So, he would rather people be homeless? Wonder if his house is still standing? As to a trailer remaining a few years from now? He's lucky if the town lets him in the area a few years from now. Jerk!
Now, why on earth didn't the Mayor and his City Council pass a law banning tornadoes? Then they wouldn't need the FEMA trailors. <sarcasm-in case you couldn't tell>
Sounds like the Mayor wants to be the Mayor of a much-smaller town in the future, after everyone who can't live in a FEMA trailer until their new house is built end-up leaving town. I might think that the local business community would be afraid of loosing the customers. Double-wide trailers are OK but not single-wide? How about allowing a temporary waiver of 18 months so that most everyone who is affected can get rebuilt in that time?
I'd bet a million dollars that this is some matter of foolish pride...i'm just guessing he's a Republican. He probably shot his mouth off about all of those lazy folks living in FEMA trailers after Katrina and he doesn't want to eat crow, or the tornado conveniently didn't hit any voters in his base.
So...does a Governor have the power to bitch slap a mayor in the interests of the people?
The Mayor has come under the spell of the Season of the Mean. People who are controlled by the Season of the mean are heartless, cold, lovers of power, money and Blindly follow faulty Republican't Values of the No, the Cut Cut Cut, and "If I can do it so can you" (never mind your confined to bed because your back was broke years ago) and Throw Grandma in the street.
I wonder how this Mayor sleeps at night? Oh I forgot, those who suffer from the Season of the Mean have no heart and could care less about their fellow Human Beings.
Its time for the citizens of this Alabama town to recall this poor excuse for a human being.
I'd bet a million dollars that this is some matter of foolish pride...i'm just guessing he's a Republican.
really? i would have guessed a democrat seeing how it was a republican who initiated the trailers for the katrina victims. personally it doesnt matter either way what side of the fence the guy stands on, he's still a pos.
Scott has heard all the complaints, and he isn't apologizing. He said he doesn't want run-down mobile homes parked all over town years from now.
It's temporary housing, he can easily make it so that they are only there for a certain amount of time, but instead he's allowing his people to suffer because of aesthetic reasons. What a jerk, too bad they all don't take there tents down by his own house and park there for a bit.
The age old saying of "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" comes into play. Those that are given waivers will want extensions. Those that didn't get waivers this time will want some kind of waiver at some other time. As soon as he starts making exemptions and exceptions to the laws, it will be the beginning of the decline.
This law isn't something he just came up with. He learned from the mistakes of other cities. Those trailers were meant to be temporary housing and some obviously think more than five years is "temporary".
This is a plumb-perfect example of how a people are blindsided and their attention to what truly matters is so easily diverted from rational thinking when it comes to benefitting their fellow citizens for the good of all. Rather than being concerned about the welfare of these displaced families and seeing to it they are taken care of and given shelter from the elements, people spin-off in ridiculous political tirades about political party affiliations.
One might be able to see some reasoning behind this mayor's decision if it were based on some kind of sensible logic but logic appears to escape him entirely. Perhaps if there was a concern over the health hazards found previously in the construction of FEMA trailers such as high levels of formaldehyde and other toxins, he might have a valid point, but that is not the foundation of his objection. Clearly this mayor sounds more interested in how their town will appear in an issue of Better Homes & Gardens! He's acting like a moron... A moron that was voted into office by the very citizens he now appears hellbent on making suffer even further than they already have.
It would behoove all concerned to set aside the political BS and address the issue of removing their problematic mayor from office, regardless of whatever political party he belongs to. Stupidity does not recognize any particular party. It's an equal opportunity employer.
really? i would have guessed a democrat seeing how it was a republican who initiated the trailers for the katrina victims. personally it doesnt matter either way what side of the fence the guy stands on, he's still a pos.
FEMA initiated the trailers for Katrina victims; it's what they are supposed to do no matter who's heading the agency. FEMA is working so far in all of the tornado hit areas it seems. This move is pure politics...
Because as Scott stubbornly points out, a once-ignored Cordova ordinance bans single-wide trailers in town. Scott now points to that ordinance as if it were a gun to his head.
"Jack Scott ain't sayin' nothin', the ordinance speaks for itself," the mayor told reporter Val Walton this week. "I ain't said s---."
But the mayor -- whose police department and city offices are themselves housed in temporary FEMA single-wides -- really has said a whole bunch of ... well let's just call it mess.
Scott has heard all the complaints, and he isn't apologizing. He said he doesn't want run-down mobile homes parked all over town years from now.
Complete cop-out.
Why not use the following: "FEMA trailers contain high levels of formaldehyde which can "cause breathing problems for children, the elderly or people who already have respiratory problems", has mold, and in some trailers, gas leaks.
And, maybe have the Cordova folks ask what FEMA did with their mobile "health hazards" parked in lots after Katrina.
The government spent more than $2 billion on FEMA trailers with hazardous levels of formaldehyde, and now has dumped more than 103,000 former FEMA trailers on the market despite proven problems with formaldehyde, mold and even gas leaks.
Typical government operation. Purchase junk which can make the public extremely sick or even a safety hazard then turn around and sale the "junk" trailers to the public.
Obviously "The Thinker" and their comment are a result of a loveless life and a heartless, half-form of a human being who has learned nothing in life other than hate and selfishness. Sadly, they do not know what life with compassion and a earnest respect for your fellow man can do to a person that makes life meaningful and satisfying. "The Thinker" must be a very lonely person. Pitiful, to say the least.
The problem I have with turning a town into run down temporary housing years from now is that it affects the individuals and families who do decide to rebuild and have to live next to the ones who have found "temporary" as being good enough.
I hope the mayor sticks to his principles and continues to enforce the law that was enacted years ago. It wasn't as if the people weren't aware of the law. They just thought that it would never affect them. There are many people who do not realize that Alabama gets quite a few tornadoes each year.
so much for the thinker. next you would be saying that he should hand out code enforcement fines because their houses are laying all over their yards and their grass is not being cut.
It blows me away how short sighted most of the people posting here seem to be. When MY home was destroyed by a tornado here in NC I had this thing called INSURANCE. Yes, insurance. IMMEDIATELY I was put up in a motel and offered money to accommodate me. Didnt need and still dont need a FEMA trailer. Personally, I dont want my new rebuilt home sitting next to a trailer when I move in. This would mean Id lose tens of thousands of dollars in this thing called equity. Any politician who made a decision to cost me that much money would certainly feel my wrath come election time.
Granted, the mayor COULD compromise and set up a trailer park on the outskirts of town,(I have this feeling thats what most of them were living in to begin with), then just disband the trailer park at a later date. This wouldnt effect most homeowner's property values.
I know this may come as news to most of you, but the neighborhood a home is in usually dictates its value, and most people WILL pay more for a good neighborhood. A neighborhood flooded with FEMA trailers say 3 years from now, would almost certainly be worth substantially less than a comparable neighborhood WITHOUT trailers. Lets face it, most people dont work their butts off to aspire to live in a trailer park.
Since HOMEOWNERS are usually the ones who pay the vast majority of taxes, I can see the mayor protecting their interests above all others.
And hey, if you work hard, save wisely, and make good financial decisions, EVEN YOU can go buy a home right now. What could be more democratic than that? PS, if you do buy yourself a home someday, make sure to put insurance on it. That way you wont need a Government handout if catastrophe strikes.
@the (half-witted) thinker: You might want to do just a modicum of research to put things in perspective before you open your mouth and stick your foot in it. Cordova was already nearly dead before the storm hit it. Parking a few FEMA trailers isn't going to drag down anybody's property values. Nobody is going to be rebuilding McMansions there - because nobody there was living in a McMansion before.
@GIJOE: So, where do you live? Cottonade? (If so, you're no "GI." You're an officer. And we'll just leave it at that.) Apparently you missed the articles a week ago about how lots of people in this part of the world don't have insurance for a couple of reasons. 1) They may be dirt poor and living in a house that has been paid off for years. Given the choice of paying homeowners insurance or getting medication or food, they tend to opt for the latter. 2) They don't have the choice because their house is so old or so low in value that no insurance company will issue a policy on it. See recommendation to your friend above. Do a little research before you open your mouth. Cordova, AL is not Cottonade or Raleigh or whatever McMansion-filled suburb you live in in NC.
Wow Miker. You seem to have some serious pent up hostility issues against people who pay their bills. If all we were talking about were people who fell into the 2 categories you outlined, I might be inclined to feel differently. But, from what I can see, feel, smell, and touch, those 2 groups represent only a small portion of the people I was addressing. I dont have to research anything. I can see it with my own two eyes. The vast majority of the people looking for a handout after the catastrophe here, were the same people looking for a handout before the catastrophe.
And really, Im not a mean spirited person. I dont bitch or belly ache any about the smack down they(the financially less fortunate), put on my,(youre exactly right,0-6), paycheck on the 1st and 15th. I mean youll never hear me go on and on about the inherent unfairness in graduated tax brackets. Cant you at least cut me a little slack on my not wanting them to destroy my home's equity on top of that?
Sir, if you'll bother to look - take just a couple of minutes to do a quick Google search because I am not going to give this to you in a PowerPoint presentation - you would see that putting up several dozen FEMA trailers in Cordova, AL would not drag down anyone's property value. That was my point. Not a lot of O6s living in Cordova - now or ever. So, none of your buddies would have to suffer the inconvenience of living next door to a FEMA trailer belonging to someone who chose to continue living in one of those even if they chose to do so for several years.
The average value of occupied dwellings in Cordova, AL is something like $42,000.
I have no problem with people who pay their bills. But, I also have no problem helping someone out when their house gets destroyed. Of course, by the time they get done with you at CAS3, it seems that most of you think that having your house destroyed means the propane tank on the gas grill is empty.
LOL@CAS3. Ive spent more than my fair share of nights sleeping on dirt that would have made a night in a tent in an open field with noone shooting at me seem like only a dream.( reference to the media picture of the guy in the tent in Alabama just having it soooo bad).
I too have no problem with helping out those in need. I personally would be all for giving aid in the form of motel vouchers,(just like the motel I lived in while my house was destroyed), or (as I stated previously), setting up a FEMA trailer park on the outskirts of town.
If youve had any dealings with federal bureaucracies like say FEMA, Im sure you discovered that its seldom that easy though. Common sense within a bureaucracy is anything but common. Statistically, if these trailers are allowed into that town, it will have the same effect as the trailers that have been deposited into other American towns following a catastrophe. Its like once you open that can of worms, you have to take all the crap that comes with it.
Im just saying that theres two sides to this issue. Perhaps only one is right. Perhaps both sides are equally right. These decisions will ultimately be decided by folks much smarter than you or I. I do know FEMA trailers decrease property values. I also know that homeowners should expect reasonable accommodations in protecting their home values. Just like in our recent recession, dramatically decreased home values benefit few, and harm many.
Common sense within a bureaucracy is anything but common.
This is exactly why I 1) am not an Army aviator although I had a helicopter license and a couple hundred hours of flight time in twin turbines before I ever enlisted and 2) am no longer in the Army at all. I have a zero-tolerance for BS. But, given that Cordova is a town of barely 2000 people, one would hope that they could avoid the usual BS and cut to the chase.
My suspicion is that there are no motels of any consequence within miles of Cordova (I could be wrong, but I do live north of B'ham and have some familiarity with the area). This is a town where the mayor actually considered opening two strip mines a form of "urban renewal." Main Street no longer exists as a viable commercial entity. It's just not a place where the real estate rules you're used to are in play.
My hope is that this issue will be decided not necessarily by anyone smarter than either of us or even both of us together but by the people of Cordova. That would be my idea of democratic.
(Do keep in mind that while the guy in the tent probably isn't being shot at, he may well have to sleep with a gun in hand to keep looters from stealing his stuff. Amazingly, that crap started the day after the storms. So, he's not necessarily enjoying a peaceful camping vacation out there.)
In 2004 after Hurricane Charlie ripped through Punta Gorda, Fl., leaving thousands homeless, a FEMA trailer park was set up on the outskirts of town by the small airport. Hundreds of single wide trailers were set up and after about 3 years, the entire "villiage" was gone. People forget that after a disater, there are so many displaced people, that the builders could not rebuild fast enough for the demand. Leaving people in tents is heartless and there are ways to use the FEMA housing till people get back on their feet. I bet this mayor is a Republican.
MIght not be a good way to ask this, however,,I have to wonder just who will profit from the stance the mayor is taking ? In politics, its always about money to some one. Those people need help and need it now..some of the trailers may actually be better than some of the homes lost..however, these trailer are not meant to be there forever..and if the mayor and his friends in politics were concerned with a possible re-election he might be more understanding. I can see the point of not wanting run down trailers becoming a problem later,,but these people need shelter now..not when this mayor desides to do something really helpful...which it seems has not been done as yet.
Personally I think the Mayor, if he really wants to look people in the eye and say he's comfortable with this situation, should donate the use of his house and live in a tent himself. Let's see how long he'll like having to use the bathroom outside and no air conditioning along with confined spaces. Personally I think temporary FEMA trailers won't being down 'the housing market' (like some people are concerned with) more then a tent city will.
@the thinker: that figure was generous and included the LOT - not just the structure. Check out wikipedia or any of a number of city-data type websites. I just don't know how it could be any plainer - FEMA trailers are not going to hurt that town even if they stayed there permanently. Not dogging Cordova, AL, but it is what it is. A very small, very poor southern town whose glory days ended long before this tornado hit. Apparently the mayor just doesn't realize it. He seems to think he's going to turn this place into some upscale bedroom community for Birmingham and that the trailers will hurt his chances of making that happen. Most people tend to think the strip mines he approved (or pushed) pretty much eliminate any chance of this town ever becoming much more than what it is now.
Sounds like it's time for a recall election in that little town!
I understand zoning to get away from single wide mobile homes -- they can get run down quickly (but then so can double wides).
HOWEVER, this is not normal circumstances -- these are citizens of that town who lost everything! To deny them temporary housing is just plain cruel! I'm betting the mayor didn't lose HIS house, or if he did he has someplace to go.
These people don't need handouts from FEMA or Obama. It's important to respect the laws of the city, waivers are just an excuse to help those in need. Maybe Obama should have thought about spending more time here than on vacation!
Uh chocolatekat, I believe he was being facetious--read the full post? And his "what a maroon" was directed at the mayor (I think).
These southern states and these Republicans damn the Federal government with every breath, then demand help when disaster comes. Screw 'em. You want to recover from a disaster, then maybe you ought to raise your own taxes and raise your own state run recovery. Generally speaking, red states receive more money than they contribute, so maybe they ought to support their "state's right" to take care of their own!
Sorry, but maybe someone ought to shove their anti-government rhetoric back down their throats.
Thanks FC, I was pretending to spread the gospel of Faux news. Yes, I was calling the Mayor a maroon :-) I thought the disclaimer #not intended .... would make my point.
I think you confuse him with the previous pres who set a record for most vacation days ever taken by a sitting President. By the way , FEMA was around when Hurricaine Andrew hit. It was not the brain child of "Brownie"
Don't care if mayor is Republican, Democrat, or other -- he's totally uncaring, a jerk & a fool who doesn't want to get re-elected. The Alabama governor or county officials or judge should step in and override him on an emergency basis. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some other law someplace that this guy is violating by impeding emergency relief.
I highly doubt that the mayor stands alone on this issue. Who knows, perhaps he will get re-elected because people tend to have short memories and/or vote strictly along party lines. Interestingly, they vote that way even if the policies the candidate embraces is not in their best interest.
@Zach - Sadly, all too true. I wish people would take the time and make the effort to actually understand what a) they're talking about on these blogs, and b) what they're voting for.
Tea Party - I'm talking about you. (As if that wasn't obvious)
50 bucks says Scott's a republican, because only a republican can be that callous to the average American.
In any event, I think it's only fair if everyone who lost their home in the tornado move in with Scott - I'm sure he'll be willing to put you all up until you can get your homes re-built!
50 bucks says you'd have a cow if anyone suggested that only a black person would be caught looting after a tornado or that only an idiot would have moved into a tornado belt. . . Broad generalizations are seldom productive, are they?
2000 angry residents....one idiot....whatever happened to good old tar and feathering? But,then again, I can see the mayor's point. The millions of tourists visiting Cordova this year won't want to see those ugly little trailers. They will be coming to see all the houses off their foundations and people sleeping out in their yards. Sure beats Disneyland.
If another storm comes through there those tents aren`t going to be very safe shelter,there might be a lot of dead people after the next storm or tornado.
If a tornado goes through an area with a multitude of single wides there usually an empty field with asphalt roads and cement driveways left behind a nice tent might be a better option
Yes, nerves get very raw in those situations. I could see it getting dangerous for him. Also, towns that are already dying can be finished off rather quickly with stupid decisions like this. People won't be coming back once they leave, esp under an apparent tea bagger type. There is simply no money for the back and forth of it. The mayor should grow some common sense.
It makes me sick to see stupidity in motion. Is this guy serious? WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO GO YOU IDIOT????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on man, haven't we come far enough with our intelligence to comprehend when scores of people have no roof over their heads and FEMA has a roof ready for them that you let these victims have a break? Are you going to put a roof over their heads mayor????? ARE YOU???? What is your brilliant plan? How many guest rooms do you have? Maybe if you were a better human being you would look at the situation that is actually happening right now in front of your narrow minded face instead of what may happen in a few years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a small child and I tell you what; if I had lost everything there is no way I would let some ass hole tell me my child can't have a safe place to go. Why don't you do your job mayor??? Help these people now, then help them get their lives back together and then hopefully they can get out of their temporary homes, which I'm sure they have no desire to be in any longer than necessary anyway! Get it together man! If I were you I wouldn't be so worried about judgement on this Earth but you remember that God sees all and eventually, everyone's bill comes due!!!
Why do they even need trailers? Their homeowners insurance should cover the cost of rental while their homes are rebuilt. Mine would do that. I'd just live in an apartment, rent paid by insurance, while my house is rebuilt again paid by insurance.
Of course, if these people didn't have insurance then there's the proof that the Mayor is right and these freaks are irresponsible worms who would let trailers get run down all over the place.
Meangene......'Why do they even need trailers?'....because everything got destroyed dummy....everything.....hospital.....hotels.....tornadoes don't discriminate.
I've made several insurance claims and never had a problem because I didn't cheap out and go with the lowest bidder. I'm a firm believer in the principle that you get what you pay for.
This is Obama's America, where insurance isn't optional anymore. The people who didn't have any should be fined for their irresponsible behavior.
How many "natural disasters" you been in? I did not go cheap-have good insurance and was paid promptly and fairly; however, check made to me and mortgage company (BOA). Mortgage company will not send money back. One month after storm and house still no work done on house. (paid my mortgage promptly for 15+ years. I was told get the work done and let contractor wait for his money! I will NOT let another person suffer because of BOA greed.
Yes Meangene-3334839 your right Obama sent the tornadoes everywhere so small mindless trolls can blame him for every bad occurrence happening on this planet.
Why do they even need trailers? Their homeowners insurance should cover the cost of rental while their homes are rebuilt. Mine would do that. I'd just live in an apartment, rent paid by insurance, while my house is rebuilt again paid by insurance
Great idea. Been in many small towns recently? I suspect the number of rentals (especially after a tornado) would be -- three??? If that. Just where do you think these apartments are going to come from? Oh yeah ... you DIDN'T think!
The mayor is thinking of the future of his town. I don't think that completely disallowing trailers is a great idea--if anything, allow them for a restricted amount of time --say, 18 months. But, in the long haul, tax money would be wasted in putting up trailer homes for them to keep and live in for as long as they like. They are genenerally less safe in flood zones and tornado zones than a traditional home. Even the traditional homes should be reinvented for the areas they are being built, to be accomodated for the region, and its weather and terrain. If people want to desparately live in a flood zone, there should be options or even mandates for these people to get reasonably priced homes that float (which do exist, they have them in holland) or homes in tornado alley that are half in the ground, half above, safe rooms and what not in areas where tornados hit hard. Thinking ahead will save money in the end. One style of home doesn't work for every region, yet we see cookiecutter homes scattered across the country built in a similar manner.
He may be right in thinking that people would be likely to remain in the trailer homes and not leave them after years. It would be more wise to put people in hotels, motels, etc, than trailer homes, so that they remain motivated in rebuilding their homes with a stronger structure. And if they can't rebuild because they didn't take out insurance policies for their homes, then it's a hard lesson learned. They will have to apply for assistance--wait a long time. But living in a trailer home in that area, would not be wise.
The mayor is thinking of the future of his town. I don't think that completely disallowing trailers is a great idea--if anything, allow them for a restricted amount of time --say, 18 months
No, he's not. If he WERE thinking of the future of his town, he'd be thinking of ways to KEEP people in the town.
It would be more wise to put people in hotels, motels, etc, than trailer homes, so that they remain motivated in rebuilding their homes with a stronger structure.
Oh sure ... but where are you going to FIND the hotels, motels, etc.??? Most small towns only have one or two -- at the MOST -- and chances are pretty good in this case, those would have been damaged as well.
Also, how do you know the ORIGINAL homes didn't have a "strong structure". I don't care HOW well your home is built -- a tornado will destroy it.
Insurance aside - maybe there is nothing to rent. Especially if a lot of that town and neighboring ones were damaged. People have to live near to their jobs and schools, etc, they can't just move at the drop of a hat (or funnel cloud). Have some compassion, man.
I'm glad you have good insurance, but the point made above is a good one - you are one of the lucky who could afford a good policy and get the insurance to pay up. Best of luck to you in the current Mississippi River floods too.
I would just like to say, I have lived in my home all my life born here, my mom and dad and their mom and dad and so on, I went threw Katrina, then contacted insurance they were quick on the draw started to rebuild then came Rita the insurance was a little slower getting to the problem then came Ike and they dropped me. Left me to foot the bill, now my point is I paid all my premiums even when i slept in a tent also refused government help because i thought i have insurance no need for the government help, Now once again i have rebuilt my home so because i was dropped from my insurance company you call us freaks, worms, and irresponsible how about a little HUMAN COMPASSION for your fellow man. I hope you never have to call on your fellow man's help in a disaster they may choose to turn the other cheek so to speak.
Instead of responding with emotions, I have some questions.
The people needing those trailers have a plan to be out of those trailers within 18 mos? So if the people needing that temporary housing plan to rebuild, or are waiting for rental vacancies, etc. I would not object. If the plan is to stay in those trailers with no plan, that is not an acceptable plan. Think about setting up temporary sewer facilities, water, etc. The town only has so much money and thus they need to use that money carefully.
The policy was in place to begin with. It isn't that he just made this decision. I can understand the worries since the trailers still exist in NO. As I recall as well, the trailers sparked a lot of controversy with regards to safety. When the next storm comes, should these people in trailers leave to go where?
You are intentionally missing the point. The trailers end up being their home instead of finding a better solution to begin with. Again, look back and remember all the mess with the trailers in NO. Look wherever you live you must have a plan always in the event of a fire, etc. If it means staying with relatives, or moving into town, or moving to a rental, etc. I am not talking about a concrete plan, but Plan A, Plan B, etc. that can be implemented.
If you look at Katrina, people moved to that area, or were born in that area, and they knew the risk. Each year as the hurricane season rolls around everybody needs to have a plan. It might not be great, and it might only be temporary, but again everybody needs a plan. The alternative is to wait on the government to take over and then make the decisions for you.
The problem with the variance is that later at 24 mos. many will still be in those trailers. That mayor knows that. Again, we only need to look at NO.
BTW, many in NO did get compensated for their losses, but they never fixed their homes. Instead, they left with the money leaving neighborhoods blighted. Many went to hotels that got trashed. There is the pretend world, and there is a the real world.
It is complicated. I would not opt for the trailers either. What is sad is how many homes across the US are currently empty and have been more months or years that could be used for temporary housing. The problem is temporary facilities are often trashed.
I don't know the answer, except when push comes to shove, people find their own solutions.
I'm not intentionally missing the point. I think YOU are.
You say you would NOT opt for trailers, but you offer NO other solutions. (And "people find their own solutions" doesn't count!)
Trailers ARE a temporary solution. They are better than being homeless, they are better than being in a tent. They allow people to have a semblance of a normal life while picking up the pieces. Will a small percent abuse them ... probably. No matter WHAT, a small percentage of people will ALWAYS abuse something!
What is sad is how many homes across the US are currently empty and have been more months or years that could be used for temporary housing.
And how is that? You live and work in a small town in Alabama ... so you are to pick up and find temporary housing someplace else? How to you plan to keep a job or rebuild IF YOU ARE NOT LIVING THERE. Please, a bit of common sense.
Storm victims are supposed to live in FEMA housing for no longer than 18 months after a disaster, yet about 260 campers are still occupied by survivors of hurricanes Katrina and Rita on the Gulf Coast last more than five years after those storms. The same thing could happen in Cordova if the city bends it rules to help tornado victims, Scott said.
He does have a point. When he was elected he took an oath to uphold the laws of the town. If He doesn`t uphold the laws then he is derelect in his duties. Maybe the people of the town need to change that law.
the pig styes in NO as you say are there because they will not allow(government) to rebuild there many moved to other areas and rebuilt elsewhere. I live in Louisiana do you or are you just looking at the news shows!
I hope the entire town of 2000 leaves for good, leaving the mayor with an empty non functional town. He is a rat basturd, these people need help NOW not what MAY happen a few years from now. Hopefully most of them had some kind of homeowners insurance and I have no idea what real estate and to cost to rebuild costs there. But I worked for in the insurance industry for more than 25 yrs and every single company paid for temporary housing for people who lost their homes and belongings and were unable to return to their homes for shelter.
I'm betting this dude is republican down to his toenails, he doesn't understand helping people and he would like nothing more than for them to move out of his comunity, I for one say string him up by his gonads.
i agree with that one person. i bet the mayor has a nice place to live out of the weather while the poor people who can barely afford tents are stuck outside this is despicable. Its ridiculous that this is what this country is coming to where is the justice in this.
Wow, "[m]ost of US responsible citizens re-built and sent the damned trailers BACK". If you felt that way about your Federal Government giving you a place to live, maybe you shouldn't have spent one day in it? Of course, it's much easier for you to look that gift horse in the mouth and bitch than to be thankful that your government TRIED to help.
You end your statement with "they NEEDED that housing to rebuild", which is true. And yet you still call it a damned trailer. Screw you and your begrudging thanks for our government's help.
No Corsair, screw you. If you spent 1 second in a "gubmint trailer" you are a f'ing hypocrite. But you accepted that trailer--whether you used it as a domicile or a storage unit is immaterial--you used a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT supplied trailer when you were in need. You are a POS scumbag who used the very government's charity that you "claim" to despise.
Only a heartless person would try to enforce this policy. These people lost everything and came quite close to losing thier own lives. As a Katrina suvivor who was homelss for two months, I can tell you it is a scary feeling when you don't know where you are going to end up. This man should be run out of town. These people need answers about livng arraingements and he is worried about his town looking bad because of it! Well, I haven't been the recently, but I'd be willing to bet that the town isn't looking too great right now. And, they are using the very same trailers to house public buildings.....that is an outrage! I agree, he should be tarred and feathered along with anyone who agrees with his warped attitude .
No, they're not using those very same trailers. FEMA trailers have strings attached from the overbearing Federal Government. Refuse to allow those trailers in and you can escape the web of Federal strings. Letting FEMA in will always make things worse and never better.
Do you know what those FEMA jerks are going to do? They're going to demand electricity hooked up to these trailers, they're going to demand water lines and sewage lines, and waste all of those resources which should be used to repair damage to the OLD utilities, not satisfying some goofy FEMA bureacrat fatass who moves in and takes over in the name of our Messiah Obama.
When the Federal Government offers to help, the answer from anyone with half a brain is NO NO NO FOREVER AND EVER NO DO NOT TRY TO HELP YOU PINKO COMMIES!!
No Rick,he is just a politician. There are old freight containers that people have turned into livable homes. They are cheap and can be turned into permanent,eye-pleasing residences. Houses in many cities are still too high for first time buyers. This is one idea being tried. Maybe someone from there can pass this idea along to FEMA,Mayor,etc. If they have any computers left. Or can use new city services. I am sure they have NEWEST ones! The problem with FEMA trailers,as you may have heard,is they have permanently-dsabled many people who lived in them. They were new and materials emitted toxic chemicals. I would NOT choose to live in one. If one prays,God will provide better than these disease-causing trailers.
All elected officials are elected BY THE PEOPLE--to REPRESENT THE PEOPLE--ALL OF THEM--not just a select few.
This statement: "I don't feel guilty," he said. "I can look anyone in the eye." Is indicative of what a majority of POLITICIANS have become of late. They are only concerned with their constituents who throw large sums of "payoff" money to allow businesses to escape scrutiny and could care LESS about the PEOPLE who put them into office.
This bastard is a sunnuvaBitch and he needs to get a very LOUD AND CLEAR MESSAGE...STARING HIM DIRECTLY TO HIS FACE--LOOKING HIM IN THE EYE: "YOU'RE FIRED YOU F'NG PIG!"
Dirty f'ng mayor! Thinks he's all so powerful and mighty. This man is going to find out real quick (I believe) that he picked the absolutely WRONG SIDE OF THIS ISSUE to take a stand!
What a piece of CHIT!
Sorry for my *french* but this PIG isn't worth language much better--especially after he practically tells all those suffering in his town, "YOU'RE FK'D!" And then defends himself!
True Republican politician using a catastrophe to possibly gain an advantage on properties that might be abandoned by the current owners in the future. The same trailers are being used by the city? The mayor is a typical GOP dictatorial hypocrit.
I can see the Mayors point. But he's still full of it....
lol, winning!
So, he would rather people be homeless? Wonder if his house is still standing? As to a trailer remaining a few years from now? He's lucky if the town lets him in the area a few years from now. Jerk!
Now, why on earth didn't the Mayor and his City Council pass a law banning tornadoes? Then they wouldn't need the FEMA trailors. <sarcasm-in case you couldn't tell>
Sounds like the Mayor wants to be the Mayor of a much-smaller town in the future, after everyone who can't live in a FEMA trailer until their new house is built end-up leaving town. I might think that the local business community would be afraid of loosing the customers. Double-wide trailers are OK but not single-wide? How about allowing a temporary waiver of 18 months so that most everyone who is affected can get rebuilt in that time?
Sometimes it is odd what power does to people!!!
I'd bet a million dollars that this is some matter of foolish pride...i'm just guessing he's a Republican. He probably shot his mouth off about all of those lazy folks living in FEMA trailers after Katrina and he doesn't want to eat crow, or the tornado conveniently didn't hit any voters in his base.
So...does a Governor have the power to bitch slap a mayor in the interests of the people?
Great suggestion to have the mayor host all the homeless folks at his residence. I like it. Wonder if the mayor likes it?
The Mayor has come under the spell of the Season of the Mean. People who are controlled by the Season of the mean are heartless, cold, lovers of power, money and Blindly follow faulty Republican't Values of the No, the Cut Cut Cut, and "If I can do it so can you" (never mind your confined to bed because your back was broke years ago) and Throw Grandma in the street.
I wonder how this Mayor sleeps at night? Oh I forgot, those who suffer from the Season of the Mean have no heart and could care less about their fellow Human Beings.
Its time for the citizens of this Alabama town to recall this poor excuse for a human being.
I think everyone fs should pack their bags and move in with, Scott. I bet he has a mansion.
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really? i would have guessed a democrat seeing how it was a republican who initiated the trailers for the katrina victims. personally it doesnt matter either way what side of the fence the guy stands on, he's still a pos.
It's temporary housing, he can easily make it so that they are only there for a certain amount of time, but instead he's allowing his people to suffer because of aesthetic reasons. What a jerk, too bad they all don't take there tents down by his own house and park there for a bit.
The age old saying of "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" comes into play. Those that are given waivers will want extensions. Those that didn't get waivers this time will want some kind of waiver at some other time. As soon as he starts making exemptions and exceptions to the laws, it will be the beginning of the decline.
This law isn't something he just came up with. He learned from the mistakes of other cities. Those trailers were meant to be temporary housing and some obviously think more than five years is "temporary".
This is a plumb-perfect example of how a people are blindsided and their attention to what truly matters is so easily diverted from rational thinking when it comes to benefitting their fellow citizens for the good of all. Rather than being concerned about the welfare of these displaced families and seeing to it they are taken care of and given shelter from the elements, people spin-off in ridiculous political tirades about political party affiliations.
One might be able to see some reasoning behind this mayor's decision if it were based on some kind of sensible logic but logic appears to escape him entirely. Perhaps if there was a concern over the health hazards found previously in the construction of FEMA trailers such as high levels of formaldehyde and other toxins, he might have a valid point, but that is not the foundation of his objection. Clearly this mayor sounds more interested in how their town will appear in an issue of Better Homes & Gardens! He's acting like a moron... A moron that was voted into office by the very citizens he now appears hellbent on making suffer even further than they already have.
It would behoove all concerned to set aside the political BS and address the issue of removing their problematic mayor from office, regardless of whatever political party he belongs to. Stupidity does not recognize any particular party. It's an equal opportunity employer.
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FEMA initiated the trailers for Katrina victims; it's what they are supposed to do no matter who's heading the agency. FEMA is working so far in all of the tornado hit areas it seems. This move is pure politics...
...or maybe he's just plain stupid.
http://blog.al.com/archiblog/2011/05/alabama_tornadoes_cordova_is_m.html
But the mayor -- whose police department and city offices are themselves housed in temporary FEMA single-wides -- really has said a whole bunch of ... well let's just call it mess.
Complete cop-out.
Why not use the following: "FEMA trailers contain high levels of formaldehyde which can "cause breathing problems for children, the elderly or people who already have respiratory problems", has mold, and in some trailers, gas leaks.
And, maybe have the Cordova folks ask what FEMA did with their mobile "health hazards" parked in lots after Katrina.
Typical government operation. Purchase junk which can make the public extremely sick or even a safety hazard then turn around and sale the "junk" trailers to the public.
Obviously "The Thinker" and their comment are a result of a loveless life and a heartless, half-form of a human being who has learned nothing in life other than hate and selfishness. Sadly, they do not know what life with compassion and a earnest respect for your fellow man can do to a person that makes life meaningful and satisfying. "The Thinker" must be a very lonely person. Pitiful, to say the least.
The problem I have with turning a town into run down temporary housing years from now is that it affects the individuals and families who do decide to rebuild and have to live next to the ones who have found "temporary" as being good enough.
I hope the mayor sticks to his principles and continues to enforce the law that was enacted years ago. It wasn't as if the people weren't aware of the law. They just thought that it would never affect them. There are many people who do not realize that Alabama gets quite a few tornadoes each year.
the non-thinker
so much for the thinker. next you would be saying that he should hand out code enforcement fines because their houses are laying all over their yards and their grass is not being cut.
It blows me away how short sighted most of the people posting here seem to be. When MY home was destroyed by a tornado here in NC I had this thing called INSURANCE. Yes, insurance. IMMEDIATELY I was put up in a motel and offered money to accommodate me. Didnt need and still dont need a FEMA trailer. Personally, I dont want my new rebuilt home sitting next to a trailer when I move in. This would mean Id lose tens of thousands of dollars in this thing called equity. Any politician who made a decision to cost me that much money would certainly feel my wrath come election time.
Granted, the mayor COULD compromise and set up a trailer park on the outskirts of town,(I have this feeling thats what most of them were living in to begin with), then just disband the trailer park at a later date. This wouldnt effect most homeowner's property values.
I know this may come as news to most of you, but the neighborhood a home is in usually dictates its value, and most people WILL pay more for a good neighborhood. A neighborhood flooded with FEMA trailers say 3 years from now, would almost certainly be worth substantially less than a comparable neighborhood WITHOUT trailers. Lets face it, most people dont work their butts off to aspire to live in a trailer park.
Since HOMEOWNERS are usually the ones who pay the vast majority of taxes, I can see the mayor protecting their interests above all others.
And hey, if you work hard, save wisely, and make good financial decisions, EVEN YOU can go buy a home right now. What could be more democratic than that? PS, if you do buy yourself a home someday, make sure to put insurance on it. That way you wont need a Government handout if catastrophe strikes.
@the (half-witted) thinker: You might want to do just a modicum of research to put things in perspective before you open your mouth and stick your foot in it. Cordova was already nearly dead before the storm hit it. Parking a few FEMA trailers isn't going to drag down anybody's property values. Nobody is going to be rebuilding McMansions there - because nobody there was living in a McMansion before.
@GIJOE: So, where do you live? Cottonade? (If so, you're no "GI." You're an officer. And we'll just leave it at that.) Apparently you missed the articles a week ago about how lots of people in this part of the world don't have insurance for a couple of reasons. 1) They may be dirt poor and living in a house that has been paid off for years. Given the choice of paying homeowners insurance or getting medication or food, they tend to opt for the latter. 2) They don't have the choice because their house is so old or so low in value that no insurance company will issue a policy on it. See recommendation to your friend above. Do a little research before you open your mouth. Cordova, AL is not Cottonade or Raleigh or whatever McMansion-filled suburb you live in in NC.
Wow Miker. You seem to have some serious pent up hostility issues against people who pay their bills. If all we were talking about were people who fell into the 2 categories you outlined, I might be inclined to feel differently. But, from what I can see, feel, smell, and touch, those 2 groups represent only a small portion of the people I was addressing. I dont have to research anything. I can see it with my own two eyes. The vast majority of the people looking for a handout after the catastrophe here, were the same people looking for a handout before the catastrophe.
And really, Im not a mean spirited person. I dont bitch or belly ache any about the smack down they(the financially less fortunate), put on my,(youre exactly right,0-6), paycheck on the 1st and 15th. I mean youll never hear me go on and on about the inherent unfairness in graduated tax brackets. Cant you at least cut me a little slack on my not wanting them to destroy my home's equity on top of that?
Sir, if you'll bother to look - take just a couple of minutes to do a quick Google search because I am not going to give this to you in a PowerPoint presentation - you would see that putting up several dozen FEMA trailers in Cordova, AL would not drag down anyone's property value. That was my point. Not a lot of O6s living in Cordova - now or ever. So, none of your buddies would have to suffer the inconvenience of living next door to a FEMA trailer belonging to someone who chose to continue living in one of those even if they chose to do so for several years.
The average value of occupied dwellings in Cordova, AL is something like $42,000.
I have no problem with people who pay their bills. But, I also have no problem helping someone out when their house gets destroyed. Of course, by the time they get done with you at CAS3, it seems that most of you think that having your house destroyed means the propane tank on the gas grill is empty.
LOL@CAS3. Ive spent more than my fair share of nights sleeping on dirt that would have made a night in a tent in an open field with noone shooting at me seem like only a dream.( reference to the media picture of the guy in the tent in Alabama just having it soooo bad).
I too have no problem with helping out those in need. I personally would be all for giving aid in the form of motel vouchers,(just like the motel I lived in while my house was destroyed), or (as I stated previously), setting up a FEMA trailer park on the outskirts of town.
If youve had any dealings with federal bureaucracies like say FEMA, Im sure you discovered that its seldom that easy though. Common sense within a bureaucracy is anything but common. Statistically, if these trailers are allowed into that town, it will have the same effect as the trailers that have been deposited into other American towns following a catastrophe. Its like once you open that can of worms, you have to take all the crap that comes with it.
Im just saying that theres two sides to this issue. Perhaps only one is right. Perhaps both sides are equally right. These decisions will ultimately be decided by folks much smarter than you or I. I do know FEMA trailers decrease property values. I also know that homeowners should expect reasonable accommodations in protecting their home values. Just like in our recent recession, dramatically decreased home values benefit few, and harm many.
This is exactly why I 1) am not an Army aviator although I had a helicopter license and a couple hundred hours of flight time in twin turbines before I ever enlisted and 2) am no longer in the Army at all. I have a zero-tolerance for BS. But, given that Cordova is a town of barely 2000 people, one would hope that they could avoid the usual BS and cut to the chase.
My suspicion is that there are no motels of any consequence within miles of Cordova (I could be wrong, but I do live north of B'ham and have some familiarity with the area). This is a town where the mayor actually considered opening two strip mines a form of "urban renewal." Main Street no longer exists as a viable commercial entity. It's just not a place where the real estate rules you're used to are in play.
My hope is that this issue will be decided not necessarily by anyone smarter than either of us or even both of us together but by the people of Cordova. That would be my idea of democratic.
(Do keep in mind that while the guy in the tent probably isn't being shot at, he may well have to sleep with a gun in hand to keep looters from stealing his stuff. Amazingly, that crap started the day after the storms. So, he's not necessarily enjoying a peaceful camping vacation out there.)
In 2004 after Hurricane Charlie ripped through Punta Gorda, Fl., leaving thousands homeless, a FEMA trailer park was set up on the outskirts of town by the small airport. Hundreds of single wide trailers were set up and after about 3 years, the entire "villiage" was gone. People forget that after a disater, there are so many displaced people, that the builders could not rebuild fast enough for the demand. Leaving people in tents is heartless and there are ways to use the FEMA housing till people get back on their feet. I bet this mayor is a Republican.
MIght not be a good way to ask this, however,,I have to wonder just who will profit from the stance the mayor is taking ? In politics, its always about money to some one. Those people need help and need it now..some of the trailers may actually be better than some of the homes lost..however, these trailer are not meant to be there forever..and if the mayor and his friends in politics were concerned with a possible re-election he might be more understanding. I can see the point of not wanting run down trailers becoming a problem later,,but these people need shelter now..not when this mayor desides to do something really helpful...which it seems has not been done as yet.
Personally I think the Mayor, if he really wants to look people in the eye and say he's comfortable with this situation, should donate the use of his house and live in a tent himself. Let's see how long he'll like having to use the bathroom outside and no air conditioning along with confined spaces. Personally I think temporary FEMA trailers won't being down 'the housing market' (like some people are concerned with) more then a tent city will.
GI JOE, you sound like a true snob, to me. I wonder what Jesus would think of your 'suggestions' or this mayor's behavior?
There's a Tibetan saying that goes - 'There is no honor in politics'. They're onto something there.
But the average FEMA trailer is worth a lot less than the average house before the tornadoes.
And just how many of those FEMA trailer even come close to half of $42K when brand new - let alone after a few years?
@the thinker: that figure was generous and included the LOT - not just the structure. Check out wikipedia or any of a number of city-data type websites. I just don't know how it could be any plainer - FEMA trailers are not going to hurt that town even if they stayed there permanently. Not dogging Cordova, AL, but it is what it is. A very small, very poor southern town whose glory days ended long before this tornado hit. Apparently the mayor just doesn't realize it. He seems to think he's going to turn this place into some upscale bedroom community for Birmingham and that the trailers will hurt his chances of making that happen. Most people tend to think the strip mines he approved (or pushed) pretty much eliminate any chance of this town ever becoming much more than what it is now.
Sounds like it's time for a recall election in that little town!
I understand zoning to get away from single wide mobile homes -- they can get run down quickly (but then so can double wides).
HOWEVER, this is not normal circumstances -- these are citizens of that town who lost everything! To deny them temporary housing is just plain cruel! I'm betting the mayor didn't lose HIS house, or if he did he has someplace to go.
Recall election and camping on the Mayor's front yard in the meantime. I'll bring the marshmallows for roasting!
These people don't need handouts from FEMA or Obama. It's important to respect the laws of the city, waivers are just an excuse to help those in need. Maybe Obama should have thought about spending more time here than on vacation!
#not intended to be a factual statement ;-)
What a maroon.
Vacation? WTH are you talking about. You are talking about Bush, not Obama. Stop listening to Faux news and get the real facts.
It's important to get people in HOUSING.
Maybe this dumb ass mayor "can look anyone in the eye" and tell them no to FEMA
housing, but as a Katrina survivor, I can tell you he would not be looking out of those
eyes for too long.
They would both be black and blue.
LAWS can be changed.
Peoples lives being destroyed is a whole different ball game.
Perhaps this Mayor and some of his pompous civic members will let them move in with them?
Uh chocolatekat, I believe he was being facetious--read the full post? And his "what a maroon" was directed at the mayor (I think).
These southern states and these Republicans damn the Federal government with every breath, then demand help when disaster comes. Screw 'em. You want to recover from a disaster, then maybe you ought to raise your own taxes and raise your own state run recovery. Generally speaking, red states receive more money than they contribute, so maybe they ought to support their "state's right" to take care of their own!
Sorry, but maybe someone ought to shove their anti-government rhetoric back down their throats.
Thanks FC, I was pretending to spread the gospel of Faux news. Yes, I was calling the Mayor a maroon :-) I thought the disclaimer #not intended .... would make my point.
I think you confuse him with the previous pres who set a record for most vacation days ever taken by a sitting President. By the way , FEMA was around when Hurricaine Andrew hit. It was not the brain child of "Brownie"
The Mayor has NO point, he and the people who support him are ass holes.
You can bet he has a nice place to live.
People who think they don't want their communitees "disgraced" by temporary shelters
After a tradgedy are snobs, jerks and pompus asses.
You can also bet he will have a tough time with re-election.
And if I were in his shoes, I would be watching my back.
He might not have a nice place to live for long if he keeps making people mad, lol
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Don't care if mayor is Republican, Democrat, or other -- he's totally uncaring, a jerk & a fool who doesn't want to get re-elected. The Alabama governor or county officials or judge should step in and override him on an emergency basis. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some other law someplace that this guy is violating by impeding emergency relief.
I highly doubt that the mayor stands alone on this issue. Who knows, perhaps he will get re-elected because people tend to have short memories and/or vote strictly along party lines. Interestingly, they vote that way even if the policies the candidate embraces is not in their best interest.
@Zach - Sadly, all too true. I wish people would take the time and make the effort to actually understand what a) they're talking about on these blogs, and b) what they're voting for.
Tea Party - I'm talking about you. (As if that wasn't obvious)
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Others find bold print easier to read due to the narrow font displayed on a gray background.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other... Apples and oranges. Deal with it. Just grin and bear it.
This is so typical of some politician with his head so far up his keester that he can't see the real world.
This 'mayor' should be run out of town.
I'm pretty sure he's "enjoying" his last term.
ems mike, On that "should be run out of town" I think we should throw in (just for old-timey Southern justice) tarred and feathered also.
50 bucks says Scott's a republican, because only a republican can be that callous to the average American.
In any event, I think it's only fair if everyone who lost their home in the tornado move in with Scott - I'm sure he'll be willing to put you all up until you can get your homes re-built!
I wanna dump the s h i t ter in his front yard. (Apologies to Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation)
50 bucks says you'd have a cow if anyone suggested that only a black person would be caught looting after a tornado or that only an idiot would have moved into a tornado belt. . . Broad generalizations are seldom productive, are they?
2000 angry residents....one idiot....whatever happened to good old tar and feathering? But,then again, I can see the mayor's point. The millions of tourists visiting Cordova this year won't want to see those ugly little trailers. They will be coming to see all the houses off their foundations and people sleeping out in their yards. Sure beats Disneyland.
If another storm comes through there those tents aren`t going to be very safe shelter,there might be a lot of dead people after the next storm or tornado.
If a tornado goes through an area with a multitude of single wides there usually an empty field with asphalt roads and cement driveways left behind a nice tent might be a better option
@wheels - A tent is more likely to be safe than a mobile home? What are you drinking/smoking?
Yes, nerves get very raw in those situations. I could see it getting dangerous for him. Also, towns that are already dying can be finished off rather quickly with stupid decisions like this. People won't be coming back once they leave, esp under an apparent tea bagger type. There is simply no money for the back and forth of it. The mayor should grow some common sense.
You might want to check to see if any of his relatives, like Bubba Joe Scott, own a business that sells trailers or RV's.
Is Rick Scott a relative of this idiot?
It makes me sick to see stupidity in motion. Is this guy serious? WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO GO YOU IDIOT????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on man, haven't we come far enough with our intelligence to comprehend when scores of people have no roof over their heads and FEMA has a roof ready for them that you let these victims have a break? Are you going to put a roof over their heads mayor????? ARE YOU???? What is your brilliant plan? How many guest rooms do you have? Maybe if you were a better human being you would look at the situation that is actually happening right now in front of your narrow minded face instead of what may happen in a few years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a small child and I tell you what; if I had lost everything there is no way I would let some ass hole tell me my child can't have a safe place to go. Why don't you do your job mayor??? Help these people now, then help them get their lives back together and then hopefully they can get out of their temporary homes, which I'm sure they have no desire to be in any longer than necessary anyway! Get it together man! If I were you I wouldn't be so worried about judgement on this Earth but you remember that God sees all and eventually, everyone's bill comes due!!!
Why do they even need trailers? Their homeowners insurance should cover the cost of rental while their homes are rebuilt. Mine would do that. I'd just live in an apartment, rent paid by insurance, while my house is rebuilt again paid by insurance.
Of course, if these people didn't have insurance then there's the proof that the Mayor is right and these freaks are irresponsible worms who would let trailers get run down all over the place.
That is bullsh!t.
I had all manners of insurance after Katrina.
Then the insurance companies would not pay.
The only thing I had going for me was a good job and a wife with one also.
I had to hire lawyers and fight for everything I had paid so long for.
AND I had to pay for an apartment out of my own pocket.
Be careful who you call a "freak".
Until you have been in our shoes you need to belay that talk.
Your insurance company will promise you the moon to keep getting premiums.
Then just let one "act of God" happen and you will see how wrong you are.
Meangene......'Why do they even need trailers?'....because everything got destroyed dummy....everything.....hospital.....hotels.....tornadoes don't discriminate.
I've made several insurance claims and never had a problem because I didn't cheap out and go with the lowest bidder. I'm a firm believer in the principle that you get what you pay for.
This is Obama's America, where insurance isn't optional anymore. The people who didn't have any should be fined for their irresponsible behavior.
How many "natural disasters" you been in? I did not go cheap-have good insurance and was paid promptly and fairly; however, check made to me and mortgage company (BOA). Mortgage company will not send money back. One month after storm and house still no work done on house. (paid my mortgage promptly for 15+ years. I was told get the work done and let contractor wait for his money! I will NOT let another person suffer because of BOA greed.
I had State Farm, Hurricane (a joke) insurance, homeowners, fire and federal flood.
How would you call that CHEAP?
AND even when your home is totaled (like mine was) you STILL have to pay the mortgage, if you intend to rebuild.
PLUS pay for your apartment.
PLUS keep up your insurance premiums.
Yes Meangene-3334839 your right Obama sent the tornadoes everywhere so small mindless trolls can blame him for every bad occurrence happening on this planet.
Great idea. Been in many small towns recently? I suspect the number of rentals (especially after a tornado) would be -- three??? If that. Just where do you think these apartments are going to come from? Oh yeah ... you DIDN'T think!
The mayor is thinking of the future of his town. I don't think that completely disallowing trailers is a great idea--if anything, allow them for a restricted amount of time --say, 18 months. But, in the long haul, tax money would be wasted in putting up trailer homes for them to keep and live in for as long as they like. They are genenerally less safe in flood zones and tornado zones than a traditional home. Even the traditional homes should be reinvented for the areas they are being built, to be accomodated for the region, and its weather and terrain. If people want to desparately live in a flood zone, there should be options or even mandates for these people to get reasonably priced homes that float (which do exist, they have them in holland) or homes in tornado alley that are half in the ground, half above, safe rooms and what not in areas where tornados hit hard. Thinking ahead will save money in the end. One style of home doesn't work for every region, yet we see cookiecutter homes scattered across the country built in a similar manner.
He may be right in thinking that people would be likely to remain in the trailer homes and not leave them after years. It would be more wise to put people in hotels, motels, etc, than trailer homes, so that they remain motivated in rebuilding their homes with a stronger structure. And if they can't rebuild because they didn't take out insurance policies for their homes, then it's a hard lesson learned. They will have to apply for assistance--wait a long time. But living in a trailer home in that area, would not be wise.
No, he's not. If he WERE thinking of the future of his town, he'd be thinking of ways to KEEP people in the town.
Oh sure ... but where are you going to FIND the hotels, motels, etc.??? Most small towns only have one or two -- at the MOST -- and chances are pretty good in this case, those would have been damaged as well.
Also, how do you know the ORIGINAL homes didn't have a "strong structure". I don't care HOW well your home is built -- a tornado will destroy it.
Insurance aside - maybe there is nothing to rent. Especially if a lot of that town and neighboring ones were damaged. People have to live near to their jobs and schools, etc, they can't just move at the drop of a hat (or funnel cloud). Have some compassion, man.
I'm glad you have good insurance, but the point made above is a good one - you are one of the lucky who could afford a good policy and get the insurance to pay up. Best of luck to you in the current Mississippi River floods too.
Fining people for more of what they didn't have to begin with? That's a solution? You're a pistol!
I would just like to say, I have lived in my home all my life born here, my mom and dad and their mom and dad and so on, I went threw Katrina, then contacted insurance they were quick on the draw started to rebuild then came Rita the insurance was a little slower getting to the problem then came Ike and they dropped me. Left me to foot the bill, now my point is I paid all my premiums even when i slept in a tent also refused government help because i thought i have insurance no need for the government help, Now once again i have rebuilt my home so because i was dropped from my insurance company you call us freaks, worms, and irresponsible how about a little HUMAN COMPASSION for your fellow man. I hope you never have to call on your fellow man's help in a disaster they may choose to turn the other cheek so to speak.
Instead of responding with emotions, I have some questions.
The people needing those trailers have a plan to be out of those trailers within 18 mos? So if the people needing that temporary housing plan to rebuild, or are waiting for rental vacancies, etc. I would not object. If the plan is to stay in those trailers with no plan, that is not an acceptable plan. Think about setting up temporary sewer facilities, water, etc. The town only has so much money and thus they need to use that money carefully.
The policy was in place to begin with. It isn't that he just made this decision. I can understand the worries since the trailers still exist in NO. As I recall as well, the trailers sparked a lot of controversy with regards to safety. When the next storm comes, should these people in trailers leave to go where?
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I think they probably didn't PLAN to get their homes blown to kingdom come.
Easy to fix.
Make a variance to the zoning policy to FEMA trailers ONLY, with a 24 month limitation.
Solved.
You are intentionally missing the point. The trailers end up being their home instead of finding a better solution to begin with. Again, look back and remember all the mess with the trailers in NO. Look wherever you live you must have a plan always in the event of a fire, etc. If it means staying with relatives, or moving into town, or moving to a rental, etc. I am not talking about a concrete plan, but Plan A, Plan B, etc. that can be implemented.
If you look at Katrina, people moved to that area, or were born in that area, and they knew the risk. Each year as the hurricane season rolls around everybody needs to have a plan. It might not be great, and it might only be temporary, but again everybody needs a plan. The alternative is to wait on the government to take over and then make the decisions for you.
The problem with the variance is that later at 24 mos. many will still be in those trailers. That mayor knows that. Again, we only need to look at NO.
BTW, many in NO did get compensated for their losses, but they never fixed their homes. Instead, they left with the money leaving neighborhoods blighted. Many went to hotels that got trashed. There is the pretend world, and there is a the real world.
It is complicated. I would not opt for the trailers either. What is sad is how many homes across the US are currently empty and have been more months or years that could be used for temporary housing. The problem is temporary facilities are often trashed.
I don't know the answer, except when push comes to shove, people find their own solutions.
I'm not intentionally missing the point. I think YOU are.
You say you would NOT opt for trailers, but you offer NO other solutions. (And "people find their own solutions" doesn't count!)
Trailers ARE a temporary solution. They are better than being homeless, they are better than being in a tent. They allow people to have a semblance of a normal life while picking up the pieces. Will a small percent abuse them ... probably. No matter WHAT, a small percentage of people will ALWAYS abuse something!
And how is that? You live and work in a small town in Alabama ... so you are to pick up and find temporary housing someplace else? How to you plan to keep a job or rebuild IF YOU ARE NOT LIVING THERE. Please, a bit of common sense.
He has probably seen the pig styes still existing in New Orleans. How many years now?
He does have a point. When he was elected he took an oath to uphold the laws of the town. If He doesn`t uphold the laws then he is derelect in his duties. Maybe the people of the town need to change that law.
He should be looking at the residents of Cordova who need a place to sleep at night.
There might be a law that the city must provide emergency services.
the pig styes in NO as you say are there because they will not allow(government) to rebuild there many moved to other areas and rebuilt elsewhere. I live in Louisiana do you or are you just looking at the news shows!
I hope the entire town of 2000 leaves for good, leaving the mayor with an empty non functional town. He is a rat basturd, these people need help NOW not what MAY happen a few years from now. Hopefully most of them had some kind of homeowners insurance and I have no idea what real estate and to cost to rebuild costs there. But I worked for in the insurance industry for more than 25 yrs and every single company paid for temporary housing for people who lost their homes and belongings and were unable to return to their homes for shelter.
I'm betting this dude is republican down to his toenails, he doesn't understand helping people and he would like nothing more than for them to move out of his comunity, I for one say string him up by his gonads.
What a jerk.
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i agree with that one person. i bet the mayor has a nice place to live out of the weather while the poor people who can barely afford tents are stuck outside this is despicable. Its ridiculous that this is what this country is coming to where is the justice in this.
I"m guessin' the mayors fine house is standing, and he doesn't have to worry about a roof over his head at night. What an a$$
THe "PIG STYES" in New Orleans were kept because the prople who did NOT have insurance
and already lived in squander got an UPGRADE when they got FEMA Housing.
Now, how can you blame them for wanting to keep an upgrade?
Most were already on welfare for life,. all the government did in that case was change
their lifestyle for the better.
Most of US responsible citizens re-built and sent the damned trailers BACK.
I live in the hardest hit area, the MS Gulf Coast.
Most all but a few trailers are gone now.
And people re-built.
But they NEEDED that housing to rebuild.
Wow, "[m]ost of US responsible citizens re-built and sent the damned trailers BACK". If you felt that way about your Federal Government giving you a place to live, maybe you shouldn't have spent one day in it? Of course, it's much easier for you to look that gift horse in the mouth and bitch than to be thankful that your government TRIED to help.
You end your statement with "they NEEDED that housing to rebuild", which is true. And yet you still call it a damned trailer. Screw you and your begrudging thanks for our government's help.
Screw you too.
I RECIEVED my FEMA trailer AFTER I had to rent an apartment to live in for SIX months!
I stayed in it two nights.
The rest of the time it was either locked up or used for storage.
Like I said.
Walk in a disaster victims shoes.
Squalor, not squander.
No Corsair, screw you. If you spent 1 second in a "gubmint trailer" you are a f'ing hypocrite. But you accepted that trailer--whether you used it as a domicile or a storage unit is immaterial--you used a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT supplied trailer when you were in need. You are a POS scumbag who used the very government's charity that you "claim" to despise.
The trailer "showed up" on my property while I was on Hurricane relief missions.
I never even knew it was on my property until I got back.
I lived in my apartment for three weeks before a neighbor called and told me it was there.
They set the thing down in my yard and it was on my garden spot as well.
I called them to come pick it up because I didn't need it.
It took EIGHT months for them to come move it.
I didn't need it, but these people in Alabama and Joplin do.
SO SCREW YOU.
Only a heartless person would try to enforce this policy. These people lost everything and came quite close to losing thier own lives. As a Katrina suvivor who was homelss for two months, I can tell you it is a scary feeling when you don't know where you are going to end up. This man should be run out of town. These people need answers about livng arraingements and he is worried about his town looking bad because of it! Well, I haven't been the recently, but I'd be willing to bet that the town isn't looking too great right now. And, they are using the very same trailers to house public buildings.....that is an outrage! I agree, he should be tarred and feathered along with anyone who agrees with his warped attitude .
No, they're not using those very same trailers. FEMA trailers have strings attached from the overbearing Federal Government. Refuse to allow those trailers in and you can escape the web of Federal strings. Letting FEMA in will always make things worse and never better.
Do you know what those FEMA jerks are going to do? They're going to demand electricity hooked up to these trailers, they're going to demand water lines and sewage lines, and waste all of those resources which should be used to repair damage to the OLD utilities, not satisfying some goofy FEMA bureacrat fatass who moves in and takes over in the name of our Messiah Obama.
When the Federal Government offers to help, the answer from anyone with half a brain is NO NO NO FOREVER AND EVER NO DO NOT TRY TO HELP YOU PINKO COMMIES!!
No Rick,he is just a politician. There are old freight containers that people have turned into livable homes. They are cheap and can be turned into permanent,eye-pleasing residences. Houses in many cities are still too high for first time buyers. This is one idea being tried. Maybe someone from there can pass this idea along to FEMA,Mayor,etc. If they have any computers left. Or can use new city services. I am sure they have NEWEST ones! The problem with FEMA trailers,as you may have heard,is they have permanently-dsabled many people who lived in them. They were new and materials emitted toxic chemicals. I would NOT choose to live in one. If one prays,God will provide better than these disease-causing trailers.
Some of the earlier trailers did have formaldehyde issues.
That has been remedied.
Now they have FEMA cottages that are safe.
I pass by three acres of them left over from Katrina in a field everyday in
Gulfport MS.
All are in good shape and should be sent to the tornado victims IMMEDIATELY.
If prayer worked then they wouldnt even be needing new houses, don`t ya think?
Hello again, atheist.
There are old freight containers that people have turned into livable homes.
That's actually a great idea! Some of them are pretty amazing -- and remarkably economical and sturdy too!
http://www.google.com/search?q=freight+container+homes&hl=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=R9HiTdeUG424twemn_SEBw&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=643
@Beth,
much healthier then products made in China!
Wow. Just when you thought you've heard it all....
All elected officials are elected BY THE PEOPLE--to REPRESENT THE PEOPLE--ALL OF THEM--not just a select few.
This statement: "I don't feel guilty," he said. "I can look anyone in the eye." Is indicative of what a majority of POLITICIANS have become of late. They are only concerned with their constituents who throw large sums of "payoff" money to allow businesses to escape scrutiny and could care LESS about the PEOPLE who put them into office.
This bastard is a sunnuvaBitch and he needs to get a very LOUD AND CLEAR MESSAGE...STARING HIM DIRECTLY TO HIS FACE--LOOKING HIM IN THE EYE: "YOU'RE FIRED YOU F'NG PIG!"
Dirty f'ng mayor! Thinks he's all so powerful and mighty. This man is going to find out real quick (I believe) that he picked the absolutely WRONG SIDE OF THIS ISSUE to take a stand!
What a piece of CHIT!
Sorry for my *french* but this PIG isn't worth language much better--especially after he practically tells all those suffering in his town, "YOU'RE FK'D!" And then defends himself!
What a scumfkkr. GO TO HELL U BASTARD!
sounds like all the residents should just camp out on this dumb ass's front lawn until he does something about it. What a complete jerk!!
True Republican politician using a catastrophe to possibly gain an advantage on properties that might be abandoned by the current owners in the future. The same trailers are being used by the city? The mayor is a typical GOP dictatorial hypocrit.
Don't equate boneheaded ignorant hilljacks with Republicans, you pusilanimous twit.
Well Wayne, he is GOP. It's on his facebook page. Blowhard.