We helped them out financially after the earthquake, and they still hate us! It's a hopeless situation, just like Haiti.
I propose we that we simply deduct it out of the millions that we give to Israel every year. After all, what has Israel done for the US in the last decade?
Because theyre freaking corrupt and the leadership there is disgusting. I have to say though, Pakistan should be looked at with a different view than how people are looking at it. The northern areas of pakistan are the same pasthoon as from afghanistan and those are the ones causing havoc. They are killing more pakistani civilians than we'd kill ourselves if we could get our hands on it. This flood is in the northern areas so I darn well hope pakistan takes as long as it can before it starts helping those people.
Bush is the one that created this nightmare. It was Bush that turned the Democratic surplus into a 12 Trillion dollar deficit. His actions are still driving the deficit out of site. Obama inherited this problem and has been trying to get it under control, but you people are too stupid to understand the Republican party caused this and with your help will take back control and make it that much worse. Try to grow a brain.
Israel never attacked or bombed NYC where as the Muslim and Palestinian have. Israel and USA have been friends since 1947 when Israel was conceived under UN charter. America and Israel are more than important trading partners, mutually benefiting both countries. When Saddam launched surprise missile attacks upon Israel during the US invasion of Iraq, the US requested Israel not to retaliate against Iraq as that may jeopardize key Arab support of US military bases in neighboring Arab nations as well as the possibility of mobilizing hostile Arab intervention that may increase US casualty. Israel complied only because America is a long-time friend of Israel. What America asked of Israel is no small favor. No sovereign nation should be asked to swallow its pride and allow itself to be attacked by Iraqi missiles with impunity.
lol this thread is filled with the silliest excuses of how israel earns the $3 billion/year from us. You want credit for not attacking a country that we were attacking anyway?! Wow the sacrifices of Israel for the US....
Usually Israel tells us to eff off when we beg them to stop encroachments on a land they forced away from people or when they start carpet bombing civilians or attacking humanitarian ships trying to break through a blockade that was limiting supplies, food aid and even stuff like candy!!
God help me for questioning Israel because we all know that we Americans dont dare do that. We only bend over and pay you in fear
I say forget the money being given to Pakistan and forget the money being given to Israel. Use it to build a decent healthcare system thats not ranked 35 in the world.
Ok, when are we going to realize Governemnts do not care about other countries that they cannot benefit from. What can we benefit from Haiti??? NOTHING. What can we benefit from South Africa??? NOTHING. Sure you'll see a few organizations trying to help but there is not much they can do. Now I'm not saying that it is right to treat them that way, but it is a fact of life. Can you live with that? If not then move there and do what you can, keep in mind for the past 600+ years tribes have been cutting off arm, legs and heads because a great great grandfather was in a certain tribe. It's hard to change that. So when you say MILLIONS have been killed and slautered, they are doing it to themselves. As long as they are doing there and not here, we are all ok with it.
Feronia: Why should our tax money go as aids to our killers? Rich Sheikhs of Saudi Arabia, UAE and ME finance all the Islamic radicals and militants all over the world. Let them give some aids to those affected in savage valley!
Ten million in aid but no mention if we've any Humanitarian aid on the ground helping victims or whether or not the Taliban and Al Qaida in the region have mobilized any aid to assist their neighbors, host and fellow Muslims. This seems to be a situation where "actions" could go much farther than words and/or cash (which probably will wind up in some corrupt tribal leaders pockets anyhow) in proving our intent for the region and developing that "good will" our leaders keep claiming to be about. If I were a Pakistani in peril from this disaster, seeing the difference in how these different factions respond to and come together for the people caught in this dillema would go a long way. This is a moment for groups to set aside there differences and come to the aid of their fellow human beings. To be attacked while administering aid would undoubtedly be a huge propaganda tool for those attacked and something to be avoided by all those concerned.
@john====== To hell with my fellow human being "Pakistanis", you call animals that will cut innocent peoples'
heads off or condemn another human to death because of some "dumbass" religious" belief humans? The more of them that croak, the less our Anti-american gov't can bring over here for your children to grow up with!
First cut off all aid to Puke-i-stan and give it all to India their arch rival, any country that harbors AL-Qaeda and their ilk risks invasion and I’m not talking about the wimp Bush’s type of invasion. Puke-i-stan now harbors Bin-Laden and the Taliban either give Bin Laden to us or we use chemical, biological and dirty bombs to neutralize the threat if thousands of Muslims die in the process… well chalk it up to collateral damage, so sorry. We should have gone into Puke-istan on day one and got Bin Laden and told that jerk Musharraf to either cooperate or face American Special Forces and B-52 saturation bombing. Puk-i-stan is now the enemy and the enemy must be destroyed. 1,100 less terrorists who cares about Puke-istan
Where's the money coming from? My pocket? Your pocket? Oh, it will be added to the debt, you say? I guess my great-great grandchildren can pay for all this aid to people who hate out guts and would like nothing better than to see us dead. And how much more was just sent to Haiti? And is that being added to the debt, too? Why do I feel robbed? Answer: Because I am.
How about comparing the total cost to U.S. taxpayers of $135,000,000,000 in foreign aid to Israel. And what do we get for that 135 billion? C'mon now, tell me what we're getting for that 135 billion.
You don't seem to mind your great-great-grandkiddies paying for that now do ya?
for that 135 billion we have a government that IS CONTROLED BY ISRAEL AND THE ISRAELI/JEWISH LOBBYS. name one person who said anything negative about israel and didn't have their career ruined when they were branded antisemetic?
looks like jack failed the Mel Gibson sobriety field test. Spike, you can start with a variety of improvements to F-16 avionics and fire control. Though I get the impression you don't care to open your mind to any such info.
I wonder how much of the $10 mill will actually be used to help the people, and how much will end up in the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt Paki gov officials.
I am the one who will pay the debt. Have you ever talked to someone from Pakistan before? They do not all hate our guts. Thats like an extremist saying that all Americans are pigs. You are no better than them when you say things like that. And if you have talked to a Pakistani before and you found a reason not to like them then so what? That does not mean that they are all like that. You spread the same hate that terrorists do.
F16?? I thought we now were using the f 15 for the navy, and our new "stealth" f-22 for the airforce. The f 16 is obsolete by our current tech.. Since when have the Isralies done more than improve upon the tech we gave them?? not worth the money. we do it because we think we are obeying gods will. sound like anyone else??
@ adrian=============They could if they wanted to, they've got billions of American dollars! And further more if we send any food over there, the taliban will eat it too!
@Common Sense========= Where is our aid, where is the respect owed the American people by Congress?
We will not stop what has been going on in Congress through the ballot box! Working, legal Americans must take to the streets to bring Congress to heel! We need millions to walk the streets of Washington DC and bring business as usual to a halt!
Yeah @!$%# @!$%# and @!$%#. That what I can expect from an American, educated and civilized, ha ha ha. There is a saying that A donkey cannot become literate just by laboring books and that fits your perfectly.
Common Sense: We fully agree with you. Can you please give us details on how that should be done? You see and remember: they pray God, while killing slowly. They show no mercy there. Please, keep these also in mind!
And you wonder why the U.S. is broke! I will never vote for an incumbent come election time! And anyone that does deserves what the future holds for us!
@Steve==== Get radical, talk to all your young family members! Bend the ear of every person who has their
head in the sand and inform the uninformed! We can bring Congress to heel, we need a massive march on Washington! Don't allow your friends and neighbors stay uninvolved, RAISE HELL, WRITE IN THE PAPERS!
10 million down the drain......when will our government learn? I sit here and shake my head in disbelief. Has our government ever stepped in this quick on our own soil to help. The gulf is suffering and they haven't offered @!$%# to those people. Sure they got BP to set up relief but that is BP not US funds. Our government just sucks!!! I sure hope people start waking up and realize it's not the Dem's or Rep, It's far beyond that. The entire Gov is ruining this Country.
@sonofsoldier===========GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME THE ENEMY OF FREE AMERICANS! We need millions of free, legal Americans to go to Washington DC to stop business as usual! We can bring Congress to heel!
Our Gov't as it is today sucks !! I agree !!You know I love this country -My Dad served in battle WW2 - I served in battle Vietnam I taught my kids this was the best place on earth to live -I still believe it but cut the cheeze,I am gonna vote everybody that is in office OUT ! I am praying the ballot will be full of no name independants that will listen to what is really happening on main st USA.We are dieing out here with no jobs.10 mil $$ can find alot of work for alot of people.Come on you guys smell the coffee.we can't bring Congress to heel they don't even know we exist they think our name is Mr & Mrs Taxs.They think we are stupid 'serfs' sheep to be lied to and led to slaughter.Those arogant,elitest,self serving,greedy,crooked Son of Bi_chs gotta go !!!!!!!!!!!!!
"But like the earthquake relief effort, the U.S. must compete with aid groups run by Islamist militants who also use assistance to increase their support."
Great.
Nice PR job the U.S. is trying to pull here. I'm not sure it's enough to counter the 83% pf Pakistani's that do not like the U.S. according to the article.
It's sad that money can go to so many other countries, but when it comes to our own, where is the support? I'm tired of the U.S. government not loving America.
When does it all stop?? Who gave aid to the U.S. when several of our states were hit by severe flooding, hurricanes, and earthquakes? Our national debt has ballooned so much that even our great grand children's great grand children will never see the end of it. The politicians need to start worrying about cleaning up our country for a change. They have gotten so far out of hand it's ridiculous. They are hired to office to do what the people want, but when was the last time they did ANYTHING the majority wanted.
How about doing a little research before saying no one gave aid to the U.S during Katrina? Pakistan offered $1 million plus supplies to help with Katrina. Get a CLUE and stop being about me me me. Let me take a guess. You're a right winger. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9282598/
How can $1 million compare with $10 million? Plus, the US doesn't have any more to give away. We are broke. Can you understand the concept? Right or Left...broke is broke.
How can $1 million compare to $10 million? How about the fact that their GDP is 164 billion while the U.S is 14.59 trillion. It must be extremely tough coughing up 3 cents to help out thousands.....
Denverlib, did I say anywhere in my post that no one gave aid to the U.S. during Katrina? Read it again, I asked a question. As for the "me me me" nonsense, how did you come up with that thought? Because I expressed concern over our national debt and the future of our country?? Or was it the fact that I am tired of politicians not doing their job? And just to set you straight, I'm not a "right winger", so your guess on that was wrong too. "Get a Clue"
These give aways must stop. Millions of dollars to a country will be ravaged again and again, and the 10 million will be up in smoke. It is impossible for the United States to repair this country by themselves and no else is stepping up to the plate. This money is needed in this country. Obama and Hillary will give away the country to look good. This is similiar to the billions every year to Mexico a corrupt country. We cannot give to corrupt countries. E-mail your congressman and everyone, even Obama's web site.
I think it is about time we have a say where our money is going. I am tired of helping every country that has a disaster. We get little or no thanks, and very little respect. We have a responsibility to our own people. I am also tire of that bastard obama, spending every dime our taxes pay in.
Who said anything about a "Tea Party" America is going down the tube and you are worry about retired40 join the "Tea Party" People like YOU have a lot more to worry about that the Tea Party. You must have miss the part "We have a responsibility to our own people"
I can't believe the little respect you and others have for the president. Have you really listened to the news and what is really going on, or are you just ignorant. Bush caused all this crap going on , and Obama came in to a mess and is trying to clean it up. For every step he tries to take forward, the Republicans try to block it. If it wasn't for the Democrats, people would not have got their unemployment back as needed. Obama also has our health care going in the right direction. If it was up to the Republicans, they have been talking about taking our social security away and throwing the older people under the bus by trying to take away Medicare. Republicans are trying to collapse our finanical system. If you can't see that there is something wrong with you. Only the rich would benefit from this. If you want to line the pockets of the rich and get another Republican in office and ruin this country worse than it is now, cleaning it up from the last Republican, well God Help us all if that happens. They will have us living like we are in a third world country. At least Obama is trying to help the american people. Nothing more stupit than a poor Republican, because if your not rich a Republican vote is not going to help you.
I'll side with the majority of Americans, we should not be sending more money or aid of any kind to Pakistan! They
are the enemy and we are supporting them! We need to do whatever it takes to regain control of both the wealth of America and the control of Congress. If we can not successfully stop the "insane" economic and aid policies of the
Congress through the voting booth, then American citizens need to mass in the streets and bring our "out of control"
politicians to heel! We want the borders sealed, we want out of Afghanistan, we want foreign aid stopped and we want Congress brought back under control of the voters! How can these "idiots" contemplate changes in any
domestic program as long as "so-called" aid is being dealt out by the billions to friend and foe alike?
SUPPORT A MORATORIUM ON NON-DOMESTIC SPENDING ,TO START WITH!
thats great, the corrupt pakistani government will steal most of the money and then the taliban will loot the rest. any idiot who joins a relief agency and goes to pakistan to help these god forsaken devil worshipers will learn the hard way when they get murdered. f++k pakistan, and f++k ALL MUSLIMS. a total waste of american taxpayer's money thrown away by a government that has lost touch with the american people or reality for that matter. pakistan and the pakistani people ARE OUR EMEMY, just let them die!
I say withhold the money. I know the Libs and the other bleeding hearts will jump on this as cold-hearted, but that area made its pact with the devil by siding with the Taliban and Bin Laden. Let them choke on it and see what siding with them gets them.
When we send all the money to other countries, they just laugh at how stupid and foolish we are with our money. If we throw cash at them, they'll certainly take it, but they'll hate us for it. It doesn't buy us any good will.
AND HOW MANY OF OUR BOYS ARE DEAD AND STILL DYING BECAUSE OF THE PAKISTANI SYMPATHY FOR THE TALIBAN AND BIN LADEN. The Pakistanis today still shield both the Taliban and Bin Laden. The Pakistani SS probably tells them when we're coming as well....
Hmm, shouldn't the money go to the Northern Afghans who are also effected by the flood?? Over 90 % of the Afghan Army that fights along side our troops are from the Northern Afghan tribes.
Help our enemies? screw our freinds??
Almost a century ago Colonel Lawrence said everything was tribal in this part of the world. Support the tribe that helps you. Screw the others.
Wow...we are so generous..we just keep coming up with millions and millions of dollars to support all the countries in the world!! This pic looks like the poverty stricken people right here in the heart of Los Angeles, "SKID Row," but without the stream of water!!! What about all the starving people in OUR own backyard? When are we going to do something for all those people that have been stricken with mental illness...and walk the streets for years!!! @!$%# giving away all our taxed earnings; I didn't even know we still had all that money to keep giving away!! Yah...@!$%# it!!!!
Whenever there is an article about extension of unemployment, Americans attack Americans and call each other leeches, thieves, lazy. We attack one another for politics that allow jobs to go to nations that are not friendly to the US. Yet, the monies spent on foreign aid and useless wars can help at home.
We will have a civil war soon if we don't redirect resources and jobs back into the US economy.
At least WWII produced and fed the US economy. And the US aid in Europe was not squandered because we were not trying to reinvent cultures.
Our downfall will be the internet - these blogs.
Nothing is heard louder and works better than actual live demonstrations on the street against a war, or the state of economy, or whatever.
Like the ones against racism, and against the Vietnam war. They produced results.
We are spinning wheels on these blogs.
Where is the college-aged peoples' outrage that they don't have jobs after college - and no future? And that education is starting to be totally unaffordable with parents losing jobs and homes?
Historically, the young people would organize such peaceful demonstrations. Where are they?
Somebody in the government needs to catch on here. We are supporting the leaders in Iraq and having our troops killed while blowing tons of cash while the leader was voted out of office and said he would not leave. That is their idea of Democracy. Now Pakistan where nothing is done for our country but we prop them up and send money. Apparently we have quite a bit of cash to throw around. We should leave their countries, like the want us to, and let them fight as they have been doing for thousands of years. If they hide people who want to attack our country, carpet bomb their cities. Basically, "you hide them we will bomb them". If they refuse to let oil come into this country, take over the fields and pay a reasonable price deducting the cost of getting it. This may seem a bit extreme but these people are our enemies and should be treated as such.
"First of all, I don't see America having problems." --George W. Bush, Aug. 10, 2008
"We got plenty of money in Washington. What we need is more priority." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 2, 2008
"Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter." --George W. Bush, in parting words to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy at his final G-8 Summit, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
Any national disaster in any country is awful - innocent people do not deserve to suffer. On that note - I'd prefer that our country would just stay out of it.I do not agree with sending money to a country that harbors our sworn enemies. We have our own countrymen, women and children that need our aid and are not getting it. Love your neighbors - but lets focus on the one's on our block and not thousands of miles away!
I second that vote!!! Why is our gov't so eager to shell out millions/billions of dollars in relief and aid for foreign countries but leave those that are needy in our own country to fend for themselves?? How can a country with so many internal problems ever think they can solve the rest of the world's problems when we can't even get it right in our own backyard? I guess if they did, it wouldn't be headline news on MSNBC.
A U.S. audit has found that the Pentagon cannot account for over 95 percent of $9.1 billion in Iraq reconstruction money.
The $8.7 billion in question was Iraqi money managed by the Pentagon. Tracing the rest of the money is difficult because of a combination of lax financial controls and management, the failure to oversee the spending and the failure to set up and deposit the funds in special accounts, as required by the Treasury Department.
You know, I am with all those that want control back in the hands of hte people, but those of you that are spewing hate, remember we trained bin laden and his follower in the art of jihad. That is what got the soviets kicked out. Like all the dumb assed leaders we keep voting for we left the region without taking care of het monster we had created. Fast forward here we are now, so stop blaming Muslims and Pakistanis only, some of them have their ills and we certainly have ours at home.
Sorry for the good people (if there are any) in Pakistan. But tough. Why give them $10m when out own need it. When will the idiots in Washington learn. All these foreigners want our money and then return to Taliban rule. Maybe God's trying to rid us of the Taliban so we can finally leave. Oh, yeah. We should leave now!!!
Pakistanis are muslims. Muslims hate everyone who isn't muslim. Tell me again why I should give a damn about the muslims in Pakistan? Or anywhere else for that matter.
That was a poor analogy Denver. All whites are not KKK members, thus all whites do not hate blacks. However, if Pakistanis are all Muslims, indeed they do hate everyone who is not Muslim.
theres been MILLIONS kill and sloterd in south africa that means nothing to the USA!
We helped them out financially after the earthquake, and they still hate us! It's a hopeless situation, just like Haiti.
I propose we that we simply deduct it out of the millions that we give to Israel every year. After all, what has Israel done for the US in the last decade?
I agree with both your points!
obama responded faster to pakistan than bush did to new orleans
and faster than Obama responded to New Orleans too!
Why can't Pakistan use some of the BILLIONS of dollars we send their government to help their own damn people?
uh, er, W was president when Katrina hit NOLA
Because theyre freaking corrupt and the leadership there is disgusting. I have to say though, Pakistan should be looked at with a different view than how people are looking at it. The northern areas of pakistan are the same pasthoon as from afghanistan and those are the ones causing havoc. They are killing more pakistani civilians than we'd kill ourselves if we could get our hands on it. This flood is in the northern areas so I darn well hope pakistan takes as long as it can before it starts helping those people.
Pick another $10 million off the ol' money tree.
If there are any leaves left on it...
"slotered"? Ouch.
Next time try 'slaughtered'......(like: "You're slaughtering the English language."...)
Another $10 Million to be paid for by the grandkids of us who did not vote for Obama. STOP THE INSANITY!
Bush is the one that created this nightmare. It was Bush that turned the Democratic surplus into a 12 Trillion dollar deficit. His actions are still driving the deficit out of site. Obama inherited this problem and has been trying to get it under control, but you people are too stupid to understand the Republican party caused this and with your help will take back control and make it that much worse. Try to grow a brain.
Craig speakman:
Israel never attacked or bombed NYC where as the Muslim and Palestinian have. Israel and USA have been friends since 1947 when Israel was conceived under UN charter. America and Israel are more than important trading partners, mutually benefiting both countries. When Saddam launched surprise missile attacks upon Israel during the US invasion of Iraq, the US requested Israel not to retaliate against Iraq as that may jeopardize key Arab support of US military bases in neighboring Arab nations as well as the possibility of mobilizing hostile Arab intervention that may increase US casualty. Israel complied only because America is a long-time friend of Israel. What America asked of Israel is no small favor. No sovereign nation should be asked to swallow its pride and allow itself to be attacked by Iraqi missiles with impunity.
I hope I have answered your question.
lol this thread is filled with the silliest excuses of how israel earns the $3 billion/year from us. You want credit for not attacking a country that we were attacking anyway?! Wow the sacrifices of Israel for the US....
Usually Israel tells us to eff off when we beg them to stop encroachments on a land they forced away from people or when they start carpet bombing civilians or attacking humanitarian ships trying to break through a blockade that was limiting supplies, food aid and even stuff like candy!!
God help me for questioning Israel because we all know that we Americans dont dare do that. We only bend over and pay you in fear
I say forget the money being given to Pakistan and forget the money being given to Israel. Use it to build a decent healthcare system thats not ranked 35 in the world.
Ok, when are we going to realize Governemnts do not care about other countries that they cannot benefit from. What can we benefit from Haiti??? NOTHING. What can we benefit from South Africa??? NOTHING. Sure you'll see a few organizations trying to help but there is not much they can do. Now I'm not saying that it is right to treat them that way, but it is a fact of life. Can you live with that? If not then move there and do what you can, keep in mind for the past 600+ years tribes have been cutting off arm, legs and heads because a great great grandfather was in a certain tribe. It's hard to change that. So when you say MILLIONS have been killed and slautered, they are doing it to themselves. As long as they are doing there and not here, we are all ok with it.
How do we beneift from the BILLIONS in foreign and military aid to Israel? September 11th? The Cole? Beruit?
Please list the benefits.
Feronia: Why should our tax money go as aids to our killers? Rich Sheikhs of Saudi Arabia, UAE and ME finance all the Islamic radicals and militants all over the world. Let them give some aids to those affected in savage valley!
Ten million in aid but no mention if we've any Humanitarian aid on the ground helping victims or whether or not the Taliban and Al Qaida in the region have mobilized any aid to assist their neighbors, host and fellow Muslims. This seems to be a situation where "actions" could go much farther than words and/or cash (which probably will wind up in some corrupt tribal leaders pockets anyhow) in proving our intent for the region and developing that "good will" our leaders keep claiming to be about. If I were a Pakistani in peril from this disaster, seeing the difference in how these different factions respond to and come together for the people caught in this dillema would go a long way. This is a moment for groups to set aside there differences and come to the aid of their fellow human beings. To be attacked while administering aid would undoubtedly be a huge propaganda tool for those attacked and something to be avoided by all those concerned.
@john====== To hell with my fellow human being "Pakistanis", you call animals that will cut innocent peoples'
heads off or condemn another human to death because of some "dumbass" religious" belief humans? The more of them that croak, the less our Anti-american gov't can bring over here for your children to grow up with!
First cut off all aid to Puke-i-stan and give it all to India their arch rival, any country that harbors AL-Qaeda and their ilk risks invasion and I’m not talking about the wimp Bush’s type of invasion. Puke-i-stan now harbors Bin-Laden and the Taliban either give Bin Laden to us or we use chemical, biological and dirty bombs to neutralize the threat if thousands of Muslims die in the process… well chalk it up to collateral damage, so sorry. We should have gone into Puke-istan on day one and got Bin Laden and told that jerk Musharraf to either cooperate or face American Special Forces and B-52 saturation bombing. Puk-i-stan is now the enemy and the enemy must be destroyed. 1,100 less terrorists who cares about Puke-istan
Where's the money coming from? My pocket? Your pocket? Oh, it will be added to the debt, you say? I guess my great-great grandchildren can pay for all this aid to people who hate out guts and would like nothing better than to see us dead. And how much more was just sent to Haiti? And is that being added to the debt, too? Why do I feel robbed? Answer: Because I am.
I know I am NOT the only one who wishes like hell our government would cease trying to buy friends. Am I?
I simply cannot afford any more 'friends' like that! We don't need them. Too many of those kind of 'friends' as it is!
Hm, lets see now.
How about comparing the total cost to U.S. taxpayers of $135,000,000,000 in foreign aid to Israel. And what do we get for that 135 billion? C'mon now, tell me what we're getting for that 135 billion.
You don't seem to mind your great-great-grandkiddies paying for that now do ya?
You feel robbed for one reason and one reason only - you think that you're the only person on this planet who counts for anything.
That's the view of a child. It's time for you to grow up.
for that 135 billion we have a government that IS CONTROLED BY ISRAEL AND THE ISRAELI/JEWISH LOBBYS. name one person who said anything negative about israel and didn't have their career ruined when they were branded antisemetic?
looks like jack failed the Mel Gibson sobriety field test. Spike, you can start with a variety of improvements to F-16 avionics and fire control. Though I get the impression you don't care to open your mind to any such info.
Yes! F-16 avionics and fire control is def worth yearly spending of $135,000,000,000
I wonder how much of the $10 mill will actually be used to help the people, and how much will end up in the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt Paki gov officials.
I am the one who will pay the debt. Have you ever talked to someone from Pakistan before? They do not all hate our guts. Thats like an extremist saying that all Americans are pigs. You are no better than them when you say things like that. And if you have talked to a Pakistani before and you found a reason not to like them then so what? That does not mean that they are all like that. You spread the same hate that terrorists do.
F16?? I thought we now were using the f 15 for the navy, and our new "stealth" f-22 for the airforce. The f 16 is obsolete by our current tech.. Since when have the Isralies done more than improve upon the tech we gave them?? not worth the money. we do it because we think we are obeying gods will. sound like anyone else??
I don't see the Taliban putting up $10 mill for Flood Relief, to help the people - do you ?
@ adrian=============They could if they wanted to, they've got billions of American dollars! And further more if we send any food over there, the taliban will eat it too!
adrian: Taliban steal our hard earned tax money through Pakistan intelligence, ISI. So $10 millions is peanuts!
F*** pakistan!!!!!
and our Government for doing this
@Common Sense========= Where is our aid, where is the respect owed the American people by Congress?
We will not stop what has been going on in Congress through the ballot box! Working, legal Americans must take to the streets to bring Congress to heel! We need millions to walk the streets of Washington DC and bring business as usual to a halt!
Common Sense: This is one of the most sensible comments! More than 60 percent of non-Muslims are with you!
Yeah @!$%# @!$%# and @!$%#. That what I can expect from an American, educated and civilized, ha ha ha. There is a saying that A donkey cannot become literate just by laboring books and that fits your perfectly.
Common Sense: We fully agree with you. Can you please give us details on how that should be done? You see and remember: they pray God, while killing slowly. They show no mercy there. Please, keep these also in mind!
Absolutely bro...and F*** U.S. too, for F***ing with Pakistan
What, Again?
Common Sense: Sooner we all do it better for us. By the by, what their people in our nations? Pack them back? Half of world problems over!
.....and how much will actually benefit the people after corruption takes their share. When will we learn, money cannot by friendship.
And you wonder why the U.S. is broke! I will never vote for an incumbent come election time! And anyone that does deserves what the future holds for us!
@Steve==== Get radical, talk to all your young family members! Bend the ear of every person who has their
head in the sand and inform the uninformed! We can bring Congress to heel, we need a massive march on Washington! Don't allow your friends and neighbors stay uninvolved, RAISE HELL, WRITE IN THE PAPERS!
10 million down the drain......when will our government learn? I sit here and shake my head in disbelief. Has our government ever stepped in this quick on our own soil to help. The gulf is suffering and they haven't offered @!$%# to those people. Sure they got BP to set up relief but that is BP not US funds. Our government just sucks!!! I sure hope people start waking up and realize it's not the Dem's or Rep, It's far beyond that. The entire Gov is ruining this Country.
@sonofsoldier===========GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME THE ENEMY OF FREE AMERICANS! We need millions of free, legal Americans to go to Washington DC to stop business as usual! We can bring Congress to heel!
Our Gov't as it is today sucks !! I agree !!You know I love this country -My Dad served in battle WW2 - I served in battle Vietnam I taught my kids this was the best place on earth to live -I still believe it but cut the cheeze,I am gonna vote everybody that is in office OUT ! I am praying the ballot will be full of no name independants that will listen to what is really happening on main st USA.We are dieing out here with no jobs.10 mil $$ can find alot of work for alot of people.Come on you guys smell the coffee.we can't bring Congress to heel they don't even know we exist they think our name is Mr & Mrs Taxs.They think we are stupid 'serfs' sheep to be lied to and led to slaughter.Those arogant,elitest,self serving,greedy,crooked Son of Bi_chs gotta go !!!!!!!!!!!!!
"But like the earthquake relief effort, the U.S. must compete with aid groups run by Islamist militants who also use assistance to increase their support."
Great.
Nice PR job the U.S. is trying to pull here. I'm not sure it's enough to counter the 83% pf Pakistani's that do not like the U.S. according to the article.
It's sad that money can go to so many other countries, but when it comes to our own, where is the support? I'm tired of the U.S. government not loving America.
@ what now?========We freedom loving, legal Americans need to go to the streets to paralyze Congress,
we need a massive demonstration in Washington DC , and I mean millions!
NOW!!!
When does it all stop?? Who gave aid to the U.S. when several of our states were hit by severe flooding, hurricanes, and earthquakes? Our national debt has ballooned so much that even our great grand children's great grand children will never see the end of it. The politicians need to start worrying about cleaning up our country for a change. They have gotten so far out of hand it's ridiculous. They are hired to office to do what the people want, but when was the last time they did ANYTHING the majority wanted.
How about doing a little research before saying no one gave aid to the U.S during Katrina? Pakistan offered $1 million plus supplies to help with Katrina. Get a CLUE and stop being about me me me. Let me take a guess. You're a right winger. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9282598/
How can $1 million compare with $10 million? Plus, the US doesn't have any more to give away. We are broke. Can you understand the concept? Right or Left...broke is broke.
How can $1 million compare to $10 million? How about the fact that their GDP is 164 billion while the U.S is 14.59 trillion. It must be extremely tough coughing up 3 cents to help out thousands.....
Interesting I never saw that... actually im amazed our media never mentioned stuff like this
United Arab Emirates: $100 million pledged
Saudi Arabia: $5 million from Aramco, $250,000 from AGFUND
Qatar: $100 million pledged
Oman: $15 million
Pakistan: $1 million pledged to the Red Cross, supplies
Bangladesh: $1 million pledged
Odd how I cant find Israel on that list
Denverlib, did I say anywhere in my post that no one gave aid to the U.S. during Katrina? Read it again, I asked a question. As for the "me me me" nonsense, how did you come up with that thought? Because I expressed concern over our national debt and the future of our country?? Or was it the fact that I am tired of politicians not doing their job? And just to set you straight, I'm not a "right winger", so your guess on that was wrong too. "Get a Clue"
These give aways must stop. Millions of dollars to a country will be ravaged again and again, and the 10 million will be up in smoke. It is impossible for the United States to repair this country by themselves and no else is stepping up to the plate. This money is needed in this country. Obama and Hillary will give away the country to look good. This is similiar to the billions every year to Mexico a corrupt country. We cannot give to corrupt countries. E-mail your congressman and everyone, even Obama's web site.
I think it is about time we have a say where our money is going. I am tired of helping every country that has a disaster. We get little or no thanks, and very little respect. We have a responsibility to our own people. I am also tire of that bastard obama, spending every dime our taxes pay in.
@retired40==========Right on , we must bring Congress to heel! Either join the "Tea Party" or something similar!
Who said anything about a "Tea Party" America is going down the tube and you are worry about retired40 join the "Tea Party" People like YOU have a lot more to worry about that the Tea Party. You must have miss the part "We have a responsibility to our own people"
I can't believe the little respect you and others have for the president. Have you really listened to the news and what is really going on, or are you just ignorant. Bush caused all this crap going on , and Obama came in to a mess and is trying to clean it up. For every step he tries to take forward, the Republicans try to block it. If it wasn't for the
Democrats, people would not have got their unemployment back as needed. Obama also has our health care going in the right direction. If it was up to the Republicans, they have been talking about taking our social security away and throwing the older people under the bus by trying to take away Medicare. Republicans are trying to collapse our finanical system. If you can't see that there is something wrong with you. Only the rich would benefit from this. If you want to line the pockets of the rich and get another Republican in office and ruin this country worse than it is now, cleaning it up from the last Republican, well God Help us all if that happens. They will have us living like we are in a third world country. At least Obama is trying to help the american people. Nothing more stupit than a poor Republican, because if your not rich a Republican vote is not going to help you.
I'll side with the majority of Americans, we should not be sending more money or aid of any kind to Pakistan! They
are the enemy and we are supporting them! We need to do whatever it takes to regain control of both the wealth of America and the control of Congress. If we can not successfully stop the "insane" economic and aid policies of the
Congress through the voting booth, then American citizens need to mass in the streets and bring our "out of control"
politicians to heel! We want the borders sealed, we want out of Afghanistan, we want foreign aid stopped and we want Congress brought back under control of the voters! How can these "idiots" contemplate changes in any
domestic program as long as "so-called" aid is being dealt out by the billions to friend and foe alike?
SUPPORT A MORATORIUM ON NON-DOMESTIC SPENDING ,TO START WITH!
Just because you have a mouth doesn't mean you have to use it ALL the time.
How about you having a chat with your neighbor? You know, the one who used to live at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
thats great, the corrupt pakistani government will steal most of the money and then the taliban will loot the rest. any idiot who joins a relief agency and goes to pakistan to help these god forsaken devil worshipers will learn the hard way when they get murdered. f++k pakistan, and f++k ALL MUSLIMS. a total waste of american taxpayer's money thrown away by a government that has lost touch with the american people or reality for that matter. pakistan and the pakistani people ARE OUR EMEMY, just let them die!
I say withhold the money. I know the Libs and the other bleeding hearts will jump on this as cold-hearted, but that area made its pact with the devil by siding with the Taliban and Bin Laden. Let them choke on it and see what siding with them gets them.
When we send all the money to other countries, they just laugh at how stupid and foolish we are with our money. If we throw cash at them, they'll certainly take it, but they'll hate us for it. It doesn't buy us any good will.
AND HOW MANY OF OUR BOYS ARE DEAD AND STILL DYING BECAUSE OF THE PAKISTANI SYMPATHY FOR THE TALIBAN AND BIN LADEN. The Pakistanis today still shield both the Taliban and Bin Laden. The Pakistani SS probably tells them when we're coming as well....
Hmm, shouldn't the money go to the Northern Afghans who are also effected by the flood?? Over 90 % of the Afghan Army that fights along side our troops are from the Northern Afghan tribes.
Help our enemies? screw our freinds??
Almost a century ago Colonel Lawrence said everything was tribal in this part of the world. Support the tribe that helps you. Screw the others.
Wow...we are so generous..we just keep coming up with millions and millions of dollars to support all the countries in the world!! This pic looks like the poverty stricken people right here in the heart of Los Angeles, "SKID Row," but without the stream of water!!! What about all the starving people in OUR own backyard? When are we going to do something for all those people that have been stricken with mental illness...and walk the streets for years!!! @!$%# giving away all our taxed earnings; I didn't even know we still had all that money to keep giving away!! Yah...@!$%# it!!!!
Irene - you are correct.
Whenever there is an article about extension of unemployment, Americans attack Americans and call each other leeches, thieves, lazy. We attack one another for politics that allow jobs to go to nations that are not friendly to the US. Yet, the monies spent on foreign aid and useless wars can help at home.
We will have a civil war soon if we don't redirect resources and jobs back into the US economy.
At least WWII produced and fed the US economy. And the US aid in Europe was not squandered because we were not trying to reinvent cultures.
Our downfall will be the internet - these blogs.
Nothing is heard louder and works better than actual live demonstrations on the street against a war, or the state of economy, or whatever.
Like the ones against racism, and against the Vietnam war. They produced results.
We are spinning wheels on these blogs.
Where is the college-aged peoples' outrage that they don't have jobs after college - and no future? And that education is starting to be totally unaffordable with parents losing jobs and homes?
Historically, the young people would organize such peaceful demonstrations. Where are they?
Somebody in the government needs to catch on here. We are supporting the leaders in Iraq and having our troops killed while blowing tons of cash while the leader was voted out of office and said he would not leave. That is their idea of Democracy. Now Pakistan where nothing is done for our country but we prop them up and send money. Apparently we have quite a bit of cash to throw around. We should leave their countries, like the want us to, and let them fight as they have been doing for thousands of years. If they hide people who want to attack our country, carpet bomb their cities. Basically, "you hide them we will bomb them". If they refuse to let oil come into this country, take over the fields and pay a reasonable price deducting the cost of getting it. This may seem a bit extreme but these people are our enemies and should be treated as such.
Don't worry, we have the money, just take a look and you can see all that cash we have. !0 Million, only chump change.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
"First of all, I don't see America having problems." --George W. Bush, Aug. 10, 2008
"We got plenty of money in Washington. What we need is more priority." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 2, 2008
"Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter." --George W. Bush, in parting words to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy at his final G-8 Summit, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
Any national disaster in any country is awful - innocent people do not deserve to suffer. On that note - I'd prefer that our country would just stay out of it.I do not agree with sending money to a country that harbors our sworn enemies. We have our own countrymen, women and children that need our aid and are not getting it. Love your neighbors - but lets focus on the one's on our block and not thousands of miles away!
I second that vote!!! Why is our gov't so eager to shell out millions/billions of dollars in relief and aid for foreign countries but leave those that are needy in our own country to fend for themselves?? How can a country with so many internal problems ever think they can solve the rest of the world's problems when we can't even get it right in our own backyard? I guess if they did, it wouldn't be headline news on MSNBC.
Put our military in charge of the relief effort, good pr.....use our money, our troops our pr. When the politicians get in the way shoot them.
Are you nuts?!?!?
A U.S. audit has found that the Pentagon cannot account for over 95 percent of $9.1 billion in Iraq reconstruction money.
The $8.7 billion in question was Iraqi money managed by the Pentagon. Tracing the rest of the money is difficult because of a combination of lax financial controls and management, the failure to oversee the spending and the failure to set up and deposit the funds in special accounts, as required by the Treasury Department.
You know, I am with all those that want control back in the hands of hte people, but those of you that are spewing hate, remember we trained bin laden and his follower in the art of jihad. That is what got the soviets kicked out. Like all the dumb assed leaders we keep voting for we left the region without taking care of het monster we had created. Fast forward here we are now, so stop blaming Muslims and Pakistanis only, some of them have their ills and we certainly have ours at home.
Vote them OUT!!!!!! Vote them Out!!!
Sorry for the good people (if there are any) in Pakistan. But tough. Why give them $10m when out own need it. When will the idiots in Washington learn. All these foreigners want our money and then return to Taliban rule. Maybe God's trying to rid us of the Taliban so we can finally leave. Oh, yeah. We should leave now!!!
Pakistanis are muslims. Muslims hate everyone who isn't muslim. Tell me again why I should give a damn about the muslims in Pakistan? Or anywhere else for that matter.
Wow....dumbest statement ever. The KKK hates African Americans. KKK members are all white; therefore all whites hate African Americans. Right?
Black KKK Member http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skLPurhMgtY&feature=related
That was a poor analogy Denver. All whites are not KKK members, thus all whites do not hate blacks. However, if Pakistanis are all Muslims, indeed they do hate everyone who is not Muslim.