Should not take the jury more than 10 minutes to deliberate, find him guilty, and send him on a one way trip to Death Row where he and his so called wife both belong!
ed-navy doc ; first they order coffee, the first vote is for guility, then they will have to draw straws, to see who gets the pleasure to shoot the SOB !
She sure is. I can't imagine how she survived. This young woman is testiment to the strength of humanity. The kidnapper says something about the depravity of humanity.
During the trial, Mitchell was removed daily from the courtroom for singing hymns and disrupting proceedings.
This seems like a good way to ensure you're convicted instead of getting an insanity deal. I wonder what the success rate for 'acting an ass when trying to argue insanity' is.
Charles Manson was insane as well but also evil and extremely dangerous.
Some people talk about "mental illness" as though it was a bacterial infection: Give the afflicted a course of antibiotics and they will soon be all better. The sort of psychosis this man exhibits doesn't get better, he has always been like that and he will always be like that and he is DANGEROUS!
I don't believe in the death penalty but imprisonment to the end of his natural life is the appropriate sentence.
Wanda Barzee is in prison for her role, but i believe she is as much a victim as Elizabeth Smart. Wanda was mentally ill and manipulated by Mitchell. She pleaded guilty after medication helped her not be delusional, she knows what she did was wrong, but I still can't help but feel sorry for her.
Wait for it... wait for it... guess what's coming to you now Mr. Mitchell? A prison cell for life. A life which will be lived in constant fear of being raped by other prisoners and of being tortured and murdered by them for what you did. They don't take kindly to child molesters and/or rapists.
Payback is a bi*ch isn't it? I don't condone it. It's hard to want the same thing to happen to him. But for some, I just can't help it.
Sorry how is this a major news item? There is nothing here which can add value to the real struggles of everyday people and our society as a whole. Just another isolated incident which had a good outcome but in the end has no effect on the world or the economy as a whole.
no see we cant send him to death row what we need to do is slowlly torture him to the point he begs to be killed then pull a dexter and slowlly kill him while makeing him re live what he did to her from her point of view
If he was a man of god, and read the bible, he would know there are two things you cannot be forgiven if you do. One is to blaspheme God, the other is to harm a child. His greatest punishment will be after his death, which one can only hope will be soon.
Sorry how is this a major news item? There is nothing here which can add value to the real struggles of everyday people and our society as a whole. Just another isolated incident which had a good outcome but in the end has no effect on the world or the economy as a whole.
You're right. With everything going on in the world right now hearing about justice actually being served is just worthless. You should change your name. Unless you are just claiming to be "Cerebrally Superior" to an amoeba.
EDIT: Never mind. I just took a look at most of your previous posts and it's obvious you are a troll who is angry at the world.
Cerebrally Superior....I believe that it does show that once in a while our justice system works. It gives me hope for our justice system. And if it is so unimportant, why did you bother to comment? I am sure that you being so superior and all, you must have better things to do. And what makes you so superior anyway???
Calling me a "troll" only confirms that it is you who is angry.
Please do not confuse pragmatism with anger...I would like to do away with the fabricated "feel good" stories and deal with more substantive issues that can have a positive impact in the world.
If you choose to wallow in insipid waters and let the world move on without you then so be it. Doesn't mean those who have more substantial ideas should be condemned.
Cerebrally you are a troll and don't state that this is not news because it is, there are dozens upon dozens of articles on MSNBC on a multitued of subjects, from the heading you would of known what this article was about and should have avoided it for more stimulating reading but instead you decided to stop and read and leave a stupid comment. Next time just stfu and avoided looking like a pompass ass!
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I give you the matter of justice but it is not what it seems. This is/was a case in which there was excessive media attention which probably served to influence the outcome. What about the thousands of cases of inner city people of color which never make the light of day. Odds are you and your fellow "justice prevailed" flag waving friends here probably could care less for those kind of people. I on the other hand am realize that such hypocrisy only serves to erode the very foundation upon which our country was built. And to continue this course only guarantees we will wind up on a short road to chaos.
The only way to ensure survival is to void ourselves of this strong propensity to let our emotions lead our actions instead of pure logic.
So now we only care because she is white?!?! You are a FOOL, there have been many stories over the years that have captivated the hearts of many people involving whites, blacks, greens, blues, yellows and all other colors of people. WOW that is all I can say to your ignorant racially spirited way of thought!
Cerebrally Superior, you're welcome to seed, write and discuss news that you think is more noteworthy. You began discussing the topic, but 'why is this news?' is generally a derail.
Kidnappings that end with the kidnapped recovered tend to get a lot of media attention in the U.S. This one was particularly sordid. I'm not surprised it's front page news.
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You are a FOOL
ScottHutch, cut it out. You're new, get familiar with the rules.
This is/was a case in which there was excessive media attention which probably served to influence the outcome. What about the thousands of cases of inner city people of color which never make the light of day.
We can't care about those because you already said there are far more important things. In fact, you really shouldkn't even be on this thread. You need to be talking about those important things rather than wallowing here in the cesspool. Go ahead. Go to those more important stories (unless you actually like "wallowing").
ScottHutch
You are obviously overcharged with hostility and emotion over this case...like many people swept up in media overdose, it has consumed you and prevents you from discussing this (or any other matter) with venomous retorts.
I speak in fact, believe me I have no intent of embracing any sort of racial ideologies. If you cannot not respond in kind then please ignore my post and go join others like yourself who would rather languish in a blissful state of ignorance.
Cerebrally...do not presume to know what I care about and what I do not. It only further proves your ignorance. If I find that, for once, justice is served that is my opinion to give. I, and everyone here, knows that there are injustices happening every second in this country. If we chose to comment on the one positive article among thousands of negative, we all have that right. You sound like an arrogant fool who wants others to think that you are intelligent. And for the record, I believe that our country was founded by people who let their emotions and strong beliefs lead their actions. People that were not afraid to stand up for what they believed in and that, sir or madam, takes more emotion that logic.
right, anyway <..<' i don't think death row is appropriate, i think he should be tossed in with the general population in a prison and the other inmates probably already know what he's done. if this happens, he is likely to be beaten, raped, and even killed by the other inmates. its happened before, which is why pedophiles and kidnappers are generally placed in other prisons.
You are quite right in that we are constantly distracted from real issuses by smoke and mirrors however when a child is abused its never a fluff story. The real issue here is people giving a damn about this animals mental health and whether or not to put him down.
There is no way any reasonable person can belive this animal has value to society. The time spent so far on this issue may have been helpful to the child so its not a waste however putting this animal down now is the only reasonable course.
You speak of the world so maybe you are one of the problems here and you belive we need to help the world. To hell with the world and worry about the community you live in and the people who should be your neighbors. Those who live across the Oceans are not intrested in you or what you belive.
Ms. Smart is a neighbor and you should care about what has happened to her and what is done with the animal who stole her innocence. You could be next but by the grace of God.
The guilty plea is in--Life Prison Sentence, almost too good for this worm.
The Defense Attorney must be scum also. Now this kind of representation is GREED. Real Greed, unless it was Pro Bono.
The Attorney who took this case, must have been doing it for publicity to get more deviant clients off the hook. Attorneys like this are as bad as their clients.
The article states he could get life when sentenced. Actually, I can’t see any other sentence other than life without possibility of parole for him. Any lesser sentence would be unacceptable.
At this point any further attempt on my part to share ideas is an exercise in futility. When I asked if this was newsworthy was to discuss the impact of these media-hyped cases and how in spite of being portrayed as "feel-good" actually does more harm than good. That was my intent...to discuss not to get into name calling.
I apologize for the intelligence of my remarks for I did not know this was a "think and believe our way or you're a troll" discussion.
I missed that part. Please point out to me where the intelligent remarks you made were and I will gladly respond.
Trying to incite people who are genuinely happy that a feel good story was posted where justice was served is sad. This is why I called you a troll. It's even more sad that you believe you have a higher intellect. A shame actually.
I am glad the story was posted, I am happy for Elizabeth, I am happy for the posters who get to see justice served and another sick individual off the streets. I am sure I am not the only one that can say this is VERY important to our society. When we no longer look at the brighter side of life and feel good for and about each other we are doomed.
If he was a man of god, and read the bible, he would know there are two things you cannot be forgiven if you do. One is to blaspheme God ...
I am cooked! He won't even accept an apology? Jesus effin Christ! ... I mean Cheese n Rice!
oldman - by saying ridiculous things like this, you might just sway bad people to never change their ways, since you have implied that changing their ways would not benefit them ... unless of course, they were to become enlightened to the truly peaceful prospects and personal satisfaction that is atheism.
The guilty plea is in--Life Prison Sentence, almost too good for this worm.
People in prison have kids and they don't take this stuff lightly. Knowing what he will receive in prison should give people a sense of justice, considering the best our government can do is put him to sleep peacefully.
Next headline - "Kidnapper found hanging in cell by own underwear"
I have never understood the insanity plea for innocence. If he was crazy, which they have determined he is not, then why not Guilty by reason of Insanity?
Elizabeth Smart's ordeal is almost finished; a joyous life to her.
Let's see, pedophile, narcissist, delusions of grandeur - do ya' think? So the defense's reasoning is that because he's sick it somehow makes him innocent. All the more reason to lock him up and throw away the key. Forever. But why does it take our judicial system so long to take care of these matters. (Btw, I especially hate when sociopaths claim that God told them to do it.)
I pray that Elizabeth and her family can now get on w/ their lives. And may it be filled w/ love, joy and peace.
If you have so many other topics that you feel would be better discussion matter for a person like your self, then click on that story and piss people off there. By doing nothing except belittling the complexity of this story you are doing nothing except showing your own bigotry towards other peoples interest and views. Just because you think that an article is mindless and unnecessary, does not mean that everyone else does. And I believe you know this but it makes you feel superior to act like you are not one of the "sheep" but in fact your mere presence on this blog certifies that you are indeed one of us. If you do not feel this way, then delete your News Vine account and go else where.
I believe David Mitchell felt the same way regarding his personal beliefs...you see where he ended up.
You are not called a "troll" because you do not "think and believe our way," but merely because your ranting (and that is ALL it is) is easily understood by the average reader as a means of dissentience. You fail to convince anyone that even you believe in every concept you throw out, clearly without thinking it through. (Somehow, I would expect this contradict your self-claims of "intelligence.") Really, this is a classic example of one who, knowing they cannot gain much attention by agreeing with the majority, draws attention to himself/herself by voicing an opposing view, even if he/she is not entirely committed to that opinion. Strange you would pursue this course of action, seeing as if you were truly comfortable in your "superiority," you would not feel the need to defend your status, least of all, in taking to a (more or less) useless venue such as this news vine. You have not been able to successfully defend your claims of intelligence, which requires measuring up to an accepted impartial standard, rather than relying on your own flawed perceptions.
One of the best ways to reduce or Federal and State deficits is to reduce the prison population by eliminating the garbage. You and I as tax payers should not have to pay for the room and board, health care, safety and education cost of the ever growing prison farm animal population. Some garbage was not meant to be kept around.
If your local newspaper covers "the real struggles of everyday people and our society as a whole", they must drop it off on your front porch with an end loader.
One thing is missing from this story. The absolutely incomprehensible stupidity of the Salt Lake City Police Department during this whole ordeal. The level of stupid from the SLCPD breaks all barriers to the most notorious botched investigations this country has seen. I lived in Utah at this time, and I remember the numerous leads, suspects and other BS they would try to sell the media while they fumbled over this case.
Elizebeth, I hope you have found some kind of closure with this verdict. I'm glad your ordeal is over for the most part, and at no thanks whatsoever to the SLCPD.
Insane, or not, this is one element that needs to be removed from society. Permanently. Don't even waste our tax money on a prison cell for life for this guy.
Another one to take care of behind bars for life. 3 squares a day, a job, rest period play grounds, and a bed to sleep in, all the books and tv you can handle. This adds to the federal deficit when states have to go begging for money to take care of life time criminals. Enjoy America.
No, Marchant, Mitchell's attorney's are part of what makes America great. Here, no matter how unpopular you are or how much everyone hates you, you get tried by a Court of Law, not a Court of Public Opinion. Nor are you subject to mob justice. Mitchell, I'm willing to bet, did not have a boatload of suits waiting to represent him. A judge had to appoint his attorney's, and when that happens, you either represent the client to the best of your ability or you lose your license to practice law.
Now America can feel good and turn its back on the thousands of more deserving less media-hyped cases of abductions/rapes and murders while you become a best-selling author.
All abductions receive intense media focus. In addition, perhaps you have heard of Amber Alerts? They break in on radio and TV and alerts show up on road signs everywhere on major highways and Interstates.
You can also receive alerts from the FBI and your State Police via the web if you sign up, as well as on your cell phone at no charge to you. I encourage you to look into these alternatives and sign up for them, so that you will feel better about how abductions are handled.
My God man, there is a story on MSNBC today of a man who was found with the girl he abducted. How was he apprehended? Someone saw them and recognized them from the intense media focus that the case and all others like it receive! What a shocker.
It's really important that you become more educated on how to better fight such crimes. You are part of the solution. Unless, of course, you are merely trying to incite other posters. We'll determine that when we read your reply.
As far as her becoming a best selling author, that is pure speculation on your part. In fact, it has been the perpetrators themselves who always tried to profit from their crimes in the past, not the victims. These types of stories are peppered all over the internet.
You are wrong when you state ALL abductions. The only ones that receive AMBER alerts are Caucasian children...not people of colour. Philosophically I do not have a problem with this but practically speaking here is the flaw with this current bias.
First, any sort of system, be it law enforcement, religion, etc., that has inconsistent applications creates a huge potential for irrational behavior that governs public thought. We are facing challenging times and need to rid ourselves of useless emotions when making corrective decisions. Hypocrisy is like a plague which is slowly destroying our society.
Just so we are clear, I am all for justice of the scoundrels who commit these and any sort of crimes in society. Where I differ from people like yourself is I objectively and without any emotion can apply the laws equally to all in every situation. No exceptions, no quarter. This type of methodology is the only way to bring universal order to our society and to curb the high levels of frustrations that you and others feel in dealing with your daily lives.
Cerebrally, don't you think that Miss Smart is showing the other countless victims (that you seem to feel are more deserving of press time) there is hope and the future can be positive even though they have been through a terrible incident?
Instead of ignoring my posts and at least trying to respond in a clear lucid manner you continue to regurgitate the same thing over and over.
Any further attempt to have a civil discussion with you is a waste of time so let's just agree to disagree and both move on.
You are the one who expunge the personal attacks yet you keep projecting your maladies upon me...it would behoove you to get some professional help on this.
I hate to quote Macbeth this early in the morning, but you are full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
In this case, it is truly sad. Once again, I encourage you to educate yourself on child abduction.
Beyond that, I'm at a loss to help you with your issues. Your advise on professional help is duly noted, considering it is most likely being given by someone who is currently receiving it....I hope.
I've dealt with CS before. If you are waiting to have a fact-based discussion with him, I'm afraid you will be waiting a long time. He makes outrageous statements, and when people confront him, he accusses them of the very things he is doing. In all my discussions with him, he is full of hot air but very little substance.
She sure is. One of the strongest. She has indeed kept her head up high and is a proud example of what a person can be! Her captor is a testiment of the depravity of humanity.
She has been on a mission. She is back in SLC for the trial. (She is a witness for the prosecution.) She will be retuning to France to finish her mission. When she returns next spring, this clown will be sentenced. They are postponing his sentencing to meet her schedule.
On another note, since he was found guilty today all I can say is good. Now maybe she can get on with her life without having to look over her shoulder to see if this guy is following. I hope he gets a sentence of LIFE in federal prison. I also hope they try and convict him in state court. That way if he ever manages to get out of federal prison, he can go straight to state prison to start serving another life sentence.
True Lynn, but Convicts have their own form of "Justice". Put him in with the general public. He won't last long. And just think. We won't have to pay for the years he would have been on Death Row.
How come sentences like this of a truly evil rapist, do not come with the demand for castration, by the Law? Or are they made to take a pill to kill their sex drive?
Imagine other Prisoners, if he gets out for exercise, etc. will kill him. So there may be Do Process of Law.
Most likely they will put this beast in Isolation.
Now now, people. It is probably not his fault you know. It is no longer politically correct to actually place blame directly on a person. Somehow it must be society's fault. Just check all the recent posts concerning Cabrini Greens and the plight of Haiti and all of Obama's failures. I guess "WE" failed them all somewhere, somehow during their lives. Here this poor man had to grow up looking just like Charles Manson.
I hope everyone realizes I am only being facetious. Hang him by his ballz and do it publicly.
Elizabeth Smart is fortunate to have broken away from this one...I suspect many victims don't survive their ordeal of being forcibly controlled by crims that quote scripture to justify the evil that they do in their physical and psychological enslavement of innocents.
It will never happen Lynn. Americans have voted for prison rights and in fact they have more rights than the average citizen. Just give him your tax dollars so he can spend the rest of his life with the American public paying the tab till he dies of natural causes.
Actually, I think when people are as crazy as this, it should give officials a better incentive to give him the needle, or, prefferably, a hangman's knot.
He is headed to prison, need to give him and haircut and a clean shaving and if his throat gets cut in the process well then we might save a few tax dollars. Off with his head I say!
No jail or prison. He raped this girl almost daily. There is no rehabilitation for this, only the electric chair. Too delusional? Not to delusional to rape her almost daily. Our justice system is pathetic.
Remove him from life. Give him the chair or lethal injection. I'd even approve strapping him onto dirty bombs and being exploded into 10,000 pieces for taking Smart's childhood away.
"We shall render the weak, the disabled and the feeble of mind as detriments of the moral structure of the fatherland. Indeed it is a humane cause not to house these souls in institutes known to abuse their already tortured souls but to release their souls from the indignity, pain and humiliation of their bind to life. If it were of their own free will to decide their fate in the face of their mental or physical issues they would surely pray to be put to death for peace. And as a compassionate race we shall make certain their wishes are carried out as they would themselves choose"
Wanna guess where this quote came from? Nah, didn't think you did.
I will say what you are all thinking "Cut his stinking head off and toss his body in a ditch somewhere to rot!" That is all this POS deserves to get from me or anyone else.
Fred, you're assuming this con-artist was mentally incapable of knowing he shouldn't kidnap and rape a 14 year old girl almost daily. If he didn't know any better, why did he go to such lengths to hide his crimes for so long?
Answer: He knew from day one that what he was doing was wrong.
People who are truly delusional are people who are TOTALLY disconnected from reality and have no idea of right and wrong. This guy is just a mean, hard hearted, narcissistic, savage who decided to follow through on his fantasy to have this girl, not as a "wife", but as a toy, sex-slave. Hang him, shoot him, inject him or electrocute him.....but by all means, remove him from this world.
I thought you were a bleeding heart liberal who was buying into his insanity plea, but after re-reading your post, I'm assuming you're coming to the same ultimate conclusion many of us have come to, whether he is crazy (which I personally don't buy) or not.
The only problem with the death penalty is that it ends his capacity for suffering. If you are looking for revenge you need to think of something he can suffer, recover, repeat, suffer, recover, repeat. Death is too good for this guy.
Mentally ill my arse. He's nothing more than a drugged out predator. He and his ilk serve no positive purpose in this or any society. Off him. I'm really tired of paying for these %$#*ers 'rehabilitation' only to have them out of jail and free to destroy more innocents.
I know that seems harsh. But when it comes to pedophiles and predators, I have no sympathy. Protect my innocent familly. Not these people.
You make a good point. We all have a little bit of crazy in us. We all have a part of us within that wants to do things that aren't right; and I seriously can't even begin to imagine what kind of depravity would make a man even briefly contemplate the idea of harming a child, or for that matter a woman. Nevertheless, there is an animal within all of us, and by that measure, we are upright citizens because we choose to suppress our darker side; and so unless we may conclude that this criminal did not exercise free choice, we may deductively know that he acted by choice and is thus accountable as a human being both capable of and expected to sound reason.
I do not suggest that we kill him or torture him; but I do not believe that the man should be free. Thankfully, it does not appear that there is any question about his release. Whether in a hospital or a regular prison, he will be kept off of the streets, and that is good.
I don't know anyone who isn't crazy. I like cold weather and I tell people "If it's survivable, deal with it", and they think I'm crazy. But this isn't crazy. It's coldblooded insanity, and it's insane to use insanity as an excuse for these horrible crimes.
JoshuaH-594494, if this were your daughter, your mother, your sister, or any woman you love, you would change your mind about wanting to torture and kill him.
Allowing these types of people who are demented and cruel to live is obnoxious. And anyone who believes he should breathe another day is even more obnoxious.
Personally, I've always held the belief that any sicko Convicted of rape/kidnapping of a child or an elderly woman should be handed over the families of their victims for...lets say an hour before they are taken away to prison. Who knows, doing that on a regular basis may decrease the prison population in this country.
She will and so will the rest of us. We will all be spending our tax dollars in the meantime to take care of him for life just like we have for years and years in the case of the Charles Manson family.
sanity defense is crazy... the only exception is if a person is diagnosed prior to comitting the crime... period... if not previously diagnosed, then let him recieve his treatment in jail...
and should he be found insane, then when he is sane, he can stand trial.. until then keep him institutionalized...
Elizabeth's ordeal is behind her, but she faces years of getting her life back. He deserves nothing more than to be thrown in prison and let nature take its course.
Stay strong Elizabeth!! May you find some peace when this man is taken out of society.
Elizabeth is a woman (and was as a child) of great faith. It is her faith and trust in the Lord that got her through this ordeal. She is tryly an amazing person, and is serving a mission for her church in France. She only took a break from her missionary work to return for this trial to testify. I'm sure she will return to France to continue her work as soon as possilbe.
It is no doubt with her strength of character and great faith that she will live lilfe to the fullest and put all this behind her. She has a loving family and community to support her.
They allow time for family, lawyers & press to return to be present when the verdict is read. You don't know if the jury will take 10 minutes or 10 days to return a verdict.
This guy needs to be taken out back and put down like the rabbid dog he is.
We could solve our prison problems and costs to operate them if we rapidly executed the pieces of sh!t like this, and freed or put on house arrest the non violent offenders.
It costs close to $80,000 to house a convict, one day of that costs is too much for people like this.
But just think about what is going to happen to him in prison. He will soon feel what it is like to be raped on a daily basis. I'm for the jail justice.
I'd rather he get removed from society i.e. the chair or the hangman's knot. However, now that I think about it, once he gets into prison (preferably with no protection), and the other prisoners learn what he's done...yeah, let's just say this is the end of Mr. Mitchell...erhem, *itchell.
This jerk may like prison and inflick his daily routine on a younger weaker inmate. I say cut it off, he does not need it. At 16 he was showing it to 8 year olds
You can make fire for free by rubbing two pieces of branch together hard enough. Send this bastard into a fire pit and douse him with some Kingsford lighter. That'll be the same (if not more) punishment that Smart had to go through with this SOB.
You obviously haven't bought a .50 round before then? As for insane... there is no sanity in Utah but there are a whole bunch of good gun totting folk that would be willing to do it for free regardless of the caliber of bullet.
Put him in a mental institution for the rest of his life. If he's really mentally ill it's the right thing to do. just kep him off the streets, period.
That's what he wanted, therefore the theatrics. There is a LOT more freedom in a mental hospital than in prison. He is truly of a criminal mind and deserves no less.
As long s he's off the streets, I don't care if he's happy as a clown for the rest of his life. There's no justice man can serve for that kind of disgusting behavior. Leave judgement to God, and he'll get a nice warm place to stay, don't worry.
Elizabeth, we have watched you for years and have wondered how this will affect your life in years to come. Whatever justice is reached, as far as I'm conerned, it will not be harsh enough for this undesirable to suffer.
Should not take the jury more than 10 minutes to deliberate, find him guilty, and send him on a one way trip to Death Row where he and his so called wife both belong!
ed-navy doc ; first they order coffee, the first vote is for guility, then they will have to draw straws, to see who gets the pleasure to shoot the SOB !
She sure is. I can't imagine how she survived. This young woman is testiment to the strength of humanity. The kidnapper says something about the depravity of humanity.
This seems like a good way to ensure you're convicted instead of getting an insanity deal. I wonder what the success rate for 'acting an ass when trying to argue insanity' is.
Technically the guy is insane. The jury has to realize this. He should still be held accountable, but he is definitely insane.
Charles Manson was insane as well but also evil and extremely dangerous.
Some people talk about "mental illness" as though it was a bacterial infection: Give the afflicted a course of antibiotics and they will soon be all better. The sort of psychosis this man exhibits doesn't get better, he has always been like that and he will always be like that and he is DANGEROUS!
I don't believe in the death penalty but imprisonment to the end of his natural life is the appropriate sentence.
Tyler:
This subhuman is, and always was a sicko--he knows how to play the "fiddle" to the Jury.
No one on the Jury will buy his Insanity plea.
The act is and the terror on this girl at 14 must have been unimaginable.
He and Manson might make good cell mates.
Future History:
Great comparison. Manson still lives and talks to the who ever will listen, being interviewed as a fascinating person by the Media.
Say What? He is a Cult figure to many Americans.
This story doesn't mention it, but he only breaks out into random singing in court. he doesn't feel the need to sing hymns in his cell.
He's an actor, and a poor one, and he's gonna spend the rest of his miserable useless life in jail.
Guilty! Hallelujiah!!
Wanda Barzee is in prison for her role, but i believe she is as much a victim as Elizabeth Smart. Wanda was mentally ill and manipulated by Mitchell. She pleaded guilty after medication helped her not be delusional, she knows what she did was wrong, but I still can't help but feel sorry for her.
Wait for it... wait for it... guess what's coming to you now Mr. Mitchell? A prison cell for life. A life which will be lived in constant fear of being raped by other prisoners and of being tortured and murdered by them for what you did. They don't take kindly to child molesters and/or rapists.
Payback is a bi*ch isn't it? I don't condone it. It's hard to want the same thing to happen to him. But for some, I just can't help it.
I hope he gets raped daily in the joint...
That was quick. I'll never forget and we can Youtube "Elizabeth Smart Tear up Nancy Grace." Elizabeth is a strong Woman!
Sorry how is this a major news item? There is nothing here which can add value to the real struggles of everyday people and our society as a whole. Just another isolated incident which had a good outcome but in the end has no effect on the world or the economy as a whole.
no see we cant send him to death row what we need to do is slowlly torture him to the point he begs to be killed then pull a dexter and slowlly kill him while makeing him re live what he did to her from her point of view
If he was a man of god, and read the bible, he would know there are two things you cannot be forgiven if you do. One is to blaspheme God, the other is to harm a child. His greatest punishment will be after his death, which one can only hope will be soon.
Suppose he'll sing hymns in there too?
You're right. With everything going on in the world right now hearing about justice actually being served is just worthless. You should change your name. Unless you are just claiming to be "Cerebrally Superior" to an amoeba.
EDIT: Never mind. I just took a look at most of your previous posts and it's obvious you are a troll who is angry at the world.
Cerebrally Superior....I believe that it does show that once in a while our justice system works. It gives me hope for our justice system. And if it is so unimportant, why did you bother to comment? I am sure that you being so superior and all, you must have better things to do. And what makes you so superior anyway???
Calling me a "troll" only confirms that it is you who is angry.
Please do not confuse pragmatism with anger...I would like to do away with the fabricated "feel good" stories and deal with more substantive issues that can have a positive impact in the world.
If you choose to wallow in insipid waters and let the world move on without you then so be it. Doesn't mean those who have more substantial ideas should be condemned.
Saxon, shooting this scum is a total waste of a good bullet. They can use a rope and let him slowly strangle from short rope with a long drop!
Cerebrally you are a troll and don't state that this is not news because it is, there are dozens upon dozens of articles on MSNBC on a multitued of subjects, from the heading you would of known what this article was about and should have avoided it for more stimulating reading but instead you decided to stop and read and leave a stupid comment. Next time just stfu and avoided looking like a pompass ass!
rivergirl
I give you the matter of justice but it is not what it seems. This is/was a case in which there was excessive media attention which probably served to influence the outcome. What about the thousands of cases of inner city people of color which never make the light of day. Odds are you and your fellow "justice prevailed" flag waving friends here probably could care less for those kind of people. I on the other hand am realize that such hypocrisy only serves to erode the very foundation upon which our country was built. And to continue this course only guarantees we will wind up on a short road to chaos.
The only way to ensure survival is to void ourselves of this strong propensity to let our emotions lead our actions instead of pure logic.
So now we only care because she is white?!?! You are a FOOL, there have been many stories over the years that have captivated the hearts of many people involving whites, blacks, greens, blues, yellows and all other colors of people. WOW that is all I can say to your ignorant racially spirited way of thought!
Cerebrally Superior, you're welcome to seed, write and discuss news that you think is more noteworthy. You began discussing the topic, but 'why is this news?' is generally a derail.
Kidnappings that end with the kidnapped recovered tend to get a lot of media attention in the U.S. This one was particularly sordid. I'm not surprised it's front page news.
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ScottHutch, cut it out. You're new, get familiar with the rules.
You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
robian, Cerebrally Superior, see above.
We can't care about those because you already said there are far more important things. In fact, you really shouldkn't even be on this thread. You need to be talking about those important things rather than wallowing here in the cesspool. Go ahead. Go to those more important stories (unless you actually like "wallowing").
ScottHutch
You are obviously overcharged with hostility and emotion over this case...like many people swept up in media overdose, it has consumed you and prevents you from discussing this (or any other matter) with venomous retorts.
I speak in fact, believe me I have no intent of embracing any sort of racial ideologies. If you cannot not respond in kind then please ignore my post and go join others like yourself who would rather languish in a blissful state of ignorance.
Cerebrally...do not presume to know what I care about and what I do not. It only further proves your ignorance. If I find that, for once, justice is served that is my opinion to give. I, and everyone here, knows that there are injustices happening every second in this country. If we chose to comment on the one positive article among thousands of negative, we all have that right. You sound like an arrogant fool who wants others to think that you are intelligent. And for the record, I believe that our country was founded by people who let their emotions and strong beliefs lead their actions. People that were not afraid to stand up for what they believed in and that, sir or madam, takes more emotion that logic.
EDIT: Hi Tyler
right, anyway <..<' i don't think death row is appropriate, i think he should be tossed in with the general population in a prison and the other inmates probably already know what he's done. if this happens, he is likely to be beaten, raped, and even killed by the other inmates. its happened before, which is why pedophiles and kidnappers are generally placed in other prisons.
Cerebrally and Tyler... I apologize for my use of the word fool in advance.
Cerebrally Superior
You are quite right in that we are constantly distracted from real issuses by smoke and mirrors however when a child is abused its never a fluff story. The real issue here is people giving a damn about this animals mental health and whether or not to put him down.
There is no way any reasonable person can belive this animal has value to society. The time spent so far on this issue may have been helpful to the child so its not a waste however putting this animal down now is the only reasonable course.
You speak of the world so maybe you are one of the problems here and you belive we need to help the world. To hell with the world and worry about the community you live in and the people who should be your neighbors. Those who live across the Oceans are not intrested in you or what you belive.
Ms. Smart is a neighbor and you should care about what has happened to her and what is done with the animal who stole her innocence. You could be next but by the grace of God.
The guilty plea is in--Life Prison Sentence, almost too good for this worm.
The Defense Attorney must be scum also. Now this kind of representation is GREED. Real Greed, unless it was Pro Bono.
The Attorney who took this case, must have been doing it for publicity to get more deviant clients off the hook. Attorneys like this are as bad as their clients.
The article states he could get life when sentenced. Actually, I can’t see any other sentence other than life without possibility of parole for him. Any lesser sentence would be unacceptable.
Rivergirl, tyler, robian et al.
At this point any further attempt on my part to share ideas is an exercise in futility. When I asked if this was newsworthy was to discuss the impact of these media-hyped cases and how in spite of being portrayed as "feel-good" actually does more harm than good. That was my intent...to discuss not to get into name calling.
I apologize for the intelligence of my remarks for I did not know this was a "think and believe our way or you're a troll" discussion.
Good day to you.
He and his wife should be fried just like any other child rapist on the earth.
Cerebrally Superior,
I missed that part. Please point out to me where the intelligent remarks you made were and I will gladly respond.
Trying to incite people who are genuinely happy that a feel good story was posted where justice was served is sad. This is why I called you a troll. It's even more sad that you believe you have a higher intellect. A shame actually.
I am glad the story was posted, I am happy for Elizabeth, I am happy for the posters who get to see justice served and another sick individual off the streets. I am sure I am not the only one that can say this is VERY important to our society. When we no longer look at the brighter side of life and feel good for and about each other we are doomed.
I am cooked! He won't even accept an apology? Jesus effin Christ! ... I mean Cheese n Rice!
oldman - by saying ridiculous things like this, you might just sway bad people to never change their ways, since you have implied that changing their ways would not benefit them ... unless of course, they were to become enlightened to the truly peaceful prospects and personal satisfaction that is atheism.
Marchant
People in prison have kids and they don't take this stuff lightly. Knowing what he will receive in prison should give people a sense of justice, considering the best our government can do is put him to sleep peacefully.
Next headline - "Kidnapper found hanging in cell by own underwear"
Cerebrally Superior.... I think "Brain Fart" is a more accurate moniker.
Mea Culpa Tyler...just couldn't help myself.
I have never understood the insanity plea for innocence. If he was crazy, which they have determined he is not, then why not Guilty by reason of Insanity?
Elizabeth Smart's ordeal is almost finished; a joyous life to her.
Let's see, pedophile, narcissist, delusions of grandeur - do ya' think? So the defense's reasoning is that because he's sick it somehow makes him innocent. All the more reason to lock him up and throw away the key. Forever. But why does it take our judicial system so long to take care of these matters. (Btw, I especially hate when sociopaths claim that God told them to do it.)
I pray that Elizabeth and her family can now get on w/ their lives. And may it be filled w/ love, joy and peace.
At: Cerebrally Challenged
If you have so many other topics that you feel would be better discussion matter for a person like your self, then click on that story and piss people off there. By doing nothing except belittling the complexity of this story you are doing nothing except showing your own bigotry towards other peoples interest and views. Just because you think that an article is mindless and unnecessary, does not mean that everyone else does. And I believe you know this but it makes you feel superior to act like you are not one of the "sheep" but in fact your mere presence on this blog certifies that you are indeed one of us. If you do not feel this way, then delete your News Vine account and go else where.
He looks like Charlie Manson's twin! Maybe they could share the same cell!
No!!!!!! Do away with this garbage right away!!!!
"Cerebally Superior":
I believe David Mitchell felt the same way regarding his personal beliefs...you see where he ended up.
You are not called a "troll" because you do not "think and believe our way," but merely because your ranting (and that is ALL it is) is easily understood by the average reader as a means of dissentience. You fail to convince anyone that even you believe in every concept you throw out, clearly without thinking it through. (Somehow, I would expect this contradict your self-claims of "intelligence.") Really, this is a classic example of one who, knowing they cannot gain much attention by agreeing with the majority, draws attention to himself/herself by voicing an opposing view, even if he/she is not entirely committed to that opinion. Strange you would pursue this course of action, seeing as if you were truly comfortable in your "superiority," you would not feel the need to defend your status, least of all, in taking to a (more or less) useless venue such as this news vine. You have not been able to successfully defend your claims of intelligence, which requires measuring up to an accepted impartial standard, rather than relying on your own flawed perceptions.
One of the best ways to reduce or Federal and State deficits is to reduce the prison population by eliminating the garbage. You and I as tax payers should not have to pay for the room and board, health care, safety and education cost of the ever growing prison farm animal population. Some garbage was not meant to be kept around.
Amen and NO appeals!!!!
God may forgive him, put the prison's general population won't.
Cerebrally Superior:
If your local newspaper covers "the real struggles of everyday people and our society as a whole", they must drop it off on your front porch with an end loader.
One thing is missing from this story. The absolutely incomprehensible stupidity of the Salt Lake City Police Department during this whole ordeal. The level of stupid from the SLCPD breaks all barriers to the most notorious botched investigations this country has seen. I lived in Utah at this time, and I remember the numerous leads, suspects and other BS they would try to sell the media while they fumbled over this case.
Elizebeth, I hope you have found some kind of closure with this verdict. I'm glad your ordeal is over for the most part, and at no thanks whatsoever to the SLCPD.
Insane, or not, this is one element that needs to be removed from society. Permanently. Don't even waste our tax money on a prison cell for life for this guy.
What a courageous young lady you are. Blessings to you for having prevailed!
I know right? Did it really have to take this long?
Another one to take care of behind bars for life. 3 squares a day, a job, rest period play grounds, and a bed to sleep in, all the books and tv you can handle. This adds to the federal deficit when states have to go begging for money to take care of life time criminals. Enjoy America.
No, Marchant, Mitchell's attorney's are part of what makes America great. Here, no matter how unpopular you are or how much everyone hates you, you get tried by a Court of Law, not a Court of Public Opinion. Nor are you subject to mob justice. Mitchell, I'm willing to bet, did not have a boatload of suits waiting to represent him. A judge had to appoint his attorney's, and when that happens, you either represent the client to the best of your ability or you lose your license to practice law.
tyler:
I believe your post #1.3 is in violation of your own Code of Honor. Do you get a day of suspension?
The Code of Honor refers to the way posters speak to other posters, not about people in the news.
I never thought I would want someone to actually fade away. (the unthinkable) Mitchell. He is human waste. Why does he have to take up space in jail.
Pure Evil never seen before, allowed to have a trial. Our Justice System is very patient with someone who should never have been put on this earth.
Elizabeth is a beautiful, young woman. How did she ever survive. My thoughts again. I cannot forget this terrible tragedy..
Great Elizabeth
Now America can feel good and turn its back on the thousands of more deserving less media-hyped cases of abductions/rapes and murders while you become a best-selling author.
What a joke
Cerebrally Superior:
All abductions receive intense media focus. In addition, perhaps you have heard of Amber Alerts? They break in on radio and TV and alerts show up on road signs everywhere on major highways and Interstates.
You can also receive alerts from the FBI and your State Police via the web if you sign up, as well as on your cell phone at no charge to you. I encourage you to look into these alternatives and sign up for them, so that you will feel better about how abductions are handled.
My God man, there is a story on MSNBC today of a man who was found with the girl he abducted. How was he apprehended? Someone saw them and recognized them from the intense media focus that the case and all others like it receive! What a shocker.
It's really important that you become more educated on how to better fight such crimes. You are part of the solution. Unless, of course, you are merely trying to incite other posters. We'll determine that when we read your reply.
As far as her becoming a best selling author, that is pure speculation on your part. In fact, it has been the perpetrators themselves who always tried to profit from their crimes in the past, not the victims. These types of stories are peppered all over the internet.
RiverDog
You are wrong when you state ALL abductions. The only ones that receive AMBER alerts are Caucasian children...not people of colour. Philosophically I do not have a problem with this but practically speaking here is the flaw with this current bias.
First, any sort of system, be it law enforcement, religion, etc., that has inconsistent applications creates a huge potential for irrational behavior that governs public thought. We are facing challenging times and need to rid ourselves of useless emotions when making corrective decisions. Hypocrisy is like a plague which is slowly destroying our society.
Just so we are clear, I am all for justice of the scoundrels who commit these and any sort of crimes in society. Where I differ from people like yourself is I objectively and without any emotion can apply the laws equally to all in every situation. No exceptions, no quarter. This type of methodology is the only way to bring universal order to our society and to curb the high levels of frustrations that you and others feel in dealing with your daily lives.
Cerebrally, don't you think that Miss Smart is showing the other countless victims (that you seem to feel are more deserving of press time) there is hope and the future can be positive even though they have been through a terrible incident?
I think that is why this is VERY newsworthy.
Cerebrally:
The claim that it is only for caucasion children is absolutely false. You are really grasping at straws. Just admit you're wrong and move on.
OR provide a link to back up your assertion.
You can't, so stop with the personal attacks. It doesn't work with me and makes you the fool.
RIverDog
Instead of ignoring my posts and at least trying to respond in a clear lucid manner you continue to regurgitate the same thing over and over.
Any further attempt to have a civil discussion with you is a waste of time so let's just agree to disagree and both move on.
You are the one who expunge the personal attacks yet you keep projecting your maladies upon me...it would behoove you to get some professional help on this.
Good day and good luck to you young man.
Yet, still no links. Go figure.
I hate to quote Macbeth this early in the morning, but you are full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
In this case, it is truly sad. Once again, I encourage you to educate yourself on child abduction.
Beyond that, I'm at a loss to help you with your issues. Your advise on professional help is duly noted, considering it is most likely being given by someone who is currently receiving it....I hope.
Elizabeth - your parents and your church set you up. Get as far away from SLC as fast as you can and don't look back.
Just how did her parents or church set her up, and what good does it do to say so?
I've dealt with CS before. If you are waiting to have a fact-based discussion with him, I'm afraid you will be waiting a long time. He makes outrageous statements, and when people confront him, he accusses them of the very things he is doing. In all my discussions with him, he is full of hot air but very little substance.
Steve
Just because I proved you wrong in some previous discussion is no reason to make such angry infantile slanderous statements here.
Please, let's be adult about this and realize the world if full of differing opinions.
Okay?
Maybe you should take your own advice, and quit making your own infantile, slanderous and angry accusations.
I think the only good cellmate for this guy is a 300 pounder named "Bubba"!
WHAT!!!! That guy should get the NOBEL Piece Prize!!!!! Look at the the Piece he already got!!!!
ELIZABETH SMART!!!!! HOTTER THAN SARA PALIN!!!!
Pretty sick Boris!
Elizabeth you are a strong woman. Keep your head high. You have so many behind you.
She sure is. One of the strongest. She has indeed kept her head up high and is a proud example of what a person can be! Her captor is a testiment of the depravity of humanity.
I wonder what she's up to today...
I believe she's a missionary for the LDS Church in France.
Prior to her trial she was serving as a missionary for her church (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) In France.
She has been on a mission. She is back in SLC for the trial. (She is a witness for the prosecution.) She will be retuning to France to finish her mission. When she returns next spring, this clown will be sentenced. They are postponing his sentencing to meet her schedule.
On another note, since he was found guilty today all I can say is good. Now maybe she can get on with her life without having to look over her shoulder to see if this guy is following. I hope he gets a sentence of LIFE in federal prison. I also hope they try and convict him in state court. That way if he ever manages to get out of federal prison, he can go straight to state prison to start serving another life sentence.
Kill Him
Yes, but castrate him first, in payment pay for the daily rape of an innocent child.
They need to put him in a crowed cell with the worst of the worst. They will kill him immediatley after beating and raping him for a while.
Unfortunately I do not think the death penalty is an allowed punishment for kidnapping and rape of a minor.
BUT I will gladly bribe a few prisoners to torture this man with daily rapes for 9 months THEN put a shank in him!
True Lynn, but Convicts have their own form of "Justice". Put him in with the general public. He won't last long. And just think. We won't have to pay for the years he would have been on Death Row.
How come sentences like this of a truly evil rapist, do not come with the demand for castration, by the Law? Or are they made to take a pill to kill their sex drive?
Imagine other Prisoners, if he gets out for exercise, etc. will kill him. So there may be Do Process of Law.
Most likely they will put this beast in Isolation.
I was going to flip crap if he wasn't found guilty.
Now now, people. It is probably not his fault you know. It is no longer politically correct to actually place blame directly on a person. Somehow it must be society's fault. Just check all the recent posts concerning Cabrini Greens and the plight of Haiti and all of Obama's failures. I guess "WE" failed them all somewhere, somehow during their lives. Here this poor man had to grow up looking just like Charles Manson.
I hope everyone realizes I am only being facetious. Hang him by his ballz and do it publicly.
Yet another crim using religion as a front.
Elizabeth Smart is fortunate to have broken away from this one...I suspect many victims don't survive their ordeal of being forcibly controlled by crims that quote scripture to justify the evil that they do in their physical and psychological enslavement of innocents.
It will never happen Lynn. Americans have voted for prison rights and in fact they have more rights than the average citizen. Just give him your tax dollars so he can spend the rest of his life with the American public paying the tab till he dies of natural causes.
AmericansAtWar
When I read your post I hear the monotone voice of Eeyore, the old grey donkey in my head.
It will never happen Lynn... Life is just so horrid and unfair...
It's no skin off my nose to pay taxes to keep this maggot off the streets.
The prisons are full of crazy people. Lock him up!!!
Actually, I think when people are as crazy as this, it should give officials a better incentive to give him the needle, or, prefferably, a hangman's knot.
If there are any people who deserved to get atomically nuked, this guy would be high on my list.
@ dandr004-
Hey good idea. Only, they should strap him to the nuke so he'll have some time to think about what he's done.
He is headed to prison, need to give him and haircut and a clean shaving and if his throat gets cut in the process well then we might save a few tax dollars. Off with his head I say!
Shave the creep's bug infested head and face.
Hose him down with bleach.
Then shove an Oscar up his you-know-what for his theatrics.
I really loved your post Ik734505
This guy needs to be removed from society permanently - crazy or not.
I think I'd vote for jail whether he's crazy or not.
Jail only means he gets to live to be crazy another day. Plus he'll be leeching on our money, so there's no good reason to keep him around.
No jail or prison. He raped this girl almost daily. There is no rehabilitation for this, only the electric chair. Too delusional? Not to delusional to rape her almost daily. Our justice system is pathetic.
This dirt bag needs to be removed from life--permanently.
Remove him from life. Give him the chair or lethal injection. I'd even approve strapping him onto dirty bombs and being exploded into 10,000 pieces for taking Smart's childhood away.
"We shall render the weak, the disabled and the feeble of mind as detriments of the moral structure of the fatherland. Indeed it is a humane cause not to house these souls in institutes known to abuse their already tortured souls but to release their souls from the indignity, pain and humiliation of their bind to life. If it were of their own free will to decide their fate in the face of their mental or physical issues they would surely pray to be put to death for peace. And as a compassionate race we shall make certain their wishes are carried out as they would themselves choose"
Wanna guess where this quote came from? Nah, didn't think you did.
Adolph is that you?
This is a case where the death penalty, carried out immediately, would seem reasonable.
I will say what you are all thinking "Cut his stinking head off and toss his body in a ditch somewhere to rot!" That is all this POS deserves to get from me or anyone else.
Fred, you're assuming this con-artist was mentally incapable of knowing he shouldn't kidnap and rape a 14 year old girl almost daily. If he didn't know any better, why did he go to such lengths to hide his crimes for so long?
Answer: He knew from day one that what he was doing was wrong.
People who are truly delusional are people who are TOTALLY disconnected from reality and have no idea of right and wrong. This guy is just a mean, hard hearted, narcissistic, savage who decided to follow through on his fantasy to have this girl, not as a "wife", but as a toy, sex-slave. Hang him, shoot him, inject him or electrocute him.....but by all means, remove him from this world.
Sorry Fred,
I thought you were a bleeding heart liberal who was buying into his insanity plea, but after re-reading your post, I'm assuming you're coming to the same ultimate conclusion many of us have come to, whether he is crazy (which I personally don't buy) or not.
The only problem with the death penalty is that it ends his capacity for suffering. If you are looking for revenge you need to think of something he can suffer, recover, repeat, suffer, recover, repeat. Death is too good for this guy.
Mentally ill my arse. He's nothing more than a drugged out predator. He and his ilk serve no positive purpose in this or any society. Off him. I'm really tired of paying for these %$#*ers 'rehabilitation' only to have them out of jail and free to destroy more innocents.
I know that seems harsh. But when it comes to pedophiles and predators, I have no sympathy. Protect my innocent familly. Not these people.
He knew what he was doing was wrong. Why did he have her cover the face? He
may be crazy but so is most of the population. Lock him up for life...
You make a good point. We all have a little bit of crazy in us. We all have a part of us within that wants to do things that aren't right; and I seriously can't even begin to imagine what kind of depravity would make a man even briefly contemplate the idea of harming a child, or for that matter a woman. Nevertheless, there is an animal within all of us, and by that measure, we are upright citizens because we choose to suppress our darker side; and so unless we may conclude that this criminal did not exercise free choice, we may deductively know that he acted by choice and is thus accountable as a human being both capable of and expected to sound reason.
I do not suggest that we kill him or torture him; but I do not believe that the man should be free. Thankfully, it does not appear that there is any question about his release. Whether in a hospital or a regular prison, he will be kept off of the streets, and that is good.
I don't know anyone who isn't crazy. I like cold weather and I tell people "If it's survivable, deal with it", and they think I'm crazy. But this isn't crazy. It's coldblooded insanity, and it's insane to use insanity as an excuse for these horrible crimes.
JoshuaH-594494, if this were your daughter, your mother, your sister, or any woman you love, you would change your mind about wanting to torture and kill him.
Allowing these types of people who are demented and cruel to live is obnoxious. And anyone who believes he should breathe another day is even more obnoxious.
Personally, I've always held the belief that any sicko Convicted of rape/kidnapping of a child or an elderly woman should be handed over the families of their victims for...lets say an hour before they are taken away to prison. Who knows, doing that on a regular basis may decrease the prison population in this country.
I completely agree! why use our tax dollars to pay for him to live his life in a prison! he should be killed in the most intense slow painful way!!
Leslie, you're right. It is easy to be detached from this when it isn't someone you care about who is the victim.
Hopefully this will end soon and Ms. Smart can finally begin to put this all behind her as much as possible.
She will and so will the rest of us. We will all be spending our tax dollars in the meantime to take care of him for life just like we have for years and years in the case of the Charles Manson family.
sanity defense is crazy... the only exception is if a person is diagnosed prior to comitting the crime... period... if not previously diagnosed, then let him recieve his treatment in jail...
and should he be found insane, then when he is sane, he can stand trial.. until then keep him institutionalized...
Elizabeth's ordeal is behind her, but she faces years of getting her life back. He deserves nothing more than to be thrown in prison and let nature take its course.
Stay strong Elizabeth!! May you find some peace when this man is taken out of society.
Love you so much Elizabeth!!
Hope you have a very Merry Christmas!
Our true Jehovah God will take care of this blasphemer and Antichrist!
You be happy as we all are that you are alive and safe.
When you've got garbage, you accept your responsibility and dispose of it.
Elizabeth....
The worst is far behind you now.....the constant daily battle is almost over....
It will get better from here......
In spite of what's happened, what happens to him isn't relevant now....,
He can't harm anyone else...You've done what you can...
Go have a good life now, That will be your Justice..
Elizabeth is a woman (and was as a child) of great faith. It is her faith and trust in the Lord that got her through this ordeal. She is tryly an amazing person, and is serving a mission for her church in France. She only took a break from her missionary work to return for this trial to testify. I'm sure she will return to France to continue her work as soon as possilbe.
It is no doubt with her strength of character and great faith that she will live lilfe to the fullest and put all this behind her. She has a loving family and community to support her.
a quick verdict means only one thing.
congrats Elizabeth! I am sure it wont be enough for all that was done, but it is something!
Elizabeth, we are so thrilled yo are alive and away from this monster.
Trust me there is nothing Holy or Godly about him.
Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas!
Much love and prayers.
HE will be dealt with here and by God. Amen!
Can anyone tell me why they are waiting to read the verdict? I truly don't understand that.
They allow time for family, lawyers & press to return to be present when the verdict is read. You don't know if the jury will take 10 minutes or 10 days to return a verdict.
Edward - they will be reading the verdict later today.
Oh, I see. Thanks, Edward! I see now that the verdict is in, but earlier the article read that it would be announced on another day.
This guy needs to be taken out back and put down like the rabbid dog he is.
We could solve our prison problems and costs to operate them if we rapidly executed the pieces of sh!t like this, and freed or put on house arrest the non violent offenders.
It costs close to $80,000 to house a convict, one day of that costs is too much for people like this.
But just think about what is going to happen to him in prison. He will soon feel what it is like to be raped on a daily basis. I'm for the jail justice.
I'd rather he get removed from society i.e. the chair or the hangman's knot. However, now that I think about it, once he gets into prison (preferably with no protection), and the other prisoners learn what he's done...yeah, let's just say this is the end of Mr. Mitchell...erhem, *itchell.
This jerk may like prison and inflick his daily routine on a younger weaker inmate. I say cut it off, he does not need it. At 16 he was showing it to 8 year olds
Justice is finally served. Its about time.
If this guy ever walks the streets again as a free man, it will be a travesty of justice.
I don't care if he goes to jail or hospital. I just hope he never walks the streets again.
Remove him from society and put him behind bars with the rest of the animals
get a rope! crazy or not.
What a sick sick man. Hope he is locked away forever.
Execution will take care of either issue
A bullet costs less than $1.00. I know how to save $79,999.
You can make fire for free by rubbing two pieces of branch together hard enough. Send this bastard into a fire pit and douse him with some Kingsford lighter. That'll be the same (if not more) punishment that Smart had to go through with this SOB.
You obviously haven't bought a .50 round before then? As for insane... there is no sanity in Utah but there are a whole bunch of good gun totting folk that would be willing to do it for free regardless of the caliber of bullet.
Put him in a mental institution for the rest of his life. If he's really mentally ill it's the right thing to do. just kep him off the streets, period.
That's what he wanted, therefore the theatrics. There is a LOT more freedom in a mental hospital than in prison. He is truly of a criminal mind and deserves no less.
As long s he's off the streets, I don't care if he's happy as a clown for the rest of his life. There's no justice man can serve for that kind of disgusting behavior. Leave judgement to God, and he'll get a nice warm place to stay, don't worry.
Elizabeth, we have watched you for years and have wondered how this will affect your life in years to come. Whatever justice is reached, as far as I'm conerned, it will not be harsh enough for this undesirable to suffer.