I am not buying this one too. He was pushed! I might be wrong, but I am going to be stubborn on this one...he was pushed!

What? I think this Navy officer was set up in more ways than one.

This Navy man is flying to Los Angeles and has a "bag" of white powder in his suitcase then is escorted to the parking lot because the john is occupied? Give me a break.

Something is wrong with this, sure looks like a setup, if that was his he would have known it was not coca in it so why would he try to escape, this just don't make sense ......

This is very odd. I don't buy this story. I hope some serious effort is put into this investigation.

I smell a rat somewhere in this story.

maybe he tried to buy some coke and was screwed on the deal, so then he though crap im caught. but since he got screwed on the deal he was fine?

Maybe it was a biologic - Anthrax or something else he was bringing home to his ex-love ones... or us.

I think Filipinos would rather take a leak outside anyway, so that doesn't seem bizarre. Take a drive anywhere in Manila and you'll see dudes assuming the pee pee stance along the side of the road or up against any random wall. There are signs posted everywhere that discourage taking a leak out in public.

For some reason this reminds me of "You can't handle the truth!"

Obvious set up

Why did the headline say he committed suicide? He was taken to a parking garage to relieve himself then jumped? I do not buy that for a second. He was set up then murdered!

A Fake drug arrest?

Ok, here is the senerio, couple buddies pull a prank by putting some sort of powder in a bag and plant it on him, knowing it will be found during the airport screening. No big deal, right? They run a test on the substance and he is on his way. Wrong, everything goes awry before hand and a guy loses his life.

I've heard of someone in the military who was returning to base from leave and started unpacking his luggage to discover that someone (apparently in the airport) had stuffed a huge bag full of loose pills into his suitcase. He had no idea what those pills were or where they came from. He was shocked and baffled and decided that the best course of action was simply to flush them all down the toilet in his dorm. What officer would believe you if you walked into his office and said, "Sir, I found these drugs, sir! I have no idea how they came to be in my luggage sir!" Crazy things do happen.

OR IT WAS COCAINE...........Until he jumped to his death... then it was some powder..........BULL5HIT

The TRUTH will never be known!

The TRUTH will never be known!

Ah yes, we'll put this case right behind the file concerning the "mysterious missile" off the coast of California...

I have to agree. I'm baffled as to why the officer was escorted to the parking lot instead of just waiting for the restroom to clear up. My best guess is that there was a porta-potty in the parking lot, but the article doesn't mention one.

This article simply doesn't make any sense.

Heading back to America I do not think they wanted him out of the way he was heading that way anyway. Seems he thought he had purchased Cocaine and was ripped off.

Alright, listen up. In filipino culture, a lot of men there aren't "potty shy". They don't wait. Waiting doesn't make sense. They go anywhere where there's a backdrop to pee i.e. a tree, a wall, a corner, a post; hence why the police man took him outside to "relieve himself".

And what are you talking about a porta-potty? Porta-potties are non-existent in the Philippines. Everything around you is a porta-potty. That is our culture. That is our story. It all makes sense there.

What, you want the NIS involved..... the same group that brought us the homosexual love affair that went bad as being the cause of the explosion in the #2 turret aboard the USS Iowa? The NIS I knew couldn't find it's a$$ with both hands and a bloodhound.

This Naval Officer was set up, the whole thing stinks. I cannot see this Navy man jumping to his death in the sea. Corruption here.

There should be an investigation.

They have some good NIS folks on TV. Maybe it is worth asking them to get involved if the Government wont.

I mean, I would hate to have the President interrupt watching felons play football.

Some countries don't take well to people arguing with those in authority. The Filipino cops said that he threw the bag at one of them and probably didn't take being treated the way that the cops in other countries treat "suspects".

It would not surprise me if the Filipino cops threw him off the stairs for being "mouthy". They don't have the money or civil rights that we have in the States. Yeah the evil States....

the ncis could not investigate a simple car accident on our own military base here in the states and get it right. dead military not killed on the battlefield are just "paperwork" for them. i know this because my son was some of the "collateral damage" our military leaves everywhere they go.

MOS in Colorado They have some good NIS folks on TV. Maybe it is worth asking them to get involved if the Government wont.
I mean, I would hate to have the President interrupt watching felons play football.

Seriously you should have stopped after your first statement, because the second one was worse. This is going to be investigated by a few agencies, and I'm going to reserve judgement until it's over.

I am a veteran also and I saw more whitewash in the Navy than in any orchard. If the Navy doesn't like the evidence then it wasn't part of the story.

ok, i only read the article once, but i dont think he intentionally tried to kill himself. he jumped two stories, maybe he miscalculated the jump, or didnt think it was that high, people make rash decisions when panicked. and maybe he was tricked into buying fake coke. or maybe it is a new drug that isnt detected by normal testing.

also i think that they found out that it was not really drugs after they did the testing. could be wrong. there is a lot of explaining to do still. there needs to be some investigating.

C. Moakler..... You and me both! I wouldn't trust them to be able to solve a Nancy Drew Mystery

To FLYNAVY1 . What did the Navy do to you to make you hate it so much?

OR IT WAS COCAINE...........Until he jumped to his death... then it was some powder..........BULL5HIT

Therese Nelson @ 2.2, let me ask you did you even read the story? He didn't jump into the sea. It was off of a parking garage and he hit the pavement below. Now come back and make a rational statement.

This definately smells... I'm sure has something to do with the US stopping payments to the Filipino's for their service to the US.

I'm also quite confident this officer was innocent and did not commit suicide.

As for NCIS and CID, I've worked with many of these people through the JAG office and I have a lot more confidence in them that I do with the Filipino Govt.! A lot more and they should be involved no matter what this officer was in the Navy!

willy lump lump.....No I had a great enlistment in the Navy. Very rewarding, and I got much more out than I put in.

My problem is with the Naval Investigative Service... NIS... From both first hand experience, and reading about some of their other investigations (USS Iowa Explosion), in the 1980s and 1990s they made the Keystone Cops look good.

Regards

darryl,

You are right, this article is so ridiculous stated this Naval Officer was being escorted to relieve himself in the public parking lot, the account was they took him handcuffed to the parking lot to relieve himself by way of the stairway because the privy was occupied, and this Navy man ran back up the stairway to the second floor and jumped?

How ignorant is that?

Fake drugs? Fake arrest? Maybe there was no plastic bag of white powder in this Navy man's luggage.

If this is not the most ridiculous mess, I do not believe any of it.

Oh yeah, that is sensible.

OR IT WAS COCAINE...........Until he jumped to his death... then it was some powder..........BULL5HIT

imrightnotyou

To repeaedly post the exact same comment over and over is a violation of the COH.

Please stop.

Based on what...fake drugs?!

Everyone calling for an investigation needs to chill out. Nick46 already solved the case from the limited info in the article. He's a true genia$$.

I seriously doubt that this officer was dirty and as a mother of a Navel Chief I am offended that anyone would think that our Navy men would do such a thing. I am not saying that it probably hasn't happened, but if I were a betting person I would have to say that he was pushed. An innocent person military or non military isn't going to jump when they know that they have done nothing wrong. You can bet that the Navy will be investigating this one big time as they should be. They need to find out why one of their officers on his way back to the states supposedly took his life over nothing.

Exactly, Breezy! I agree with you 100%.

Innocent people are not supposed to confess to crimes either, but our US prisons are full of innocent people who confessed or plead for fear of more severe penalties if they lost in court.

I imagine this officer imagined 20+ years in a foreign prison and took what he thought was the easy way out.

Tragedies like this are inevitable blow-backs of our War-on-Drugs.

So, I have two questions here... 1) What WAS in that bag? and 2) Did he fall down, or UP the stairs!?

"Those aren't my drugs!" - every drug-smuggling perp

OR IT WAS COCAINE...........Until he jumped to his death... then it was some powder..........BULL5HIT

Breezy....I hate to break this to ya, but there are rapist, murderer's, pedophiles and whatever else you want to name in the NAVY. The military as a whole is only a mere microcosm of society, hence the UCMJ and military prisons!

I'm not saying he was guilty, but to think that he was innocent simply because he was an officer in the military is very naive to say the least.

Sad. Another dead American, courtesy of the 'War on Drugs.'

You'd think we would eventually learn that such a 'War' is an embarrassing failure. But here we are, four decades into it, no progress, no real successes, and nothing but more money being funneled into this fiasco.

Yeah, let's just do away with drug laws, and then we can stand back and watch the population just sink into complete oblivion, you moron! You are a druggie, so "lets make it all legal" ... the population has been dumbed down already by the liberal education system we have allowed to develop in this country. This would be an opportunity to take it the rest of the way to the bottom. It is just like ol' Kruschev said back in the 60's ... "we will bury America and never fire a shot!" Guess what ... they are.

We are 90 years into the Drug War.

people, it's apparent, you don't know filipinos because this has nothing to do with drugs.

Well, you got me Jane, what with him being arrested for cocaine and all....

Sherry,

My sentiments as well, they tried to set this Naval Officer up and then they just offed him. I do not think he just jumped.

The whole story is just wrong. The bathrooms inside were all full so let's take a walk outside? I doubt we will ever know the full story and it is unfortunate for the officer who lost his life. He won't be remembered as someone who served for his country, he will be remembered for the guy who had fake drugs in his bags and then jumped to his death.

How do you know he was innocent? Maybe he tried to buy drugs and was screwed on the deal?

Maybe he thought that by jumping he MIGHT escape a frame-up he knew he COULDN'T escape otherwise. His escape attempt failed when he landed on his noggin.

Or maybe the person for whom he was 'muling' was DEA and gave him talcum just to complete the sting. There are tons of explanations why the guy decided to jump. Unfortunately, the only one who knows ain't talking . . .

Sherry......YES!

From what what was in the article, the reported events sound like a coverup for the murder of the Naval officer. However, if a security video surfaces clearly showing the guy jumping to his death, then I would share hmmmm's scenario of events.

Where did you read that he knew he was innocent? He could have been given bad stuff and thought it was real. Hard to make a judgment in this case without more facts.

Why are people so quick to scream "cover up" whenever something odd happens? Maybe he was just crazy.

have any of you ever been to a philippine airport? there is corruption from the constabulary to the taxi driver ...

YEAHHHH SMART THINKING SCREMINMIMI .. "how was he to know his request would get him outside two stories up instead of to the restroom?" GOOD OBSERVATION

Considering the time of year, the LCDR was probably visiting family for Christmas. They still do that in the Philippines, and he was originally from there.

Did you actually read the article?

@Debbie

My guess would be it was as he stated, 'that he was set up'. If he didn't know the 'powder' was in his bag to begin with (which I believe he didn't), how would he know it WASN'T cocaine? This would explain his 'acting so strange', he was angered and then perhaps momentariy panicked which is very understandable. I will be watching this story. Very sad case.

If you were facing 20+ years in a Philippine prison, death might appear to be a releaf whether you are guilty or not. The Drug-War was always deadly business that has killed many times more people than it has saved.

People who support the War-on-Drugs are just plain evil and should be treated as such. Drug-War supporters are sociopaths.

hell yah

Who let Geraldo out of Jimmy Hoffa's vault?

I know I know he say as he waves his hand back and forth, it was

Al Capone.

NCIS stands for NO COMMON INTELLIGENCE (SENSE); they couldn't find a foxhole in a battlefield, even if the fox was still in it!!! The brass behind the desks getting our boys killed are a shame and a disgrace to those on the front lines.

So you believe Filipinos are somehow genetically inferior to whites?

You said it he didn't LOL

wow, you're really an american...