no way....that's where my dad lives......I'm goin' down to visit in a couple weeks too.....his name is Sam too......is that you dad??? ......just kidding.
What kind of security does this prison have that two guys --(one in his 50's) can get up a vent, into a maintaince hallway, break lock and get overrazar-wire fences without detection -- only discovered they are gone after a "head count"??? Also, like others sas maybe they should "up" the reward a little -- and invest in a digital camera to update the photos every year! If they can take a annual photos in grade school -- should be able to do it in jail too!
What kind of security does this prison have that two guys --(one in his 50's) can get up a vent, into a maintaince hallway, break lock and get overrazar-wire fences without detection -- only discovered they are gone after a "head count"???
Not to mention, the picture of the older guy had him in a neck brace.
Ahhh, the old "escaping through air vent" trick. I guess they probably should have seen that one coming.
Never have man-sized air vents in a prison cell, and never give the prisoners enough sheets to tie together to make an escape rope. And always check the strange lumps under the covers, they're just pillows. (Oh and double check what's behind the large poster of Brigitte Bardot hanging on the wall)
Well first off I hope they are picked up quick. But to shed light on why there being held in a jail. They have not been convicted yet so where else are they suppost to hold them? Plus a jail is suppost to be build for max custody because they get all walks of life. From bums needing a bed to killers.....
$1000 on catching someone with a first degree murder charge???? Come on Florida, I know money is tight, but that is chump change on those 2. If you really want some tips, up the anty. Crazy. Might get whoever helped them to turn on them for a little more money. And...for being held on first degree murder, why didn't they have them a little more secure? Seriously? They probably had some guy in chains tied to the wall for stealing jerky from the local gas station. Yea, he is more of a threat.
If we reform the prison system and empty it of non-violent offenders, (especially weed possession), we wouldn't have the problems with funding and escapes.
Have to agree with nearly all the preceding comments regarding prison incompetence, cheapness (i.e. $1,000 reward) and woefully bad photo records. My first thought on seeing the older guy's mug shot was, "how the hell did Steven Hawking escape from jail?"
Devon, where precisely would you want them to hold individuals who have been charged but who haven't gone to trial yet?
The better question is to ask why it took so long to notice their absence. Guards in most jails are supposed to walk and check up on all inmates every couple of hours at the most after lights out.
Dude looks old & crippled in his outdated mug-shot, and that was the first name that popped into my head. Sorry . . . I didn't realize Mr. Hawking was a personal friend of yours . . . no offense intended.
Obviously from your post you know nothing about the criminal justice system-
which means so far they haven't caught you or else you're so freakin dumb you don't what's going on. All criminals are held in jail until after they're tried.
I hope to God you don't vote- if you do it better be for Democrats- you need the help.
JimC...You're a booger eating moron...I guess you never heard of bail???...not all criminals are held in jail until after they're tried...just look at Lohan...guess you're not to bright either...too bad you're a republican makes the rest of us look bad...
Yea they used their rain jackets as floatation devices to cross the moat after scaling the fence. No one ever heard from them again so the authorities say they didn't actually make it. They were swept away and drown in the drainage ditch or maybe eaten by alligators. Or they crawled through a 1/2 mile of human crap and came out clean on the other side. Check Zihuatanejo Mexico.
mike, bail for murder? Want to rethink that one? Very rare capital crimes are granted bail. And if they are, the price tag is a little out of the range of what these two could probably cough up.
Well Mike the way I see it is ALL REPUBLICAN ARE NOT TO BRIGHT,look at the ones runing for the hights office in the USA,omg help us what has this country become with nuts like that???
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What has this got to do with politics!?!?! I hate trolls who try and make every story about politics.
I hope they catch these two quickly before they kill anyone else. I think it is a good bet that they are armed by now. Upping the reward would probably help a little with catching them.
This is why we need more executions,murders cant escape death from deaths clutches.. I realize they werent sentenced yet but it could have just has easily been sentenced killers..
However, prisoners have been escaping ever since there have been prisons.
Trying to equate this escape with the Governors policies is just the byproduct of a pre-adolescent mind crying for help.
These two will be captured again in time. Hopefully before they hurt anyone else.
Of course there will be those who would blame any injuries these miscreants cause on the Governor too. Such is the way of the feeble minded and agenda driven.
I like what Karl Stevens said...I guess that makes me a "troll," too. So what if people what to bring politics into this? Governor Scott is the biggest criminal who is on the loose in Florida besides these two guys in Vero Beach.
Hate to break the news to you but your Florida Governor is an IDIOT who should have been indicted & jailed for the scandal he pulled of with his Health Providing company. While prison breaks have nothing to do with Politics, his slashing everything damn sure doesn't help the situation.. i.e. less Prison Guards, less counts, less eyes to watch inmates who then escape. Less Police to track them down, so they run wild and who knows who or how many folks get hurt just because they had the bad luck to encounter them. This is what happens with the Slash & Burn policies of the Conservatives. I guess more Tax Cuts for the mythical Job Creators will solve the problem. maybe Cantor can take his punk a$$ down there and help locate the escapees huh?
When you slash budgets, like those for prisons, so you can slash taxes for so-called job creators (so-called because where are all the jobs?) and the few employees left are stretched so thin they can't stop anything, whose fault is it? Not the employees who are barely paid to do an almost impossible job.
So much for Repubbies and their 24/7 efforts to send more jobs overseas.
Oh dear...criminals escape from jail ... ughh...and we blame the governor...how about the guards ... who got paid to close these cameras so they could get out...sad state of affairs...no one heard them plotting this escape??? just sounds too fishy to me...so sorry people don't put blame on the people who are directly involved ... sad...we hope they get them back in prison before they do more harm...stop being so politically correct...the dam was broken way before...the people who commint crimes...take care Vero Beach citizens...and surrounding area's...to many criminal tv and movies , sad world we live in...when pass the buck is so important... please get around to seek them fast ...bitterness eats away at the soul...
Considering the 'Castle Law' which exists in the state of Florida, the solution to the problem is obvious; somebody please invite the miscreants in for coffee and cookies.
That is if you can do a quick 'photo-shop' of their mug shots to be able to recognize them in their current physical appearances.
DUDE! I saw Rick Scott driving around in a Ferrari with a posy of hot girls! He also had lots of gold jewelry on. He sure is lining his pockets! LMAO.(just kidding)...f'ng idiots.
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You just know that every Democrat is wetting themselves with glee over the fact that these two repressed men have regained their freedom.
Democrats insist that all prisons be designed specifically with ease of escape in mind, of course if murderers didn't escape from prison then the Dems. would have no one to vote for them.
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Why are the conservatives here blaming the "liberals" because two inmates ecaped a prison under the watch of a Conservative Gov? I would have thought the GOP would be iembracinf these two -- they showed good-oll fashining republican =pull temselves up by thier own boot straps" -- and also should that white/black, old/young can work together in a common goal! Sarah Palin would be proud!!!
Common, we know this isn't Scott's fault. Bush is to blame here. Duhh. Obama tried to prevent this from happening, but the Republicans blocked the Summer of Recovery. If only we had hope and change, these two criminals would have stayed in prison. Instead we have Tea Party nuts who allowed these guys to break free. So lets blame Bush and the Tea Party. Nobody else is to blame. Remember, Biden did say not passing the jobs bill meant women would be raped and people would be murdered. This is all the proof I need to know Biden is God and can predict the future.
First question to come to mind was whether this was another for-profit prison striving for maximum profit. Can county jails be farmed out? I didn't think so, but google corrected that thought.
-SAM, gee a bit jumpy aren't we you want to execute them before they are tried, must be a Perry supporter! LOL, I'm sure you didn't mean exactly that.
Raider - that's great stuff....been watching Faux News lately....the conservatives and their mouthpieces are pretty good at that stuff as well, as a matter of fact Karl Rove wrote the book on it (some of us liberals can even read).
Or CSI Miami. They just did a show that sounds like this breakout was taken from.
Best (or worst) I ever saw was on the "A" Team. They broke out of prison with plastic trash bags, duct tape, a lawn chair, and 4 blow dryers. And a VERY long extension cord.
My cousin was a prisoner being transported from one state to another by a civilian contract transportation service. This guy needs to be in prison and stay in prison.
They stopped at Burger King, one guard got out to get a happy meal, the other one was napping in the front seat....the next thing, my cousin was long gone. The police finally got him 300 miles away, after he stole a gun, robbed a bank, at least one car and who knows what else. The state was looking to slash funds. If you pay crap wages, you get crap employees. In the end, it costs more than what you were looking to save.
On Bonanza they whistled for their favorite horse to come to the window, tied him to the bars and had him take off. The horse ripped the bars out of the wall and the prisoners were free. Or maybe that was on the Big Valley.
The horse ripped the bars out of the wall and the prisoners were free. Or maybe that was on the Big Valley.
No. Big Valley was filmed in California. I heard they whistled for the horse, but he was on a union break. After his break, they tied the horse to the bars, swatted his butt, and the horse ended up hurting his back. He's still doing the Workhorse Comp thing.
To point. "It was a county jail. Not a real prison." That's what is happening all over the country as Republicans cut state funding, but continue to put more and more people in jail with zero tolerance laws.
We end up with not enough beds in "real prisons", so the state puts criminals like this in County jails not capable of handling anything more serious than someone who blew a .08 last Friday night.
If they can't afford current photos, they can't afford much of a reward. This must be what it feels like to live in a third world country...interesting.
BOB "We end up with not enough beds in "real prisons", so the state puts criminals like this in County jails " You don't know enough about the judicial and prison system to make a statement like that. All prisoners who are on trial, waiting for trial, waiting for sentencing, or are serving less than a year, stay in county jails, It has nothing to do with enough beds in real prisons. Before you start blaming a system you know nothing about, try to do a little research first.
John Their photos would have been updated when they got to prison after sentencing.
Are you kidding, a pass, hell this administration tries to charge it's on military! You think the locals would get the OK to give a pass on that? No Way!
Prisons only house people convicted of felonies that are serving sentences of more than one year. The article implies both men were awaiting trial. So why would they be in a prison?
I'm surprised any Liberal is upset with this after all weren't these guys just poor misunderstood children from right wing church going conservative families.
By running from the law they put themselves outside of the law. I hope cops will just shoot them on sight and spare the public from lengthy and costly trials.
raven - they are both murderers. It would be no loss to society if they were put out of their misery and save the tax payers some money. I'm for taking them out.
... because you should always murder a murderer... Killing another human being is wrong, so you should kill anyone who does it. I always love that logic (or lack thereof.)
@FreyjasSong-4164669 How about if we spare the state of Florida the expense of housing and feeding these two and have them move right in with you!!! You express an idiotic idea.
because you should always murder a murderer... Killing another human being is wrong, so you should kill anyone who does it. I always love that logic (or lack thereof.)
Or we could just have them move in with you.. A Utah woman had logic similar to yours, invited a convicted murder into her house, after he got out.. They found her body a few days later..
Wow it is just amazing how people are so appt to stand behind the murder. How many people are they gonna kill why there are fleeing from the Law. Thank God that Florida has laws that people can protect themselves and shoot someone who breaks in there house, etc if they feel threatened. Unlike Illinois and other states that want to ban the citizens from having Guns. But wait its ok for Murders and criminals to have guns. Lets just put our heads in the sand and hope that we don't get shot. The reason that society has got so bad is that there is no quick justice system anymore. Back in the west and even long before that if you committed a crime you were brought back dead or alive didn't matter. And if you were brought back alive you were judged, sentanced and carried out within 24 hours. There was also public hangings that made people very aware that if they did the crime they payed the price. And not at the cost of tax payers to keep them in a comfy Prison with TV, Internet access, Last meals of there choice etc.
Hey "FreyjasSon-4164669"--Who said killing another human being is wrong? You? Then you need to back that with more than just your opinion, and your reason/maxim needs to be true in all cases with no logical fallacies.
they are both murderers. It would be no loss to society if they were put out of their misery and save the tax payers some money. I'm for taking them out.
Why is it that liberals always defend the murderers, they seem to have some burning need to understand why they murder and then find some excuse for them, they had a bad childhood, they never had a chance, or whatever excuse they can come up with. Just put a bullet in their head to keep them from murdering again and then try to figure out why they did it in the first place, liberals seem to want to try to reason with a rabid dog.
I'm in the west and we sure got guns. Why wait up for the ten o'clock news and get the skinney on the shooting of the day. Sometimes it's little kids shooting each other and/or themselves. Woopee! We got our second amendmit RATS!!
As for who says killing a human being is wrong- Try the "right to lifers" for one, and just about every religion ever (well maybe not the aztecs)
@Steve, nice blanket statement. How'd you come up with that one? Learn to stop using the term 'liberals' as a four-letter word. Just because some of us don't enjoy listening to the fear and hate BS that Rush Limbaugh spews, or the propaganda displayed on Faux News, doesn't mean our hearts bleed for dumba$$es like these two. And just incase anyone was wondering... it is actually much cheaper to house and feed a criminal for life, than to sentence them to death when you factor in all the appeals the always take advantage of.
You've just qualified yourself as a whack job loony. Do you generally make a practice of spouting asininities as your version of thoughtful logic? Which liberals have you ever had a reasoned discussion with? Oh, sorry. Reasoning is clearly not your strong suite.
tpix, lets start with your Liberal VP who says if we don't pass the jobs bill rapes and murders are going to go up, or the enemy are at the gate or the right wants to see the black man hanging from a tree. Nice starting points for a reasoned discussion.
We need to go back to the days of hot bologna eggs and gravy three times a day, no work out rooms, no color t.v. and certainly no family visits, and I am not talking the phone kind of visits, no books except the bible, and make them get up at 5:00 in the morning and dig ditches all day and mabe they will think twice about doing wrong!
You have to remember that this is Florida with our nutball Republican governor, Rick Scott who has declared war on state employees and county government. He has reduced staffing and cut wages for all programs run by the state, while reducing state funding for all of the counties to the point that they cannot provide adequate staffing for offices and facilities that they manage, including jails and prisons. This is the Republican governor whose company paid the largest Medicare fraud fine in the history of the United States. Don't believe me? Google "Rick Scott" "Medicare fraud" and see what you get. Another fine "pro-business" GOP politician.
i never said i'm for the murderers. NEVER. i believe they should be punished, definitely. but to call for their killing .. makes you a murderer too, right? or not? because the way i see it ... this blood lust that our society has .. is frightening.
and honey, you're sadly mistaken if you think prison is comfy. and HAHAHAHA @ last meal of their choice. jeez .. how does this HURT you?
millions of more dollars than it takes to house a prisoner for life, go to funding wars that we have no business being in. oh yea, and all that senseless killing - bet that's okay with you too.
Wow it is just amazing how people are so appt to stand behind the murder. How many people are they gonna kill why there are fleeing from the Law. Thank God that Florida has laws that people can protect themselves and shoot someone who breaks in there house, etc if they feel threatened. Unlike Illinois and other states that want to ban the citizens from having Guns. But wait its ok for Murders and criminals to have guns. Lets just put our heads in the sand and hope that we don't get shot. The reason that society has got so bad is that there is no quick justice system anymore. Back in the west and even long before that if you committed a crime you were brought back dead or alive didn't matter. And if you were brought back alive you were judged, sentanced and carried out within 24 hours. There was also public hangings that made people very aware that if they did the crime they payed the price. And not at the cost of tax payers to keep them in a comfy Prison with TV, Internet access, Last meals of there choice etc.
raven - they are both murderers. It would be no loss to society if they were put out of their misery and save the tax payers some money. I'm for taking them out.
...and sentence you to spelling camp, followed by compassion-and-understanding-of-life-college, ya bilious mean-spirited blowhard. Move to China, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, and you can enjoy swift executions every week in the village square. Our sentences are way too long and usually out of proportion, certainty and speed of sentencing are more important and more effective than eventual 20-30-year and life terms. Anyway who can fault them for bustin' out, or wish them ill on that count alone?
Tommy Twochips is an idiot! Spoken like a convict. Stuff these animals in prisons, take everything away except a library, and let them rot until there sentence is up. No TV, no weights, no college! It is a punishment not the country club!
certainty and speed of sentencing are more important and more effective than eventual 20-30-year and life terms. Anyway who can fault them for bustin' out, or wish them ill on that count alone?
They're murderers. How much compassion did they show their victims? Cry me a @!$%#ing river. Like previous posters said, LET EM MOVE IN WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. Probably be a rude surprise when you get home.
Besides the prison having easy ways to escape, they should update their inmates photo every year ( not that hard to do since they're in prison)...those photo's were taken years ago most likely.
you must all be sitting at home with no work and you thought it would be fun to respond to this story. All you're done is reveal your ignorance. These guys were in a county jail- awaiting trial for the charges listed. They have no sentence as yet- this escape will be added to the charges if they're brought back alive. I worked in the Fl. system and i don't recall anyone escaping from Indian River before Scott took over. maybe Scott owns the bloodhounds.
Did Scott build the jail? Did he cause the inmates to perform the crimes for which they are indicted? You trolls crack me up. Prison breaks, sex between inmates and guards as well as smuggling in drugs and beatings are part of the Florida Criminal Justice System well before Rick Scott.
Besides, these two probably just wanted to break out so they could vote for obama.
Taylor was already tried-he was due to be sentenced for first-degree. Reed had a criminal history from North Carolina and has been in jail awaiting trial in Florida.
How come the jail hasn't updated the photos? I would think that the initial photos would have been taken by the sheriff's department during processing for the initial arrest? Does the county release the inmates' files during processing through the system (sheriff's department to county) or is each facility responsible for the updates?
I'm guessing you're just A dumbass redneck who couldn't get a job so you joined the service to phuck up that organization. I did 20 (for our side) and I saw plenty of you losers- no brain. no clue about life- I got out because i was tired of trying to make you clowns see the right and wrong of life.
You know like that movie no escape or escape from new york. Hell it would force them to take care of themselves while taking each other out and ho wants to be locked in a cage anyway its win win for everyone.
It was called Alcatraz and they shut it down in 1963. They shut down McNeil Island too. Besides, being surrounded by water is no deterrent to prisoners desperate to escape. I say stick the prison in the middle of a desert, 200 miles from the nearest water source. Let's see how many escapes pan out then...
skip the boat patrols, make the surrounding ocean a shark breeding and rehab zone. Drop some meat out of a helicopter now and then while the inmates are watching :)
Right? Gotta wonder what kind of parent names their kid after a book full of 'abomination' decrees and brutal punishments. I'm imagining SUCH a happy childhood...
The authorities say they may have "outside help,". This is probably true considering the landscape. However a Florida Secure Facility requires more then some kind of "rod," to get out. The 24 hour closed circuit cameras, the auto alarms for unauthorized egress, etc. This is clearly an INSIDE JOB!
New found freedom? You do realize that this was a county jail and not a prison. What this means is that these inmates weren't charged with thier crimes yet. So that "new found freedom" and "peace" you were hoping they find probably won't happen. If they felt the need to escape before being judged by thier peers it just shows how innocent these guys are.
So tired of hearing the "political" angle on this.
Who is the idiot that allowed vents/hvac ducts big enough for a person to fit into? Oh, and then have access to a maintenance hallway. Sounds like a major design flaw to me...not an issue of cut backs.
So you liberals who insist on making this about politics; "SAVE IT!!"
Which City in Florida?
Vero Beach
no way....that's where my dad lives......I'm goin' down to visit in a couple weeks too.....his name is Sam too......is that you dad??? ......just kidding.
Up to $1,000.00 reward ... WOW ... let me drop everything!!!!!
They both look like Burt Reynolds and Lil Wayne.
LOL @ Zorroaca44
Zorroaca, do it twice as fast because I heard you can get up to $1000 each for them. That oughta get the lynch mobs rallied.
i.e. brings to mind the comedy of an Austin Powers ....1000.00 Really???
1k, that doesn't sound to dangerous to me. Besides it said they were being held, it didn't say they have been convicted.
What kind of security does this prison have that two guys --(one in his 50's) can get up a vent, into a maintaince hallway, break lock and get overrazar-wire fences without detection -- only discovered they are gone after a "head count"??? Also, like others sas maybe they should "up" the reward a little -- and invest in a digital camera to update the photos every year! If they can take a annual photos in grade school -- should be able to do it in jail too!
Not to mention, the picture of the older guy had him in a neck brace.
Bebop-753206 ... looking at your mug ... a dime would get me going!!!
Would it be too much to ask why in the hell two DANGEROUS first degree murderers are being held in a county jail???
They're probably not as dangerous as the owners of the prison and the system they run
Ahhh, the old "escaping through air vent" trick. I guess they probably should have seen that one coming.
Never have man-sized air vents in a prison cell, and never give the prisoners enough sheets to tie together to make an escape rope. And always check the strange lumps under the covers, they're just pillows. (Oh and double check what's behind the large poster of Brigitte Bardot hanging on the wall)
Well first off I hope they are picked up quick. But to shed light on why there being held in a jail. They have not been convicted yet so where else are they suppost to hold them? Plus a jail is suppost to be build for max custody because they get all walks of life. From bums needing a bed to killers.....
they're both first degree murderers, you my friend are an idiot.
$1000 on catching someone with a first degree murder charge???? Come on Florida, I know money is tight, but that is chump change on those 2. If you really want some tips, up the anty. Crazy. Might get whoever helped them to turn on them for a little more money. And...for being held on first degree murder, why didn't they have them a little more secure? Seriously? They probably had some guy in chains tied to the wall for stealing jerky from the local gas station. Yea, he is more of a threat.
If we reform the prison system and empty it of non-violent offenders, (especially weed possession), we wouldn't have the problems with funding and escapes.
Have to agree with nearly all the preceding comments regarding prison incompetence, cheapness (i.e. $1,000 reward) and woefully bad photo records. My first thought on seeing the older guy's mug shot was, "how the hell did Steven Hawking escape from jail?"
Devon, where precisely would you want them to hold individuals who have been charged but who haven't gone to trial yet?
The better question is to ask why it took so long to notice their absence. Guards in most jails are supposed to walk and check up on all inmates every couple of hours at the most after lights out.
Steven Hawking? WTF??
Dude looks old & crippled in his outdated mug-shot, and that was the first name that popped into my head. Sorry . . . I didn't realize Mr. Hawking was a personal friend of yours . . . no offense intended.
Devon
Obviously from your post you know nothing about the criminal justice system-
which means so far they haven't caught you or else you're so freakin dumb you don't what's going on. All criminals are held in jail until after they're tried.
I hope to God you don't vote- if you do it better be for Democrats- you need the help.
JimC...You're a booger eating moron...I guess you never heard of bail???...not all criminals are held in jail until after they're tried...just look at Lohan...guess you're not to bright either...too bad you're a republican makes the rest of us look bad...
Yea they used their rain jackets as floatation devices to cross the moat after scaling the fence. No one ever heard from them again so the authorities say they didn't actually make it. They were swept away and drown in the drainage ditch or maybe eaten by alligators. Or they crawled through a 1/2 mile of human crap and came out clean on the other side. Check Zihuatanejo Mexico.
mike, bail for murder? Want to rethink that one? Very rare capital crimes are granted bail. And if they are, the price tag is a little out of the range of what these two could probably cough up.
Well Mike the way I see it is ALL REPUBLICAN ARE NOT TO BRIGHT,look at the ones runing for the hights office in the USA,omg help us what has this country become with nuts like that???
Gaylita: spoken like a true mindless liberal tool. You can't even spell and punctuate correctly yet you call Republicans "NOT TO BRIGHT [sic]."
There's an old saying: Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
You succeeded in the latter.
only $1,000 for their capture?? hahah good luck with that
90% of prison inmates are democrat liberals.
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right on Leeee 1102, very well said my friend
@ Leee - But when Democrats slander Republicans it's all true right? LOL.
As right-wing Florida governor Rick Scott continues to slash government programs while lining his own pockets, you will see more of this.
WOW it only took two post, AMAZING!!
lol
WAHO -
Sarcasm, just one more way to mask the truth.
What has this got to do with politics!?!?! I hate trolls who try and make every story about politics.
I hope they catch these two quickly before they kill anyone else. I think it is a good bet that they are armed by now. Upping the reward would probably help a little with catching them.
KarlStevens is right about Scott.
Gotta love Florida.
KarlStevens is right about Scott.
Gotta love Florida.
Or maybe it's a lazy UNION employee not doing his job because it's to much like WORK.
This is why we need more executions,murders cant escape death from deaths clutches.. I realize they werent sentenced yet but it could have just has easily been sentenced killers..
I love our Governor!
However, prisoners have been escaping ever since there have been prisons.
Trying to equate this escape with the Governors policies is just the byproduct of a pre-adolescent mind crying for help.
These two will be captured again in time. Hopefully before they hurt anyone else.
Of course there will be those who would blame any injuries these miscreants cause on the Governor too. Such is the way of the feeble minded and agenda driven.
I like what Karl Stevens said...I guess that makes me a "troll," too. So what if people what to bring politics into this? Governor Scott is the biggest criminal who is on the loose in Florida besides these two guys in Vero Beach.
Hate to break the news to you but your Florida Governor is an IDIOT who should have been indicted & jailed for the scandal he pulled of with his Health Providing company. While prison breaks have nothing to do with Politics, his slashing everything damn sure doesn't help the situation.. i.e. less Prison Guards, less counts, less eyes to watch inmates who then escape. Less Police to track them down, so they run wild and who knows who or how many folks get hurt just because they had the bad luck to encounter them. This is what happens with the Slash & Burn policies of the Conservatives. I guess more Tax Cuts for the mythical Job Creators will solve the problem. maybe Cantor can take his punk a$$ down there and help locate the escapees huh?
Fire all Cops, Fire Fighters and Teachers - sheit we don't need no stinking COPS. Pass this BILL Dumbass GOP Right wing Teabag nutjobs
When you slash budgets, like those for prisons, so you can slash taxes for so-called job creators (so-called because where are all the jobs?) and the few employees left are stretched so thin they can't stop anything, whose fault is it? Not the employees who are barely paid to do an almost impossible job.
So much for Repubbies and their 24/7 efforts to send more jobs overseas.
Oh dear...criminals escape from jail ... ughh...and we blame the governor...how about the guards ... who got paid to close these cameras so they could get out...sad state of affairs...no one heard them plotting this escape??? just sounds too fishy to me...so sorry people don't put blame on the people who are directly involved ... sad...we hope they get them back in prison before they do more harm...stop being so politically correct...the dam was broken way before...the people who commint crimes...take care Vero Beach citizens...and surrounding area's...to many criminal tv and movies , sad world we live in...when pass the buck is so important... please get around to seek them fast ...bitterness eats away at the soul...
Wasnt it the union dumbasses who let them escape in the first place.
Considering the 'Castle Law' which exists in the state of Florida, the solution to the problem is obvious; somebody please invite the miscreants in for coffee and cookies.
That is if you can do a quick 'photo-shop' of their mug shots to be able to recognize them in their current physical appearances.
Looks like maybe there's a few we don't need. As for teachers, these two idiots came out of your public schools.
DUDE! I saw Rick Scott driving around in a Ferrari with a posy of hot girls! He also had lots of gold jewelry on. He sure is lining his pockets! LMAO.(just kidding)...f'ng idiots.
If we pass the stimulus bill we can pay someone to watch the vent openings in each cell.
RoddyWerner
SHUUUDDDDUPPP!!! Rove-bot!
First three from the long list of Rove tactics.
TACTICS FOR EFFECTIVE CONSERVATIVE BLOGGING By Karl Rove
Engage- Demand an elaborate, time-consuming comparison / analysis between your position and theirs.
Entangle- Insist that the Liberal put their posts in their own words. That will consume the most time and effort for the Liberal poster. They will be unable to spread numerous points on numerous blogs if you have them occupied. Allowing a Liberal to post a web link is too quick and efficient for them. Tie them up. We are going for delay of game here.
Demoralize- Dismiss their narrative as rubbish immediately.
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You just know that every Democrat is wetting themselves with glee over the fact that these two repressed men have regained their freedom.
Democrats insist that all prisons be designed specifically with ease of escape in mind, of course if murderers didn't escape from prison then the Dems. would have no one to vote for them.
Boost the reward and change the wording to dead or alive - save the court costs and boost the average IQ in the county.
sidneyhop,
Straight from the liberal playbook just for you;
1) Make general broad statements without details or references. ie "We must get Americans working again"....by Pres Obama
2) Refuse to review any opposing views, or a fair vetting process. ie "We must pass Obama's healthcare bill in order to learn what's in it".....by Nancy Pelosi
3) Whenever a white conservative speaks, accuse them of being racist.
4) Class warfare; whenever Gov't cutbacks are in the discussion always follow up with quotes like; "This means we might not be able to pay our troops"....or "I can't promise that social security checks will go out".
5) If all else fails.....blame Pres Bush
LongLeggedJones,
That is a Knee Slapper, and so true for so many of the liberals, not all, but most!
Why are the conservatives here blaming the "liberals" because two inmates ecaped a prison under the watch of a Conservative Gov? I would have thought the GOP would be iembracinf these two -- they showed good-oll fashining republican =pull temselves up by thier own boot straps" -- and also should that white/black, old/young can work together in a common goal! Sarah Palin would be proud!!!
@Eddie in Seattle, man I agree with you but the word is "fewer" ... sigh
Common, we know this isn't Scott's fault. Bush is to blame here. Duhh. Obama tried to prevent this from happening, but the Republicans blocked the Summer of Recovery. If only we had hope and change, these two criminals would have stayed in prison. Instead we have Tea Party nuts who allowed these guys to break free. So lets blame Bush and the Tea Party. Nobody else is to blame. Remember, Biden did say not passing the jobs bill meant women would be raped and people would be murdered. This is all the proof I need to know Biden is God and can predict the future.
First question to come to mind was whether this was another for-profit prison striving for maximum profit. Can county jails be farmed out? I didn't think so, but google corrected that thought.
If nothing else, reading the diatribes of liberals is humorous.
Blah blah blah......
At least one thing is certain, when the collapse does happen, and it will, the anti-gun liberals will be the first ones asking for help.
One last thing, how many of these anti Scott liberals actually live here in Florida anyway?
Less than half would be my bet.
RoddyWerner banned, rereg of multiple accounter valspully. Multiple Arthur Hale also banned.
Well Really, I'm a Floridian. We've had some good Governors like Bush, Crist and Chiles.
Scott is a crook, he should have his own cell for medicare fraud.
However, he is not the cause of this. For the bids to privatize the FL prisons are being collected.
-SAM, gee a bit jumpy aren't we you want to execute them before they are tried, must be a Perry supporter! LOL, I'm sure you didn't mean exactly that.
Raider - that's great stuff....been watching Faux News lately....the conservatives and their mouthpieces are pretty good at that stuff as well, as a matter of fact Karl Rove wrote the book on it (some of us liberals can even read).
how tha-hell do you break out of a prison like that??? was Andy and Barney sleeping again?? .....may wanna up the reward a little too.
Obviously they spent a lot of time watching Prison Break... ;0)
Or CSI Miami. They just did a show that sounds like this breakout was taken from.
JFC...I agree w/you about the reward...I've seen posters w/that for missing dogs...
If you notice the article, it says it was a county jail. Not exactly an actual prison.
not very high security...
Best (or worst) I ever saw was on the "A" Team. They broke out of prison with plastic trash bags, duct tape, a lawn chair, and 4 blow dryers. And a VERY long extension cord.
They've been watching Chuck on NBC. They use the air ducts so often, they have lighting in them.
Since Andy and Barney were asleep, Otis just took the key off the hook by the cell door and let them go so he could have his own cell back.
My cousin was a prisoner being transported from one state to another by a civilian contract transportation service. This guy needs to be in prison and stay in prison.
They stopped at Burger King, one guard got out to get a happy meal, the other one was napping in the front seat....the next thing, my cousin was long gone. The police finally got him 300 miles away, after he stole a gun, robbed a bank, at least one car and who knows what else. The state was looking to slash funds. If you pay crap wages, you get crap employees. In the end, it costs more than what you were looking to save.
On Bonanza they whistled for their favorite horse to come to the window, tied him to the bars and had him take off. The horse ripped the bars out of the wall and the prisoners were free. Or maybe that was on the Big Valley.
I heard they are going to "Disney Word"!!!
They do this everytime meatloaf is served in the cafeteria.
No. Big Valley was filmed in California. I heard they whistled for the horse, but he was on a union break. After his break, they tied the horse to the bars, swatted his butt, and the horse ended up hurting his back. He's still doing the Workhorse Comp thing.
Both very dangerous and the reward is only a thousand dollars? Damn, I hope they are found very soon!
Drop everything; they just changed it to "dead or alive'.
Is there still a bounty? And, if someone brings them in dead, will charges be pressed? Or, do we officially have a "pass?"
To point. "It was a county jail. Not a real prison." That's what is happening all over the country as Republicans cut state funding, but continue to put more and more people in jail with zero tolerance laws.
We end up with not enough beds in "real prisons", so the state puts criminals like this in County jails not capable of handling anything more serious than someone who blew a .08 last Friday night.
If they can't afford current photos, they can't afford much of a reward. This must be what it feels like to live in a third world country...interesting.
BOB "We end up with not enough beds in "real prisons", so the state puts criminals like this in County jails "
You don't know enough about the judicial and prison system to make a statement like that. All prisoners who are on trial, waiting for trial, waiting for sentencing, or are serving less than a year, stay in county jails, It has nothing to do with enough beds in real prisons.
Before you start blaming a system you know nothing about, try to do a little research first.
John Their photos would have been updated when they got to prison after sentencing.
Miker,
Are you kidding, a pass, hell this administration tries to charge it's on military! You think the locals would get the OK to give a pass on that? No Way!
Prisons only house people convicted of felonies that are serving sentences of more than one year. The article implies both men were awaiting trial. So why would they be in a prison?
You don't expect GM to pay in, do you?
Oh, we're a third world country alright.
Vero is the next town up from me. Glad I keep a gun in the car. And the house.
Now if I could only find my RPG. Hmmmm..
I know a girl who blew a lot more than that last Friday night.
You should NOT talk about your sister like that!!!
I'm surprised any Liberal is upset with this after all weren't these guys just poor misunderstood children from right wing church going conservative families.
your so full of it repug get a life,bush left this country in a mess that are ggggrandkids will still be paying off!!!!
I'd say it's a safe bet by now. Especially if they had outside help to escape.
By running from the law they put themselves outside of the law. I hope cops will just shoot them on sight and spare the public from lengthy and costly trials.
and here we go.
another murderous "citizen" on the loose.
you just want put it on the cops.
why don't we just kill EVERYONE and be done with it, eh? oh except you. because you're perfect.
Escaped prisoners don't have trials when recaptured, they get their sentences extended, and moved to Max facilities or Seg units.
raven - they are both murderers. It would be no loss to society if they were put out of their misery and save the tax payers some money. I'm for taking them out.
... because you should always murder a murderer... Killing another human being is wrong, so you should kill anyone who does it. I always love that logic (or lack thereof.)
Welcome to the life of being a Human in a Modern-Blood Thirsty Society, folks! And then get over it! :)
@FreyjasSong-4164669
How about if we spare the state of Florida the expense of housing and feeding these two and have them move right in with you!!! You express an idiotic idea.
Or we could just have them move in with you.. A Utah woman had logic similar to yours, invited a convicted murder into her house, after he got out.. They found her body a few days later..
Wow it is just amazing how people are so appt to stand behind the murder. How many people are they gonna kill why there are fleeing from the Law. Thank God that Florida has laws that people can protect themselves and shoot someone who breaks in there house, etc if they feel threatened. Unlike Illinois and other states that want to ban the citizens from having Guns. But wait its ok for Murders and criminals to have guns. Lets just put our heads in the sand and hope that we don't get shot. The reason that society has got so bad is that there is no quick justice system anymore. Back in the west and even long before that if you committed a crime you were brought back dead or alive didn't matter. And if you were brought back alive you were judged, sentanced and carried out within 24 hours. There was also public hangings that made people very aware that if they did the crime they payed the price. And not at the cost of tax payers to keep them in a comfy Prison with TV, Internet access, Last meals of there choice etc.
Hey "FreyjasSon-4164669"--Who said killing another human being is wrong? You? Then you need to back that with more than just your opinion, and your reason/maxim needs to be true in all cases with no logical fallacies.
Got my vote.....
I've never heard of a dead murderer killing again. Or escaping the graveyard.
Why is it that liberals always defend the murderers, they seem to have some burning need to understand why they murder and then find some excuse for them, they had a bad childhood, they never had a chance, or whatever excuse they can come up with. Just put a bullet in their head to keep them from murdering again and then try to figure out why they did it in the first place, liberals seem to want to try to reason with a rabid dog.
I'm in the west and we sure got guns. Why wait up for the ten o'clock news and get the skinney on the shooting of the day. Sometimes it's little kids shooting each other and/or themselves. Woopee! We got our second amendmit RATS!!
As for who says killing a human being is wrong- Try the "right to lifers" for one, and just about every religion ever (well maybe not the aztecs)
@Steve, nice blanket statement. How'd you come up with that one? Learn to stop using the term 'liberals' as a four-letter word. Just because some of us don't enjoy listening to the fear and hate BS that Rush Limbaugh spews, or the propaganda displayed on Faux News, doesn't mean our hearts bleed for dumba$$es like these two. And just incase anyone was wondering... it is actually much cheaper to house and feed a criminal for life, than to sentence them to death when you factor in all the appeals the always take advantage of.
You're an idiot.
Steve - liberals don't want these people executed because that is their base demographic
if you kill all the whack job loony bin moronic murderers there would be no one left to vote Democrat
You've just qualified yourself as a whack job loony. Do you generally make a practice of spouting asininities as your version of thoughtful logic? Which liberals have you ever had a reasoned discussion with? Oh, sorry. Reasoning is clearly not your strong suite.
tpix, lets start with your Liberal VP who says if we don't pass the jobs bill rapes and murders are going to go up, or the enemy are at the gate or the right wants to see the black man hanging from a tree. Nice starting points for a reasoned discussion.
We need to go back to the days of hot bologna eggs and gravy three times a day, no work out rooms, no color t.v. and certainly no family visits, and I am not talking the phone kind of visits, no books except the bible, and make them get up at 5:00 in the morning and dig ditches all day and mabe they will think twice about doing wrong!
''no book but the bible''? boy you really want them to become killers huh?
You have to remember that this is Florida with our nutball Republican governor, Rick Scott who has declared war on state employees and county government. He has reduced staffing and cut wages for all programs run by the state, while reducing state funding for all of the counties to the point that they cannot provide adequate staffing for offices and facilities that they manage, including jails and prisons. This is the Republican governor whose company paid the largest Medicare fraud fine in the history of the United States. Don't believe me? Google "Rick Scott" "Medicare fraud" and see what you get. Another fine "pro-business" GOP politician.
i never said i'm for the murderers. NEVER. i believe they should be punished, definitely. but to call for their killing .. makes you a murderer too, right? or not? because the way i see it ... this blood lust that our society has .. is frightening.
and honey, you're sadly mistaken if you think prison is comfy. and HAHAHAHA @ last meal of their choice. jeez .. how does this HURT you?
millions of more dollars than it takes to house a prisoner for life, go to funding wars that we have no business being in. oh yea, and all that senseless killing - bet that's okay with you too.
Christine-3808006
Wow it is just amazing how people are so appt to stand behind the murder. How many people are they gonna kill why there are fleeing from the Law. Thank God that Florida has laws that people can protect themselves and shoot someone who breaks in there house, etc if they feel threatened. Unlike Illinois and other states that want to ban the citizens from having Guns. But wait its ok for Murders and criminals to have guns. Lets just put our heads in the sand and hope that we don't get shot. The reason that society has got so bad is that there is no quick justice system anymore. Back in the west and even long before that if you committed a crime you were brought back dead or alive didn't matter. And if you were brought back alive you were judged, sentanced and carried out within 24 hours. There was also public hangings that made people very aware that if they did the crime they payed the price. And not at the cost of tax payers to keep them in a comfy Prison with TV, Internet access, Last meals of there choice etc.
right ... but by calling for their murder .. you're really no better than them, right?
murder is wrong. but murdering someone to tell others that murdering is wrong .. is ridiculous. do as i say .... but not as i do.
Fly_Moe
raven - they are both murderers. It would be no loss to society if they were put out of their misery and save the tax payers some money. I'm for taking them out.
I reserve the rights to a video game based on their exploits.
lol!
you can call it 'no happy ending' oops, quess someone already got that
ME TOOOO. Video game Video game Video game. I demand it NOW!
The Adventures of Rondell and Taylor: Rampage in Vero Beach.
How about - Grand Theft Rondell
longleggedjones....that's freakin funny. i'd vote for it
Sentance "lifers" to death for escape. It's the only thing that will stop them from trying.
...and sentence you to spelling camp, followed by compassion-and-understanding-of-life-college, ya bilious mean-spirited blowhard. Move to China, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, and you can enjoy swift executions every week in the village square. Our sentences are way too long and usually out of proportion, certainty and speed of sentencing are more important and more effective than eventual 20-30-year and life terms. Anyway who can fault them for bustin' out, or wish them ill on that count alone?
Old mug shots,you would think the they would up the ante toat least 5,000.
Make it worthwhile to pick up the phone..sorry coverage.
Tommy Twochips is an idiot! Spoken like a convict. Stuff these animals in prisons, take everything away except a library, and let them rot until there sentence is up. No TV, no weights, no college! It is a punishment not the country club!
They're murderers. How much compassion did they show their victims? Cry me a @!$%#ing river. Like previous posters said, LET EM MOVE IN WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. Probably be a rude surprise when you get home.
So, what, maybe a couple months for a murderer? Two years? Ought to be rehabilitated by then no doubt./
@ Tommy - You need to be sent also... How are you gonna try and talk crap about someones spelling and make just as many mistakes in your own?
By any chance are his brothers named Genesis and Exodus?? And if they left their prison garb on the floor what are they wearing, tee hee...
whatever was in the dryer of the first landromat they found....or someone was waiting for them with a car and clothes
Taylor, 25, has closely cropped hair, according to police, not the dreadlocks as show in the photo above.
Apparently the prison system does not have a current photo of him ?
LOL. Maybe they will have to call in the police sketch artists...
They update the photos when they arrive at prison.
Besides the prison having easy ways to escape, they should update their inmates photo every year ( not that hard to do since they're in prison)...those photo's were taken years ago most likely.
Mike and several others
you must all be sitting at home with no work and you thought it would be fun to respond to this story. All you're done is reveal your ignorance. These guys were in a county jail- awaiting trial for the charges listed. They have no sentence as yet- this escape will be added to the charges if they're brought back alive. I worked in the Fl. system and i don't recall anyone escaping from Indian River before Scott took over. maybe Scott owns the bloodhounds.
I'm retired pal..what's your excuse for being here to make comments ???? Talk about ignorance!
Mike - That was an awesome response... just awesome! Thanks for the laugh today! :)
JIMC
Did Scott build the jail? Did he cause the inmates to perform the crimes for which they are indicted? You trolls crack me up. Prison breaks, sex between inmates and guards as well as smuggling in drugs and beatings are part of the Florida Criminal Justice System well before Rick Scott.
Besides, these two probably just wanted to break out so they could vote for obama.
I'm with you Mike. The sentence that JimC wrote is..." All you're done is reveal your ignorance." Guess what you just revealed Jim?
i don't recall anyone escaping from Indian River before Scott took over.
I dont remember anyone escaping from Indian River before Obama got elected, it must be his fault.
Taylor was already tried-he was due to be sentenced for first-degree. Reed had a criminal history from North Carolina and has been in jail awaiting trial in Florida.
How come the jail hasn't updated the photos? I would think that the initial photos would have been taken by the sheriff's department during processing for the initial arrest? Does the county release the inmates' files during processing through the system (sheriff's department to county) or is each facility responsible for the updates?
Thanks.
Mike
They update the photos when they arrive at prison. Since they were in county lock up their photos were current when they arrived.
@s2525m. I hear ya. Nuff said.
proudAMericNVET
I'm guessing you're just A dumbass redneck who couldn't get a job so you joined the service to phuck up that organization. I did 20 (for our side) and I saw plenty of you losers- no brain. no clue about life- I got out because i was tired of trying to make you clowns see the right and wrong of life.
Just throw them on a island and patrol the perimeter with boats save tax payers billions.
Hawaii?
You know like that movie no escape or escape from new york. Hell it would force them to take care of themselves while taking each other out and ho wants to be locked in a cage anyway its win win for everyone.
It was called Alcatraz and they shut it down in 1963. They shut down McNeil Island too. Besides, being surrounded by water is no deterrent to prisoners desperate to escape. I say stick the prison in the middle of a desert, 200 miles from the nearest water source. Let's see how many escapes pan out then...
skip the boat patrols, make the surrounding ocean a shark breeding and rehab zone. Drop some meat out of a helicopter now and then while the inmates are watching :)
inmissouri Yes that would save even more money good idea lol.
Leviticus? Goodness.
The other guy sounds so much less dangerous.
Right? Gotta wonder what kind of parent names their kid after a book full of 'abomination' decrees and brutal punishments. I'm imagining SUCH a happy childhood...
The authorities say they may have "outside help,". This is probably true considering the landscape. However a Florida Secure Facility requires more then some kind of "rod," to get out. The 24 hour closed circuit cameras, the auto alarms for unauthorized egress, etc. This is clearly an INSIDE JOB!
art
This is a county jail not a prison.
"The prison immediately went into lockdown and officials later found the inmates' red prison jumpsuits during a search of the jail"
I love it when the caretakers report the barndoor was locked immediately after the horses left.
Hopfully their new found freedom will not be wasted, and they can find peace outside the walls. It will be a hard transition, but best of luck.
New found freedom? You do realize that this was a county jail and not a prison. What this means is that these inmates weren't charged with thier crimes yet. So that "new found freedom" and "peace" you were hoping they find probably won't happen. If they felt the need to escape before being judged by thier peers it just shows how innocent these guys are.
I think you are 100% correct....
Reminds me of the show "jailbreak"...maybe we shouldn't allow inmates to watch TV ... it may give them not only ideas, but "how to" directions.
Those cuts in law enforcement sure are paying off, aren't they Governor?
So tired of hearing the "political" angle on this.
Who is the idiot that allowed vents/hvac ducts big enough for a person to fit into? Oh, and then have access to a maintenance hallway. Sounds like a major design flaw to me...not an issue of cut backs.
So you liberals who insist on making this about politics; "SAVE IT!!"
See what happens when you show inamtes Escape from Alcatraz?
With all the free photoshop software out there you would think authorities could post an updated look.
I know! Neck accessories are so passe. Maybe something seasonal, like a umber beret.
Biden was right when he said crime would increase when we keep slashing police budgets... :)
$1,000 reward; I'm not lifting my finger for that. $25k minimum or forget it...
Actually, the national crime rate has dropped substantially in the last three years.
They had to have inside help as well.
They're so dangerous that they're only offering a $1,000 reward? Good luck finding them.
Three 0's are missing; just a miss print!!!
Now that is a true statement....
$1000.00 reward is max crimestopper reward
who will snitch for only $1000...ds moni aint enough....
If I see them, I'll give them up for free! However, I won't turn down the thousand bucks, either.
People who could use the money... May not be alot but to some people theyd be extremely happy with that amount.
Go figure - minimum wage jobs for guards - works everytime! Night shift guards quit no-notice, and no one was there to replace them! {:-)}