we should ask Obama's boy Geithner....

Yes, like they helped to bring down Greece and the US.

stop the madening....no maybe we should ask Bush

Bush is an economic Einstein compared to the "orginizers" running the show in the administration

Harry Blank - a rather fitting name for you and your thought process.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

thanks!...

I am sick and tired of hearing About how bad Obama is and how bad Bush was, let me make that clear.

I personally think all these corrupted clowns in Washington need to be run out of town. Let me say why, when you have Obama and John Boehner smiling at one another playing a game of golf, at the same time the country is going down the toilet, that tells me one thing, We Are All Screwed!!!!, and it does not matter what affiliation or party you are with. The American people need to step up to the plate and send a strong message in 2012 that we will no longer put up with this misery that both parties are putting us through. Tom And Lyn

Saturday will be a big day as the occupiers protest against the immoral banking corporations. Here in Charlotte, NC, we see the two major banks (BoA and Wells Fagro) promote crimes against God and against nature. BoA goes so far to light their building with rainbow colors on gay holy days.

We welcome the occupiers future visits as they protest the upcoming Democratic convention here in Charlotte and the immoral banking corporations of our once beloved city!

God bless you occupiers!

I agree with Tom. One of the reasons the people are protesting is incomes have decreases for the majority of us. Here in the U.S. the lower 50% of the middle class and all of the poor peoples incomes have decreased 7% over the last 10 years. Tax cuts for the Rich raised their incomes a lot and paid for their relocating companies to other countries, out-sourcing jobs and placing machines in stores and other places to do what humans used to do. Just about everyones retirement and disabled incomes have gone down in Net take home pay. Just health insurance, medicare and dental insurance ate up all the cost of living increases we did get. None in the last two years.

Thanks William For making My Point Clear !!!! This is why we are all Screwed !!

By The Way Nice Post. Tom And Lyn

Hi, we protesters are from SEIU, AFL-CIO, and EU Unions and are here to help you.

Yeah, SEIU's agenda is Mr. Obama's agenda, so don't tell me to take down my tent or I will burn your vehicle or store. And if I get arrested, I will call the White House.

Not sure if this link will show up, but George Carlin called it over 2 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=FeLLR3LWtv4

If nothing is there go to youtube and search for George Carlin Bankers. Funny, but sad and true.

Sick Of The Situation

I looked at you video, and you are right My Friend, it is Funny But So So So True !!!

George Carlin Is The MAN !!

Tom And Lyn

Tom, I think George was a true visionary. Way ahead of his time. Look up some of his other stuff. This one is all chopped, but good stuff too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=SC_wjQtfhZQ

RIP George - you should have run for office.

This is bigger than ANY political party could ever hope to be! This movement is far too large to try to politicize into one party's agenda!

This is THE PEOPLE! The 99% that the world generally doesn't hear much about, or talk about, OR LISTEN TO! The regular people of the world! This movement goes all over the party lines around the world and right back home! Political party's are nothing compared to this!

This IS history in the making! Never before have the protests been so wide spread! The 99% of the population are letting their voices be heard and showing their strength in numbers. Governments had better listen because we will NOT be ignored any longer! WE THE PEOPLE ARE TAKING OUR GOVERNMENT BACK!

Many of you have tried to belittle the protesters and make them somehow feel guilty for exercising their right to protest corruption in our government and corporations.

Our own elected officials have tried to belittle us and have called us names. Eric Cantor calls the 99% an "angry mob" and then back pedals a few days later, after he sees how strong we are becoming! Obama says he sees why there are protests and yet he offers no new solutions. Mitt Romney described the protests as "dangerous" and "class warfare." Herman Cain, not only told those Occupy protesters without a job to blame themselves for being unemployed, but also suggested the protests were a conspiracy "planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration."

On Friday morning, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor joined the chorus of doubters, even sounding fearful about the protests. At the Values Voter Summit here in Washington, DC, Cantor said, "I for one am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying Wall Street and the other cities across the country. And believe it or not, some in this town have actually condoned the pitting of Americans against Americans."

THESE ARE ELECTED PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US! TALKING ABOUT THEIR FELLOWS AMERICANS LIKE THAT!! They have refused to do anything to solve the problems, THEY SEE NO PROBLEMS! They do not even see the problems in their own constituencies! They do NOT represent "The People" They have all been bought and paid for by the corporations and are waiting to see who gets the nod to be shipped to Washington D.C.

They see us and yet they still do not listen! WE NEED TO GET LOUDER I GUESS!

Many have stooped to childish name calling and idle threats against the protesters, they have tried putting false words out, saying they were official documents from the Occupy Wall Street protest, trying to convince everyone we were not organized and they said we were wasting our time because protests don't work, etc. etc., and yet, we all not only persisted, in spite of your constant badgering, lying and false rumors, but, now our numbers are proving that we are doing the right things!

No sane person can deny what the 99% have seen with their own eyes and experienced in our own lives! Every person that works to earn a living (the 99%) will benefit from the protesters efforts!

951 cities to date and this is only since Sept 17th.! Our message WILL be heard! This is snowballing faster than even I could imagine. This will continue to grow as time passes too! Plans have been made into next year for the protests and yes it will be a long cold winter for everyone, but we will not be defeated due to some weather or anything else!

Soon the police and governments will resort to violence to try to stop the protests, it has already started in a few cities. Why are they afraid of the people? WHY ARE THEY AFRAID OF HAVING THE PEOPLE ORGANIZE?

This proves that they are trying to stop our message from getting out. This proves that they are afraid that their corruption will be plainly exposed to the world!

The corrupt governments and corporations are very afraid that THE PEOPLE are organizing and making their own agenda. They are afraid that the corporatism will be changed back to capitalism. They are afraid that the billions they have invested in elections around the world have been wasted! THEY ARE AFRAID OF BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS OF THE PAST! They are afraid that the people will demand justice! They are afraid because they know that they cannot stop us!

Their fears are justified.

They have much to loose and 99% of the people are coming looking for them! We the people are looking for justice with a Vengence! You all should have expected this!

We told you this was coming, Why didn't you listen to the warnings?

CAN YOU HEAR US YET?

Sammy Sezso

Let Me Just Say, I Could Not Have said It Better Myself, You My Friend are 100% On Target !!

Tom And Lyn

I wrote This Poem back In 2009, So I thought it was appropriate to post it here.

Get Out And Vote!

Are you tired of seeing our wallets empty at the end of the day.

Are you tired of seeing our greedy politicians sneak off with your pay.

Are you tired of seeing our money wasted on things that are fake.

Are you tired of seeing our money picked over like it was theirs to take.

Are you tired of seeing you owe more on your mortgage then your house is worth,

Are you tired of seeing you cant fine a job to keep up with your turf.

Get out your vote!

Get up and vote !

It’s no joke!

Get out and vote!

You know all it takes is for all of us to come together to take a stand,

for it’s "We The People" who have the upper hand.

So don’t just set there like a dead duck with empty pockets and bad luck,

get out your vote so we all can make a buck.

Are you tired of seeing were our country is headed.

Are you tired of seeing our children’s future indebted.

Are you tired of seeing everything you work hard for go up in smoke.
Are you tired of seeing our politicians spend our money like it’s some big joke.

Are you tired of seeing our politicians argue and keeping score,

when all " We The people" have to do is show them the door.

Get out your vote!

Get up and vote !

It’s no joke!

Get out and vote!

You know all it takes is for all of us to come together to take a stand,

for it’s "We The People" who have the upper hand.

So just remember next November when we all have our politicians in our hand,

That it’s " We The People" who will draw a big line in the sand.

Get out your vote!

Get up and vote !

It’s no joke!

Get out and vote!

Written By : Tom And Lyn Sparks Nevada

Sammy; Well put and right on. I am 79 and I am delighted to see our young people stand up. I will give all support that I can. Hopefully you are right and this cannot be contained. People are waking up to how banking and a corrupt corporate system is raping them.

God bless our protesters and let's back them up with millions in the streets. Both parties are obviously owned and they will become irrelevant if they continue to ignore our people.

Thank you for a great post.

Tom-898028,

Thank for the words of kindness.

The poem is great too every word is true! We'll have to keep it posted as the elections get closer!

WE are the 99%!

Thanks Sammy

Back in 2009 I was very angry that I could not find a job and many other things, so I put down what I was feeling on paper, and that Poem was it. Thanks again

Tom And Lyn

Frank Morton-2536216,

I also want to thank you for your words of kindness and support. It is great to know that the older Americans are supporting this too! We value your approval and support!

We are certain that we are doing the right thing in confronting the corruption in our government and corporations head on, and exposing it to the world for everyone to inspect and pick apart, it IS driving them crazy! They are trying to escalate the violence so that they can simply throw the protesters in jail, but we will not fall for that!

I think this is going to continue to grow as time goes on. There are too many good people involved in the protests around America and the world that will not allow The will of the people to be recognized. They might think they can control us, but they have no idea what they are up against! WE ARE THE 99%, please keep us in your prayers!

Governments should fear the people, the people should never fear their government!

Sammy

It’s amazing how someone who has been dead for 183 years could have such great insight and wisdom. It’s a shame any government has not taken his words to heart.

A Good Quote

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

"Every generation needs a new revolution." – Thomas Jefferson

This is why I am taking A Stand , And Why We Are In The Trouble we are in today, To Everyone, read your history, if you do then you will be wise.

Tom And Lyn

wow how long before the shooting starts? you know if people would just stop buy the products these guy are sell that would hurt them more then these protest. I want to know what happens when these big companies who own the the cell phone companies, the power companies, the oil companies , and so on shut down? how long before people start killing each other.

cherrytom

wow how long before the shooting starts?...

...how long before people start killing each other.

Ask the police, they are the ones that have the guns!

The protesters in America have been peaceful, so far.

Dude, not everyone speaks Italian.

Ciao amico di tutto il laghetto!
Chiedo scusa Brent-3019177
Non è molto educato!

Benvenuti a newsvine.

Actually, I have a rudimetary understanding of Italian, but if you ahd done it in German or Spanish, I would have understood more, so let's not knock my education.

I smell garlic...

You sound schizophrenic. In your first sentence you bad mouth the young people (who cares what part of the world) for doing something and then speak in favor of the movement.

BTW your words also seem to embellish things a bit. Something conspiracy freaks would enjoy.

Greg you obviously have a reading comprehension problem. Being behind a movement but not condoning what these youth did in Milan is not schizophrenic it is using good judgement. In addition, being aware that people may be sent in to hijack or discredit a movement is also common sense and if you study the beginnings of past revolutions this strategy of discrediting has been used many times. If I were to apply your logic then if I were to vote for a particular party then I should get behind whatever they do whether I agree with it or not. That is nothing short of slavery to a party regardless of what it does. With regards to your conspiracy theorist jab really all you have to do is look at history and you will see how my warnings are not only possible scenarios but realistic in that we should be on our guard. People like you always ignore all the warnings and signs and then when things fall apart your the first to resort to violent behavior in the defense of your master. Get off you patriarchal butt and join other Americans trying to clean up America.

Don't see anywhere in my statements you could derive anything related to "sticking to a party regardless of my beliefs". WTF. The way you worded it is how I understood it. Your remarks haven't change my opinon.

No people of my generation (Enron president for example) decided that money is the most important thing regardless of who it affects. I don't support these crooked fks. I think we need to kick a$$ on getting more of these aholes in jail.

Well Greg you need to work then on your analysis methods. You label me a schizophrenic because I see problems with the Milan protesters methods of protest and caution people as to the backlash that could come from such behavior and all you can do is isolate a small part of my remarks and take them out of context and think you have arrived at a logical debate. There are four corner stones of the rational model so if you study that first and then you won't need to resort to lame stereotypes and name calling remarks to make yourself feel like a man.

I agree with Greg. Your first post did sound schizophrenic, although your second seemed to spell out what you meant to say more clearly. And I don't see that it's Greg doing the name calling.

You don't see Greg using profanity or labeling someone as schizophrenic as inappropriate or as name calling? Well I can imagine how your analytic skills work and I was clear in my first post but people looking to attack a poster usually don't look at what people are writing but what they want to see. Both of you could go back to school and get a better education. You could start by looking up what schizophrenia means. Oh and by better education I mean going into the stacks and attaining analytic skills gained from in depth studies.. Most American schools today have been using a cheap rote method of learning and from both your remarks it looks like the only type of analysis you can use is one that isolates takes out of context and then tries to insult .
Go cut your teeth on someone else.

Good grief, what is wrong with you? First you insult Greg's reading comprehension skills, then his manhood, and now me because I agree with his assessment of your first post. If two people misinterpreted your original intent, don't you think it more appropriate to examine your own prose instead of assuming we're both wrong?

But no, you'd rather call me uneducated and apparently too shallow to understand your great words. Heaven forbid you even consider any alternative explanation for our misunderstanding. Clearly it's all our fault.

Good grief Greg can call someone schizophrenic advocate kicking a__— (Profanity and Violence) use symbols like WTF and you think something is wrong with me because you can't understand a reasonable assessment of of the potential problems of using violence in Milan's youth protests? Like I said go cut your teeth elsewhere you both need to grow up and learn to be more polite if you wish your feelings to be handled with kid gloves. I have not indulged in name calling or labeling. I have not used profanity. I have questioned your analytic skills and told you to educate yourself. I have identified a sad patriarchal strategy of isolating taking out of context and then humiliating that person and in effect turned it back on the original perpetrator. Do you like it? Given your response I would say you do not so I would suggest you stop using this strategy and be more respectful if you wish to be respected.

Oh and one more thing Greg has a very nasty habit of using ugly stereotypes to label people. This is not the first time he has resorted to this strategy. If you jump on that band wagon then your prose will be the one that is shallow and without value.

This is pointless. I have no intention of feeding your superiority complex, so go ahead and write an essay about how Greg and I have wronged you. If nothing else, it'll at least make you feel better.

As for Greg, I know nothing of him. I simply agreed with his assessment of your initial post.

LOL in the future lets avoid each other.

The funny part is I think you people all agree with each other.

The Real Chris This started with Greg's ugly stereotyping and quite frankly the vine has way too much of this ugly strategy as well as the use of profanity on it. This is something that we need less of and more thoughtful and respectful discourse is needed. I really don't enjoy trying to teach these boys a lesson in manners but good grief as long as they think they can act this way and get away with it they will get worse. I have seen the most appalling behaviors and there are rules on the vine about profanity etc. We may all want to support the protesters but some of us are thinking with our rational minds and will not use this movement to dump our hostility on other people.

Wats wrong with people getting a little emotional about being raped and finall conimg to gather to resist. I am 79 and joyful about this uprising. I am joining those in my city And if some one attacks Goldman Sachs in any way the deserve it. The have done more damage than all terrorist combined. It's time they had something to fear.

We have millions that are overworked and under paid. Mahy of them are supressed by fear and afraid to express their feelings and frustrations. I hope these protes grow so large that the pigs become afraid. They really want change otherwise.

When the CEO of Disney made 600 million in salary and God knows what in bonuses he had children in Hiti working for 12 cents an hour. I hope I live to see the day when him and all his kind are afraid.

Big and worthwile change is never easy. Bring it on! God bless those who have the courage and values to stand agains evil.

Sorry for the errors. I am a one finger typist and rhe edit didn't work.

fight for freedom-2341533 I understood your post perfectly!

No dejes que los bastardos te desanime! (words to live by!)

"'The establishment is invincible.' 'Protesting is useless.' 'You'll never change anything.' If everyone in the world believed that, then every single country in the world would still be kept in poverty by a ruling monarchy. That's a fact." -Anonymous

Frankwhile I respect your sentiments I am concerned that at this stage of the movement these violent protests are playing into the hands of greedy guts global rulers. I want justice for the oppressed people of the world but I think going up against the military is a bad idea at this point. The movement needs to grow until the majority of of people in our country are participating rather than a small minority. I think strategy is necessary if the movement is not crushed the way the peace movement was suppressed and finally stopped during the sixties and seventies. The movement then did bring about some positive change but not a lasting change. This movement has the potential to have a lasting change.

sammy your analogy is incorrect. You try to reduce my argument for caution to a position of hopelessness and that shows an emotional response that lacks maturity. Now is not the time for emotion but clear rational thinking and smart strategies to make this movement bring about positive lasting change.

fight for freedom-2341533, where did I do that?

All I said was that I understood what you had posted at the top of the thread, and I agree with you! The movement MUST remain peaceful!

Hopefully our governments do not let this get out of hand and act quickly to make the changes needed.

The movement will NOT be ignored though! No telling what will happen if the governments start tormenting them or trying to stop them by force! This isn't just going to fade away into the sunset when the next big news story comes around! We, the 99%, will not allow that to happen!

So far all of the violence has come from the police and there have been very few stories come out that blame the protester for initiating any violence. At least in America anyway! The other countries could very well turn violent due to their governments and the use of force against the crowds. The situation is different in every country!

It won't be pretty for anyone if the violence comes to America! Our government needs to definately worry about that!

Sammy I understand your mindset now and am glad you made your position clear I reread you post just to make sure but no where does it say that you agreed with me.. I think if clear heads prevail and a smart strategy is employed that hope indeed could spread this movement to include the the vast majority of Americans. I think it is time for this movement to begin organizing the movement to include open debates with the goal of developing a legitimate third party with clear guidelines that make their candidates legally responsible to remain true to platform agendas. People identify with power figures either willingly or through intimidation. True loyalty though is gained through respect and trust. Until the movement has a third party working for it that is seen by most Americans as viable then any changes will be small and easily reversed.

fight for freedom-2341533 That will all come in due time.

This movement is still very young and will progress as it grows.

your man Obama has Goldman Sachs people in his cabinet and inner circle...did get just the "good ones"? interesting

Harry, Have you nothing but blank comments to contribute?

no , I have nothing but blank comments to contribute

are you saying Obama doesn't have any Goldman Sachs dorks in his admin?

interesting

Harry Blank

your man Obama has Goldman Sachs people in his cabinet and inner circle...did get just the "good ones"? interesting

YOUR man Obama??? Who says he's my man?

Are you trying to trivialize this movement down to a single political party?

Really, Goldman Sachs is one of the biggest scum organizations in the world. They have been manipulating the commodities market and driving up the price of gas and food on hurting people. There is nothing they want do and they use both parties.

Down with Goldman Sachs and all like them.

I agree. I want to see these guys on trial for theft and lose everything they have stolen to the point that they just want to commit suicide. Think about how many people have lost their jobs, homes and retirement because of all this. At the very least I want those Goldman Sachs idiots to feel that kind of stress and pain. I just hope the protesters don't roll over and take some deal that the government/financial industry never makes good on. If it comes to that I want to see blood in the street. no joke

sammy , you are right, although most these bafoons are purely of the liberal ilk with a marxist twist , they may not ALL be followers of socialism and anarchy , some may very well be followers of the cult of stupidity , thanks for bringing that up

oh , and since you brought it , yes , they and their "movement" are very trivial , in fact they remind me of a "movement" that usually gets flushed

Matt , better lump your man Obama in there with them , after all they are pulling his strings and "advising" him at every turn , pretty cool though that they must have "trapped" a liberal/socialist in their snare of criminality

Harry Blank

sammy , you are right,

Now if you have any sense at all you would have stopped there instead of continuing your rant, proving to everyone what type of person you are! Your constant name calling is showing your juvenile thinking about your fellow man. It also shows your elementary reasoning skills and vocabulary.

Nobody has ever heard of your "cult of stupidity" that you speak of. You must be their PR person!

Do you think that anyone is being hurt beside you, and your reputation, by your hanging labels on everyone? You know who does that kind of stuff here on Newsvine don't you? TROLLS DO! ...and look at that, YOU are a new reg.! LMAO you might as well go get yet another newsvine account now!

So it finally comes out! ...and the shoe fits you perfectly too!

What do you hope to accomplish by coming on every thread on Newsvine and trying to belittle this movement and twist it into something that clearly is not? If you're craving attention that much you should get a dog! NO on second thought DO NOT GET A DOG! (you'll probably just abuse it)

describing a persons obvious political and personal philosophy and mantra is name calling?...interesting

have you read your man Obama's books?...enlightening read , try it

I laid some facts at your feet about the Prez and his advisors and cabinet members and you throw out the tired and played "troll" retort?...who is doing the name calling? ...funny man

enlighten usbecause the fleabaggers sure haven't...what is their "movement" about , specifically , how can I get with it if I don't know what it is? , just jumping on board would tend to make one seem like a , well , leming....shoe meet other foot

Harry Blank

...who is doing the name calling?

the fleabaggers sure haven't

#5.10 - Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:03 PM CDT

bafoons

followers of socialism and anarchy

followers of the cult of stupidity

#5.7 - Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:10 PM CDT

Goldman Sachs dorks

#5.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:10 PM CDT

Trolls, as shown above, call people names. Demonstrated right here on Newsvine by Harry blank! Trolls also often suffer from foot in mouth disease as in this case with Harry Blank. Foot plainly stuck in mouth.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll&defid=4047134

No more food from me Harry!

What will you call me because I deprived you of your food?! LOL!

Don't bother....... I'm done here.

don't you know Super Sammy that refering to those "IN" the topic article or those of the opposing party is NOT an issue here on newsvine , as evidenced by the multitude of posts doing it (especially if you are a lib and talking about any consrvative) , since non of my posts were directed at YOU as per the COH , you really don't have much of a leg to stand on

thanks for allowing me to help you understand what has been a carefully adopted method here on Newsvine

but back to the topic , just because you went to an "occupy" smellout doesn't mean that you get to take all posts that you don't like as personal attacks against YOU , what is your/their message ? , what is your point ? , what do you propose to change and how do you propose to change it? , what will be the results of said change and how have you quantified it? , how do you intend to measure that "change"? , what will be the effects of your requested changes? , until you/they can answer at least a minimum of questions in some coherent and cohesive manner it is just a bunch of crybaby ner-do wells thinking they can perpetuate their "something for nothing" mantra

No. Perhaps in your narrow world-view, that's what you choose to see. Try again. They are protesting a broken, corrupt system that has morphed into a distorted shadow of what was once a healthy capitalist system.

You're the only one to said that. I don't believe the young people are. Do you really think they would get any support if they did? On second thought I don't care to hear your response. Read what Steel toed Boot said above. I think he summed it up nicely.

If they were protesting the system then they would be attacking both democrats and republicans. But instead the Democrats are trying to push this into partisanship battle. Greed affects Democrats, Republicans, Independents, etc... You'll get more respect from me if you make sure you displace your anger equally. Until then you're just more brainwashed sheep doing the master's bidding. Six out of the top 10 richest politicians are Democrats. Obama administration was responsible for TARP bailouts. But since Bill Clinton's "House for Every American" policy caused the housing/mortgage Obama was obliged to make sure all the banks got their money with little to no oversight.

Yesterday I read a great article on how to beat Wall street and show the world.

Build the next great thing and show them all, but wait the protestors can't then they would have to give up on somebody else supporting them.

No, its more like stop the greedy 1% from screwing the rest of us, 99%

Sure ed. Every protester should be at home building the better mouse trap so they can all become rich.

Since your going to stereotype every single protester as a lazy bum living off of handouts, that means we can throw some stereotypes your way too, correct?

When you can have a thought that is your own and not something you heard on TV you may be taken seriously. Then again, your mind is made up not matter what the truth is, correct?

stop the madening, this isn't about Obama. The fact that it has become a global movement should tell you that. OWS isn't seeking any political affiliation, some Dems happen to agree with the protestors. Decry the unions all you want, but they helped build this nation into the greatness it was. Without them the huge middle-class we once had would not have happened. This movemnet is about the 1% owning most of the world and the politicians, so the 99% get little to no say in anything that happens across the globe. IF you want soome ideas that the OWS needs to be for, I'll provide you with that: http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/679920/matt_taibbi%3A_5_things_wall_street_protesters_should_demand_of_the_1/#paragraph3

If the protestors across the globe can use these reasons as their demands, then they can make the change we need, since no politician in America now will do it, the people have to.

The Europeans are going to protest because austerity measures are heading their way and they are getting started early and also so they can quit before it gets cold and snowy out

Deb, if you read the article, this goes beyond just Europe, New Zealanders are also getting involved (part of Australian continent), and Asia is also trying to get into it.

"We'd might like to have jobs" is more like it. Or "We might like you to be prosecuted for stealing our savings and destroying our dreams." Or "Stop the entire US government from becoming even more of a big slimy whorehouse."

P. S. What the hell is "madening?"

Melissa: Rock on, you have it exactly right.

"Stop the entire US government from becoming even more of a big slimy whorehouse."

ha...good one , that will happen in 2012 , when the lib stranglehold is released , isn't it cool?

As a former finance profession­al, I tell you YES, the system is predatory, rigged against the middle and working classes, and the time is now to collapse it.

As much as I agree with your sentiment, I can't go along with collapsing it. Replacing it yes. There are too many people that are vulnerable to a collapse and I am not referring to any of those the system is rigged to favor. They can go straight to hell for all I care. It is the retirees, college savings, and those nearing retirement that I am talking about. Something has to be done to protect these average people before it is brought down. Kind of like completing the new factory before shuttering and demolishing the old one.

Seems as though the "Quickening" is apon us.

Watched it as curiosity a few months ago, printed out the transcript last week, re-read it because of what is happening.

Scary, very scary.

How do you collapse a bank if everyone on the street has no money in the bank to withdrawl?

Strong ARMED ROBBERY?

so what are we to do? introduce the NEW WORLD ORDER dollar?.. over my dead body!

Over my dead body.

How is it rigged? I decided I wanted to better and I am by running my own business and working full time and I love it. I can make all I want and just have to do something other than sit on my butt and complain.

You sound like another loser looking to blame someone else for their greed and stupidity.

Anyone hold a knife to your throth and force you to borrow?

Walk away and go live in a cardboard box.

"As a former finance profession­al"

haha, drivle , prove it! , more like a Soros shill , keep up the exellent posts!

I wish it were that easy. If I were to just walk away from my student loans then my credit would be shot, they would garnish my wages, I could not get a loan for anything, and I could not get a job because most check your credit these days. I think we should simply has a mass run of people closing their accounts on all the major banks to begin with. I'm so sad that I had to become an adult during these days. You will soon see a rise in domestic terrorism I fear as people have had enough.

stop the madening if you really payed attention you would see that the protesters did not endorse democrats or republicans. they dont agree with either group. what they say is that both groups are in corporations pockets. that big money and lobbying needs to get out of govt.

I would say your assessment is accurate Eric and lets hope and work toward the direction staying away from the lefties and righties as nothing but a bickering dead end will be found there.

You know your comments are starting to piss off important people when MSNBC starts making it impossible to post a comment. But my question is this; who are these cops who are so quick to beat on a protester carrying an American flag? Here is a wake up America's finest, if you are willing to arrest a peaceful protester you are not a cop you are a PIG!!! And history will remember your children the same way.

I also worked in the financial industry, and I've tried to explain to people how the economy more than a decade ago allowed people to afford the items they purchased, homes, cars etc.

Most people at the time didn't see or know the financial disasters to come were imminent. They didn't know they'd be out of work or in lesser paying jobs for months, even a year or two at a time.

Worse, they didn't foresee the fact that so many jobs now require BAs, MBAs, and the like to acquire them, jobs that were considered on the job training twenty years ago, or apprenticeships are now four year degrees.

That's rigged too against the middle and working class.

It's all set up to squeeze as much for as little as possible out of consumers and workers. People do need to wake up to that, and if so many people from wealthy backgrounds and financial jobs are saying it... It's a genuine problem.

Tht's the difference between capitalism and feudalism...evolution vs revolution...and also the reason why the Europeans are drifting aimlessly through the sea of imbecility.

@Adam Smith

TOUCHE'

for the libs among us , that is French , which is in fact European ergo pertinent to the topic

As if we are better off as adults, trying to mend the world to our whims. Destroying and rebuilding seems to be our mantra these days. I would rather fix our world before talking about Europe or Africa or developing nations.

I would consider our system a rigged capitalism not capitalism in its purest sense.

And stop branding people as libs, dems, repubs if they disagree with your view point, you royal dumps.

@Bluelake

The top 6 financial institutions in the US do not "control" 65% of GDP. Their ASSETS are equal to about 60% though. That's not really saying much... Maybe that is what you meant to say. I'm not going to do all the math, but collectively they probably MAKE UP about 3% of GDP.

mycorner, just for clarification, did you mean you would rather fix our coutry (you said world) before talking about Europe (as Europe is part of this world)? And FYI, pure capitalism will not work for the same reason true communism will not work (at least as humanity is now), because we have no way of reigning in on human greed.

I am willing, and with my Master's I am working retail (part-time) at a bit over minimum, because that is what there is...

Try again.

I guess Barney Franks Idea that forcing banks to make loans for low income families wasn't such a good idea after all.

I wonder if God has a lighting bolt with ole Barneys name on it. If it happened I wouldn't bat an eye. That POS LIED and Maxine waters LIED in 2003 when this could have been stopped. But the pack mentality of NO NOT US in DC hid the truth to keep power.

May they all rot in hell.

Well said, Jai you. 加油 refuel

a world wide protest...hahahaha

You going to set yourself on fire eventually?

Gandhi didn't have to "set himself on fire" in order to accomplish his goals, and bring down the powers that be.

Unrelenting civil disobedience alone was more than sufficient.

don' worry it is going to get cold soon and the children will go back to their video games and mommy /daddy

Class warfare latent affects. I wonder if Nancy Pelosi is still scared someone is going to get killed?

3rd,

i wonder if Pelosi is worried that one of these people will ask for her wealth?

Every time she streches whats left of the skin on her face to open her pie hole it's a calculated lie.

Rather funny dems hate, loath, mostly ENVY the rich republican and give a pass to this rich witch and her dem ilk.

Disgusting bunch of do nothings but take take take.

Protests probably would not have happened if there were jobs to be had that would pay the bills.

And, the ecomony would not be in a mess if there were jobs in the United States (and elsewhere). Thus, there would be taxes going into the treasury.

3rd: Do you really think all the protesters are liberal Democrats.

3rdpartyadvocate, you're a fraud. it's becomming all too common that republicans say they're for a "3rd party" or that they're not republicans, but all they do is spout republican talking points and criticize dems. kentucky fried chicken can call it self KFC but it's still fried..... and horrible for us like all your tired ideas. tool.

and the funny thing it is our president started the hate, i have a friend that heard things from a government worker two years ago and so far everything has come true, jobless, moneyless, can't work, insurance going sky high, banks taking away your homes, all because this piece of crap in the whitehouse. scary how all this is setting up, all this man said is watch your belongings and buy guns to protect yourself. people are getting hungry and they will start to help themselves. what a shame what our government can become with an @!$%# running things, and he thinks he is getting in office again, how sick people are.

If there is 9% unemployment would that not mean that 91% are employed?? There are several countries in Europe that have 24% unemployment. I think this administration is fanning the flames in hopes that it will help the incompetent people get reelected. Class warfare is very effective to make people forget about what is really going on.

Deb we do not have 9% unemployment. Those numbers are based on those on unemployment. Try closer to 20-25%. There are millions no longer on unemployment or who were fired for cause. Those people are unaccounted for in their "9%".

The ruling class in general are all guily of stealing from the punlic. Obama is on par with Marcos for plundering the public tresuary for his cronies. These NYC idiots want him reelected. They are useful idiots for the left wing. They cry about tuition but no march on the universities and the bloated administration there.. They march on rich businessmen but leave George Soros alone? Bunch of moochers and weak minded , propaganda filled lazy scum looking for excuses for their failure. Most failures need look no farther than the mirror for their enemy

drdarby17,

Bunch of moochers and weak minded , propaganda filled lazy scum looking for excuses for their failure.

You are very uninformed! How do you explain all of the protests in every city, all over the world in support of the Occupy Wall Street protest? What, the whole world is "useful idiots"?

This is not something that can be trivialized to a political level. Obama is not our chosen leader, WE have NO need, want or desire to be associated with any political party.

How foolish are you to be calling your fellow Americans names? What makes you so much better than 99% of the world!

All you did was to show us your 4th grade reasoning skills and intelligence level. It also says much for the way you feel about your fellow Americans! You are showing Hatred, Greed and fear!

"You got yours, hell with them", right? Keep in mind that there are many young college graduates that were born and raised into this that didn't have a say until now!

They're out of school and have all kinds of debt because of getting that education, that corporations require, only to find no jobs. Their parents have lost most of what they had saved towards retirement. If the parents still owe on their home, they are probably 2 paychecks away from having their home foreclosed on.

They are searching for work, but there is nobody hiring them. They have the education and degree to prove it, but there are no available positions.

Doesn't bother you though! That's because YOU think YOU are so much better than everyone else! You got yours! What you haven't realized yet though is that your way of thinking is the root of the problems!

You are correct about the mirror though, go have a look!

We need to be the change we wish to see in the world.

How long until world wide marshall law?

12-21-12

Bob, pretty good answer. Just as good as any 3rd party could come up with.

3rdparty - I suppose it is martial law not marshall law. First the wise crack about Gandhi and now this. I am losing faith in you man along with our two other parties!

@mycorner

I think you are wrong , if I am not mistaken a guy named Hank Marshall came up with that law

Harry, feel free to use a dictionary. mycorner was correct. That is how it is spelled.

Sorry Harry it "martial" law.

that was a "play" on words including a little sarcasm...one would have thought that the "more highly educated" liberals would have been able to grasp that...isn't it cool?!

I am not a liberal tyvm

It all depends on what makes you happy. I have more than any money can buy.

What I cherish money can't buy.

All these people know is material. And they need lots of money to have it.

Because you lived within your means perhaps?

living in our means is the best way to live, i think alot of people that bought homes and lost them cuz they wanted more and couldn't afford them. borrow aganst your home is a terrible thing when you can't afford to pay it back, all sounds so easy until you get laid off work.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Probably not.

Yes, you probably are.

my guess is that you are over 50 (probably over 60). the dream won't be a reality for the rest of us

I lived within my means, I owe nothing to credit cards, mortgages or other debt. I am a minimalist. I don't need lots of things to make me happy and still I am affected by the crisis.

Don't worry fellas. It will come to you or people you love probably sooner rather than later.

Good post people need to see this. Post this information again so that as many people see it as possible. take care. Oh you may wish to provide a more reader friendly explanation of the key points some of the readers will not understand and move on without understanding what this means.

You can bet that the "Give us money!" slogan was actually put there by somebody who was either rich, or a banker - or by somebody who supports such people, just like you do - and it was done simply to make the protestors look bad.

Isn't that the way TPTB have always worked? Divide and conquer, then subjugate and brutalize!

i have not seen give us money in any of the demands. i have seen take the money away from politicians who get bribed from lobbyists and campaign donations.

If bribery is proven tell obammy to jail them!

Saturday will be a big day as the occupiers protest against the immoral banking corporations. Here in Charlotte, NC, we see the two major banks (BoA and Wells Fagro) promote crimes against God and against nature. BoA goes so far to light their building with rainbow colors on gay holy days.

We welcome the occupiers future visits as they protest the upcoming Democratic convention here in Charlotte and the immoral banking corporations of our once beloved city!

God bless you occupiers!

@ Ken Goldman

As an American soldier, I've always found it disgustingly unpatriotic when I hear people make up childish names for our elected President, be he a Republican or a Democrat.

For better or worse, we, the People, elect them, and when you fail to respect the office itself, no matter who's in it, you disrespect the entire nation -- YOUR nation (for better or worse.) By mocking our leaders in such juvenile ways you truly mock us all, EVERY American, and yourself, in the eyes of the rest of the world. You reduce us all to mere laughing stock, for our choices.

Grow up and learn to discuss issues (and people) on their merits, or take your name-calling to the playground, where it belongs. In the military we're taught to respect the rank, if not the person wearing it, and there is some serious wisdom in and behind that, I think. Learn something from it, if you can.

Tanberet -- As you can see, good luck with that one. You might as well be telling your dog how to work the Tivo.

I've been bringing it up too, libs change the subject! OBAMMY HAS THEM ON ANOTHER AGENDA DISTRACT DISTRACT