It is good to see that other nations are actually helping with the anti terrorism front, if that is how it went down. >>> has been killed in the capital of the Horn of Africa country, the U.S. government confirmed Saturday. <<< Hit by a bus? Killed during a bank robbery? Old age? Reporting is weak these days.
Hit by a bus? Shot while commiting a robbery? Fell down a flight of stairs?
It is good to see that other nations are actually helping with the anti terrorism front, if that is how it went down. >>> has been killed in the capital of the Horn of Africa country, the U.S. government confirmed Saturday.
There's some incredibly important information in this article. First though, a thumbs-up for the police work that led to this terrorist's death.
I hope readers noted the fact that another terrorist group has pledged its solidarity with al-Qaeda. Once again, we are offered further proof that this has nothing to do with Islam - NOTHING. This is about terrorism, an attempt to bring chaos, corruption, and eventual destruction of stability that plays into the hands of these killers. They want to hold the reins of power. It's as simple as that.
With that in mind, it should be clearer and clearer that the total defeat of these terrorists is a police matter. It is most assuredly not a task for an organized military. This is not one nation warring against another. It is a loosely affiliated group of nuts who do not fly a national flag, who have no respect for borders, and who are citizens of nations around the world, the U.S. included. They have no common interests except taking power for themselves.
We should be insisting that all police agencies across the globe cooperate in efforts to smash these killers. No government has an interest - political, economic, or otherwise - in promoting their existence.
David Walker you are offered nothing regarding Islam because Obama has censored that sort of talk. Just like they have about never mentioned that Weiner's wife is Muslim. It just ain't cool nowadays. What? Do you think he was Mormon? Some things only take common sense. Getcha some.
David, good post. I am not so sure terrorist leaders are interested in seizing power, I think they are so filled with hatred that they simply want to hurt their enemies, whether those real or perceived enemies are Westerners or fellow Muslims. The decisions and actions may be influenced by religious fervor and anti-Western influences, but I think there is more than that. They seem to hate government, law and order, and civilization in general and are doing everything they can to destroy it.
We should recruit those pirates to hunt AQ globally. Some bitches aren't worried about a religious cause, just making money. jacking all those ships with minimal loss of life is a testimony to that. Send their asses to straighten out Pakistan and Afghanistan. Couldn't be any more shady and corrupt than KBR & Haliburton.
Of course you can prove that Obama censors the news, right? Of course he has been involved in a smooth cover-up spanning more than 20 years as he masqueraded as a Christian, right? And the impact on world affairs of Huma Weiner's Muslim religion is what?
I'll tell you what's not cool these days! It's believing that the Earth is 6,000 years old in spite of ALL evidence to the contrary. It's believing that you and you alone are able to determine the one true God. It's NOT knowing that the Christian God is the same as the Hebraic God is the same as the Muslim God.
Why don't you spend more time - all of you "religious" types - learning about your God and less time planning on how to kill the people who don't believe like you do?
I'll stand by my post. These terrorists are not about religion. They are about terror. However, given your direct line to the one true God, why don't you ring him up and tell Him to put a stop to this killing. Of course, his voice might thunder at you........"Hey Oh no, turn the other cheek." That's in your God's Bible, you know.
Oh wait, it is the Muslim God that tells its' followers to kill non believers (infidels), not the Christian God! Is that what you meant, David?
Well---P. Walker, that sword has cut both ways through history. The Crusades were all about conversion to Christianity or be put to death and the same with the Spanish Inquisitions. If you understand that the 3 religion are Abrahamic religions and the beginning of monotheism, you're half way home. There's a bounty of reading material out there--find it.
Quite right, sandtrich, I am aware of the misdeeds of "Christians" in the attempt to convert many throughout History, and certainly don't condone it! Yes, there is a bounty of reading material out there, and I have read much of it, and am still reading! MY point is, in the Koran itself, it does say DEATH to all infidels, of which, I am one, so you can understand my displeasure with this particular religion! Have you read it? Peace out!
David Walker - Once again, we are offered further proof that this has nothing to do with Islam - NOTHING.
This has everything to do with Islam. The International Al Quada Franchise is part of the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists). The Worldwide Islamic Military is supported by the Mandatory Islamic Tithes (2% or more of everything an Islamic Believer has) of the 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers (example: 2% of the Rich of Qatar = Billions), these Mandatory Islamic Tithes are funnelled thru"Non Traditional Financial Institutions" like the local Mosques, Islamic Properties, and Islamic Individuals (like the ones caught at Chicago, 2011). The Mandatory Islamic Tithes can be (not limited to) Political Endorsements, Legalization of Terrorist Organizations ("Expert Legal Advise" of Lawyers), Monetary, Taqiya (lies to advance Islam), posting misinformation on the internet that are Taqiya, "Humanitarian Aid" (things the Terrorist Organizations would have to purchase instead of using funds to buy weapons), Sanctuary and Refuge, etc. and when you have nothing more to give then you give yourself by joining the Jihad. Reference President Obama's 2009 Patriot Acts, "Material Support" section, that make the Mandatory Islam Tithes Illegal upheld by US Supreme Court. US Intelligence, US Asymmetric Warfare (independent verifications), US Department of State, US Law Enforcement, etc. "Following the Money" (Mandatory Islamic Tithes). Cut the Islamic Mandatory Tithes and the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists) have nothing (cannot do their primary Mission of Killing the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers in accordance with the Current Islamic Laws, and the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran (Quran)(legal precedent over the current Islamic Laws) that Calls All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers (yes, that includes Atheists too. Peaceful Buddhists (why the blew up the Statues at Northern Afghanistan)).
Known that the majority of the Worldwide Islamic Military is supported by Fundamentalist Islamic Iran. Fundamentalist Islamic Iran supported with weapons, equipment, money, advisers, etc. by the Chinese and Russian Federation for Fundamentalist Islamic Oil. Goal of both Fundamentalist Islamic Iran and the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists) in accordance with current Islamic Laws, Kill the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers for the Death Penalty Crimes against Allah and His Prophet, as well as all the "Collaborators" to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers to "Die A Horrible Murdering".
David Walker - I'll stand by my post. These terrorists are not about religion.
Once again you know NOTHING about Islam by even using the limiting Western Term: "Religion" for Islam. As for All Islamic Believers (by Islamic Law, regardless of where, or citizenship status, as enforced by the Worldwide Islamic Law Enforcement), Islam is ALL. All Politics, All Religion, All Laws, All Ways of Life, All Culture, All Beliefs, etc. that supersede the politics, religions, laws, ways of life, cultures, beliefs, etc. of all nations. This is why to take away Islam from and Islamic Believer is considered Murder, the same reason why conversion away from Islam is considered as "Doing Harm to Allah and His Prophet", the Death Penalty.
GO READ THE F**KING CURRENT ISLAMIC LAWS, AND THE UNABRIDGED ARABIC HOLY KORAN (QURAN)(the english translations omit all the harsh wording, entire Suras (Versus), sentences, etc.).
Example: The Arabic Omani Muslims (Muslim = subjugated to Islam) massacring the Peaceful African Islamic Believers by the hundreds a day, because they refused to attack the Peaceful African Christians at South Sudan (aka Darfur). To date the Arabic Omani Muslims have massacred about a million Peaceful African Islamic Believers. From firsthand experience at UN UA (African Union) Mission.
So David Walker if you really believe what you do. How about this you replace one of my men or women (Put Your Life where your mouth is, or fight and possibly die for your belief) here (Afghanistan years of consecutive tours, previously Iraq years of consecutive tours, previously Africa, etc.). By the way that would require you to learn in the US Arabic, then immersion in an Arabic Country's College while living with a Non English Speaking Arabic Family (in my case First Middle East Language Farsi in US, immersion living with Kurdistanis), Arabic in US immersion College at Egypt, living with Non English Speaking Egyptian Family. US College Islam, immersion College At Egypt Islam (in Arabic).
So sure keep talking out of your uneducated, uninformed, non factual, emotive rear end David Walker, if you are an Islamic Believer (Muslim, subjugated to Islam) is it that time of the month for your Mandatory Islamic Tithes, in your case posting Taqiya (Lies to Advance Islam) counts as part of your Mandatory Islamic Tithes.
As far as Collapsing Posts, that would prove my point that the Arab (Islamic) World Allied themselves to Hitler 1933, with the Mutual Goals of Extermination of the Jews, and getting the British Out of the Middle East and Africa (Resources). Sp Collapsing of this Post would be proof of Hitler's Propaganda, when you don't like the Researched (or First hand Experienced (witnessed)) Facts, CENSOR CENSOR CENSOR (in this case by Collapsing the Post).
David Walker - Of course you can prove that Obama censors the news, right?
President Obama's January 21, 2009, Patriot Acts (plural), that legalized all those things that were considered Illegal under the President Bush Patriot Act (singular). Especially, the Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications.
Example: February 2009 under threat of prosecution, many Internet sites changed their formats, to include US and their own Native Internet Sites (not viewable in US. Http://404, "Not Available in your region", etc..
English Al Jazeera censored and not the same as Arabic Al Jazeera, as Arabic Al Jazeera praised Al Quada going to help the Libyan Islamic Fighters Group (LIFG) to start the Civil War to Overthrow Gaddaffi (Collaborator to the Chirstians, Jews, Unbelievers under the President Bush Era).
alqieda has no more to do with Islam than the christian right has to do with christianity but you are entitled to your views. as for me the christian right has more in common with the begining of the nazi party than most give them serious credit for.
Let's see if I got this straight. The Radical Muslims will behead me if I don't believe in their God but the radical Christians will burn me to a stake if I don't believe in their God. Oh what a choice I have.
Now on the other hand, the Jews do it differently. They will destroy my whole family.
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3
If memory serves - and it most assuredly does - I used to go around and around with you about the notion of the United States and its declarations of war. I maintained then, as I do now, that we have not been in a war since the end of WWII. Looks like more and more folks are starting to realize I was right.
I note that you have stopped with your nonsensical diatribes about the Clinton declaration since that time. See, even you can learn. I also note that you continue with your rants about asymmetrical warfare as though this is something that has only come into combat since Afghanistan.
I also note your continued reference to "your men". I can only say that I wish them a speedy and safe return, and I will always wonder if they see you as the self-important blatherskite that I see.
Spare me the time served nonsense. I did my time. The difference is this. I learned that there are no winners in these forays. None.
As far as religion - whether you like the term or not is irrelevant. I'll check with Webster for my definitions, not you. That said, see Larry lotsanumber's post at 1.19. He's pretty much got the God folks figured out.
mike m1967 - alqieda has no more to do with Islam than the christian right has to do with christianity but you are entitled to your views. as for me the christian right has more in common with the begining of the nazi party than most give them serious credit for.
Go do the research and do not even attempt to denegrate the researched (or firsthand experienced) Facts by labelling Facts as "views".
DOCUMENTED HISTORY versus your emotive non factual "views":
In 1933 the Arab (Islamic) World sent Amin Al-Husseini to Berlin to represent them in the Alliance with Hitler. Amin Al-Husseini was one of the co founders of the Muslim Brotherhood (1928). To circumvent the then restrictions (WWI) restrictions on the size of the German Military, they formed a Muslim Elite SS Brigade to round up the Jews for the "Relocation" and "Work" Camps (extermination concentration camps). Later on with the help of the National Socialist German Workers Party (a Political German Labor Union, aka NAZI Party) Abdul Gamal Nasser (later President of Egypt), founded a socialist Party called "Young Egypt", modelled after the Nazi-Party. The motto of Young Egypt was the same as Hitlers: "One Folk, One Party, One Leader". It became Mandatory School curriculum to study Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and the blame the Jews for everything, "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion" (was that way when I attended College at Egypt (just to learn Arabic; told that I must take the Pro Hitler mandatory curriculum or fail and leave)).
mike m1967 explain to everyone here where the International Al Quada Franchise is getting all their money, support, etc..
From post #1.17 that you did not read entirely, ask these people: US Intelligence, US Asymmetric Warfare (independent verifications), US Department of State, US Law Enforcement, etc. "Following the Money" (Mandatory Islamic Tithes).
Larry-2260635 - Let's see if I got this straight. The Radical Muslims will behead me if I don't believe in their God
Yes, current Islamic Laws.
Larry-2260635 - but the radical Christians will burn me to a stake if I don't believe in their God.
Nope. Illegal. So are you implying that the Islamic Believers are stuck in the Middle Ages (Dark Ages).
And David Walker are you a relative of John A. Walker, known traitor to the US.
I still want to see you counter the President Clinton Law, 1998, H.R.4655.
You can say that we have Not Declared a War since WWII, then you tell me why the International Laws consider that a Government Declaring an Overthrow of another Sovereign Nation's Government "An Act of War" and the same as Declaring War on Another Nation. International Court of Justice Hague.
Yes, go look up Websters (out of print, obsolete), regardless of your lack of knowledge of Islam.
It is my men's, women's, and my beliefs (our decades of experience) that I post.
David Walker - I also note that you continue with your rants about asymmetrical warfare as though this is something that has only come into combat since Afghanistan.
This is exactly what I mean about your non factual baloney. When you cannot dispute the Researched or experienced Facts attempt to discredit, denegrate the source, quite Hitler of you.
As from previous Newsvine Post viewable by all Newsvine Posters (that prove you are full of SH!T):
One of the First Examples of Successful US Military Asymmetric Warfare was the "Minutemen" (individuals, no uniforms, shopkeeps, merchants, hunters, trappers, etc.) versus the "British Regulars" (Uniforms, Conventional Napoleonic Warfare). The Minutemen were responsible for holding off the British after British Generals Cornwallis and Henry Clinton Seized the Colonist's Militia's (predecessor to the National Guard, uniforms, Conventional Napoleonic Warfare) Armories. With the Colonist's Militias fleeing with the Founding Fathers from the British Regulars, Bounty Hunters, British Loyalists. This is why in 2010 the US Supreme Court Ruled that the D.C. Anti Gun Laws were Illegal based on the Historical Perspective.
Nope. Illegal. So are you implying that the Islamic Believers are stuck in the Middle Ages (Dark Ages).
Not at all. I'm implying that the religious right is stuck in the dark ages. Look at their attack on everyone in this country that does not believe as they do. A politician cannot mention abortion rights or freedom of same sex marriage without being "crucified" by the radical religious right. No, they don't physically burn them at the stake but they do burn them every other way they can and even go as far as bomb places they don't want to exist. If that doesn't work, they shoot them in church with the blessings of those same radical religious right.
This is exactly what I mean about your non factual baloney. When you cannot dispute the Researched or experienced Facts attempt to discredit, denegrate the source, quite Hitler of you.
But in his previous post he stated in post #1.21:
And David Walker are you a relative of John A. Walker, known traitor to the US.
By your own words, isn't that a little Hitler of you?
The Radical Muslims will behead me if I don't believe in their God but the radical Christians will burn me to a stake if I don't believe in their God. Oh what a choice I have.
Well which would you prefer, a hot steak or a cold chop?? LOL
Steve, there is no amount of verification that will make those that don't want to believe, believe. There are people who still think Elvis and Tupac are alive.
Cappy, nobody elected you to decide what is right or enough. There is grey as well as your black and white nonsense.
WE swallowed a soundbite that America had OBLs DNA and we matched it in how many hours before they dropped his carcass in the ocean????????? I would love to see that timeline on a website.
Blind faith killed every lemming that was following the tail in front of it, and all the ones that got shoved over the edge by the lemmings in too much of a hurry to stop and look as they did what they were told by instinct You cast aspersions on America because of a fraction of a percent. And so what, was Elvis fomenting a piracy war?
Osama Bin Laden = If Valuable Intelligence, then captured alive, DNA sample taken, currently on an Intelligence Ship (Black Ship) locked in a cage sailing around the Mediterranean in big circles. When no longer useful, shot and dumped. If USN SEALs "accidentally killed" OBL, then their careers over.
Osama Bin Laden = If not valuable Intelligence, shot, killed and dumped.
In both cases President Obama distances himself from Mission until successful as not to endanger the Office of the President and his Political Career. The scapegoats if a failure would be the Mission Commander and On Scene Commander.
It's not difficult to take a DNA sample and feed photos through facial recognition programs. It also tends to help when Al-Queda themselves confirm the deaths. If that's not good enough for you, you probably wont ever be satisfied anyway so why should we pander to you?
So you are going to "Slash and burn" the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide that are supporting the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists) thru Mandatory Islamic Tithes (see post#1.17 as to what the Mandatory Islamic Tithes are).
98% of Muslims think that was a pretty ignorant statement. Have you ever even met a Muslim? Thats like saying that you and every other american support the works of the unabomber, lee harvey oswald, a john wils booth
ow If they would just do the same to American terrorists like bush, cheney, rice, powell, etc. etc. If they can accuse and kill one side without a hearing or trial then what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Ken, it seems you forgot about the most recent terrorist attack on Yemen approved by the current administration, so you must believe that Gates, Clinton and Obama should be included?
Uh folks this is Somalia we are talking about where truth is some what debatable and at times purchasable. The rush to pay the sizable reward offered for this rats capture/demise should be restrained until verified.
Ditto; isn't this the same country that brought us 'Blackhawk Down' and piracy as a source of income? Any modern forensics should be able to verify without much time involved.
I'd like to know the $5M is going for the right card in the deck.
The article said they dug him back up, after burying him, to get DNA and to take pictures. Sort of an after- thought that they may need to prove it was him. I am really having trouble swallowing this line of bull.
There won't be a reward paid to anyone. It was a police action that killed him. That's there job. If someone would have tipped the police off that he was coming, and he got killed or captured, then the reward would have gone to the informant. Like with OBL the seals don't get a reward, maybe a big promotion.
David they will never be gone, but for the overall story they are being beaten in their leadership, you are right about the recruits because there will always be ignorant youths willing to blow themselves to kingdom come, but regardless you do not win a war by taking potshots. They will fool themselves into believing in a victory once we have become tired with these potshots and leave but not before ripping apart there leadership in their jihadist organizations to keep them from putting together any sort of competent schemes for at least a decade. Then it'll just repeat itself. As far as I have seen the western countries always seem to be brought back into conflict in the ME every decade or so, think of it as a weeding if you could call it that. War is human and human is war basically, there will always be one where there is the other.
Wow. Back to what I posed above. Al-Zawahiri himself confirmed OBL's death, members of Congress have seen the proof, but there are going to be those (mostly President Obama haters) who are still going to doubt it. You could have seen his body, the DNA proof, hell, WENT on the mission with SeAL team 6 and watched him get shot and you will still call into question whether it was actually him.
That's a little over the top Cappy since we are talking about Somalis and the Somalis Government. Now if you want to continue to compare the WH and the current administration with the Somalis go ahead but let's all hope the current administration is just a tad bit more ethical.
Cappy, this is a different terrorist and we haven't see any proof, only the word of Somali Police! Would you pay somebody for mowing your lawn without checking outside the window to see if it was actually done? I HOPE it was him, but we need verification before we start paying out big bucks! Stay focused!
All because Cappy decided it. Fine Cappy. Repeat your alleged fact. Looks more like an accusation you can't back up to a few people, but you decide what you have to.
There are always going to be conspiracy theorists. Even if they saw the body themselves they still wouldn't believe it. OBL's death was confirmed by his own people and yet some still think he's alive somewhere.
Al-Queda thrives on publicity as much as they do their terror acts, if this new guy doesn't release a video saying he's still alive within a couple weeks, that should be all the confirmation you need.
I'm thinking: What? No elaborate ceremony to clean the body and make him the martyr that he wanted to be, and then spend tons of cash to drive an aircraft carrier to the undisclosed location to gently lower his Hell-bound corpse into the ocean? How inhumane! Remind me to not die in Africa.
You don't have a trial unless you plead not guilty. These mental cases brag and tell the world they are guilty. All they would have is a sentence hearing. Like with OBL, that can be done and the sentence carried out in short order. Isn't it wonderful how fast the justice system can work without lawyers.
OBL is not dead. Ur correct basquard, binny probably lives with JIM MORRISON somwhere in southern france..they get along famously..ur post stinks as bad as the rotten cheese da french make. Nothing vague about that.
I wouldn't be surprised if, when the Somali Police collect the reward, they split it with Fazul himself! Then, nobody is trying to kill him anymore because he's already "dead".
NO WAY Uncle is payin w/out proof fellas. His head on a stake preferably, but there are other, more civilized ways. I have a friend who works for a PMC, and there are western contractors there. Also a CIA presence. Theres no way the Somalis did this on their own.
why on earth do you people think we pay reward money to other governments for capturing criminals?
and there is a way the somalis did this on their own. i happen to know for a fact that the somalis are quite competent at shooting people in the face.
and hell dude... they didnt even know they did it. they had to dig him up and check twice just to figure out who they shot. even the somalis can accidently kill the right guy.
I'm not disputing their claim but how did they confirm his identity? There needs to be more than someone claiming they confirmed these people's deaths. Some sort of international committee that can do the confirming. It would so easy for these people to be said to have died and then continue undetected with their terrorism plots.
But I hope they continue to kill these people and someone does something in this country about the 30 camps they have in Canada near our border. The present administration sure isn't and they put the ones in this country right up on this side of our border in Detroit Mich!
You're intriguing me with these al-quieda camps in Canada near the US border. Can you provide some sort of evidence to back up that claim? I mean I would love to believe every random internet person, but I need something from some credible source.
Don't laugh at Last, lets hear what he has to say. Now, Last, you bring up a nice point, honey. I was wondering if this kind of scenario you are concerned with has happened in the past? Could you please cite a verifiable case of a faked death to collect reward money and hide the terrorist on the international scene , honey? Thank you.
Al-Qaeda doesn't need "camps" to brainwash young people. Those are merely for propaganda purposes. Have you seen the hilarious videos of the training these wannabes go through? My high school gym class was tougher.
I know, right? It would be nice if they could control the piracy off their shores so that we and our allies don't have to. Not to mention thanks a lot for the help back in 1993 when our blackhawks went down and Somali mobs murdered and mutilated the corpses of our service-members. @#% Somalia.
Not to mention thanks a lot for the help back in 1993 when our blackhawks went down and Somali mobs murdered and mutilated the corpses of our service-members. @#% Somalia.
Americans also killed 800 civilians in that day and those were angry, we were not all against the americans but things turned the worst somehow.
A believe it or not story ... not! Produce the picture of the corpse. Explain the shooting, rather than detaining him, why no DNA samples to prove it was actually him. To many unanswered questions, not enough evidence, case closed!
We have a big enough problem with wild boars in this country to bury all of Al-Qaida with. Lets start doing that!
We bury them, why? do you think everyone from the World trade Center remains were found? Do you think there families has this satisfaction!
I say we cover them with Wild Boar end trails and let them rot in the Somali Desert Sun. Or Bury them with a Toilet over top so any one can come and "Pay there respects!"
We should get some mileage out of that one! This is there fight and that should bring them out of the shadows for a fight or get them to think about ever raising a hand to ...anyone!
Im pretty sure he meant entrails, it was a simple mistake. At least he did NOT make the common error of spelling Toilet with a lowercase "t". On the otherhand, this poster should learn the difference between "there" and "their". On the other hand Sarah Palin is very successful.
He should have been brought to the US so we could lawyer him up and give him a fair trial so we could determine whether or not he is guilty at a great cost to our taxpayers. NOT!!!!!!!! I kind of like the Somali swift justice system. Very cost effective. And the message it sends!!!!! And don't forget, do like the Chinese, bill the family for the bullet!
Well we could put them on a new twist on putting them on a trial. Let the lawyers join them.
New Trial Process would work this way: Somewhere between Guantanamo and terrorist's home country. We simply let them go or drop them off. Unfortunately, they are in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, but they are in control of their own fate. In fact, if Bush was in office, we could create a policy stating if person is lost at sea, so is the paperwork about him.
Damn obama thinks our forefathers meant a fair trial for everyone and torture is part of freedom. NOT.
The Trial: If you can make it to shore, your a free man. Stiff push to their back, as the crew chants. SWIM. SWIM. SWIM. Good luck.
Remember, the report said he had $40, 000 cash on him. Let's see........Big Bucks on Person+Fishy Foreigner+Trigger Happy Greedy Border Guards=Big Party @ the local watering hole where the guards hang out.
God forbid it should happen again. Im wit you on this. Im taking YOU down with me, no talking, you know wats up, ur gonna go, i say go down swinging. Never again.
Known National Security Threat the over 23 Million Illegal Aliens (Loyal Citizens of another Nation) in the US forced to cooperate with the "Terrorists" by the Mexican Drug Lords (Eastern European Mobs and Russian Mob) or their relatives at their Nation are murdered. Previously to take care of the known National Security Threat President Eisenhower conducted Operation Wetback to apprehend and deport millions of Illegal Aliens in the US.
Let's see how this story adds up: Suspicious Foreigner with $40,000 cash on him+Trigger Happy Border Guards=Big Party @ the watering hole where the border guards hang out. These are fishy stories at best from that part of the world.
Or there was more than $40,000 cash. And he paid them off (more than $40,000 each) and gave them a finger or piece of skin (for DNA) and then they let him go.
US must have a complete body for confirmation. If anyone is going to get a reward.
I hope this is true! I wish there could be some proof. Now, if they could just do something about those pesky pirates!
I wish they would do more for society!
Life expectancy is short in these countries. It's been 20-years....they could be dying of old age. LOL.
I know, the Somali pirates are SO boring, they don't even sing swashbuckling pirate songs! Yo ho ho, and a bottle of rum!
It is good to see that other nations are actually helping with the anti terrorism front, if that is how it went down. >>> has been killed in the capital of the Horn of Africa country, the U.S. government confirmed Saturday. <<< Hit by a bus? Killed during a bank robbery? Old age? Reporting is weak these days.
Hit by a bus? Shot while commiting a robbery? Fell down a flight of stairs?
It is good to see that other nations are actually helping with the anti terrorism front, if that is how it went down. >>> has been killed in the capital of the Horn of Africa country, the U.S. government confirmed Saturday.
Reporting is really weak these days.
There's some incredibly important information in this article. First though, a thumbs-up for the police work that led to this terrorist's death.
I hope readers noted the fact that another terrorist group has pledged its solidarity with al-Qaeda. Once again, we are offered further proof that this has nothing to do with Islam - NOTHING. This is about terrorism, an attempt to bring chaos, corruption, and eventual destruction of stability that plays into the hands of these killers. They want to hold the reins of power. It's as simple as that.
With that in mind, it should be clearer and clearer that the total defeat of these terrorists is a police matter. It is most assuredly not a task for an organized military. This is not one nation warring against another. It is a loosely affiliated group of nuts who do not fly a national flag, who have no respect for borders, and who are citizens of nations around the world, the U.S. included. They have no common interests except taking power for themselves.
We should be insisting that all police agencies across the globe cooperate in efforts to smash these killers. No government has an interest - political, economic, or otherwise - in promoting their existence.
David, I don't think they want chaos, corruption and less stability. I think these guys do what they do for reasons a little more primal.
"Yeah I know why you tore it down that day,
You thought that if you got caught, we'd all go away.
Like a spoiled little baby who can't come out and play,
You had your revenge"
Your anti-pirate post gives Jack Sparrow a sad. :(
YEAH! Another scum sucking pig fart dead. Now do it again....
David Walker you are offered nothing regarding Islam because Obama has censored that sort of talk. Just like they have about never mentioned that Weiner's wife is Muslim. It just ain't cool nowadays. What? Do you think he was Mormon? Some things only take common sense. Getcha some.
David, good post. I am not so sure terrorist leaders are interested in seizing power, I think they are so filled with hatred that they simply want to hurt their enemies, whether those real or perceived enemies are Westerners or fellow Muslims. The decisions and actions may be influenced by religious fervor and anti-Western influences, but I think there is more than that. They seem to hate government, law and order, and civilization in general and are doing everything they can to destroy it.
We should recruit those pirates to hunt AQ globally. Some bitches aren't worried about a religious cause, just making money. jacking all those ships with minimal loss of life is a testimony to that. Send their asses to straighten out Pakistan and Afghanistan. Couldn't be any more shady and corrupt than KBR & Haliburton.
Oh no:
Of course you can prove that Obama censors the news, right? Of course he has been involved in a smooth cover-up spanning more than 20 years as he masqueraded as a Christian, right? And the impact on world affairs of Huma Weiner's Muslim religion is what?
I'll tell you what's not cool these days! It's believing that the Earth is 6,000 years old in spite of ALL evidence to the contrary. It's believing that you and you alone are able to determine the one true God. It's NOT knowing that the Christian God is the same as the Hebraic God is the same as the Muslim God.
Why don't you spend more time - all of you "religious" types - learning about your God and less time planning on how to kill the people who don't believe like you do?
I'll stand by my post. These terrorists are not about religion. They are about terror. However, given your direct line to the one true God, why don't you ring him up and tell Him to put a stop to this killing. Of course, his voice might thunder at you........"Hey Oh no, turn the other cheek." That's in your God's Bible, you know.
Oh wait, it is the Muslim God that tells its' followers to kill non believers (infidels), not the Christian God! Is that what you meant, David?
P. Walker-2000111
Well---P. Walker, that sword has cut both ways through history. The Crusades were all about conversion to Christianity or be put to death and the same with the Spanish Inquisitions. If you understand that the 3 religion are Abrahamic religions and the beginning of monotheism, you're half way home. There's a bounty of reading material out there--find it.
Quite right, sandtrich, I am aware of the misdeeds of "Christians" in the attempt to convert many throughout History, and certainly don't condone it! Yes, there is a bounty of reading material out there, and I have read much of it, and am still reading! MY point is, in the Koran itself, it does say DEATH to all infidels, of which, I am one, so you can understand my displeasure with this particular religion! Have you read it? Peace out!
This has everything to do with Islam. The International Al Quada Franchise is part of the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists). The Worldwide Islamic Military is supported by the Mandatory Islamic Tithes (2% or more of everything an Islamic Believer has) of the 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers (example: 2% of the Rich of Qatar = Billions), these Mandatory Islamic Tithes are funnelled thru"Non Traditional Financial Institutions" like the local Mosques, Islamic Properties, and Islamic Individuals (like the ones caught at Chicago, 2011). The Mandatory Islamic Tithes can be (not limited to) Political Endorsements, Legalization of Terrorist Organizations ("Expert Legal Advise" of Lawyers), Monetary, Taqiya (lies to advance Islam), posting misinformation on the internet that are Taqiya, "Humanitarian Aid" (things the Terrorist Organizations would have to purchase instead of using funds to buy weapons), Sanctuary and Refuge, etc. and when you have nothing more to give then you give yourself by joining the Jihad. Reference President Obama's 2009 Patriot Acts, "Material Support" section, that make the Mandatory Islam Tithes Illegal upheld by US Supreme Court. US Intelligence, US Asymmetric Warfare (independent verifications), US Department of State, US Law Enforcement, etc. "Following the Money" (Mandatory Islamic Tithes). Cut the Islamic Mandatory Tithes and the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists) have nothing (cannot do their primary Mission of Killing the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers in accordance with the Current Islamic Laws, and the 109 Suras of the 114 Suras of the Holy Koran (Quran)(legal precedent over the current Islamic Laws) that Calls All Islamic Believers to War Against the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers (yes, that includes Atheists too. Peaceful Buddhists (why the blew up the Statues at Northern Afghanistan)).
Known that the majority of the Worldwide Islamic Military is supported by Fundamentalist Islamic Iran. Fundamentalist Islamic Iran supported with weapons, equipment, money, advisers, etc. by the Chinese and Russian Federation for Fundamentalist Islamic Oil. Goal of both Fundamentalist Islamic Iran and the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists) in accordance with current Islamic Laws, Kill the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers for the Death Penalty Crimes against Allah and His Prophet, as well as all the "Collaborators" to the Christians, Jews, Unbelievers to "Die A Horrible Murdering".
Once again you know NOTHING about Islam by even using the limiting Western Term: "Religion" for Islam. As for All Islamic Believers (by Islamic Law, regardless of where, or citizenship status, as enforced by the Worldwide Islamic Law Enforcement), Islam is ALL. All Politics, All Religion, All Laws, All Ways of Life, All Culture, All Beliefs, etc. that supersede the politics, religions, laws, ways of life, cultures, beliefs, etc. of all nations. This is why to take away Islam from and Islamic Believer is considered Murder, the same reason why conversion away from Islam is considered as "Doing Harm to Allah and His Prophet", the Death Penalty.
GO READ THE F**KING CURRENT ISLAMIC LAWS, AND THE UNABRIDGED ARABIC HOLY KORAN (QURAN)(the english translations omit all the harsh wording, entire Suras (Versus), sentences, etc.).
Example: The Arabic Omani Muslims (Muslim = subjugated to Islam) massacring the Peaceful African Islamic Believers by the hundreds a day, because they refused to attack the Peaceful African Christians at South Sudan (aka Darfur). To date the Arabic Omani Muslims have massacred about a million Peaceful African Islamic Believers. From firsthand experience at UN UA (African Union) Mission.
So David Walker if you really believe what you do. How about this you replace one of my men or women (Put Your Life where your mouth is, or fight and possibly die for your belief) here (Afghanistan years of consecutive tours, previously Iraq years of consecutive tours, previously Africa, etc.). By the way that would require you to learn in the US Arabic, then immersion in an Arabic Country's College while living with a Non English Speaking Arabic Family (in my case First Middle East Language Farsi in US, immersion living with Kurdistanis), Arabic in US immersion College at Egypt, living with Non English Speaking Egyptian Family. US College Islam, immersion College At Egypt Islam (in Arabic).
So sure keep talking out of your uneducated, uninformed, non factual, emotive rear end David Walker, if you are an Islamic Believer (Muslim, subjugated to Islam) is it that time of the month for your Mandatory Islamic Tithes, in your case posting Taqiya (Lies to Advance Islam) counts as part of your Mandatory Islamic Tithes.
As far as Collapsing Posts, that would prove my point that the Arab (Islamic) World Allied themselves to Hitler 1933, with the Mutual Goals of Extermination of the Jews, and getting the British Out of the Middle East and Africa (Resources). Sp Collapsing of this Post would be proof of Hitler's Propaganda, when you don't like the Researched (or First hand Experienced (witnessed)) Facts, CENSOR CENSOR CENSOR (in this case by Collapsing the Post).
President Obama's January 21, 2009, Patriot Acts (plural), that legalized all those things that were considered Illegal under the President Bush Patriot Act (singular). Especially, the Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications.
Example: February 2009 under threat of prosecution, many Internet sites changed their formats, to include US and their own Native Internet Sites (not viewable in US. Http://404, "Not Available in your region", etc..
English Al Jazeera censored and not the same as Arabic Al Jazeera, as Arabic Al Jazeera praised Al Quada going to help the Libyan Islamic Fighters Group (LIFG) to start the Civil War to Overthrow Gaddaffi (Collaborator to the Chirstians, Jews, Unbelievers under the President Bush Era).
alqieda has no more to do with Islam than the christian right has to do with christianity but you are entitled to your views. as for me the christian right has more in common with the begining of the nazi party than most give them serious credit for.
Let's see if I got this straight. The Radical Muslims will behead me if I don't believe in their God but the radical Christians will burn me to a stake if I don't believe in their God. Oh what a choice I have.
Now on the other hand, the Jews do it differently. They will destroy my whole family.
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3
david lotsanumbers:
If memory serves - and it most assuredly does - I used to go around and around with you about the notion of the United States and its declarations of war. I maintained then, as I do now, that we have not been in a war since the end of WWII. Looks like more and more folks are starting to realize I was right.
I note that you have stopped with your nonsensical diatribes about the Clinton declaration since that time. See, even you can learn. I also note that you continue with your rants about asymmetrical warfare as though this is something that has only come into combat since Afghanistan.
I also note your continued reference to "your men". I can only say that I wish them a speedy and safe return, and I will always wonder if they see you as the self-important blatherskite that I see.
Spare me the time served nonsense. I did my time. The difference is this. I learned that there are no winners in these forays. None.
As far as religion - whether you like the term or not is irrelevant. I'll check with Webster for my definitions, not you. That said, see Larry lotsanumber's post at 1.19. He's pretty much got the God folks figured out.
Go do the research and do not even attempt to denegrate the researched (or firsthand experienced) Facts by labelling Facts as "views".
DOCUMENTED HISTORY versus your emotive non factual "views":
In 1933 the Arab (Islamic) World sent Amin Al-Husseini to Berlin to represent them in the Alliance with Hitler. Amin Al-Husseini was one of the co founders of the Muslim Brotherhood (1928). To circumvent the then restrictions (WWI) restrictions on the size of the German Military, they formed a Muslim Elite SS Brigade to round up the Jews for the "Relocation" and "Work" Camps (extermination concentration camps). Later on with the help of the National Socialist German Workers Party (a Political German Labor Union, aka NAZI Party) Abdul Gamal Nasser (later President of Egypt), founded a socialist Party called "Young Egypt", modelled after the Nazi-Party. The motto of Young Egypt was the same as Hitlers: "One Folk, One Party, One Leader". It became Mandatory School curriculum to study Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and the blame the Jews for everything, "Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion" (was that way when I attended College at Egypt (just to learn Arabic; told that I must take the Pro Hitler mandatory curriculum or fail and leave)).
mike m1967 explain to everyone here where the International Al Quada Franchise is getting all their money, support, etc..
From post #1.17 that you did not read entirely, ask these people: US Intelligence, US Asymmetric Warfare (independent verifications), US Department of State, US Law Enforcement, etc. "Following the Money" (Mandatory Islamic Tithes).
Yes, current Islamic Laws.
Nope. Illegal. So are you implying that the Islamic Believers are stuck in the Middle Ages (Dark Ages).
And David Walker are you a relative of John A. Walker, known traitor to the US.
I still want to see you counter the President Clinton Law, 1998, H.R.4655.
You can say that we have Not Declared a War since WWII, then you tell me why the International Laws consider that a Government Declaring an Overthrow of another Sovereign Nation's Government "An Act of War" and the same as Declaring War on Another Nation. International Court of Justice Hague.
Yes, go look up Websters (out of print, obsolete), regardless of your lack of knowledge of Islam.
It is my men's, women's, and my beliefs (our decades of experience) that I post.
This is exactly what I mean about your non factual baloney. When you cannot dispute the Researched or experienced Facts attempt to discredit, denegrate the source, quite Hitler of you.
As from previous Newsvine Post viewable by all Newsvine Posters (that prove you are full of SH!T):
i want to see the photos.
Next thing is Somalia will ask for economic and military aids to fight Islamic militants.
Luke 19:27 by the way
Sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time -- nothing more -- Somalia doesn't desire any credit.
@ david
Not at all. I'm implying that the religious right is stuck in the dark ages. Look at their attack on everyone in this country that does not believe as they do. A politician cannot mention abortion rights or freedom of same sex marriage without being "crucified" by the radical religious right. No, they don't physically burn them at the stake but they do burn them every other way they can and even go as far as bomb places they don't want to exist. If that doesn't work, they shoot them in church with the blessings of those same radical religious right.
@ david stated in post #1.22:
But in his previous post he stated in post #1.21:
By your own words, isn't that a little Hitler of you?
Keep the good news coming!
Well which would you prefer, a hot steak or a cold chop?? LOL
Killed and buried. Quick and to the point. This should be standard procedure with ALL al-Quida operatives.
Doesn't leave much for verification does it?
Who cares. Just one less terrorist to deal with.
Steve, there is no amount of verification that will make those that don't want to believe, believe. There are people who still think Elvis and Tupac are alive.
Cappy, nobody elected you to decide what is right or enough. There is grey as well as your black and white nonsense.
WE swallowed a soundbite that America had OBLs DNA and we matched it in how many hours before they dropped his carcass in the ocean????????? I would love to see that timeline on a website.
Blind faith killed every lemming that was following the tail in front of it, and all the ones that got shoved over the edge by the lemmings in too much of a hurry to stop and look as they did what they were told by instinct You cast aspersions on America because of a fraction of a percent. And so what, was Elvis fomenting a piracy war?
The point about killed and a quickie burial..There is a $5 million bounty on his AZZ..need more proof then their words alone its him.
Never knew Somali had police..do they have a problem with their pirates and can't arrest them and release about 350 hostages they are still holding?
Torture along with interrogation, fair trial then shot.
Earnest Lee Saddened you doubt we have Osama's DNA, but you believe we threw his carcass in the ocean, way to go "thinker".
John, maybe the Grand Ayatollah of the Somali pirates is their chief of police...
If you read it that way, fine romilio. Got any proof any of it is true? None was given to America.
Including NATO's friends in Libya?
Just a hypothetical.
Osama Bin Laden = If Valuable Intelligence, then captured alive, DNA sample taken, currently on an Intelligence Ship (Black Ship) locked in a cage sailing around the Mediterranean in big circles. When no longer useful, shot and dumped. If USN SEALs "accidentally killed" OBL, then their careers over.
Osama Bin Laden = If not valuable Intelligence, shot, killed and dumped.
In both cases President Obama distances himself from Mission until successful as not to endanger the Office of the President and his Political Career. The scapegoats if a failure would be the Mission Commander and On Scene Commander.
Bury each and everyone of them with pork meat!
It's not difficult to take a DNA sample and feed photos through facial recognition programs. It also tends to help when Al-Queda themselves confirm the deaths. If that's not good enough for you, you probably wont ever be satisfied anyway so why should we pander to you?
Pro life Activoist - Given your tag, your post made me chuckle.
Al-Qaida has been proven by modern medical research to be more hazardous to your health than smoking AIDS cigarettes cured with plutonium.
Still not as deadly as getting chained to a chair and being force-fed Justin Bieber songs, though.
This is what needs to happen to all of Al-Quaeda, if it is even real. Slash and burn every person who claims affiliation with this BOGUS organization.
Expo-diter Bogus means fictitious, not real; do you think Al-Qaeda is not real?
Vital romilio, one slang adjective. Any thought to the rest of the comment?
Expo-diter,
So you are going to "Slash and burn" the over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide that are supporting the Worldwide Islamic Military (aka Jihadists, Terrorists) thru Mandatory Islamic Tithes (see post#1.17 as to what the Mandatory Islamic Tithes are).
Expo-diter
98% of Muslims think that was a pretty ignorant statement. Have you ever even met a Muslim? Thats like saying that you and every other american support the works of the unabomber, lee harvey oswald, a john wils booth
david: Are 1.5 billion Muslims members of Islamic militant groups?
now that's the way to handle these scumbags....
ow If they would just do the same to American terrorists like bush, cheney, rice, powell, etc. etc. If they can accuse and kill one side without a hearing or trial then what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Ken, it seems you forgot about the most recent terrorist attack on Yemen approved by the current administration, so you must believe that Gates, Clinton and Obama should be included?
Uh folks this is Somalia we are talking about where truth is some what debatable and at times purchasable. The rush to pay the sizable reward offered for this rats capture/demise should be restrained until verified.
Agreed.
Knowing that US intelligence agencies would require significant evidence to confirm identity, why would they just "bury the corpse"?
Dig it up, put it on ice, let "verifiable" science prove its who they say it is, then we can talk reward.
@Southern
Ditto; isn't this the same country that brought us 'Blackhawk Down' and piracy as a source of income? Any modern forensics should be able to verify without much time involved.
I'd like to know the $5M is going for the right card in the deck.
The article said they dug him back up, after burying him, to get DNA and to take pictures. Sort of an after- thought that they may need to prove it was him. I am really having trouble swallowing this line of bull.
There won't be a reward paid to anyone. It was a police action that killed him. That's there job. If someone would have tipped the police off that he was coming, and he got killed or captured, then the reward would have gone to the informant. Like with OBL the seals don't get a reward, maybe a big promotion.
Al-Qaida can continue to put on a happy jihad face for the cameras but I'm not fooled, they are losing and losing badly.
Not really losing. As you kill one you get two or more volunteers that want to become an "Islamic Superstar".
Inside Al Qaeda
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/04/inside-al-qaeda.html
Also see post #1.17 about volunteering yourself for the Jihad as a Mandatory Islamic Tithe.
add to post#7.1
READ ALL 7 PAGES OF THE LINK of Post#7.1, their motive(s) for joining Al Quada is stated.
it takes seven pages to write "they're poor and stupid"?
David they will never be gone, but for the overall story they are being beaten in their leadership, you are right about the recruits because there will always be ignorant youths willing to blow themselves to kingdom come, but regardless you do not win a war by taking potshots. They will fool themselves into believing in a victory once we have become tired with these potshots and leave but not before ripping apart there leadership in their jihadist organizations to keep them from putting together any sort of competent schemes for at least a decade. Then it'll just repeat itself. As far as I have seen the western countries always seem to be brought back into conflict in the ME every decade or so, think of it as a weeding if you could call it that. War is human and human is war basically, there will always be one where there is the other.
Well I guess we should believe the Somali police...no liars in Africa are there?
Only in Washington D.C.
We can trust the leaders of Pakistan and Somalia. Right....
Vague report. This stinks as much as the supposed death of OBL.
Wow. Back to what I posed above. Al-Zawahiri himself confirmed OBL's death, members of Congress have seen the proof, but there are going to be those (mostly President Obama haters) who are still going to doubt it. You could have seen his body, the DNA proof, hell, WENT on the mission with SeAL team 6 and watched him get shot and you will still call into question whether it was actually him.
That's a little over the top Cappy since we are talking about Somalis and the Somalis Government. Now if you want to continue to compare the WH and the current administration with the Somalis go ahead but let's all hope the current administration is just a tad bit more ethical.
Cappy, this is a different terrorist and we haven't see any proof, only the word of Somali Police! Would you pay somebody for mowing your lawn without checking outside the window to see if it was actually done? I HOPE it was him, but we need verification before we start paying out big bucks! Stay focused!
Exactly! Maybe we should pay Michael Moore or Oliver Stone to make a movie about it. It would have to be true then! ...wouldn't it?
All because Cappy decided it. Fine Cappy. Repeat your alleged fact. Looks more like an accusation you can't back up to a few people, but you decide what you have to.
really.
now you want to see osama bin ladens death certificate.
so... just out of curiousity... how many of you think hitler's dead? do any of you believe that suicide-in-a-bunker-with-a-hot-chick story?
would it help if i told you osama bin laden was actually killed by space aliens that fired a death ray from the arc of the covenant?
would that make it more believable?
There are always going to be conspiracy theorists. Even if they saw the body themselves they still wouldn't believe it. OBL's death was confirmed by his own people and yet some still think he's alive somewhere.
Al-Queda thrives on publicity as much as they do their terror acts, if this new guy doesn't release a video saying he's still alive within a couple weeks, that should be all the confirmation you need.
Rack 'em up.
What? No lengthy, expensive trial?
I'm thinking: What? No elaborate ceremony to clean the body and make him the martyr that he wanted to be, and then spend tons of cash to drive an aircraft carrier to the undisclosed location to gently lower his Hell-bound corpse into the ocean? How inhumane! Remind me to not die in Africa.
Washee, washee!
You don't have a trial unless you plead not guilty. These mental cases brag and tell the world they are guilty. All they would have is a sentence hearing. Like with OBL, that can be done and the sentence carried out in short order. Isn't it wonderful how fast the justice system can work without lawyers.
why would you "drive an aircraft carrier to an undisclosed location" to throw a body off it?
you thinkin somebody's gonna swim out there and grab it before it sinks? have you ever actually seen an ocean before?
some of these posts are hilarious if you actually read em and think about em.
Vague, suspicious report. This stinks as bad as the supossed death of OBL.
OBL is not dead. Ur correct basquard, binny probably lives with JIM MORRISON somwhere in southern france..they get along famously..ur post stinks as bad as the rotten cheese da french make. Nothing vague about that.
jim morrison is dead.
osama bin laden hangs out with andy kaufman in atlantic city.
they both make a decent living as elvis impersonators these days.
I wouldn't be surprised if, when the Somali Police collect the reward, they split it with Fazul himself! Then, nobody is trying to kill him anymore because he's already "dead".
Exactly
NO WAY Uncle is payin w/out proof fellas. His head on a stake preferably, but there are other, more civilized ways. I have a friend who works for a PMC, and there are western contractors there. Also a CIA presence. Theres no way the Somalis did this on their own.
why on earth do you people think we pay reward money to other governments for capturing criminals?
and there is a way the somalis did this on their own. i happen to know for a fact that the somalis are quite competent at shooting people in the face.
and hell dude... they didnt even know they did it. they had to dig him up and check twice just to figure out who they shot. even the somalis can accidently kill the right guy.
I'm not disputing their claim but how did they confirm his identity? There needs to be more than someone claiming they confirmed these people's deaths. Some sort of international committee that can do the confirming. It would so easy for these people to be said to have died and then continue undetected with their terrorism plots.
But I hope they continue to kill these people and someone does something in this country about the 30 camps they have in Canada near our border. The present administration sure isn't and they put the ones in this country right up on this side of our border in Detroit Mich!
You're intriguing me with these al-quieda camps in Canada near the US border. Can you provide some sort of evidence to back up that claim? I mean I would love to believe every random internet person, but I need something from some credible source.
I'd be interested as well to see a credible source for this. Considering I live like 40 miles from the border.
"Last" doesnt appear to be the type to concern himself with facts and proof. He should grab his tin foil hat and get to his meeting.
Credible source? For nonsense?
Don't laugh at Last, lets hear what he has to say. Now, Last, you bring up a nice point, honey. I was wondering if this kind of scenario you are concerned with has happened in the past? Could you please cite a verifiable case of a faked death to collect reward money and hide the terrorist on the international scene , honey? Thank you.
Yeah, its called JSOC. They are there, and a whole lotta places we may never know about.
Al-Qaeda doesn't need "camps" to brainwash young people. Those are merely for propaganda purposes. Have you seen the hilarious videos of the training these wannabes go through? My high school gym class was tougher.
its not called the jsoc. jesus christ, man.
the jsoc is the joint special operations command. they're americans.
the jsoc are the guys that killed bin laden.
Given the location and who is reporting and moreover, the WAY it was handled, I seriously doubt that this occurred.. This is a paid cover up.
Somalia has police?
...when the bribe is big enough.....
That's exactly what I thought...Police? what a stretch!
I know, right? It would be nice if they could control the piracy off their shores so that we and our allies don't have to. Not to mention thanks a lot for the help back in 1993 when our blackhawks went down and Somali mobs murdered and mutilated the corpses of our service-members. @#% Somalia.
@jerryAmerica
Not to mention thanks a lot for the help back in 1993 when our blackhawks went down and Somali mobs murdered and mutilated the corpses of our service-members. @#% Somalia.
Americans also killed 800 civilians in that day and those were angry, we were not all against the americans but things turned the worst somehow.
A believe it or not story ... not! Produce the picture of the corpse. Explain the shooting, rather than detaining him, why no DNA samples to prove it was actually him. To many unanswered questions, not enough evidence, case closed!
Actually, case still open!
Did no one read the article. After burying him, they dug him up to get DNA and take pictures, supposedly. Read the article.
We have a big enough problem with wild boars in this country to bury all of Al-Qaida with. Lets start doing that!
We bury them, why? do you think everyone from the World trade Center remains were found? Do you think there families has this satisfaction!
I say we cover them with Wild Boar end trails and let them rot in the Somali Desert Sun. Or Bury them with a Toilet over top so any one can come and "Pay there respects!"
We should get some mileage out of that one! This is there fight and that should bring them out of the shadows for a fight or get them to think about ever raising a hand to ...anyone!
End trails? Didn't you mean entrails?
Im pretty sure he meant entrails, it was a simple mistake. At least he did NOT make the common error of spelling Toilet with a lowercase "t". On the otherhand, this poster should learn the difference between "there" and "their". On the other hand Sarah Palin is very successful.
Maybe he meant it was the end of the trail for terrorists, like in the Western Movies!:-)
end trails? perhaps entrails ?
I always like good news
Good Riddance...................Next. Get Em All
He should have been brought to the US so we could lawyer him up and give him a fair trial so we could determine whether or not he is guilty at a great cost to our taxpayers. NOT!!!!!!!! I kind of like the Somali swift justice system. Very cost effective. And the message it sends!!!!! And don't forget, do like the Chinese, bill the family for the bullet!
Well we could put them on a new twist on putting them on a trial. Let the lawyers join them.
New Trial Process would work this way: Somewhere between Guantanamo and terrorist's home country. We simply let them go or drop them off. Unfortunately, they are in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, but they are in control of their own fate. In fact, if Bush was in office, we could create a policy stating if person is lost at sea, so is the paperwork about him.
Damn obama thinks our forefathers meant a fair trial for everyone and torture is part of freedom. NOT.
The Trial: If you can make it to shore, your a free man. Stiff push to their back, as the crew chants. SWIM. SWIM. SWIM. Good luck.
Next.
NEXT!!
Keep on trucking Obama and more too the US Armed Forces and thank you.
This one wasn't Obama or our Armed Forces, try reading the articles before you comment.
"Keep on trucking", though, is a very timely cultural reference. What happened, fell asleep for 40 years?
Yeah! "Truckin'" was by the Grateful Dead! Maybe Jerry Garcia killed him! Oh wait, he's dead!
Remember, the report said he had $40, 000 cash on him. Let's see........Big Bucks on Person+Fishy Foreigner+Trigger Happy Greedy Border Guards=Big Party @ the local watering hole where the guards hang out.
The really FISHY part about it is,,,, He had $40,000.00 on him and the 'SHOOTING' officers did not take it??????
Now that is the UNBELIEVABLE part to me....
no corpse no reward, freaking scumbags who say so, never happened until the body is identified, ok, are we stupid?
We are. Very stupid.
Frisking 6yr old girls and cant have toothpaste. What's all that security cost us? (result is they still get on our planes.)
Airline Security Plan: If you try, you're going to get your ass kicked by the people on the plane. If you succeed, that's all the lives you get.
Just saved $160 billion in just one move and didn't need to "Pat" your junk to do it. Somebody break this down for Sarah so we don't Gotcha! her.
God forbid it should happen again. Im wit you on this. Im taking YOU down with me, no talking, you know wats up, ur gonna go, i say go down swinging. Never again.
Al Qaeda Bombers Learn from Drug Smugglers (NOT detectable by Body Scanners)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/28/eveningnews/main5347847.shtml?tag=pop
Known National Security Threat the over 23 Million Illegal Aliens (Loyal Citizens of another Nation) in the US forced to cooperate with the "Terrorists" by the Mexican Drug Lords (Eastern European Mobs and Russian Mob) or their relatives at their Nation are murdered. Previously to take care of the known National Security Threat President Eisenhower conducted Operation Wetback to apprehend and deport millions of Illegal Aliens in the US.
Let's see how this story adds up: Suspicious Foreigner with $40,000 cash on him+Trigger Happy Border Guards=Big Party @ the watering hole where the border guards hang out. These are fishy stories at best from that part of the world.
Or there was more than $40,000 cash. And he paid them off (more than $40,000 each) and gave them a finger or piece of skin (for DNA) and then they let him go.
US must have a complete body for confirmation. If anyone is going to get a reward.