I am gay and I don't understand what all the fuss is about, every parent was a porn star from time to time, what's the difference. She sounds like a very sweet young lady who enjoys being a mentor to children....not a crime there.
every parent was a porn star from time to time, what's the difference.
I have no idea what you meant by this comment; even in my single days "I was not a porn star". However, I do think you are right and the parents are just being overly cautious. As long as the reading material was suitable for their age I see nothing wrong with it.
I believe they were making a reference to the fact that all parents did the same things she did for two years to procreate those children that she was reading to, and they are right. I will admit that I had sex, dirty, rotten, NAKED, and dont let me forget AWESOME sex to procreate ALL 4 of my kids.
"every parent was a porn star from time to time"...what an ignorant generalization to make. had to throw the "I'm gay " part in there to feign some twisted moral high ground
I have no idea what you meant by this comment; even in my single days "I was not a porn star".
I guess not all of us were born with the appropriate tools or mindset to be porn stars. I'm in agreement with those who have no issues with her lending her time and reading skills.
Oh My God! Why do we still have people like this in the world? I mean, what ever happened to common sense and just plain decency? She was NOT naked, she was NOT having sex, she was reading kids stories to kids, who did NOT know she had a past in porn, and now, because of their intolerance, they are probably catching wind, and starting to google her name.
Talk about lame. If they had just been decent and forgiving in their own hearts, national attention would not have focused on this, and not one single kid would have remembered her name by next week. Now... like I said, they are going to google her. Then goggle her...
Oh what a shocker! The gay guy is in support of the porn star>
And in another shocker, a bigot stereotypes all gays as supportive of porn. Who has the high ground here again? I agree with another commenter...unless parents are letting their kids watch Sasha Grey's porn flicks how would they even know? How many of the critics here have ever volunteered their time to read to kids? I think it is admirable. She's actually DOING something to help education rather than standing on the sidelines throwing stones.
Buttzie (wow), you're a typical example of how gays are perverse at heart. When you people parade, you dress like obscene freaks. You're obsessed with abnormal physical relationships so much that you are DEFINED by them. We wouldn't refer to ourselves as heterosexuals other than to differentiate from your type, who DEFINES themselves by abnormal behavior. That said, who cares what you think. You're an idiot and a sicko.
@Texanone what does u being gay have anything to do with this story? An Sasha u are more than welcome to be role model for any of my kids. I wish i could have sex for lots of money pleasure than hay more pleasure think about it.
I can almost guarantee the ones complaining are the naggin wives, the fellows are probably going wow...nice, where was I that day son?
Get a life ladies, the kids probably had a pretty good day, it's never fun trying to make sense out of polynomials all day, once in a while ya need to let it loose and live a little....right kidos?
There is an obvious difference between a couple who privately have sex, especially with intent to have a child, and a pornstar. It's on a comparable level of comparing a doctor who prescribes antibiotics to help an individual recover from illness and drug dealer. The latters are not individuals whom should be interacting with elementary children.
I think it's unrealistic of you to expect Evangelical Christians to actually follow the teachings of Christ. Jesus said a lot of things that they'd rather forget he said, like love your neighbors, share with the poor and the one that really gets me is how they love to bash gays, which is only mentioned in a couple verses (and not in the way they think it is) yet the entire chaper of Mark 10 is devoted to denouncing divorce, yet, according to the 700 Cult themselves, the #1 demographic in the USA getting more divorces than anyone else are, you guessed it, EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS! Now, who's really threatening the sanctity of marriage? The 4-6% of the population that is gay, or the 51% of Evangelical Christians perpetrating all these divorces?
There's probably nothing wrong with it until they google her name and see what that leads to. If they have internet access, well, let's just say that it should be an eye opening experience. And as far as "everyone being a porn star", it's not quite like walking in on your parents.
Umm Cheddar- So its jealousy that is leading you all to dislike her? I say that she did what she had to to make money, and then she moved on and up and became something bigger and better than you could ever possibly hope for. Maybe she was a porn star because she was a hot homeless chic, and did whatever she had to to get out of it? You have no clue and neither do I. Maybe you shouldnt judge.
Doc- Imma chic. Imma chic that dislikes porn. I dont see an issue with her reading to kids. I think its the people who are uncomfortable with their sexuality that are objecting to this. Not just the chics, k? I dont really dig it, but whatever, at least she can read, and that will just teach kids that "hey, even porn stars read!"
The people that are complaining need to grow up. She was not naked in the classroom and they were not showing her films. She was there reading to the children, showing support for education and literacy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with her being there and if these narrow minded idiots did not make such a big deal about it, the kids would never have even know about her background beyond her mainstream acting roles if that.
I just have to ask the obvious- if she were a parent in that school, would they move to have her kid moved because of her occupation? THAT makes ya wonder.
First, we are making an issue of this when all she did was read to some school kids and she felt proud for doing so. Second, as for the mural concerns...who wants to be the first to pick up a stone and throw it? Look, do some searches for teachers who are being busted almost weekly for sexual abuse of students, besides what has happened at Penn State and you are in for some disgust beyond this young woman and her trying to change her life for the better. get over yourselves.
I get a little sick of hearing comments like yours from people about Christains because let me tell you, I am a christain and I do not ever BASH Anyone. The Bible clearly taught that those who commit homosexuality will NOT inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Yet, It doesnt tell me to hate them! It doesnt tell me to hate anyone! I agree that many people who call themselves Christains do things and say things that are contrary to the Bible they say they beleive. And that is where you get all the " Thats your interpretation" crap! But dont you dare say Christains Bash anyone because those who are TRUE Christains do not bash anyone!! It is those who call themselves Christains and pretend to know the word and those who go to church because it "Makes" them a better person who are being fake. Going to a builing and listening to someone say things you really dont agree with and then finding ways to twist your own actions into being true does not make you One with Christs teaching. And the only way one is a Christain is if God sees them found in Christ before the foundation of this world. People will make up their own Jesus and worship him and call themselves Christains. Why? Because that Jesus thinks just like they do! And they are Good at manipulating whatever they do into being Christain and then pulling the wool over many peoples eyes because most people have no clue what it means to really be a Christain. But from now on say, "Those who Call themselves" or "Some people who call themselves Christain". Dont say "Christains" because the Bible defines who a Christain is. Not someone who goes to church or someone who says they asked jesus into their heart.
I'm happy there are a lot of grown ups in this thread.
The woman seems to be making every attempt to turn her life around. Not being in porn films for 2 years at the age of 23 is almost 10% of your entire existence on the planet. It's also wise to note that she started very young, for reasons none of you know, and actually became very famous in her time. (She was a darn good porn actress)
Yet she put all that behind her and is committed to helping these children read, more so then most parents in Compton, CA probably, and acted in a completely appropriate way and from everything we can tell. The kids loved it and she did a good job. So leave her alone, and let her get on with her life.
And for the extreme bible trumpeters out there, two words: Mary Magdalene.
I would love to have Sasha Grey read me a story. I prefer it be a bedtime story and in private. I don't want it on tape, but that is besides the point. People need to lighten up. She has changed her ways and wants to contribute to society. Isn't that what GOD wants us to do? Turn from sin and do the righteous things?
OK....let's get a grip on ourselves here. IMHO Ms. Grey did an admirable thing, reading to FIRST and THIRD graders. They probably really enjoyed it; she seemed to! Does anyone really believe that even one of those kids knows about her checkered past? Do we really believe that a six or eight year old would google her (if so, where the heck are the parental controls?) How could (why would) mom or dad tell their kids about her past without opening up a whole can of worms? I sure wouldn't have wanted that conversation with either one of my boys when they were that age. Instead maybe mom and dad should volunteer themselves to read at school in the future.
Ms. Grey has made positive changes to her life. Why aren't we congratulating her, and then thanking her for taking the time for reading to our children?
I'm Sure they have a definition for any mud you want to throw buddy.
I didnt come here to get into a religious debate with an atheist. I have enough of those daily. I know God exists and anyone who actually talks to me for more then an hour walks away with a new found respect for Christains. Real ones.
You dont have to believe at all if you dont want to. But trying to lump all Christains in one mold that none are true is dead wrong. you see in Christianity there is the fact that the Spirit is inside the person and makes an effectual change in their life. Example= when I became a Christain I didnt know sleeping around was looked upon as sin, No one told me that, Yet I could no longer go meet someone at a bar and sleep with them without heavy feelings of wrongdoing which never seemed wrong before. And it took a pastor and me reading it in the bible to see it was wrong to actually put together what had taken place inside me on that issue. So, If you think someone who is Bashing Gays can be lumped in with all who call themselves Christains just because they may call themselves one you would be wrong. Its ok, No hard feelings that you are wrong. You can lump them in if you like. But it doesnt change the facts that the people who have a change take place spiritually (On the inside) are Christains and it shows on the outside. And those who have hate and no change on the outside are NOT Christains.
So your comment is typical but means very little to me since it is coming from someone who obviously does not know God.
There are TRUE Christains. I know there are. I am one of them.
@Michael LEIN, Holy crap. You didn't spell "Christian" correctly ONE time. Though somehow, you spell "Christianity" right? You're trolling. You must be.
"There is an obvious difference between a couple who privately have sex, especially with intent to have a child, and a pornstar. It's on a comparable level of comparing a doctor who prescribes antibiotics to help an individual recover from illness and drug dealer. The latters are not individuals whom should be interacting with elementary children."
Jesus, when did you return? No wait, your Eric. So Eric, when did the creator turn the reins over to you and make you the overall judge of people?
There is an obvious difference between a couple who privately have sex, especially with intent to have a child, and a pornstar.
Eric, are you saying that the only 'acceptable' reason for sex is to procreate? In that case then, the numero uno reason for food is Nutrition Only... So the next time you dig into that big plate of Lasagna.. we'll be watching! ;)
The only trouble with your analysis is that in all the scenarios you mentioned.. no one is harmed against their will. In all the scenarios you described everyone involved is a willing participant. That's what living in a free society is all about.
Good for Ms. Gray! - she's smart, she's savvy, she's aggressive and I admire her style.
Her career is floundering and she needed the publicity.
Question for the school:
As the article stated, why didn't you find a fireman or policeman willing to read to the kids? What idiot superintendant didn't see this coming? Regardless of your opinion on porn stars, the occupation of fireman or law enforcement is many times more noble than 'porn star'...
well shes 1000x better then nikki haley a nazi governer who speaked at SC schools. yes maybe a porn star is inaportiapte for schools but many women live a inapropaite lifesytle, more then half of them do. as long as shes profesinal in the school it should not be a big deal.
Well...having never heard of her...I googled her up, watched a movie, and one could say that I came to the conclusion that it may have been best to leave her out of the school.
I would - however - like to ask her out for dinner sometime.
Porn Star: An actress or Actor who is paid to participate in various forms of intercourse.
Sex: An act between two (or more) people performing intercourse.
Blitzed Sex: An act between two(or more) people that one of them decided would be cool until they break up and share the tape publicly (Ie Paris Hilton,) Still does not make them Porn Stars.
So not that we mince words on the Vine, Unless your getting paid to perform in a magazine, video, or stage, Your not a porn star. Even if you last longer than the four hour limit for viagara, sorry, It's not the same. So we can move that comment out that we are all porn stars, You are not that good, just ask one of your exes.
I do not recognize the name Sasha Grey, most likely because I do not seek that form of entertainment out now that Im a tad bit older. The fact that she was appearing on a syndicated television show nationally was probably the more direct reason she was allowed to participate.
I am sure that none of the kids were disappointed with someone famous reading stories to them, and for those that feel SHE shouldnt have been reading, (or been replaced by a fireman, or police officer) why don't you find the time to volunteer.
IT seems to me that with McGruff, and the Various Shows, and Explorer programs (and the complete participation of the LA, Orange, and San Bernadino, San Fernando Counties FD's and PD's programs for youth is very adequate. 1000's of Children show up for those, and participate, It's the adults that never show. It's still the same with our communities, and our schools.
Leadership starts at the bottom, training, caring, teaching, sharing, showing, and helping them grow, you'll be amazed at what they can do when you give them hope.
We can't fix the old dogs (Politicians) and the college generation is barking up the wrong tree (OWS vs Bankers when it should be the POLITICIANS), and then we leave the next generation to fend for themselves (children)?
Nice to see so many opinions.If I may quote myself"opinions are like as-----s,everybody elses stinks"Gr8 so many are experts on parenting skills.Funny how despite their lack of access to social media how much previous generations got right on raising children.But yeah,go ahead and throw the baby out with the bath water.Indulge yourself.Yeah,..........no Js husband
I suggest you go back and read my original post. I didn't generalize about ALL Christians, I was speaking about EVANGELICAL Christians. Those who follow the docterine of John Nelson Darby, the preacher from the 1850's who invented the idea of a pre-tribulation "rapture" (which incidentally is mentioned NOWHERE in the new testament.) John Nelson Darby started a ministry based on hate, fear, selfishness and intolerance, which directly conflicts with the teachings of Christ. Those who follow this docterine are often the ones who equate Christianity with right wing political beliefs. "True Christians" know that Jesus was not a fan of ANY political systems, and often spoke about the evils of politicians.
Also, your assertion that those who commit homosexual acts will not enherit the kingdom of heaven is patently incorrect. There are a couple of verses that address homosexuality, where it is referred to as an "abomination", however, these texts were incorrectly translated from the original hebrew. The word used, which was incorrectly translated as "abomination" actually mean that it was a deviation from tradition. If we look at the verse in Leviticus, which anti-gay groups like to use so much, where it is called an "abomination" for a man to lie with a man as he would with a woman, and should be put to death, and we go back just a couple of verses, we see that Moses also says that eating shrimp is an "abomination" and those who do so should also be killed. So why do we not also condemn those who eat shrimp as we do homosexuals? Becasue, again, it is NOT a sin, nor is homosexuality, it is merely a deviation from tradition.
Chris slow down. Your meshing two different instances there, both of which are corrected by the New Testament, JESUS speaking of nothing is Evil that goes into a man (eating) but that which spews forth from his mouth (lies, deciet, treachery, etc). So those that argue about the immorality of sin (whichever sin), find that only one path lay towards redemption, forgiveness from believing in CHRIST who died on the cross.
Now lets look at the Cross, to further show your point on rapture, (which does exsist) but not for any living man. For it is appointed to all men(mankind) to die once, and then salvation. So I agree there is no pre-tribulation rapture. In fact specifically it points out that after JESUS died (the thief on the cross, and the SAINTS who had died before joined In the rapture)
Back to your point on the verse in Leviticus, translated correctly on the word "abomination" , two entire country (city-states) were destroyed most specifically for THAT "abomination". Yet, instead of calling it an abominations, you merely use semantics and change it to "merely a deviation from tradition"? Why bother changing the words If it really means the same thing in your mind.
Please don't get up, I see you already put your case to rest. I hope you can put your prejudice to rest.
Good for her! Former drug users and alcoholics are brought in to talk to kids all the time. At least she didn't break any laws or endanger anyone. She is advocating education, not sex, so leave her alone.
I didn't even Know who Sasha Grey was/is much less that she was/is an ExPorn Star. How is it that All these Upstanding Parents Know Who she is and What She did for a Career? Perhaps They were Closet Admirers of her Skills?
For all of you who are not familiar with the talented Miss Sasha Grey, I invite you to head on over to Pornhub.com, and enter Sasha Grey into the search box. I believe you'll be amused at what you see :)
Sasha Grey is not your run-of-the-mill porn star. Sasha Grey is the very essence of what the porn industry represents, she is the Queen of all things disgusting and rancid, she is the representation of everything none of us would do, but love to watch.
But seriously....I think it's great she's reading to kids and stuff, whatever helps her sleep at night :)
At least she's willing to read those kids. Maybe if more parents would go to their kids' schools and take a more active role in their kids' educations, examples of generosity like this wouldn't be so rare as to make the news.
Emphasis is on the word "ex" here. This young lady is obviously trying to mend her past and people need to give her a break! I worry more about prudish uptight parents attitudes on kids more than I do this young lady!
if it weren't for the self-righteous religious fanatics and the media, the kids and 99 percent of america would never have known who she was and what had done in the past. christian fudamentalist blow up clinic; muslim extremeist blow up cafes and themselves wheres the difference; oh the christian fundamentalist are still around to persecute and annoy the rest of us
I read the article. Where did it say anything about Christian parents or Christians at all? Looks like the atheist and Christian haters have jumped the gun. Can i mention gun in a school story? Anyway,some parents Christians or not just don't like the idea of a former peter puller for money being around their children. Even a cop is no better as someone suggested in the story. Some of them cheat, lie and are crooks as well. A lot of people who aren't Christians don't think porn is right. Hell i even find it tacky myself.
I'm sure they could find SOMEONE in L.A. who ISN'T a former porn star, drug user, DUI offender, alcoholic, adulterer, criminal or con-artist? Maybe they could have gotten the former Governor to read to the kids.. hmm.. no he's busy with his mistress. Maybe the L.A. Sheriff... no, he's accused of inmate abuse. Maybe one of the honorable LA City Council members.. no, there's that convention center thing. Maybe a LA County Judge.. Silberman, no. Hey, where's cute little Disney star and LA resident Lindsey Lohan??
The most symbolic images presented at an early age of a child's development will reside with them for years to come. The learning stage in symbolic, experiential and written information is critical to a child's present and future well being and development. Perhaps the symbolic image presented ('A Ex- Porn Queen') as her movies remain stardom for years to come will be a reminder to each child when they grow up about their early exposure to this role model in a school classroom and education. The advancement of sciences; psychology, sociology and technology is aiding humanities progress and ideology through media, script writers and politics. The parents appear helpless as if their voices do not matter of whom and how their children will be educated in public schoolrooms.
LMAO ...the parents knew she was a former porn star. Hmmm how did they know that? Maybe they should be reading to their kids and watching a little less porn.
As long as the kids don't know her past profession. I'm sure she didn't tell the kids, "Hey, I'm an ex-porn star. Great way to launch your career in Hollywood." I made some mistake in my early 20's but I grew up & changed, by the grace of God, and I was always very active in my kids PTA. When these kids are old enough to google porn stars, they won't remember she read to them. Chances are they've already forgotten her name.
PS Parents, go in and volunteer at your kids school. If you're concerned about who's in class w/ your kids, get in there yourself. If you ain't volunteering, you have no right to complain!
There's no question whatsoever that Sasha Grey has a publicist who's advised her to do charitable work, in order to build the groundwork for a career in mainstream entertainment.
This isn't cynicism, it's how the celebrity system works. Who knows, Ms. Grey may actually be quite fond of children. While she hasn't shown any outstanding talent as an actress, she's a shrewd and ambitious girl, and porn star does not equal unfeeling monster.
However, no one is allowed to complain about Ms. Grey unless he or she immediately signs up for some kind of charitable public service. There are plenty of opportunities these days.
The READ ACROSS AMERICA events are well publisized and the celebrities announced. The parents were TOLD who this "celeb" was and they have every right to be upset!
Its no accident that they sent her to the Compton school. They knew d*cks like you guys would think less of the parent than you would a porn star (who has only done 2 legit projects)!
HOW GREAT TO KNOW THAT MOST AMERICANS JUDGE CUTE, WHITE PORN STARS LESS HARSHLY THAN "THOSE PEOPLE" WHO LIVE IN COMPTON!
HOW GREAT TO KNOW THAT MOST AMERICANS JUDGE CUTE, WHITE PORN STARS LESS HARSHLY THAN "THOSE PEOPLE" WHO LIVE IN COMPTON!
We're not judging any of the parents that have an IQ in the double-digits, just the ones in the single digits that had a problem with this. They are retards.
Guess what? There's nothing illegal about the porn actress' former career. Furthermore she's done nothing that the parents didn't do when they conceived their kids. But unlike those retards, this former porn actress knows how to read.
Mac--I'm with you. What's the fuss when classrooms are understaffed and someone volunteers. I be far more concerned it a priest, a football coach, or a member of the religious right read to the lads and lasses. Even worse--- not corporate banker, a stock broker, or a mortgage lender.
Freda is half right. I will judge the parents. Judging people is fair. You do it based on how they are. Did this lady kill anyone, or say something was bad when it wasn't? Was she trying to do something good?
Are the parents helping literacy, en-masse, or sitting on their collective, pathetic judgemental butts?
Excluding the porn-star issue.... I bet these same parents are also the types who allow their kids watch movies where people are being raped or blown apart, while at the same time refusing to allow their kids to understand that the human body is something that is natural and good, instead of dirty and shameful.
Why don't these parents worry about the real problems like BULLYING instead of creating issues out of good deeds by citizens like Sasha Grey who is doing what she can for the betterment of society?
Yes, she WAS a pornstar, but that's not all there is.
She is a good citizen, at least i'm sure of that. To those parents, what have you done for the socitey lately aside from COMPLAIN?
Funny. Not long ago, I read an article about kindergarden children being taught about a 'different kind of family' from a transvestite, all about homosexual rights.
But when a reformed porn star wants to teach children appropriate school subjects, we make a fuss.
So ... let's see now... she read to the students... that's it..? And the "parents" are upset...why...? It doesn't say what grade these students she read to were in, but usually, if someone comes in to be read to... they surely are not the age that would watch "Entourage"...!
So what are they complaining about...? That they weren't invited to the reading ????
The parents were to judgemental, because in the Bible Jesus was talking with a woman who was a prostitute and the villagers were going to stone her, but Jesus said to the villagers that whoever is without guilt cast the first stone. After Jesus said that, they all left and no one threw a stone. Jesus said to her, where are you acusers, then he said for her to go thy way, and sin no more.
It seems that the parents just wanted to ridicule her, and not give her a chance to put the past behind her, and be the person that gives back to the community which it appears that they were not. Where is the forgiveness that they should have for one another.
So what are they complaining about...? That they weren't invited to the reading ????
Oh, wait, suddenly a valid complaint has been raised... yeah, where's my invite?? I want a porn star to read to me... hell I just wanna say I was in the same room with a porn star once in my life.
it's funny how there are parents who oppose her from talking in front children... but don't think twice about a cop doing the same thing where he shows the class the gun he uses to shoot people with! ;)
OK lets see here how any responsible parent would know who this person was... I don't know lets try Google. No seriously any one who comes around my kids I or my wife research, that means I look at their face book, MySpace, image search, and regular Google search. Now that being said when you pop up images like what Mrs. Grey does you are not an Ex porn star thanks to the internet you are now and forever more a porn star. Which also I hate to say is not much different form a hooker. I mean she has sex and get paid for it so it's basically the same thing depending on how you look at it. Now with all that said I COMPLETLY agree with the parent complaint about this woman in the school. The things she has done with her life is not something I want my kids looking up to.
Tell you what...When Sasha Grey gets busted having sex with an underage minor AND/OR recruit them into doing kiddie porn, then I'll join you with the pitchforks and torches; BUT UNTIL THEN, I am NOT going to join a lynch mob SOLELY on the fact that she was a porn star and decided to make a change in her life by reading to children!!!
I would rather focus my energy on getting "No Child Left Behind" repealed, stop these anti-union laws that are harming our teachers, vote out GOP/TPers that want to shutdown the Department of Education, and bring back funding to school programs that help keep our children off the streets and away from gangs.
Will those complaining/whining parents volunteer to read in their child classroom?? One thing i know is she doesn't teach her skills to the kids and are those parents jealous of her skill and just secretly admired her film perfomance. Then parents should stop complaining and volunteer some time to read in classroom.
It's just amazing to see all the hypocrites in this thread. Preaching, how her past is just so terrible, they can't bear the thought of her reading Dr. Seuss to their kids. If the parents are worried their kids will Google her and see what she has done in the past, there is a simple solution to fix that. It's called parent block, it filters out the porn so your kids don't see it.
Also, if your going to get all high and mighty about her past, I hope your going all the way and filtering, just about all tv out of your kids life. As 95% of television shows are either filled with violence, or sexual references. Then there is the video game arena, music on the radio, and even G rated movies are starting to have more and more violence and lite sexual references. I hope your censoring all that as well.
She started out in Porn, so what, she wasn't promoting it.
I'm sure I get some hollier than thou types upset with what I just said. Grow up people.
I'm glad all the little girls could be read to by an upstanding moral character who could inspire them to enter a lucrative and self-esteem building career where they don't fall prey to sexists and perverts.
Mac--I'm with you. What's the fuss when classrooms are understaffed and someone volunteers. I be far more concerned it a priest, a football coach, or a member of the religious right read to the lads and lasses. Even worse--- not corporate banker, a stock broker, or a mortgage lender.
I gave you an up tick. Normally I agree with pretty much everything you post. However, I have some thoughts to add to this one. You forgot the ever corrupt politicians. The problem with having her presence in a school where young minds are being formed is what she morally stands for. True, some would say that she hasn't hurt anyone. I say she is part of the hypocrisy we have within our society regarding what is right and not right to display in public. It sends a message to young minds that it is ok to prostitute oneself for money. It says to young girls what you have between your legs is a gold mine to explore. Just look at what is 'hot' on TV these days. Total human wastes such as kardashian and that Jersey shore thing make millions while our young minds waste their youths watching such useless drivel which add no value to society. We have really messed up our moral and social values.
I don't know what this woman acted in, but so long as she's behaving appropriately with the kids, and her background involves no victim crimes, why aren't we just saying "thank you, ma'am?" ;)
Well, because we're prudes, of course. Always have been, apparently always will be. I'm one myself. But not so much of one that I think there's anything wrong with this situation, or with porn in general, (excluding the sick stuff that involves violence).
If these same parents allow their kids to watch TV or listen to rap, they're exposing them to porn, and much of the very sick variety. How many families are "entertained" through dinner by watching a woman being raped and brutally murdered on crime-time TV? That's not porn?
I've always wondered about that myself. What's the difference between a porn "star" and a prostitute? They both have sex for money and the porn star lets everybody watch her work. Is it because we as a society have such love for the arts?
If she was just a volunteer I have no problem with it. It she was introduced as an honored guest because of her work in film, we are telling those kids, this is a role model. Don't think those kids won't Google her or see the story on TMZ. The school could have made a better choice.
the other person isnt paying for sex to be performed on them, and they all have to be licensed and tested regularly. Its watched by the government. Differences of laws only. Morally, its the same except its not being done to you, but for you, I guess.
Kinda like the SEC watches wall street, huh? If the gov. can regulate the porn industry then why not regulate the sex industry as a whole. Simple, a good health card with monthly doctor's visits like it is done in Holland. No good health visit no nooky. This can even generates taxes. This would stop my tax dollars from going into the police, legal, and prison system supporting a hypocritical stance that would marginalize one group of people and elevate another.
Ineptia, you sound like someone who has some issues. I"m sure there is a free clinic somewhere in your area. You might want to think about making an appointment. ASAP! I'd rather have my kids read to by someone like Sasha Gray, who at least is honest, rather than a hypocritical moralist like yourself! Get real!
Meanwhile... two weeks after the woman reads the story... the kids cannot even remember what the woman's name is when asked... and most likely will not recognize her even if she walks past them...
The parents on the other hand... they will be aroused by this for years...! I wonder who was the "stand up" parent who knew she was a porn star... the one who started the ball rolling? Wonder which film of hers he/she liked the best !!!
Surely, the school did not send a flyer home with a student saying a porn star was doing a reading on such and such day and time...! ??? !
Welcome to the 21st century version of parenting with it's noble members......!
A.C., better yet how did the "stand up" parent even know the gal was a porn star? I agree with you. Really make you wonder what they and spouse/partner have been watching! Isn't 21st century hypocrisy in parenting a wonderful thing?
Ed-NavDoc: She does mainstream work too. Outside of Jenna Jameson, she is probably the best-known porn chick in non-porn circles (which isn't saying much).
Every night Chris Matthews says that all Americans must be spayed or neutered. Like a lot of pet owners I took Bob Barkers advice about pets. Let's all chip in a buy Chris Matthews a set of used genitals. Watch the idiot look on his face when sex gets mentioned.
Or maybe the US should get over thinking it's a forgiving, Christian nation, and admit it's a paranoid bunch of prudes who all think the stork delivered them on the doorsteps of parents who also never excrete any waste while waiting to go the hell.
The US has got to get over their paranoia about sex and nakedness. We were all born naked and we do have sex. Geesh...
She didn't have sex or get naked at the school, she read. The problem I suspect is that many of those parents are too ignorant to be able to read and thus suffered from jealousy.
people have sex. some make movies of themselves having sex for their job. it's okay. the kids are going to grow up to...have sex! some of it gay sex! noooooooooooooooo!!
You seem to have missed the point that most have understood. She is a Former porn star and wanted to Help out in the Reading project. She didn't talk about sex or explain about her former movie career.
The fact you overlook is the depravity in mixing sex or something of a deviant sexual nature with children. As evident by the fiasco at Penn State, opinions vary as to what is acceptable behavior where children are concerned. The parents objecting are not suffering from paranoia but modesty; something you and a lot of others seem to be unfamiliar with. Not everyone shares your opinion of where sex and nakedness are appropriate, a public classroom is no place for a harlot; retired or otherwise. (She chose her occupation and reputation, I am not being judgmental) If their wasn't something rotten about this situation there would be no controversy, another example of great news reporting on the part of msn and their tabloid news mentality.
My question is: Of all the positive influences available for reading to students, why was this woman chosen? Someone has an agenda here and this is another example of the camel’s nose being under the tent. What’s next playing one of her movies in art class to teach the kids about human anatomy? It all depends on one’s sense of value. While the children may have been unaware of her lack of moral character obviously others were not. Fortunately some of them were parents who prefer a better role model for their children. Keep the whores in the whore-house not in the school house.
While I’m sure I’ll be crucified for having an opinion in opposition of the majority posting on this story it is not something to scoff at and I remain thankful for the parents who took a stand for the sake of their children and doing what is right!
Realitycheck while reading your answer I was reminded of the woman caught in adultery. It appears, you would have been throwing a stone rather than recognizing that Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you: go, and sin no more". So, yes, you are judging. Maybe, instead of condemning her, you might try inviting her to church instead. Oh wait, you're not done pointing out her sin, rather than her redemption. I think I'd rather be her, than you, on judgement day. You've obviously missed the point of the whole Bible thing.
Lovely: calling her a whore and a harlot. How very Biblical.
Hmm, your ethical and moral past is so spotless, isn't it? Oh, yes, you're oh-so-Puritan and modest. You've never had an impure thought in your life, is that right? In fact, you're so morally and ethically superior that you feel entitled to call someone names. You feel entitled to look down your pinched, narrow little nose and denounce someone, as if you were anointed by God to pronounce judgment on anyone.
(Do you have proof of that, by the way? A certificate or something? No? Only your sense of superiority? Pity...)
Well, you're not alone, RealityCheck-blah-blah. There are thousands like you: religious fanatics who truly believe they're God's Chosen because they attend the Right Church (whichever crackpot sect of Evangelical or Pentecostal Christianity it may be) and, because you and others like you loudly proclaim your direct Mandate from the Almighty, feel entitled to throw feces at other people.
(The fact that you have done nothing to help those less fortunate than yourself, quite in opposition to your Savior's directives, matters not a bit to you, does it? "God helps those who help themselves." To as much as they can carry, that is. It's the thought that counts, doesn't it? Good deeds don't matter. Bragging about your moral purity certainly does.)
You're quite correct in that you're going to take a lot of heat for your primitive superstitions; you and all the other haters here who spend most of their time condemning others and none at all looking in their own hearts. Rightly so. Your reign here on earth, that of Kings and Queens and State Religions is a thing of the past. It's primitive. It's destructive. (Religious wars, anyone? Shall we shed more blood in the name of Christ? Yes, let's do just that!)
It's insane.
Fear is what drives you, my friend. Fear of punishment. Fear of eternal torture. Fear of a God who could fit into my God's pocket with room left over for the car keys and a fat wallet. Your God and your moral view is so small as to be virtually microscopic. Your fear of torture has driven you quite mad. I don't think you can be reasoned with any longer.
Please go away and get some help with your madness before it becomes necessary to lock you up.
Perpetual, comes to mind when I read some of these posts. Elementary aged children, under proper parental control, should not know what a porn star is nor what an ex-porn star has done unless they are told or she walks in dressed in a teddi and pops in a dvd for "show & tell"! But, she has only volunteered to READ to the children!! What is most evident is the unacceptable behavior of the so called adults/parents, who continue to perpetuate the "isms" in our culture - ageism, sexism, racism, classism, et cetera and, they are probably perplexed by the fact that our nation is so divided.
@Eejay, The isms were perpetuated when she was sent to a Compton school. While the program is in largely Black and Brown communities, there are (contrary to popular belief) poor white schools that require this program as well. It is unlikely that she could have been sent to any school without some sort of flap, but it is interesting that it was a school in Compton. Things are often done in the Black community that people won't try in the mainstream. I assure you that there are parents who read to there children, and raise them as well as anyone and their only crime is being poor. When those parents hear that a former porn star was reading to their kids, they have a right to be uncomfortable with that. Would their Beverly Hills counterparts be comfortable with her heading a fundraiser for them. Probably not. Just because people are poor, (and the the kids are in need) doesn't mean the attitude should be "let them be glad for what they get".
Bentbrass: michelle spoke of the Jesus I was taught the one who was tolerant of peoples weakness and ready to forgive those who sinned, why is it that today we have churches that practice a theology of my church is bigger, my minister has a bigger fancier car house etc. Why is the essence of his love forgiveness and protection of the weak absent from that christianity. Let the weak and the young the broken and injured come to him and let a young woman read to little children now that she has put aside her weakness.
All the religious people saying things....not one ever read John 8 and still lives by the word if he/she condemns anyone. Fact....It is a Job, Fact....It is Legal, Fact....it is against the law to predjudize. Has someone here decided they do not want to live by US law and Gods word? Then leave, go to where your socialist religous communties are welcome.
The fact you overlook is the depravity in mixing sex or something of a deviant sexual nature with children. As evident by the fiasco at Penn State, opinions vary as to what is acceptable behavior where children are concerned.
What happened at Penn State was, an adult forcing sex with students. Big difference.
a public classroom is no place for a harlot; retired or otherwise.
There you go, really thump on that bible now.
(She chose her occupation and reputation, I am not being judgmental)
WOW, your not? What do you call it then, cause I call that a lie.
Of all the positive influences available for reading to students, why was this woman chosen?
Maybe, because she was the only one who cared enough to volunteer?
What’s next playing one of her movies in art class to teach the kids about human anatomy?
Now your just being stupid and ridiculous.
Keep the whores in the whore-house not in the school house.
Again??? You said you weren't being judgmental. Your proving to be quite the liar.
While I’m sure I’ll be crucified for having an opinion in opposition of the majority posting on this story it is not something to scoff at and I remain thankful for the parents who took a stand for the sake of their children and doing what is right!
I am not "crucifying you" for your opinion (everyone is entitled to one, even hypocrites). If the parents are that concerned about this, why don't they actually be a parent, and discuss the situation with their kids. By being interactive with them about everything, instead of trying to make believe everything that is wrong or immoral in this world doesn't exist. The children will benefit greatly if their parents would actually sit down with them and discuss why they feel the way they do.
Do you honestly think that by banning a former porn star from reading to them, the children will grow up completely oblivious to the world of porn. Acting as though it doesn't exist, is not going to stop those kids from discovering it later in life. It just instills a sense of power to the parents, and gives the impression they are doing the right thing.
She was not promoting the porn industry, she was reading children's literature to them. Get over it your Holiness.
As M Rose and Kevin have pointed out I overstepped my bounds in inadvertently making this a personal attack against a young woman whose motives are uncertain at this point. Yes like M Rose and everyone else willing to admit it my closet is full of skeletons too, here I stand corrected although as afore mentioned I didn't intend to condemn her personally but rather the need to question the ethics of parents who love and want to protect their children from what they feel is the wrong kind of influence; it's their children let them decide who they desire as an influence while at school. As for name calling I took time to research what a woman accepting pay for sex is called and harlot and whore were just two of countless definitions found in several versions of on-line dictionaries; these are not my definitions but status quo for defining a womam who deals in sex for money. While I understand she claims to have left the profession I wonder if she still accepts royalty payments for services rendered in the past, if so then while she is "clean" technically, the grey shadow of the past will continue to follow her in and out of the classroom. Lastly I again regret making this a personal issue as such was not my intent, rather I feel this whole fiasco should have been left in the hands of those dealing with the situation personally and not be put in the spotlight for the sake of selling advertising.
As for M Rose, kevin and the other hate mongers out there (you are what you are) who despise anyone else having the audacity to dare post an opinion in opposition to theirs I hope you will consider that we all are capable of making mistakes and that a drop of honey goes farther than a gallon of vinigar. You can make your thoughts know without being so acidic and intolerant of others daring to have a personal thought that doesn't fit your mold. You can spew all the nasty comments you want but in doing so you too lose any credibility in the realm of critical thinking, accept that not everyone thinks the same and you are not the last word or final authority! To me no matter how you slice it pornography and public school don't mix, this is one of many areas where the end doesn't justify the means.
As for the young woman in the story I hope things work out for the best and that she is able to make a better life for herself outside the sex trade industry who ruins the lives of countless people on both sides of the fence for the sake of money.
Last thoughts; Upon re-reading the afore mentioned posts by Michelle Rose & kevin above (like myself at times) it is apparent they weren't thorough in reading all that was said in posts made by others before making reply.
First of all I wonder what it was in my post that made MRose fly off the handle and become so violent and hateful; I have to believe someone has an axe to grind in general about issues of self worth or confusion as to what is really good or right in the world and regrets decisions that were made in the past. Though some would desire the world accept diviant sexual behavior the fact remains that though some may try to juststify it not everyone will take every piece of bait that comes down off the side of the boat, you can lead a horse to water........
Secondly both made this an issue of "biblical proportions" when no mention of the Bible was made in my original post; to assume that someone who questions deviant sexual behavior or unnatural affection is a "Bible thumper" or "religious fanatic" is going out on a limb, and while I may be a God-fearing man my post was based on common sense. I agree with kevin in that parents should talk to their children about constructive lifestyles, I never suggested otherwise. I also agree we can not hide the world from our children but there is another side to the story. My point is that a child should not look up to or be exposed to role models whose lives usually wind up on a dead end street in one way or another. How many of Hugh Hefner's victims are still in the spotlight after the passing of time? After decades Mr. Hefner is the big winner and most of the women that sacrificed their bodies for the pleasures of a season now find themselves on the outside looking in. For instance if the woman in the story made a positive impression by her personality or physical appearance there might be a possibility that in the future a child might consider an opportunity in the sex trade, pornography etc. based on how it worked out for someone they perceived as charming and beautiful seeing only the outward appearance and not experiencing the heartache that comes with making bad choices and the price some pay for fame. For every "success" story there are countless others who wind up in a heap of trouble, their self esteem and emotional life destroyed. And though the money and publicity seems attractive for now, I wonder if such will remain the same for the "porn star" in years to come. Like all pretty girls the woman in the story won't always be beautiful or have the features she enjoys today, she will grow old like everyone else; and then what, another episode of "Sunset Boulevard"?
Thankfully for now the parents in this story still have the power to decide who will be making impressions on the lives of their children, and while opinions vary and some parents will make bad choices concerning their kids and exposure to the sickness of pornography, I hope most will do otherwise. I feel there is a legitimate concern here, the lives of innocent children are at stake!
realitycheck- Your continuing to cast judgment on her. Her past maybe immoral, I'm not going to dispute that, but she made a choice to remove herself from that lifestyle. She is trying to make a better life for herself, and help inspire children to learn. Maybe, instead of focusing on mistakes she has made, you should look at the good she is trying to do. Sasha herself, has admitted that her past is not something to be glorified, and knows that she is going to take a lot of flack from people like yourself for it.
It's not uncommon for ex-drug addicts to talk to kids about the dangers of drugs, why is it so hard to accept she is trying to change her life, and who knows, may even give talks in the future to young women about the dangers of the porn industry. She wouldn't be the first ex-porn star to speak out against the industry.
Realize I am not defending her choice to be a porn star, but that I am defending her choice to make a better life. People make mistakes, that's part of being human, it is not something they should have to pay for the rest of their life though.
Give her a chance, if she screws it up, then it's all on her. How can she prove herself a better person though, if people are going to constantly throw her mistakes in her face.
kevin; After re-reading your post I did the same with mine for the tenth time and regret my choice of some words and how they may have hurt anyone, Sasha or otherwise. You are correct about bringing up her or anyone else's past, motive is the key word here and their aren't enough facts to go around. Though it may seem otherwise, from the beginning I was mainly concerned with the welfare of the children. As pointed out in previous posts my concern is for how a child might be affected and or influenced down the road. If Sasha wants to read to children for their sake great, do so without dragging the porn star name and reputation along, do it without the media covering "the story" and plastering it on-line or in the papers! However this works out, the rights of the parents to oversee their children must not be infringed. Also I wonder if there would ever have been a "story" without the pornography slant, face it how many folks self included would have viewed a story about "Sally Smith" an unknown reading to school children? It is my sincere hope that she is trying to get away from the past but she needs to cut all ties and start anew otherwise it's all just talk.
Thanks for your charitable attitude concerning the contrast between your first and second post I appreciate your thoughfulness, I will try to do likewise in the future; however concerning things of this nature I remain "twice shy"!
realitycheck- I agree with you, about your concern for the children. I apologize if I led you to think otherwise. I do believe our children need strong role models. At one time Sasha (Marina Hantzis) was a child too, she is still someones daughter, and deserves the same respect as anyone else.
I'm sorry for referring to you as a "bible thumper", it just really bothers me to see people put another down for something that is in the past.
Our children's role models should be the parents, if parents start teaching their children at a young age, good moral values, and instill a sense of worth in their children. The children are less likely to turn to drugs, or other deviant behavior despite any outside influences that would lead them down the wrong path.
Unfortunately, many children do not have a strong home life, and/or grow up feeling worthless turning to behavior that society deems immoral. Most are unable to pull themselves out of this cycle by themselves, but every now and then one is strong enough to do just that. I'm not saying Marina is that strong one, I don't know her personally, but she did break away from it two years ago; and though, she may not be the greatest actress, she is trying to remain in acting without going back into porn.
The media has a hard a time letting someone live down their past. They are the ones making a bigger story out of this then it needs to be.
In closing I will just say I understand and agree with your concern for the children, but I don't agree with condemning someone for things they have done in their past.
READING TO KIDS!? What a horrible, evil thing for a horrible, evil person to do. I can't imagine why anyone would think these parents are complete idiots...
Really! They should have gotten somebody more appropriate, someone who is really serious about children's charities. Someone who is a good role model. Someone like, say, COACH SANDUSKY!!!!
I don't see how 'reading to kids' is evil. I'm pretty sure she didn't walk in and say "I get paid to have sex!". The only kids who would know would have to be told by their parents. I bet almost all teachers in the US have had sex with someone other than who they married, at least she got paid. Most people have sex and leave in the morning feeling ashamed.
Really! They should have gotten somebody more appropriate, someone who is really serious about children's charities. Someone who is a good role model. Someone like, say, COACH SANDUSKY!!!!
Or Herman Cain. Or perhaps Clarence Thomas. Perhaps having their kids choke on pubic hair is preferable to these parents than someone respectfully reading a kids book to their kids.
The parents that complain are nothing short of complete retards.
Do grade school children really know what a porn star is? I was more shocked by my art and music teacher leaving school property to smoke! This is just another example of people over-reacting and caring too damn much. Making a small thing huge.
They do now and that probably did more damage than just a nice lady coming to read to them (A movie star at that! She's starred in other things people!)
This is similar to the asbestos paranoia that has knee-jerk reactionary parent groups demanding that "the deadly asbestos" be stripped out of the walls of the schools. There's no danger until the dust gets stirred up from the stripping!
Not that asbestos is part of the article, but I'll bite.
It is indeed deadly. It was in more than the walls of schools. It was in the ceiling tiles, the plumbing covers, the tile floors and almost every other part that it could have been Incorporated into.
So yes, there is a very real danger by merely walking, or a rodent scampering on top of the ceiling tiles.
It was coined "as best as", because at the time, it was as best as it gets when it came to a construction material.
. . . why the school couldn't find a fireman or a police officer to read to students
Considering the location (Los Angeles, CA), the police and fireman probably were unavailable due to being on suspension for letting local porn producers use their squad cars and firetrucks, really . . .
birdpilot: You had to toss in some irrelevant partisan slash? why didn't you comment on the article? Will someone say, "The Democrats probably laid them off because they don't like police?" Would that be alright for you? Let's stick with the topic.
It was a Compton school. The LA police don't even read Miranda Rights in those neighborhoods.. or maybe they were afraid someone would be videotaping..
The "problem" is that she represents many things that are wrong in America with her career ad lifestyle choices. Most mainstream American parents do not want their children exposed to these things no matter how innocent they look from the outside. I wonder how many on this post would object if a well-known Jesus follower came to the classroom. They would start crying "separation of church and state" even though most people don't even understand what that actually means. It simply means that the government will not establish a national church or religion. NOT that religion cannot be involved in government institutions such as schools.
What? Like having sex? Making money? I guarentee taxes were taken from said paycheck and put to community use. I say let the Jesus follower come, as long as he/she doesn't do anything other than read to the kids. And, actually, putting religion in schools would go against "Seperation...", because public schools are funded by the government (tax money), with many denominations congregating in one place. And, no, I don't want my daughter 'exposed' to porn, but rrealize forcing people to look the other way makes it all the more enticing and taboo.
I doubt anyone would complain if the person just read. It is when they start pushing beliefs that it becomes a problem. I could care less whether she was once a porn star (she also did BDSM stuff, too... and I do not think she has entirely stopped).
Anyhow, not every parent was a porn star... this means you filmed, made movies, etc. Most everyone has done what is in porn films, but even then, not ALL. For a member of a group that fears misunderstanding and being generalized, TexanOne committed both.
I did not read that she was preaching porn or religion so your comment has no merit. But I do wonder what the actual demographics were of the ones that did complained?
To Sam: If a ex-porn star comes to a school and reads a CHILDREN'S BOOK to children but DOESN'T talk about being in porn, then I think that's fine. If a hardcore religious fanatic comes in to a school and reads a CHILDREN'S BOOK to children, then that's fine too. Its when a religious fanatic or an ex-porn star comes to talk to kids and sway them toward their lifestyle choices----well then that would give cause for concern simply because these kids belong to someone else. But just reading a frickin' book to a group of kids is no big deal. I suggest working a bit harder on your comparisons. Make sure they match. Also, if you happen to be the religious type, consider this : Every saint has a past. Every sinner has a future.
I am all for separation of church and state and I would have no objection to "a well known Jesus follower" reading to kids in public school. Just as Ms. Grey did not discuss pornography with the kids, I would expect the Jesus follower not to discuss religion with them. And, really, I do understand the strict constructionist meaning of the Constitution non-establishment clause. In the 19th Century some states, reading it that way ("Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion...") passed laws establishing state religions. This was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court when it broadened the interpretation of the 1st amendment to apply it to the states as well as to Congress.
If one of your favorite evangelicals could appear in a classroom and not attempt to promote "Jesus" or his religion in any way, I would have no problem with it. I just don't think televangelists are capable of that.
Sam - what a moronic statement: If a "Jesus follower" came to the classroom and read the same material she did, why would anyone complain? Your paranoia is showing, and more than a little. If the Jesus follower came to the classroom and read religious tracts to the kids, I would have a problem. If this woman had come to the classroom and read a porn script I would also have a problem.
Sam your a closed minded idiot. I see nothing wrong with her choices. I am willing to bet you done things in your past that you would like to change. At least she has moved on with her life and career. Your probily still having dirty thoughts every time you see a hotty.
The "problem" is that she represents many things that are wrong in America with her career ad lifestyle choices.
The complaining parents represent much more of what's wrong with America than the EX-porn star volunteering in the community to better it. Think about it.
Excuse me, Joe, but I am a woman. Samantha. This web site gave me the name Sam. So, no, I do not have dirty thoughts nor do I look at hotties. As for those who did not seem to understand the separation of church and state, it simply means that the government cannot establish a national religion such as England did with the Church of England. As a teacher I can discuss religion all I want. The only thing I can't do is tell a child he must believe like I do or he will fail the class. It is interesting to me how many people think we can't talk about religion in school, esp. since 6th grade history in our state studies religions of the world.
Sam, the issue with a religious person coming in to read a book is that I'd seriously doubt they'd come in to read something entirely secular, and in normal attire. If a pastor came in to read something like "Good Night Moon" or "Guess How Much I Love You" then it would be wonderful, unless they came in the collar.
After all, the ex-porn star didn't come in wearing a leather choker, a g-string, four-inch acrylic platform stilettos and pasties.
So one can never change and shake off their old ways and lead a better life? So what bad thing you may have done in your past we must hold over you and forever judge you for? You must never read a story book to a group of children because of this event in your life?
I'd like to think she has grown up and is making a change for the better in her life. I for one support her new direction.
I would support her new direction, too, if she shows any remorse for her past. But since she hasn't, there is concern by many parents that she might return to her previous profession.
I am a woman. Samantha. This web site gave me the name Sam. So, no, I do not have dirty thoughts
Some of the dirtiest minds I've known have been women.... so I call b.s.... and the people that tend to b.s. about things like these are the ones that tend to have spent the most time on their backs if you catch my drift... although you seem like you might prefer to spend your time on your knees... whatever position works best for you, that's what I say.
sorry sam - as a teacher you CANNOT discuss religion in the PUBLIC SCHOOL classroom except under certain very specific conditions - usually HISTORY related. To do otherwise is to violate the separation principle..
Now IF your complaint is (as it appears to be to ME anyway) that you are upset (crocodile tears?) with the profession she LEFT (you aren't good looking enough to "perform", I guess) then IF she doesn't make any reference to that former profession, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Those young children have NO IDEA OF WHAT THAT FORMER PROFESSION ENTAILS.
I agree with the comments about the kids being safer with HER that with Sandusky.
I find it hillarious that the same people complaining about her use complaints that would also apply to Mary Magdaline... talk about not know WTF is in the bible. I've said it before and I'll say it again, some people like to pretend that the time they spent on their knees sucking off the Koch brother's was really time spent in prayer because it makes them feel better about whoring themselves out for nothing.
Sam, a woman showed up in a classroom and read to a group of children. That was a good thing to do.
Whether or not you like it, the adult entertainment industry is a legal enterprise, and Ms. Grey was smart enough to use it as a platform for larger ambitions. She had no inclination or reason to bring her history in adult films into the classroom.
Meanwhile, everyone else continues to have all kinds of sex, though mostly not on camera. Grow up. Turn your judgement toward the real villains, who exploit, abuse, and starve children on a daily basis. The ex-porn star did something nice.
Pvblivs - I find it very sad that in your "world" you cannot fathom that some people are very happy with one person and therefore have no need to look at others.
Chirmly - yes, a pastor who is a true Christian should show remorse if he has done something wrong. I'm sorry if you have not met any. Perhaps you need to change churches?
canary-in-a-coal-mine - I have been a teacher in the public school system for over 12 years. My husband has taught for much longer. We CAN talk about religion and do so often.
I find it very sad that so many people on this site can say such cruel things to others and want others to accept their ideas about this article, but when I say something I am either collapsed or attacked. Therefore, I can only conclude that I have hit a nerve in the long-lost consciences of so many on here. :)
These parents are worried that an ex-porn star read to their children? I wonder how many of those same parents don't monitor what their children watch on TV when they get home from school. The fox is not guarding the hen house, we're just opening the door.
Sam, your ideology is stupid and clouds your judgement. That's all I got to say to you. I'm being really forward on your negligent comments.
Think about what you said and think about how another person would view it. If you don't see differences, there's a problem. We already have enough dumb statements in the world as it is.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with having an ex porn star teach students, especially of this age. Be careful what you say or people will think your somewhat paranoid. I think your somewhat paranoid. Grow up, be aware, and get a clue.
Comments like this represent ignorant america. We should be educating people, not being arrogant.
Wow you thought of that comment all by yourself. I'm glad that there are people out there that are writing things as stupid as you just did. Please don't breed.
akheretic, you do realize that you just did one helluva job bashing homosexuals, right? Fine with me, I don't agree with homosexuality. But even I wouldn't have said what you just did.
akheretic: That's a nasty bash at priests, as if most child molesting isn't done by family members and close friends. The priests were a small percentage of the total number of priests and the negligent bishops were a small percentage of bishops. Furthermore, the John Jay College of Criminal Justice impartial study of the abuse cases showed that the great majority were of adolescent children and were homosexual in nature, and happened during mostly from around 1965 to 1985 during the so-called Sexual Revolution. Football coaches? How many cases of that have there been? Be more objective and respectful.
general abuse by the catholic priesthood was pretty much confined to 5% or so. The number isn't that much different from the general population. The ISSUE had MUCH more to do with concealment of the crime by the church heirarchy
I am a parent, and parents are stupid. Most people 'force' things on their kids like religion, not doing dugs, not having sex, dressing a certain way, politics, racism, etc. instead of just focusing on doing the best they can for their kids teach them how to respect and care.
@TJ I am one, and I dont see the big deal, in fact now I'm sure the kids will be asking a lot of questions now that they know what she is when the news gets out.
Oh that's the lady that read to us in school. Whats a porn star?
This whole thing is just flat out STUPID!!!! I'm sure she didn,t come in the class room and say..Hi I use to have sex for money so others could watch. Give me a break!!! I would also hate to guess how many of these parents have watched her work then they want to complain about it. I love my country but it is full of way too many prudes!!! The stupid things people complain about is annoying as hell. Don,t we have bigger and better things to do with our time then complain about something STUPID as this????
Right, Nappy. Parents should not force decency, morals, or ethics on their kids. That way they can all grow up to be drug addicts and porn stars with mom and dad cheering them on. "Way to go, honey. But are you sure those 10 guys didn't have AIDS? Wouldn't want you to get sick. Here's some heroin, baby. Don't worry. Mommy made sure the needle is clean (sort of)."
Rikki0, explain the decency in how mom or dad will have to explain their outrage to their kids.
"Mommy, why are you mad?"
"Because a porn star was at your school sweetheart."
"Mommy, what's a porn star?"
"A porn star is...... damn it, go to your room."
The parents that are outraged are the problem. Unless they have a stash of porn in their houses, how are these kids going to know who she is or what she has done?
Once again, knee jerk reacting parents bring on issues that don't exist. These kids, I am sure have not a single clue who she is or what porn is all about. Well, at least they didn't until self righteous parents opened up their self righteous traps.
She has been out of porn for over two years and has started down a different path in her life.
It is a very unfair comment to make that "parents are stupid". How many cases have you studied? Also, are you a parent yourself, or are you indirectly referring to your own parents? You sound Very Cynical and unjust in judging others so harshly. Some parents may have objected, as is their right, but that does not mean that the vast majority did so.
@American is right. Parents are stupid, because human beings always get in their own way. My daughter's father and I are deeply flawed, but a 23-year-old woman reading a book in a classroom would not have caused us to fly off the handle. A pervert teacher or coach? A whole different story.
I am a parent. The parents who complained are prudes and hypocrites. Then again, I studied Sociology in college (if it had a better bill-paying potential it would have been my major) as well as *gasp* HUMAN SEXUALITY (which also covers how the reproductive system works, childbirth, contraception, STD's...). This country was founded by PRUDES and we have never quite gotten away from that background.
People profess to be loving/forgiving people based on religion and then proceed to show that those WORDS are just WORDS - not lessons taken to heart. They proceed to show that morals don't encompass mistakes and don't allow for forgiveness. What this teaches our young people is that THEY better never make a mistake or they will never be forgiven. THEY better never make a questionable career move or they will never be allowed to grow and move past it. They want their kids to not know how they were conceived ... I guarantee that EVERY SINGLE PARENT who complained has HAD SEX ... tho they may not have enjoyed it or admitted to enjoying it. They probably even have had sex without it being for the purpose of conceiving a child. I know my husband and I practiced and practiced and practiced conceiving a child - and we continue to practice it even though my husband was snipped over 2 years ago.
So, I support the statement that PARENTS (in general) are STUPID.
It has been stated many times in this thread, that Americans are generally prudes. I agree. The biggest problem with this is, such fear and loathing of human sexuality has contributed to general ignorance on the subject. Kids get into trouble (pregnancy, STDs, etc.), because they have no clue what sex is about, other than what their own bodies are SCREAMING at them (I want sex!) and what their friends are telling them (sex is cool). Parents refuse to acknowledge that their little angels have sex drives (HELLO! They're human, aren't they?), therefore they NEED to be educated on the subject. Otherwise, the only way their natural curiosity is satisfied is through EXPERIMENTATION! Is the really how you want your kid to learn about sex? Part of me wishes this lady HAD talked to the kids about her past. Maybe she could have dispelled some myths and taught them some VALUABLE lessons about the risks and consequences of being sexually active - something too many parents REFUSE to do.
I have two young daughters, and I try VERY hard to keep open communication with them. (They're pre-teen now, so you can imagine how hard it is getting them to talk about anything.) I want them to know what exists in the world, what to expect, what is happening within their own growing bodies, and what responsibilities they MUST face as a result.
There is no better protection for your children than knowledge.
What she did 2 years ago has nothing to do with what she's doing now.And I doubt 1st 2nd and 3rd graders even know what porn even is.People need to "get a life"
@Tj I always thanked my mother ad father for what they did, and my oldest is only 5 and i'm sure she will thank me when she gets older liek how i did with my parents.
Godsmack4 - How does having a 10 year old boy qualify you for being a good parent? Your statement alone shows that you don't have any standards for parenting.
Hell, as long as she was dressed completely, was not showing "moves", and was nice and polite, there is no difference between her and most new teachers fresh out of college. Seriously, this is why kids have issues, and end up going to extremes the first chance they have away from their parents. I think people need to just TALK to their kids rather than hide their kids from life. What if she had a kid in that school, and joined the PTA? What would you have done then? Tell her that her type isnt welcome into the group called "parents". Being a parent is a thankless job only if you are looking at it through fuzzy goggles. Everything about it reaps thanks. We each have our own days that our kids and spouses make us breakfast and baby us. We get cool handmade presents (the best kind if you ask me). Saturdays are a family day, where we get to hear about the nonsense that is kids, and it makes me smile. I got to see 3 girls cuddled up with their father at 7:30 this morning, and I was kicked out of bed for it. That might make some sad, but it makes me smile because I know they love him, and he loves them. Its written all over their faces. And his. The thanks you get is that look of total love and respect from a 2 year old when you give her kisses when she gets hurt. THAT is thanks enough.
Herr, I am sure there was a time in your life that you were not the perfect being you are today. Shall we look upon you only at the time when you did something you regret?
It's humerous that you would rather teach your child about porn so you could express outrage over soomething. Or would you lie to your child about why you are mad? Call her evil or something. Or perhaps your child will die if she is around them.
You seem to think that people can't change their ways. Guess that means you will always be who you are too. That's a shame.
William Shatner and Angie Dickinson both made porns to survive their early Hollywood years. Bet no parents would have complained if "Capt. Kirk" came to the school to read to their kids.
Herr, I hope you don't have children. Your judgmental attitude shows that you are not FIT to be in charge of raising a plant, much less a thinking, feeling HUMAN BEING. I have serious doubts as to YOUR qualifications as a parent since you appear to adhere to a very narrow mindset and can not think outside your own prejudices.
Some 3rd graders do know what porn is - or at least, they have a rudimentary understanding.
Whether they do or not, or whether they knew she was a porn actress or not, really isn't relevant. What they see her doing now - reaching out, reading to kids, doing something positive - is really all that matters.
I commend her actions toward education. If the complainers took time to focus on education, their eyes would open to see no one has a right to throw any stones at anyone.
Continue to educate, for as she already knows, everyone won't always agree with what you're doing. You know your heart, and that's all that matters.
I seriously doubt that any of the kids recognized the "pretty lady" reading to them as a porn actress. Well, at least she can read. Lighten up folks, there is no need to visit your prejudices onto these kids.
It's reasonable to assume that none of the first or thirds graders knew she was a former pornstar..until now...and I doubt she was reading an issue of Letter's to Penthouse or doing it in the nude, so what's the big deal?
Yeah, I hate it when young adults take an active interest in the education of the youth of tomorrow. That's just so, so damaging to the children, who are psychics and would have known instantly that this woman was a porn star.
That was my thought as I was reading this article.......I'm fairly certain the children didn't know, but I'm thinking at least ONE parent was perhaps watching *gasp* porn and recognized her.
At least she's trying to do something positive and help out a little. You'd think people would commend her efforts rather than try and tear her down. I mean, yeah she does porn. And? She's been pretty darn successful in her chosen profession and it's a profession with a short shelf life. She's decided it's time to do something different and positive. Good job Sasha.
Too bad most people don't take that kind of initiative with their own kids. If they did, that program might not be necessary in the first place!
Joe Paterno? The the biggest jack a ss statement i ever heard! Paterno did nothing to kids, never saw anything and reported it! Jerk. Try Sandusky! he's the one you effin moron.
Paterno is as much to blame as if he had sodomized the little boys himself. Sandusky was his 40 year player, intern, close friend, associate and protege. He knew who Jerry Sandusky was. You effin defender of child rapers.
Leave it to a guy with god and smack in the same name to start the first fight. Paterno didn't do anything FOR the kids, and that's the flaming message.
Godsmack is a heavy metal band. Why didn't the people that saw these kids being abused call the police! That's how the first kid came forward, an adult saw an inappropriate situation and did something about it. If someone tells you they saw a crime committed, but they don't go to the police; what can you or the police even do?
Wow, somesanity. You win moron of the day award. WTF does one have to do with the other??? Moron!!
First, I'm pretty sure none of the children knew or cared about Sasha Grey's past, so how is that a problem? Second, L.A. is a total s***hole anyway, so an ex-pornstar reading to kids is the LEAST of their problems. Third, I echo the sentiment of some previous posts. It's funny that these parents are so damned concerned about her reading a book to their children when they probably wouldn't take the time to do it themselves. I wonder if they don't let their kids watch Michael Vick play football, either, because he was a bad man, too.
P.S. dips***, Joe Paterno didn't molest those kids. Actually do some reading yourself somesanityplease...
good point, if those complaining parents at the school were going to read to classes containing their own kids she wouldn't have had a class needing her to read.
How many read to their kids at home for that matter? That job now belongs to "Dora", "Elmo" and "Leap Frog"; not to mention "Nintendo" and "Playstation"!
Yea, the READ ACROSS AMERICA only stops in bad neighborhoods where the parents are too busy smokin crack to read to their kids.
Thanks Sasha for saving them! You are so much better than the people in Compton (and the folks on this board know Sasha and the Compton parents personally)
I am not dissing Compton in anyway, shape or form. Nor have I made any reference to a bad neighborhood or smoking crack. FYI -- some rich people don't read to their kids and suck at parenting too.
What I do disagree with is unforgiving, simple-, single-, narrowed-minded individuals and they did themselves a disfavor by getting their panties in a bunch. The only reason the children will care about it now is because the parents made a fuss...want to popularize something, publicize it as "bad" or "scandalous". Because then everyone wants to know about it.
HOT, HOT, HOT ! Sasha Grey can read to me anytime ! & I'm a GrandFather !
Double Standard happening here. Kim K made a mint on Her Porn Film & She is a main stream TV & Hollywierd. By the way I really enjoyed both Film Stars !
I am gay and I don't understand what all the fuss is about, every parent was a porn star from time to time, what's the difference. She sounds like a very sweet young lady who enjoys being a mentor to children....not a crime there.
What does being gay have to do with anything?
I have no idea what you meant by this comment; even in my single days "I was not a porn star". However, I do think you are right and the parents are just being overly cautious. As long as the reading material was suitable for their age I see nothing wrong with it.
I believe they were making a reference to the fact that all parents did the same things she did for two years to procreate those children that she was reading to, and they are right. I will admit that I had sex, dirty, rotten, NAKED, and dont let me forget AWESOME sex to procreate ALL 4 of my kids.
"every parent was a porn star from time to time"...what an ignorant generalization to make. had to throw the "I'm gay " part in there to feign some twisted moral high ground
I agree. It's not like the kids would know she was a porn star (unless their parents are letting them watch porn - and who's fault is that?)
I guess not all of us were born with the appropriate tools or mindset to be porn stars. I'm in agreement with those who have no issues with her lending her time and reading skills.
Oh what a shocker! The gay guy is in support of the porn star.
How is that ignorant, George? Ignorance is not seeing the generalization of the comment.
Oh, and because he is gay, he has a twisted moral high ground?
I think you need to realize what ignorance REALLY means.
Oh My God! Why do we still have people like this in the world? I mean, what ever happened to common sense and just plain decency? She was NOT naked, she was NOT having sex, she was reading kids stories to kids, who did NOT know she had a past in porn, and now, because of their intolerance, they are probably catching wind, and starting to google her name.
Talk about lame. If they had just been decent and forgiving in their own hearts, national attention would not have focused on this, and not one single kid would have remembered her name by next week. Now... like I said, they are going to google her. Then goggle her...
So now you guys are gay bashing? WOW. Good that we are all hypocrites. Thanks for that.
Wow, I thought christians were all into this forgiveness and tolerance stuff that, what's his name taught. Started with a J . . . It'll come to be.
In the meantime - get over yourselves!
And in another shocker, a bigot stereotypes all gays as supportive of porn. Who has the high ground here again? I agree with another commenter...unless parents are letting their kids watch Sasha Grey's porn flicks how would they even know? How many of the critics here have ever volunteered their time to read to kids? I think it is admirable. She's actually DOING something to help education rather than standing on the sidelines throwing stones.
Buttzie (wow), you're a typical example of how gays are perverse at heart. When you people parade, you dress like obscene freaks. You're obsessed with abnormal physical relationships so much that you are DEFINED by them. We wouldn't refer to ourselves as heterosexuals other than to differentiate from your type, who DEFINES themselves by abnormal behavior. That said, who cares what you think. You're an idiot and a sicko.
@Texanone what does u being gay have anything to do with this story? An Sasha u are more than welcome to be role model for any of my kids. I wish i could have sex for lots of money pleasure than hay more pleasure think about it.
I can almost guarantee the ones complaining are the naggin wives, the fellows are probably going wow...nice, where was I that day son?
Get a life ladies, the kids probably had a pretty good day, it's never fun trying to make sense out of polynomials all day, once in a while ya need to let it loose and live a little....right kidos?
There is an obvious difference between a couple who privately have sex, especially with intent to have a child, and a pornstar. It's on a comparable level of comparing a doctor who prescribes antibiotics to help an individual recover from illness and drug dealer. The latters are not individuals whom should be interacting with elementary children.
gordona,
I think it's unrealistic of you to expect Evangelical Christians to actually follow the teachings of Christ. Jesus said a lot of things that they'd rather forget he said, like love your neighbors, share with the poor and the one that really gets me is how they love to bash gays, which is only mentioned in a couple verses (and not in the way they think it is) yet the entire chaper of Mark 10 is devoted to denouncing divorce, yet, according to the 700 Cult themselves, the #1 demographic in the USA getting more divorces than anyone else are, you guessed it, EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS! Now, who's really threatening the sanctity of marriage? The 4-6% of the population that is gay, or the 51% of Evangelical Christians perpetrating all these divorces?
There's probably nothing wrong with it until they google her name and see what that leads to. If they have internet access, well, let's just say that it should be an eye opening experience. And as far as "everyone being a porn star", it's not quite like walking in on your parents.
Very stylish, Ms. Grey.
Umm Cheddar- So its jealousy that is leading you all to dislike her? I say that she did what she had to to make money, and then she moved on and up and became something bigger and better than you could ever possibly hope for. Maybe she was a porn star because she was a hot homeless chic, and did whatever she had to to get out of it? You have no clue and neither do I. Maybe you shouldnt judge.
Doc- Imma chic. Imma chic that dislikes porn. I dont see an issue with her reading to kids. I think its the people who are uncomfortable with their sexuality that are objecting to this. Not just the chics, k? I dont really dig it, but whatever, at least she can read, and that will just teach kids that "hey, even porn stars read!"
Ben, I guess it depends on who you are talking about...
The people that are complaining need to grow up. She was not naked in the classroom and they were not showing her films. She was there reading to the children, showing support for education and literacy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with her being there and if these narrow minded idiots did not make such a big deal about it, the kids would never have even know about her background beyond her mainstream acting roles if that.
I just have to ask the obvious- if she were a parent in that school, would they move to have her kid moved because of her occupation? THAT makes ya wonder.
Do we REALLY have to explain the birds and the bees to you?
First, we are making an issue of this when all she did was read to some school kids and she felt proud for doing so. Second, as for the mural concerns...who wants to be the first to pick up a stone and throw it? Look, do some searches for teachers who are being busted almost weekly for sexual abuse of students, besides what has happened at Penn State and you are in for some disgust beyond this young woman and her trying to change her life for the better. get over yourselves.
Nicely put Rw!
@Chris H.-2386235
I get a little sick of hearing comments like yours from people about Christains because let me tell you, I am a christain and I do not ever BASH Anyone. The Bible clearly taught that those who commit homosexuality will NOT inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Yet, It doesnt tell me to hate them! It doesnt tell me to hate anyone!
I agree that many people who call themselves Christains do things and say things that are contrary to the Bible they say they beleive. And that is where you get all the " Thats your interpretation" crap!
But dont you dare say Christains Bash anyone because those who are TRUE Christains do not bash anyone!! It is those who call themselves Christains and pretend to know the word and those who go to church because it "Makes" them a better person who are being fake. Going to a builing and listening to someone say things you really dont agree with and then finding ways to twist your own actions into being true does not make you One with Christs teaching. And the only way one is a Christain is if God sees them found in Christ before the foundation of this world.
People will make up their own Jesus and worship him and call themselves Christains. Why? Because that Jesus thinks just like they do! And they are Good at manipulating whatever they do into being Christain and then pulling the wool over many peoples eyes because most people have no clue what it means to really be a Christain. But from now on say, "Those who Call themselves" or "Some people who call themselves Christain". Dont say "Christains" because the Bible defines who a Christain is. Not someone who goes to church or someone who says they asked jesus into their heart.
Dont know how it double posted
I'm happy there are a lot of grown ups in this thread.
The woman seems to be making every attempt to turn her life around. Not being in porn films for 2 years at the age of 23 is almost 10% of your entire existence on the planet. It's also wise to note that she started very young, for reasons none of you know, and actually became very famous in her time. (She was a darn good porn actress)
Yet she put all that behind her and is committed to helping these children read, more so then most parents in Compton, CA probably, and acted in a completely appropriate way and from everything we can tell. The kids loved it and she did a good job. So leave her alone, and let her get on with her life.
And for the extreme bible trumpeters out there, two words: Mary Magdalene.
I would love to have Sasha Grey read me a story. I prefer it be a bedtime story and in private. I don't want it on tape, but that is besides the point. People need to lighten up. She has changed her ways and wants to contribute to society. Isn't that what GOD wants us to do? Turn from sin and do the righteous things?
And, again, well put Cniht!!
@Michael LEIN:
I'm sure that "True Christians" are exactly as common as True Scotsmen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
OK....let's get a grip on ourselves here. IMHO Ms. Grey did an admirable thing, reading to FIRST and THIRD graders. They probably really enjoyed it; she seemed to! Does anyone really believe that even one of those kids knows about her checkered past? Do we really believe that a six or eight year old would google her (if so, where the heck are the parental controls?) How could (why would) mom or dad tell their kids about her past without opening up a whole can of worms? I sure wouldn't have wanted that conversation with either one of my boys when they were that age. Instead maybe mom and dad should volunteer themselves to read at school in the future.
Ms. Grey has made positive changes to her life. Why aren't we congratulating her, and then thanking her for taking the time for reading to our children?
this story can't be true , nobody in that stupid .
It's C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N-S. numbnut.
@Mark-532951
I'm Sure they have a definition for any mud you want to throw buddy.
I didnt come here to get into a religious debate with an atheist. I have enough of those daily. I know God exists and anyone who actually talks to me for more then an hour walks away with a new found respect for Christains. Real ones.
You dont have to believe at all if you dont want to.
But trying to lump all Christains in one mold that none are true is dead wrong.
you see in Christianity there is the fact that the Spirit is inside the person and makes an effectual change in their life. Example= when I became a Christain I didnt know sleeping around was looked upon as sin, No one told me that, Yet I could no longer go meet someone at a bar and sleep with them without heavy feelings of wrongdoing which never seemed wrong before. And it took a pastor and me reading it in the bible to see it was wrong to actually put together what had taken place inside me on that issue.
So, If you think someone who is Bashing Gays can be lumped in with all who call themselves Christains just because they may call themselves one you would be wrong. Its ok, No hard feelings that you are wrong. You can lump them in if you like. But it doesnt change the facts that the people who have a change take place spiritually (On the inside) are Christains and it shows on the outside. And those who have hate and no change on the outside are NOT Christains.
So your comment is typical but means very little to me since it is coming from someone who obviously does not know God.
There are TRUE Christains. I know there are. I am one of them.
@Michael LEIN, Holy crap. You didn't spell "Christian" correctly ONE time. Though somehow, you spell "Christianity" right? You're trolling. You must be.
I have two basic observations about this topic:
1. Americans are in the dark ages when it comes to their sexuality.
2. Most people just sit on the sidelines eagerly awaiting something to biotch about.
"There is an obvious difference between a couple who privately have sex, especially with intent to have a child, and a pornstar. It's on a comparable level of comparing a doctor who prescribes antibiotics to help an individual recover from illness and drug dealer. The latters are not individuals whom should be interacting with elementary children."
Jesus, when did you return? No wait, your Eric. So Eric, when did the creator turn the reins over to you and make you the overall judge of people?
Eric, are you saying that the only 'acceptable' reason for sex is to procreate? In that case then, the numero uno reason for food is Nutrition Only... So the next time you dig into that big plate of Lasagna.. we'll be watching! ;)
The only trouble with your analysis is that in all the scenarios you mentioned.. no one is harmed against their will. In all the scenarios you described everyone involved is a willing participant. That's what living in a free society is all about.
Good for Ms. Gray! - she's smart, she's savvy, she's aggressive and I admire her style.
but mikey - how can you claim to know everything. Flying Spaghetti Monster REALLY doesn't care - humanity was just an experiment....
Here's the real story:
She did this because:
Her career is floundering and she needed the publicity.
Question for the school:
As the article stated, why didn't you find a fireman or policeman willing to read to the kids? What idiot superintendant didn't see this coming? Regardless of your opinion on porn stars, the occupation of fireman or law enforcement is many times more noble than 'porn star'...
well shes 1000x better then nikki haley a nazi governer who speaked at SC schools. yes maybe a porn star is inaportiapte for schools but many women live a inapropaite lifesytle, more then half of them do. as long as shes profesinal in the school it should not be a big deal.
Most of you underestimate 9 and 10 year olds. Many of them will think to Google. And then the word will spread like wildfire.
tex, who cares??
Well...having never heard of her...I googled her up, watched a movie, and one could say that I came to the conclusion that it may have been best to leave her out of the school.
I would - however - like to ask her out for dinner sometime.
Porn Star: An actress or Actor who is paid to participate in various forms of intercourse.
Sex: An act between two (or more) people performing intercourse.
Blitzed Sex: An act between two(or more) people that one of them decided would be cool until they break up and share the tape publicly (Ie Paris Hilton,) Still does not make them Porn Stars.
So not that we mince words on the Vine, Unless your getting paid to perform in a magazine, video, or stage, Your not a porn star. Even if you last longer than the four hour limit for viagara, sorry, It's not the same. So we can move that comment out that we are all porn stars, You are not that good, just ask one of your exes.
I do not recognize the name Sasha Grey, most likely because I do not seek that form of entertainment out now that Im a tad bit older. The fact that she was appearing on a syndicated television show nationally was probably the more direct reason she was allowed to participate.
I am sure that none of the kids were disappointed with someone famous reading stories to them, and for those that feel SHE shouldnt have been reading, (or been replaced by a fireman, or police officer) why don't you find the time to volunteer.
IT seems to me that with McGruff, and the Various Shows, and Explorer programs (and the complete participation of the LA, Orange, and San Bernadino, San Fernando Counties FD's and PD's programs for youth is very adequate. 1000's of Children show up for those, and participate, It's the adults that never show. It's still the same with our communities, and our schools.
Leadership starts at the bottom, training, caring, teaching, sharing, showing, and helping them grow, you'll be amazed at what they can do when you give them hope.
We can't fix the old dogs (Politicians) and the college generation is barking up the wrong tree (OWS vs Bankers when it should be the POLITICIANS), and then we leave the next generation to fend for themselves (children)?
What's the difference between being in a porn flick then reading to children and watching a porn flick then reading to children? Hypocritical parents.
Bush read to children in FLorida and the World Trade Centers fell. I guess I'm supposed to put "just sayin'"
Nice to see so many opinions.If I may quote myself"opinions are like as-----s,everybody elses stinks"Gr8 so many are experts on parenting skills.Funny how despite their lack of access to social media how much previous generations got right on raising children.But yeah,go ahead and throw the baby out with the bath water.Indulge yourself.Yeah,..........no Js husband
Michael,
I suggest you go back and read my original post. I didn't generalize about ALL Christians, I was speaking about EVANGELICAL Christians. Those who follow the docterine of John Nelson Darby, the preacher from the 1850's who invented the idea of a pre-tribulation "rapture" (which incidentally is mentioned NOWHERE in the new testament.) John Nelson Darby started a ministry based on hate, fear, selfishness and intolerance, which directly conflicts with the teachings of Christ. Those who follow this docterine are often the ones who equate Christianity with right wing political beliefs. "True Christians" know that Jesus was not a fan of ANY political systems, and often spoke about the evils of politicians.
Also, your assertion that those who commit homosexual acts will not enherit the kingdom of heaven is patently incorrect. There are a couple of verses that address homosexuality, where it is referred to as an "abomination", however, these texts were incorrectly translated from the original hebrew. The word used, which was incorrectly translated as "abomination" actually mean that it was a deviation from tradition. If we look at the verse in Leviticus, which anti-gay groups like to use so much, where it is called an "abomination" for a man to lie with a man as he would with a woman, and should be put to death, and we go back just a couple of verses, we see that Moses also says that eating shrimp is an "abomination" and those who do so should also be killed. So why do we not also condemn those who eat shrimp as we do homosexuals? Becasue, again, it is NOT a sin, nor is homosexuality, it is merely a deviation from tradition.
I rest my case.
Chris slow down. Your meshing two different instances there, both of which are corrected by the New Testament, JESUS speaking of nothing is Evil that goes into a man (eating) but that which spews forth from his mouth (lies, deciet, treachery, etc). So those that argue about the immorality of sin (whichever sin), find that only one path lay towards redemption, forgiveness from believing in CHRIST who died on the cross.
Now lets look at the Cross, to further show your point on rapture, (which does exsist) but not for any living man. For it is appointed to all men(mankind) to die once, and then salvation. So I agree there is no pre-tribulation rapture. In fact specifically it points out that after JESUS died (the thief on the cross, and the SAINTS who had died before joined In the rapture)
Back to your point on the verse in Leviticus, translated correctly on the word "abomination" , two entire country (city-states) were destroyed most specifically for THAT "abomination". Yet, instead of calling it an abominations, you merely use semantics and change it to "merely a deviation from tradition"? Why bother changing the words If it really means the same thing in your mind.
Please don't get up, I see you already put your case to rest. I hope you can put your prejudice to rest.
pan tribulation guys. it will all pan out in the end.
Good for her! Former drug users and alcoholics are brought in to talk to kids all the time. At least she didn't break any laws or endanger anyone. She is advocating education, not sex, so leave her alone.
I didn't even Know who Sasha Grey was/is much less that she was/is an ExPorn Star. How is it that All these Upstanding Parents Know Who she is and What She did for a Career? Perhaps They were Closet Admirers of her Skills?
@Champagne_Rhapsody
LOL, I was thinking the same thing!
She @!$%#ed and sucked a @!$%#, no way in hell should she even be around kids. She should be killed!!!
Bahahahahhahah that's just great now go be a psycho somewhere else.
They allow politicians to talk to kids all the time and they screw millions of people out of their hard earned cash.
For all of you who are not familiar with the talented Miss Sasha Grey, I invite you to head on over to Pornhub.com, and enter Sasha Grey into the search box. I believe you'll be amused at what you see :)
Sasha Grey is not your run-of-the-mill porn star. Sasha Grey is the very essence of what the porn industry represents, she is the Queen of all things disgusting and rancid, she is the representation of everything none of us would do, but love to watch.
But seriously....I think it's great she's reading to kids and stuff, whatever helps her sleep at night :)
At least she's willing to read those kids. Maybe if more parents would go to their kids' schools and take a more active role in their kids' educations, examples of generosity like this wouldn't be so rare as to make the news.
These people who are bìtchìng need to go get laid.
Emphasis is on the word "ex" here. This young lady is obviously trying to mend her past and people need to give her a break! I worry more about prudish uptight parents attitudes on kids more than I do this young lady!
if it weren't for the self-righteous religious fanatics and the media, the kids and 99 percent of america would never have known who she was and what had done in the past. christian fudamentalist blow up clinic; muslim extremeist blow up cafes and themselves wheres the difference; oh the christian fundamentalist are still around to persecute and annoy the rest of us
I read the article. Where did it say anything about Christian parents or Christians at all? Looks like the atheist and Christian haters have jumped the gun. Can i mention gun in a school story? Anyway,some parents Christians or not just don't like the idea of a former peter puller for money being around their children. Even a cop is no better as someone suggested in the story. Some of them cheat, lie and are crooks as well. A lot of people who aren't Christians don't think porn is right. Hell i even find it tacky myself.
Thanks SirCaseph 4 the info on the links. Sasha Grey was a porn natural. Super HOT vids. Too bad she retired.
I'm sure they could find SOMEONE in L.A. who ISN'T a former porn star, drug user, DUI offender, alcoholic, adulterer, criminal or con-artist? Maybe they could have gotten the former Governor to read to the kids.. hmm.. no he's busy with his mistress. Maybe the L.A. Sheriff... no, he's accused of inmate abuse. Maybe one of the honorable LA City Council members.. no, there's that convention center thing. Maybe a LA County Judge.. Silberman, no. Hey, where's cute little Disney star and LA resident Lindsey Lohan??
The most symbolic images presented at an early age of a child's development will reside with them for years to come. The learning stage in symbolic, experiential and written information is critical to a child's present and future well being and development. Perhaps the symbolic image presented ('A Ex- Porn Queen') as her movies remain stardom for years to come will be a reminder to each child when they grow up about their early exposure to this role model in a school classroom and education. The advancement of sciences; psychology, sociology and technology is aiding humanities progress and ideology through media, script writers and politics. The parents appear helpless as if their voices do not matter of whom and how their children will be educated in public schoolrooms.
LMAO ...the parents knew she was a former porn star. Hmmm how did they know that? Maybe they should be reading to their kids and watching a little less porn.
As long as the kids don't know her past profession. I'm sure she didn't tell the kids, "Hey, I'm an ex-porn star. Great way to launch your career in Hollywood." I made some mistake in my early 20's but I grew up & changed, by the grace of God, and I was always very active in my kids PTA. When these kids are old enough to google porn stars, they won't remember she read to them. Chances are they've already forgotten her name.
PS Parents, go in and volunteer at your kids school. If you're concerned about who's in class w/ your kids, get in there yourself. If you ain't volunteering, you have no right to complain!
There's no question whatsoever that Sasha Grey has a publicist who's advised her to do charitable work, in order to build the groundwork for a career in mainstream entertainment.
This isn't cynicism, it's how the celebrity system works. Who knows, Ms. Grey may actually be quite fond of children. While she hasn't shown any outstanding talent as an actress, she's a shrewd and ambitious girl, and porn star does not equal unfeeling monster.
However, no one is allowed to complain about Ms. Grey unless he or she immediately signs up for some kind of charitable public service. There are plenty of opportunities these days.
Yeah, as if the parents were invited to be the star in "Read Across America." It obviously originated at a much higher level........
The READ ACROSS AMERICA events are well publisized and the celebrities announced. The parents were TOLD who this "celeb" was and they have every right to be upset!
Its no accident that they sent her to the Compton school. They knew d*cks like you guys would think less of the parent than you would a porn star (who has only done 2 legit projects)!
HOW GREAT TO KNOW THAT MOST AMERICANS JUDGE CUTE, WHITE PORN STARS LESS HARSHLY THAN "THOSE PEOPLE" WHO LIVE IN COMPTON!
The woman read to the kids. She didn't do a porn promo. Nothing wrong here. Besides She's very pretty.
We're not judging any of the parents that have an IQ in the double-digits, just the ones in the single digits that had a problem with this. They are retards.
Guess what? There's nothing illegal about the porn actress' former career. Furthermore she's done nothing that the parents didn't do when they conceived their kids. But unlike those retards, this former porn actress knows how to read.
Daddy is just jealous that little jimmy got to spend the time with her while Daddy was at work daydreaming about who knows what!
Mac--I'm with you. What's the fuss when classrooms are understaffed and someone volunteers. I be far more concerned it a priest, a football coach, or a member of the religious right read to the lads and lasses. Even worse--- not corporate banker, a stock broker, or a mortgage lender.
Sandtrich: I agree. When compared to the crowd you cited, a three dollar prostitute is morally upscale. Regards my friend
Freda is half right. I will judge the parents. Judging people is fair. You do it based on how they are. Did this lady kill anyone, or say something was bad when it wasn't? Was she trying to do something good?
Are the parents helping literacy, en-masse, or sitting on their collective, pathetic judgemental butts?
As long as she dosen't try to kiss any kids on the lips.
Parents can Google also. I would. Anyone I know who put their children first would. These days you have to screen EVERYTHING given to your children.
Even if you home school the material should be checked.
Excluding the porn-star issue.... I bet these same parents are also the types who allow their kids watch movies where people are being raped or blown apart, while at the same time refusing to allow their kids to understand that the human body is something that is natural and good, instead of dirty and shameful.
Why don't these parents worry about the real problems like BULLYING instead of creating issues out of good deeds by citizens like Sasha Grey who is doing what she can for the betterment of society?
Yes, she WAS a pornstar, but that's not all there is.
She is a good citizen, at least i'm sure of that. To those parents, what have you done for the socitey lately aside from COMPLAIN?
Nothing wrong with being a porn star. Nothing wrong with reading to kids.
Nothing wrong here.
Funny. Not long ago, I read an article about kindergarden children being taught about a 'different kind of family' from a transvestite, all about homosexual rights.
But when a reformed porn star wants to teach children appropriate school subjects, we make a fuss.
So ... let's see now... she read to the students... that's it..? And the "parents" are upset...why...? It doesn't say what grade these students she read to were in, but usually, if someone comes in to be read to... they surely are not the age that would watch "Entourage"...!
So what are they complaining about...? That they weren't invited to the reading ????
The parents were to judgemental, because in the Bible Jesus was talking with a woman who was a prostitute and the villagers were going to stone her, but Jesus said to the villagers that whoever is without guilt cast the first stone. After Jesus said that, they all left and no one threw a stone. Jesus said to her, where are you acusers, then he said for her to go thy way, and sin no more.
It seems that the parents just wanted to ridicule her, and not give her a chance to put the past behind her, and be the person that gives back to the community which it appears that they were not. Where is the forgiveness that they should have for one another.
Oh, wait, suddenly a valid complaint has been raised... yeah, where's my invite?? I want a porn star to read to me... hell I just wanna say I was in the same room with a porn star once in my life.
it's funny how there are parents who oppose her from talking in front children... but don't think twice about a cop doing the same thing where he shows the class the gun he uses to shoot people with! ;)
Yet for some reason... total strangers are allowed to set in classrooms and say, "Hey, I'm gay!"...(oh..ya, to explain, I have same-sex with folks).
OK lets see here how any responsible parent would know who this person was... I don't know lets try Google. No seriously any one who comes around my kids I or my wife research, that means I look at their face book, MySpace, image search, and regular Google search. Now that being said when you pop up images like what Mrs. Grey does you are not an Ex porn star thanks to the internet you are now and forever more a porn star. Which also I hate to say is not much different form a hooker. I mean she has sex and get paid for it so it's basically the same thing depending on how you look at it. Now with all that said I COMPLETLY agree with the parent complaint about this woman in the school. The things she has done with her life is not something I want my kids looking up to.
Tell you what...When Sasha Grey gets busted having sex with an underage minor AND/OR recruit them into doing kiddie porn, then I'll join you with the pitchforks and torches; BUT UNTIL THEN, I am NOT going to join a lynch mob SOLELY on the fact that she was a porn star and decided to make a change in her life by reading to children!!!
I would rather focus my energy on getting "No Child Left Behind" repealed, stop these anti-union laws that are harming our teachers, vote out GOP/TPers that want to shutdown the Department of Education, and bring back funding to school programs that help keep our children off the streets and away from gangs.
Will those complaining/whining parents volunteer to read in their child classroom?? One thing i know is she doesn't teach her skills to the kids and are those parents jealous of her skill and just secretly admired her film perfomance. Then parents should stop complaining and volunteer some time to read in classroom.
It's just amazing to see all the hypocrites in this thread. Preaching, how her past is just so terrible, they can't bear the thought of her reading Dr. Seuss to their kids. If the parents are worried their kids will Google her and see what she has done in the past, there is a simple solution to fix that. It's called parent block, it filters out the porn so your kids don't see it.
Also, if your going to get all high and mighty about her past, I hope your going all the way and filtering, just about all tv out of your kids life. As 95% of television shows are either filled with violence, or sexual references. Then there is the video game arena, music on the radio, and even G rated movies are starting to have more and more violence and lite sexual references. I hope your censoring all that as well.
She started out in Porn, so what, she wasn't promoting it.
I'm sure I get some hollier than thou types upset with what I just said. Grow up people.
I'm glad all the little girls could be read to by an upstanding moral character who could inspire them to enter a lucrative and self-esteem building career where they don't fall prey to sexists and perverts.
I wonder how many of the hypocrites criticizing this nice lady for volunteering in the community turn right back around and support this nefarious fellow:
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/celebrity/news/scott-brown-nude-in-cosmo
It's funny how these same nitwits were out trolling the web when he was running saying that past mistakes shouldn't be held against him...
I gave you an up tick. Normally I agree with pretty much everything you post. However, I have some thoughts to add to this one. You forgot the ever corrupt politicians. The problem with having her presence in a school where young minds are being formed is what she morally stands for. True, some would say that she hasn't hurt anyone. I say she is part of the hypocrisy we have within our society regarding what is right and not right to display in public. It sends a message to young minds that it is ok to prostitute oneself for money. It says to young girls what you have between your legs is a gold mine to explore. Just look at what is 'hot' on TV these days. Total human wastes such as kardashian and that Jersey shore thing make millions while our young minds waste their youths watching such useless drivel which add no value to society. We have really messed up our moral and social values.
Weird.
I don't know what this woman acted in, but so long as she's behaving appropriately with the kids, and her background involves no victim crimes, why aren't we just saying "thank you, ma'am?" ;)
Well, because we're prudes, of course. Always have been, apparently always will be. I'm one myself. But not so much of one that I think there's anything wrong with this situation, or with porn in general, (excluding the sick stuff that involves violence).
If these same parents allow their kids to watch TV or listen to rap, they're exposing them to porn, and much of the very sick variety. How many families are "entertained" through dinner by watching a woman being raped and brutally murdered on crime-time TV? That's not porn?
The problem is the hypocrisy. We arrest Johns looking for prostitutes yet when a camera is added it becomes OK for women to have sex for money?
I've always wondered about that myself. What's the difference between a porn "star" and a prostitute? They both have sex for money and the porn star lets everybody watch her work. Is it because we as a society have such love for the arts?
If she was just a volunteer I have no problem with it. It she was introduced as an honored guest because of her work in film, we are telling those kids, this is a role model. Don't think those kids won't Google her or see the story on TMZ. The school could have made a better choice.
the other person isnt paying for sex to be performed on them, and they all have to be licensed and tested regularly. Its watched by the government. Differences of laws only. Morally, its the same except its not being done to you, but for you, I guess.
LOL
I know that's right.
Well, If I was the government, and I had nothing else to do besides watch people, Id surely watch porn. Boredom is scary.
Kinda like the SEC watches wall street, huh? If the gov. can regulate the porn industry then why not regulate the sex industry as a whole. Simple, a good health card with monthly doctor's visits like it is done in Holland. No good health visit no nooky. This can even generates taxes. This would stop my tax dollars from going into the police, legal, and prison system supporting a hypocritical stance that would marginalize one group of people and elevate another.
Ineptia, you sound like someone who has some issues. I"m sure there is a free clinic somewhere in your area. You might want to think about making an appointment. ASAP! I'd rather have my kids read to by someone like Sasha Gray, who at least is honest, rather than a hypocritical moralist like yourself! Get real!
Meanwhile... two weeks after the woman reads the story... the kids cannot even remember what the woman's name is when asked... and most likely will not recognize her even if she walks past them...
The parents on the other hand... they will be aroused by this for years...! I wonder who was the "stand up" parent who knew she was a porn star... the one who started the ball rolling? Wonder which film of hers he/she liked the best !!!
Surely, the school did not send a flyer home with a student saying a porn star was doing a reading on such and such day and time...! ??? !
Welcome to the 21st century version of parenting with it's noble members......!
A.C., better yet how did the "stand up" parent even know the gal was a porn star? I agree with you. Really make you wonder what they and spouse/partner have been watching! Isn't 21st century hypocrisy in parenting a wonderful thing?
Ed-NavDoc: She does mainstream work too. Outside of Jenna Jameson, she is probably the best-known porn chick in non-porn circles (which isn't saying much).
Every night Chris Matthews says that all Americans must be spayed or neutered. Like a lot of pet owners I took Bob Barkers advice about pets. Let's all chip in a buy Chris Matthews a set of used genitals. Watch the idiot look on his face when sex gets mentioned.
GregS-546783, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 5 of the Code of Honor.
Only one day?
The US has got to get over their paranoia about sex and nakedness. We were all born naked and we do have sex. Geesh...
Or maybe the US should get over thinking it's a forgiving, Christian nation, and admit it's a paranoid bunch of prudes who all think the stork delivered them on the doorsteps of parents who also never excrete any waste while waiting to go the hell.
She didn't have sex or get naked at the school, she read. The problem I suspect is that many of those parents are too ignorant to be able to read and thus suffered from jealousy.
people have sex. some make movies of themselves having sex for their job. it's okay. the kids are going to grow up to...have sex! some of it gay sex! noooooooooooooooo!!
That's a sickening thought.
You seem to have missed the point that most have understood. She is a Former porn star and wanted to Help out in the Reading project. She didn't talk about sex or explain about her former movie career.
cmach:
The fact you overlook is the depravity in mixing sex or something of a deviant sexual nature with children. As evident by the fiasco at Penn State, opinions vary as to what is acceptable behavior where children are concerned. The parents objecting are not suffering from paranoia but modesty; something you and a lot of others seem to be unfamiliar with. Not everyone shares your opinion of where sex and nakedness are appropriate, a public classroom is no place for a harlot; retired or otherwise. (She chose her occupation and reputation, I am not being judgmental) If their wasn't something rotten about this situation there would be no controversy, another example of great news reporting on the part of msn and their tabloid news mentality.
My question is: Of all the positive influences available for reading to students, why was this woman chosen? Someone has an agenda here and this is another example of the camel’s nose being under the tent. What’s next playing one of her movies in art class to teach the kids about human anatomy? It all depends on one’s sense of value. While the children may have been unaware of her lack of moral character obviously others were not. Fortunately some of them were parents who prefer a better role model for their children. Keep the whores in the whore-house not in the school house.
While I’m sure I’ll be crucified for having an opinion in opposition of the majority posting on this story it is not something to scoff at and I remain thankful for the parents who took a stand for the sake of their children and doing what is right!
Realitycheck while reading your answer I was reminded of the woman caught in adultery. It appears, you would have been throwing a stone rather than recognizing that Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you: go, and sin no more". So, yes, you are judging. Maybe, instead of condemning her, you might try inviting her to church instead. Oh wait, you're not done pointing out her sin, rather than her redemption. I think I'd rather be her, than you, on judgement day. You've obviously missed the point of the whole Bible thing.
Lovely: calling her a whore and a harlot. How very Biblical.
Hmm, your ethical and moral past is so spotless, isn't it? Oh, yes, you're oh-so-Puritan and modest. You've never had an impure thought in your life, is that right? In fact, you're so morally and ethically superior that you feel entitled to call someone names. You feel entitled to look down your pinched, narrow little nose and denounce someone, as if you were anointed by God to pronounce judgment on anyone.
(Do you have proof of that, by the way? A certificate or something? No? Only your sense of superiority? Pity...)
Well, you're not alone, RealityCheck-blah-blah. There are thousands like you: religious fanatics who truly believe they're God's Chosen because they attend the Right Church (whichever crackpot sect of Evangelical or Pentecostal Christianity it may be) and, because you and others like you loudly proclaim your direct Mandate from the Almighty, feel entitled to throw feces at other people.
(The fact that you have done nothing to help those less fortunate than yourself, quite in opposition to your Savior's directives, matters not a bit to you, does it? "God helps those who help themselves." To as much as they can carry, that is. It's the thought that counts, doesn't it? Good deeds don't matter. Bragging about your moral purity certainly does.)
You're quite correct in that you're going to take a lot of heat for your primitive superstitions; you and all the other haters here who spend most of their time condemning others and none at all looking in their own hearts. Rightly so. Your reign here on earth, that of Kings and Queens and State Religions is a thing of the past. It's primitive. It's destructive. (Religious wars, anyone? Shall we shed more blood in the name of Christ? Yes, let's do just that!)
It's insane.
Fear is what drives you, my friend. Fear of punishment. Fear of eternal torture. Fear of a God who could fit into my God's pocket with room left over for the car keys and a fat wallet. Your God and your moral view is so small as to be virtually microscopic. Your fear of torture has driven you quite mad. I don't think you can be reasoned with any longer.
Please go away and get some help with your madness before it becomes necessary to lock you up.
Perpetual, comes to mind when I read some of these posts. Elementary aged children, under proper parental control, should not know what a porn star is nor what an ex-porn star has done unless they are told or she walks in dressed in a teddi and pops in a dvd for "show & tell"! But, she has only volunteered to READ to the children!! What is most evident is the unacceptable behavior of the so called adults/parents, who continue to perpetuate the "isms" in our culture - ageism, sexism, racism, classism, et cetera and, they are probably perplexed by the fact that our nation is so divided.
Where were all those positive role models? Evidently not available to read to the kids that day or any other.
You do realize Michelle Rose that your post is pure irony? condemnation... check, judgement... check, and full of hate... check. You need Jesus!
@Eejay, The isms were perpetuated when she was sent to a Compton school. While the program is in largely Black and Brown communities, there are (contrary to popular belief) poor white schools that require this program as well. It is unlikely that she could have been sent to any school without some sort of flap, but it is interesting that it was a school in Compton. Things are often done in the Black community that people won't try in the mainstream. I assure you that there are parents who read to there children, and raise them as well as anyone and their only crime is being poor. When those parents hear that a former porn star was reading to their kids, they have a right to be uncomfortable with that. Would their Beverly Hills counterparts be comfortable with her heading a fundraiser for them. Probably not. Just because people are poor, (and the the kids are in need) doesn't mean the attitude should be "let them be glad for what they get".
Bentbrass: michelle spoke of the Jesus I was taught the one who was tolerant of peoples weakness and ready to forgive those who sinned, why is it that today we have churches that practice a theology of my church is bigger, my minister has a bigger fancier car house etc. Why is the essence of his love forgiveness and protection of the weak absent from that christianity. Let the weak and the young the broken and injured come to him and let a young woman read to little children now that she has put aside her weakness.
@ george. I didn't miss anything dude.
All the religious people saying things....not one ever read John 8 and still lives by the word if he/she condemns anyone. Fact....It is a Job, Fact....It is Legal, Fact....it is against the law to predjudize. Has someone here decided they do not want to live by US law and Gods word? Then leave, go to where your socialist religous communties are welcome.
realitycheck-3009300
The fact you overlook is the depravity in mixing sex or something of a deviant sexual nature with children. As evident by the fiasco at Penn State, opinions vary as to what is acceptable behavior where children are concerned.
What happened at Penn State was, an adult forcing sex with students. Big difference.
a public classroom is no place for a harlot; retired or otherwise.
There you go, really thump on that bible now.
(She chose her occupation and reputation, I am not being judgmental)
WOW, your not? What do you call it then, cause I call that a lie.
Of all the positive influences available for reading to students, why was this woman chosen?
Maybe, because she was the only one who cared enough to volunteer?
What’s next playing one of her movies in art class to teach the kids about human anatomy?
Now your just being stupid and ridiculous.
Keep the whores in the whore-house not in the school house.
Again??? You said you weren't being judgmental. Your proving to be quite the liar.
While I’m sure I’ll be crucified for having an opinion in opposition of the majority posting on this story it is not something to scoff at and I remain thankful for the parents who took a stand for the sake of their children and doing what is right!
I am not "crucifying you" for your opinion (everyone is entitled to one, even hypocrites). If the parents are that concerned about this, why don't they actually be a parent, and discuss the situation with their kids. By being interactive with them about everything, instead of trying to make believe everything that is wrong or immoral in this world doesn't exist. The children will benefit greatly if their parents would actually sit down with them and discuss why they feel the way they do.
Do you honestly think that by banning a former porn star from reading to them, the children will grow up completely oblivious to the world of porn. Acting as though it doesn't exist, is not going to stop those kids from discovering it later in life. It just instills a sense of power to the parents, and gives the impression they are doing the right thing.
She was not promoting the porn industry, she was reading children's literature to them. Get over it your Holiness.
As M Rose and Kevin have pointed out I overstepped my bounds in inadvertently making this a personal attack against a young woman whose motives are uncertain at this point. Yes like M Rose and everyone else willing to admit it my closet is full of skeletons too, here I stand corrected although as afore mentioned I didn't intend to condemn her personally but rather the need to question the ethics of parents who love and want to protect their children from what they feel is the wrong kind of influence; it's their children let them decide who they desire as an influence while at school. As for name calling I took time to research what a woman accepting pay for sex is called and harlot and whore were just two of countless definitions found in several versions of on-line dictionaries; these are not my definitions but status quo for defining a womam who deals in sex for money. While I understand she claims to have left the profession I wonder if she still accepts royalty payments for services rendered in the past, if so then while she is "clean" technically, the grey shadow of the past will continue to follow her in and out of the classroom. Lastly I again regret making this a personal issue as such was not my intent, rather I feel this whole fiasco should have been left in the hands of those dealing with the situation personally and not be put in the spotlight for the sake of selling advertising.
As for M Rose, kevin and the other hate mongers out there (you are what you are) who despise anyone else having the audacity to dare post an opinion in opposition to theirs I hope you will consider that we all are capable of making mistakes and that a drop of honey goes farther than a gallon of vinigar. You can make your thoughts know without being so acidic and intolerant of others daring to have a personal thought that doesn't fit your mold. You can spew all the nasty comments you want but in doing so you too lose any credibility in the realm of critical thinking, accept that not everyone thinks the same and you are not the last word or final authority! To me no matter how you slice it pornography and public school don't mix, this is one of many areas where the end doesn't justify the means.
As for the young woman in the story I hope things work out for the best and that she is able to make a better life for herself outside the sex trade industry who ruins the lives of countless people on both sides of the fence for the sake of money.
good post on the discussion forum! Rise above it and leave it behind.
kipp; I gree nuff' said!
rc
Last thoughts; Upon re-reading the afore mentioned posts by Michelle Rose & kevin above (like myself at times) it is apparent they weren't thorough in reading all that was said in posts made by others before making reply.
First of all I wonder what it was in my post that made MRose fly off the handle and become so violent and hateful; I have to believe someone has an axe to grind in general about issues of self worth or confusion as to what is really good or right in the world and regrets decisions that were made in the past. Though some would desire the world accept diviant sexual behavior the fact remains that though some may try to juststify it not everyone will take every piece of bait that comes down off the side of the boat, you can lead a horse to water........
Secondly both made this an issue of "biblical proportions" when no mention of the Bible was made in my original post; to assume that someone who questions deviant sexual behavior or unnatural affection is a "Bible thumper" or "religious fanatic" is going out on a limb, and while I may be a God-fearing man my post was based on common sense. I agree with kevin in that parents should talk to their children about constructive lifestyles, I never suggested otherwise. I also agree we can not hide the world from our children but there is another side to the story. My point is that a child should not look up to or be exposed to role models whose lives usually wind up on a dead end street in one way or another. How many of Hugh Hefner's victims are still in the spotlight after the passing of time? After decades Mr. Hefner is the big winner and most of the women that sacrificed their bodies for the pleasures of a season now find themselves on the outside looking in. For instance if the woman in the story made a positive impression by her personality or physical appearance there might be a possibility that in the future a child might consider an opportunity in the sex trade, pornography etc. based on how it worked out for someone they perceived as charming and beautiful seeing only the outward appearance and not experiencing the heartache that comes with making bad choices and the price some pay for fame. For every "success" story there are countless others who wind up in a heap of trouble, their self esteem and emotional life destroyed. And though the money and publicity seems attractive for now, I wonder if such will remain the same for the "porn star" in years to come. Like all pretty girls the woman in the story won't always be beautiful or have the features she enjoys today, she will grow old like everyone else; and then what, another episode of "Sunset Boulevard"?
Thankfully for now the parents in this story still have the power to decide who will be making impressions on the lives of their children, and while opinions vary and some parents will make bad choices concerning their kids and exposure to the sickness of pornography, I hope most will do otherwise. I feel there is a legitimate concern here, the lives of innocent children are at stake!
realitycheck- Your continuing to cast judgment on her. Her past maybe immoral, I'm not going to dispute that, but she made a choice to remove herself from that lifestyle. She is trying to make a better life for herself, and help inspire children to learn. Maybe, instead of focusing on mistakes she has made, you should look at the good she is trying to do. Sasha herself, has admitted that her past is not something to be glorified, and knows that she is going to take a lot of flack from people like yourself for it.
It's not uncommon for ex-drug addicts to talk to kids about the dangers of drugs, why is it so hard to accept she is trying to change her life, and who knows, may even give talks in the future to young women about the dangers of the porn industry. She wouldn't be the first ex-porn star to speak out against the industry.
Realize I am not defending her choice to be a porn star, but that I am defending her choice to make a better life. People make mistakes, that's part of being human, it is not something they should have to pay for the rest of their life though.
Give her a chance, if she screws it up, then it's all on her. How can she prove herself a better person though, if people are going to constantly throw her mistakes in her face.
kevin; After re-reading your post I did the same with mine for the tenth time and regret my choice of some words and how they may have hurt anyone, Sasha or otherwise. You are correct about bringing up her or anyone else's past, motive is the key word here and their aren't enough facts to go around. Though it may seem otherwise, from the beginning I was mainly concerned with the welfare of the children. As pointed out in previous posts my concern is for how a child might be affected and or influenced down the road. If Sasha wants to read to children for their sake great, do so without dragging the porn star name and reputation along, do it without the media covering "the story" and plastering it on-line or in the papers! However this works out, the rights of the parents to oversee their children must not be infringed. Also I wonder if there would ever have been a "story" without the pornography slant, face it how many folks self included would have viewed a story about "Sally Smith" an unknown reading to school children? It is my sincere hope that she is trying to get away from the past but she needs to cut all ties and start anew otherwise it's all just talk.
Thanks for your charitable attitude concerning the contrast between your first and second post I appreciate your thoughfulness, I will try to do likewise in the future; however concerning things of this nature I remain "twice shy"!
realitycheck- I agree with you, about your concern for the children. I apologize if I led you to think otherwise. I do believe our children need strong role models. At one time Sasha (Marina Hantzis) was a child too, she is still someones daughter, and deserves the same respect as anyone else.
I'm sorry for referring to you as a "bible thumper", it just really bothers me to see people put another down for something that is in the past.
Our children's role models should be the parents, if parents start teaching their children at a young age, good moral values, and instill a sense of worth in their children. The children are less likely to turn to drugs, or other deviant behavior despite any outside influences that would lead them down the wrong path.
Unfortunately, many children do not have a strong home life, and/or grow up feeling worthless turning to behavior that society deems immoral. Most are unable to pull themselves out of this cycle by themselves, but every now and then one is strong enough to do just that. I'm not saying Marina is that strong one, I don't know her personally, but she did break away from it two years ago; and though, she may not be the greatest actress, she is trying to remain in acting without going back into porn.
The media has a hard a time letting someone live down their past. They are the ones making a bigger story out of this then it needs to be.
In closing I will just say I understand and agree with your concern for the children, but I don't agree with condemning someone for things they have done in their past.
Have a good night, and pleasant tomorrow.
kevin; it was fun, God bless and Happy Thanksging!
READING TO KIDS!? What a horrible, evil thing for a horrible, evil person to do. I can't imagine why anyone would think these parents are complete idiots...
I know. Terrible hey????
This is one time I will actually agree with you.
Same here, i very rarely agree with anything Toasty writes, but this time I do agree with the sarcasm.
Really! They should have gotten somebody more appropriate, someone who is really serious about children's charities. Someone who is a good role model. Someone like, say, COACH SANDUSKY!!!!
I don't see how 'reading to kids' is evil. I'm pretty sure she didn't walk in and say "I get paid to have sex!". The only kids who would know would have to be told by their parents. I bet almost all teachers in the US have had sex with someone other than who they married, at least she got paid. Most people have sex and leave in the morning feeling ashamed.
damnit nappy... you REALLY left yourself open on that, you may want to edit it or rethink that statement.
P.S. Nothing personal but the response to your post will look something like this:
"That's only when they have sex with you."
I suggest you watch yourself out here, the internet gives people 100 pound balls that they use to insult everyone to make themselves feel better.
She didn't do anything freaky to or in front of the kids, did she?
So what's the problem? Those kids were surely safer around Sasha Grey than Coach Sandusky....
Or Herman Cain. Or perhaps Clarence Thomas. Perhaps having their kids choke on pubic hair is preferable to these parents than someone respectfully reading a kids book to their kids.
The parents that complain are nothing short of complete retards.
Not ashamed NappyApple,BROKE.
I say bring her back for career day. (sarcasm only)
LOL.. that was a good one
Yeah, everybody get a life. Compton should be happy they have anyone reading to them that doesn't bling it all out.
Funny. . . . amazing that they had time to complain that she was reading to their kids but not enough time to go to school and read themselves. . .
I think she read "Hop on Pop"...or "Horton hears a HO"...
@ Philip LMAO!! ROFL!!
WTF is wrong with 5.4??
@Eugene -
maybe several persons were concerned about copyright infringement issues, so they slammed 5.4
Actually, parody is a fair useage for the Suess titles.
Yeah if Dr. Seuss were still alive even he would have snickered, good old Walt D. would have also.
Do grade school children really know what a porn star is? I was more shocked by my art and music teacher leaving school property to smoke! This is just another example of people over-reacting and caring too damn much. Making a small thing huge.
You were surprised that an art teacher left school property to smoke?
And what were you doing following your teacher off campus?
Ignore the complainers, they just like hearing themselves talk. Doubt the kids even knew who she was until the idiots started complaining about it.
They do now and that probably did more damage than just a nice lady coming to read to them (A movie star at that! She's starred in other things people!)
This is similar to the asbestos paranoia that has knee-jerk reactionary parent groups demanding that "the deadly asbestos" be stripped out of the walls of the schools. There's no danger until the dust gets stirred up from the stripping!
Not that asbestos is part of the article, but I'll bite.
It is indeed deadly. It was in more than the walls of schools. It was in the ceiling tiles, the plumbing covers, the tile floors and almost every other part that it could have been Incorporated into.
So yes, there is a very real danger by merely walking, or a rodent scampering on top of the ceiling tiles.
It was coined "as best as", because at the time, it was as best as it gets when it came to a construction material.
"... why the school couldn't find a fireman or a police officer to read to students."
Maybe the search took too long.
It seems these people would embrace a criminal football coach in a heartbeat. I have too much respect for Vanessa Williams to write this kid off.
What's so great about police officers?
Considering the location (Los Angeles, CA), the police and fireman probably were unavailable due to being on suspension for letting local porn producers use their squad cars and firetrucks, really . . .
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/04/la-investigating-porn-shoot-allegedly-involving-on-duty-traffic-officers.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/23/local/la-me-0923-fire-trucks-porn-20110923
Really! :D
Cops and firemen didn't volunteer.
Maybe all the firemen and police in the area have been laid off by the GOP gummint haters.
I wish I had a porn star come read to me when I was in grade school
I wish I had a porn star come read to me right now!!!
That would be cool too.
Maybe they couldn't find a cop who could read.
birdpilot: You had to toss in some irrelevant partisan slash? why didn't you comment on the article? Will someone say, "The Democrats probably laid them off because they don't like police?" Would that be alright for you? Let's stick with the topic.
It was a Compton school. The LA police don't even read Miranda Rights in those neighborhoods.. or maybe they were afraid someone would be videotaping..
The children didn't know that she was a porn star so I really don't see the problem.
The "problem" is that she represents many things that are wrong in America with her career ad lifestyle choices. Most mainstream American parents do not want their children exposed to these things no matter how innocent they look from the outside. I wonder how many on this post would object if a well-known Jesus follower came to the classroom. They would start crying "separation of church and state" even though most people don't even understand what that actually means. It simply means that the government will not establish a national church or religion. NOT that religion cannot be involved in government institutions such as schools.
What? Like having sex? Making money? I guarentee taxes were taken from said paycheck and put to community use. I say let the Jesus follower come, as long as he/she doesn't do anything other than read to the kids. And, actually, putting religion in schools would go against "Seperation...", because public schools are funded by the government (tax money), with many denominations congregating in one place. And, no, I don't want my daughter 'exposed' to porn, but rrealize forcing people to look the other way makes it all the more enticing and taboo.
I doubt anyone would complain if the person just read. It is when they start pushing beliefs that it becomes a problem. I could care less whether she was once a porn star (she also did BDSM stuff, too... and I do not think she has entirely stopped).
Anyhow, not every parent was a porn star... this means you filmed, made movies, etc. Most everyone has done what is in porn films, but even then, not ALL. For a member of a group that fears misunderstanding and being generalized, TexanOne committed both.
I did not read that she was preaching porn or religion so your comment has no merit. But I do wonder what the actual demographics were of the ones that did complained?
To Sam: If a ex-porn star comes to a school and reads a CHILDREN'S BOOK to children but DOESN'T talk about being in porn, then I think that's fine. If a hardcore religious fanatic comes in to a school and reads a CHILDREN'S BOOK to children, then that's fine too. Its when a religious fanatic or an ex-porn star comes to talk to kids and sway them toward their lifestyle choices----well then that would give cause for concern simply because these kids belong to someone else. But just reading a frickin' book to a group of kids is no big deal. I suggest working a bit harder on your comparisons. Make sure they match. Also, if you happen to be the religious type, consider this : Every saint has a past. Every sinner has a future.
I am all for separation of church and state and I would have no objection to "a well known Jesus follower" reading to kids in public school. Just as Ms. Grey did not discuss pornography with the kids, I would expect the Jesus follower not to discuss religion with them. And, really, I do understand the strict constructionist meaning of the Constitution non-establishment clause. In the 19th Century some states, reading it that way ("Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion...") passed laws establishing state religions. This was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court when it broadened the interpretation of the 1st amendment to apply it to the states as well as to Congress.
Sam:
If one of your favorite evangelicals could appear in a classroom and not attempt to promote "Jesus" or his religion in any way, I would have no problem with it. I just don't think televangelists are capable of that.
Sam - what a moronic statement: If a "Jesus follower" came to the classroom and read the same material she did, why would anyone complain? Your paranoia is showing, and more than a little. If the Jesus follower came to the classroom and read religious tracts to the kids, I would have a problem. If this woman had come to the classroom and read a porn script I would also have a problem.
Get over yourself.
Sam your a closed minded idiot. I see nothing wrong with her choices. I am willing to bet you done things in your past that you would like to change. At least she has moved on with her life and career. Your probily still having dirty thoughts every time you see a hotty.
The complaining parents represent much more of what's wrong with America than the EX-porn star volunteering in the community to better it. Think about it.
Excuse me, Joe, but I am a woman. Samantha. This web site gave me the name Sam. So, no, I do not have dirty thoughts nor do I look at hotties. As for those who did not seem to understand the separation of church and state, it simply means that the government cannot establish a national religion such as England did with the Church of England. As a teacher I can discuss religion all I want. The only thing I can't do is tell a child he must believe like I do or he will fail the class. It is interesting to me how many people think we can't talk about religion in school, esp. since 6th grade history in our state studies religions of the world.
Sam, the issue with a religious person coming in to read a book is that I'd seriously doubt they'd come in to read something entirely secular, and in normal attire. If a pastor came in to read something like "Good Night Moon" or "Guess How Much I Love You" then it would be wonderful, unless they came in the collar.
After all, the ex-porn star didn't come in wearing a leather choker, a g-string, four-inch acrylic platform stilettos and pasties.
@Sam
So one can never change and shake off their old ways and lead a better life? So what bad thing you may have done in your past we must hold over you and forever judge you for? You must never read a story book to a group of children because of this event in your life?
I'd like to think she has grown up and is making a change for the better in her life. I for one support her new direction.
I would support her new direction, too, if she shows any remorse for her past. But since she hasn't, there is concern by many parents that she might return to her previous profession.
why does she need to show remorse?
"So, no, I do not have dirty thoughts nor do I look at hotties."
I call baloney. You may be female; and you may not be interested in other women. But females have a libido too.
Some of the dirtiest minds I've known have been women.... so I call b.s.... and the people that tend to b.s. about things like these are the ones that tend to have spent the most time on their backs if you catch my drift... although you seem like you might prefer to spend your time on your knees... whatever position works best for you, that's what I say.
sorry sam - as a teacher you CANNOT discuss religion in the PUBLIC SCHOOL classroom except under certain very specific conditions - usually HISTORY related. To do otherwise is to violate the separation principle..
Now IF your complaint is (as it appears to be to ME anyway) that you are upset (crocodile tears?) with the profession she LEFT (you aren't good looking enough to "perform", I guess) then IF she doesn't make any reference to that former profession, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Those young children have NO IDEA OF WHAT THAT FORMER PROFESSION ENTAILS.
I agree with the comments about the kids being safer with HER that with Sandusky.
Sam, wait.. would a pastor need to show remorse?
I find it hillarious that the same people complaining about her use complaints that would also apply to Mary Magdaline... talk about not know WTF is in the bible. I've said it before and I'll say it again, some people like to pretend that the time they spent on their knees sucking off the Koch brother's was really time spent in prayer because it makes them feel better about whoring themselves out for nothing.
Sam, a woman showed up in a classroom and read to a group of children. That was a good thing to do.
Whether or not you like it, the adult entertainment industry is a legal enterprise, and Ms. Grey was smart enough to use it as a platform for larger ambitions. She had no inclination or reason to bring her history in adult films into the classroom.
Meanwhile, everyone else continues to have all kinds of sex, though mostly not on camera. Grow up. Turn your judgement toward the real villains, who exploit, abuse, and starve children on a daily basis. The ex-porn star did something nice.
Isn't the ex porn star in this article a woman?
Pvblivs - I find it very sad that in your "world" you cannot fathom that some people are very happy with one person and therefore have no need to look at others.
Chirmly - yes, a pastor who is a true Christian should show remorse if he has done something wrong. I'm sorry if you have not met any. Perhaps you need to change churches?
canary-in-a-coal-mine - I have been a teacher in the public school system for over 12 years. My husband has taught for much longer. We CAN talk about religion and do so often.
I find it very sad that so many people on this site can say such cruel things to others and want others to accept their ideas about this article, but when I say something I am either collapsed or attacked. Therefore, I can only conclude that I have hit a nerve in the long-lost consciences of so many on here. :)
Hang in there, Sam. I would not mind if my children/grandchildren were in your class.
These parents are worried that an ex-porn star read to their children? I wonder how many of those same parents don't monitor what their children watch on TV when they get home from school. The fox is not guarding the hen house, we're just opening the door.
Sam, your ideology is stupid and clouds your judgement. That's all I got to say to you. I'm being really forward on your negligent comments.
Think about what you said and think about how another person would view it. If you don't see differences, there's a problem. We already have enough dumb statements in the world as it is.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with having an ex porn star teach students, especially of this age. Be careful what you say or people will think your somewhat paranoid. I think your somewhat paranoid. Grow up, be aware, and get a clue.
Comments like this represent ignorant america. We should be educating people, not being arrogant.
She has nothing to show remorse for. There is nothing wrong with being a porn star. It is legal, it is wanted, or there would be no porn.
Men and women enjoy porn. Get over it.
I would rather have a current porn star talking to kids, rather than a Senator, or a Minister.
The ones screaming probably don't have a problem with the kids sitting on a priest lap, or taking a shower with the coach!
Wow you thought of that comment all by yourself. I'm glad that there are people out there that are writing things as stupid as you just did. Please don't breed.
akheretic, you do realize that you just did one helluva job bashing homosexuals, right? Fine with me, I don't agree with homosexuality. But even I wouldn't have said what you just did.
A few parents are not fine with porn stars in the classroom; so, naturally, they are probably fine with pedophiles? Just an idiotic statement.
A few parents are not fine with porn stars in the classroom; so, naturally, they are probably fine with pedophiles? Just an idiotic statement.
You do realise that almost every pedophile is a heterosexual, right?
Seems you did your own gay bashing, eh?
akheretic: That's a nasty bash at priests, as if most child molesting isn't done by family members and close friends. The priests were a small percentage of the total number of priests and the negligent bishops were a small percentage of bishops. Furthermore, the John Jay College of Criminal Justice impartial study of the abuse cases showed that the great majority were of adolescent children and were homosexual in nature, and happened during mostly from around 1965 to 1985 during the so-called Sexual Revolution. Football coaches? How many cases of that have there been? Be more objective and respectful.
general abuse by the catholic priesthood was pretty much confined to 5% or so. The number isn't that much different from the general population. The ISSUE had MUCH more to do with concealment of the crime by the church heirarchy
Parents are stupid.
No, they are just concerned. And from your comment it seems to me that you are not one.
I am a parent, and parents are stupid. Most people 'force' things on their kids like religion, not doing dugs, not having sex, dressing a certain way, politics, racism, etc. instead of just focusing on doing the best they can for their kids teach them how to respect and care.
@TJ I am one, and I dont see the big deal, in fact now I'm sure the kids will be asking a lot of questions now that they know what she is when the news gets out.
Oh that's the lady that read to us in school. Whats a porn star?
This whole thing is just flat out STUPID!!!! I'm sure she didn,t come in the class room and say..Hi I use to have sex for money so others could watch. Give me a break!!! I would also hate to guess how many of these parents have watched her work then they want to complain about it. I love my country but it is full of way too many prudes!!! The stupid things people complain about is annoying as hell. Don,t we have bigger and better things to do with our time then complain about something STUPID as this????
Right, Nappy. Parents should not force decency, morals, or ethics on their kids. That way they can all grow up to be drug addicts and porn stars with mom and dad cheering them on. "Way to go, honey. But are you sure those 10 guys didn't have AIDS? Wouldn't want you to get sick. Here's some heroin, baby. Don't worry. Mommy made sure the needle is clean (sort of)."
@Nappy: "not doing dugs"? Ummm.....did you mean dogs?
i'm a parent! parents ARE stupid!
Rikki0, explain the decency in how mom or dad will have to explain their outrage to their kids.
"Mommy, why are you mad?"
"Because a porn star was at your school sweetheart."
"Mommy, what's a porn star?"
"A porn star is...... damn it, go to your room."
The parents that are outraged are the problem. Unless they have a stash of porn in their houses, how are these kids going to know who she is or what she has done?
Once again, knee jerk reacting parents bring on issues that don't exist. These kids, I am sure have not a single clue who she is or what porn is all about. Well, at least they didn't until self righteous parents opened up their self righteous traps.
She has been out of porn for over two years and has started down a different path in her life.
It is a very unfair comment to make that "parents are stupid". How many cases have you studied? Also, are you a parent yourself, or are you indirectly referring to your own parents? You sound Very Cynical and unjust in judging others so harshly. Some parents may have objected, as is their right, but that does not mean that the vast majority did so.
@American is right. Parents are stupid, because human beings always get in their own way. My daughter's father and I are deeply flawed, but a 23-year-old woman reading a book in a classroom would not have caused us to fly off the handle. A pervert teacher or coach? A whole different story.
I am a parent. The parents who complained are prudes and hypocrites. Then again, I studied Sociology in college (if it had a better bill-paying potential it would have been my major) as well as *gasp* HUMAN SEXUALITY (which also covers how the reproductive system works, childbirth, contraception, STD's...). This country was founded by PRUDES and we have never quite gotten away from that background.
People profess to be loving/forgiving people based on religion and then proceed to show that those WORDS are just WORDS - not lessons taken to heart. They proceed to show that morals don't encompass mistakes and don't allow for forgiveness. What this teaches our young people is that THEY better never make a mistake or they will never be forgiven. THEY better never make a questionable career move or they will never be allowed to grow and move past it. They want their kids to not know how they were conceived ... I guarantee that EVERY SINGLE PARENT who complained has HAD SEX ... tho they may not have enjoyed it or admitted to enjoying it. They probably even have had sex without it being for the purpose of conceiving a child. I know my husband and I practiced and practiced and practiced conceiving a child - and we continue to practice it even though my husband was snipped over 2 years ago.
So, I support the statement that PARENTS (in general) are STUPID.
@Cat -- Wise words...I second that!
It has been stated many times in this thread, that Americans are generally prudes. I agree. The biggest problem with this is, such fear and loathing of human sexuality has contributed to general ignorance on the subject. Kids get into trouble (pregnancy, STDs, etc.), because they have no clue what sex is about, other than what their own bodies are SCREAMING at them (I want sex!) and what their friends are telling them (sex is cool). Parents refuse to acknowledge that their little angels have sex drives (HELLO! They're human, aren't they?), therefore they NEED to be educated on the subject. Otherwise, the only way their natural curiosity is satisfied is through EXPERIMENTATION! Is the really how you want your kid to learn about sex? Part of me wishes this lady HAD talked to the kids about her past. Maybe she could have dispelled some myths and taught them some VALUABLE lessons about the risks and consequences of being sexually active - something too many parents REFUSE to do.
I have two young daughters, and I try VERY hard to keep open communication with them. (They're pre-teen now, so you can imagine how hard it is getting them to talk about anything.) I want them to know what exists in the world, what to expect, what is happening within their own growing bodies, and what responsibilities they MUST face as a result.
There is no better protection for your children than knowledge.
What she did 2 years ago has nothing to do with what she's doing now.And I doubt 1st 2nd and 3rd graders even know what porn even is.People need to "get a life"
They have a life and that is raising their kids. A parents job is always thankless.
Please. I have a 10yo boy. There is nothing wrong with this women reading to kids.
@Tj I always thanked my mother ad father for what they did, and my oldest is only 5 and i'm sure she will thank me when she gets older liek how i did with my parents.
Godsmack4 - How does having a 10 year old boy qualify you for being a good parent? Your statement alone shows that you don't have any standards for parenting.
Hell, as long as she was dressed completely, was not showing "moves", and was nice and polite, there is no difference between her and most new teachers fresh out of college. Seriously, this is why kids have issues, and end up going to extremes the first chance they have away from their parents. I think people need to just TALK to their kids rather than hide their kids from life. What if she had a kid in that school, and joined the PTA? What would you have done then? Tell her that her type isnt welcome into the group called "parents". Being a parent is a thankless job only if you are looking at it through fuzzy goggles. Everything about it reaps thanks. We each have our own days that our kids and spouses make us breakfast and baby us. We get cool handmade presents (the best kind if you ask me). Saturdays are a family day, where we get to hear about the nonsense that is kids, and it makes me smile. I got to see 3 girls cuddled up with their father at 7:30 this morning, and I was kicked out of bed for it. That might make some sad, but it makes me smile because I know they love him, and he loves them. Its written all over their faces. And his. The thanks you get is that look of total love and respect from a 2 year old when you give her kisses when she gets hurt. THAT is thanks enough.
Herr, I am sure there was a time in your life that you were not the perfect being you are today. Shall we look upon you only at the time when you did something you regret?
It's humerous that you would rather teach your child about porn so you could express outrage over soomething. Or would you lie to your child about why you are mad? Call her evil or something. Or perhaps your child will die if she is around them.
You seem to think that people can't change their ways. Guess that means you will always be who you are too. That's a shame.
Herr Langer: You are another person who is into judging others harshly. That is Unjustified.
William Shatner and Angie Dickinson both made porns to survive their early Hollywood years. Bet no parents would have complained if "Capt. Kirk" came to the school to read to their kids.
Herr, I hope you don't have children. Your judgmental attitude shows that you are not FIT to be in charge of raising a plant, much less a thinking, feeling HUMAN BEING. I have serious doubts as to YOUR qualifications as a parent since you appear to adhere to a very narrow mindset and can not think outside your own prejudices.
Some 3rd graders do know what porn is - or at least, they have a rudimentary understanding.
Whether they do or not, or whether they knew she was a porn actress or not, really isn't relevant. What they see her doing now - reaching out, reading to kids, doing something positive - is really all that matters.
I commend her actions toward education. If the complainers took time to focus on education, their eyes would open to see no one has a right to throw any stones at anyone.
Continue to educate, for as she already knows, everyone won't always agree with what you're doing. You know your heart, and that's all that matters.
Yeah, I'd like to know how many of the parents bitching about this woman reading to their kids have actually volunteered to read to the kids.
I seriously doubt that any of the kids recognized the "pretty lady" reading to them as a porn actress. Well, at least she can read. Lighten up folks, there is no need to visit your prejudices onto these kids.
It's reasonable to assume that none of the first or thirds graders knew she was a former pornstar..until now...and I doubt she was reading an issue of Letter's to Penthouse or doing it in the nude, so what's the big deal?
bible neo christians, the moral police, let it go.
I happen to be a Christian, and even I think the parents are overreacting.
They are over-reacting.
There is no difference what she does vs. all politicians including oDUMBo . At least she works for a living.
Can't keep from bringing your politics into at least one Newsvine article, can you?
What in the world does this have to do with the President?
To balance the political nonsense. If little Georgie Bush came to the school, the kids would have to read to him!
oDUMBo... haha, wow, good one. never heard anything as clever as that.
Ah yes. oDumbo. My fave cartoon!
Yeah, I hate it when young adults take an active interest in the education of the youth of tomorrow. That's just so, so damaging to the children, who are psychics and would have known instantly that this woman was a porn star.
At least she can read and she was willing to do something for the school and kids. That's probably more than most (If not all) the parents do.
I went to a school in Harford County MD with a group of motorcyclist to read to the kids. I don't think their parents knew about it.
OK, so here's my question; How did the parents know she's a porn start? (-: Also, did the kids know she's a former porn star?
That was my thought as I was reading this article.......I'm fairly certain the children didn't know, but I'm thinking at least ONE parent was perhaps watching *gasp* porn and recognized her.
Mommy, that's the lady that dad has the picture of under the bed. she read to us today.
Googled her. Wouldn't you?
I never even heard of her.
Who cares?
At least she's trying to do something positive and help out a little. You'd think people would commend her efforts rather than try and tear her down. I mean, yeah she does porn. And? She's been pretty darn successful in her chosen profession and it's a profession with a short shelf life. She's decided it's time to do something different and positive. Good job Sasha.
Too bad most people don't take that kind of initiative with their own kids. If they did, that program might not be necessary in the first place!
An adult women having consensual sex on or off camera and people are upset she's reading to children - I have two words - Joe Paterno -
And as a woman living in the north of England I have to say I agree with you.
Joe Paterno? The the biggest jack a ss statement i ever heard! Paterno did nothing to kids, never saw anything and reported it! Jerk. Try Sandusky! he's the one you effin moron.
Paterno is as much to blame as if he had sodomized the little boys himself. Sandusky was his 40 year player, intern, close friend, associate and protege. He knew who Jerry Sandusky was. You effin defender of child rapers.
Leave it to a guy with god and smack in the same name to start the first fight. Paterno didn't do anything FOR the kids, and that's the flaming message.
Godsmack is a heavy metal band. Why didn't the people that saw these kids being abused call the police! That's how the first kid came forward, an adult saw an inappropriate situation and did something about it. If someone tells you they saw a crime committed, but they don't go to the police; what can you or the police even do?
Wow, somesanity. You win moron of the day award. WTF does one have to do with the other??? Moron!!
First, I'm pretty sure none of the children knew or cared about Sasha Grey's past, so how is that a problem? Second, L.A. is a total s***hole anyway, so an ex-pornstar reading to kids is the LEAST of their problems. Third, I echo the sentiment of some previous posts. It's funny that these parents are so damned concerned about her reading a book to their children when they probably wouldn't take the time to do it themselves. I wonder if they don't let their kids watch Michael Vick play football, either, because he was a bad man, too.
P.S. dips***, Joe Paterno didn't molest those kids. Actually do some reading yourself somesanityplease...
Wonder how many of the complaining parents/posters here bother to take an hour to read to kids at school. That's what I thought.
good point, if those complaining parents at the school were going to read to classes containing their own kids she wouldn't have had a class needing her to read.
Working a day job? Paying taxes for you?
How many read to their kids at home for that matter? That job now belongs to "Dora", "Elmo" and "Leap Frog"; not to mention "Nintendo" and "Playstation"!
tex-478405: I pay my own taxes. I've even been known to read to other peoples' kids. Care to try again pinhead?
THATS STUPID and possibly racist or classist.
Some wanna be actresss manager suggests that she join other celebs in doing a kids charity and you idiots think she fighting illiteracy?
How dare you morons say Sasha shouldn't be judged for being a porn star (2 years ago) but .....OH....you know those people don't read to their kids?
You and towerlight are morons.
Yea, the READ ACROSS AMERICA only stops in bad neighborhoods where the parents are too busy smokin crack to read to their kids.
Thanks Sasha for saving them! You are so much better than the people in Compton (and the folks on this board know Sasha and the Compton parents personally)
I am not dissing Compton in anyway, shape or form. Nor have I made any reference to a bad neighborhood or smoking crack. FYI -- some rich people don't read to their kids and suck at parenting too.
What I do disagree with is unforgiving, simple-, single-, narrowed-minded individuals and they did themselves a disfavor by getting their panties in a bunch. The only reason the children will care about it now is because the parents made a fuss...want to popularize something, publicize it as "bad" or "scandalous". Because then everyone wants to know about it.
I'am a Grandma and I volunteer to read to children as well as help out as a chaperone when the children take field trips.
Damn, she can read to me ANYTIME!
Sat. 11/12/11
HOT, HOT, HOT ! Sasha Grey can read to me anytime ! & I'm a GrandFather !
Double Standard happening here. Kim K made a mint on Her Porn Film & She is a main stream TV & Hollywierd. By the way I really enjoyed both Film Stars !
SPW in Alaska
Gotta agree with you, Bro!!
I'm gonna start an elementary school and get her to cum...err... come read there! OH, yeah! One more bedtime story, please!
Amil0905
Great question! Seems like what's done in the dark is CUMING (no pun intended) to the light with some of those parents. Ooooo Yeah!!!!!!!!!!
Forgive me, I couldn't help myself on this one.............
I think u mean pun intended