager to help you w/ your kids are more than likely sex offenders - every alarm bell should be going off. Even when I was throwing up for 24 hours straight, I did not send the kids over to my in laws who I trust completely. Why? They are MY kids, MY responsibility. They had stomach flu too and I didn't want to burden my in laws and thought they NEEDED THEIR MOM AND DAD. No excuses here please. I hope this little angel is safe up in heaven - deeply disturbing as I have a 9 yo daughter myself.
No the mother did not have a cold. I'm from the area. Do you always believe what you people read in the papers? She's been really ill, in and out of the ER, and reportedly once even in ICU. Get off your high horse and do stuff to change the system to keep offenders off the streets, and in jail. Or how bout we do as our country used to and fricken hang the bastards. The mother had no way of knowing, and had no way of living elsewhere. Its great your lucky enough to not have to live in a sex offender neighborhood. However, the man that did this didn't even have a sex offender record. It was small criminal record out of Florida. You people need to get your facts strait before you ump on your band wagon to persecute a mother who is no doubt judging her self enough without you people adding to it. Why don;t you do a search and see if your neighborhood is any better. If it is, then great, your lucky. This mom as far as we know had no way to know he was dangerous, and she new him over 4 years. Lets face back ground checks are expensive. The only people who do those are rich rich people that think there pooh don't stink. AS for the average person, yeah there isn't money in the budget of living to spend 30 40 $ on a check that may not even show anything. Instead of attacking the mom, get off your high horses and attack the man that killed her. Attack the courts systems for not having stricter laws, attack our system for time and time again allowing these monsters to escape the system after their known as a offender. So stop acting as if you actually care, while your joining he newest which hunt! If you do care then do the right thing and go actively try to change laws, and our justice system, so these men might actually face the death penalty. To create some fear of our system. Right now, criminal think our system is a joke. Go do that and stop being losers that chat on some link about something they think they know. As for me, I do care and actively was helping to find this girl when she was missing. It hurt me so bad when I was informed she was dead, and found. Go do something better with your worthless lives!
"The mother had no way of knowing, and had no way of living elsewhere" *rolls eyes*
The latest article to come out about this reveals that this little girl's grandfather was a sex offender and the 'only reason' the mother moved in with her father is because he had emphysema and she had to 'take care of him'. What is outrageous is, around the time the mother moved in, she questioned her father about the scumbag who ended up killing her daughter!!!! She explicitly asked him if she had to worry about this vermin touching her daughter.
My sympathy for this "mother" is dwindling. If you ever have to question whether you think a man would cause harm to your child(ren) then you have NO business, NEVER, EVER EVER EVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRR leaving your children with him. Even if your child molesting father tells you he's "safe". This lady needs to have her other kids taken away because clearly, her judgement is not intact.
"The mother had no way of knowing, and had no way of living elsewhere" *rolls eyes*
The latest article to come out about this reveals that this little girl's grandfather was a sex offender and the 'only reason' the mother moved in with her father is because he had emphysema and she had to 'take care of him'. What is outrageous is, around the time the mother moved in, she questioned her father about the scumbag who ended up killing her daughter!!!! She explicitly asked him if she had to worry about this vermin touching her daughter.
My sympathy for this "mother" is dwindling. If you ever have to question whether you think a man would cause harm to your child(ren) then you have NO business, NEVER, EVER EVER EVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRR leaving your children with him. Even if your child molesting father tells you he's "safe". This lady needs to have her other kids taken away because clearly, her judgement is not intact.
Julia, the most trusted friend and sitter I have is a man. He is 350lbs and 6 foot 7. I can say that my children are very safe with him. May I remind you of the many women that have just killed their children or somehow lost them. Not all men are sex addicts or such. So, Julia sweetie...stop judging others without all the facts.
How sad. I totally blame whoever did this, but why in the world would anyone as a parent live in a trailer park where half of them have registered sex offenders residing. You stand a better chance of protecting your kids living on the street.
No offense, but why is it always white males who do this?
Maybe she didn't know about the sex offenders? She may have not had internet access. Or maybe she just had no where else to go to?
Wow, that was racist BLS. Just as racist as saying that all the people that broke into the stores to get Air Jordans were black.
However, it does seem that way doesn't it?
It ISN'T always white males that do this - look it up - there are just as many blacks that are molesters, as well, but blacks are mostly rapist!
Maybe that's all the mother could afford. You gotta love the great economy we've been given by the golfer-in-chief.
BLS
It ISN"T always white males! How many FEMALES have killed kids in the last year? And most of the time a criminal is a non-white!
Every public library has internet, and as a parent, I regularly check.
http://www.familywatchdog.us/Search.asp
its not always the males, most of the time it is,.... remember a girl who was killed by her sunday shcool teacher in a trailer park in florida years ago? she was sexuallt assaulted, and strangled and put in a suitcase and dumped in a small lake in the park, by a woman. its not human not how a normal person is. so much of it happens some dont die some children live through it and never tell anyone. you owuld be surprised how it is surpresssed information. my sister and i were sexually assualted ata babysitters home. i was two she was baout four. iremeber her screams, i tried to distract him, things become cloudy, i remember when my parents came for us i thought i was going to die. my life was foched up ever since, nothing was ever ok after that day, i was onyl two. my duaghter was molested when she was a baby by a college professsor i lived with who said he was my friend, myduaghter is messed up, he was never convicted noone believed me or did anything about it. its not about registering a s a sex offeneder its about recognising the low moral status of our society; its the underlying problems we refuse to identify and correct.
Seriously?!?! Maybe you have never been that poor to understand why that may have been the only place to go with her children. I am not making excuses for her mother by any means but I can tell you that I know for a fact that there are people out there that just simply have nothing or noone to help. NOONE to help. Churches will only do so much, the government will only do so much, the communities only do so much. If the rent there is 300 a month and every place else is 400 or more and you only have 300 for rent...what is the logical answer there? Do not judge this woman for living in poverty! I see it everyday in my job. People are being forced to live in dispicable surroundings. If it really means so much then my question would be to you and all of you who are judging this woman...What are you doing to help in your neighborhood or are you just sitting here bitching about something you know nothing of?
believer123,
Yeah, the great economy we were left by GW Bush and Dickhead Cheney. Bush has taken more than twice as many vacations as Obama for your information. We can thank that pig for this hole we're in. It's the Republicans breaking the backs of the middle class and making us all poor. Don't you watch TV or the news?
john-737278
That's a great website to find out if offenders are in your area. I was surprised, and relieved, that there weren't more around my area.
to those with quick answers and no understanding at all:
you very obviously have no inkling of an idea whatsoever what it is like or the many causes for a woman to be a single female parent, yet you have all sorts of opinions about it....whose gossip supplies your "knowledge"?
Believer,
Now let's try to get some facts straight....
Obama's deficit numbers are out of this world compared to Bush. Most of it on BS spending. Remember the Omnibus bill? Remember Cash for Clunkers? Remember Obamacare?
Obama's lost job numbers far exceed anything by anyone...ever.
Don't you read news from different sources?
If the grandmother is close, why didn't she watch the kids? Just asking.
I thought known sex offenders couldn't be within so many feet of kids?
@NWNative: Do you actually believe what you see on the TV "news". CNN, Fox, and MSNBC develop "programing". They don't report actual news. They pander to their audience.
yes Robert. Junior numbers look better because JUNIOR NEVER PUT THE MILITARY SPENDING INTO THE BUDGET.
What is sicking is the FACT OF YOU REPUBLICAN-OBSTRUCTIONISTS are always connecting an unrelated article with Obama. Such is your obssession with a black man ! God, please, republicans should review their sexual preferences.
Give it a rest,
It's a fact that Bush has taken over twice as many vacations as Obama. It's just a fact.
With the economy the way it is right now, not suprising there are lots of poor families living in rundown trailer parks and considering themselves LUCKY to have a roof over their heads. The numbers of poor HAS increased since the wall street scumbags tanked the economy....look at the proof from the census. And the guy arrested was NEVER busted for a sex crime. Don't blame the victims family without proof. They were in all probibility TRYING to do the best they could.
All you clowns making this a forum for political debate need to expand your minds and realize this is about the death of a 9 year old baby girl. A beautiful little angel who the world will never know. Please find another vine and spew your crap & hate there. Leave this one for this little girl!
Her pain is gone, and may she feel the loving embrace of our Lord Jesus!
We are all so 'only human'. I wondered how long I would go before someone would suggest this tragedy has a political connection, be it some party/figure is responsible or some party/figure has a solution. How long have their been poor people on Earth? And we think we can outwit it with a vote? That's a sad and poor logic.
How many factors contributed to this? How long ago did those factors come into play?
1. You have a mother who can't make a living wage with three children and a step-father (i.e. failed marriage). Can we blame the economy on her economic condition or the fact that she likely had little education. But let's go back. Where did her disregard for education come from? Was it parental attitudes? Was it her familie's disconnection from a caring community? Did HER parents have anyone who cared or might help them through things? What were their education backgrounds?
2. Then you have trailer parks in general. Ever live in one? My family did when I was younger. What happens when you mix desperate women with several young kids around the only place sex offenders can possibly afford to live? And who's going to help them?
3. But then you have self-motivation. At what point did this mother become overwhelmed by everything to where she felt there was no way to further herself and future for her children? And with a special needs kid...
I can't imagine what this woman has been and is currently going through, or what her other two daughters will go through. It seems like such a vicious cycle and I haven't heard anyone, in all my life, ever put forth an sensible solution. Perhaps there just isn't one.
I like to think we start in school. That we put resources together to actually help every kid feel special, needed and part of something bigger, but our society just isn't like that, is it? It's cut throat or petty and trivial. Who is wearing the newest clothes, who's dating the cutest girl or most handsome guy, football scholarships and all that crap. Heaven help us, we need it.
After reading the update I want to vomit. How the @!$%# could somebody smash a little girls head in with a brick then cut her body into pieces?
The republicans have caused the economic problems that put this family in danger. If you do not believe this, you have your head up your butt.
I can tell this pig is a murderer just by looking at his face. He has facial abnormalities and some kind of head injury which in itself might have been the cause or maybe it's just be the way people look at him that triggers his rage. That rage is then taken out on anyone and anything that might irritate him. If you watch true crime shows, facial abnormalities are a common denominator amongst murderers.
abuse begets abuse...
and it's a sad reality that MOST PEOPLE dont believe it's as rampant as it truly is. for all the sex offenders we know, there are so many more that we have no clue about...
for all the people on here who wondered WHY this woman would live where she lives, or leave her kids with the guy she left them with...you clearly dont get it. CHILD MOLESTORS ARE EVERYWHERE! you cant live ANYWHERE and escape them. and Many are relatives....if you cant trust an uncle, who in this world CAN YOU TRUST?
you want to know why our world is so collectively messed up (in all sorts of ways)...?
I'd start with this reality....and bet all the horrors of the world branch out from child abuse, sexual and physical.
I hate to think how many of your kids have been sexually abused and are suffering silently...
FYI - both parties own our current mess.
it's embarrassing watching the partisan hacks pretend it's not their party, but the OTHER one that causes all the problems.
even more so, on articles that have NOTHING to do with politics.
You @!$%#ing morons. How could any one of you @!$%#s make this political? What a bunch of @!$%#ing morons you all are. The mother is a total @!$%# for leaving her child with this animal. I am more careful about who watches my dog than this woman was about who was watching her child/. Does this prick look like the type of person you would leave a child with? Jesus Christ, what a @!$%#ing moron. Someone should step in and take away the 15 other kids by 12 fathers this woman has and sterilize her. This douche bag should be killed-splayed open on the court house steps for all to see. What the @!$%# is this world coming to?
The mother was sick and step father sleeping? Seriously?!!!!!! I am a single father as in total custody and I would be damned if I let someone watch my kids so that I could sleep.
I don't have kids. When I first got out on my own I had no place to go and not much money. They only place I could afford was an apartment in a neighborhood where the local pizza place refused to send a delivery person. I saw a guy nearly get beaten to death by a mob on the sidewalk under my window. A few months later there was someone laying on the ground stabbed. I had to walk past him like I didn't see him or I'd be next. I did run to the 7-11 and call the police though. Some drug crazed dude went off and started shooting at cars in the parking lot. Many other bad things happened in the six months I was there. I finally decided I would rather be homeless. You can't make decisions like that when you have kids. You have to make sure they have a roof over their heads.
My Newsvine Profanity Filter just caught fire and exploded. And it wasn't even turned on!!
Parents having babies who can't raise them and goddamn men who want to have sex with them then kill them. What a hell of a note! Unfortunately, we can't seem to ever do anything about it until after the fact. Hell of a note!
Hey, priorities here. Gotta sleep so get rid of the annoying kids. Take them over to the evil pervert next door, the 'good' family friend so that he can 'baby-sit'. This is one sick Fook and the poor child, nothing can justify this, there is evil in the world and it has nothing to do with politics, despite all the nonsense posted by the political ideologues.
While 15 of the 24 homes had sex offenders in them, please note that a sex offender was not the piece-o-@!$%# who actually killed her. So while a sex offender registry would have been a good idea to glance at before moving in there, it would not have saved this little girl if zero sex offenders lived there.
@ nwnative - Why don't you get some professional help for that obvious compulsive Bush Cheney syndrome you suffer from. You babbling loons sure love to make total fools of yourselves. Get some new material fecal-head! Why not rant about something that could make a difference. Like impeaching Mr. commander and blame himself. After all, Bush has been gone for how many years now? Get a clue!
must be the greatest concentration of sex offenders in the world, can only guess the % of s.o. to law abidding folk in this town
silly babysitter - just put duct tape over her mouth and put her in the woods.
When questioned, change your story a bunch but then settle on an accidental drowning.
You will be acquitted.
What, not the live in boyfriend??
jb2222 - As of July 2011, Fort Wayne's population was about 230,000. There were 430 registered sex offenders (less than 2 tenths of a percent). While it is embarrassing to have a single offender, the percentage of "law abiding folk" in this town is quite high - free of the higher degree of crimes found in most all other of America's top 100 cities by population.
i'm usually pretty cynical about this sort of story going national but damn this one is grizzly...article states "trusted neighbor"?????who would trust anyone in a trailor park???...gun controllers take note...guns don't kill people brick weilding trailor trash kill...
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So NO ONE who lives in a trailer park could possibly be trustworthy?? How did you come to this idiotic conclusion?
I bet all the sex offenders were raised in conservative christian homes like Jerry Sandusky's.
Einstein (yeah right) our country's best and brightest economic experts predicted that it would take ten years for us to even start to emerge from the mess that the Bush administration made. Since it has only been three years and Obama has made great progress, that pretty much blows yours and all the other misinformed Fux news watchers argument out of the water.
I will never understand why people like "Einstein" don't watch or read anything that would disprove their BS therories. Censorship of one's self is the biggest crime of all. I get my information from numerous credible organizations, not just Fux news. Independent fact checkers like Politico have stated that Fux's "facts" are usually wrong most of the time.
"Einstein", I am well aquainted with wealthy republicans. I am here to tell you that you can pay dues to that club for the rest of your life but you will never be a member. You not only screw yourself but the rest of us as well by supporting these pigs. More families like the one in this story will suffer for your uninformed decisions while you sit around and pass judgement on them.
WTF is wrong with most of you posters on the vine? A little girl was beaten to death...copped up and all you can bitch about is which race does what and when? What pathetic lives you all must lead that you are all void of any empathy. What if this was your child? Would you like to see posters ranting about stupid sh!t that doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand? Grow up and learn to be caring. This is not a black or white issue. This is so tragic and senseless. I wish the vine would remove stupid comments that are clearly off topic.
People may not want to talk about this but stats to bare out that white men commit these types of crime more often.
Look at to catch a predetor. These are the REAL stats not, some hate web site stats
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/persons-arrested
This sicko makes me wish I could go John Kramer on him. Then again, that maybe too good for him...
You can blame the lawyers for the circus that’s about to follow this tragedy. One hundred years ago, this fellow would be swinging from a gallows in short order.
marinmom How the @!$%# can you make this about bush you are a stupid moron.
As opposed to an INTELLIGENT moron, professor?
really ? you guys interested in how they are gonna punish this human turd that killed this little girl? he is actually the one that beat the child to death with a brick.....this POS needs to be put to death.....but no,.. a whole lot of flakes are gonna whine about his rights. try and get him some [help].....and tell you he had a bad childhood and he couldn't possibly be responsible for murdering this little girl.......we will just put him in prison and find anyone else we can blame.......had this been my child that POS would not be breathing right now.....but yes blame the mother ........that helps.....she did not kill her child she just made a bad decision.......it happens......she is paying the price.....of course there is no one on this board that has EVER made a bad decision......
professormarine, my posts were a response to other posts. Don't take out on others the fact that you can not read.
It's possible that's all she could afford. Then again, some people do not have the ability that others do for raising children. It's terribly sad for the kids that their mom has limited child-rearing skills.
Just love it. They have the suspect in custody and he has even confessed, yet there are MORONS who still blame the mother? And the Grandmother??? I'm a grandmother and love my grandchildren, but that doesn't mean I am a built in babysitter! The mother trusted the wrong person. Yes, she made a mistake there, but don't add to her misery by implying this TRAGEDY was her fault!
Diane-777259
I did not blame the mother, only question her parenting. She had the ability to find out whether she was putting her children in harms way. It could have just as easily been on of the fifteen sex offenders that did this.
Here is a question for you. Knowing that you can simply look at a website to see if there are sex offenders in yours or your children's neighborhood, would you simply stand by, or try to get them moved or take them in? I know hindsight is 20/20, but there is common logic.
A state website shows that 15 registered sex offenders live in the park that numbers about two dozen homes
Those sites are a total joke. imo. In my county,(last time I looked), more than 1/3 of the 20-some registered sex offenders, shared the same address. Ends up it's the largest business in the county (food processing). And, that business is directly beside 1 day care, 1 block from another one.
Shame on all of you who are making this political. Your actions make me sick. There is a precious nine-year-old girl who is dead for nothing because some sick... I don't think there is a word in the English language that fits right... decided her life must end. It is his fault and his alone that he murdered a child in cold blood.
The mother is NOT a single parent. She had the flu & left these 3 little girls with a single male "friend" FOR A WEEK, in a pervert infested trailer park (24 trailers, 15 CONVICTED sex offenders), since step-daddy works nites & sleeps days. Wonder how well he's sleeping, now?
AnIndividual said: "to those with quick answers and no understanding at all:
you very obviously have no inkling of an idea whatsoever what it is like or the many causes for a woman to be a single female parent, yet you have all sorts of opinions about it....whose gossip supplies your "knowledge"?"
Speaking of opinions...?!? Really, AnIndividual, you didn't even pick up on the part that stated she was married? Fort Wayne is a dirt cheap town -- this dumpy trailer park advertises $100 mo rent. Its up on the north side, by the big Glenbrook Mall there. Its a pathetic choice for a couple with 3 little girls to reside in those shacks there, people talk.... and KNOW, or SHOULD know that there are multiple sex offenders packed into those 24 shacks. NO responsible parent would EVER, EVER, EVER live there!!!
Word on the street is that the story gets even worse from here.... stay tuned! Imagine the worst, and you're probably right....
John - how exactly do you "find out" if you are putting your child in harms way, until it's too late?
You do realize HE was not a registered sex offender...and there's literally NOWHERE a person can move to, and not be living amongst sex offenders?
Short of a school, there is not a sex-offender-free area...and I would suspect, this woman did not have the means to live next door to a school.
The beauty here John, is that you get to feel smug that all the people in your life...that had any kind of contact with your kids...didnt end up being rotten monsters, unbeknownst to you.
Must feel good knowing, that through no efforts of your own, your kids didnt get molested and murdered. How proud you must be!
ken-804708,
The stats you point at are arrest stats, not conviction stats ("innocent until proven guilty" and all that...).
Anyway, they show (table 43c) that for adults (>=18yo), suspects arrested for "Sex offenses (except forcible rape and prostitution)" are white 74.2 percent of the time and black 22.9 percent of the time.
Since the black population is about 12.6 percent of the US population and the white population is about 72.4% (see here), the stats you point out indicate that blacks are way overrepresented as a percentage of the population in such arrests and whites are very slightly overrepresented.
The mother is NOT a single parent. She had the flu & left these 3 little girls with a single male acquaitance FOR A WEEK, in a pervert infested trailer park (24 trailers, 15 CONVICTED sex offenders), since step-daddy works nites & sleeps days.
AnIndividual said: "to those with quick answers and no understanding at all:
you very obviously have no inkling of an idea whatsoever what it is like or the many causes for a woman to be a single female parent, yet you have all sorts of opinions about it....whose gossip supplies your "knowledge"?"
Speaking of opinions...?!? Really, AnI, you didn't even pick up on the part that stated she was married? Fort Wayne is a dirt cheap town -- this dumpy trailer park advertises $100 mo rent. Its up on the north side, right next to the biggest mall there. Its a pathetic choice for a couple with 3 little girls to reside in those shacks there, and EVERYBODY in those places talks.... and KNOW, or SHOULD know that there are multiple sex offenders packed into those 24 shacks. NO responsible parent would EVER, EVER, EVER live there!!!
Educated Voter - "Fort Wayne is a dirt cheap town"
perhaps thats why this woman didnt have much money, and ended up living in a trailer park?
But the good news, is that we dont have to care. All we have to care about is making our own money, and hoarding as much of it as possible...and ensuring that if there's more to be had, we get more of it...even if that leaves less for others to get. And taxes, i'll be damned if I pay taxes and it helps families like this...they should just learn to help themselves, and if they cant...
well, their little girls will have to pay the price. little girls dont deserve to be able to grow up in safe environments if their parents cant pay for those safe environments.
we dont care about anyone but ourselves...it's the american way.
I agree ,and she should go to jail to ,same here in Arizona ,just vote Republican and cut all the funding to balance the budget ,put all this mentally people on Street to commit crime ,and when are people going to wake up and get involved and help but you do not trust any one to take care of your children ,to many sick people .
Jessica-1170252
Do you know me?
I don't think so. I have no illusions that it is a safe world. There hasn't been a day when I don't know where my kids are and who they are with. As far as no efforts of my own, you have no idea how proactive I am in trying to care the safety of my kids. Including discussions with them at very young ages about predators. I researched sex offenders in my neighborhood since they were born. In fact, we moved because one moved in around the corner.
So don't presume that you know me or what lengths I go to to protect my children.
It really doesn't matter where she lived. She could have been living in a million dollar home, with million dollar neighbors. That still would not have prevented her befriending and trusting the wrong person. A "friend" killed that little girl. Not some random dirtbag walking by.
Chris from Yucaipa
You are correct, there is scum everywhere and most of the time it is impossible to tell the difference. However, living in a trailer park with 15 sex offenders is a risk in itself, including for the mother.
Educated Voter - I believe the $100 is for "lot rent". This applies to everyone with a unit on the grounds. If you do not own your trailer, you are also paying rent on the trailer, or a mortgage payment on said unit.
In addition, you are responsible for utilities.
Fort Wayne is a cheap housing market, that is for sure. But median income is quite low as well. If you go there with money in your pocket, you will be OK. But if you are starting with nothing, it is quite hard to get ahead.
Oh, puh-leeze. This has nothing to do with money problems. The babysitter wasn't a sex offender. It could have happened in middle class suburbs as well--or anywhere. A man they thought they could trust killed their daughter. Do you think only poor people kill children?
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
professormarine, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
Actually, this woman & her husband moved into the trailer park because her father was dying of emphysema. Her father WAS a convicted sex-offender, and Plumadore moved in to care for the old man while he was dying. Plumadore is an ex-con, with convictions in 3 states.
Tarah Souders (mother) states on her FB that she was working in Pennsylvania from Feb. to May 2011. Plumadore has a picture of Souders' 3 girls (one of the 6 yr olds is a step), that refers to them as Princesses, or some such (taken in the summer, based on background in picture of a Ft Wayne dam).... The little girl who was killed had multiple disabilities -- ADHD, PTSD(at age 9 !?!), vision, hearing, and behavioral issues.
Souders also INSISTED that it WASN'T anyone at the trailer park that would have harmed or taken the child, while also stating she sleepwalked, and had gone outside, unlocking the door to do so, while sleepwalking in the past.... Smells pretty fishy!
There is WAY more to this story....
Yes professormarine. You are suspended for a day. For calling a spade a spade. Don't you know these NON-BIAS highly intellectual pages of MSNBC. Are for bashing the past Bush administration and republicans ONLY! Shame on you.
That is all.
Marinmom - Out of your 300 + words of psychobabble... Not one mention of anything factual. Other then the same tired old broken record of blaming Fox News, Conservative Christians, It's all Bush's fault... on and on you go. And when I have brought up zero in what you whine about. And Obama's spending more then all the presidents in history is helping the economy how? And Political is your "credible organization..." Man! do you need some big time professional help. NAME JUST ONE THING THAT YOUR ALMIGHTY HALF BREED TAR BABY SAVIOR HAS DONE TO BETTER THIS COUNTRY, JUST ONE? Other then winning a bogus Nobel Piece Of Crap Prize for nothing. And upping this nations deficit by how many TRILLIONS, and probably with never ever being a solution in sight. I know, how about Obama care. Now there's a real great idea. We'll have the government run health care as good as they do everything else. You are a perfect example why you liberal loons should be keep from breeding. Spay and neuter all liberals!
Why in the world would you be living with your children in a mobile home park full of sex offenders?????????????????
It could have been the only place they could afford to live.Or maybe she just didn't know.
Not everyone can live in a gated white house.
Not everyone can live in a gated White House, especially if they're a ret@arded Conservative out of touch with society.
...although it's a retarded communist who lives in the gated White House, at the moment.
Let's get this straight, the person who did this is not a sex offender. He is a friend. As I stated in the past look at everyone, not just at the obvious because 9 times out of 10, it is someone who is known to the family who committed the crime if not the family.
The flu, really? Leaving your 3 precious girls with some neighbor man? Sorry, but the mom and stepdad are much to blame here.
Not so much the step dad BUT MOM should take half of the blame for this one. I just hope the other two girls are immediately removed from her care since she OBVIOUSLY cannot care for them properly.
@Char-3714174, the "neighbor man" was their good family friend. They didn't think he would go and kill their little girl. It's like if you left your kid with someone you completely trust, you wouldn't think this would happen. It's not the parent's fault at all. The unfortunate truth, is that people are just sickening
It is the parents fault. Do you have kids stephanie? If you did you would know that most parents would NEVER do such a thing. Who leaves their kids with a guy who looks like this? How good of friends can they have been-he slaughtered and dismembered their child.
As a mother, I never would have left my daughter with a male acquaintance, especially one with a criminal record that included assault. In fact, there were few close male relatives I ever left my child with even for brief periods of time. Especially if my child had special needs as this child did-they are often difficult to care for and many people do not have the patience to deal with those special needs. Sad it has to be that way, but too often it is the mother's boyfriend or a male friend of the family perpetrating these kinds of crimes against children and it's just not worth the risk.
i think mariemom has her head up a liberals arse
marinmom that is
If it weren't for people this world would be a much nicer place to live..
Why are all of you blaming the parents, the politicians, etc.???
There is only one person to blame and that is Mike Plumadore - the killer of this innocent child. He is the one who made the decision to beat this child to death with a brick and dismember her. No one else.
Who checks up on the Prison record of a friend? How do you know the guy next door to you who helps you shovel your snow, and whose kids babysit yours isn't an ex-con? You don't. They don't say how long they knew this friend. You just never know.
My heart goes out to the family of that little girl, and I pray for her soul. God bless.
Seriously, I can totally understand having to live in a dangerous situation due to financial hardships, but I think a large amount of this tragedy, and a fair amount of other tragedies like this are due to bad parenting, and I think if that was more of the focus on these types of situations, more of them could be prevented. As most of the parents on this thread echoed, you simply do not leave your kids in this type of environment just because of the flu. My Mom was a single mother with stage 3-breast cancer, which almost killed her, and even on death's door she busted her butt to take care of me. The Chemo and radiation treatment and major surgery she underwent made her so weak and sick she could barely move some days, but she still managed to get me to school most days, and made sure somehow there was food in the house and I had everything I needed. And she was a single woman who worked the night shift for most of her life with a blue collar job, so it's not like we lived a life of luxury. I was only 9-10 at the time and even now in my mid 20's I have no idea how she did it. In most of these stories it's always the parents or caretakers going out to the store to get liquor, or getting drunk, or buying cigarettes and then finding the kids " mysteriously" disappeared, or women that get with abusive men they barely know. Very few have I heard of recently where it was two great parents that stumbled into some completely unavoidable tragic accident. I say we start mandating some parenting classes.
I think MarieMom cares nothing for the little girl or her Mom, instead looking for chance to make this tragedy a political issue. This in my mind places her beneath contempt. Surely there are liberals somewhere with higher moral standards than her's,
usa is great: "Not so much the step dad BUT MOM should take half of the blame for this one"
Here's another angle to consider: What if Mom lived in total fear of an abusive stepdad, so that she felt she HAD to get the girls out of the house to appease the volatile temper of the stepdad who couldn't sleep during the day while they were there? (Not defending, but until we know what went on "behind the scenes", we shouldn't be so quick to judge and/or place blame.)
Paul, my political posts were a response to other political posts. Why aren't you whipping on them?
I'm sure you are just some chauvinistic pig that treats the women in your life like second or third class citizens. Let's face it, if you were a highly evolved man, you would be a liberal. The fact that you are not puts you on the same level as an Arab. Do your wife and daughters wear burkas?
When my idiot ex-wife ran off with some loser, I raised my son by myself. There were a lot of days that I went to work without sleep when he was little, and a lot of times I was like the walking-dead with the flu or pneumonia (a leftover from the Persian Gulf War) and I had to figure it out. I have no sympathy for those stupid parents, doesn't matter if it is a "family friend" or what, you don't just outsource the care of three kids for a few days to the neighbor.
Do you actually know any Arabs?
If the mother was that sick with the flu and her fever was so high she would go out cold. She needed to call 911 to be taken to the hospital. If there was no one with her when she was being taken to the hospital the personal would have call social services. There would have been some responseable adult to take care of the children until she was better. If not the Dept of Soc. Sec would have been the ones to be held accountable. If you even think a child is in trouble please , please call 911. Everyone of us are responseable for the care of our next generation.
OomYaaqub, yes I have personally known some Arabs. I don't condemn them but I wouldn't want to be married to one either. I also would not want a republican American in my household either. To me, they are one in the same.
haha, you wouldn't want an Arab or Republican in your house because you think they are "the same"... you have got to be the only human on the planet braindead enough to think that. Are chocolate and vanilla the same to you also?
You must be absolutely terrified of Democrats then.
marinmom, some of the best husbands in the world are Arabs. I actually rented a room in my own home to an Arab couple. I thought she (the wife) was very lucky.
Some of the best husbands in the world are Republicans, too.
You are a bigot just as much as a Klansman is.
Demjo: You do realize, right, that some of the medicine people take for the flu and some pretty nasty colds are known to knock people on their ass for a while?
Republicans and Arabs make good husbands if you are a really dumb woman. It also helps if you are ugly and desperate.
Wow...the racists are out in force this evening.
Danaelle: so what? These kids weren't babies. They were old enough to play quietly inside without doing something dangerous. They knew how to get themselves a peanut butter and jelly sandwich so they weren't going to starve. Tell me, did the parents send the kids to a sitter every night since they'd be asleep, and thus unable to watch them? Were they really in more danger than what actually happened?
geol, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
I suppose its a terrible time to blame anyone but the sick jacka$$ who did this, but...
So so sad.
Prayers and condolences to the family and friends of this little girl.
Lord please bless this little girl that was taken from us and comfort her.
Lord, could you please also deal with the Vermin of a man who took her life,
What I want to do to this killer is against every thing you have taught me but I would gladly take his life after what he has done.
Please lord make this man suffer for eternity~
Thank you lord.
It seems to be, anymore, a good day when something this horrible doesn't appear in national headlines...
I keep asking myself, What Would Jesus Do? I cant believe he would.forgive this monster.
One of the ten commandements is Thou Shall not Kill.. I wish his punishment would be . execute him the same way Aliahna suffered.Crush his head with a brick, dismember his body and throw him in a landfill. And this goes for any criminal. I wish our justice system would go back a couple of thousand years, if you steal, your fingers get chopped off. sexual offenders get castrated. no second chances. If the guilty would get the same punishment for the crime they committed, they would think twice before commiting a crime. A eye for a eyel
A couple of reasons why the mother lived there.
1. She might not have known there were sex-offenders living there.
2. That is all she could have afforded to pay to live with 3 kids.
But if she did not know there were sex-offenders there, WHY did the manager of the park NOT tell her about the sex-offenders?
I find it very hard to believe that the mother had no clue MORE THAN HALF of the occupants of the mobile home park were sex offenders. There wasn't 1...there were 15. And ironically, the guy that allegedly killed the little girl, wasn't one of them.
lolabee,not everyone knows they can go online to look up that info.She may have just not been able to afford anywhere else.Either way though,the person being charged isn't a sex offender,it was a family friend.Sex offenders are not the only danger to our children.
Not everyone has access to internet either! Yes you can sit there and say well she could have went to the library. You do not know that. she may not have been able to afford the luxury of taking public transit across town to get to a library (just a thought here). Do not judge anyone until you have walked in their shoes. You do not know what caused this mother to have moved into this place.
Not every library in the U.S. has internet access either.
Nancy:
Thank you for the only sane comment on this thread!
Times are hard enough w/o gossipin' MEN and women trying to feel better about themselves by cutting others down.
Gossips cause nothing but more hardship...and in some cases: even more
horrible damage.
Maybe a little "gossip", or in this case outright information, would have helped keep the little girl alive. Evil lives in the shadows of silence.
Guys 'n gals: ----- Give it a rest! It has been established that NONE of the KNOWN sex offenders living in that trailer park committed the murder.
Yet not a single one of those registered sex offenders harmed the child. It was the psycho "trusted friend" that did this horrible thing. He doesn't have to be registered now. He'll get life or the death penalty (I hope they have it in his state).
Matilda - THANK YOU! The initial primary investigation sent local law enforcement to the 15 registered sex offenders. The laws regulating the previously convicted offenders worked quite well. Not to say the 15 won't offend again, but with great laws like the sex offender registry in place, these people know they are being watched.
If the park manager was being paid by the State to "provide" mobile homes to these sex offenders, he/they may not have wanted any of the other tenants to know. It would have cut his income drastically, if they had complained. However, the park manager should also be chastized for allowing families to live there unaware. It should have been posted in the office, that the park was a haven for sex offenders. Then again, the State paid landlords are not going to want to give up any money/income - they can be that ruthless and endanger children in just that way.
Patricia,
The park manager probably does not tell anyone about the other tenants because he/she could then be charged with harassment from those tenants for telling others about his/her legal situation. There is a public website that lists all of the offenders "registered" in your area and even that list is not accurate due to those scumbags moving and not notifying law officials as to where they are currently residing. I do know that certain offenders have to place signs at Halloween that they will not be giving out candy so that the children do not go to their doors.
One has to assume that there are sex offenders everywhere-in fact that is pretty much the case-and those are just the ones who were caught, convicted and registered. Just assume they are there and act accordingly.
It doesnt really matter at this point, he wasnt a registered sex offender anyway....
I've read that one in three women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime. That's a LOT of sex offenders, and I'm sure the government doesn't know about even half of them. Best to keep your kids with someone you know you can trust. I wouldn't say never leave them with a male, because that denigrates a lot of good, trustworthy men, but for goodness sake make sure you know the guy before you leave the kids with them! I would never leave my kids with anyone other than a family member, or a friend that I've known for years and seen interacting with other kids.
This little girl was beaten to death with a brick. There has been no mentioning of any sexual abuse, that story just states that sex offenders lived there. To beat anyone to death and then dismember them, that is just pure rage. This a viscious and brutal attack, and one can only hope that the first blow either knocked her out or killed her so that she wasn't aware of the brutality.
So how about laying off of the politics, that's irrelevant. A child is dead and a family is distraught. Show some respect, get more active in your community to make changes, anything but sitting back and applying blame other than to the one who killed her. My condolences go to the family and can only hope there is heaven, so her little soul can rest.
They can't tell if she was sexually abused because she was dismembered.
usa is great: You're correct about why the park manager would not circulate that information. Not sure about Indiana, but I was a relator in Arizona, and when someone asked about sex offenders in a neighborhood, I could not tell them. All I could do was refer them to the website.
Freedom - I had looked at other sites coverage of this and ABC are quoting the police that this murderer said that he hit her in the head with a brick while she was standing at the door to the porch and continued beating her at that spot. There is no indication in the police statements of any type of sexual assault.
Further information on this guy is that he was taking care of the girl's grandfather until he died Dec. 3rd and had lived next door to his daughter, the girl's mother. The girl's grandfather was a registered sex offender. The girls had been staying with him for a week.
And there you have it. This little girl's grandfather was a registered sex offender. Now, can we close the book on the issue of if the mom knew if there were sex offenders in the area? No need for the Internet.
Regardless, I'm not going to chastise this mother just yet. For all we know, she did the best she could with what she had; and left her children with someone she knew and trusted. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now.
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
It's sickening how many people have apparently bought into the political propaganda that being wealthy = "bad" while being poor = "victim". The fact that you are willing to excuse child negligence and a total lack of caring on the mothers behalf... because she made herself poor... is appalling.
The kids weren't babies. They were old enough to grab themselves something to eat and to play quietly if their parents asked them too. What could have been so dangerous in that trailer that the kids couldn't stay there?
I'm sure I can come up with some rather witty and thought provoking comments regarding this tragedy. But, that's exactly what it is. A horrible, tragic event. Better to leave it there and may that little girl finally know Peace. Condolences to the family and loved ones. Rest easy, little one.
Good comment American. These people that sit here and feel the need to place blame on anyone other than the perp are Azzholes. That's like blaming a rape victim for being raped. Does anyone truly think that these parents intentionally did this? I grew up in Ft. Wayne and never knew these facts about this trailer park even though it is a craphole. Some people simply can't afford the luxury the rest of us have.
Cannot agree with you more!
In agreeance, but also add that the guy was a trusted friend NOT on the sex offenders' list. So, the fact there were offenders living there had naught to do with this. I find them to be the bottom slime of the human trough, but that's another topic....
you all are bogus in defending parents that passed off their responsibilities of their kids to a friend, and since he has a criminal background and was a trusted friend im sure the family knew that, because if they didn't then they weren't the greatest of friends. The fact the parents sent the kids off because one had the flu and the other had to sleep is CRAPPy parenting. The fact that throughout the day the guy was able to make up such lies and the mother didn't relaize her child was missing until 830pm!!! Sick or not I would have called to check in with my children and talk to them. He may not be a registered sex offender but that doesn't mean crap it could just mean he was never caught!! So you blame this guy, but it was the perfect setup by the parents neglience and they better pray he didn't do anything to those other little girls. What mother would send her special needs child to a single, grown man with no kids to babysit, especially when we see they have grandparents around?!! Say what you want, but looking at the guys picture is enough to kill any idea to trust him with my kids. Parents get just as much blame as the killer in my book, they get no sympathy from me.
Moderation, that is what I always say in these cases, look at everyone, not just the sex offenders' list. I think the media does that just to get people whipped into a fury. And what if those on the list did something like flash someone, or be a boy at 17 who dated a 15 yo and the parents didn't like it and put them on the list?
Well said!!
Urinating in public is enough to get you on the sex-offenders' list. They're not all child rapists.
There should be some way to define the level of the 'sex offense,' and not lump them all into one ugly category.
This is NO ONE'S fault but the man that killed that poor child. Condolences to her family.
@Diva; as I'd posted below, not enough to go on yet but playing devil's advocate more or less, if this couple hit a low point in their lives or if this guy'd watched the kids before, was trusted in the home, etc... there's no way they could've known what it would do. His pic doesn't make him look small, his record doesn't include sex crimes and likely he can take care of himself.... they may have felt that in a park full of sickos (and agreed, valhall.... not all are, the stats on offenders need checked) he was the best candidate; perhaps no one messes with him.
Again, referring to posts below, I know of more people harmed by relatives than any other. Actually, it's only speculation that this was a sex crime; he may have been on or coming off of drugs and lost it, depending on the girl's behavior, etc..... No excuses for him; don't get me wrong. But, we just don't have enough to go on yet for blame other than blaming the thing that did this. Certainly, that can and may change, but for now......
Don't get me started, Diva 1922. I get so sick of people using these pages to judge, feel superior to and insult others. Your screen name is well chosen, but I suspect you are a diva only in your own mind.
We all have limitations and we don't know what this mother's were. People have accused her of being "stupid". Well, perhaps she is of low IQ. Perhaps she is physically or mentally ill. None of us has walked in her shoes so there is no way of knowing.
Please find something better to do with your time..........if you are such a "diva," perhaps you could rent a venue and sell tickets to whatever type of performance makes you a "diva".
Are you high? A sexual offence towards a child gets you placed on the "sex-offenders' list" urinating in public gets you $100 fine for -wait for it-public urination. Stupid comments like yours is what marginalizes the offences that this animal had committed in the past allowing him to be placed back in society.
Diva, you clearly have never had to take care of kids before. I would give ANYTHING to have a trusted friend to take care of my kids when I am sick. People say "it's just the flu, she shouldn't have passed off her kids on him", well what if she has poor immunity and was bedridden? What if she was trying to avoid getting them sick as well? Did you bother to think of that? Quit blaming parents who need help! I've read SO many articles on various sites in the past year about how mothers are doing too much, and not taking time for themselves, and end up run down and unable to take care of anyone, much less their kids. I DO NOT blame the mother in this case. I've been in her shoes, more times than I care to count, and I think everyone should be able to take time to take care of themselves. If men can take time off work to sleep off the flu, then why can't women?
Those that would place the blame on anyone but the actor, in this case or any other, are minimizing the culpability of the perp--excusing his behavior because someone put the child in harm's way. That is, in itself, inexcusable. The person to blame is the person that made the choice to destroy this young child. She already, reportedly, suffered from PTSD--Why? What happened to this child before she died. What caused her emotional problems? She, apparently had a very hard life. Why didn't her siblings come forward--they really didn't know? Or, were they terrified to death of this man? He did it and it is for his shoulders to carry. We obviously don't know all of the facts in this case. It is hard for some people to even consider that a person they know is capable of doing such a thing. Trust should and is a rare commodity these days. Still, he made the choice to do what he did and he should bear the consequences of his behavior, including all the wrath that you people can conjure up. We don't know why others did what they did. But, we have a pretty good idea why he did what he did. He is the boogie man here and no one else.
Plumadore is not a sex offender. So now who's making stupid comments.
Juan Matamoros's full bladder is going to cost him. Twenty-one years ago, he had too much to drink, and was caught when he urinated on a street in Essex, Massachusetts. Matamoros was charged with "lewd and lascivious behavior" — which apparently got him classified as a sex offender. He currently lives in Deltona, Florida, with his wife and two young sons, but he's been ordered to pack up and move.
http://www.bakelblog.com/nobodys_business/2007/03/florida_banishe.html
maybe instead of whipping their dong out to pee anywhere they please they should wait till they can get to a restroom to relieve themselves then they won't have to worry about being classified as a sex offender. If that's how some of them got themselves onto the list then that's their own fault, wouldn't feel bad for them at all. Sorry if this comment "offends" some people or makes them "angry" but it's how I feel about it.
larissa that's preposterous. That isn't the intent of the list. The purpose is to recognize convicted rapists and pedophiles. The more extraneous people you put on the list, the less useful it will be.
Wait until someone you care about ends up on the list and has is life ruined for public urination, for crying out loud.
i guess larissa is one of those extremely lucky people who have never caught themselves needing to pee in a place where there is no bathroom. Tell ya what, Larissa: Drink a few beers some time, then wait a good while, til you have to pee in a place that doesnt have a bathroom, then try to hold it til you get to one. Be sure and let us know how that works out for you :)
when I was a kid my stepdad was pretty anal about only making scheduled stops on trips. I did piss my pants once because of it :)
You can absolutely wind up on a sex offender registery for a reason that dilutes the purpose of the registery. Urinating behind a bush when you think no one is around is just one way, These lists were intended to identify the offenses that had victims, such as a pediphile or rapists create. But the person who murdered Aliahna was NOT a registered sex offender. He was a trusted family friend. The poor judgment of the parents and others in this situation is possible a contribution but they will live with that. I am a parent of 3 grown daughters and feel that I made mistakes raising mine and But for the grace of God........ Thankfully they did not encounter such a foul person as this.
Make up any excuse you want.. but it's the parents responsibility to keep their children safe..... period.
They failed at doing so and the child pays the consequences.
I hope they kill this SOB who killed her and any other SOB's who target kids.
They won't! In this new, improved, warm and fuzzy society we live in where nothing is wrong if you don't think it is wrong for you, and everything and everybody are expendable for a persons own convenience this guy will get a more secure life than anyone else who is actually responsible for themselves.
Are you suggesting that people should always have their kids with them and never use a babysitter? I'm guessing you don't have kids. You don't know the whole story.The only one to blame is whoever hurt the little girl.I have never met a parent that's been with their kids non-stop until they turn 18.
The progressive liberal mantra "...it takes a village to raise a child..."
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb........ still dumb
@Saraos - I don't think the OP is trying to say people should always have their kids with them & never use a babysitter but maybe that one shouldn't leave their children in the care of someone with a rap sheet a mile long.
Saraos: choosw between your post 5.2, and 7.2. Which is it?
Tarzan-3462832 The progressive liberal mantra "...it takes a village to raise a child..."
Liberal mantra? How did you mix up your screwed up politics with an African proverb?
Tarzan, in your case we can assume it took just your regressive, closed-minded, fearful, ignorant parents, to raise an idiot.
Saraos -- I have. You can practically hear the helicopter blades whirring in her presence.
Her daughters are so neurotic, they should star in Woody Allen movies. The older one is practically glued to her side and won't leave the house without Mommy with her. The younger one is looking for the chance to run wild and will probably be out the door like a shot on her 18th birthday, with no idea how to survive without Mommy telling her what to do.
john-737278
How sad. I totally blame whoever did this, but why in the world would anyone as a parent live in a trailer park where half of them have registered sex offenders residing. You stand a better chance of protecting your kids living on the street.
This has got to be one of the most stupid comments i've read on here. Some people have to do what they have to do to keep their children from having to live on the streets. How dare you? You sit on you high and mighty throne and judge how poor people have to try and survive? God some people are a trip!!!! Maybe you'll never have to live in a trailer park.... Mister I got it like that.
I wouldn't say, "Never leave a child with anyone else", but I would say that parents should be very cautious in who they choose to entrust their children to. Better safe than sorry.
We have a great family friend who doted on our sons from the time they were born. He asked the kids to call him "Uncle Dave" and the kids grew up thinking he was actually their uncle. One time, he mentioned that it would be fun to have our oldest son (who was maybe 6 years old) stay overnight at his house sometime. My husband told me that he was uncomfortable with that. He said that even though our friend was a great guy and seemed to be totally appropriate with the kids...why take a chance? The fact that our friend hadn't dated any women in the years that we had known him also triggered a tiny bit of concern (could he be lonely and thus give in to temptation for physical contact with a child?) Our friend never ended up proposing an actual sleepover, but we he had made our decision -- this was a positive adult-child friendship, but we would restrict their time together to just what we parents could observe.
How about not using a baby sitter that looks like a meth fiend-@!$%#ing moron!!!
It is not possible to keep your children safe 24/7. We cannot keep them in a bubble. There are monsters out there that prey on just this type of child--as well as perfectly normal and well raised children. The focus should be on the sub human that chose to commit this act, not anyone else. The parents will have a life time to consider all the "should haves" and "should not haves" and the perp, hopefully, will not see another day of freedom or another child for the rest of his--I hope--very short life. There are times when shanking is not the worst possible offense that a person can commit.
Sadly, they probably had no choice, it was a roof over their head with water, bathroom and a place to make food. It's so easy to say live on the street, yea with three small children that certainly would work, right. The ironic part is this guy was not a sex offender, he was a "friend" who they trusted. They were trying to do the best for their family, my heart and prayers go out to them, I thank God he confessed and can't hurt another family
Joan-1928838
Sadly, they probably had no choice, it was a roof over their head with water, bathroom and a place to make food. It's so easy to say live on the street, yea with three small children that certainly would work, right. The ironic part is this guy was not a sex offender, he was a "friend" who they trusted. They were trying to do the best for their family, my heart and prayers go out to them, I thank God he confessed and can't hurt another family.
Very well said..... Think you could get this point across to...
john-737278
No choice? are you really that stupid? BOTH PARENTS WERE HOME ALL DAY!
One "sleeping" and the other one with "the flu".... and they decided that the best way for their 3 daughters to spend the christmas holiday was in an old guys trailer down the street FOR DAYS!!!
If your idea of doing "their best" for their children is refusing to take turns sleeping, or apparently doing anything at all (at Christmas noless) then you are pathetic.
Being poor does not make someone a victim... if that is the case then you should be crying for the murderer too, he had zero mouths to feed and still couldn't afford more than a trailer... he must be a saint right?
Being poor is only further evidence of the womans lack of decision making ability.
pjam09....amen!
She left the kids there for a week. The murder had convictions in 3 states. He lived with her registered sex-offender father, in his trailer, until he died Dec. 3. He was a child molester.
Mother, Tarah Souders INSISTED that it certainly WASN'T anyone from the trailer park that had harmed or abducted her child. Hmmm... Then also mentioned the child would sleepwalk, opening locked doors, & go outdoors... So, despite living in a 24 shack trailer park, with 15 registered sex offenders there, mom was SURE it COULDN'T have been anyone from Sex-Offender infested MobileManor who done it!
Plumadore dismembered the little girl, then put her head, hands, & feet in gramp's freezer. The rest of her body was put in freezer bags & dumped in a local dumpster.
Something just feels so entirely bizarre & "off" about this case.... Plumadore had a summertime pic of Souders' 3 children on his FB page that refers to them as "Princesses."
Such a shame, so sad. Condolences to the family.
I hope they stick this animal in the worst prison in the USA for his entire life.
Sadly, from my experience as a Correctional Officer in a Maximum Security Prison for Adult males, he will go straight to protective custody. People that harm children are scum to the other inmates and they will quickly be dealt with. Wouldn't that be some kind of justice though? Admit to the crime, go to prison and die at the hands of your fellow inmates!!! Hopefully he would finally feel what torture and pain I'm sure the child felt at his hands.
Rest in peace little one!!!!
Nana...I worked as a Health Care Administrator and a nurse in a prison for five years and in an ER/OR for another 28 years. I agree with you. Not all of those in protective custody are child killers and this man's safety cannot be guaranteed--as much as those like you try to prevent anything from happening. It is possible that he won't be as safe as he thinks. I agree, most like him, PC up as soon as they hit the door. Cowardly jerks. If he thought it was a good idea then, why not explain to the general pop why it isn't a good idea now? I hope he does PC up--Dahmer did. How did that work out for him? Those lifers with nothing to lose are not going to be happy....
There is justification for the death penalty in cases of children being harmed. Either molested or murdered.
This guy should be used as a practice dummy for gays in jail for the next 100 years.
he will
Problem is: He'll be surrounded by less sex offenders!
WHENNNNN are women going to STOP LEAVING LITTLE GIRLS WITH ADULT MEN WHO ARE NOT THEIR BIOLOGICAL FATHERS ??? I live in South Texas and we have babies and children murdered by the mother's male friend at least once a month or more. You do not leave little girls with unrelated grown men.Yes I know there are men who can and should be trusted. But every time we see one of these stories death usually comes at the hands of an unrelated male- and quite often-as crime stats indicate-the victim or the victim's family knows the killer. Sorry I am having trouble finding compassion for the mother-rather I feel blame towards her.I have been flat on my back sick in bed while still having responsibility for caring for children much younger than those three. Its doable.You don't need to farm them out to the man next door. This is part of being a mother. Sleeping night working step dad could have sacrificed some sleep to help mom out. I could never imagine having three daughters and allowing a grown man to babysit them-especially out of my sight out of my house. We have seen these same results in that type of situation way too many times. And nobody still knows what happened to Baby Lisa either.
I totally agree, but you also must watch your little boys as well.
Sadly often the person that does injury to a child is not only a trusted family friend, but a relative. In my case my biological father abused me and tried to kill me, assaulted my 12 year old aunt and then tried to kill both my mother and me. By the time I was 4 my mother was in an institution and my 18 year old aunt had custody of me, she and her husband adopted me and have been wonderful parents. The man who raised me and took care of me, taught me to read and ride a bike and not to talk to strangers, helped me learn to drive and walked me down the aisle at my wedding had no biological ties to me at all yet he is my father in the important sense of the word.
My point is, women should not leave their children, male or female, with any people, male or female, that they are not 10,000% sure of. Sadly, this woman and her family considered this man a friend and did not understand what he was capable of. The parents are not to blame for that, the scumbag that could look at the child of his friend, or any other child, and think "victim" is.
Yeah, but you are a texican. We all know that texicans are superpeople with superhuman abilities. At least to hear them TALK.
Being married and having a stable family are so "old fashioned". All the "cool kids" are staying single, partying, and popping out kids left and right. Look at Casey Anthony, Michelle Parker and countless other single moms and children of single moms. This liberal notion of "do what feels good, consequences be damned", has a price, and we see it every day in the news when another child or single mom turns up missing or dead.
It might not have been the mother who decided to leave the girls there. Remember she was ill with the flu. The dad may have been the one to decide to have the girls stay there so he could get some sleep for work and let his wife sleep to get over being sick.
What if you have no family around. (My closest family lives in another state.) This man may have have been the only 'friend' they had in that trailer park. It was stated in the story that most residences kept to themselves. The parents were trying to do the best they could under the circumstances.
The next thing we will hear is if the mom just took care of herself and not gotten sick, this wouldn't have happened. Quit blaming the parents (especially the mom) for this. They were/are doing their best in a bad situation.
They didn't just leave any child with their "friend", they left a child with emotional & physical problems with a grown-man who isn't a father/ parent himself. I don't care how sick the mother was, she could have cared much better for those three kids in a compromised state than any "friend" could have. Not only was he not family, he also has a criminal record. And since when does being sick make it impossible to check on your children while they're with someone else all day? They didn't realize until 8:30 that the child was missing?
i don't know i guess il just have to pull the kids out of school or any other situation when they could come in contact with a adult and im not there.
I couldn't agree with you more Valerie.
TX kitkat, you took the words right out of my mouth!!! When you take on the responsibility of being a parent, it's not something you pass off when you are sick...especially to someone who is not in your home where you can watch them. As a parent myself, stories like this break my heart..egardless of the gender of the child, parents need to be more cautious!!! I really am curious as to the mother's reason for living in the trailer park with so many sex offenders though?! I understand the economy has hit many families in a big way, but I find it hard to believe this was her only option...
So many people have no idea of the stresses involved in how the poor live. Could you survive living like that with no healthy positive support? with no mental fatigue? Rather than spending so much time judging people for the plight they are in, why don't you volunteer or send some $$$ to your local shelters for single women with children? Why not do something good for you fellow man rather than puff yourselves up by talking your trash about them? No one is any better than anyone else - especially in America. Turn off your TV's and computers and help people rather than judge them for a change. It may make you like yourselves enough not to put others down to make yourselves feel better (which is a screwed way to live anyway)! Your choice though!
Believer...WTF?
What's your problem?
When reading: a trailer park w/ sex offenders galore, man works but sleeps all day, mother has 'flu', etc.... it's easy to wander off into mind land where drugs and all else are involved in this. TV type scenarios. But, I'm reserving any judgement of any other than the perp until more info is out there to see. I don't see where it's right to judge a parent, or parents, at a time like this when so little is known. I've known people where abuse, sexually and otherwise, is at the hands of family and extended family. Reality is, stereotyping may make some feel better, and knowledge can go a long way, but complete prevention from the disgusting amongst us is not going to happen any time soon.
For all any know, the parents may have hit a low time in their lives, had known this thing for some time, and thought 'who better to watch the kids? A rap sheet, but not for sex crimes in a park full of 'em, can take care of himself, so can take care of them, known him for a long time....'. Again, until more comes out, only judging the creature that did this, none else.
Tarzan,
What does being married or not being married...or having children out of wedlock have anything to do with this story.
The mother was married to the children's step-father (you don't get that title unless you are married) and the mother was ill and the father (step) worked nights. So exactly what does anything in your post have to do with anything in this article? A little girl was murdered by a trusted family friend while being babysat.
And to everyone else...Where exactly did the parents do anything wrong? Had the mother been working during the day and the father been sleeping because he worked nights, the kids would have still been at a babysitter. I don't feel like this is a case of bad parenting or anything like that, just a sick creep who murdered a little girl and did lord know what else to her before and after. Everyone needs to get off of their high horses, but obviously none of you have had to make such difficult decisions that offer your family the best possible protection all while being vulnerable because of circumstance. We do not know any about this family besides the facts that the mother was sick with the flu (which, BTW, if you ever had the flu you would know that you aren't able to care for yourself, let alone anyone else..a pretty serious illness) and the step-dad was asleep after working nights. That is all we know about them, so let's stop playing the blame game and calling them bad parents. We do not know their situation. Blame lies with one man, and he confessed already.
The comment about "maybe she didn't know how many offenders lived in her trailer park" or "she didn't know how to check the internet website" sounds like another excuse for lack of thinking. Just as how many years has birth control been advertised on TV and there are still people out there getting pregnant cause they "didn't know". Give me a break. There are billboards all over this nation drawing attention to sex offenders. If she couldn't read, I am sure someone would have pointed it out and read it to her. I have never been sent to stay with someone else when there was flu in our house (as a child). Even when my mother had major surgery, we all stayed home. My sis and I were ten. We took care of the dad and two brothers by cooking and cleaning. When I was very ill and my 2 boys were 4 and 1, I sent them to my mothers -- not to some strangers home. I did have a sitter coming to my home to take care of them while I worked, and after coming home early hearing her yell (not knowing I was there), I fired her. After that, my children went into public daycare, where I could watch them interact, be well watched by credentialed employees and where if I had any doubts, could go to someone in charge.
I totally agree with Patricia. "MelBel" you are totally wrong!
I already told my view on someone elses Response, so I'm not doing it again. I WILL tell you that I'm a mother of 26 and 21 year old daughters. I worked full-time days; my ex-husband worked nights. I NEVER farmed my children out to anyone when I was sick and down--let alone a man next door. That's just weird--"family friend" or NOT! My mother had a stroke when I was fourteen with Congestive Heart Failure. Guess what?? She didn't send us away to stay with someone else.
I'm NOT saying this is the "mother's" fault of what that "SICKO" did; however, she needs to have BETTER JUDGEMENT when raising her daughters--PERIOD!
No grown man not in the immediate family (Uncle or grandfather) should be watching your children. Doesn't anyone else think before they leave their child with some "close family friend" who looks like a @!$%#ing psycho-why would Joe Scumbag want to watch my very challenging child? If I am sick I get my ass out of bed make breakfast, pack lunch, take my kids to school, pick them up, make dinner, do homework, and put them to bed. Why? Because that is what parents do, not send them to go stay with some nasty ass in my trailer park. Being a parent is a 24/7/365 rain, shine, sickness, and health job.
It amazes me how many of these comments seek to place blame on the parents, the community and any other random person/place based on the rather scant facts in this story. There is only one unassailable fact in this story and it is that this scumbag admitted to murdering that poor child. There is no way for any of you to know the circumstances, motivation or mindset of any of the individuals involved and you certainly don't know enough to pass judgement. IMHO, the only one that is truly guilty is the scumbag that did it and he should die. Everyone else is, at this point, a victim and should be regarded as such.
"Yes I know there are men who can and should be trusted."
^^This. Don't lump us all in together.
I think it's easy for all of you people to chime in on what you would do, or what you have done, and it's all circumstantial. you quite simply don't know what the family life is like, and doubtful any of you are social workers, psychologists, etc. It's easy to cast blame from afar, especially when there are no consequences for your accusations. I screen my kids friends and parents carefully, but that doesn't mean someone being screened is gonna always be honest or isn't capable of deception. My daughter was molested by her mothers boyfriends brothers teenage friend. It's out of my control no matter how stringently i screened my kids friends or aquaintances. So I guess it was my fault she was molested because i couldn't stop that situation from happening? You people are truly stricken with stupidity if you think that is how the world works. It's not. Every parenting situation is different, and every person is different. If this guy hadn't killed this kid, it would have been another one and likely someone would be blaming those parents too. Sad day to be an American.
They do not have enough information as to how ill the mother was. some people with the flu are so ill vomiting dizzy etc that they cannot get to the bathroom alone. We do not know the facts.I hate it when they put out stories that do not put all the facts in it. I think they do it just to get people to react and fight on the Internet.They may have known this man for a long time and he had been to their house and they trusted him. He may have told them he would watch the children, yes I can see that. As for the sex offenders in the park, the owner of the park should tell them about the sex offenders so they would keep close eye on the children, girls and boys. As for renting to sex offenders, that is a tough one, I thought they had to tell you before renting to them that they were. That is not the fact. I rented to a couple in their 50's look up past rental as they were from out of state, The only thing I received was that they were good renters and paid on time. I never thought of looking up to see if one of them was a sex offender. Not use to such things because live in the country and trusted people , a month after they were in the house, I asked the wife why was the man so nervous and didn't want to do anything he had promised to do, to get in the house. She said he has been that way since getting out of jail I asked what was he in jail for? She said that he had serviced time for sex offence , with a 13 year old girl , but he didn't do anything just bumped her on the breast. So Then I went to the sheriff's report on the Internet and found out he had done more than just bumped the child, and served a year and was out on good behavior, They had moved 5 times in the last year. I thought they were suppose to tell when renting, found out no they don't have to tell Well I was stuck for a year with them, but did go around toneighbors who had grandchildren coming to their houses during the summer and let them know not to let the girls or boys go into the woods hiking without an adult going with them as he was a sex offender. I told them to look it up and where. I hate all sex offenders, and think they should be put in jail for life with the regular prisoners or a mental hospital and never released, they are not cured and will do it again. This I know and sometimes even if you tell your mother, she won't want to believe you as the person may be their security. So you leave home as soon as you can. This man should be killed the same way he killed the young girl. That is why I say put him in with the regular prisoners as they would take care of him.
European Bred,
What exactly about my post was wrong? My response to Tarzan? (doubtful)
My response to everyone else? (also doubtful)
The fact that when you are sick with the flu (maybe not you cuz you're obviously super mom) for many individuals, they shouldn't be left alone themselves, barely able to move or even get themselves to the toilet, delirious from fever, etc, let alone take care of 3 young children with at least one with behavior and emotional issues. Or the fact that had the woman been at work that her children would have likely been with a babysitter anyway (since school is out for the holidays). Or perhaps I was wrong that sometimes parents have to make choices (the best of 2 evils) that unfortunately make them and their children vulnerable. These choices are made not because they want to make them, but because they have no other options...you know like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. I guess your life is so grand that you have never been put in those situations before. Or maybe I was wrong that we don't know a thing about this family and shouldn't jump to conclusions about their parenting. Maybe just maybe I was wrong that the man that should be blamed for the death of this girl should be the man who actually caused it.
Sorry, don't see where I'm wrong here. Think you could explain it to me?
BTW, also a mother. I work a full time day job and a part time night job, with a disable husband and a child with serious behavior and emotional issues. So I totally understand what this woman was possibly thinking by having someone watch her children while sick with the flu, instead of letting them run amok in her house where she wouldnt be able to keep an eye on them and possibly outside in a neighborhood full of sex offenders. She thought they would be safe with a TRUSTED friend. Why wouldn't she think they were safe with a trusted friend. Keywords: TRUSTED and FRIEND. Just because he is a man means nothing. Girls and boys are often molested by someone they know and quite often it is a male family member; uncle, brother, grand father, father, cousin, as well as all of the females in the family. Based on this article, the parents of this little girl did nothing wrong, and until I hear otherwise I will not assume they were dead beat parents just because you do.
When are men going to stop being murderous?.....
Plumadore had probably been molesting this girl for years adding to her emotional problems. Grown SINGLE men do not babysit 3 girls for nothing.
Of course there is ANY other choice than leaving your children with a single man living next door. You have the flu, my mom had the flu, too and gutted up and took care of me the best she could when she was very sick.
Now we have to listen to all the other neighbors on the news saying, "he seemed like such a nice man." How the hell do you think these kind of people get a hold of innocents, or take advantage of stupid parents?"
It's a shame the kind of people who are allowed to breed. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Of course there is ANY other choice than leaving your children with a single man living next door. You have the flu, my mom had the flu, too and gutted up and took care of me the best she could when she was very sick.
Now we have to listen to all the other neighbors on the news saying, "he seemed like such a nice man." How the hell do you think these kind of people get a hold of innocents, or take advantage of stupid parents?"
It's a shame the kind of people who are allowed to breed. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
TX Kitkat:
That is the single dumbest thing I've ever heard. So you think stepfathers are unable to care for kids? Stepfathers who have their own kids can;t be trusted with kids-by-marriage?
Oh wait. First you say only biological relatives, but LATER you practically demanded that the stepdad who works nights sacrifice sleep to watch the kids.
You obviously don't know what you want or what you're babbling about, so cork it.
wow, now i know why a single father like myself of my 7 yr old little girl cant get her a play date. your such an ass.
TX Kitkat: Corking it is the least you can do. Getting over your obvious hatred for men would be even better.
My qualifications? A single dad raising my youngest daughter for the last decade because her mother didn't meet the court's definition of a fit parent. Many moms have trusted their daughters to come and spend over-nights with mine. I consider it the highest responsibility and greatest honor to return them to their families healthy, happy and well fed. Speaking to the manner in which I was raised, anything less than that would be unacceptable.
Don't lump us all in the same pan, and get some help. That goes for all here with that same problem of male-hatred. Get some help. You're wasting alot of valuable life in your current state and I'm still here doing the same job I've been doing for a long time now and doing it happily. Healthy or ill, through everything that life has thrown at me, and doing it as well or better than most any woman has ever thought of doing it.
Just the same, my prayers are with the little girl and her family and loved ones who are missing her horribly now. And yes, the killer should be put to death and quickly, so as not to waste any time or money on his worthless carcass...
Put me down for a little single father outrage at the suggestion that men cannot ever be trusted to watch someone else's kids. What kind of @!$%# is that? Why would you let men watch their own kids then, if we are just innately untrustworthy? It's more likely to be someone related to the child that hurts them as it is. Most of my close friends are male, and I'd trust any of them with my children. I've watched my friends kids on occasion (tho I don't really relish the role of babysitter), even before I started my own family.
How could you possibly be friends with someone, of any sex or origin, and not trust them around your children? I don't mean someone you only see at work, or a neighbor who's name you barely recall, but a guy you've known for years, had over to your house, etc?
NC open heart:
Women never kill children?
Shut up.
If a single 39 year male willingly offers to babysit 3 girls alone FOR DAYS!!!! which involves staying overnight, bathing, changing clothes etc. knowing he is the only adult present... you should instantly be worried. No non-relative male with honest intentions would accept that situation because he would know that if he upset one of the girls in any way all she would have to do is make a sexual allegation against him and his life is basically over at that point.
pjam09,
What sad and disturbed world do you live in that every adult male is incapable of watching children because they have an irrational fear of being accused of a sexual offense, and every prepubescent girl has a histrionic personality disorder?
I highly suggest getting a new group of friends.
pjam09:
Gee whiz, I babysat my old non-related roommates' kids all the time. My record and heart are pure.
Guess that proves you stupid.
"WHENNNNN are women going to STOP LEAVING LITTLE GIRLS WITH ADULT MEN WHO ARE NOT THEIR BIOLOGICAL FATHERS ???"
Children are safest in full-time cohabitation with their biological fathers. Women are safer married than single. Women are responsible for the super majority of child abuse, but that isn't a surprise because young children spend nearly all of their waking time with adult women.
Your question should be "When will parents realize that children are safest with their biological parents and much less so with any other adult."
I am sorry to even read about this gruesome death of an innocent. As a parent myself, I can only imagine the horror of the parents.
pjam09 wrote "No non-relative male with honest intentions would accept that situation because he would know that if he upset one of the girls in any way all she would have to do is make a sexual allegation against him and his life is basically over at that point."
This is true. A man's life is ruined with a false allegation. Don't date single moms, and don't go out of your way to do women favors for the mere reward of a smile and some kind words.
'Trusted family friend' eh?
The family should be held for criminal negligence for being stupid.
Sadly the mother will likely continue to live off of society and remain a breeder. Remember she will portray herself as a victim not the dumb ass she is.
I think it's easy for all of you people to chime in on what you would do, or what you have done, and it's all circumstantial. you quite simply don't know what the family life is like, and doubtful any of you are social workers, psychologists, etc. It's easy to cast blame from afar, especially when there are no consequences for your accusations. I screen my kids friends and parents carefully, but that doesn't mean someone being screened is gonna always be honest or isn't capable of deception. My daughter was molested by her mothers boyfriends brothers teenage friend. It's out of my control no matter how stringently i screened my kids friends or aquaintances. So I guess it was my fault she was molested because i couldn't stop that situation from happening? You people are truly stricken with stupidity if you think that is how the world works. It's not. Every parenting situation is different, and every person is different. If this guy hadn't killed this kid, it would have been another one and likely someone would be blaming those parents too. Sad day to be an American.
So I guess it was my fault she was molested because i couldn't stop that situation from happening?
Your daughter being molested by an acquaintance four degrees off is not even close to leaving your children with a middle aged man who isn't a blood relation.
But I guess in your world it is so the parents are blameless.
Then I'm glad you don't make the laws, FactOfThe Matter. You would throw every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Sally who ever had any person do something to their kids that was out of their control to the wolves. And I have left my son with plenty of men who are not blood relations because he was adopted and his blood relations made life a tragedy for him. Don't be so judgemental and make blanket statements. His father is no blood relation nor has he ever been, and he is a better father than his biological "parent" that lost all rights to him. I also leave him with his adopted relatives, and many are middle aged or older men. You make such stupid comments, FactOfTheMatter.
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
It's sickening how many people have apparently bought into the political propaganda that being wealthy = "bad" while being poor = "victim". The fact that you are willing to excuse child negligence and a total lack of caring on the mothers behalf... because she made herself poor... is appalling.
And I have left my son with plenty of men who are not blood relations because he was adopted and his blood relations made life a tragedy for him.
You know exactly what I mean, so don't change it around to a game of semantics.
You would throw every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Sally who ever had any person do something to their kids that was out of their control to the wolves
She knew it could be dangerous. The park of about two dozen homes was teeming with convicted sex offenders, with one living at nearly every address.
Hmm, if this doesn't sound negligent...
How terribly sad. I can't understand how anyone can hurt anyone or anything let alone a little child. Condolences to the family and loved ones. Rest in Peace child.
I agree 100% with TX Kitkat, you don't leave your children with anyone other than immediate family members. I am lucky that both sets of grandparents live close by so whenever my husband and I have our date nights we know our three kids are safe. You can't trust just anyone with them! As parents it's OUR responsibility to protect them from the crap that goes on in this world.
TrueBlue - sometimes you can't even trust a family member - grandparents, yes; others - not too sure. How often do you hear of a family member killing a child. Too often, I'm afraid.
Not everyone is as lucky as you are to be able to leave their kids with only relatives.Some people don't have family.And I've heard about a few grandparents that have done some pretty horrible things to the grandchildren.
'Immediate family members' can be predators too.
Uncle Pevert (may he rot in hell) comes to mind....
So if you're not an "immediate family member", you can't be trusted with other people's children? My husband and I became involved with a baby girl many years ago, no relationship to us at all, but over the years she has lived with us off and on, and we love her as much as we love our own children. She will be 16 soon, and thinks of us as her grandparents. We would NEVER think of harming her, and if anything happened to her it would rip us apart as much as if something had happened to any of our "birth" children. This child is so much a part of our lives that she is even on our cell phone contract even though at this time she lives with her father and step-mother, 2 states away. She spends summers with us, calls us regularly, we provide much of her needs, such as school clothes and supplies, and as much of her "wants" as possible, such as IPods, computers, etc. We have no hidden agenda, we just fell in love with a baby girl 15 years ago, to the point that we moved 1,900 miles away to be with her when her dad moved across country with her.
What happened is tragic, but to paint every non-relative caregiver as a danger to children is ludicrous.
Of course blame the mom. She probably blames herself and rightly so. Extremely poor judgment. Would the mom have trusted him to watch a million dollars for her. Probably not. Then she should not have trusted that man with her priceless children. I, too, have been sick, face in the toilet sick, and managed to watch three children while my husband was deployed. Took all three of us to the emergency room once and wouldn't let my babies leave my side so the nurse gave us a semi-private room. The babies slept in the bed while I got antibotics and IV fluids. My dad, whom I would trust with a million dollars without hesitation, drove eight hours to watch my boys so that I could attend an 8 hour seminar. I would not have gone otherwise. Finally, mom married a man that cared more about sleeping than watching her children when she needed him the most. As I mom, I can't excuse her from her poor judgement.
Could not sustain a large search because of "christ"mas?
Well that sounds pretty selfish to me. The almighty holiday takes precedence over looking for an innocent little girl! How sad!
And when is the leadership in Washington going to finally give everybody a new home so they don't have to live in run down trailers?
And as far as the guy who they allege did the killing, he will at least get mental health help, three free meals a day, a warm bed to sleep in, and all the s e x he could possibly want.
Washington has already tried this and look where we are....foreclosures, unside down on mortgages, etc............
Well... they really just let people borrow exhorbitant amounts of money with ridiculous interest rates and when people couldn't pay the mortgage and the original loan was nowhere to be found, they took the house.
Just a thought.
"And when is the leadership in Washington going to finally give everybody a new home so they don't have to live in run down trailers"
What? Where in God's name does it say this is a right? If everyone had a new home this deranged bastard would just kill in his new home-moron
A large search wouldn't have mattered much. I'm not saying it is a tragedy none wanted to search, but she was probably dead already by the time they wanted to organize a search but couldn't.
I left one comment 12/26. I ask if any person in the family was involved in any way with Plumadore and if Plumadore was obsessed with celebrity recently at a premiere taking a picture of themself the way Plumadore did on his Facebook page. I ask if people are intelligent enough to figure out others that they not only telegraph their intuition, but communicate it to the relevant others in usable form when it matters to those that can prevent the tragedy from happening. I ask if there are other girls, children or others in the park that could be in danger and if there is anyone anywhere that may need protection will all of you with the gift of intuition and being able to read situations communicate what you perceive when it matters to persons that can work to avoid unnecessary harm.
It's time to arrest the parents. They are ultimately responsible for their kids. Mom has the flu so she leaves her emotionally challenged little girl with some so called "family friend" in a mobile home park known for sex offenders? I'm so sick of these parents blaming the fact that they neglected their kids on boyfriends and family friends.
You had kids and you should care for them regardless to illness and fatique - that's what parents do! Obviously these two were not prepared. Why were they living there in the first place.
Again, the parents should be charged with neglect - they left three little girls in a mobile home park known for sex offenders. He then leaves them alone to go and get a cigar? Who's responsible for these kids?
Morons should not be allowed to have children!
The Dad was at work. I can't even believe you would call that neglectful, and as far as why they were living there, where should they have been? I would love to know the location where nothing bad will happen, so please do tell, I would LOVE to live there. If the mom was sick to the point where she physically could NOT care for her kids why is it wrong to put them with an able-bodied adult. People sometimes cannot see the true nature of another person. It's horrible to vilify someone for not being a mind reader
Laura1122--are you kidding me? "she physically could NOT care for her kids why is it wrong to put them with an able-bodied adult." WELL, GUESS WHAT? That "Abled-Bodied" adult male DIS-BODIED a young 9 year old female. SOMETHING WRONG HERE??? "Family Friend!?"
We've ALL been sick so bad we can't get out of be hardly, but you know what??? YOU DO IT ANYWAY!
I will be very surprised if Social Rehabilitation Services doesn't step in to investigate why she sent her children over to a strange man's home--don't give me the "family friend' crap!
I don't think that she should be "Charged" or punished for something another person DID! This IS CLEARLY his fault! However, she needs Parenting Classes to further protect her two other daughters, and for Crying Out Loud--if you are that bad off, keep your legs closed and/or get on Birth Control!
Gee, Karol, I guess you've never been sick a day in your life. If the mother had kept the kids there but had exhausted herself to the point of collapse, and the place had burned down as a result, we would have asked "why didn't she ask for help?" GET A FRIGGEN LIFE and quit blaming someone for needing help! Everyone needs help once in a while, and it's people like YOU that prevent them from getting that help!
Then I hope you never do, because the parents never had any hand in the death. Your comment, Karol, makes you look like what you called the parents. Let's arrest everyone who ever had anyone do anything to their children. The world would be a better place . . . Well, I disagree. How can you look into the future and see what a very trusted friend will do? Please tell me. Of course, I don't think I'll get an answer from you because you'll see how foolish you look.
Karol you are right. Catsclaw and HShaver have their heads buried in the sand.
For all of you bleeding hearts trying to pretend that the mom is not ultimately responsible for the care of her children and she FAILED MISERABLY, SELFISHLY, and STUPIDLY in this instance you may want to try looking at the facts:
"Aliahna and her sisters were staying with Plumadore because their mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna's stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day."
The Flu? seriously the damn flu? That incapacitates you so much that you need to leave your 3 daughters with a greasy 39 year-old man in a trailer FOR DAYS!!
And the stepfather needs to sleep ALL DAY at the same time she has the Flu? BOTH OF THE PARENTS WERE HOME!!! If you think between the two of them they couldn't have watched their kids you are pathetic... caring parents could easily make that situation work and wouldn't put their children in the position that these neglectful selfish dimwits did. You take turns sleeping and there is caffine and flu medicine... they couldn't even make that much of a "sacrifice" so their own kids could be home during the holiday?
"Hey girls I know it's Christmas time and your home on Christmas break and exited about santa.... but mommy doesn't feel so good and daddy 'needs' to sleep, so you're all going to stay at the 39 year old single mans trailer for a few days..."
You actually think that even remotely resembles responsible parenting? Just because someone is poor doesn't mean that they aren't despicable, selfish, and uncaring... this women has obviously made a lot of bad choices in her life and never learned from them... it's too bad someone else had to pay for her actions.
It's sickening how many people have apparently bought into the political propaganda that being wealthy = "bad" while being poor = "victim". The fact that you are willing to excuse child negligence and a total lack of caring on the mothers behalf... because she made herself poor... is appalling.
He's been charged with murder, no mention of a sex assault. It's horrible either way, but with a child with ADD and emotional problems, it's a possibility he lost his temper and beat her to death.
For everyone who blames the parents for living with sex offenders, do you know the background of all your neighbors? The laws protecting their privacy make it possible for them to live among you with only law enforcement and school officials knowing who they are.
I agree with you,he possibly lost his temper and did something.She wasn't the only child there,maybe the siblings saw or heard something?
I think that many times these days, when some young "lady" has a child, they don't know who the biological father even is. That's a bad start out of the gate. I see this often around here( I am from Indiana).
o'really, I don't know what state you live in, but in Colorado (at least in my city) the police and sheriff's departments both have an online registry that list the names, addresses, and pictures, along with a brief list of their crimes. Of course the list is not complete due to people not registering as they should, but for me, this list gave me a little piece of mind when we were house hunting before my daughter was born. As far as the rest of my neighbors, I say hi and bye, maybe wave, and leave it at that...I think this, like many stories like it, is proof that some parents have children and just really don't know how to handle the responsibility. This little girl had emotional problems, so to leave her with someone who maybe doesn't know or understand what to do if she has an "episode" is like an open invitation for something to happen!
You have a sad existence if you don't mingle with neighbors. Some are bound to be great.
If found guilty, this man deserves to be cut alive in tiny pieces for what he did to this little girl. I have been praying for this girl to be found alive and I am completely crushed right now hearing the horrible news. The world has really really gone crazy!
Sounds mighty "christian" of you!
I assume you did not celebrate that holiday.
maybe your his parents believer, i agree with raco, its time for public justice.
I believe in My God and HE AGREE'S with RACO!!! It is TIME 4 A different approach! Imprisoning Mindless ANIMALS is JUST THAT>>Where's the JUSTICE for DEAD! DISMEMBERED!! ALIAHNA LEMMON???
Don Ray-3604403:
You're not helping your cause with that pile of gibberish. Type English if you want to be taken seriously.
i just wish that somebody would bail him out, then take him in the woods and just out right kill him.
It's so sad. Such a beautiful child. So vulnerable with her disabilities trying to make her way through life. Such evil persons who could do this to children like her. Prayers to her family. God has a special place in heaven for her where noone can ever harm her again.
"God has a special place in heaven..." Tell yourself whatever fairy tale you need to tell yourself to pretend this was all part of some grand plan that has a happy ending for a tortured, beaten, and dismembered little girl.
You would be dumbfounded to find that in an 'average' neighborhood there will be a majority of the residents that have criminal backgrounds, are preditors, or have some kind of mental issue that is a negative to the rest of the population in that area. However, we can only blame outselves by not forcing the cities where we live into exercising more strict rules for people that are slum lords and don't care who or what they rent to as long as they get their monthly rent check. They don't investigate these people - if the have the $$$$ they move in and the rest of the neighborhood can suffer for it! You end up calling the cops because of their activities when, if the city would pass 'nuisance property' rules against landlords that rent their houses to worthless people then you are going to have victims! It goes with the territory!
How could she not know, I lived in a subdivision with $150,000 homes as a single mother with two children. A neighbor came to me one day and asked if I knew that 3 sex offenders living in our neighborhood. I told her I had heard there was one living 3 houses from me but hadn't been able to verify it. She said she didn't know about that one and came back to me a week later and said that makes 4.
Your neighbor better watch out. She's invading the privacy of those poor sex offenders. My neighbor did the same thing and was sued by the sex offender. This is in New Jersey, home of Megan's Law.
Only the worst offenders are listed on the website. The rest are just known to law officials and schools. When my daughter's private school passed along a flyer they received to the parents, they got in a lot of trouble.
Not true. The sex offender registry of any state will show anyone and everyone forced to register.
You can readily look it up in California, the state provides a website that overlays their residences on Google Maps...
Incidentally.... they tend to cluster together.... I'm sure so the perverts can swap kiddie porn.
Many are harmless though, if you look at the details on some, they were 18 and convicted of having sex with the 16 year old girlfriend or something 10 years ago, hardly a menace to society, but there are plenty that are absolutely dangerous and should have to wear GPS monitors 24x7 for the rest of their days.
There are no excuses for the mother and step-father. None. The mother had a cold(as reported by local television stations) well tough. Every parent who has ever lived has not felt well and 99.999999999999% don't ship kids off to non-related felons. Being poor has nothing to do with this: being stupid and/or selfish has everything to do with this tragedy.
For the sake of the other two girls, I hope CPS gets them to a responsible relative or a safe foster home. The truth will come out and the sympathy for mom will evaporate. Mom handed her three innocent children over to a monster in what was gross negligence at a minimum or reckless indifference which is what I believe. Get the kids out of mom and stepdad's hair at all cost but don't go to family for child care because they already don't like the situation in that home, that's my theory. How long were the girls with this felon? Days?
A non-related male "family friend" with three felony convictions, who slept during the morning anyway when he was supposed to be "caring" for these three girls. Really Mom!? Really!? That was your best option!? Sounds like the easiest and the one that would bring you less questions than asking family or even your female friends(stepdad probably doesn't let you have those, they make you think for yourself).
My thoughts of condolence go to the victim and her two little sisters only. Live with this your entire lives mom and stepdad.
This is exactly what I'm saying then the mother proclaims the girl had mental and phyiscal problems. Then why in sam's hell would you want someone else caring for her??! It sounds to me like the parents were tired of being parents and often passed off their responsibilities. If the stepdad were sleep tell the kids to play in their room and be quiet or watch tv! No one can tell me that he was a trusted friend of the family and no one knew he had a record, people don't let that kind of gossip go by! I mean I just don't understand why if the kids were over there from what was said a whole day at least neither parent called to check on those girls, and that the mother didn't see or hear him drive off to go to the "gas station" and we know he left those girls longer than he said and the fact that the younger sisters didn't speak up leads me to believe they were witness to what happened to their sister or he terrified them into saying nothing. Because of all the little kids I know they tell EVERYTHING! These parents disgust me and like you said everyone will tell all their secrets. This has nothing to do with race, gender, it all comes down to bad parenting, ignorance, and bad decision making skills. These people defending this mother nad making millions of excuses for leaving her daughters with him are sad and pathetic. I mean look at this man's face and tell me that's someone you would want caring for your child when you can see he looks sketchy!
Thank you , you said that all needed to be said
EXACTLY--That is what I have been saying...
I'm glad that emotional zealots like you are not in charge of making important decisions. Get a life, and let the professionals handle the matter.
It absolutely amazes me how some people are able to rush to judgement in all these cases. They assume that they have the inside skinny on the whole situation because they read a couple of paragraphs in a news story and that makes them judge, jury and executioner!!!! Wow! They can "assume" exactly what went on because they see all, know all, think all..
Unlike these "stupid" parents, the above have never felt the difficulty of trying to find a home they can afford. Unlike these "stupid" parents they have never had to deal with a situation they feel unable to handle. Unlike these "stupid" parents they have never made a stupid call because they were too sick or too poor to do what is right. The only blessing to this is that as the world turns, the judges have built some karma they will have to live down. They will have to learn what it is like to be condemned by a community for what they didn't know and couldn't choose.
I could point out that in spite of living in a trailer park that also houses 15 "sexual offenders" it wasn't the sexual offenders that did this to the child. So why is that an issue here? Why is it an issue that needed to be reported in the news story? Because that makes the parents guilty by the association?
Much as I hate to point it out, even "felons" that have served their time in prison have the right to live under a roof. So you make stricter laws to keep them out of your precious neighborhoods and since most of us don't care to freeze out in the cold you have abetted the "felon" to commit another crime to survive. How very kind of you. Surface logic at it's worst.
Before you do your little rush to judgement, try to imagine the pain, guilt and suffering that family is suffering. There is nothing you can say to condemn them that they aren't already saying to themselves. So don't load up your bandwagon with more shame for them. It really isn't affecting your private little world. Just admit you don't know it all and back off.
grama: And THAT is what needed to be said! Unfortunately, the rational approach never gets very far in these vines...
Sadly rational is not found here. Some here would like to blame some political cause for all the ills of the world. People, get over yourselves! A little girl is gone and a family destroyed. Save the hatred for another day please.
Before you go spewing judgements over this woman's life, maybe you should all check the registry for offenders in your area. They don't just reside in trailer parks you know! They live everywhere.
Very sad for the little girl. However, grandma, it's OK for you to point out the facts and that's not judgement right? LOL. And Tammy sweetie, I do check the registry. And I sure as heck have NEVER left my kids w/ anyone other than my own parents or in laws who do are not freaks and do not have a criminal record. I know some may take offense by this, but I would never leave my child w/ alone w/ a man. Men who are too eager to help you w/ your kids are more than likely sex offenders - every alarm bell should be going off. Even when I was throwing up for 24 hours straight, I did not send the kids over to my in laws who I trust completely. Why? They are MY kids, MY responsibility. They had stomach flu too and I didn't want to burden my in laws and thought they NEEDED THEIR MOM AND DAD. No excuses here please. I hope this little angel is safe up in heaven - deeply disturbing as I have a 9 yo daughter myself.
Julia...you are absolutely correct.
No the mother did not have a cold. I'm from the area. Do you always believe what you people read in the papers? She's been really ill, in and out of the ER, and reportedly once even in ICU. Get off your high horse and do stuff to change the system to keep offenders off the streets, and in jail. Or how bout we do as our country used to and fricken hang the bastards. The mother had no way of knowing, and had no way of living elsewhere. Its great your lucky enough to not have to live in a sex offender neighborhood. However, the man that did this didn't even have a sex offender record. It was small criminal record out of Florida. You people need to get your facts strait before you ump on your band wagon to persecute a mother who is no doubt judging her self enough without you people adding to it. Why don;t you do a search and see if your neighborhood is any better. If it is, then great, your lucky. This mom as far as we know had no way to know he was dangerous, and she new him over 4 years. Lets face back ground checks are expensive. The only people who do those are rich rich people that think there pooh don't stink. AS for the average person, yeah there isn't money in the budget of living to spend 30 40 $ on a check that may not even show anything. Instead of attacking the mom, get off your high horses and attack the man that killed her. Attack the courts systems for not having stricter laws, attack our system for time and time again allowing these monsters to escape the system after their known as a offender. So stop acting as if you actually care, while your joining he newest which hunt! If you do care then do the right thing and go actively try to change laws, and our justice system, so these men might actually face the death penalty. To create some fear of our system. Right now, criminal think our system is a joke. Go do that and stop being losers that chat on some link about something they think they know. As for me, I do care and actively was helping to find this girl when she was missing. It hurt me so bad when I was informed she was dead, and found. Go do something better with your worthless lives!
"The mother had no way of knowing, and had no way of living elsewhere"
*rolls eyes*
The latest article to come out about this reveals that this little girl's grandfather was a sex offender and the 'only reason' the mother moved in with her father is because he had emphysema and she had to 'take care of him'. What is outrageous is, around the time the mother moved in, she questioned her father about the scumbag who ended up killing her daughter!!!! She explicitly asked him if she had to worry about this vermin touching her daughter.
My sympathy for this "mother" is dwindling. If you ever have to question whether you think a man would cause harm to your child(ren) then you have NO business, NEVER, EVER EVER EVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRR leaving your children with him. Even if your child molesting father tells you he's "safe". This lady needs to have her other kids taken away because clearly, her judgement is not intact.
"The mother had no way of knowing, and had no way of living elsewhere"
*rolls eyes*
The latest article to come out about this reveals that this little girl's grandfather was a sex offender and the 'only reason' the mother moved in with her father is because he had emphysema and she had to 'take care of him'. What is outrageous is, around the time the mother moved in, she questioned her father about the scumbag who ended up killing her daughter!!!! She explicitly asked him if she had to worry about this vermin touching her daughter.
My sympathy for this "mother" is dwindling. If you ever have to question whether you think a man would cause harm to your child(ren) then you have NO business, NEVER, EVER EVER EVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRR leaving your children with him. Even if your child molesting father tells you he's "safe". This lady needs to have her other kids taken away because clearly, her judgement is not intact.
Julia, the most trusted friend and sitter I have is a man. He is 350lbs and 6 foot 7. I can say that my children are very safe with him. May I remind you of the many women that have just killed their children or somehow lost them. Not all men are sex addicts or such. So, Julia sweetie...stop judging others without all the facts.
Why didn't she leave them with the grandparents - a single male trusted friend with 3 felonies, nice choice mom.