This is just so unbelievably weird on so many levels! But seriously, how could any woman be stupid enough to get a breast exam at a bar??? I usually get mine done at the local quickie mart!
hey she used my line, I didn't know that lying to gullible people is a crime. why aren't they putting all the politicians away for pretending to be human
bartl - I agree with you 100%. How stupid must these women be to agree to undergo a breast exam in a bar. Obviously this woman should be prosecuted, but you really have to wonder how anyone could be so stupid as to fall for this woman line of bull. There is no way any real doctor would be conducting any kind of medical examination in bar.
I think there are probably some "legitimate" doctors out there who have conducted "real" medical examinations in bars, although I certainly doubt it is a very common practice. That doesn't mean I would ever consent to it. Personally, I prefer GOOD doctors, and that type would NEVER conduct examinations outside a medical setting. That's the main point here, at least to me.
The other is, just what is going on inside this person? If he/she just wanted to grope females, it probably would have been easier if he had just stayed a man. Must be a little more to this story. Maybe he wasn't really your regular "woman trapped in a man's body"...he was a LESBIAN. That fits, doesn't it? I'm sorta confused by all this, I admit.
I don't know about you guys but when I think cancer prevention, I always think about scheduling my screening at the local bar. Because all the legitimate doctors would never let a few drinks stop them from looking out for someone's health. Ha.
It's insulting to me as a woman that another woman would seriously fall for something so bizarre. No bells or whistles go off when a plastic surgeon wants to do a breast exam!? IN A BAR! Weirdo.
Yeah, I mean really, who gets a medical exam at a bar? Next time I am in a bar and a doctor is giving out free prostrate exams, I think I will pass. She gets prosecuted for impersonating a doctor, the other 2 should get prosecuted for stupidity.
The TSA is hiring people to do the "FREEDOM FRISKS" ....this freak-a-zoid will fit right in....and it's a Government job with benefits and everything !!!!!....
The TSA is hiring people to do the "FREEDOM FRISKS" ....this freak-a-zoid will fit right in....and it's a Government job with benefits and everything !!!!!....
People are just stupid. Who the hell goes to a bar for medical breast exams? I guess we have too many dumb blonds in America. What next, delivering babies!
I just can't feel sorry for these stupid people that go to a bar and fall for this bs.
It truly takes being dumb to another whole new level!
The real victims here are the actual FBI - Female Body Inspectors - and their bar room clinics. They have been delt a blow when people like this set out to decieve, how can we trust any bar room boob testers now?
By then it probably looked like an airport, so what the heck. Ladies, prepare for takeoff! I'm here from the government, and I want to help you. Let's begin with a breast exam.
People, people, its BOISE. The locals are so braindead they have to ask tourists for directions home. They painted their football field blue so they couldn't see how cold their bare feet were. They call their cows "fiancee". The "house of ill repute" is the stable.
This is kind of like the fake doc giving out free breast exams at the U-haul storage place a few years back. How can people keep falling for this crap? If you're that concerned about getting a check up, either go to your doctor or a clinic on a day they're doing free exams. Sheesh!
A man, living as a woman, reliving the nostalga of manhood. This person? needs a therapist, preferably a F2M. And you're right about Boise. I spent a month there one week. I tried to get a souvineer for my kid and all they had was a potato(e) peeler. The kid loved it.
First off, to the victims, I think I would have been too embarrassed to report it. I mean really!!!! You go to a BAR and let a "doctor" give you a breast exam and then are "surprised" to find out it wasn't a real doctor. What's worse is that they actually had enough faith in that "doctor" to call the office to follow through with the procedure.
Next, this "person" had a sex change from male to female then goes around groping women. Excuse me but aren't MEN supposed to try to feel up women? So he changed from a man, who is supposed to be attracted to females (this is normal), to a woman who is not naturally supposed to be sexually attracted to women, only to become a lesbian. I am a little confused about this whole situation. Usually men undergo MTF transformations because they are attracted to MEN not because they are attracted to women. Forget about the whole "practicing medicine without a license" and sexual assault, this person brings "disturbed" to a whole new level.
This once again reinforces my theory of alcohol and stupidity.
Plus, I dont know if "technically" there was a crime. All he did was lie and felt them up. He did not "practice" any medicine. They did not go to an office, there was no fake degree, no surgery was performed, no medicine was given, no prescriptions. He even gave them a number to a real doctor to get checked out!
Guys/girls lie all the time to get a feel up or a 1-night-stand. They will lie about how much they make, what they do, what they drive etc... Even though this was totally freaky and twisted, I dont see a law broken.
so you are saying that it is illegal to SAY you are a doctor? I completely understand the actual practice of medical procedures and all that. But none of that happened. It was basically a feel up. Again, I am in no way condoning it, it just seems that technically, they could get off on this (no pun intended!)
Seriously how stupid are these woman,they had to have known she was a fake. I cannot believe they would allow themselves to be felt up at a bar and then go public with that info. They are lacking attention apparently,first to get felt up in a bar,second to admit it to police,poor me I went to the bar and thought this woman was a real doctor so I let her touch me and now I am so mortified, whaaaa whaaaa they will be suing next,people are so irritating and dumb!!!
I thought this was a joke...sadly I was mistaken and have just had my theory that some people are a waste of air reaffirmed. How stupid/drunk/naive do you have to be to let somebody give you a breast exam in a bar for chrissakes!
How stupid/drunk/naive do you have to be to let somebody give you a breast exam in a bar for chrissakes!
You don't. Heck, Ive managed to get my nuts examined in a few drinking establishments myself in the past. Note: Just make sure you get a female to accomodate you.
Mike in Portland - Are you kidding me? Really? As a Boisean I am disgusted by this story. My husband and I sat there thinking to ourselves that those drunk b*tch%$s should be embarrassed as hell. Don't post us all as idiots when we are not. Keep your opinions to yourself. I bet your to ugly to even get some dumb girl to show you her boobs.
Note there is a difference between sexual orientation and gender orientation; a transgender- where one thinks, acts and desires to become the opposite sex, even through surgical means. This was a man, who prefers women, who becomes a woman, who still prefers women. Then you got gay MTF and FTM. Regardless, even if you take off what you were born with and add what you weren't, that doesn't change one's sexual preference.
Hey you guys, gender and sexual identity are two separate things. I admit it took me by surprise to find out that she was a M2F, but think about it. Not all gay men want to be women so they can be with guys, etc.
And to the guy who was bragging about picking up women by pretending to be scouting for swimsuit models? You sound like a creepy predator. In fact, that is a common rouse for rapists and murderers to lure their victims. Maybe you should grow up.
they put her/him in a womens prison...because they have to go based off the gender that she/he is currently........................which makes me think they should have a prison for he/shes so that they wouldn't have to decide whether to put them in a men's prison or a women's prison, would make their jobs easier don't you think
Personally he should be put in a male prison where he belongs. Its his own fault if he looks like a woman now. Evidently he continues to be attracted to woman, which makes him a real male trapped in a manmade woman body. He should feel very comforted by his prisonmates!! They may like him better too, especially since he at least looks female. Furthermore, he'll feel more womanly after the boys are done with him.
She would go to a women's prison; it is determined by genitalia, not by the gender they identify with.
And it is not often that I don't feel at least a little sympathy for the victims, but this is one of those times. Of course the 'doc' was in the wrong, but these women were flat-out stupid and I don't feel for them.
KimVii: ragster makes an extremely good point. That is not ignorant at all. He is naturally a man, that only identifies as a woman, but is interested in women. So, doesnt that make him a regular hetero? He will be the most popular one in there! The only dude in a womans facility! He has struck gold! May have done all that on purpose to get some jailhouse pent-up freebies!
If I'm running the jail or prison, she's going to go where her genitalia dictates, regardless of her "self-identification". The only other possibility, in my book, would be solitary or some other special arrangement, tailored to the specific circumstances.
THAT "really isn't debatable", Kim. Doing anything else is unacceptable. Putting this "woman" where she says she WANTS to go isn't the answer. Think about it.
You determine what cell to throw her into based on her gender. If she had the surgery and had her gender officially changed, she goes to a female prison or ward.
Bigotry. Really. This perve is feeling women up and using the ruse of being a doctor. Would you really want to put him/her were that can happen again. I say put him/her in a male prison to keep him/her from forcing him/herself on other inmates. Just wanting to protect the other inmates.
Jimmy the Goon, do you know what goes on in prison? Not to disturb your delicate sensibilities or anything, but most people are having gay sex. They even let regular old lesbians and gays into jail! How about that!
This lady is a creep because she lied, not because of her current gender or past gender.
Whatever. He was born a man. You are what you are. Your personal choices can't change your gender. Your sexuality, the way you dress, all those things are your own business, but I know I would be pissed if some guy, regardless of what some doctor has altered, tried to sell himself to me as a woman, because that ain't cool. It's not bigotry it is facts. See below.
The process that determines gender, that is, the sex of an organism, begins even before the moment of fertilization when the male and female gametes join. Gametes are sex cells that contain exactly half of a complete genetic set, one specific part of which determines sex. Eggs, the female gamete, contain only so-called "X" chromosomes, but sperm, the male counterpart, can either have "X" or "Y" chromosomes. Whether the successful sperm was carrying an X or Y chromosome will be crucial in forming the gender of the offspring
You cannot change your gender. Sorry. You can change your sexual preference. You can alter your physiology, but you cannot change what was decided by nature before you were even born.
Sorry Jimmy, but you must live in a very black and white world, you have used "ehow.com" to support your basic argument that people are born either male or female! how shallow can you get. Sexuality is clearly on a spectrum and even if there were clear distinct yes and no answers there would be at least 16 different possibilities given the possibilities of Male, Female and non sexual. If you read all the posts previous to yours you would have run across many of the possibilities. This "fake doctor" was born with a female mind/identity and male genitalia, but has a sexual attraction to females. Basically a lesbian born with the wrong genitalia. This can happen when at some point of the conception fraternal twins don't quite fully develop but are merged into one body. Wake up please and open your mind and stop being a self professed "goon" :)
Blah Blah Blah. I can use any number of sites to back what is said above. Your chromosomes determine sex, and until you can rip out the y that was recieved and replace it with an X then he is a male. End of story. It has nothing to do with your sexual organs being removed, your mental status, or your personal choices. It is a scientific fact. Stop being a delusioned surfer. One too many hits on the bong.
Sadly, you can't examine that which doesn't exist.
Seriously...I hope the "patients" were sterile because anyone stupid enough to believe doctors give exams (of any variety) in bars should NOT reproduce.
Who undergoes a breast exam in a bar? Is this one of Leisure Suit Larry's pick up lines?
I can't imagine how drunk a woman has to be to allow a doctor, no I mean even a real one male or female with valid proof of being one, to do a breast exam in a bar let alone a fake one.
I would happily bet that the 'BARS' they were referring to were well known lesbian establishments and the women were likely very happy to be groped .... until they found out it was a d$%kless wonder.
Nothing in the world can be hated more than a 'once upon a man' is by a lesbian.
I picked my name much along the same lines. If you know they are going to call you a Goon, you just beat them to the punch. I love it when people say, "Your name is so fitting." It just points out how ignorant they are and that they cannot even ake a decent intellectual response.
So is this a lesbian who was trapped in side a man's body? Hey, that could be a lot of guys! Maybe this was all some sick guy's elaborate stunt to get sent to a women's prison.
How exactly does this person fit into the spectrum of LGBT people? Should this person be allowed to serve openly in the Military? What does the Episcopal Church think about the ordination of individuals such as this person? This article raises a lot of pertinent questions.
No, she is not a guy who dresses like a woman. Those are transvestites. This woman has undergone sex reassignment surgery, hormone therapy, and counseling sessions. She is anatomically, mentally, and genuinely a WOMAN. Her sexual orientation has nothing to do with her GENDER - the two are separate. She is a woman. She likes women.
It's incredibly insulting to transgender folks to just equate them with "any old guy."
I have seen some pretty desperate guys, but I don't think any of them would be hard-up enough to have gender reassignment surgery and then get thrown into jail just so they could get some. And really, it's not like she is going to be a "lifer" or anything. Hardly worth it if you ask me!
So your saying she has ovaries and a uterus. That her body would not change back to a male one were she to stop taking some drugs. You can chop your package off and create a hole there, but that does not make it a vagina. Sorry. This is just sick. The fact that we even consider doing this kind of thing is sick. I am not saying that he should not be allowed to disfigure his body in any way he wants too, but his gender is something he was born with. His sexual preference and how he dresses is his own business.
Okay. Gender is decided before you were born. It has nothing to do with your physical appearance. See below.
The process that determines gender, that is, the sex of an organism, begins even before the moment of fertilization when the male and female gametes join. Gametes are sex cells that contain exactly half of a complete genetic set, one specific part of which determines sex. Eggs, the female gamete, contain only so-called "X" chromosomes, but sperm, the male counterpart, can either have "X" or "Y" chromosomes. Whether the successful sperm was carrying an X or Y chromosome will be crucial in forming the gender of the offspring
Really this should have been obvious to begin with, but you have to point it out to some people. If you can find some way to pull that chromosome out I am sure that the scientific community would be delighted to see it.
You're confusing sex and gender, which are not the same thing. Also, if you had any knowledge of intersex conditions, you would know that sex is not so clear-cut. The presence of a Y chromosome does NOT, in fact, 100% designate someone as a male (this has been decided through medical precedent); nor, for that matter, as a MAN (which is not the same thing as male).
Take a class or two.
Secondly, as a final note, gender and gendered behavior - also not the same thing.
It takes a real man to pray the man's prayer handed down by the leader of possum Lodge, Red Green. "Oh Lord, I am a man. But I can change, if I have to, I guess."
I haven't confused anything. Your sexual preference is yours. If you choose to mutilate your body then so be it, but your gender, which is determined by your chromosomes, remains the same. Any doctor will tell you that you can change the appearance. You may even mentally feel that you are the opposite of what you are born, but that cannot change your chromosomes, which do determine your sex. This has been tested and tried for many years. It is not some quack doctor trying to change physiology. You can ask any doctor, who does not perform sex change operations, and they will tell you this is true. Biologists and other scientist will also agree. This is true for all mammals, not just humans. The only creature that has a different determination system is the amphibians. Not quite sure how you determine gender on those guys, since they can actually switch sometimes.
Chromosomes do not determine gender. They determine your sex. AGAIN, gender and sex DO NOT HAVE THE SAME DEFINITION. This person's assigned sex is MALE, but her gender is WOMAN. Gender is mental, sex is physical. And once more, as I ALSO said, just because someone is genetically male doesn't mean that they are physically male - and yes, doctors will agree on this. There are conditions where someone will have a Y chromosome but still grow up indistinguishable from a genetic female. A doctor will tell you that this person is female.
But intersex conditions are not the same thing as transgender anyway, I just want you to see why your logic is wrong.
2 : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex
According to Webster. I am right. According to science I am right. According to a bleeding heart liberal who wants to redefine every known word to make everything they say or do okay, I am wrong. Big deal.
If you've ever taken a feminist, queer or gender studies class you know that this is incorrect.
I also fail to see how being a "bleeding heart" is an insult. The day awareness outside of one's self is considered evil is the day Satan rules the people.
Finally, the difference between sex and gender wasn't my only argument.
Whatever. Your femenists studies classes are Liberal Arts. They teach about emotion. That has nothing to do with science or facts. I have indeed taken several Women's Studies classes. I have a BA in English and a BA in Biology. I also have a Masters in Anthrapology. I am pretty sure that I am aware of societies and cultures. But just because someone believes something does not make it true. Many civilizations have worshipped the sun as a God, but we know that it is a ball of gas. As far as the psychiatric portion is concerned you can feel however you like. I have met people who think they are movie stars, kings, and various animals. Just because they have this idea in their head does not make it so.
I am proud that you wish to wear the bleeding heart tag as a badge of honor. I am sure that it will serve you well. Good luck with your future post.
The same women who buy their boyfriends a singing trout to hang on the wall! Oh, wait a minute, you asked "Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND . . .?" - never mind.
Will be at the Wormy Dog Saloon giveing breast exams. You can make an appointment, but walk in are always welcome. I cannot gurantee that a license will be on the wall, but I can assure you there will be paper towels.
Be that as it may, that doesn't provide for you using the incorrect pronouns for her. Anyone who breaks the law isn't suddenly stripped of their humanity or their gender, and neither should she.
Dragonmaster, be offended that she committed a crime and assaulted these women. THAT is what makes her worthy of scorn. Her gender has nothing to do with that.
I think it's pretty sick how many comments are flying around from guys who employ the same method to victimize women and they think it's cool! But God forbid a transgendered woman do it. Now she is just horrible. Right....
I think some of you men are just insecure and worried about the competition. Maybe you should be!
If she identifies as a woman, the pronoun you want is "she" - "he/she" is offensive
Kim
Offending people is not something that I have to avoid, it is for the people who are offended to avoid me. Same as everything else, if you do not like what someone says then do not listen to the person who says it, but do not expect them not to say it just because it may offend someone. People have as much right to be offensive as they do to be offended.
Breast exams in a bar and now charged with impersonating a doctor. I'm glad I didn't go to college in Idaho or I too would be in jail except we called it getting lucky.
Many thousands of women, every day ! It is pretty much standard procedure. At most bars they don't play the doctor game, but the breast examinations go on everywhere, all the time ! I have done many myself !
I can't believe you are asking that question! Drunk women! That's who gets a breast exam in a bar! As a retired bartender of over a twenty year career, I can tell you that this story does not surprise me! I've pretty much seen it all, and, I can tell you honestly that drunk women are the worst! I was a sober woman bartender in every bar scenario you can imagine. From sports bars to five star hotel lounges, and everything in between, I can tell you from long experience and open eyes witnessing women at their worst, that drunk women are completely capable of weird and questionable behavior! DUH!!!
I've always heard that it's not criminal to lie about what you do to a woman... as long as you're not impersonating a cop (said when "professional photographers" are found out)
Maybe fradulent medical services is the crime here. I'd be surprised if she gets charged with a sexual or violent crime... and I don't think "impersonating a doctor" is illegal... I think offering someone medical services when you're not officially licensed is the real issue here...
Of course, who DOES get a medical procedure in a bar?
and I don't think "impersonating a doctor" is illegal..
Well, there are at least tortious aspects to it -- assuming that the "patient" exposes himself/herself to the alleged doctor or submits to an exam based on the impersonation.
I think the moment the "exam" began she stopped playing doctor and began a medical exam , I think this is why it is charged with practicing without a license.
So why is the TSA allowed to grope and sexually assault us and this woman isn't? Screw that, I don't buy the TSA's claim that this has always been the "standard pat down" It clearly hasn't -- but don't let them rewrite the history books because they'll tell you that 'we've always been at war with Eastasia!"
Refuse to let the TSA sexually assault you and your family -- Resist.
I wonder if MTF was charging them or alerting them that they would be billed. Maybe MTF was giving them the insurance will cover it line. Everyone knows doctors don't do anything for free.
I wouldn't be able to get away with something like that either. My cover would be blown the instance they see the slobber coming from my mouth! NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!
I can't believe the number of people who think this is a reasonable answer. There are 10's of thousands of people who have no other choice but to fly - contract professionals, sales people, etc., etc., etc.
schlabotnik i think roberts point is that if ur going to complain about the things that u have to do in order to fly (being patted down, going thru security, etc) then don't bother to fly....but then i could be wrong, im just throwing a guess out there
Seriously. it's a free country. No one is being forced to fly. We gave up a lot of freedoms when 9/11 occurred & the inconveniences of getting on an airplane is just something we have to deal with. Why are we such crybabies? We are so spoiled & it is so ridiculous that people are making a stink over this. We will never be able to totally safeguard against hijackings, but why not take the most precautions we have available? I see these people at the airport tongue lashing the TSA agents b/c they were picked out of the lineup for a random check. I have had it happen to me a few times & a gladly oblige. What's the big deal? Why are people so upset by this? This same person that has the mentality that says this is such an invasion of privacy and they feel violated, is the same jerk 30 minutes later sitting on the plane while the cabin door is being shut having a cell phone conversation about how his meeting went, what's for dinner, who's picking him up & audible for the entire plane to hear while the stewardess is telling him to get off hte phone & put his seat in the upright position. Back on topic though. It reminds me of that "here's your sign." I think they should be put in prison right along side this hesheit. And these women probably vote too. Wow.
For every attractive person TSA has to feel up, there are maybe 50 unattractive people they have to feel. I don't think TSA is getting their jollies off even the attractive people, and it should be on camera if one was to do the pat down inappropriately. They won't even remember you and are probably WAY more unhappy about the requirement than you are. It's no big deal, they are just doing their ASSIGNED job.
They can do anything they want with my naked scan picture too (like at Phoenix Sky Harbor). You can't even see the face so your picture is unrecognizable. Doubt any TSA folks are getting jollies off of those either. A porn mag would be much more useful.
As for the story, it happened in a bar. They agreed to a breast exam... in a bar. There is no excuse for such stupidity (if the victims even cared much and are actually the ones pressing charges). A (smart) real doctor wouldn't even give an exam in a bar.
This is just so unbelievably weird on so many levels! But seriously, how could any woman be stupid enough to get a breast exam at a bar??? I usually get mine done at the local quickie mart!
hey she used my line, I didn't know that lying to gullible people is a crime. why aren't they putting all the politicians away for pretending to be human
Which Quickie Mart, and you do realize the (unintentional?) pun? Would there actually was a quickie mart.
bartl - I agree with you 100%. How stupid must these women be to agree to undergo a breast exam in a bar. Obviously this woman should be prosecuted, but you really have to wonder how anyone could be so stupid as to fall for this woman line of bull. There is no way any real doctor would be conducting any kind of medical examination in bar.
ewww, Freak!
I thought this was pretty hot, until I found out it was a male-to-female transvestite... ugh.
I'm not surprised. I mis-spent a lot of time in bars when I was younger. This is bad but I have some better stories.
How about a photographer looking for the next playboy cover. Amazing the amount of takers.
I think there are probably some "legitimate" doctors out there who have conducted "real" medical examinations in bars, although I certainly doubt it is a very common practice. That doesn't mean I would ever consent to it. Personally, I prefer GOOD doctors, and that type would NEVER conduct examinations outside a medical setting. That's the main point here, at least to me.
The other is, just what is going on inside this person? If he/she just wanted to grope females, it probably would have been easier if he had just stayed a man. Must be a little more to this story. Maybe he wasn't really your regular "woman trapped in a man's body"...he was a LESBIAN. That fits, doesn't it? I'm sorta confused by all this, I admit.
My husband is a lesbian and he gives me breast exams in bars all the time.
As long as he doesn't claim to be a doctor, he's okay.
I don't know about you guys but when I think cancer prevention, I always think about scheduling my screening at the local bar. Because all the legitimate doctors would never let a few drinks stop them from looking out for someone's health. Ha.
It's insulting to me as a woman that another woman would seriously fall for something so bizarre. No bells or whistles go off when a plastic surgeon wants to do a breast exam!? IN A BAR! Weirdo.
Yeah, I mean really, who gets a medical exam at a bar? Next time I am in a bar and a doctor is giving out free prostrate exams, I think I will pass. She gets prosecuted for impersonating a doctor, the other 2 should get prosecuted for stupidity.
The biggest ruse that YOU people are falling for is that it's a "he" not a "she" that got arrested.
The TSA is hiring people to do the "FREEDOM FRISKS" ....this freak-a-zoid will fit right in....and it's a Government job with benefits and everything !!!!!....
When you are drunk, you're incapacitated; do you care/capable of making rational decision?
Maybe these women should seriously think about giving up drinking alcoholl
Why doesn't she just get a job with the TSA?
Greg...
It's not a him...it's a sheim.
...or maybe, "It's Pat!"
You misspelled "Gub'mint".
I have been offering 'FREE BREAST EXAMS IN BARS FOR YEARS AND YEARS"
Found my wife of 25 years by doing a free breast exam!!!
toomuchtime, unfortunately, in this country, being stupid isn't a crime. If it was, I think half the population would be locked up!!
OK..is anyone else confused by the "doctor's" gender? He, Her, Him She, Shim, Sher????? What???/
"Doctor" had a sex change, M-to-F, apparently. Which makes it EVEN creepier, if that's possible.
Seemed almost hot at first, when it was just a lesbian fake doctor, but this...
sparklystar
That would be Sheit.
People are just stupid. Who the hell goes to a bar for medical breast exams? I guess we have too many dumb blonds in America. What next, delivering babies!
I just can't feel sorry for these stupid people that go to a bar and fall for this bs.
It truly takes being dumb to another whole new level!
The real victims here are the actual FBI - Female Body Inspectors - and their bar room clinics. They have been delt a blow when people like this set out to decieve, how can we trust any bar room boob testers now?
Haahahahahahaha
Really? That's great. I hope you and he are real happy together.
Too bad being stupid isn't illegal. The 'victims' would be in jail too!
You mean that proctologist at the Boom Boom Room last weekend was fakin' it....damn!
I suppose that's a hint and a half for ya about what you find in nightclubs.
And BTW wouldn't this work a lot better at Hooter's, maybe as part of the company health plan?
So that oral exam thing was probably fake, too....shoot!
Were they blondes?...amazing people can be so dumb and still breathe
By then it probably looked like an airport, so what the heck. Ladies, prepare for takeoff! I'm here from the government, and I want to help you. Let's begin with a breast exam.
People, people, its BOISE. The locals are so braindead they have to ask tourists for directions home. They painted their football field blue so they couldn't see how cold their bare feet were. They call their cows "fiancee". The "house of ill repute" is the stable.
Look for this chick at the airport, folks - she has a real future as a TSA pat down screener!
I'm not a gynecologist but I'd be happy to take a look...
This is kind of like the fake doc giving out free breast exams at the U-haul storage place a few years back. How can people keep falling for this crap? If you're that concerned about getting a check up, either go to your doctor or a clinic on a day they're doing free exams. Sheesh!
Sandy-847027
Well said!
I guess that the licking, tickling, and nibbling were critical clues that outted him.
A man, living as a woman, reliving the nostalga of manhood. This person? needs a therapist, preferably a F2M. And you're right about Boise. I spent a month there one week. I tried to get a souvineer for my kid and all they had was a potato(e) peeler. The kid loved it.
LOL! Bartl that was too funny! Does Apu Nahasapeemapetilon do your exam? D'OH!
A breast exam in a bar!!!!! Really!!!!! Those ladies must have read the healthcare bill.
First off, to the victims, I think I would have been too embarrassed to report it. I mean really!!!! You go to a BAR and let a "doctor" give you a breast exam and then are "surprised" to find out it wasn't a real doctor. What's worse is that they actually had enough faith in that "doctor" to call the office to follow through with the procedure.
Next, this "person" had a sex change from male to female then goes around groping women. Excuse me but aren't MEN supposed to try to feel up women? So he changed from a man, who is supposed to be attracted to females (this is normal), to a woman who is not naturally supposed to be sexually attracted to women, only to become a lesbian. I am a little confused about this whole situation. Usually men undergo MTF transformations because they are attracted to MEN not because they are attracted to women. Forget about the whole "practicing medicine without a license" and sexual assault, this person brings "disturbed" to a whole new level.
This is one of those moments in life when you say to yourself, "Why didn't I think of that?"
This once again reinforces my theory of alcohol and stupidity.
Plus, I dont know if "technically" there was a crime. All he did was lie and felt them up. He did not "practice" any medicine. They did not go to an office, there was no fake degree, no surgery was performed, no medicine was given, no prescriptions. He even gave them a number to a real doctor to get checked out!
Guys/girls lie all the time to get a feel up or a 1-night-stand. They will lie about how much they make, what they do, what they drive etc... Even though this was totally freaky and twisted, I dont see a law broken.
rick7030:
Newton probably came up with that theory before you, my friend.
Additionally, many States have laws against impersonating a physician and there is a Federal law as well.
riverdog1572451:
so you are saying that it is illegal to SAY you are a doctor? I completely understand the actual practice of medical procedures and all that. But none of that happened. It was basically a feel up. Again, I am in no way condoning it, it just seems that technically, they could get off on this (no pun intended!)
"They have been delt a blow.."
I don't think you deal them, you give or receive them right?
Seriously how stupid are these woman,they had to have known she was a fake. I cannot believe they would allow themselves to be felt up at a bar and then go public with that info. They are lacking attention apparently,first to get felt up in a bar,second to admit it to police,poor me I went to the bar and thought this woman was a real doctor so I let her touch me and now I am so mortified, whaaaa whaaaa they will be suing next,people are so irritating and dumb!!!
With enough liquor anything sounds plausible. I don't think this would have worked as well at the grocery store. The bar was probably a good choice.
Dos Equis anyone?
Mike in Portland...
And your problem with Boise is?
Maybe you're just jealous...you know, the cesspool Portland compared to wild and wonderful Boise...just sayin'
Udderly rediculous!
I thought this was a joke...sadly I was mistaken and have just had my theory that some people are a waste of air reaffirmed. How stupid/drunk/naive do you have to be to let somebody give you a breast exam in a bar for chrissakes!
Was that two cabernets? OK, and when you're ready the breast exam line forms at the other end of the bar. lol.
You don't. Heck, Ive managed to get my nuts examined in a few drinking establishments myself in the past. Note: Just make sure you get a female to accomodate you.
Mike in Portland - Are you kidding me? Really? As a Boisean I am disgusted by this story. My husband and I sat there thinking to ourselves that those drunk b*tch%$s should be embarrassed as hell. Don't post us all as idiots when we are not. Keep your opinions to yourself. I bet your to ugly to even get some dumb girl to show you her boobs.
To Swimmom12,
Note there is a difference between sexual orientation and gender orientation; a transgender- where one thinks, acts and desires to become the opposite sex, even through surgical means. This was a man, who prefers women, who becomes a woman, who still prefers women. Then you got gay MTF and FTM. Regardless, even if you take off what you were born with and add what you weren't, that doesn't change one's sexual preference.
Hey you guys, gender and sexual identity are two separate things. I admit it took me by surprise to find out that she was a M2F, but think about it. Not all gay men want to be women so they can be with guys, etc.
And to the guy who was bragging about picking up women by pretending to be scouting for swimsuit models? You sound like a creepy predator. In fact, that is a common rouse for rapists and murderers to lure their victims. Maybe you should grow up.
I need to make two mental notes. One there ARE women who will fall for this, and two start hanging out at the Quickie Mart.
Darn, I wish I would have thought of that!
I hate to inject anything political into this, because I've seen how out of control politics can get on this site....But:
"Is this our new healthcare policy at work? If so, sign me up as a doctor. I'll host an all new Happy Hour."
It would be a very "Happy Hour"
Hell, I examine every breast I see...........
sadly only visually though........
Just when I can't believe anything more weird could happen, IT DOES!
Nice!!LOL
And to think I spent all that money in college buying drinks for women to perform the same proceedure. What was I thinking!!!!
The first time she/he tried this it was Bush's fault, but the second time it was Obama's. All remaining gropings were caused by Palin and Dick Cheney!
She's in the perfect place now to cop a feel. He being a she that is. How do you determine which cell to throw her/him into?
rotate the assignment
they put her/him in a womens prison...because they have to go based off the gender that she/he is currently........................which makes me think they should have a prison for he/shes so that they wouldn't have to decide whether to put them in a men's prison or a women's prison, would make their jobs easier don't you think
I think they ought coed the prison system. Put them all together. Force Marriage on them.
Prison might as well be as miserable a place as can be.
; o )
Personally he should be put in a male prison where he belongs. Its his own fault if he looks like a woman now. Evidently he continues to be attracted to woman, which makes him a real male trapped in a manmade woman body. He should feel very comforted by his prisonmates!! They may like him better too, especially since he at least looks female. Furthermore, he'll feel more womanly after the boys are done with him.
ahhhhh hatchet i like your idea better!!!
If she identifies as a woman, she needs to be put with the other women. This really isn't debatable.
Ragster: That is the most ignorant comment I've heard in a while. Are lesbians secretly "men" also?
Actually, yes, some are. Were you born that stupid, or did it happen gradually?
She would go to a women's prison; it is determined by genitalia, not by the gender they identify with.
And it is not often that I don't feel at least a little sympathy for the victims, but this is one of those times. Of course the 'doc' was in the wrong, but these women were flat-out stupid and I don't feel for them.
KimVii: ragster makes an extremely good point. That is not ignorant at all. He is naturally a man, that only identifies as a woman, but is interested in women. So, doesnt that make him a regular hetero? He will be the most popular one in there! The only dude in a womans facility! He has struck gold! May have done all that on purpose to get some jailhouse pent-up freebies!
Something to think about if I ever get locked up.
If I'm running the jail or prison, she's going to go where her genitalia dictates, regardless of her "self-identification". The only other possibility, in my book, would be solitary or some other special arrangement, tailored to the specific circumstances.
THAT "really isn't debatable", Kim. Doing anything else is unacceptable. Putting this "woman" where she says she WANTS to go isn't the answer. Think about it.
True, she did have a desire to cop a feel. Sounds like she was doing well till she tried to feel a cop.
You determine what cell to throw her into based on her gender. If she had the surgery and had her gender officially changed, she goes to a female prison or ward.
I don't see what is so confusing about this.
@ Ragster, your bigotry is showing. You might want to tuck that in, bucky.
Bigotry. Really. This perve is feeling women up and using the ruse of being a doctor. Would you really want to put him/her were that can happen again. I say put him/her in a male prison to keep him/her from forcing him/herself on other inmates. Just wanting to protect the other inmates.
Jimmy the Goon, do you know what goes on in prison? Not to disturb your delicate sensibilities or anything, but most people are having gay sex. They even let regular old lesbians and gays into jail! How about that!
This lady is a creep because she lied, not because of her current gender or past gender.
Whatever. He was born a man. You are what you are. Your personal choices can't change your gender. Your sexuality, the way you dress, all those things are your own business, but I know I would be pissed if some guy, regardless of what some doctor has altered, tried to sell himself to me as a woman, because that ain't cool. It's not bigotry it is facts. See below.
The process that determines gender, that is, the sex of an organism, begins even before the moment of fertilization when the male and female gametes join. Gametes are sex cells that contain exactly half of a complete genetic set, one specific part of which determines sex. Eggs, the female gamete, contain only so-called "X" chromosomes, but sperm, the male counterpart, can either have "X" or "Y" chromosomes. Whether the successful sperm was carrying an X or Y chromosome will be crucial in forming the gender of the offspring
Read more: How Is Gender Determined? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4572288_how-gender-determined.html#ixzz15lp19ryq
You cannot change your gender. Sorry. You can change your sexual preference. You can alter your physiology, but you cannot change what was decided by nature before you were even born.
Sorry Jimmy, but you must live in a very black and white world, you have used "ehow.com" to support your basic argument that people are born either male or female! how shallow can you get. Sexuality is clearly on a spectrum and even if there were clear distinct yes and no answers there would be at least 16 different possibilities given the possibilities of Male, Female and non sexual. If you read all the posts previous to yours you would have run across many of the possibilities. This "fake doctor" was born with a female mind/identity and male genitalia, but has a sexual attraction to females. Basically a lesbian born with the wrong genitalia. This can happen when at some point of the conception fraternal twins don't quite fully develop but are merged into one body. Wake up please and open your mind and stop being a self professed "goon" :)
Blah Blah Blah. I can use any number of sites to back what is said above. Your chromosomes determine sex, and until you can rip out the y that was recieved and replace it with an X then he is a male. End of story. It has nothing to do with your sexual organs being removed, your mental status, or your personal choices. It is a scientific fact. Stop being a delusioned surfer. One too many hits on the bong.
In a bar how convenient, ladies night special? Two for one gropes? These women didn't need breast exams, they need brain exams!
Sadly, you can't examine that which doesn't exist.
Seriously...I hope the "patients" were sterile because anyone stupid enough to believe doctors give exams (of any variety) in bars should NOT reproduce.
I don't know what's funnier, the article or the comments.
I agree how stupid are these women to believe doctors give exams in a bar. Maybe they enjoyed the feel job. LOL
You're right J.S., Baltimore!
Hey, all you idiots, OUT of the gene pool....now!
I wonder if they could put the co-pays on their tab?
Not quit up there for the Darwin Awards..... but should get honorable mention dont you think.
Who undergoes a breast exam in a bar? Is this one of Leisure Suit Larry's pick up lines?
I can't imagine how drunk a woman has to be to allow a doctor, no I mean even a real one male or female with valid proof of being one, to do a breast exam in a bar let alone a fake one.
How many blondes does it take to give a breast exam in a bar?
I would happily bet that the 'BARS' they were referring to were well known lesbian establishments and the women were likely very happy to be groped .... until they found out it was a d$%kless wonder.
Nothing in the world can be hated more than a 'once upon a man' is by a lesbian.
Except for maybe the one that was groping them.
You make that sound like personal experience, Hatchet. OK, your name is creepin' me out now.
But how drunk could they have been if they remembered not only that RIDICULOUS name, but to call for an appointment???
If he, she, it. were posing as an ear, nose, and throat specialist, we wouldn't be having this discussion now would we.....
Depends on what he she or it was trying to ram down your ear, nose or throat.
good point fktardtoo. It is just odd saying that you have a good point given your name...LOL!
I picked it on purpose. So I could agree with people who were obviously oblivious to reality and then add but I am a fktard too.
I picked my name much along the same lines. If you know they are going to call you a Goon, you just beat them to the punch. I love it when people say, "Your name is so fitting." It just points out how ignorant they are and that they cannot even ake a decent intellectual response.
So is this a lesbian who was trapped in side a man's body? Hey, that could be a lot of guys! Maybe this was all some sick guy's elaborate stunt to get sent to a women's prison.
How exactly does this person fit into the spectrum of LGBT people? Should this person be allowed to serve openly in the Military? What does the Episcopal Church think about the ordination of individuals such as this person? This article raises a lot of pertinent questions.
It raises a lot of impertinent questions too.
I'm confused about the gender switch, why wouldn't he stay a bi-sexual male? To each their own, i guess.
he might not be bi, you can be transgender without being homosexual. Of course, when you reach the other side you are!
Gender and sexuality aren't the same thing. They are two independent parts of a person's being. Clearly, she is a woman who likes other women.
If you knew anything about the transgender process, you would not joke that it is a gimmick.
She's a TRANSGENDERED woman who likes women. I'd say she must have been an ALMOST d!<kl3ss wonder who REALLY likes women, and s/he found a way.
Clearly, she is a woman who likes other women.
Not so sure its that clear. He is a guy, who likes women, but dresses like a woman. By your requirements, every guy is a lesbian.
No, she is not a guy who dresses like a woman. Those are transvestites. This woman has undergone sex reassignment surgery, hormone therapy, and counseling sessions. She is anatomically, mentally, and genuinely a WOMAN. Her sexual orientation has nothing to do with her GENDER - the two are separate. She is a woman. She likes women.
It's incredibly insulting to transgender folks to just equate them with "any old guy."
I would bet you were right on the first try.
I have seen some pretty desperate guys, but I don't think any of them would be hard-up enough to have gender reassignment surgery and then get thrown into jail just so they could get some. And really, it's not like she is going to be a "lifer" or anything. Hardly worth it if you ask me!
So your saying she has ovaries and a uterus. That her body would not change back to a male one were she to stop taking some drugs. You can chop your package off and create a hole there, but that does not make it a vagina. Sorry. This is just sick. The fact that we even consider doing this kind of thing is sick. I am not saying that he should not be allowed to disfigure his body in any way he wants too, but his gender is something he was born with. His sexual preference and how he dresses is his own business.
<<His sexual preference and how he dresses is his own business.>>
But her gender is NOT her own business? Ok, you don't like gender reassignment. Then don't have one. Pretty simple :)
Okay. Gender is decided before you were born. It has nothing to do with your physical appearance. See below.
The process that determines gender, that is, the sex of an organism, begins even before the moment of fertilization when the male and female gametes join. Gametes are sex cells that contain exactly half of a complete genetic set, one specific part of which determines sex. Eggs, the female gamete, contain only so-called "X" chromosomes, but sperm, the male counterpart, can either have "X" or "Y" chromosomes. Whether the successful sperm was carrying an X or Y chromosome will be crucial in forming the gender of the offspring
Read more: How Is Gender Determined? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4572288_how-gender-determined.html#ixzz15lp19ryq
Really this should have been obvious to begin with, but you have to point it out to some people. If you can find some way to pull that chromosome out I am sure that the scientific community would be delighted to see it.
You're confusing sex and gender, which are not the same thing. Also, if you had any knowledge of intersex conditions, you would know that sex is not so clear-cut. The presence of a Y chromosome does NOT, in fact, 100% designate someone as a male (this has been decided through medical precedent); nor, for that matter, as a MAN (which is not the same thing as male).
Take a class or two.
Secondly, as a final note, gender and gendered behavior - also not the same thing.
It takes a real man to pray the man's prayer handed down by the leader of possum Lodge, Red Green. "Oh Lord, I am a man. But I can change, if I have to, I guess."
I haven't confused anything. Your sexual preference is yours. If you choose to mutilate your body then so be it, but your gender, which is determined by your chromosomes, remains the same. Any doctor will tell you that you can change the appearance. You may even mentally feel that you are the opposite of what you are born, but that cannot change your chromosomes, which do determine your sex. This has been tested and tried for many years. It is not some quack doctor trying to change physiology. You can ask any doctor, who does not perform sex change operations, and they will tell you this is true. Biologists and other scientist will also agree. This is true for all mammals, not just humans. The only creature that has a different determination system is the amphibians. Not quite sure how you determine gender on those guys, since they can actually switch sometimes.
Chromosomes do not determine gender. They determine your sex. AGAIN, gender and sex DO NOT HAVE THE SAME DEFINITION. This person's assigned sex is MALE, but her gender is WOMAN. Gender is mental, sex is physical. And once more, as I ALSO said, just because someone is genetically male doesn't mean that they are physically male - and yes, doctors will agree on this. There are conditions where someone will have a Y chromosome but still grow up indistinguishable from a genetic female. A doctor will tell you that this person is female.
But intersex conditions are not the same thing as transgender anyway, I just want you to see why your logic is wrong.
I refuse to have a battle of whits with an unarmed opponent.
gen·der
noun \ˈjen-dər\
Definition of GENDER
1
: sex 1
2
: the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex
According to Webster. I am right. According to science I am right. According to a bleeding heart liberal who wants to redefine every known word to make everything they say or do okay, I am wrong. Big deal.
If you've ever taken a feminist, queer or gender studies class you know that this is incorrect.
I also fail to see how being a "bleeding heart" is an insult. The day awareness outside of one's self is considered evil is the day Satan rules the people.
Finally, the difference between sex and gender wasn't my only argument.
Whatever. Your femenists studies classes are Liberal Arts. They teach about emotion. That has nothing to do with science or facts. I have indeed taken several Women's Studies classes. I have a BA in English and a BA in Biology. I also have a Masters in Anthrapology. I am pretty sure that I am aware of societies and cultures. But just because someone believes something does not make it true. Many civilizations have worshipped the sun as a God, but we know that it is a ball of gas. As far as the psychiatric portion is concerned you can feel however you like. I have met people who think they are movie stars, kings, and various animals. Just because they have this idea in their head does not make it so.
I am proud that you wish to wear the bleeding heart tag as a badge of honor. I am sure that it will serve you well. Good luck with your future post.
Who in their right mind gets a breast exam in a bar?
The same women who buy their boyfriends a singing trout to hang on the wall! Oh, wait a minute, you asked "Who IN THEIR RIGHT MIND . . .?" - never mind.
What a bunch of boobs!
Cooky- I really did laugh out loud at your comment! Thanks for the chucklefest!
Will be at the Wormy Dog Saloon giveing breast exams. You can make an appointment, but walk in are always welcome. I cannot gurantee that a license will be on the wall, but I can assure you there will be paper towels.
Damn, the world just keeps getting dumber and dumber!
The old FBI (female body inspector) is older than dirt and still works. He/She should have given it a try
HA HA my boyfriend has that shirt, i make fun of him everytime he puts it on.
ps. he only wears it as an undershirt
If she identifies as a woman, the pronoun you want is "she" - "he/she" is offensive.
She/he groping under false colors in a bar is offensive.
Be that as it may, that doesn't provide for you using the incorrect pronouns for her. Anyone who breaks the law isn't suddenly stripped of their humanity or their gender, and neither should she.
Dragonmaster, be offended that she committed a crime and assaulted these women. THAT is what makes her worthy of scorn. Her gender has nothing to do with that.
I think it's pretty sick how many comments are flying around from guys who employ the same method to victimize women and they think it's cool! But God forbid a transgendered woman do it. Now she is just horrible. Right....
I think some of you men are just insecure and worried about the competition. Maybe you should be!
Kim
Offending people is not something that I have to avoid, it is for the people who are offended to avoid me. Same as everything else, if you do not like what someone says then do not listen to the person who says it, but do not expect them not to say it just because it may offend someone. People have as much right to be offensive as they do to be offended.
5 yr's in prison & a fine up to $10,000 for each count. Is that per boob or per person ? ;-)
Same difference. Every person who let her/him examine them in a bar was a boob.
Thats a pretty Stiff Punishment. Must have been cold in the courtroom.
Breast exams in a bar and now charged with impersonating a doctor. I'm glad I didn't go to college in Idaho or I too would be in jail except we called it getting lucky.
Absolutely Hilarious, I would be locked up too.
Sounds to me like he/she took the old FBI "Female Booby Inspector" joke too far
Oppps...this comment was in response to comment #9.0 I just made a mistake
Eventually you get too old to "play doctor" with the girls.
No you don't.
"Who undergoes a breast exam in a bar? "
Many thousands of women, every day ! It is pretty much standard procedure. At most bars they don't play the doctor game, but the breast examinations go on everywhere, all the time ! I have done many myself !
those are some classy joints you prowl
yeah, but it costs me $20 to perform each exam.....
I can't believe you are asking that question! Drunk women! That's who gets a breast exam in a bar! As a retired bartender of over a twenty year career, I can tell you that this story does not surprise me! I've pretty much seen it all, and, I can tell you honestly that drunk women are the worst! I was a sober woman bartender in every bar scenario you can imagine. From sports bars to five star hotel lounges, and everything in between, I can tell you from long experience and open eyes witnessing women at their worst, that drunk women are completely capable of weird and questionable behavior! DUH!!!
The fact that she was practicing medicine in a bar should have been their first clue that something was wrong.
From the way the article reads,a real,licensed doctor could get away with it.
She should try law. She passed the BAR exam..........I kill me.
Duckworth - I don't have to tell you because you know, but that's hilarious.
Robert Duckworth.
you owe me a coffee. . .that was so funny I fell off my chair laughing and spilled some good coffee. . .LOLZ!
Fact: "Doctors" give breast exams in barns in Idaho.
"Doctors" give breast exams in barns in Idaho
The cows aren't complaining.
I love the internet. The only place you can be a standup comedian while sitting down.
Hey Vince,
She wasn't practicing: this was the "big game". I say, "Put me in coach".
I've always heard that it's not criminal to lie about what you do to a woman... as long as you're not impersonating a cop (said when "professional photographers" are found out)
Maybe fradulent medical services is the crime here. I'd be surprised if she gets charged with a sexual or violent crime... and I don't think "impersonating a doctor" is illegal... I think offering someone medical services when you're not officially licensed is the real issue here...
Of course, who DOES get a medical procedure in a bar?
Dumb and drunk . .er . . .okay here goes. . .desperate people who could not get "it" any other way maybe? (tongue in cheek. ..)
by the way. .what kind of bar was it? straight or otherwise. .?
Well, there are at least tortious aspects to it -- assuming that the "patient" exposes himself/herself to the alleged doctor or submits to an exam based on the impersonation.
I think the moment the "exam" began she stopped playing doctor and began a medical exam , I think this is why it is charged with practicing without a license.
So, what are they going to do with Obama, practicing to be a pres. when he isn't?
Hey, we're talking a whole different kind of Boob here~~~ Stay on topic.
Michael-1150681, you don't know who the president is? Sounds like you're intelligent enough to be eligible for the free breast exam!
michael just made me realize i was right about the fact that theres always gotta be someone who strays off the topic that is being discussed
Merlin, where have you "always heard" that it's ok to lie to women and tell them whatever you need to get in their pants? Or Sweaters?
I would like to know, because people who believe this obviously need some re-education.
what?
Quicki-Mart!! Good one!!
Hey, I think I'll try that.
"Excuse me ma'am, I'm not a real gynecologist, but let me take a look anyway."
So why is the TSA allowed to grope and sexually assault us and this woman isn't? Screw that, I don't buy the TSA's claim that this has always been the "standard pat down" It clearly hasn't -- but don't let them rewrite the history books because they'll tell you that 'we've always been at war with Eastasia!"
Refuse to let the TSA sexually assault you and your family -- Resist.
No one is forcing you to fly.
Good point Orwell, maybe she should have examined them with the back or her hand lol.
Noone forces you to get examinations in a bar, but it is still wrong.
I wonder if MTF was charging them or alerting them that they would be billed. Maybe MTF was giving them the insurance will cover it line. Everyone knows doctors don't do anything for free.
I wouldn't be able to get away with something like that either. My cover would be blown the instance they see the slobber coming from my mouth! NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!
So don't fly, no one has a gun to your head to make you. When there are no more terrorist attempts you can go come back.
I can't believe the number of people who think this is a reasonable answer. There are 10's of thousands of people who have no other choice but to fly - contract professionals, sales people, etc., etc., etc.
What about them?
schlabotnik i think roberts point is that if ur going to complain about the things that u have to do in order to fly (being patted down, going thru security, etc) then don't bother to fly....but then i could be wrong, im just throwing a guess out there
Seriously. it's a free country. No one is being forced to fly. We gave up a lot of freedoms when 9/11 occurred & the inconveniences of getting on an airplane is just something we have to deal with. Why are we such crybabies? We are so spoiled & it is so ridiculous that people are making a stink over this. We will never be able to totally safeguard against hijackings, but why not take the most precautions we have available? I see these people at the airport tongue lashing the TSA agents b/c they were picked out of the lineup for a random check. I have had it happen to me a few times & a gladly oblige. What's the big deal? Why are people so upset by this? This same person that has the mentality that says this is such an invasion of privacy and they feel violated, is the same jerk 30 minutes later sitting on the plane while the cabin door is being shut having a cell phone conversation about how his meeting went, what's for dinner, who's picking him up & audible for the entire plane to hear while the stewardess is telling him to get off hte phone & put his seat in the upright position. Back on topic though. It reminds me of that "here's your sign." I think they should be put in prison right along side this hesheit. And these women probably vote too. Wow.
I don't understand what everyone is complaining about...I have no place to go but am looking for cheap tickets so I can get to "second base"!!!
For every attractive person TSA has to feel up, there are maybe 50 unattractive people they have to feel. I don't think TSA is getting their jollies off even the attractive people, and it should be on camera if one was to do the pat down inappropriately. They won't even remember you and are probably WAY more unhappy about the requirement than you are. It's no big deal, they are just doing their ASSIGNED job.
They can do anything they want with my naked scan picture too (like at Phoenix Sky Harbor). You can't even see the face so your picture is unrecognizable. Doubt any TSA folks are getting jollies off of those either. A porn mag would be much more useful.
As for the story, it happened in a bar. They agreed to a breast exam... in a bar. There is no excuse for such stupidity (if the victims even cared much and are actually the ones pressing charges). A (smart) real doctor wouldn't even give an exam in a bar.
No one is forcing you to fly??? So you think that women should have to submit to being sexually assaulted in order to get on a plane?
Wow.
And how are these assaults on women preventing terrorism?
This is the Republican's version of health care after they repeal national health coverage. DIY!
What guy doesn't wish they would have though of this, What's next gyno exams at the laundrymat?
on top of the washer.....
hahaha
Spincycle!