I do not understand why we are paying them any money when our budget is so bad. We are spending way too much on country's like this. What have they done for us?
Sooooo: We pay them to fight militants in their country. Damn, I am going to form my own country and fight militants here. Think I will declare on the wives running rampant in Wallyworld first. Now.......WHERES MY MONEY. Folks, we are truly a nation of "Keystone Kops".
What Pakistan has done is lost over 3000 solders fighting terrorism and they have not given terrorist nuclear weapons. Keeping nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands is worth a few dollars.
And Another Thing: We lost 3000 at the wtc. We have lost god knows how many in sandflea nations all over the world fighting terrorists. We have also kept our nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists. WHO THE BLOODY HELL IS PAYING US? U.S. Government= "Keystone Kops"
How they vote in the United Nations: Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:
Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time
Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.
U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us:
Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States,
still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.
Jordan votes 71% against the United States
And receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
Pakistan votes 75% against the United States
Receives $6,721,000,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
India votes 81% against the United States
Receives $143,699,000 annually.
WHY? WHO IN THE HECK STARTED THIS AND WHY? THEY ACTUALLY BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM.
Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes.
Remember this as our government cuts services drastically for Americans.
At a time when legislators are talking seriously about cutting Medicare and Medicaid to American citizens, and phasing out Social Security to citizens who have paid into it throughout their working years, they have the nerve to continue to funnel money to Pakistan and other foreign countries who merely see us as a money tree....
I guess the sky IS falling...
There SHOULD be major spending cuts in the federal budget, but we need to start with foreign aid and all the BS administrative costs of gov't, which do nothing more than line the pockets of those who least deserve it.
We have people who are out of jobs here in the USA, yet we send money to Pakistan? Just plan wrong, any way you shake it.
there is a candidate running for the Republican seat that wants to stop ALL foreign aid to these countries, his name is Ron Paul. Vote in the Primaries! search him on youtube or go to www.ronpaul.com or www.ronpaul.org
One major problem with the USA budget is the paying off of many countries for one political reason or the other. Here..the republicans want to cut spending on our own citizens while sending millions more into other countries for political purposes only. And that not countring the millions going to those countries for oil and its huge profits. Everyone needs to consider with the coming elections..just what we are getting in return for electing professional politicans...from what I have seen so far..favors owed to lobbyist have more influence on our politicans than our voting them inot office had. I have not heard one politican claim he or she was against lobbyist and their money..nor for the favors owed because of that money.
We are being held hostage by foreign governments sympathetic to the causes of jihad and other anti-american doctrines.. we either give them billions in 'aid' or they refuse the insanely limited access we are granted to their countries to root out terrorist cells. In reference to Wakeuppeople's post.. great job- and we should disperse 'aid' to these countries in direct correspondence to thier level of support.. I'll even offer up the the first revised 'aid' package to Pakistan-I've got a bit of change in my pocket, and that's all they deserve for blatantly harboring the greatest known terrorist of this generation.
WakeupPeople: For helping us and keeping oil prices low, we went to Iraqi wars in 1991 and 2001.
You see: we had to save our allies (with democracies in their nations) like Kuwaiti ruler with 65 plus wives, Saudi rulers, princes and princesses, UAE rulers and others.
You see they have very good democratic managements in their harems.
We had oil prices as low as $145.
To keep oil supplies flowing and save these seventh century democratic rulers of Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia and others, Iran's intervention will be badly needed soon.
Similarly to eliminate all militants, Pakistan is badly needed as an ally! So give monies and arrange IMF loans.
Instead of wasting all these, the US politicians need to find some desert right in the US where they could sink all the tax monies.
So yesterday we were publically questioning Paki's loyalty to the US and today we are sending them 300 million? I wonder what that money could do for us here in the States?
Paying Pakistan to hunt militants. What could go wrong?
:P
By the way, I DO NOT agree that money spent on nations that we are unpopular with is necessarily wasted. The PRIME example is Egypt, and given the use of the Suez Canal by our civilian and military ships, I think it has paid off just fine. That money we spend has been made a hundred-fold by corporations, and also served our national interest. It so happens that the tyrant we sent the money to is at his rightful end, but it doesn't mean the money we spent was wrong or that the new government will be anything but friendly.
As far as the people of any of these countries go, its hard not to have prejudices when telephone communication still isn't a standard in all households and the news comes from one man at a 'pulpit.' So, really, what do you expect? I do agree, however, the vast majority of countries we send money to is not returned in kind. And I agree that something should be done about it NOW.
What Pakistan has done is lost over 3000 solders fighting terrorism ...
in their own country. Maybe Pakistan can pay us for fighting terrorism in our country? How about them funding TSA since terrorism brought about this organization (especially the terrorist Bin Laden found to be living well for 5 years in their country)?
and they have not given terrorist nuclear weapons. Keeping nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands is worth a few dollars
Well then why don't we just buy all of their nuclear weapons & technology from them so they can't sale it to terrorists? Maybe we can have USA Nuclear Amnesty Program (like some cities do for guns)? Or maybe we should pay India, China, Russia, Britain, France, or any other nuclear country in the world to keep "nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands." All in all, it's "worth a few dollars."
We shouldn't be paying countries to police themselves. It frilling outrageous (regardless of the economy).
IMF can't hold meetings in Pakistan. So it holds meeting for giving loans to Pakistan in UAE.
Who will repay Paki loans?
US needs the ally, Pakistan and so it is continuing the aids.
Till the monies are spent, Pakis can take hate marches, give aids to all the militant groups to fight Nato forces in Afghanistan and top fill their pockets.
What a joke the US foreign policies have become.
For a few million dollars in the US, there are big budget battles!
gina, so what should we do? Let the Arabs wipe them off the map, as they publicly still most of them claim they want to do? At least Israel always backs us, the others in the middle east hate us, even as they open their wallets for our money and their mouths for our food.
With all the graft and corruption in Pakistan, very little of that money will be used for fighting militants. Most of the money will wind up in the pockets of everyone who comes in contact with it.
Much does end up in militant hands. This is why our failed foreign policy of giving BILLIONS to foreign countries that hate the US must stop. Ron Paul 2012!
We should not be paying them a dime, these militants they hunt down are the same militants attacking their towns, they do not need an incentive from us to hunt these guys. The guys we need them to hunt down they harbor. I am sick and I mean sick of my tax dollars going to @!$%# hole countries like this. The government is always like oh we hardly spend anything on foreign aid but all the money sent to yemen, pakistan, aghanistan, mexico, columbia is all desinated under military spending so we are in fact supplying many billions more in foreign aid than the government will admit, they want to cut social programs here and raise taxes, cut tax breaks for businesses all so they can give our money to some hell hole country, this sickens me.
there is a candidate running for the Republican seat that wants to stop ALL foreign aid to these countries, his name is Ron Paul. Vote in the Primaries! search him on youtube or go to www.ronpaul.com or www.ronpaul.org
I totally agree. Stop ALL aid and money going to Pakistan and stop giving them Visas to come to the US. The Pakis don't deserve anything more from us and the ones here are a national security threat.
This is an article by Hasnain Kazin titled Pen and Paper Jihad- Pakistani's effort to resocialize former Taliban. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,761763,00html this is in EnglishIn the Swat Valley the Pakiistani army for 2 years are resocializing former Taliban members with teaching them how to write and how to ply skills in mundane useful vocations and what Islamic belief regarding violent terror and waging jihad truly is. They have been 'brainwashed' (like cultists) The deradicalization courses have been very successful since they are based in the deNazification psychological precedents. Reasons given for joining the Jihad Taliban are very much like Capone's Chicago ,and one of the most recurring reason - we had food everyday. RASTOON- Pace of the Right Path is name for this program. Bear in mind, that the Pakistani army uses Urdu and the Taliban ex-fighters speak Pashtu. Remember also that Pakistani army has suffered tremendous losses in combating foreign,Afghan and Pakistani Taliban fighters. When it comes to borders- go to a map site and look how many Passes there are between Afgh/Pak and see the landscape- it is not the US/Mexico border.
Kinda makes me wonder what % of all these "payments" ok'd by our illustrious political hacks is then turned back around and deposited in "hideout" bank accounts. The graft and corruption in this country is truly mind boggling.
MSNBC--please publish the name of everyone in the United States Congress (or the subordinates of thes people) that votes for or supports this measure. We do have an election coming up in the not too distant future, and we really need to know who we are going to vote OUT.
I'm not going to keep beating the drum of the stupidity of supporting these third world pestholes. We've done that, and we've seen what it's gotten us. We need to cut the cord. Whoever is pumping cash and supplies through that cord needs to be cut, too.
No more foreign aid. If these places can't see that's it's in their own best interests to defeat terrorism (without being paid to see it), they are no better than the terrorists themselves.
(I wonder if we could declare Ohio a foreign country? Then we could apply for foreign aid. Our governor would qualify for a terrorist--therefore, more aid. Or he could say we "union thugs" (yeah, right) were terrorists. Now there's a good argument for seceding. LOL)
zapper, MSNBC would never do that. They are too far liberal. They view this as humanitarian aid. It doesn't matter that Americans are suffering, we must take care of the whole world before ourselves. Of course, they want to spend every else's money, not theirs.
there is a candidate running for the Republican seat that wants to stop ALL foreign aid to these countries, his name is Ron Paul. Vote in the Primaries! search him on youtube or go to www.ronpaul.com or www.ronpaul.org
I love Ron Paul and voted for him in the last election and anytime I see him on the ballot. I wonder when 95% of this country will finally wake up and vote for him in 2012.
The politicians who think it is good idea to send $300 million to Pakistan, especially in light of their most recent performance, should hand deliver it and just stay there. It is absurd to think that we should give them one penny. I think that it is high time to pull the plug on all this foreign crap (wars, aid, etc...) We can not even afford to educate our own children and yet we still see our government giving our futures away. Its time to call BS on all this nonsense and focus a little more on ourselves.
Somebody obviously screwed up the headline to this story. Surely you meant to write "U.S. to pay Back-Stabbing Corrupt Pakistan Gov't $300 for Harboring Terrorists" More and more I just don't get WHY our gov't is spending BILLIONS of dollars on BS programs like this when teachers, police & firefighters are loosing jobs, and the core infrastructure of our country is crumbling away.
It's time to start taking better care of our own country!
OMG!!!!!!! are you frikkin kidding me right?? you were already givin them money to help them fight terrorism and look who they had in their backyard....who got bin laden?? we did !!! those bastards didnt do a damn thing..they dont like us ...and we dont trust them...i can get my damn teeth fixed coz i aint got the money...$3oo. million??????????????? i gotta try what they are smoking and maybe i'll understand...and you want me to vote?????
Yet another program that should be cut. They have used our money to finance attacks against us. We are paying them to hate us and it needs to stop. They can hate us for free.
Our politicians, including Obama, are worthless. They care nothing for their own country and the people in it.
Gee I thought it was just Bush and the republicans that were just all about oil, I guess the dems and Obama are too.
I'm voting all Independents next year. If people were smart they would vote everyone who is in their out next year. Then maybe we will get their attention.
It's been my philosophy over the last few elections to assume that challengers are a better choice than any incumbent. We know that the guy in office now is looking out for his own re-election first and foremost while maybe giving an occasional thought to the welfare of the country-give somebody else a chance. In unchallenged races I write in myself.
Dear America - please bend over and apply KY. Everyone in the world, except the taxpayer, has figured out how to screw us through fear and the military complex - Enjoy!
I thought that we (the U.S.) were broke???? We didn't have the money to help our own, the people long term unemployed, children headstart program or free lunch program, and we need to cut medicare to the poor and handy capped , BUT!!!! Hell yes let give another few billions to the 3 world countries that hate us. Our congress and senators are Soooo mis-guilded remember charity start at home , If you want to give other countries money give them your own money NOT tax a payers money.
If Republicans and members of the Bush Administration want credit for helping catch "bin Laden" here it is:
"The U.S. wasted $7.1 Billion Dollars funding Pakistan to "hide bin Laden" in a life of luxury for close to 10 years."
There's your credit, plain and simple. The Bush Administration people that have stated they deserve some credit such as Cheney, Card, Rice, etc, now have been given their credit. You notice Bush himself will not accept any credit whatsoever.
The people in the U.S. know that $Trillions$ of Dollars" were wasted and over "5,000 U.S. Soldier's Lives" were lost on the "Unecessary and Illegal Iraq War". This is the Bush Administration's "Legacy and History Judgement".
Thanks be to the Bush Administration for this and many others "Unecessary Losses".
Enough Bush-bashing. That was then, this is now! If you want to look back, explain why Bill Clinton didn't take OBL when he was offered up to Bill in the mid-90's. Think it would have changed history?
Clinton didn't do it because at the time he was confused with other, more important things. Bombing aspirin factories, oh, yeah...and getting a hummer in the Oval Office.
Even if he had figured out *how* to get OBL, there would've been three opinion polls taken before any announcement was made - just to make sure that he was not going to offend any of the sensitive people (campaign donors) out there that might be watching.
Believe me, there's plenty of "blame" to go around on this whole OBL mess, but sending any money to Pakistan at this point is an insult to everyone who died on 9/11, and to everyone who has died or been hurt since while trying to find that 6'4" piece of excrement.
In fact, I'd rather see the 300 million sent to India to assist them in upgrading the targeting systems on the many, many missiles currently pointed at Pakistan.
I know diplomacy is just a nice way of buying what we want. Well, we are not getting what we want. Apparently we are paying off the wrong people. Bribing a weak government that doesn't deliver is foolish. Upping the bribe is insane.
Lets see if I have this straight. OK, we pay them to fight their own terrorists in their own country. Yup, got it now. Folks, we are truly a nation of "Keystone Kops". How can our national "leaders" (no pun intended) keep from falling down. They have their heads up their asses so far that surely they can't see.
Thanks be to the Bush Administration for this and many others "Unecessary Losses".
So in lieu of that your okay with the 300 million being sent over there as long as Bush isn't behind it? It's alright for the Obama admin to send them the money?
I'm sitting here drinking my morning coffee not believing what I'm reading.... My wife works for a local college and our Great governor (Malloy in Ct.) just laid off 5000 workers yesterday. He is also laying off countless others in the next few days. We should be spending that $300 million here at home to help save jobs. We don't belong over there in the sandbox, we have no right to be there, and those camel jockeys don't want us there anyways. What the hell is wrong with this picture?
The Pakistanis probably give a "false body count" by shooting at rocks, then have a tribal festival with the enemy using US money, where an arms exchange takes place to kill more US & coalition soldiers. Stupidity has a vicious cycle. If you are not my friend, then you are my enemy. We don't have to think alike but I want to turn my back sometimes.
I understand the "U.S. administration has stressed the importance of maintaining cooperation" but I'd REALLY like to SEE some cooperation..... We can't get our helicopter back or any of the pertinant info that was left there. WHERE IS THE COOPERATION??????
Aw Shucks Folks. It's no big deal. Just your "Liberal Democratic Leaders" hard at work doing what they know best: printing money and borrowing from the Chinese.
Wake up, the repugs control congress, and guess who gave away the millions...(hint, POTUS can't just write a check...no matter what one party wants to claim when the other party has POTUS control)...
You want this sort of crap to stop, remove the party system and any means to contribute funds to politicians unless it is from a person (no corps, no groups, only a single persons name as the contributor) reported, transparent, for all to see. Then when the politicians will no longer run for an office, those campaign funds go towards SS (currently, that money goes to their pockets when they leave office...and we are to believe that eventual windfall from a corp/group doesn't sway their votes...ya, right, and I have a bridge for sale..)
Thats just great..we are paying them to fight the bad guys in ther own country when our own people here are in need of aid. When will the government stop spending our taxed payed dollars on everyone else and fix our problems first here at home
I do not understand why we are paying them any money when our budget is so bad. We are spending way too much on country's like this. What have they done for us?
Sooooo: We pay them to fight militants in their country. Damn, I am going to form my own country and fight militants here. Think I will declare on the wives running rampant in Wallyworld first. Now.......WHERES MY MONEY. Folks, we are truly a nation of "Keystone Kops".
What Pakistan has done is lost over 3000 solders fighting terrorism and they have not given terrorist nuclear weapons. Keeping nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands is worth a few dollars.
And where did they get the technology and the money to build these nuclear weapons and delivery systems.
And Another Thing: We lost 3000 at the wtc. We have lost god knows how many in sandflea nations all over the world fighting terrorists. We have also kept our nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists. WHO THE BLOODY HELL IS PAYING US? U.S. Government= "Keystone Kops"
How they vote in the United Nations:
Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States
which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations
records:
Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time
Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.
U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us:
Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United
States,
still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.
Jordan votes 71% against the United States
And receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
Pakistan votes 75% against the United States
Receives $6,721,000,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
India votes 81% against the United States
Receives $143,699,000 annually.
WHY?
WHO IN THE HECK STARTED
THIS AND WHY?
THEY ACTUALLY BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM.
Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back
to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay
the taxes.
Remember this as our government cuts services drastically for Americans.
Great post, wakeup. I guess we "pay them off" to be our "friends." We should back off aid every time they go against us. That's all they understand.
"Keystone Cops" ? are you 110 years old?
This is one of the biggest reasons why I do not approve of any tax increases at this time. If this is where the extra "revenue" goes, screw them.
At a time when legislators are talking seriously about cutting Medicare and Medicaid to American citizens, and phasing out Social Security to citizens who have paid into it throughout their working years, they have the nerve to continue to funnel money to Pakistan and other foreign countries who merely see us as a money tree....
I guess the sky IS falling...
There SHOULD be major spending cuts in the federal budget, but we need to start with foreign aid and all the BS administrative costs of gov't, which do nothing more than line the pockets of those who least deserve it.
We have people who are out of jobs here in the USA, yet we send money to Pakistan? Just plan wrong, any way you shake it.
@wakeuppeople
there is a candidate running for the Republican seat that wants to stop ALL foreign aid to these countries, his name is Ron Paul. Vote in the Primaries! search him on youtube or go to www.ronpaul.com or www.ronpaul.org
One major problem with the USA budget is the paying off of many countries for one political reason or the other. Here..the republicans want to cut spending on our own citizens while sending millions more into other countries for political purposes only. And that not countring the millions going to those countries for oil and its huge profits. Everyone needs to consider with the coming elections..just what we are getting in return for electing professional politicans...from what I have seen so far..favors owed to lobbyist have more influence on our politicans than our voting them inot office had. I have not heard one politican claim he or she was against lobbyist and their money..nor for the favors owed because of that money.
We are being held hostage by foreign governments sympathetic to the causes of jihad and other anti-american doctrines.. we either give them billions in 'aid' or they refuse the insanely limited access we are granted to their countries to root out terrorist cells. In reference to Wakeuppeople's post.. great job- and we should disperse 'aid' to these countries in direct correspondence to thier level of support.. I'll even offer up the the first revised 'aid' package to Pakistan-I've got a bit of change in my pocket, and that's all they deserve for blatantly harboring the greatest known terrorist of this generation.
WakeupPeople: For helping us and keeping oil prices low, we went to Iraqi wars in 1991 and 2001.
You see: we had to save our allies (with democracies in their nations) like Kuwaiti ruler with 65 plus wives, Saudi rulers, princes and princesses, UAE rulers and others.
You see they have very good democratic managements in their harems.
We had oil prices as low as $145.
To keep oil supplies flowing and save these seventh century democratic rulers of Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia and others, Iran's intervention will be badly needed soon.
Similarly to eliminate all militants, Pakistan is badly needed as an ally! So give monies and arrange IMF loans.
Instead of wasting all these, the US politicians need to find some desert right in the US where they could sink all the tax monies.
So yesterday we were publically questioning Paki's loyalty to the US and today we are sending them 300 million? I wonder what that money could do for us here in the States?
Paying Pakistan to hunt militants. What could go wrong?
:P
By the way, I DO NOT agree that money spent on nations that we are unpopular with is necessarily wasted. The PRIME example is Egypt, and given the use of the Suez Canal by our civilian and military ships, I think it has paid off just fine. That money we spend has been made a hundred-fold by corporations, and also served our national interest. It so happens that the tyrant we sent the money to is at his rightful end, but it doesn't mean the money we spent was wrong or that the new government will be anything but friendly.
As far as the people of any of these countries go, its hard not to have prejudices when telephone communication still isn't a standard in all households and the news comes from one man at a 'pulpit.' So, really, what do you expect? I do agree, however, the vast majority of countries we send money to is not returned in kind. And I agree that something should be done about it NOW.
notforsale,
in their own country. Maybe Pakistan can pay us for fighting terrorism in our country? How about them funding TSA since terrorism brought about this organization (especially the terrorist Bin Laden found to be living well for 5 years in their country)?
Well then why don't we just buy all of their nuclear weapons & technology from them so they can't sale it to terrorists? Maybe we can have USA Nuclear Amnesty Program (like some cities do for guns)? Or maybe we should pay India, China, Russia, Britain, France, or any other nuclear country in the world to keep "nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands." All in all, it's "worth a few dollars."
We shouldn't be paying countries to police themselves. It frilling outrageous (regardless of the economy).
Hey ivan, it isn't just republicans, it's all of them.
In yesterday's Der Spiegel there was an article how Pakistan is resocializing former Taliban fighters
So? Israel's been receiving a whole lot more aid from us forever and ever, all they do is create hatred and enemies for us in the M.E.
We are being fleeced by special interest groups 'til we go broke. Then our enemies will retaliate.
Seems like those folks over there got us comin' and they got us goin'.
IMF can't hold meetings in Pakistan. So it holds meeting for giving loans to Pakistan in UAE.
Who will repay Paki loans?
US needs the ally, Pakistan and so it is continuing the aids.
Till the monies are spent, Pakis can take hate marches, give aids to all the militant groups to fight Nato forces in Afghanistan and top fill their pockets.
What a joke the US foreign policies have become.
For a few million dollars in the US, there are big budget battles!
gina, so what should we do? Let the Arabs wipe them off the map, as they publicly still most of them claim they want to do? At least Israel always backs us, the others in the middle east hate us, even as they open their wallets for our money and their mouths for our food.
With all the graft and corruption in Pakistan, very little of that money will be used for fighting militants. Most of the money will wind up in the pockets of everyone who comes in contact with it.
I imagine that some of will wind up in the hands of the militants as well.
Much does end up in militant hands. This is why our failed foreign policy of giving BILLIONS to foreign countries that hate the US must stop. Ron Paul 2012!
Despite all these, if the US, British and allies arrange IMF loans and continue aids, lobbyists must be doing good jobs!
We should not be paying them a dime, these militants they hunt down are the same militants attacking their towns, they do not need an incentive from us to hunt these guys. The guys we need them to hunt down they harbor. I am sick and I mean sick of my tax dollars going to @!$%# hole countries like this. The government is always like oh we hardly spend anything on foreign aid but all the money sent to yemen, pakistan, aghanistan, mexico, columbia is all desinated under military spending so we are in fact supplying many billions more in foreign aid than the government will admit, they want to cut social programs here and raise taxes, cut tax breaks for businesses all so they can give our money to some hell hole country, this sickens me.
@justin
there is a candidate running for the Republican seat that wants to stop ALL foreign aid to these countries, his name is Ron Paul. Vote in the Primaries! search him on youtube or go to www.ronpaul.com or www.ronpaul.org
Pakistan should not get a shiny dime of aid after this last 2 weeks. Not one penny, dime, quarter, dollar. Zip, Zilch, Zero!
I totally agree. Stop ALL aid and money going to Pakistan and stop giving them Visas to come to the US. The Pakis don't deserve anything more from us and the ones here are a national security threat.
This is an article by Hasnain Kazin titled Pen and Paper Jihad- Pakistani's effort to resocialize former Taliban. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,761763,00html this is in EnglishIn the Swat Valley the Pakiistani army for 2 years are resocializing former Taliban members with teaching them how to write and how to ply skills in mundane useful vocations and what Islamic belief regarding violent terror and waging jihad truly is. They have been 'brainwashed' (like cultists) The deradicalization courses have been very successful since they are based in the deNazification psychological precedents. Reasons given for joining the Jihad Taliban are very much like Capone's Chicago ,and one of the most recurring reason - we had food everyday. RASTOON- Pace of the Right Path is name for this program. Bear in mind, that the Pakistani army uses Urdu and the Taliban ex-fighters speak Pashtu. Remember also that Pakistani army has suffered tremendous losses in combating foreign,Afghan and Pakistani Taliban fighters. When it comes to borders- go to a map site and look how many Passes there are between Afgh/Pak and see the landscape- it is not the US/Mexico border.
Is that money on top of the 3 billion in foreign aid?
Kinda makes me wonder what % of all these "payments" ok'd by our illustrious political hacks is then turned back around and deposited in "hideout" bank accounts. The graft and corruption in this country is truly mind boggling.
Yes it IS on top of the 3 BILLION in "aid"! Meanwhile we debate shutting our government down here in the US.
MSNBC--please publish the name of everyone in the United States Congress (or the subordinates of thes people) that votes for or supports this measure. We do have an election coming up in the not too distant future, and we really need to know who we are going to vote OUT.
I'm not going to keep beating the drum of the stupidity of supporting these third world pestholes. We've done that, and we've seen what it's gotten us. We need to cut the cord. Whoever is pumping cash and supplies through that cord needs to be cut, too.
No more foreign aid. If these places can't see that's it's in their own best interests to defeat terrorism (without being paid to see it), they are no better than the terrorists themselves.
the government needs to give me $100,000 if they are giving away money.
At least I'll pay it back with interest.
Or give 30,000 US families $10,000 each since most cant afford food or gas right now!!!!
Peel--please put my name on that list, too.
(I wonder if we could declare Ohio a foreign country? Then we could apply for foreign aid. Our governor would qualify for a terrorist--therefore, more aid. Or he could say we "union thugs" (yeah, right) were terrorists. Now there's a good argument for seceding. LOL)
zapper, MSNBC would never do that. They are too far liberal. They view this as humanitarian aid. It doesn't matter that Americans are suffering, we must take care of the whole world before ourselves. Of course, they want to spend every else's money, not theirs.
@zapper
there is a candidate running for the Republican seat that wants to stop ALL foreign aid to these countries, his name is Ron Paul. Vote in the Primaries! search him on youtube or go to www.ronpaul.com or www.ronpaul.org
Thanks, I know about Ron Paul.
No more foreign aid. I'm fed up with paying people to be my/our friends. I think we should bill them for all the stuff we've "given" them.
I love Ron Paul and voted for him in the last election and anytime I see him on the ballot. I wonder when 95% of this country will finally wake up and vote for him in 2012.
zapper45701, I loved your #8 post.
The zap,
3 billion+ a year is in the Pakis best interests. Terrorism is a cash cow for the Pakis why would they want it to end?
SD--see the next line: they are no better than the terrorists themselves.
Cut the cord.
The politicians who think it is good idea to send $300 million to Pakistan, especially in light of their most recent performance, should hand deliver it and just stay there. It is absurd to think that we should give them one penny. I think that it is high time to pull the plug on all this foreign crap (wars, aid, etc...) We can not even afford to educate our own children and yet we still see our government giving our futures away. Its time to call BS on all this nonsense and focus a little more on ourselves.
look up Ron Paul my friend. He shares your views. DO something about how mad you are and vote in the primaries!
Somebody obviously screwed up the headline to this story. Surely you meant to write "U.S. to pay Back-Stabbing Corrupt Pakistan Gov't $300 for Harboring Terrorists" More and more I just don't get WHY our gov't is spending BILLIONS of dollars on BS programs like this when teachers, police & firefighters are loosing jobs, and the core infrastructure of our country is crumbling away.
It's time to start taking better care of our own country!
OMG!!!!!!! are you frikkin kidding me right?? you were already givin them money to help them fight terrorism and look who they had in their backyard....who got bin laden?? we did !!! those bastards didnt do a damn thing..they dont like us ...and we dont trust them...i can get my damn teeth fixed coz i aint got the money...$3oo. million??????????????? i gotta try what they are smoking and maybe i'll understand...and you want me to vote?????
Yet another program that should be cut. They have used our money to finance attacks against us. We are paying them to hate us and it needs to stop. They can hate us for free.
Our politicians, including Obama, are worthless. They care nothing for their own country and the people in it.
Gee I thought it was just Bush and the republicans that were just all about oil, I guess the dems and Obama are too.
I'm voting all Independents next year. If people were smart they would vote everyone who is in their out next year. Then maybe we will get their attention.
It's been my philosophy over the last few elections to assume that challengers are a better choice than any incumbent. We know that the guy in office now is looking out for his own re-election first and foremost while maybe giving an occasional thought to the welfare of the country-give somebody else a chance. In unchallenged races I write in myself.
That's funny. I would try that too, but if I were to win I don't think I would have the time to give it all I've got :)
Dear America - please bend over and apply KY. Everyone in the world, except the taxpayer, has figured out how to screw us through fear and the military complex - Enjoy!
What are we doing? Let's pull back the trillions we are paying the world (evn those that hate us) and concentrate on our country and it's citizens
I thought that we (the U.S.) were broke???? We didn't have the money to help our own, the people long term unemployed, children headstart program or free lunch program, and we need to cut medicare to the poor and handy capped , BUT!!!! Hell yes let give another few billions to the 3 world countries that hate us. Our congress and senators are Soooo mis-guilded remember charity start at home , If you want to give other countries money give them your own money NOT tax a payers money.
Its just: "More Change You Can Believe In". Too late now folks.
irishncountry,
Taliban Terry? Irish Muslim? What's up with that?
If Republicans and members of the Bush Administration want credit for helping catch "bin Laden" here it is:
"The U.S. wasted $7.1 Billion Dollars funding Pakistan to "hide bin Laden" in a life of luxury for close to 10 years."
There's your credit, plain and simple. The Bush Administration people that have stated they deserve some credit such as Cheney, Card, Rice, etc, now have been given their credit. You notice Bush himself will not accept any credit whatsoever.
The people in the U.S. know that $Trillions$ of Dollars" were wasted and over "5,000 U.S. Soldier's Lives" were lost on the "Unecessary and Illegal Iraq War". This is the Bush Administration's "Legacy and History Judgement".
Thanks be to the Bush Administration for this and many others "Unecessary Losses".
I knew if I panned down far enough I'd find some moron blaming it all on Bush.
Enough Bush-bashing. That was then, this is now! If you want to look back, explain why Bill Clinton didn't take OBL when he was offered up to Bill in the mid-90's. Think it would have changed history?
Clinton didn't do it because at the time he was confused with other, more important things. Bombing aspirin factories, oh, yeah...and getting a hummer in the Oval Office.
Even if he had figured out *how* to get OBL, there would've been three opinion polls taken before any announcement was made - just to make sure that he was not going to offend any of the sensitive people (campaign donors) out there that might be watching.
Believe me, there's plenty of "blame" to go around on this whole OBL mess, but sending any money to Pakistan at this point is an insult to everyone who died on 9/11, and to everyone who has died or been hurt since while trying to find that 6'4" piece of excrement.
In fact, I'd rather see the 300 million sent to India to assist them in upgrading the targeting systems on the many, many missiles currently pointed at Pakistan.
I Knew I would find someone bashing Bill over this sooner than latter.
I know diplomacy is just a nice way of buying what we want. Well, we are not getting what we want. Apparently we are paying off the wrong people. Bribing a weak government that doesn't deliver is foolish. Upping the bribe is insane.
Lets see if I have this straight. OK, we pay them to fight their own terrorists in their own country. Yup, got it now. Folks, we are truly a nation of "Keystone Kops". How can our national "leaders" (no pun intended) keep from falling down. They have their heads up their asses so far that surely they can't see.
So in lieu of that your okay with the 300 million being sent over there as long as Bush isn't behind it? It's alright for the Obama admin to send them the money?
We have been paying this since 2001. Which party was in control of the executive and legislative branches of government?
I'm sitting here drinking my morning coffee not believing what I'm reading.... My wife works for a local college and our Great governor (Malloy in Ct.) just laid off 5000 workers yesterday. He is also laying off countless others in the next few days. We should be spending that $300 million here at home to help save jobs. We don't belong over there in the sandbox, we have no right to be there, and those camel jockeys don't want us there anyways. What the hell is wrong with this picture?
The Pakistanis probably give a "false body count" by shooting at rocks, then have a tribal festival with the enemy using US money, where an arms exchange takes place to kill more US & coalition soldiers. Stupidity has a vicious cycle. If you are not my friend, then you are my enemy. We don't have to think alike but I want to turn my back sometimes.
I understand the "U.S. administration has stressed the importance of maintaining cooperation" but I'd REALLY like to SEE some cooperation..... We can't get our helicopter back or any of the pertinant info that was left there. WHERE IS THE COOPERATION??????
I agree! It seems they were sleeping on the job. We know what happens when air traffic controllers sleep on the job.
Aw Shucks Folks. It's no big deal. Just your "Liberal Democratic Leaders" hard at work doing what they know best: printing money and borrowing from the Chinese.
uh, bipartisan much...(sheeple are so funny...)
Wake up, the repugs control congress, and guess who gave away the millions...(hint, POTUS can't just write a check...no matter what one party wants to claim when the other party has POTUS control)...
You want this sort of crap to stop, remove the party system and any means to contribute funds to politicians unless it is from a person (no corps, no groups, only a single persons name as the contributor) reported, transparent, for all to see. Then when the politicians will no longer run for an office, those campaign funds go towards SS (currently, that money goes to their pockets when they leave office...and we are to believe that eventual windfall from a corp/group doesn't sway their votes...ya, right, and I have a bridge for sale..)
All too true
Thats just great..we are paying them to fight the bad guys in ther own country when our own people here are in need of aid. When will the government stop spending our taxed payed dollars on everyone else and fix our problems first here at home