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"You do have my sympathies," Harle said. "You have my apologies. ... We do not have a perfect system of justice, but we have the best system of justice in the world."
This country was built and still lives on nothing but hype. To say this to someone who has spent 25 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit proves it. Keep on drinking the Kool-Aid judge, while doing nothing to fix the problems.
Enjoy your new found freedom. Sue the crap out of the State and get some financial relief. perry, take a real hard look in the mirror before you kill another one.
"His attorneys say prosecutors and investigators kept evidence from the defense that would have helped acquit him at trial."
This is outright criminal, and Morton should press civil charges against anyone involved in suppressing the evidence that wouldve exonerated him.
Welcome to bass ackwards Texas, where you're executed before proven innocent. And Perry appointed and supported John Bradley? I don't see how people can continue to support Perry and his very poor decisions and croneyism.
Public officials, DA's, police, etc. need to start being held accountable. You can't give back years of someone's life or even their executed lives. So, these yahoos, who rush these cases to trial with twisted facts and evidence, just so they can get notches on their belt, is outright criminal.
America always says it has the best in the world. Why then does America have slow internet, slow passenger trains, no universal health care, no Autobahns, not on the metric system, the death penalty, so forth. America has plenty of room for improvement.
cornmeal, that's easy. It's called Republicans, who don't believe in government funding for public programs. They want the government to fund private businesses, and give tax breaks and subsidies that never get paid back.
I cannot sympathize enough with this poor gentleman and his family, let alone those executed "convicts" who didn't commit the crimes of which they were accused. But I also sympathize with those "sentenced" to four terms of Perry as Governor....except that in the case of Perry being elected and reelected, the voters ARE the jury, and are apparently deserving of what they got.
Ok SO IF they withheld evidence, then go after the detectives who did it.
The problem I have with most of the bleeding hearts here. You do not want to attack the system that put him in jail, you want to attack specific political figures who are on the other side of the spectrum of what you believe in. At the time of his conviction, with all the evidence that was shown to the Jury, a jury of his peers found him guilty. That is the way the system works. That is how it was designed to work. This is not a Republican vs Democrat thing, this is not a Rick Perry thing ( note to you political junkies, the Gvner does not get involved here )
Is our legal system perfect, no it is not nothing is perfect. I do agree with the Judge that it is the best system in the world.
"You do have my sympathies," Harle said. "You have my apologies. ... We do not have a perfect system of justice, but we have the best system of justice in the world."
Others have noted this quote already. The best system of justice in the world doesn't execute human beings -- as is done in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, China, No. Korea-- we keep great company -- don't we?
For those here who think goverment should get out of the way and can't do anything right -- why would you think that does not include death penalty convictions?
When Perry was asked about ever having lost a night's sleep over the death penalty he indicated --no. How can anyone -- any human being not have second thoughts and sleepless nights. Such a Christian.
What do we call a wrongful execution? Is it a crime? Murder, manslaughter, just oops-- so sorry, when the state takes someones life?
Regarding the justice system I surelly want to stay away from Muslim and communist countries, Italy and Texas.
As a Christian, I would answer the same exact way Perry did. Perry did not find the guy guilty. Our Justice System did. Perry did not order the death penality, the justice system did. Perry has Little to Nothing to do with the actual death penality. Why should he lose a nights sleep? Because he is Gvner and can postpone or stay the execution?
This is not a Rick Perry thing, stop trying to make it into one. This is about or judical system.
Jeremy-960164 Yes, because he is the governor and can postpone or stay the execution of WRONGFULLY CONVICTED PEOPLE, as is often proved with Texan sentences.
Like a lot of people, the judge probably thinks that the "world" ends at the borders of Canada and Mexico. In that case, we do have the best justice in the world.
Jeremy
Look for your "I've got my head up Perrys butt tshirt" to be sent out later this p.m.
Bdune,
I am from Texas, and have NEVER Voted for Perry. WILL not vote for him if he gets the Republican nod. HE has done some things that I do not agree with at all, but please tell me how Perry is supposed to be involved in this case at all? It was a life in prison case, NOT a D.P case where the Gvner can stop something.
Romillio,
1st of all, NOT A D.P. case.. it was life in prision.
How exactly is Perry supposed to know if they are wrongly convicted? Does he, or you have some magic 8 ball to look at? The Court finds them guilty. They fail in their appeals process and are finally put to death, but like I said to dune..
This is just one example of what the American people can expect from a public official who does not have faith in science and proven fact.
Demagoguery at it's finest...
not to mention ripping the toddler away from the only parent he had left. that poor kid was traumatized first by the horror of his mother's murder and then by the criminal justice system.
In part, comments here question Gov Perry's stance because of his relationship to the watchdog governing body, Texas Forensic Science Commission. The Morton and Willingham cases. Sam Bassett former chairman of the Texas Forensic Science Commission, twice called to meetings with Perry's top attorneys, was quoted saying the following,
"As soon as we started discussing the Willingham investigation, the meeting got more confrontational"
"I was surprised that they were involving themselves in the commission's decision-making, I did feel some pressure from them, yes. There's no question about that."
"I've seen this kind of endless drumbeat of strategies and actions to stop this [Willingham] investigation, and it's been terribly disappointing."
After Bassett's term, John Bradley was appointed by Perry and held the chairman position until this year. Bradley is now the Williamson County District Attorney (where the Morton crime occurred). Morton's lawyers were reported to have urged a Williamson County district judge to remove Bradley from the case, saying he cannot be trusted to oversee a reinvestigation of the killing because he has shown "unprofessional" animosity toward Morton and his lawyers.
1) Slow internet is a local issue, you have many choices in most places and satelite for the rest.
2) Americans choose to fly, that's why almost half of all air travel in the world is in the US. We do have fast trains on the east coast, but they are commuter, the US is just too big for trains, even fast ones are no competition for 550 mph planes.
3) Universal health care? Medicaid? Medicare? and the law forcing ER's to provide service are close enough, unless you like what is going on in Greece.
4) Autobahns? First of all, they have fallen into disrepair and many p[laces have speed limits, second, Germany is a small country, third, WTF do you think the interstate system is?
5) Metric system? we tried it and did not like it, use it some so whats the problem? Go buy a 2-Liter of coke and cool off while you fix your Corvette that was made in KY with your metric tools made in China.
6) Death penalty? Only some states actually use the death penalty, and enough people support it to keep it around. Its called representative democracy.
"His attorneys say prosecutors and investigators kept evidence from the defense that would have helped acquit him at trial."
This happens EVERYWHERE, not just Texas, Police and Prosecutors ALL lie and Cheat to convict people guilty or not. Police and the Courts can NOT be trusted in America today.
Jeremy-960164, I think you're missing the point. People mentioned Rick Perry and the republicans because they are the ones that are so strongly in favor of the death penalty.
A case like this is a prime example of why we need to get rid of the death penalty. What would the great state of Texas have done if they had executed this man and then found out he was innocent? Send the man's family a sympathy card that says "oops"?
Cygnus - Maybe the reason the republicans are against more government funded public programs is because of the abysmal job they do with the existing programs. As for the existing programs, how much return on the money have we gotten from welfare and food stamp users/abusers?
I didn't miss the point, everyone bringing in the Death Penalty missed the point. THIS was NOT a death penalty case. it was a life in prison. The D.P. has NOTHING to do here.
People are bringing other arguments into the issue when they are not relevant.
It has been noted several times here that the jury found him guilty. The jury deliberated on evidence and testimony that was given at trial. If ALL of the evidence is not given, and if what IS given is slanted to make a person appear guilty, what other conclusion can they come to?
We need to hold the appropriate people responsible for atrocities like this. America has become too consumed with seeing ANYONE jailed for a crime, instead of the RIGHT person jailed for a crime. As soon as we get back to INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty, the better off we will be.
I will believe that corporations are people when we execute one here in Texas,
The story said the DNA matched someone who was involved in another murder;
So by wrongly convicting Morton, the case was closed and the real killer was free to kill again. Seems a lot of lives were destroyed because of the failure of justice in this case.
No, Jeremy you DID miss the point. Amazingly, you're STILL missing the point.
Yes, I realize that this was not a death penalty case. The point, however, is that this case shows how fallible our court system is. It's naive to think that wrongful convictions happen only in cases where the penalty is life in prison.
Cases like this show that our courts have EXECUTED INNOCENT PEOPLE. Worse, our courts have killed innocent people even when they know that wrongful convictions sometimes happen.
Think about that for a moment.
For that comment you are now, officially my hero.
25 years later and all they have to say is "oops"??
I bet Perry wanted him executed.
How many executions has the elected President stopped?
he tried...if you bother to research, but it is not up to him but the gouverneur
I believe you missed my point... didn't he recently order the death of someone?
Texas or Iran, places where you don't want to be when you are in the legal system.
You are more likely to die in Texas death row than to die in a plane crash.
Just gotta say Well DUH!!! If your on death row anywhere, you're more likely to die than you would in a plane crash, that's the point! Hell, you're more likely to die on death row than from heart disease.
christmaspoo... Such an uneducated response.
Sorry, TexasisHome, but ChristmasPoo is correct. I lived in Tx for five, long, miserable years -- carried a gun, too. I've lived all over the world and all over this country, and I have never felt the need to carry a weapon for protection --- except in Texas. And remember, we're talking about a state in which 1/3 of the population wants to secede --- how patriotic. I've been very upset with this nation and the crap we get ourselves into, but no matter what, I've never wanted this nation to fall apart or fail.
The death row/heart disease race is too close to call.
I think the point christmaspoo was making that an innocent person in Texas is more likely to die on death row than in a plane crash. Obviously, if you are already on death row you are very likely to die unless there is some sort of intervention.
Although probably not true, christmaspoo was using a hyperbole to demonstrate that the state that has the most executions, most likely has the most innocent executions as well.
Even so, there has not been a good argument presented that a higher % of the executions are innocent people. The % would be more important in my opinion for this point to hold true.
kat-1015719... I am native Texan and have a CHL, but have never felt the 'need' to actually carry. You've must've lived in really bad neighborhoods.
"1/3 of the population wants to secede"? I highly doubt it actually 1/3, but for the most part those that want to are for the exact reason you state in your last sentence. This country is already failing as a nation mainly due to its leadership. Texas leadership is no better though. Most of us would rather see pretty boy perry go leap off a tall building.
Such a Katy response. Same thing perhaps...
Maggie... Same to you. Have an AWESOME day!
Voice you said it. We may a better system than most countries but the best, not so sure of that. Alot of innocent people are railroaded every day in this country. Thank God for DNA science. I'm sure there are many, many others from yester year still locked up from failed evidence and prosucatory illegalities.
A judicial system under which your likelihood of conviction and the length of sentence correlates to your ethnicity is not the "best system of justice in the world."
On the other hand, three principles of American justice serve as beacons:
* Presumption of innocence
* The right to a speedy trial
* The right not to testify against yourself
* The right to an attorney
* The right to due process
Conservatives have never liked the last two, and have put the first three under assault in recent years, all while proclaiming their love for the Constitution. Go figure.
Citizen K-2113048 I agree if Mr. Morton wasn't white, in Texas is most likely he would have been sentenced to death.
Choirboy -- well said.
Life sentences and the death penalty are cases where 99% accuracy is a failing grade (that is not to say other wrongful convictions should be tolerated). Attorneys General get elected and re-elected based on their records of convictions and prosecutions. So there is often a rush to judgement -- to get one in the win column---although we are expected to believe that the legal process is a search for the truth. Most often it is -- I think, but you can't reverse an execution, or give a man or woman 25 years of his/her life back.
I had exactly the same reaction when I read that line. The sheer audacity and hypocrisy of it is sickening.
Bradley, the one who suppressed the evidence, should have to do exactly the same amount of time that Morton was forced to serve.
It's absurd and pointlessly cruel that anyone one should ever be executed or have to serve a life sentence solely based on circumstantial evidence.
I believe Bradley suppressed the evidence to protect Ken Anderson, the original prosecutor and who is now a district judge. Both men were appointed by Perry. They should share the same cell.
So by that sentance, one can assume that you agree with the Casey Anthony trial. Since all the evidence that was prevented was Circumstantial at best.
So what's your point?
@Jeremy:
One may not like the verdict of Casey Antony trial, but it's better to have a guiltyone go, than to lock an innocent for 25 years.
Will you still say that when one comes back some day and murders someone you love?
Point is, both are equally unjust.
Yes I live in Texas no I did not vote for Perry and won't vote for him in the primary because he is soft on illegal immigration and use to be a Democrate and still carries a lot of Liberial ideals.
At least he made it to trial in a lot of places they just leave you in a ditch someplace or if you have enough money you pay off the local police and someone else is guilty and goes to jail for you.
next some of you are saying he was convicted on circumstantial evidence were you at the trial or have you read the transcripts....................
As far as those of you who want to say this only happens in Texas you are so full of it.
For all of you who keep blaming Perry did he sentence the man did he head up the jury...........
Mr.Steady,
No they are not equally unjust. When a guilty man goes free, a guilty man goes free. When an innocent man gets convicted a life is destroyed AND a guilty man goes free. So putting an innocent man behind bars, compounds the original crime be creating a completely new one.
Morton is the 45th Texas inmate to be exonerated based on new DNA evidence, according to the Innocence Project of Texas.
rconstant,
Took the words RIGHT out of my mouth! When an innocent person goes to prison, the guilty person is still free. I fail to see equal injustice there.
At Jeremy,
What a straw man argument you have! Let's make up an imaginary situation where I might make myself an exception to the rule just to disprove said rule. That is terrible logic. Let's hope one day you get screwed over due to a hypothetical question.... see how easy that was?
I do agree with culhealth. If you defeat the purpose of your position (which is to seek the truth and convict the right person) then you should be subject to charges yourself, regardless of your elected position. It's called obstruction of justice
Why are these people who withheld evidence not in prison?
Because it's not a crime.
It's an ethics violation. The most that can happen is loss of law licesence and that rarely happens.
Because the a-hole proscecutor who withheld it is now a judge in Williamson County. He's considered one of those "tough on crime" judges who keep getting reelected (yes, we elect judges here in Texas).
Well, most (probably) Texans believe there's a god, and one of that god's Ten Rules for Living is not to bear false witness, so these two good old boys may have some explaining to do.
Of course, that's all pie in the sky, so in reality, they will never have to answer for it.
It's not a crime? Wouldn't it fall under Obstruction of Justice?
No, it falls under Lawyer's Rules of Professional Conduct (RPC).
Well I'll defer to your knowledge since I am quite ignorant of the laws/rules regarding lawyers. But it seems silly to me that if "I" withheld evidence it would be obstructing justice, but if a lawyer did it, it wouldn't be. Seems like the law should be applied equally no matter your vocation.
What's fair is when you have justice prevail, even after 25 years.
Next is to prosecute the lawyers and judges who so grossly mishandle cases. No amount of money can repay for time lost, but ensuring those crooks involved are stripped of abilities to continue unjust practice is priceless.
Nothing will ever make up for missing out on being a dad to his son for all those years.... the poor child - mother brutally murdered, and then growing up with his father locked away all those years....
....especially when the son TOLD them that his father is not the one who murdered his mother.
Yes, I know ... the vast majority of people convicted of crime ARE guilty, including those in capital cases. But for the times, like this, when they are not ... exactly, what parden and compensation can you give the person who is executed for a crime they did not commit? It costs no more to imprison a convicted murderer for life ... in fact, it costs less, than does executing them. And for the ones who aren't guilty of what they would be executed for, would any one of you who think the few non-guilty executed aren't enough to reconsider the death penalty as appropriate ... all I can ask you is this: Would you be willing to be an innocent person executed for a crime you did not commit in support of your unequivocal support of the death penalty? Would you really be?
Maybe - if you compare apples and oranges, such as serving 25 years on death row and go through all of the appeals and then are executed. But if you are executed in somewhat less than 2-1/2 decades (longer than most "life" sentences) the numbers drastically change.
You have certainly skewed the debate. You ask whether anybody would accept being wrongly convicted for a capital case but you didn't ask about wrongful convictions for life without parole. Both result in never being free.
How many more people are in jail for crimes they did not commit? Evidence that could exonerate him was kept secret? Shocking! The police and prosecution's primary goal is to get a conviction. Actual guilt is secondary at best. Thankfully there are groups working to get wrongful convictions overturned but their task must be overwhelming. This guy is extremely lucky he wasn't wrongfully executed. I hope he enjoys the money he gets. He's earned every penny and more.
Especially if they are poor, uneducated or belong to a minority.
Huh? Don't you think that the prison staff would know they are executing the correct prisoner? How easy is it to confuse one prisoner for another?
At least he is being compensated. In Pennsylvania the wrongly convicted are let out of jail with just the clothes on their backs and a ticket for transportation. The legislature refuses to allocate funds for these unfortunate innocents. Several years ago Lynn Abraham wouldn't free a man until he signed a form stating that he wouldn't sue the Philadelphia Police Dept. He had spent 27 years in jail because of police and prosecutorial misconduct.
That would be called extortion.
"Women are real good looking," Morton said with a smile
and they don't make your butthole hurt unless you divorce them.
is it possible to get STD along with hurting butthole?
Poor Perry and the blood-lusters, left thirsty at the bar. They just can't admit its all about their sadistic need to kill someone, and has nothing at all to do with actual justice.
you do realize this guy wasn't sentenced to death - don't you?
C'mon man... Perry has more important stuff to do.
Like paint a big rock.
We DO have one of the best, if not the best, justice SYSTEM in the world.
That system, however, can become flawed by some of the people within that system.
The concepts of innocent until proven guilty, right to a lawyer, trial by jury, and the ability to appeal are what make our justice system good.
Ambition, greed, hardheadedness, and the need to "blame someone" are some of the traits of some of the people involved in our justice system that make our system fallible, which is why the death penalty is a very suspect punishment.
Still ... can someone point me to a better justice system?
I agree that the "system" is the best. As is always the case, how the system is operated can be horrific. The people involved in failing to give all the evidence to the defense were "concerned" about advancing in their careers. Some assistant DA wanted to be "the" DA or some DA wanted to be governor, a senator or a representative. It's all kind of sickening. Did those who withheld the evidence give this man a second thought? Probably not.
The 2 million will be nice, but can never make up for spending decades behind bars while friends and family died, and a son who was probably tortured all these years with the thought that maybe his dad killed his mom. I do hope that they will be able to share happily their lives from here on.
Any system is inseparable from how it is operated. Too often, the American system of justice does not reflect the American principles of justice as enumerated in the Constitution.
concerned-memphian you can Google and research it by yourself, all those legal terms are too long and complicated to explain in a blog. Although I'm sure ours is better than Sharia law.
Any system that allows police and prosecutors to suppress evidence of innocence with impunity is deeply flawed.
I blame the Founding Fathers. Not for incompetence, or neglect, or anything like that. I blame them for believing too highly in people. They overestimated peoples' honor, and this kind of thing is the result.
Or maybe people actually were better back then?
How do we know now it's the best?
We've in fact veered far from the constitution.
Maybe the Founding Fathers didn't overestimate the honesty and integrity of the people. Maybe they didn't think the peoples' honesty and integrity would diminish as it has and that the people wouldn't undermine their creation.
he's going to get locked up for rape soon.
Hey Gov. Perry you still sure no one has been put to death wrongly in Texas?( well other than Cameron Todd Willingham of course).
Barry Sheck is to be recognized for the incredible work he has done and continues to do. We all dis on lawyers, until someone like Sheck finds the truth in a wrongful conviction.
this is his penance for helping OJ walk free...
Barry does a good job using DNA to get people out of jail and also for keeping people from going to jail, e.g. simpson.
It sounds like he should not have been convicted in the first place. Texas "justice" is based on the presumption of guilt rather than innocence.
So is all of the judicial system. We can give thanks to our media and modern television programing for that one. All they report is the negative and bad in people. Prob. because that is what sells. It does affect society and the way people think. Most people think guilty when they see a trial. Heck, some don't even have to loose in court and it affects the rest of their life. I think the D.A. should be held accountable for cases like this. They are so gung-ho in advancing their own careers they forget to treat the defendant like a human being.
Texas justice isn't justice at all. It's merely the proposition of shooting first and not even bothering to ask questions later.
I agree that our whole system is based on an assumption of guilt. If both the police, the DA, and a grand jury think someone is guilty enough to indict, they must be guilty. You can trust the work the Police and district attorneys do, right? Those offices have a lot of credibility.
I think the myth of Presumption of Innocence is a fatal flaw.
The prosecuter should be imprisioned for the same number of years after this guy gets to torcher him.
Just don't bother Governor Perry with the facts. He's too busy staying in the execution business, rather than staying executions.
There are two travesties of justice here, both against the innocent. The first is obviously the wrongful conviction. The second is that those responsible for the wrongful conviction will NOT be held accountable for the $2 million he will be awarded. The innocent residents of Texas will be on the hook for the money and the responsible parties will get off scott free.
My understanding is that in past cases the exonerated never actually see that money. It gets held up in some kind of Catch-22 they have in Texas. The law exists, but the ability to actually pay out the money to the wrongfully convicted does not. It's a cruel charade that Texas maintains, one of the most legally backward States in the US. Hence all these wrongful convictions.
Actually, there is a third travesty here. For every wrongfully convicted person, there are one or more real criminals out and about in society, never brought to justice and free to commit more crimes. In this case, the man whose DNA was on the bandana and is likely responsible for committing the murder of Christine Morton is also the likely perpetrator of another murder which occurred after Christine Morton's death. Had the police and prosecutors been as determined to actually solve the crime as they were to prosecute Mr. Morton, the true killer might have been found before he could kill again.
Paisley -- I stand corrected. You are obviously correct. A tip of my hat to you sir or madam for pointing out my error of omission.
He was lucky they didn't give him the needle within a year or two of the slaying. If he didn't do it, whoever did is still free though.
Re-read the article. The DNA found on the scene has been tied to a person in jail on other charges.
Rick Perry is not what being a Republican is all about. Sadly I must admit that Perry, and others like him have strayed from the party's beliefs and foundation. However, this article is NOT about politics. This article is about a man's life being stolen from him because of sloppy police work, sloppy prosecutors, and a very flawed legal system. None of those things have anything to do with party politics, so shame on you who blame it on one party or another.
I believe (and I could be wrong here) that Texas leads the nation in wrongful convictions. While I am pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-execution for most heinious crimes, I am utterly appalled how the great State of Texas has convicted so many innocent people and left them to rot or to be placed on death row.
Some people believe that that is okay. Not me though, I'd rather let 1,000 guilty ones walk than to see one innocent person wrongly convicted. This man lost 25 years of his life. He was 32 when he went into the "system". He as spent almost as much time incarcerated as he has been free. They want to give him $80 a year for each year he was in prison, again --- that is simply wrong, he deserves more. Even moreso, the prosecutor and other officials involved should have their licenses revoked, and be sent to prison for a significant amount of time. But oh no, they have governmental immunity. Where is the justice in that?
Mikespike. Let me see if I have this straight. You are Pro life AND Pro Execution which results in death? Is that like fighting for peace or f**king for virginity? Just asking. Not holding my breath expecting you to answer but it would be interesting I bet, if you did (without avoiding the question).
Kent, I believe he means not believing in abortion. And there is one heck of a big difference between killing an innocent baby executing and a serial killer.
Oops, meant to say "and executing", not "executing and". Got ahead of myself.
Mr. Steady- - What is the big difference??? Which one is not dead after the procedure?
It's TEXAS, and they are proud of their ignorance. Born that way, and bygod, gonna stay that way! Proud to be a Texan, backward, and givin' ya Perry.
Texas is a large and diverse state. You are certainly describing an element there, perhaps even a large one, but not everyone is like this. Also, Texas does not have a monopoly on residents who are proud of their ignorance.
IDIOT
drushalli... Tts hard to keep your hands clean when slinging mud.
Bush 1 said it best. "Read my lips, NO new Texans,"
I think we have to reverse that saying in the USA justice system..from innocent until proven guilty... and change it to.... guilty until proven innocent!
OUR legal system is the best in the world?!!! Our legal system is set up so that criminals can commit the same crimes over and over again. OUR legal system is set up so that prosecutors get away with murder of innocent people, with no consequences. There lives should be taked too, along with anyone else responsible for the deaths of innocent people. How dare they even crave another breath!
Worse than the fact that prosecutors get great satisfaction in framing and convicting people they know to be innocent is the fact that it happens so often in Texas, they have a standard $80k per year compensation for unlawful imprisonment.