The White House apologized on Wednesday to a black Agriculture Department employee who was ousted for her remarks about race, acknowledging that officials did not know all the facts when she was fired.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs called the dismissal of Shirley Sherrod an injustice and a mistake and said he was apologizing for the "entire administration." He also said Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack was trying to reach her to extend an apology.
White House apologizes to ousted official
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Seeded on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:35 AM EDT (msnbc.com)


The NAACP didn't have one word to say about her "shameful remarks" until conservative news outlets and commentators made sure this video saw the light of day.
You are correct, however they did jump right up and publicly denounce the tea party for being racist months after this comment was made. Hmmmm.............
And when they became aware, they reacted. Expecting the NAACP to react before they knew something is silly.
And they should continue to denounce the tea party.Two wrongs will NEVER make a right!
The NAACP does not monitor everybody 24/7. They reacted when the tape came out. So did everybody else. Do you expect NAACP to be clairvoyants ?
What ????? Her remarks were made to the NAACP!
just my thoughts, i guess you missed the part about it being an NAACP event with all kinds of NAACP officers in the audience!!??
These remarks were not made at a NATIONAL platform - they were made at a LOCAL one.
The Obama administration must be stopped. How did this woman ever get her job in the first place ?? Was she given this job because she is black and because she is female or did she get it because she was the best person for the job ??
Her actions prove she was not the best person for the job.
Does this answer the question or do we need to ask a whole lot more from the Obama administration ?? Why do black panthers in Philadelphia get a pass from a likely conviction ??
and after they found out they booted her, many people stating firm opposition to her comments, and saying they will investigate the people in attendance who reacted rascist as well, unlike teaparty express. They didn't castigate or boot him. The national teaparty had to suspend the whole teaparty express because they refused to. I also haven't heard the same level of condemnation to the types of actions - instead I hear plenty of people denouncing it as irrelavent or reverse racism. You can't have it both ways. NAACP and teaparty are not racist organizations but they are havens for racist ideals. Just like a fraternity is a haven for alcoholic ideals, even if that's not their mission/founding principles.
Yeah, and there are no hypocrites in the republick'on party, they're always soooooo open and transparent, whatever dude! Go on and blindly vote your precious pub's back into office in November you party line hack, and get 4 more years of woe tacked onto the last 8 and see what happens... of course you'll just deny any bad and rush to pat whoever on the back.
P.S. You spelled democratic, transparent, and hypocrites wrong (twice) Einstein! Go back and check your Huktonfonix so you can learn to spell before you rant ok genius, how did you ever pass your ASVAB? Guess you don't need to be smart to be in the teaparty lol!
Piratewench, if it is an organization, and I am pretty sure it is, this is exactly the thing the oragizational structure is for. Reporting up and down the chain
Stop making excuses, it makes you appear to be OK with this. Are you?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, well in that case...
reundoer - don't be ridiculous. They only "booted" her when they realized they had no choice - not because it was the right thing to do.
just my thoughts didn't you read where she spoke these words at a naacp freedon fund raiser lol . but to the others here yes there are racist in the tea party, but they don't represent the whole, but look at naacp the leaders and the people they have speak do show who represents the whole. we are all human, mistakes are made but why feed the fires of racist with more. there will always be racist, but we need to to be better and not be drawn into making it worst. both parties are ajoke hope we can agree on that. but we are americians until we all look at ourselves like that instead of our color, and we all are of the same blood, we are the human race. myself being a christian i beleive we all have the same beginnings we all came from the original 2 people, so no matter what your color is you are my brother my sister. until we can come to that realization. we can't over come
sorry just my thought, i meant mr fusion, my eye ar not what they use to be i am truly sorry
govhater, own up, your comments are just more of the same finger pointing that has politics in gridlock, nobody does anything but cry about the other side.
1) President Obama is not the cause of racism in this country. Many in this country were racist before he was born and will be after he is gone. NAACP is not the cause, and the Tea Party is not the cause.
2) @"The NAACP are now nothing but a bunch of black hipocritic racist that are trying to smear the teaparty.":
This statement is ignorant and hardly worth addressing, except to say that one should never group people into stereotypes or assume that they know everything there is to know about a person or a group of people.
3) @"The Liberals need to use facts to justify their position, not emotional sensationalism."
This is good advice for everyone, not just liberals.
4) @"The NAACP didn't have one word to say about her "shameful remarks" until conservative news outlets and commentators made sure this video saw the light of day."
You are implying here that liberal commentators would not have seen this act as wrong, in which case I think you are mistaken. However, it is true that many public officials only resign or take appropriate actions after the public holds them accountable.
It is painfully obvious that the only reason this individual was in her position of power was in meeting a race base quota.
The ASVAB is the Armed Services Vocatioanl Aptitude Battery, it is an aptitude test to determine what you are the most proficient in, it is not a pass/fail test. If you are going to critique someone on their spelling and language, and then insult their intelligence, the least you could is prove your own intelligence by knowing what you are talking about.
Let's Not 'Scratch a Sore' - NBC News Dances Around Race Stories
http://www.thefoxnation.com/media/2010/07/20/lets-not-scratch-sore-nbc-news-dances-around-race-stories
What did Obama have to do with this?
I think this country has a lot of racial mistrust, exacerbated now with a half-white president, that whites, blacks and even himself consider 100% black. I think everybody is racist in some degree, because you just can't tell what people are thinking behind their mask of been polite or politically correct. Nevertheless, at least in this country the white people started it and it would take a long time to break down that mistrust.
@ Chucky...Didn't you know that EVERYTHING wrong is the world today is OBAMA's FAULT? I mean, it's not like he came into a bad economic situation with a deficit out of this world. I mean, Bush left this country in perfectly grand condition and here goes this BLACKMAN and destroys it all. If you believe that I have some beach-front property in the middle of Kansas I'm selling; white sandy beach, seagulls, starfish, all of it right on the pretty blue ocean. Oh yeah, I also have a line on a bridge if you're interested.
MSM wonders why they are so irrelevant? They never break a story on barry, always coming in for sloppy seconds. It is obvious that msm couldn't miss all these stories unless they tried and that is exactly what they are doing. Not reporting, just providing cover for their boy!
NAACP has connection with black. It is understandable that there are few to quite a few people in NAACP that share this racist's point of view by the way the NAACP audiences reacted to her speech.
NAACP has to decide what she wants to be. A black reverse-racists group or a champion for civil justice.
To be later, they have to clean their house through and through.
It is hypocritical when you practice what you accused others of.
) President Obama is not the cause of racism in this country. Many in this country were racist before he was born and will be after he is gone. NAACP is not the cause, and the Tea Party is not the cause.
Obama tries to use the race card every chance he gets. In the last 30-40 years I have never heard so much racism BS until this man was elected. The man is half black and half white so don't hand me that crap that it all started because a black man was elected president. Take a look at most of his czars and appointees.
How did the black panthers get a pass, what they showed was without a doubt racism and intimidating people at the voting polls which is illegal. Did eric holder just happen to overlook the whole thing. If any white group came out and acted like that he would be trying them for hate crimes. How come no one is calling him a racist or investigating the DOJ. The congress and the senate both have the power. The president has the power. WTF?????????
These damn liberals cause more problems with thier lies and BS that politics are sickening anymore. Everytime you turn around thier trying to use racism or the GOP did this or that. Wake up people, the GOP votes against all this crap because thier trying to do something about the deficit, the democrats just keep spending as if there was no tomorrow. Don't any of you people know how printing money works. IT DOESN"T, unless your'e one of the banks in the federal reserve!
Regardless of how this was brought to light or whether it seems the NAACP should have known about this incident or not, I welcome their condemnation as I welcome her departure from the FDA and the TEA Party Federation kicking the Tea Party Express to the curb. Racism is wrong whether it's a black official acting like a female Archie Bunker or a White organization's "leader" writing a hateful letter. I get constantly attacked as a racist for having strong views against Radical Islam but I don't condemn Islam as a whole and have had and will continue to have Muslim friends (who's beliefs are as strong if not stronger than mine against the ISLAMISTS). The only way to eliminate racism is to confront it and anytime that happens it's welcome news.
As an obvious racist based on his many racist associations including Eric Holder, Farrakhan, Wright, Jones, NAACP, and-on-and-on-and-on, this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that Obama and his administration is fostering radical black racism.
She is obviously a racist, and got what she deserved, but the real problem is the approving attitude of her audience.
If this was a White official, and a White audience reacted that way, it would be front page fodder throughout the World.
The media double-standard is fully exposed, since Blacks seem to think it's "impossible" for a Black person to be a "racist".
Matthew 7: 3-5
Tim, stop spending, stop the wars.
You mean like the Tea Party racism accusations? The only national platform the racism remarks came from was the White House jumping on the bandwagon to denounce the Tea Party based on the actions of a few people (in which there STILL isn't proof). I guess the Black Panther thing got a pass because it was just a local event too? Or how about that professor in Washington State who called for the death of all white people at a speach made to the hispanics? Reverse discrimination is still racism no matter who says it. To defend it is to be a racist yourself.
Trying tactics like this from the left rather than just running on the fact they passed all these wonderful world changing bills? Why won't they just run on the fact that "hey I rammed these bills through"?
"however they did jump right up and publicly denounce the tea party for being racist months after this comment was made. Hmmm"
So what's your point? That they should not have condemned the tea party's racism because this woman made a racist remark in March? -- a remark they didn't know about? Hmmm. You're a moron.
Willowbrook, I was thinking the same thing.
Being from Southern Indiana myself, and knowing many farmers, I challenge anyone with a desk job in an air conditioned office to not feel a little insignificant compared to a farmer when you listen to what they do and go through every day. Then on top of that, he was most likely just trying to make a good enough impression to get help.
Did any of you bother to find out the rest of the story??? No, as usual. Big Government should probably post the speech in its entirety
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/would-shirley-sherrods-full-naacp-speech-give-a-different-impression/19561003
Fiscalconservative, you are correct and I might add the only real thing the NAACP found shameful was that these racist comments came to the attention of the public. Otherwise, they were perfectly fine with it.
Does anyone out there believe this attitude is NOT rampant in this administration?
tim-580939
A few facts for you
The criminal charges against those racist POS in the new Black Panther Party were dropped before President Obama came into office. They were dropped by the DOJ under President Bushes administration. Obama's administration dropped the civil case, no doubt partially because of the deep sixing of the criminal case.
The deficit that you are so worried about, justifiably so, was mostly created by the GOP. Democrats are "tax and spend" while Republicans are "borrow and spend". Remember what VP Cheney said, "Reagan proved Deficits don't matter". Also remember that the debt was built up on purpose. Don't you recall Reagan's mantra, "starve the beast". Stop being a sheep and educate yourself. Every time you run around screaming "LIBERAL" you are being herded.
Try going to treasurydirect.gov there you can lookup the National Debt by the date, to the penny. Think about who was in office when the money was borrowed and spent.
Really? I do believe that this occured at an NAACP meeting, and judging by the reaction it was well received by all that attended. If we are lucky maybe Biden will make a comment about it, that would be awesome! Hmm what got nothing to say about this one Rev Jesse, or are you still having your foot surgically removed from your last embarassment.
Lynette,
There is a $100,000 reward for filmed evidence of racist remarks at a Tea party event.
It is unclaimed.
Why do you suppose that is?
Hey haters this racist government employee was describing an incident that took place in 1986. I doubt she was given her job by President Obama twenty something years before he took office. Try to keep your hatred in check.
if this was said about a black farmer and got out... I can see it now... Rev. Al and Jessie would be carrying banners, preaching from a podium, demanding that farmer get what he came for and so on.Those two allegedly stand up against racism. Well, just because a white guy got screwed by a black woman, who admittedly didnt do as much as she could for him, because he was white... is this not racism as well.
Hey AL, Hey Jessie.... where do YOU stand on this issue? What a couple of hypocrites those two are.
Maybe it's time for the creation of the National Association For The Advancement of White People, huh?
ScoMata
Well this is real from Yale. Why do you read if you can. If it doesn't make you sick and ashame. I think you should be the Leader of the TEA PARTY.
BUT, don't cheat read it ALL!
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Why should someone feel "sick and ashamed" over something they had absolutely nothing to do with? Faulty logic and epic fail at trying to whip up guilt where there should be none.
Wilberta Berry,
I have nothing to do with the Tea Party or the Republican Party. Simply stating a fact.
I happen to be an Italian American working for a Democrat Governor in the executive branch of a state government.
You can take your condecending and insulting remarks and, well, you know the rest.
P.S. Insulting my reading capabilities in a post that has more grammatical errors than a quote from Bart Simpson does not carry much weight with me.
I looked and looked and just couldn't find the "RASCIST!"s denunciation by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Guess they hadn't seen the video yet. White farmer/black farmer....focus should be on "farmer".
Wilberta Berry - The article you posted (2.46) has nothing to do with this article, and in fact justifies what I said in my first post. Your article covers a period ENDING in 1950, that is 60 YEARS AGO! Much has changed since then. Bringing this article up, especially if you are a member of the NAACP, shows how you are part of the problem and not the solution. How about something from the here and now? (Oh wait, it will be examples of black on white racism, guess that won't help you, will it?)
cmon-864012
"govhater, own up, your comments are just more of the same finger pointing that has politics in gridlock, nobody does anything but cry about the other side."
Uh... did you see me pointing any fingers? Noooooo... I was only POINTING out the finger pointing that your republick'on counterpart was doing. So why don't YOU own up and actually read a post before running to cover each others backsides ok?
natedom
"The ASVAB is the Armed Services Vocatioanl Aptitude Battery, it is an aptitude test to determine what you are the most proficient in, it is not a pass/fail test. If you are going to critique someone on their spelling and language, and then insult their intelligence, the least you could is prove your own intelligence by knowing what you are talking about."
Yeah, as an 8-year Navy SeaBee I KNOW what the ASVAB is, and you should know that by any general indication term the word "pass" means to do well enough to be accepted. If you do not "pass" your ASVAB, your are not allowed to join. So much for proving YOUR intelligence lol!
Did any of you nitwits view the ENTIRE video.
BigGovernment.com is ran by the same lunatic right-wingers who gave us fake, slice-and-diced, voice overs, video clips of ACORN "supposedly" aiding in the sex trade industry.
And it most certainly should have seen the light of day but not by any conservative but by the NAACP itself who should've been the FIRST to take action and reacted to her intolerable behavior rather than proacted to being exposed.
Racism is alive and well in the Obama White House. So much for his "post-racial" society! A true shame.
But at least he can get an unemployment check... oh, wait, he was self-employed so he's not covered! Only 28 months until President Obama is unemployed too! :)
It’s interesting that MSNBC even posted this story. I think if it wasn’t for the furor directed at them for purposefully ignoring/omitting that Black Panther voter intimidation story they would most likely have ignored this story as well.
All bigots and racists are suffering from inferiority complexes. Therefor, anyone would appear to be acting superior to them. Such is the payment for your sins (skewed outlook on life). What goes around comes around. I surely hope she is charged and convicted for her criminal behavior.
nutgrape, you are correct, the incident in question did happen 24 years ago. and the lady did continue her story to say that she got over her racism and helped the white farmer. but between her racist admission and the heroric ending of her story, the naacp members in the audience seemed to approve her past racist behaviour overwhelmingly and without shame. maybe they should be fired too. cannons anyone?
peace
aunty
"There is a $100,000 reward for filmed evidence of racist remarks at a Tea party event. It is unclaimed. Why do you suppose that is?"
Just a shot in the dark here, but I'm guessing it's unclaimed because no one has yet produced any film evidence of racist remarks at a tea party event.
Did I guess right?
The reality is that no organization, the NAACP or otherwise, will bring negative media attention to themselves. That her comments were made at an event hosted by the NAACP would have had negative implications on the organization if the NAACP berated her for comments she made at one of there very own events, but that does not mean they are not in agreement. Her comments were distasteful because particuarly as NAACP president noted, she did not indicate she did anything to rectify the wrong she had done to the farmer, although she shared her story as a learning experience. The NAACP acted appropiately in my opinion. It's a national organization; this event took place in Georgia. Though, some NAACP representatives may have responded inappropiately to her comments, I doubt they represent the organization as a whole as the NAACP president indicates.
The important thing is that when it came to the media's attention they made it clear that they did not agree with her actions. If you can name an organization that would bring negative media attention to themselves by saying hey, we invited this person to speak at our event, and she said some distasteful and racist things, please list them for me. This concept isn't novel.
As to other comments about the NAACP blasting other organizations for their mistakes, duh! Do you ever hear Democrats saying, yeah, we screwed up, we're sorry until the Republicans force them to admit it and vice versa. It's called damage control, and in this case, they did it well.
They should've fired that despicible woman. People like that need the carpet calling wherever they crop up. NAACP needs to live by it's own organization's reason d'etre.
What I would like to know is where is the ACLU (American Civil Leftist Union) in all this to help the farmer? Oh, that's right, the farmer is white! Oops, sorry, can't help you!
Oh please! All we know is that she said these words in front of people. Breitbart has an agenda and he is no respecter of fact and truth.
The upshot of the matter is, the NAACP has condemened this behavior and they have pledged to address it. This is far more than the Tea baggers have done in the face of far less condemnation. The orginal resolution called for Tea Baggers to 'repudiate the racist elements it has attracted". This does not call all tea baggers racist (no it does not!).
You clearly have a point you wish to make whether the story/facts support it or not.
You are the perfect companion for the huckster Breitbart. At least this video may not be a deliberate distortion.
i'm sorry, willowbrook, 60 years is not that long ago in the collective thoughts of a people--a nation. my granny's 75--this stuff happened within living peoples' lifetimes.
there's a ripple effect to the shocks of those times.
and now that it's known that the clip wasn't shown in its full entirety...who's baiting now? frankly, i'm glad these discussions are reaching the forefront. barack obama really put the racial feelings out on display.
Love that bit. The "not my fault, it is the Conservatives fault for my racism."
natedom - You state the ASVAB isnt a pass/fail test which is true but you are aware that you must have pass a minimum score to qualify for the armed forces. That minimum score gets you into the armed forces but getting the career field you want is based on how well you did on the asvab due to the fact that every career filed has minimum score to qualified.
As a former recruiter see young people every day who can't pass the ASVAB but have a hs diploma; no surprise there.
This is not an isolated instance, but is typical of the black administrators that Obama has put into his administration. One of the worse, if not the worst racist, is Eric Holder. The AG of the U.S. who has told his employees to not prosecute black on white civil rights cases. I know this for a fact as the source is a current DOJ CR attorney and not Mr. Adams who resigned from the DOJ over this "guideline." And no, I will not disclose his or her identity.
It was 24 years ago. Can anyone of you criticizing her tell me you have not done something racist in the pass 24 years. I understand what she was getting at and I think most of you do too. What we don't need are the clear lines of hatred.
shaunb - Those folks who can still remember these times are not the ones making stupid political statements or condemning the Tea Party. Maybe your Granny should make it known how much things have changed since 1950.
chucky1169469
What did Obama have to do with this?
July 25th Pigford VS Vilsack, she and her group were awarded 13 Million 5 days later she was appointed by Obama.
Racism from ANYONE should not be tolerated. I just wish everyone would TRY to get along and live in peace.
You sure don't know a lot of what you like to think you do. The ASVAB test is strictly used to "place" you into categories of jobs that you might be suited for. as an Example If I had a 77 in Mechanical and a 45 in Administration you would think I'd be more suited for one of the Mechanical fields. I chose a profession in one of my lower scores... they didn't and don't use it as a pass/fail. I have seen scores in the teens and they were allowed to join. So please don't try and impress us with "your" intelligence again. 20 year, retired AF ...
that's because her "remarks" aren't actually what the video shows. the comments which are being shown are the lead-in to a bigger story about how she herself learned to put race aside.
all you people jumping on her haven't even heard the full story.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/usdas-shirley-sherrod-disputes-clip-of-racist-naacp-banquet-comments/
buncha idiots.
24 years ago, the best shot that farmer would have had of getting help was not with a black woman on his case, but with a white man in Georgia.
So give it a rest. A bunch of rubbish on both sides. It was taken out of context, it was 24 years ago, and it doesn't matter.
Lots of things have happened in the past. Who cares? It's not like black farmers have never been left twisting in the wind. It doesn't appear that she did that anyway - if the farmer has any beef it is with the white guy who took over his case.
Our race problems here in the USA are so hard to stomach. We have some people saying it doesn't exist, we have some people who manipulate it for their own benefit, we have people who push hate into the mix, people that stand by and watch, and then we have those who try to help no matter the cost. White or Black there evil people in both groups. Granted White people started it, but we are in the aftermath and we have to solve this.
Although this is such a Utopian ideal, please people the internet is being used again for terrible reasons. Racism without a face. Is this not terrorism?
Who cares about this woman? She is just another bigot who came into the limelight. She is gone and still nothing is fixed.
Lets go back to the peaceful Christian way to deal with this. The ways of Martin Luther King Jr.
Just an observation made by a white 25 year old. I do not mean any disrespect. I am only trying to help. If anyone wants to email me, and continue this conversation. Please email me at CWillNet@gmail.com.
Please spread peace not hate. WWJD
It's amazing that she "resigned". Isn't that another word for FIRED.
How did this woman slip through the cracks?
The NAACP is a has been. They are the biggest racists of all. It was disgusting to listen to her yap about white farmers.
Some like her still have a "chip on their shoulder" because of the slavery days.
Nothing has changed in this country. Nothing, except for now Racism and anti-Semitism is rampant in this country and other European countries, including the Middle East.
Obama wanted to bring us together. We are all one--America is so divided, we are now part of the 1960's gendre. What a waste of time and lives. Racism has gotten worse because the Dems have incited it, i(ncluding few Conservatives) knowing they are in trouble, because O has not done his job. I saw the blame game again against the last Administration in one of his recent speeches. He is responsible now as our President. 2 years.
So, the final solution is for Racism to 'rear it's ugly head" again. This is unacceptable. No excuses for an incompetent job done in the WH; it would be refreshing to find something else to blame it on---our President treated as a Leader of the Free World and not a color.
Amazing how the NAACP is now backing this poor white farmer. Oh yeah, it is nearly time for mid-term elections, isn't it? No wonder...Here's a few questions for everyone: Why isn't there are a United Caucasian College Fund? Or an Oriental Entertainment Telelvision station like there is a Black Entertainment Television station? Or how about along with the Hispanic Channel we get one specifically for the Irish, Italian, and Russians? Seems funny how we segregate ethnic groups into superiority while being condescending in our actions, (and almost ostracizing, nonblatantly), the caucasions.
Being a fed govt employee she still gets her $100,000 pension.
A billion people's opinion:
Watch out for these special groups who tout their pure beliefs and accusations. They are hiding under wolves clothing, because they are the ones who are the exact people who they are against.
Shirley S. has now said it is a "misunderstanding". That's the apology these days. On tape, she is loud and clear. Hatred for White people.
She now is complaining the WH was behind her. She's trying to bring the White House down in retaliation.
@Jim something or another and anyone else referencin the Obama administration.
Her job has nothing to do with the Obama adminsitration and her comments do not prove she was not the best person for the job. Her comments prove that she used poor judgment in responding to someone she felt was trying to "act superior" to her. Note that her discriminatory actions took place 24 years ago before she ever held the USDA position. She just recently shared them to convey a point an NAACP event in Douglas, GA. Her actions wer taken while she was working directly for the State of Georgia and are obviously just becoming known to anyone. However distasteful her comments, She was more than qualified for the position for which she now rightfully resigned from. She was appointed as the USDA Rural Development Georgia State Director in July of 09 after working with Federation of Southern Cooperatives/Land Assistance Fund as the organization's Director of the Georgia State Office since 1985. This is where she worked when she made discriminated against the farmer. This organization worked directly with the USDA to secure funds for Georgia farmers so she was more than experienced in this area, and well-qualified for the USDA position. Being that Georgia, is a predominantly White Republican state, I am sure that she does not have a history of discriminating against other races in her job less it would have come to the forefront by now. I don't even think she's racist as a general rule because her comments indicate she reacted this way because the farmer tried to act "superior" to her not simply because he was White. I wonder how she would have reacted to a farmer of her same race acting superior by being condescending or what have you, but we will never know now, and if she has reacted the same way to someone of her own race who was trying to "act superior" to her, it would have been irrelevant to mention at an NAACP event. Her behavior was wholly unacceptable because when you are working in the public sector you have to deal with all types of personalties, races, etc. and you may get someone who you feel is unpleasant, but it's not your place to choose how to allocate government resources because someone offended you.
The idea that Obama is to blame for this is ignorant and shows that many of you are ill-informed and perhaps racist yourself. Let's blame the Black president for the Black woman's behavior 24 years ago. That makes sense. Is it difficult to belive that a Black woman was qualified for the position by virtue of educational background and career experiences and not that Obama called Georgia (because he has time to be concerned about who's the of Director in one of the 50 states of a SubDepartment of one of the many Departments in his administration) and requested she be appointed. She was actually appointed by a White man who made a big deal about her being the first Black woman to hold this position and who commended her for her effectiveness in securing federal funding for Georgia farmes since 1985. I am sure she is now a big disappointment to him and she's one to me as well. I hope that her example is lesson to everyone that when working in public service, place your personal sentiments aside, particularly when they're bigoted as in this case, but please readers don't show your true colors and sentiments by blaming Obama for a nearly quarter of a century old incident that is just coming to light.
What happened was a long time ago. I would not hold a mistake against her for something that old. Everyone states something or does something sometime in their life that they wish they could retract. I wish she would have stayed on and faced the public with her head held high. I don't know her personally but suspect she is doing a fine job. With maturity she most likely teaches others to not make the same mistakes of her past and now leads by example. I wish her the best of luck in any future endeavors.
I am confused about something: Wasn't this racist woman speaking at an naacp meeting? If so, then why are the liberals saying the naacp knew nothing about it until Fox News aired the tape?
You forgot Ms. White America....we have Ms. Black America.......then of course we do have Ms. America which a black won.....Lordy,Lordy...it gets so confusing!!!!!
Wow, I get 100 votes, then I go straight to being deleted. Which way is it? Must of touched a nerve. Embarassed/angered about the truth being exposed? I'm thinking so.....
Didn't you know that EVERYTHING wrong is the world today is OBAMA's FAULT? I mean, it's not like he came into a bad economic situation with a deficit out of this world. I mean, Bush left this country in perfectly grand condition and here goes this BLACKMAN and destroys it all.
Not everything in the world that is wrong is Obama's fault, but it's about time he and his supporters owned up to the increasing amount of problems that ARE his fault. What Obama has done is akin to amputating a broken leg. No reasonable person is questioning that the leg was broken, and that it was broken before Obama showed up. The question is whether the extreme course of actions he has chosen to take are the ones he should have. Many of us say "No" - and it has nothing to do with what color his skin is.
It's a master stroke to put up a person of obvious ethnicity to be a figurehead in the ramming through of sweeping, unpopular changes, because those on the left who are already inclined to do so can claim that everyone who protests is doing so on "racist" grounds. Unlike liberals (and a significant percentage of the people I know personally who voted for him to begin with), the vast majority of us who wish Obama never happened don't give a flying flip about his skin color.
If a person of color told you to jump off a cliff, and you said, "That's a stupid idea," are you a racist for thinking it's a stupid idea? No.
We shall wait and see how this story re: Shirley S evolves. Now they say the WH did have something to do with a lot of what happened? Who going to be the Scapegoat for this scandal.
There is going to be more out about Rev. Wrights incidinary remarks in recent book, including Obama's campaign while he was running for President.
More stories unraveling. It's the wait and see, how this is spinned.
OH! You mean like the NAACP! I get it.
Interesting that the comments not condemning this woman and/or Obma and/or the NAACP are the only ones not getting collapsed by the community. And you cry censorship the rest of the time.
Also interesting... the white farmer's wife corroborates Sherrod's story and calls her a "friend for life".
But why bother thinking first when you can just react... or in this case and many others, over-react?
This is why Government should not be involve in “health-care”, “Student loans”, “Banking” Because you get people like Shirley Sherrod, and screw your life up
Black America for the most part thinks racism is a one way street. They were taught by their "leaders" that because they are a minority only the institutionalized majority is capable of racism. Many bought into that along with the victimization and entitlement mentality that is so pervasive in the black communinty. They have been conditioned to be Democrats and to believe that the government exists solely to provide them with everything they cannot provide for themselves. With the election of the first bi-racial president, who never aligns himself with his white roots, only his balck heritage, everything is viewed through the prsim of race and racism. For one who ran as the great "uniter"He is the most divisive president in history and we as a nation and a people are the most polarized we have been since the 1960s.
People here need to look in the mirror, and "do unto others" before they all come screaming to verbally lynch "the others".
If people cannot look honestly into their souls and see that they are not perfect, that they cannot HONESTLY scream out "I don't have a racist bone in my body, never had, never will ... all the problems in my life are caused by THOSE PEOPLE" , then we just have to wait it out until the haters all die out, or destroy the world.
Evolve or die.
Check out the entire story before you "go git yur guns". Geez. And relax ... and maybe pray?
If there's a racist organization in this country it is the NAACP!
don't you know by now that only white people can be racists. this is clearly just another example of the white man trying to hold the black man....i mean african americans.......down.
it was on Huffington before Fox.
Too bad this couldn't have been spun fast enough so that the feds and media could say that Shirley Sherrod "mis-spoke." Thanks, Shirley, for further exposing and reinforcing what most people already know --- blacks can be VERY racist.
Tony Amodeo
Come on now Tony! Let's not forget La Raza!
I just wonder why she ever thought that race played into her position in the first place.
So are you saying that "conservative news outlets and commentators" made sure that this saw the light of day because she was BLACK?
Wow... imagine that... racists, complaining about racism...
Nothing new here..
It reminds me of a politition, calling another politition a liar, just to say it is OK if he lies, because they do it too!
"Republican Values" on display
Corey PA
The white people started it? Started what? Slavery? Racism? What?
Slavery was going on over 400 years ago in Africa. They enslaved their own kind. So don't tell us that the "white people" started it.
I hope there is a place in the History Books for Shirley Sherrod right next to Obama.
She will be the first Black person to lose her job for being racist.
Give me a break on the farmer!!! I'm sure he was condesending as any good republican farmer would be, imagine, having to humble yourself before a black woman!!!...he wasn't worried about saving his farm he was worried about loosing his hundred's of thousand dollar bailout that he gets EVERY year from the government.
When will the good people start looking at the farming handouts and say enuf is enuf...How many honest working people get 50,000 to 100,000 dollars a year not to work!!!! I'm sure she saw right thru him, and you would have done what she did also!!!!
The food we purchase does not come from the American Farmer!! American farmers sell overseas where they get a better price! The American Farmer does not feed Americans....
zaphod - you are not as clever as you apparently think you are. Because I don't believe I EVER said that. The point is that apparently it's OK for NAACP members to be racist at the same time that they are screaming "racism" at Tea Party members. It's called being hypocritical, if that's not too large a word for you to understand.
What a callused moron to be boasting of such a thing is unbelievable. I guess she knew her audience.
So this is a story because we have a very rare instance where a black person hinders a white person. Amazing...Now I will just sit an wait for the news story when a black or hispanic cop profiles an harasses a white person with out just cause. And hopefully we will have the same outrage. Maybe if i wait long enough we will hear a news story of how hard it is for a white person to get a job in black corporate America. Assuming that its only a matter of time before corporate America will be taken over by black people and the blacks in charge will systematically deny access to white people as how it was done in reverse.
Hate is hate people. but put please put some perspective behind it.
Kind of like if a women hits a man and that man hits back. Both actions comletely wrong but the effects are normally much greater for that women. Like the effects of racism compared to reverse racism. Oh yea your not a man if you have to hit a women.
this is aperfect example of how african american officls, like jesse jackon and al sharpton, scream racism around every corner. When the duke lacross team was tried for raping the black girl, they were out for blood. when everyone found out the girl was lying and the case was dismissed you never heard a word from jesse or al saying the coments they made were wrong. black people are just as, or even more racist than whites.
Racism is a big business. There is a lot of money to be made and the sheeple go right along with it.
Yes, I am aware that you have to have a minimum score in order to be accepted into the service, I am also aware that the ASVAB is a multiple choice test, therefore the belief that one would need to spell in order to pass is irrelevant. Of course, that person may have failed the spelling portion but that would not result in a score too low to be accepted.
I am sure you have seen many people that have "failed" the ASVAB that have received a high school diploma, just like there are many people that have excelled on the ASVAB and not received a high school diploma. Certainly not everyone that has scored well on the ASVAB's have gone on to join the service.
Interesting that she had to resign; she admitted she had not done enough; and the farmer in question states that she helped them save their farm and consider her a friend for life. What a shameful job she must have done! Not! She was harder on herself than anyone and had to resign because in her estimation she could have done more. She saved their farm so she must have done pretty well. But, those of you who want a reason to hate won't find that enough.
WHAT DO NON-WHITE RACISTS, LIBERALS AND THE NAACP HAVE IN COMMON???????????????
DENIAL!
These last few months have been testaments to the obvious bias and racism in the Non-White communities. Yet our government seems to be happy to just be selective in their approaching them as issues. Our Justice Department is obviously so racist it smells. You can never find ANY consistency in this administration. No one has a clue what the other person or agency is saying or doing. But they sure do know how to blame, campaign, party and throw out the race card whenever their backs are against the wall. The onlu success story so far in the Obama presidency is that he has managed to polarize our nation more than any time since the Civil War. Hope and Change are rapidly turning into Ropes and Chains.
Blacks, Hispanics, and any other ethnic group have been exposed over and over for their outright and uncontrolled bias and racism. The Cambridge Police incident was handled "stupidly"! The demonstrations against SB1070 in Arizona were filled with mobs throwing bottles and screaming racial slurs. The New Black Panther party, regardless of its size, showed its racist hand in intimidating innocent voters. Eric Holder easily claimed Americans being cowards for not addressing the racial issues yet he does NOTHING when confronted with these cases of overt racism. This must be corrected if we have any chance of our nation digging out from the other mass of problems we have.
Liberals for all their rhetoric about being for the "little guy" and the minorities have failed miserably for decades in improving their quality of life. The greates hoax of all is so obvious with the Liberal Progressive statement, "Hello, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you". Hundreds of Billions of dollars have been spent by our incompetent government fighting the Wars on Poverty, Crime and Illiteracy and NOTHING has significantly improved over 46 years since the Civil Rights movement. The Liberal Progressive's ridiculous notion that just because we may all want these things to happen for minorities and others it will happen. The affected must want it to happen. The affected must start to show their desire for improvements in their communities, schools and homes for it to work. No amount of money or Hope or Change will do a thing until those affected assume a level of responsibility. Maintaining whole generations in the welfare state with food stamps, subsidized housing and false hopes is NOT the solution.
The NAACP has become a shell of what it was intended to be. Its leadership is out of touch and out of control in what their purpose is. The repeated and absurd abuse of racism for any problem will never accomplish anything for colored people. Beside Hundreds of Billions of dollars and opportunities for equality they have been negligent in making any advances for decades. Their talking heads Jackson, Sharpton and others have been opportunists for their own gain and position and have done nothing for their communities. The latest NAACP resolution against the Tea Party was without merit or proof yet when one of their own is forced to resign because of racial statements about "white farmers" the NAACP mouth has suddenly become mute.
This can be expressed for many more pages on the hypocracy and denial. The fact is, many see right through these sham organizations and people. They decry racism but use it at every opportunity, right or wrong, for their benefit. It's time to be honest, these groups have to admit their racism and biases if they want to be considered valid.
Daisy, absolutely NOTHING you posted is true. Nothing. You need to educate yourself because you apparantly have no clue at all how agriculture works.
Rare? It is a greater possibility than you realize. When I worked in one office a few years back, my studio heard our African American Boss say get off the phone and loudly say "We'll make the white men pay!" I was uneasy for a few days, until I found out later his wife who was an attorney was running wanting to run for a certain Judgeship that interested her. She was told "you can run for the position, but we won't support you, we will support you if you run for this other judgeship though." It wasn't necessarily racism, but rather a seniority issue or political payoff for time served.
No one should use race as a reason for any action, especially retribution. The victims of that rage, may not be guilty.
How typical of the right wing, so-called "christians" to overlook the fact that she was relaying a story of something that she was admitting that she had done wrong (24 years ago, no less) and that it taught her a lesson and changed the way she thought. So much for those "christian" values of forgiveness and redemption. Of course what would you expect from the same people who continued to call Senator Byrd a member of the KKK decades after he renounced the group and became an advocate for the rights of people of all colors? Guess "forgiveness" only applies if you are a republican.
Nutgrape post 2.39, get your facts straight, will you? The charges against these black panthers were brought under the Bush administration in January 2009 but they were dropped on May 15, 2009 by Obama’s justice department. U.S. Commission on Civil Rights sent a letter to the Justice department demanding an explanation but they were ignored and continue to be ignored to this day.
Could someone please explain to me why it is that one or two racists (not in the leadership ranks), or even a handful for that matter, at a tea party rally of thousands and that makes the entire group racist, but a pastor leading an entire church filled with the willing that have come to listen does not allow for those filling the church to be labeled as racist? Even those of his parish know what he will be saying based on previous lectures, say 20 years worth of lectures?
To go to a KKK rally willingly makes you racist, to have a KKK member show up at your rally does not make you, or the rally, racist.
Why doesnt this apply across the board, only to select groups?
the fact of the matter is that sherrod did help the white farmer save his farm in spite of himself. he didn't want help from a black woman. she could have just gone away and left him empty handed. instead she referred him to a white attorney with whom the farmer would be more racially comfortable.she laments that she could have have done so much more for the white bigoted farmer. but he preferred paying a white person like himself than receive free assistance from a black woman. and it wasn't that unusual in parts of the south that needy white folks would refuse help from a black person. the movie in the heat of the night dramatizes this point.so who gives a rat's a##what she rhetorically said twenty four years later.except maybe for white tea baggers with a gotcha complex.the white farmer didn't want a black female helping him even after the passage of the 1964 civil rights act. and a few years before this incident it's doubtfull the white farmer would have even allowed a black person on his farm. and years before that he would have sicked his dogs on her. and a years before that she would have been picking cotton for the farmer. sherrod didn't unfairly discriminate against the white farmer; it was he who chose to pay for his bigotry, believing a black woman wasn't good enough to help him for free..
Wow Mike, with all of that reading you were able to do between the lines I am surprised the video did not go longer. You make a LOT of inferences and assumptions that allow this woman to be nothing more than a racist.
and I never SAID that you did say that, I asked a question... Did you answer it? no... AMAZING!
and my point, which seems to have flown right over your diminutive head, was that if she wasn't BLACK, those same "conservative news outlets and commentators" you Harald, would not have found this as a story of interest!
Note how they completely IGNORE the wording of what was said by the NAACP about some racist elements being tolerated within the tea party, and jump to defending themselves, by pointing at other racism..
Which very eloquently proves my point!
Thanks for playing!
Maybe, maybe not, but you just proved I'm ahead of you, which may not be saying much... ROTFLMAO!
Now, wait a minute. This was 24 years ago? I don't get it. What did she do. Make light of that incident and tell it as an amusing anecdote? If she was trying to pander to black leaders and blacks seen as powerful for black citizens, then she was right to step down, and is right to be called a racist. But if she is being held accountable for actions 24 years ago, this is just plain stupid. And if "the White House", IOW Obama called for her resignation, the hypocrites need to resign theirselves for punishing Honduras by withdrawing military aid and condemning their removal of the would-be dictator Zelaya from office. What is that? Discrimination in favor of policticians and dicatators?
Racism is a scourge in this country, and is the last refuge of the lowlifes and ignorant...well, maybe not the last. There's still politics. And Lawyers. We need to be more aware of the far-reaching consequences of our decisions, and at the same time, be more forgiving. Sometimes we make mountains out of molehills and sometimes we minimize the obviously large and dangerous. The human animal is capable of so much good. Too bad so many spend all their time vying for position, that they render theirselves incapable of being effective.
If anyone would have listened to the actual remarks, you would see she did go on to explain that those were her former feelings and she came to the conclusion the situation was not about race, but about being poor and powerless.
MCCARTHYISM is alive and well and our White House caves on too many GOP non-issues.
If she had been white and a member of the Bush Administration and said the exact same thing about a black farm: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and a lot of libs would have called for her firing and then there would have been calls for a demonstration and a lot of other crap...she made a racist comment, and in with her position in the government her resignation (also known as " You're Fired") was the only logical choice,,be careful about how you justify racism there miss niteowlett...
It is absolutely amazing how many people on the left are trying to defend a blatantly racist speech by this woman. Had this been a white speaker making the very same kinds of statements she was making they would be linking him to the tea party toot sweet. But since it is a liberal with ties to Obama she has the apologists coming out of the woodwork trying to spray Lysol on the pile of @!$%# before someone smells it.
knuckledragger, you've got to get out of your cage once in a while to fully research a story. more than one newspaper in the south has aready apologized for limiting its facticity of the story to the video.actually i'm not reading between the lines.i'm merely paraphrasing what several media reporters are now saying after interviewing ms sherrod.however,in my closing lines i do read between the lines. it comes from my marine corps days in the south where i observed the shabby way knuckledraggers treated all black americans. i apologize if the shoe fits. eat another banana and chill out!
bill,
LISTEN to her complete remarks and get back to me re: the blantant racism.
Mike,
From my days in the Marine Corps we were taught to put your money where your mouth is, cite your sources or shut the @!$%# up! I have seen racism from blacks, whites, asians, and so on and so on also, should I allow that to taint how I view the story? I have seen blacks beat up whites because they were just that, white. Should I use my personal experiences to "read between the lines" with how I have seen whites treated by blacks? Guess what, they call that bigotry. And yes Mike, you can be a bigot against your own race.
And it is quite odd how they interviewed Ms Sherrod to allow her to refute the story when they have a white person charged with racism they have them accused/tried/executed on the evening news before they even get to the weather or sports.
"eat another banana and chill out", no wonder Marines are thought of as idiots!
First of all, Newsvine need serious help when posting articles. SHE SAVED THE WHITE MAN'S FARM.
I am a white person.
I heard the whole story from HER MOUTH (Ms. Sherrod) this morning on CNN.
Before she spoke, I watched THE PARTIAL VIDEO. I was peeved. I hit the roof.
Then I heard her story. She used this story in her speech so she could share with other black people about how SHE LEARNED TO STOP BEING A RACIST.
In fact, after listening to her, I cried because I knew that she did learn something. As she put it - "I learned it is not about race.... It is about those that have and those who do not have." There is no doubt in my mind that this was her personal watershed moment when she realized that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
I think it was very courageous of her to share her story with black people, ALL OF WHOM WERE NODDING IN AGREEMENT AT THE NOT WANTING TO HELP WHITE PEOPLE PART OF HER SPEECH. I hope those people actually learned something too.
At the end of the day, she saved this white man's farm. His farm had been put into foreclosure ILLEGALLY and his first lawyer was a waste. It was BECAUSE OF SHERROD THAT HE SAVED HIS FARM.
I am furious (again) with President Obama because his administration called her four times this week to resign.
I completely support this woman and I want her to get her job back. This is freaking ridiculous.
Yeah, right.
When a white person makes racist remarks it's "Off with their head!"
When a black person makes racist remarks it's always "misconstrued" or "taken out of context."
And as per usual the libs defend her racism.
What Bull Shlt!
Let me get this straight... for the record..conservative news outlets and commentators point at a racist BLACK woman, who is not the NAACP, because she is... BLACK, and RACIST, to prove that the NAACP is racist...
They all BLACK, so the actions of one BLACK defines all BLACKS as racist, which PROVES that the NAACP is RACIST, because they too, are all BLACK!
Do I understand the reasoning there?
All this to defend other WHITE people from charges that SOME of them are tolerating racism from SOME in their party.
Note how they didn't argue that some were not racist, or that some were not tolerating racism, but how their argument was "HYPOCRITE" look this BLACK woman is RACIST!
WOW.. amazing...
The White Farmer in this story with his wife is on CNN thanking her for the help she gave them in saving their farm.
Zaphod, With your ability to twist things, you really should consider getting a job in a pretzel factory ! I am sure you would be a high achiever in no time and your TWISTED pretzels would be delicious.
Face the simple fact.......a black woman was caught on tape making remarks which showed racial bias. The only thing amazing is that it took over three months to get widespread attention.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/20/agriculture.employee.naacp/index.html?hpt=C1
Now why is this news?
ROTFLMAO!!!! and now you know, the rest of the story! [sorry Paul Harvey]
conservative news outlets and commentators
He claims while failing to show how anything I've said is wrong or innacurate in anyway!
OH RLY? ROTFLMAO... 3 months? it happened over 26 years ago... read up!
LMFAO!
Liberals!! So since the white farmer likes this racist then everything is ok?!?!?!?!
I once knew the KKK grand wizard of Kentucky. He was a top manager at a company that hired over 5,000 people. This company was a client of mine. He had probably 25 college-educated blacks under him. So I guess he wasn't a racist since some of these blacks used to joke around with him?
Liberals! God love em!
I wonder if guilty by association applies to Republicans like they try to make it apply to others...
If it does, that would make you a racist too.... right?
So if you cannot show how ANYTHING I've said is wrong, or even inaccurate, wouldn't that make YOU the one that is all twisted?
Ironically delicious indeed!
Zap:
"I wonder if guilty by association applies to Republicans like they try to make it apply to others... If it does, that would make you a racist too.... right?"
Huh? The KKK guys was a democrat. And I did not associate with him other than he worked for a company I did business with. I bet you feel foolish now, eh Slappy?
Liberals! God love em!!
Incident: 1980s.
Actual speech: March, 2010. That is the part receiving attention since it's what brought the whole matter to national attention.
Read up, indeed.
yea, but the farmers wife had some things to say about this.
She credits Sherrod with helping her family save their farm. Eloise Spooner remembered Sherrod as "getting in there and doing all she could do to help us."
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/20/agriculture.employee.naacp/index.html?hpt=C1
Hey, teabaggers, read and learn:
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/07/20/shirley_sherrod_breitbart/index.html
This is how the world works (all races)... this is not unique to the NAACP ... most people are not sorry until they get caught. Most people don't try to right a wrong until its in their best interest.
knuckledragger, i don't believe you served in the corps. guys with your intemperate gab would have been quickly drummed out out during boot camp. moreover , i don't believe you even served in the military period. as i reflect on my original post, i got my comments wrong about the white farmer. like you knucklehead i knee jerked to an incomplete account of the real story. karen in los angeles and rhazes got it right. i just finished listening on cnn to the white farmer's wife praise ms sherrod for saving the farm. the wife responded to the video saying that perhaps sherrod could have done more as she says to the naacp. but she did enough to save the farm and that's all the farmer and his wife wanted. the farmer and his wife have maintained a respectful and friendly relationship with ms. sherrod over the years. and despite these facts teabaggers like you are still trying to turn a situation of a black person helping struggling white people into a racist story.
This woman's resignation is a travesty that demonstrates just how incompetent the Obama Administration, the NAACP, and their ilk really are. First, this happened some 24 years ago. That's 24 years ago!!! You've got folks posting here who are not yet 24. Add to that the woman wasn't even working for the USDA at the time. Are you effing kidding me??? Second, when the woman's comments are viewed in their entire context, there is absolutely nothing offensive or racist in the woman's address. If anything, Obama, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, and USDA deputy undersecretary Cheryl Cook should all be fired for being incompetent and not getting all the facts first before jumping the gun. Clearly, the woman is a professional who gets great results even when not giving it her all. That is whole lot more than can be said about Obama and this economy. The US government doesn't deserve the services of Sherrod. And lets disband the NAACP while we're at.
This the last straw, Obama has got to go!
Let's demand the resignation of everyone who smoked pot 24 years ago. I'll bet you'll find Obama, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, and USDA deputy undersecretary Cheryl Cook all in that group.
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Several comments restored - not this one, though:
GovHater, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
And many more EXCEPT for you I guess?...........Oh you didn't inhale...........that counts
I am white 70 year old male. It was wrong for the USDA to ask for her resignation. She only told about a time when she did something wrong because of a persons race 24 years ago. It was 24 years ago. She however did help the man and his farm was saved. You can't fault someone regardless of their thinking at that time when people today are still thinking the same way.
These remarks were made to the NAACP back in March. The NAACP only did something after BigGovernment.com and Fox got their hands on the tape. Guess it isn't rascism until someone outside your group discovers it. Afterall, it only took 4 months to decide it was rascism. The NAACP should have made the call to the White House or DOA secretary the next day. The White House did not force her to resign until they found out Fox News had the tape. Guess it is only rascism when someone finds out about. NAACP, clean your own house before you make charges about others.
Her comments were made at an NAACP event. The NAACP is a huge national organization. Because she speaks at a local event doen't mean the organization as a whole knows anything about what was stated during the course of that event.
I am a caucasian male, and I find the amount of white people who actaully truly believe they are being discriminated against absolutely ridiculous. We have it so hard, let me tell you.
Discrimination in any form should not be tolerated, but please don't pretend this is in any way comparable to the last few centuries of injustices forced upon minority races and the female half of the species.
The NAACP response was appropriate and more than enough for the situation, and when her comments are taken in context with her story I don't feel she should have had to resign her position.
When you can't vote because you're white, then you can talk about discrimination. When you can't use a water fountain, or a restroom, or a cafe, or a bus seat; when someone follows you around a store the entire time you're shopping just because you're white, then you can complain about discrimination.
Otherwise, all your griping about is a few moderately racist comments made by select individuals and that is in no way comparable to a mass, organized, system of discrimination.
I grew up in the South and was exposed to plenty of old-fashioned racism. My family taught me it was wrong, but alot of people like to pretend it doesn't exist. And as long as they can pretend it doesn't exist it's easy to get worked up about these injustices against the white man. But if you take these instances in context with reality and history, then one can hardly fault a minority race or caucasian woman for a latent resentment towards their past oppressors.
Maybe you didn't personally oppress them, but if you can take comments as harmless as these and blow them up into a discussion of the injustices suffered by the white man, how would you feel after suffering true system-wide discrimination for a huge chunk of the history of this country?
Everyone here could sure use a lesson in empathy. Maybe then there wouldn't be such hatred spewed forth over such a minor situation as this.
And if I recall correctly, everyone gave Rand Paul ample time to give his side of the story. So, there you have an example of a white man allowed to defend what some people considered racism.
So, to summarize:
1. Discrimination is wrong.
2. White people who feel greatly wronged by simple comments don't know what true discrimination really is.
3. While that does not make said discrimination less wrong, it doesn't give you license to moan of the white man's burden.
None of you paid any attention to the story except for the part that you needed to condemn this woman and I will post them for you since you could not use them in your rant.
First the wife of the man involved says this.
Second the woman was not a member of the USDA at the time but part of a small aid group. At that time in the south it was always better to have a white attorney. In retrospect these statements show you how much this actually mover her away from racisim....
So in fact she helped the man went out of her way to do so made two friends for life and had a change of heart on racism in the process. A remarkable story and now her life is ruined because a creep right wing tv station takes only what they need to run with the story to take a shot at the NAACP for having the uppity nerve to call out the racist tea party. Another day in the deceitful way the right s,ears everything from Obama down. All they had to do is read what she really said....
The huge number of idiots writing here about a situation that they know absolutely nothing about is amazing. This woman is a victim – not a racist. She was a victim when a white racist farmer killed her father; she was a victim when a white racist legal system let him go free; she was a victim when after overcoming her own racist fears to help a poor white farmer save his farm, and trying to use her story to teach others about overcoming their racist fears to work together, she was set upon by racist minded political hacks, had her words edited and misconstrued and broadcast to the world as a racist speech.
This woman deserved a public apology by the media, the people writing here, but most of all by the President of the United States of America. He should instruct the USDA to reinstate her with a promotion and apologize for the destruction of her character and livelihood by his idiotic Secretary. The USDA, NAACP, Tea Party Organization, Fox News and the other Media outlets need to broadcast a special apology to this lady. Thank God she has enough money now (she just received $13,000,000) that she can tell them all to go kiss her behind. The rise of the idiot class in America is indeed troubling.
It may be news to some of you but there are many instances of government sanctioned discrimination in America to day. This act was done when she worked for a non profit organization. There are many non profit organizations that are gender or racial in their origin which receive governmental support or sanction. There are organizations such as NOW and NAACP or that support only Hispanics or Latinos or Asians. There are also governmental organizations such as VA who are prejudicial in their membership. Until all forms of racism and gender issues are removed from organizations it will continue. It is great for the government to support the veterans because they have done something that a vast majority of American have not done. They have served their country and helped protect your right to be prejudiced or a racist or what ever you want to be. Does it make it right for you to be a racist or prejudiced? Not really, but you have that right. Come on people wake up this is 2010 and you are in America. It is really a shame that people want to identify themselves as African American or Hispanic or Latino or whatever, instead of saying I am an AMERICAN. It is good to remember your ancestry but to claim you are this or that instead of saying I am an AMERICAN is showing that you're racially prejudiced. If I were to do the same how would I have to describe myself. As a Scotch, Irish, Welsh, English, French, Dutch, German American. I am proud of all of my heritage, but first and foremost I am an AMERICAN. America truly needs to get over its self imposed prejudices and remember America is for all Americans not just this group or that group.
Put white color on this woman's face and black color on the farmer's face and what do you think the NAACP would do? My answer is, they would burn America and everyone who lives in it alive. But since this organization is a racist organization, they supported the black woman's racist remark. Dah! even a 2 year old can tell a racist when he/she sees one.
Your assignment for today is to read this article again from start to finish
This story has been proven to be a lie...Breitbart edited the video to change the meaning of her comments, the NAACP has rescinded their denouncement of this woman, and the white farmer who she supposedly was racist against has come out strongly and said it was all a lie and she helped keep them out of bankruptcy...it was all a lie!
Oop's spoke to quickly, now what will people say that the facts are out, see you can't put words back into your mouth once they leave your lips ...
And once again the fox news and the right wing nuts when after a innocent person because they hate to be told they are racist.
Racism is the key word for everyone who disagrees with the left, even when most of the time the subject has nothing to race.
gwen-482936
"And once again the fox news and the right wing nuts when after a innocent person because they hate to be told they are racist."
See what I mean? Name calling and accusations of racism from the left.
I am just gonna hope we all have learned that the first broadcast, printed story, commentary Just Maybe not be complete enough.
A very negative spin cast this lady as a racist until 4 hours ago. And, 24 years ago, maybe she was, but over her working career she has met many, many white folks in Georgia who she learned did not hate her because of her skin color.
Lesson learned for me to use in south Chicago today: do not become angry when someone having a different skin color, speech accent, higher or lower educational level, or otherwise provides an unkind attitude. Simply smile, conduct the business at hand quickly, and leave. Return another day and if the individual is still very unfriendly for no reason, take the problem on up the ladder.
When a black says something racist, they get the take back card. A white would have been burned alive by the naacp and other black groups. The truth will out.
OMG. The issue is that she admitted that she emotionally struggled to help a white farmer whom she perceived to be acting racist towards her -- never mind the fact that the government at that time was being systematically racist toward all black farmers.
Was she a fool for honestly admitting the truth? I do not think so, because I can relate!
In my lifetime I have dealt with several abusive customers but, like Shirley Sherrod, I treated them all professionally! I can honestly state that I never spat in the food of any customer, gave substandard service to any customer, gave incorrect information to any customer, gave incomplete information to a customer, or withheld information from any customer.
Now you learned Dear, if you want to make racist remarks publically then you have to be a radio host. Then you just get a couple of weeks vacation and get your show back.
Watch the full video.
She does not deserve any of this. Her story was one of showing how she was able to change her mind and overcome her prejudicies.
She has done absolutely nothing wrong and should be held up as a hero as to what we can be and achieve.
The NCAAP Fundraising crowd are the true villains. Clapping as they hear the beginning of her story not understanding the outcome she was promoting. Those are the villains. Even now NCAAP is re-tracting their story without investigating this.
Shirley Sherrod should be immediately re-instated and promoted to any position that will allow her to continue to inspire.
I truly believe the Black Panther party should be persecuted to the full letter of the law.
However, this poor lady has been ram-rodded and does not deserve this.
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I am a 55 year old white man that now lives in the Midwest,i dont think this lady did anything wrong she said that 24 years ago while she had a position to help PEOPLE and she was givin the task to help a white man save his farm and she had thoughts that hey why am i helping him when so many black farmers cant get no help , well i can relate as 24 years ago things were a lot different than today not that they are good today but the black man has life alot easier today than 24 years ago i was born in 1954 so i dont really remember 1960 to good but 65 i remember real good and there was still a white side of town and a black side and everybody knew where it was divided and no matter what kind of crap you want to give me i see that it hasnt changed anything like the government would like us to think ,look at our federal prisons 68% black and mostly drug war prisoners, your tax dollars at work , NOW to fire this lady because she said that 24 years ago she looked at herself and said to herself that she saw herself acting out from the way she had been treated her whole life in a way that she didnt like and she effectively changed the way she acted towards others as a result of this and she has done a great job serving people of all races and even uses her own experience to share with others to show that even that she didnt see the bigotry in herself until faced with this issue and that when she did see it she was unhappy with herself and changed it, i commend her and i dont see anything to defend at all, and again i am a white man that lives in the midwest and yes i voted for that half black man and i am going to vote for him again but i do think that he has to start backing up his staff when they deserve it and this is a time when he should stand up with her , but then all the tards would yell hes black shes black and so on, SEE HOW THINGS HAVENT CHANGED AT ALL
The NAACP didn't have one word to say about her "shameful remarks" until conservative news outlets and commentators made sure this video saw the light of day.
fiscalconservative,
It's 10 PM and you still don't have a clue as to what really went on do you? Once again we see teabaggers and Repubs as willing to believe any lie fostered upon them by FAUX News and other right wing malcontents without checking for themselves first. You're not in the light you're completely in the dark and always will be. Research shows that the woman did nothing wrong at all.
Was my idiotic post after reading the story and at first blush...
After learning the truth...
William re: 1.147
You, and a few posters all agree but you said it the most eloquently. I'm letting you know that I just copied your post because I am sending it to the President. You are demanding a Presidential apology afterall and I think he should hold a press conference to do it.
Well done and well said.
and the farmer came back and said that she had saved his farm and he was friends with her. in the full speech she admitted that she had been wrong at the time, and that judging by race was a wrongful thing to do.
What this whole incident shows is how hair trigger the NAACP is to throw the race card for political purposes, and how hair trigger the Obama administration is to react to baseless racial incitement, again as a matter of politics. No due process, no getting the whole story, just knee jerk reaction on the basis of race. The Obama administration has to be the most racist administration we've had since FDR.
Fox Ewes creatively editing video to fit their agenda? Naw, surely you jest! As long as there are people who blindly believe them, they will break the rules about "fair and balanced news". Unfortunately, nothing will be done about their lying.
Why do stories like this one surprise anyone...The media is all about "FACT" and not "TRUTH". It's not uncommon for the press to do this type of reporting. It happens all the time. Do I condone it, absolutely not. But it is an example of how the press exploits their constitution right just to get ratings...
So today we know that an innocent woman was crucified by a conservative writer who played freely with the tapes. How duped do ya'll feel? This is a shameful ending for jumping to conclusions. The fake writer should be in trouble and yet an innocent woman lost her job.
What an embarrassment.
I have deliberately shut out all news sources in my life. I rely upon friends and family plus "my gut" to guide me through each day.
I am doing just fine and enjoying life.
The Media is both boon and bane to us all. I became too sick and tired of dealing with them....trying to read into the meaning of things, figuring the spin they had cultivated, answering their polls and other such meaningless chores.
I have better things to do and can rely upon ME, not their rhetoric.
Mike,
I will admit that my comments were also a kneejerk reaction. I am tired of only white people being tagged as racist and I am tired of statements being made when a person is young and inexperienced being held against them as they get older and have learned that their thinking was flawed. If I were to meet this woman I would apologize to her.
As for you, who gives a flying @!$%# if you think I was in the suck or not? I did my time honorably, I paid for my mouth in bootcamp and hit the pits like everyone else. Because some dolt on the internet doubts my service it makes no difference to me. If YOU were a Marine you would have confronted me based on what we were discussing and simply left it that, instead of questioning whether I served or not, what a @!$%#bird!. The Eagle Globe and Anchor were wasted on those like you, those that went UNQ in life.
Gov Hater, in the end it turns out to be just another politically motivated LIE, neocons, right winger, teapartiers are at worst cynical, power hungry, political hacks who will do ANYTHING for power; and at best uninformed, ignorant followers. The republican partys current stance of obstruction and obfuscation might provide them with short term gains, long term though they are dooming themselves to second tier. It will be a cold day in hell before I ever vote republican again adn I will do everything possible to expose the lies of the republicans.
She should be thoroughly investigated. How many whites has she victimized?
Betsy Ross - Shut up. Don't you get it that you've been lied to?
Fox was so all over this story, but the white farmer didn't have anything bad to say about this lady. I saw the interview with that farmer on the news - fox, by the way. This is so stupid. Both sides are stirring up trouble.
You make no sense. There were no "shameful remarks", just spliced together clips to make it seem like she was making "shameful remarks". Obviously you have been out of the loop for the past 24 hours or you would know the whole story by now.
Funny, that does not answer the question at all! but it does show your real motivations...
But you knew who he was, and what he stood for, and you choose to actively support him, with your business...
Nope, not at all. I did not dodge questions! I have nothing to hide and no partisan agenda at all.
Unlike you... I do not run and hide from questions, as I do not wrap any of my self worth or identity in either political party!
Does guilty by association apply to you, or just Democrats?
You have admitted to choosing to do business with him.. you chose your associations...
whiteguy69 banned, posted this three times. Pre-emptive namecalling is even worse than calling names after perceived slights. Don't middlefinger everyone you disagree with.
Okay foolish ratpublicklan. This woman's father was lynched by the KKK the same kind of mind set you find in the teabaggers party. She said "his own kind' because she was expecting a white person to take care of "his own kind". If she carried the farmer to a black lawyer he would have had no chance in court in racist Ga. But she then realized that it not about skin color it is about rich and poor. That is when her mind set changed. Unlike racist conservatives she can evolve. And the laughter you heard was her just making light of the fact that he had all this attitude and he needs my help. It like in restaurants you don't piss of the cook or waiter. If humble yourself to someone you need help from you get better results. I have never seen a compassionate conservative or Teabagger
Such a scary and dangerous time in America that has set race relations in the US back 50 years. The NAACP is truly in deep decline. Authentic civil rights leaders such as Martin Luther King are surely rolling in their graves. As for the "rush to judgment" Washington crowd this is just the latest example of foolish, dangerous and premature remarks that has characterized the last year and a half plus. Back in the summer of '08 I had written and performed a folk tune - directed to a predominately liberal audience at that - that "we'd all sleep better every night, with John not Barry by the (red) phone" and I was right then and right now. There is no chance to "apologize" your way out of serious defense mistakes and that's very much unlike the continuing and intentioned efforts of racial division here in the US as this shameful (latest) episode demonstrates. For shame!
lots of apologies need to start happening now due to every nut job republican jumped to conclusions as usual.
ok ATTENTION ALL RIGHT WING TROLLS
The new thing is to blame the Naacp and Obama for firing the lady you all wanted fired yesterday before we fund out the tape was a phony so change over to your anti Obama and anti NAACP cut and paste folder ASAP.......
Now they wished they had not done so I would expect
They did nothing more than Obama has done. !st time was the white Cop doing his job. 2nd was the Arizona border law. She should still have been fired for what she did intially it doesnt matter that she went back and fixed the problem.
The NAACP jumped the gun to denouce racism. It seem under this admin. that everyone is hypersensitve to color. No appologies neccesary she messed up and placed race at the forfront of her job and then realized that she was wrong and finished what she was supposed to do in the fist place. Put them in differnt shoes. This white individual would have faced the same issues and lost his job. even though he had fixed what he should have done in the begining.
Again this just shows how hypersensitive the country is about race. and that is how the politians want it. nothing will ever get fixed unti people take on these problem with out government intervention. and leaders in all groups pointing fingers.
Did anyone actually read the story????????????????????????? Why is the NAACP at fault here??????? The story stated that the video was edited to make it seem like she was a racist. Posted on the same criminal blog as the Acorn story. This lady lost her job because the fart right extremist created a lie in the edit room. Why is no one concerned about the truth being changed after the fact? All of you should be angry about the fact the same blog keeps putting out lies and keeps getting caught doing it. You may not like the NAACP or even Obama but lies from any side should not be tolerated. Not from Obama nor from Rush.
Does anybody else think this "special" job they are offering her sounds like what the Japanese call a "window seat"; that is a useless position to shunt her aside. They screwed up, but she's not to get her old job back, she's to get a "special" job where she can be kept far away from cameras and anything important.
Robert is right on the money...The NAACP is at fault and a racist organization because they brought to light the fact that the video was edited? That makes a lot of sense >_>
It looks like the right wing-nuts missed the boat. Unfortunately, by her being fired, she can demonstrate real damages and this pretty much sews up a slander or libel suit. Wonder if the Tea Baggers will pay for the legal bills and the damages? There's nothing like just splicing together tapes in such a way as to tell a lie. No shame at all!
EVERYONE over reacted to the clip that was broadcast,including the NAACP and the White House ,dacincykid. I'm willing to admit that and I'll try going forward to get the WHOLE STORY before jumping to a conclusion. Regardless my statements against racism stand as written,barring the incorrect assumptions made about this case.
Chris...gotta hand it to you. You can make a bowl of @!$%# stew smell like a bowl of @!$%# stew. You pay her goddamned legal bills or axk your buddies at the naacp to pay her bills. Frankly I do not care who pays her bills. Although she was telling a quaint little story to the group, the plain facts are that the group found it quite amusing that she was dissing a white guy. She also, in that same speech accused the bush white house of 8 years of racism. I frankly don't give a damn who apologizes to her or even if she is able to find another job being as she ain't gonna win any lawsuit against her employer. If you goddamned people cannot yet see the damage your reckless use of the "their a racist" accusation can cause then this country is in deeper doodoo than I can imagine. You guys just keep on hurling your "he's a racist" bull@!$%# and see who will care next month. Keep it up please!
Congrats to MSNBC. I thought they would bury this story. It shows another facet of the racism that is prevalent in the NAACP and their "faux civil rights" movement.
The "Civil Rights" movement has been anything but civil. In her last majority opinion Judge Sandra Day O'Connor opined:
"Though we acknowledge that Affirmative Action exists in opposition to the United States Constitution; we do no feel the the American citizenry can handle the constitution as it is written at this time."
Now we see that Perversion Activists have adopted these unconstitutional tactics as their own; the number one weapon used in this war against our freedom is the coining of words to lend an appearnacee of righteous indignation...
They DID bury it! I searched for it earlier and they had it buried somewhere...deep...I wrote a comment on it and 3 other people followed...about 30 minutes later it was on the headlines! I believe they were forced to air it...I also went to CBS News...guess what...NOTHING! I'm so tired of the racist, biased media running our country!!!
"Congrats to MSNBC. I thought they would bury this story." Kinda like they buried the story that the Oakland shootout perpetrator is an extreme right-wing nutcase? Oh wait... THIS story is on MSNBC, THAT story isn't. Had the guy been a Muslim it would have been wall to wall coverage.
They finally posted it. BUT in doing so they "softened" it by paraphrasing some of the actual comments thus making it appear less disparaging.
We wouldn't want msnbc to fully expose a story that is contrary to their agenda, would we?
Actually the stories state that he hated extreme left-wing politicians. You don't have to be a "right-wing nutcase" to hate what they've done this year. Even the polls show that to be true. I know several moderates and centrists who feel the same way.
It doesn't make what he did right, but you did soften it up by leaving out that this guy had just got out of prison. The fact that he got in a shootout with cops shows he wasn't right in the head. The cops aren't left wing politicians.
Did any of you bother with the rest of the story? Nope? Big Government should post the entire video because like many Fox videos there is an abrupt cut off.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/would-shirley-sherrods-full-naacp-speech-give-a-different-impression/19561003
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/would-shirley-sherrods-full-naacp-speech-give-a-different-impression/19561003
When the Tea Party stops paying attention to race baiting political entities and instead gets on with the addressing the crucial issues, I will then begin listening. Actually, whatever party begins addressing issues instead of wasting time on race baiting will get my vote. And for the record, after seeing Michelle Obama speaking at the NAACP last week saying something to the effect that we (african americans) need to 'intensify' our efforts to help african americans, I definitely will not be voting for Obama. I am tired of the race baiters. I suppose Michelle Obama is very proud of Shirley Sherrod and her efforts.
One thing I notice is that the Woman quit. Maybe she was forced too. But no where did it say she was booted or fired. Also the reaction to the speaker from those in attendance were by far more distrubing than anything else. If this is a local group, it maybe only this group, however I'm not so sure. We've seen the same in the local group in Raleigh NC. Even after they have gotten a black eye from defending a woman who lied to the police and then later showed just how bad she was. Backing a witch hunt for publicity. The tea party comment was all aimed at publicity. More money for their pockets. Why don't the blacks of America wake up and see what a waste this group is. All the new stories of abuse and robbery by the group leaders and yet they still go on as holy than thou. It this group that keeps the hate alive and only for money. They exploit the black communities worse than any other group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0&feature=related
Obama is not a racist, he is treating all Americans with equal derision.
She did "enough?" The man lost his farmland and his livelihood. And by her own admission, she did less for the man because he was white, but justified it by saying she did "enough?"
Give me a break, lady. You're out of the job because the NAACP doesn't want to come across as justifying such a load of bull from a black woman.
NAACP pfffftt!!
The next thing you know they will want to make a state park out of Neverland Ranch!! Oh wait....
LKessler... wow, way to make that statement up! The farmer kept his land with the assistance of Ms Sherrod.
when i see a group of NAACP members lynching and burning white farmer, and then distributing post cards on the event, you'll get my attention...
this woman appears to have been taken out of context... whatever.
what i see is a room full of bigots desperate to project their hate on others... what a @!$%#ty little world you people live in.
The NAACP is no better then the KKK
Jen...that would have required that LKessler to actually READ the article...and it's so much easier for them to just get their talking points on the teevee from Fox News and then come here to spew them.
Jen-619159 --- From what I can gather, the only "assistance" Sherrod gave the white farmer was to turn his case over to "one of his kind" - a WHITE lawyer. In my world, that's called passing the buck and VERY RACIST.
NJ....apparently, you also need to actually READ the article...
@madkaw3
So, what is the statue of limitations on using of racism, when working as a government employee, that causes hardship and bankruptcy to someone?
I forget....
Maybe we can answer that question long after Obama is out of office.
Patrick,
LISTEN to her entire speech. You are coming to a wrong conclusion. Fox only presents HALF truths.
She did not make racists remarks other than to explain her own previous bouts of it and the turning point in her life.
Niteowlett,
There is NOTHING in that speach that SHOULD have been said, period. Its far worse than that General that Obama just fired for shooting off his mouth and she deserved the same without a doubt.
The only reason she said all this was to get favor with the NAACP, and that is the real sad part of the story.
I would take Half Truths over 100 percent lies anyday. That is all we are getting out of this administration time after time.
Obama supporters are too busy digging up stuff from the past to see where they are going.
Since Patrick seems to be all about making assumptions without all of the facts, here's my assumption...Patrick is a dittohead. Prove me wrong.
Your own ignorance is astounding. I am sorry you cannot read or listen to her entire speech but you are only hurting yourself.
Or, by half truths maybe you two are referring to the GOP who is not voting FOR the extended unemployment? Oh, maybe it's because they want to pay for it, but Obama only tells half truths but that's ok since you are obamabots!!
Or maybe when the NAACP condemned the tea party movement as racists and they didn't have a say in it, but that's ok since the NAACP is a political arm of the democratic party and since you are obamabots, that's ok with you also.
Or maybe when Obama acknowledged to reports at the White House that he didn't know the facts about the (white) cop who asked his (black) friend for his ID when someone reported a break-in at his house but said the cop 'made a mistake'? That kind of racism?
Or maybe after it was pointed out that Obama's church was racist, but it's ok since he said he didn't pay attention all those years? Those kind of half truths?
Or maybe half truths when Obama spoke about Arizonas law and told reporters he has not read it but it must be racial profiling.
Or maybe all the dems voting on the healthcare bill (which still hasn't been completely written yet but voted into law - IE, see Unconstitutional) but very few have read the bill but thought it was a good idea anyway. That kind of half truth?
Or maybe all Obama's czars (which are forbidden by the US Contitituion) and you obamabots eat it up as a benefit to America. Those kind of half truths?
Those kind of half truths and racisms?
Boy, I am with you guys. I hate half truths too!!
Yea, I want to know what's in that koolaid you are drinking!!
Patrick-1112710 -
you and those like you are very twisted. this reminds me of that Fox News item where obama was supposed to be looking at that woman's butt. then later, we get the truth elsewhere, certainly not from Fox.
this woman was commenting on her past beliefs, recognizing her failure and moving forward... period.
you could potentially look to her as a role model! the fact that you and your kind can obsess and point the racism finger so vigorously, given our KNOWN recent history in this country, is just so clearly stupid it boggles the mind.... what is your point? that the white man is oppressed by the black man? that the economic bottom 20 percent of our population oppresses the remaining top 80 percent? like i said, stupid.
Here's what really happened:
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/07/20/shirley_sherrod_breitbart/index.html
if the woman was revealing a story of personal growth it is shameful that she be dismissed over it. If the woman was sharing this as a see what we can do to them type story she should be dismissed.
One thing i observed in her story is she thought the farmer was trying to demonstrate superiority as a function of race. when in fact anytime you deal with people who are in distress they try and preserve their honor by maintaining a similar air. it is human nature, and not race based at all. it is the fact that humans don't like having to get help.
How long can a news source continue to bury news stories and still be considered a credible news source?
With regard to the initial media coverage of the resignation of USDA official Shirley Sherrod, we have come to the conclusion we were snookered by Fox News and Tea Party Activist Andrew Breitbart into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias.
Having reviewed the full tape, spoken to Ms. Sherrod, and most importantly heard the testimony of the white farmers mentioned in this story, we now believe the organization that edited the documents did so with the intention of deceiving millions of Americans.
The fact is Ms. Sherrod did help the white farmers mentioned in her speech. They personally credit her with helping to save their family farm.
Beck Supports Sherrod. Beck thinks Sherrod got the bum-rush,
You Know... Beck makes a great point here. I am really on Team Beck on this, I think.
Krauthammer just said on Special Report she deserves her job back... and restitution.
The Anchoress brought up this possibility -- that the tape didn't seem complete, and that Sherrod seemed to be building to something that we never heard.
In fact, that does seem to be the case, given that the wife of the farmer helped in this tale is now vouching for her.
LOL you clowns jumped the gun again and now have egg all over your puss......
All in all a wonderful story a black woman faced with the desire to become a racist resists the impulse tosses those feelings and does the righ thing. Now she should sue the living hell out of the teaparty idiot that edited the tape and Fox news. Murdoch has deep pockets.
The NAACP should be disbanded. They are the biggest group of racists on the planet. They attack sports teams for having names like Braves and Redskins, but they keep the name National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. I thought that Colored People was a racist term. If they want to attack other organizations about their names, maybe they should look inward and change their own. But then in their eyes it is OK for one black man to call another ni#$#, but let a white do it and they will explode. This organization is steeped in the idea of a double standard that they have become what they purport to hate, racist.
I can only hope that since you wrote your misguided, misinformed, and ignorant response, that it has been revealed to you that what you saw was a well edited snippet designed to smear an honest woman. Please note as well that both the white farmer and his wife were on national tv and noted the deep friendship that evolved between this woman, whom you have so ignorantly slighted, and themselves. You poor pathetic knuckledragger. Hurry, you'll miss your good seat at the Palin rally this evening.
I want to say that I am shocked that so many people did not take the time to look at the entire story before condemning Ms. Sherrod, with all that I see on line on a daily basis, I am not in the least surprised.
Even the white farmer she refers to has come forward and considers her a friend. Considers her a friend, for Gods sake! The NAACP should not be disbanded, but instead I applaud Julian Bond, NAACP President Emeritus for stepping into the fray, and stating that this woman's story not only should have been heard, but to have not heard it in it's entirety is a travesty and absolutely must be corrected.
To be wrong and allow ones self to admit they were wrong, is something that should be absolutely applauded, not edited and held up to undeserved scrutiny. Seriously, the people who were responsible for this hatchet job should be made to publicly apologize to Ms. Sherrod and her family!
Colored people is not a racist term it was the term used at the time the NAACP was founded. I do think but that to attack the sportsteams of Braves and Redskins is ridculous but certainly not racist. Oh and as for the organization advocating the use of the word n***** they have been openly against the use and spoken out against rappers and other black americans that allow the term to be common. Not every black person calls their peers that word, there are some who actually feel that it ignorant for any person to use derogatory terms towards a certain people. The NAACP is just very outdated for this time.
OMG. The issue is that she admitted that she emotionally struggled to help a white farmer whom she perceived to be acting racist towards her -- never mind the fact that the government at that time was being systematically racist toward all black farmers.
Was she a fool for honestly admitting the truth? I do not think so, because I can relate!
In my lifetime I have dealt with several abusive customers but, like Shirley Sherrod, I treated them all professionally! I can honestly state that I never spat in the food of any customer, gave substandard service to any customer, gave incorrect information to any customer, gave incomplete information to a customer, or withheld information from any customer.
We know who the racist are,now we know that this whole thing was a lie buy the right wing and fox noise.
@Get The Point
I doubt you ever will...
Your messiah is calling you back to the flock.
This is getting the the point of the rediculous!!!!This Person has given all her life and now for some twisted political reason is being brought to the this point.It really pisses me off.Yeah I,m Canadian.I live in Windsor right across the boarder from Detroit.This Crap has to stop.My son married a malato(half Black Half White) I love my Daughter in law,I am so proud of my son and my three grandchildren.We had a Bar-Q. yesterday and there were alot of people with diferrent pigmentations of skin.We really are family.The whole question of race.It is imature and not real.When I hold my grandson.The fact that I have a pointed nose and my grandson does not,was brought up I laughed I love that child.I love all my grandchildren.For this hard working dedecated woman would not reject a hug from me.Please all you all in positions of power let these mental games STOP!!!!
Another one gets a real good position and screws it what a waste.You can have a racist NAACP but youll' go to jail if you have a white organization,the state of Illinois pays big money every year for BLOCKS IN CORRECTION, no money for scools but by god they better have money for that.
the NAACP and the black panthers are the most raciest people on the face of this earth their name says it all.
bigjboy. "Another one"? Who is this "Another one" you are referring to?
Why hold back? Why not simply tell us exactly how you feel? Then go over to the CNN website, and watch the Spooner's tell you that Ms. Sharrod is not at all racist, and that they consider her a friend!
I am sorry. I know this is a website were people are allowed to share their views, but I sure wish at times like this that people had to post their full names. If one wants to make a remark that is not based in fact and is wholly meant to inflame racial animus, they should have to stand by it personally!
OH MY GOD,
Are you all lemmings?
As Faux says you believe!
Shame on all of you
When people are faced with poverty they strike out at those that are in poverty. When people are faced with the reality that they may have to live beside those that they detest, they become angry at those. This is what happen during reconstrution. The same patterns are in place today. Don't hate because you are going to be poor, hate yourself for spending to much of your income.
NAACP,
Get used to this happening more. The world is a circle and what goes around comes around. As I understand the details of this, this is over something she said 20 plus years ago about not giving a White farmer her full help because she believed White Farmers had the advantage over Black Farmers. I watch the video and it was a racist thing for her to say and do.
If White People are still expected to pay for the fact that "some" of our anchestors owned slaves, then this person should have to pay for her racist remarks regrdless of how long ago they were made. They were (at least at the time) how she trully felt about White People.
To post 2-21...
I really don't care what the contents are in the actual video. I think this is the greatest thing that could happen to the NAACP, after calling me, a Tea Party member, racist. I know exactly how that woman must feel, because she is now a racist, and exposed as one, exactly as the NAACP did to the Tea Party.
Except the NAACP did not call you, a Tea Party member racist, but challenged you to boot those within your ranks that clearly are.
You have absolutely nothing in common with Ms. Sherrod, as she actually stood up and not only admitted her own personal bias, but took the time to learn and grow from it!
Shame on you andreasjva!
Wow... what a snow job! FOX had the original video so edited that it goes without saying that the end product is a lie and a simple case of defamation of character! This is just a case of pay back for calling out the leadership of the Tea Party to ferret out racism in their own ranks (a modest request at best by the NAACP). The video in its entirety is about redemption, her introspection, self doubt and self questioning as to her own buried racism (her Father was killed by a Klansman). She saved the white farmer's farm and they are good friends to this very day. The white couple in question even appeared on TV on her behalf! FOX has never been and never will be about journalism - this is a political organization whose principal product is propaganda, half truths, misdirection, slanted polling data and out and out fabricated lies!!! If you want to see the video in its entirety you can see it on CNN and or MSNBC.
LMAO! Uh, no, she said nothing like that. And you've got to be the biggest imbecile on the whole Internet if you believe it.
Nice try, but you're an effing imbecile, as the organization receives no such funds.
The huge number of idiots writing here about a situation that they know absolutely nothing about is amazing. This woman is a victim – not a racist. She was a victim when a white racist farmer killed her father; she was a victim when a white racist legal system let him go free; she was a victim when after overcoming her own racist fears to help a poor white farmer save his farm, and trying to use her story to teach others about overcoming their racist fears to work together, she was set upon by racist minded political hacks, had her words edited and misconstrued and broadcast to the world as a racist speech.
This woman deserved a public apology by the media, the people writing here, but most of all by the President of the United States of America. He should instruct the USDA to reinstate her with a promotion and apologize for the destruction of her character and livelihood by his idiotic Secretary. The USDA, NAACP, Tea Party Organization, Fox News and the other Media outlets need to broadcast a special apology to this lady. Thank God she has enough money now (she just received $13,000,000) that she can tell them all to go kiss her behind. The rise of the idiot class in America is indeed troubling.
Oh William! We should not have to result to name calling when we discover a difference in opinions. I believe she is a victim and a perpetrator. She admitted that she did not do what she should have for that farmer. Whether she was a white woman helping a black farmer, etc, what she did was wrong; however, she is a victim of political tit for tat and knee jerk assumptions and denouncements. It is one thing, to present an argument, but to tailor the argument to suit a belief, without putting the entire context into view, was wrong on the blogger's part.
Only in my humble opinion, blessings to everyone!
Truth is, if she is telling a story that explained how she has grown, she should get her job back. In fact if she told a story that she hated white people but did nothing to hold them back as far as her job, she did nothing wrong. We learn by letting the addict or sinner or bigot or whoever tell their story. Let them give testament and do not hold it against them if they are telling the story to promote healing or forgiveness.
Regardless of how Foxnews edited this clip is how the President responded in firing Sherrod. Fox News,MSBC,NAACP,The Civil Liberties Union, didn't fire Her. Barrack Obama fired Her!
fenderbluesjr
Do what you 'conservatives' do best--pass the buck...
Do you folks ever take responsibility for anything? Your party is priceless!
fenderbluesjr -
you and your kind are a joke and you just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper. have you no shame? LOL.
Praying-1191497
Oh William! We should not have to result to name calling when we discover a difference in opinions. I believe she is a victim and a perpetrator. She admitted that she did not do what she should have for that farmer.
Wrong! Go to the CNN website and see that the White farmers in question not only got the help that they needed from Ms. Sherrod, but consider her a friend.
Whatever you believe she admitted to, it might help if you listen to her statement in it's entirety. This isn't about a difference of opinion, but an inability for people like yourself to see the forest for the trees!
Why do people kept saying "she helped these people saved their farm"? Wasn't it her job to do just that? This wasn't a charity work that she did. She got pay to do a job that she did less for Whites and more for Blacks. This is called discrimination based on race, period.
But wait there's more!! After hearing all of this story this may well be the reverse of the incident that led to the beer summit. I admit I was angry after hearing the tape but now that I know, in the words of the late,great Paul Harvey,"The rest of the story" I'm not so sure the right thing was done here.
mybestfriend
Why do people kept saying "she helped these people saved their farm"? Wasn't it her job to do just that? This wasn't a charity work that she did. She got pay to do a job that she did less for Whites and more for Blacks. This is called discrimination based on race, period.
Have you lost your full f'n mind? People are saying that, because the Spooner's, couple in question are saying that. Her job was a state job, and no one is saying it was "charity work" or that it was "more for Blacks" than Whites! That is a figment of your over active imagination, and shows that you are obsessed with discrimination, especially when it does not exist!
Some people are just incapable of acknowledging a mistake. An simple apology is then just patently out of line. These folks would rather engage in apologism (an entirely different thing, righties)
I'm tickled that the liberals are attacking conservatives for not getting the "whole" story, when the NAACP attacked Sherrod just yesterday. Sounds like they didn't get the "whole story" either.
The NAACP has lost all credibility.
It's that simple.
Brad - 2.28
I cut her some slack over her opinion that the man was trying to make her know she was superior to him.
She'd live in the racist south her entire life. In my opinion, this was a defense mechanism and a way to keep him away.
But it didn't work. Her HUMANITY came out and she realized that this man was JUST LIKE HER.
I live in Albany GA where the Sherrods live. They had her on the local news tonite 7-21-10 the utube clip was a lie they editted all the good parts out. Mrs Sherrod did help the farmer find a lawyer who helped him keep his land. Him & his wife ( the Spooners) still live there. The Spooners credited her for all the help they received & called her a friend for life. I'm a white man & I know the Sherrods are good people. I think her husband Charles died not to long ago. Obama & his administration did her wrong. They have worked all their life helping people.
ROY WILSON-336103
The NAACP has lost all credibility.
It's that simple.
"It's that simple" to who? You?
Well then I guess it's a good thing no one asked since the NAACP has now done what no one on Faux News or anyone else on the radical fringe right has done. Admitted that they were wrong for chastizing Ms. Sherrod, without gathering all the information first! Should I hold my breath until Faux News does the same?
Oh, wait! You were trying to intimate once again that somehow the NAACP is a racist organization, now based on what Ms. Sherrod said, right? Well since you now know that her statements were taken completely out of context, I am sure your opinion of the organization was changed...right?
stc1993, Obama walks a fine line when it comes to any and all race related issues, as there are so many people looking for him to favor one race over another, then jump on the opportunity to crucify him for it.
However, in this case, I want to see Obama not only personally reinstate Ms. Sherrod to her former position, but do so with her by his side, in front of an entire bank of camaras, with the farmer's in question also in attendance. This woman has been wronged, and it is time to at least take some opportunity to make it right!
That kind won't let fact or anything keep'em from pounding their same tired old message. Damn the torpedoes and rocks and edge of the world!! Full speed ahead!!
It takes the kind of courage some folk just do not have to admit error and move their minds around that fact.
I'm getting a gut feeling President Obama is starting to see that working to appease the right is a lose-lose situation. Maybe we'll start seeing this more often from the POTUS, bsb.
If a white person makes any kind of racial slur, he's out the door within seconds after the words leave his mouth. The pendulum swings both ways. She was at an NAACP meeting. She knew her comments had racial overtones, but she said them anyway. That was a poor indiscretion on her part. My opinion. I think society as a whole is a little fed up with the "race card" being used at every opportunity. She's being held accountable for what she said like anyone else would and that's OK by me. During his campaign, anyone opposed to BO was labeled a racist and a bigot. I saw those words then more than I ever saw in my life. It's not flying anymore. She didn't resign for being black. She resigned for not being a wise speaker and tempering her remarks.
bsbfankaren,
When Obama reinstates her, do you want a bunch of "them" people around her? Do you want her to have "some of her own kind" there with her? You know, black people? If I made comments like that, people might think me racist, when she makes comments like that, getting cheers from the crowd, she is just misunderstood.
Making those comments has nothing to do with what she did 24 years ago. It shows how she feels now.
You are a racist!
No, You are Racist.
You Are an Idiot.
No You are the Idiot.
You don't listen,
No, You don't Listen
White Power
Black Power
Shut Up
No You Shut Up
Rinse repeat. Yet the country goes nowhere and every one looks dumb!!! Who needs terroists. What does history say about the FALL OF EMPIRES? It Starts Within.
It is a shame the whole clip was not seen. In editing the comments to fit the conservative or news broadcasts position, the resulting adverse action seems unfair. It is. Apparently the reason they feel it is appropriate action is that the position must be pristine as should the implementation of those programs to assist troubled farms facing foreclosure and bankruptcy. In this situation it seems the resignation was more to do with the shadow this cast on the job and agency then the content of edited speech.
The seed of doubt reaps a poor harvest.
She talks about a time when she was racist, but the way she tells the story shows racist tendancies.
It would be like some welfare worker saying
"Back when I worked at the welfare office, we had some black folk come in for benefits. I didn't like it when them kind of people came in. They were getting all uppity, so I put them in their place. I did not want to deal with them, so I sent them over to another person that was one of their own kind. But then later I realized that they were poor like everyone else and helped them. See, I am not a racist anymore because I learned my lesson."
Disclaimer:
The following comments are not directed to or meant to blame any individual, group, company or nation.
Why do we want to believe the worst in people? Is this an example of, “Didn’t I tell you?” This is very sad. Is this a reflection of our society or societies in general? We are told that a person or group is bad and we rally around the bonfire. We never ask, “Why are they telling me this?” Have we not learned from prior events, such as the Gleiwitz incident? How can we negotiate international peace, if we cannot bridge our deep chasm, racism? How does one say, “I am sorry, I was wrong?” Rather, should the question be, “Why did I so quickly believe it?”
This woman did say 'those" words in her speech. It is well-documented in the tape. Shirley is being used as a pawn by the NAACP, and now the White House as a scapegoat.
Frankly, she should be fired. This is only the 'tip' of the iceberg in racism, coming from the very people who are accusing Caucasians of it.
I do not condone racism; it is rampant, and underlying here in the US and Europe. All ethnic and minorities.
It will never disappear. Only for the first 2 years of President Obama's Administration. I thought it was over. It is like a Volcano that has erupted as in Iceland.
Back to square ZERO.
Why can't we look above someone's color and treat them as a whole person. We all are the same.
The NAACP should be condemned; and should be broken up as uncredible group. Where is the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Rev. Al Sharpton. Why haven't they spoken out for this offense. They want to keep the blacks stagnant as in the days of slavery. It's time for them to speak up against their own people's hatred. Some of them.
That goes for the New Black Panther Party, as well. We don't need more hiding behind these "clubs".
I think Imus should have his job back too because he didn't really mean it either! At least he didn't keep hard earned tax payer dollars out of their pocket when they needed it most.
While I agree that much of the NAACP's original good intentions have been lost to race hustlers I still think there are more good people then bad in it but unfortunately some of the bad ones are the leaders. As far as this goes I support reinstating her but I also think that people from all races need to sometimes step back and gain perspective before immediately denouncing something as racist. The TEA Party is a good example of where there have been accusations of racism for a year and the first TRUE racial incident occurred last week and it was dealt with swiftly and fairly. The letter was unacceptable and while I get the point it was trying to make there is too much inflammatory about it to ignore and the TEA Party Federation did exactly the right thing by kicking the Tea Party Express to the curb for refusing to condemn it or the author. Racism is best dealt with by bringing it out into the light and while I initially thought this was a racial incident the only things that are truly disappointing are the fact that whoever put this out UNDOUBTEDLY saw the whole video and failed to disclose that the speech was anti-racism not pro as well as the applause given by the audience to what at first glance are definitely racist statements!! Reverse the participants' race and we'd never hear the end of it even if it was a speech with the same intention (of pointing out how wrong being prejudiced is) given by a white person !!
You are without doubt the dumbest son of bitch ever. Did you watch the full video? You just believe anything Fox News puts out there.
Like I said, you’re just dumb.
[quote]William-1802685
The huge number of idiots writing here about a situation that they know absolutely nothing about is amazing. This woman is a victim – not a racist. She was a victim when a white racist farmer killed her father; she was a victim when a white racist legal system let him go free; she was a victim when after overcoming her own racist fears to help a poor white farmer save his farm, and trying to use her story to teach others about overcoming their racist fears to work together, she was set upon by racist minded political hacks, had her words edited and misconstrued and broadcast to the world as a racist speech.
This woman deserved a public apology by the media, the people writing here, but most of all by the President of the United States of America. He should instruct the USDA to reinstate her with a promotion and apologize for the destruction of her character and livelihood by his idiotic Secretary. The USDA, NAACP, Tea Party Organization, Fox News and the other Media outlets need to broadcast a special apology to this lady. Thank God she has enough money now (she just received $13,000,000) that she can tell them all to go kiss her behind. The rise of the idiot class in America is indeed troubling.[/quote]
I don't see any proof to your claims her father was killed by a white racist farmer.
She is a racist plain and simple. It's not just what she said, she was laughing when she said what she did. The audience was laughing too. You don't tell a story where your laughing at something you did, then later say you got to know the family and helped them out. There shouldn't have been any laughing in any part of her story.
If this was a white person, god help us. Newsvine's servers would have had a melt down. And nothing in the world would have made a difference. The white person could have said that he went on to help the black person, and it also inspired him to help other black people. It still wouldn't have been good enough.
Are any of us really aware of the damage, the real harm, we can do to another human being because of our own bias and distorted political agenda? This unecessary maligning of a person's character is all too prevalent in our society today, where it is acceptable to be overtly mean, just downright cruel. As far as our leaders go, obtain the full story on whatever it is that has been deemed politically incorrect and make a wise decision. Thanks to MSNBC for sticking with this very unpopular topic.
We're 4 months from the Nov. elections and the race pot is already brewing. I see 2 of the usual suspects, Jesse Jackson, and the NAACP. Geraldo made a very simple statement. Most whites are Republicans and most blacks are Democrats. Therein the problem lies. When either side makes a comment about the other, political becomes racial and racial become political. There's no need to blame Fox or anyone else. Decisions were made on the information seen and available-----that includes BO. I saw the same snippet everyone else did. I saw Fox saying we asked for but do not have the entire transcript, but the NAACP had it. Release it and this is no big deal, but if you want to fan some flames, make the issue bigger? Nothing like making a fool out of the Prez and all America. I'm not a BO fan. This, to me, is just another poor decision on his part.
One more quick comment, everybody should know that the government reads these blogs----all that pertains to them and maybe more. They do watch Fox and every other network. They have folks who sit there and do nothing but this. They do look at the polls and want to be aware of public sediment. There is no doubt if you're an activist, you have a lot to say, they probably know a little about you. They may have a little file on you and they have L-O-N-G memories. You do have free speech, but Uncle is watching.
Ms. Sherrod --
Thank you for sharing your story. You are an inspiration to all of us.
While I realize that most of the world is focusing on the racial implications of your story, I have to tell you that I took something entirely different from it. It reminded me that there are actual human beings holding government positions, and some of them are decent folk. Thank you for that -- I needed it. :)
Good luck to you in this idiotic fracas.
If you have any respect for yourself and the TRUTH, you would click this link and watch the whole video, and see if your opinion changes about this whole situation. You should feel better knowing that you gave each side a fair opportunnity to be heard. And if after watching the video, you opinion still doesn't chancge, I would love to know why...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/38335268#38335268
How can this be racist? it was a black women not helping a white dude as much as she would if he was black, because he was white. Why do you think more black people get more food stamps? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the color of the people that work there.
To Bsbfankaren...
"Except the NAACP did not call you, a Tea Party member racist, but challenged you to boot those within your ranks that clearly are."
Shame on you! Challenged me to do what??? Boot out the non existent racist members in the Tea Party??? Are you just plain stupid, or clueless??? I DON'T KNOW ANY RACIST IN THE TEA PARTY! The NAACP is nothing but a racist inciting bunch of nimrods. And by calling the Tea Party racist, they call me racist, which I am not. That's the parallel jack_ss.
Every organization contains a wide variety of views, racist and bigots included. To stereo type an entire organization as racist, is a completely irresponsible use of power. These are political games, designed to lure clueless idiots like you into a slanted view.
I stand by my initial post. I have NO sympathy for this pawn, as I am merely a like pawn in a political war to definimate the character of our organization. The NAACP instigated a racial scenario which is totally foreign to my understanding of EVERYONE I know personally in the Tea Party. Race has NEVER been discussed amongst any of us, EVER. All we've ever talked about is the financial irresponsibility in Washington, and racial slander came out against us from left field. As far as I'm concerned, the NAACP needs to look itself in the mirror, and worry about it's own racial problems within its own organization, and stay out of ours.
Documents Show Media Plotting to Kill Stories on Rev. Wright
It was the moment of greatest peril for then-Sen. Barack Obama’s political career. In the heat of the presidential campaign, videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright. Now the black nationalist preacher’s rhetoric was threatening to torpedo Obama’s campaign.
The crisis reached a howling pitch in mid-April, 2008, at an ABC News debate moderated by Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos. Gibson asked Obama why it had taken him so long – nearly a year since Wright’s remarks became public – to dissociate himself from them. Stephanopoulos asked, “Do you think Reverend Wright loves America as much as you do?”
Watching this all at home were members of Journolist, a listserv comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists. The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged. “George [Stephanopoulos],” fumed Richard Kim of the Nation, is “being a disgusting little rat snake.”
Others went further. According to records obtained by The Daily Caller, at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
In one instance, Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
Michael Tomasky, a writer for the Guardian, also tried to rally his fellow members of Journolist: “Listen folks–in my opinion, we all have to do what we can to kill ABC and this idiocy in whatever venues we have. This isn’t about defending Obama. This is about how the [mainstream media] kills any chance of discourse that actually serves the people.”
“Richard Kim got this right above: ‘a horrible glimpse of general election press strategy.’ He’s dead on,” Tomasky continued. “We need to throw chairs now, try as hard as we can to get the call next time. Otherwise the questions in October will be exactly like this. This is just a disease.”
(In an interview Monday, Tomasky defended his position, calling the ABC debate an example of shoddy journalism.) Read more ...
MSNBC did leave out the fact that the government/White House, in pressuring her to resign through Miss Cook, stated that she had to leave because she would be on Glenn Beck that night. Why did MSNBC leave out Ms. Sherrod's reference to Glenn Beck? Also, Glenn Beck did not have anything about this issue on the night she was pressured to resign, but he did on the following night. He supported Ms. Sherrod - more than the NAACP and the White house was willing to do. He thought the video should be shown in its entirety before passing judgement.
Ah the rest of the story fox wouldn't tell you. Did you see the interview with the white farmer she "harmed"? They were beside themselves at 82yrs old because she was their friend! She had helped this white family save their farm and they grew to be best friends. Why don't fox or the posters here mention that??? Why didn't fox or the right wing mega media play the WHOLE tape for it's audience to "decide for themselves"?
Wow! All I can say is listening is fundamental, listening to the whole speech will open your eyes to a lesson twisted into racism.
Want a teachable moment? Look no further then right here. Just look at all the teabaggers and repubs who got snookered by Faux News and the right wing media then came on Newsvine to vilify this woman. And look at the thumbs up they got. They'll believe anything Faux News throws at em. These are Americans folks who have the right to vote. We are in deep, deep trouble.
Again, everyone starts pointing fingers. What this story really reveals is how quick we are to react to what we perceive to be the truth, rather than first gathering ALL the facts to draw our conclusions.
If the Obama Administration can't investigate this properly and get it right, can they really be trusted know what's going on in Afghanistan and get that right?
Did anyone notice the *rooms* reaction. The point of this video, IMO, is the *rooms* reaction. That speech was given at an NAACP event.
Some notes: fenderblues jr, President Obama may have been briefed about this but had little else to do with it. First off, she was not fired, secondly, she was a lower level staffer.
pnk, no video evidence has surfaced of her saying the "pullover to the side of the road and text in since you are going on Glenn Beck"... it was not on CNN that I could find and I really did look. I have a feeling the Washington Post made that one up out of whole cloth. Given how taken in this situation is, I am reserving judgement.
Andrea... you have proven to me and I am certain many others how sometimes irrational and reactionary members of the tea party can be. The NAACP never called the Tea Party a racist organization. In fact, the only people that said that were members of the Tea Party themselves. But there you are blowing a gasket. First you say that there is not a single racist in the entire organization, then you say in any organization, there are bound to be racists and bigots. Well, which is it? I can tell you it is the latter. Many of the signs held at the Tea Party rallies were well publicized and while it was a few bad apples, the NAACP was asking that they be repudiated (that is the word). It is a reasonable request to ask of an organization trying to establish credibility. So, I have corrected you... go ahead and blow another gasket...
Enough already. As so many of you take the time to think of your own personal nonsence, there is a woman here who's life has been turned upside down by some calluse, unthinking, unconciounable nonsence, specifically designed to take the attention off of certain members of the so-called Tea Party Movement.
To those who actually give a good gosh darn, Ms Sherrod is going to be on CNN this morning, and will have the opportunity to speak for herself. To those of you that are determined to find racism around every corner, why not take a moment to listen, really listen to what this woman has to say, then make your decision.
Hey, I realize I am spitting at windmills here, but one never knows. One of you, just one of you might decide to change your mind!
We need appologies from the NAACP. First they condemned a group for being racists with no proof and then they condemned Ms. Sharrod without looking at the full video. Then they blamed one of the news outlets for their failures!
It is best to always check facts when reading the news instead of jumping to conclusions as many on this board did. From some of your comments on here, I can see you didn't even read the story. Now that the full video has come out, this should be a lesson to us all.
I really do hope she gets her job back. After seeing the full video and hearing her life story, you can see that she is a remarkable woman who wants to serve the poor and help communities. I hope she does several interviews as I would love to hear more about her, her father, mother and sisters' lives. The video was very encouraging and is something we as a nation should aspire to...where we come to the point and see the truth that skink color doesn't matter. We have to help and treat one another the same.
Fox News and Breitbart should be ashamed of themselves. They have only proven the negative opinion that many people already have of them.
LOL! Now everyone is back-pedaling and saying she was talking about how she learn about racial equality...
when she clearly said in her speech how she sent the farmer to "one of his own" which is clearly a racial remark no matter WHAT the context of her speech was. If a white speaker said they referred a black man to "one of his own" no excuse would be accepted and everyone on here defending this woman knows it.
Obama supporters are too busy digging up stuff from the past to see where they are going.
Patrick-1112710,
Dude, I hate Obama way more than you ever will in 10 lifetimes, but you're way wrong on this one. Quit being a stooge and useful idiot for Faux News. The woman did absolutely nothing wrong. Faux News still won though. They just demonstrated how out of touch the Obama Administration is and can't even properly investigate whats really going on in its own government agencies let alone know whats going on in something serious like Afghanistan.
It's really sad that we as a Nation can't get out of our own way! The media posts a "race based" article and then we get sucked into playing the game of "Who's the Bigger Bigot!" We get so caught in our emotions and ways-of-thinking, that we we cease to recognize the FACTS before us! Fact: ALL people carry some type of prejudice toward a group of people (racially, socially, culturally, etc.) We all know it's true, and anyone saying otherwise is a liar! So, now that we've established that all people are guilty, we can stop pointing the finger over who is the "bigger" or "worse" offender, because it is irrelevant! We are all GUILTY!
Fact: This woman gave a speech about an experience she had 20+ yrs ago, and the racial thoughts/feelings she carried at that time. Yes there were people in the crowd who laughed (in agreement) to her comments, which tells me this was the perfect audience to be taught such a lesson! She admits the prejudices she had and explains how her experience with helping this white family eventually caused her to re-think those prejudices, and serves a changing point in her life.
I understand Breitbart (who posted the 3min video snippet of a 45min speech) was trying to pin racial claims on the NAACP because of the accusations they made toward the Tea Party, but to involve this innocent woman to the extent of her losing her job is WRONG! She was using her past experience as base text to delivery a greater and more unifying message. You can't tell me that there aren't officals currently in public office who don't have dark spots in their past! Are they being reviewed? Are their jobs being threatened? And here we all are getting a part of a greater message, and casting this woman to to wolves! Take the comments for the context in which they were delivered before you make such radical accusations!
Why have three of my post from yesterday disappeared into some sort of Newsvine black hole? Not deleted not collasped just disappeared.
Please don't take your job back. Regardless how people are trying to spin it you are a racist and a bigot first class.
andreasjva
To Bsbfankaren
... "Except the NAACP did not call you, a Tea Party member racist, but challenged you to boot those within your ranks that clearly are." Shame on you! Challenged me to do what??? Boot out the non existent racist members in the Tea Party??? Are you just plain stupid, or clueless??? I DON'T KNOW ANY RACIST IN THE TEA PARTY! The NAACP is nothing but a racist inciting bunch of nimrods. And by calling the Tea Party racist, they call me racist, which I am not. That's the parallel jack_ss.
Again, the NAACP did not call you a racist, as I doubt they know you, nor did they call the entire Tea Party racist. I don't know how many different times I can say that, however you are free to look up what Mr. Jealous said for yourself, rather than simply going with what you have been told. I for one listened to Mr. Jealous speak for himself on two different programs and know for a fact what the man said.
As for you calling me various names, well of course that is your prerogative. I know the signs I have personally seen at Tea Party events, the monkeys members have chosen to carry around, and the signs that have shown Obama as an African witch doctor. While you may not see any of that as racist, it shows me that there are people at Tea Party rallies that are not interested in Obama's policies, but in what they see Obama as, and that troubles me and others. Those are the people that the NAACP challenged you all to get rid of. To act like those people don't exist, says to me that you simply don't give a darn!
As for the rest of your post? To say that there are people in all organizations who are "racist" but not taking the time to look at your own organization, simply makes you childish, "I know you are, but what am I". Would you allow your child to behave that way? Then why do you see it as O.K. for adults to do so? That was a rhetorical question, as I already know what your answer will be, simply based on what you have said here. Ms. Sherrod does not need you to care about her, as she has many others who do, and are going to make sure she is given her due in this case. However, you compared yourself to this woman who took responsibility for her own actions, and used that responsibility to try and help change the actions of others at an organization you consider "racist". But it is clear there is no comparison, as you will not even admit that there are people within your own organization that hold racist beliefs.
While it would be nice if you could learn something from Ms. Sherrod, I won't hold my breath waiting for it to happen!
Note to getalifevirginia, the NAACP HAS apologized. They have apologized on television and have called Ms. Sherrod personally to apologize.
The question is, will Andrew Breitbart? Will Sean Hannity? Will Bill O'Reilly? Will MSNBC? All of these outlets stoked the flames of this story for their own ratings.
My, how racism is a multi-headed monster! At this point, I must say I have no opinion one way or the other on Sherrod. Both FOX and MSNBC have shown edited portions of the speech. Most of the rebuttal was in the recent interview of her. So, whether she should get her job back or not, I'll leave up to those who wish to spend the time to delve into all of the facts.
Actually, the big story here is clear AGENDA of both MSNBC and the NAACP. Notice how quick they have been to change course on this black woman? Yet, I haven't seen any changing course on their calling Limbaugh, the Tea Party participants and others racist. Why is that? Everyone who has listened to Limbaugh over the years knows he is not racist. His statements are purposely taken out of context. In fact, even worse than those of Sherrod. Any apology there? Of course not, it doesn't fit with their agenda of disparaging anyone who doesn't agree with the agenda of the left. Same with the Tea Partiers. The NAACP has no evidence, yet, they wish to condemn. As for the state run propaganda machine known as the mainstream media, it has been absolutely pathetic their portrayal of the Tea Party Movement. Anyone with half a brain can easily figure out that they are against the agenda of this administration to redo this country into a socialist state. They feign not understanding what is going on and that is pathetic. That's why their ratings are so far down, they have no credibility anymore.
Jim in Auburn
bsbfankaren, When Obama reinstates her, do you want a bunch of "them" people around her? Do you want her to have "some of her own kind" there with her? You know, black people? If I made comments like that, people might think me racist, when she makes comments like that, getting cheers from the crowd, she is just misunderstood. Making those comments has nothing to do with what she did 24 years ago. It shows how she feels now.
Jim, although it sounds really good, I didn't say anything about "them", but was specific about who should be standing around when Ms. Sherrod is reinstated, if that is what she wants, and that is not clear this morning. I will tell you again, and then you can go back to whatever post you are referring to of mine, for clarification.
Obama should call a press conference with Ms. Serrod on one side of him, and the White farmers in question on the other, and publicly apologize for what happened to her. And I would also like those at Faux News to publicly apologize for smearing a woman who clearly did not deserve it.
Jim in Auburn (Washington?). It was very nice of you to attempt to take my statements out of context, but you know I did not refer to "them", but what very clear on who should apologize to Ms. Sherrod, a lovely person that you, I and other's could learn so much from!
And in closing. Jim, sir. If you have ever seen any of my posts, and I know you have, it should be clear at times, although not always that I am a Black person, so yes I do know some Black people. Hope that helps! As for the "cheers" you hear? If you listen to her entire speech, you will hear cheers throughout, even when she makes it clear that...I am sorry I am going to have to paraphrase here..."it is not about black people, but about poor people". That was her message, whether you caught it or not. The farmers in question did, so why, oh why can't you?
As an aside, is anyone seeing what a beautiful woman Ms. Sherrod truly is?
I am a white person.
I heard the whole story from HER MOUTH (Ms. Sherrod) this morning on CNN.
Before she spoke, I watched THE PARTIAL VIDEO. I was peeved. I hit the roof.
Then I heard her story. She used this story in her speech so she could share with other black people about how SHE LEARNED TO STOP BEING A RACIST.
In fact, after listening to her, I cried because I knew that she did learn something. As she put it - "I learned it is not about race.... It is about those that have and those who do not have." There is no doubt in my mind that this was her personal watershed moment when she realized that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
I think it was very courageous of her to share her story with black people, ALL OF WHOM WERE NODDING IN AGREEMENT AT THE NOT WANTING TO HELP WHITE PEOPLE PART OF HER SPEECH. I hope those people actually learned something too.
At the end of the day, she saved this white man's farm. His farm had been put into foreclosure ILLEGALLY and his first lawyer was a waste. It was BECAUSE OF SHERROD THAT HE SAVED HIS FARM.
I am furious (again) with President Obama because his administration called her four times this week to resign.
I completely support this woman and I want her to get her job back. This is freaking ridiculous.
Don't you think that those who perpetrated the story and the news network (FOX NOISE) should be fined or perhaps prosecuted for their slandering of a good woman???? This cost her her job and will follow her for the rest of her life.
Well done MSNBC........(one of our favourites along with CNN)
You of the NAACP should do your homework before flapping your jaws, then you would not have to appologize for your mistakes.
bsbfankaren
I do not agree this was connected to the Tea Party. Please support this fact when posting something like this.
I do agree that SHIRLEY SHERROD is a wonderful person and HER HATERS on this vine ARE WRONG.
You need to learn how to discern the TRUTH from the media because the media is a waste anymore. Reporters used to report news. Now they speak in soundbites.
witchrunner
My, how racism is a multi-headed monster! At this point, I must say I have no opinion one way or the other on Sherrod. Both FOX and MSNBC have shown edited portions of the speech. Most of the rebuttal was in the recent interview of her. So, whether she should get her job back or not, I'll leave up to those who wish to spend the time to delve into all of the facts.
The "edited" version that MSNBC played, was the portion that people did not get to hear on Faux News. The tape had to be edited because the full speach is 45 minutes in length. However, and this should make you so very happy, the entire speach is available for viewing online. Unedited. Warts and all.
If you like, I could post a link, then you don't have to depend on what any news organization says, and you can form your own opinion.
As a matter of fact, I am nothing if not helpful. Here you are:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/07/the-full-unedited-shirley-sherrod-speech/60135/
The wonderful thing about posts is that you can't run from them. Shame to all of you who threw stones before seeking any real truth. As Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story makes amny look bad, including everyone who concluded this was a case of racism. Shame on you.
Karen in Los Angeles
bsbfankaren I do not agree this was connected to the Tea Party. Please support this fact when posting something like this.
Karen, I don't think I specifically stated that this was "connected to the Tea Party". If I did, I shouldn't have, as I have no proof. The only connection I personally see is that since Jealous, the President of the NAACP last week called on the leaders of the Tea Party movement to call out those in their organization that are racist, it sure looks to me that someone made the decision to go over NAACP tapes and find some sort of smoking gun that would make it appear that the NAACP is a racist organization, therefore calling the kettle black so to speak, even if the tape they chose to use was more than 20 years old. That is supposition on my part, and I freely admit to it.
However, what is clear is that Faux News made the decision to run with this story on much of their programming, beginning with "O'Reilly Factor", it would seem, and have as yet to come forward now and say that were wrong about Ms. Sherrod, as the NAACP has done. That is not supposition on my part, but is as crystal clear to anyone who truly wants to see.
And lastly, I am going to ask you to follow your own advice. The head of the USDA and Ms. Sherrod both clearly stated that they did not hear from the White House, in making this decision or when the decision was made to ask Ms. Sherrod to resign. Rather, someone, who she does not specifically mention, told her that the White House knew about what occured. However, there is no proof that they called for her ouster, only that the President was "briefed" after the fact.
Although I think Obama should publically aplogize to Ms. Sherrod, there is no proof that he or his staff personally asked her to resign.
And you have just shown yourself to be just as gullible and ignorant as the NAACP, Fox"News", the Obama adminstration, and news media in general to have believed this story without getting all of the facts. Breibart needs to be sued and imprisoned.
Hey NAVYNUKE,!
If you wern't in such a hurry to believe Fox "News", you wouldn't look like such a fool today.
While I still think her comments were racist, and a caucasian would have been crucified without a doubt and without a second look if they said the same thing as she did, I have to agree with her ONLY, and I mean ONLY, on the point that I wouldn't want to go back to work there either, if they did offer the job back.
But unlike me, SHE won't EVER have to work again. USDA is a GOVERNMENT run institution. She's going to get a HUGE settlement over this, by playing that race card again. Even though SHE was the one who discriminated against whites, she is now the victim.
She spoke those words to a group at an NAACP meeting! I don't care how long ago it was...blacks still teach hate in their homes, in their schools, in their churches and in their meetings, today!
How can you keep overlooking this? Or worse...how can you keep JUSTIFYING this nasty, hateful, venomous discrimination against Caucasians?! Closing your eyes didn't make it go away. Unless you're deaf AND blind, you should already know this B.S. continues day after day after day.
I personally hope the final dicision is that they WON'T take her back.
I was and still am, first handedly a victim of this ongoing bigotry by blacks. When I was at my lowest of lows, I crawled down to the Food Stamp office and asked for help. "They", the black social workers, also "did enough" for me. I got $10 a month in food stamps. I got to buy a bag of rice, while my black counterparts got to fill their carts FULL of groceries with theirs.
You don't think reverse discrimination exists? You just got it thrown right in your face, and you still don't believe it.
Come on down to where I live. You won't be able to ignore it here.
Its funny how certain individuals(fox news, baby boomers, ignorant uneducated or over) quickly try to compare one comment or act to over a hundred years on injustice, prejudiced, slavery, and racism...Remember were still overcoming and for her to admit that she was wrong considering she grew up during the heat of the struggle is a giant plus.
And, certain comments made here are just ignorant...I just hope their kids aren't being raised with the same beliefs...
This is a perfect example of the measures Fox news will take to spew their biased stance against people of color, specifically African-Americans, and more specifically, President Barack Obama. Ms. Sherrod should sue Fox News for libel. If more people would sue Fox for such irresponsible news reporting, perhaps they would get the message to report facts and not "Faux" news. What is really scary is the millions of people who believe O'Reilly and Beck "hook, line and sinker".
Don't hold your breath waiting for Fox Faux News to correct their mis-reporting or apologize for deliberately conspiring to use a doctored tape to support their own anti-NAACP/ African-American/anti-President Obama agenda. This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg of deceitful reporting Fox News engages in.
She was forced "resign" ? - She should have stood on her alleged principals. Since she gave the speech she knew what was in it. She shood have stood her ground and let them fire her, instead of resigning. She knew by resigning she would retain all her pension and benefits, as oppose to doing the right thing and fighting for what she believed in.
How quick that people point the finger and accuse others of racism before they know all the facts. Indeed this woman had racism in her heart at some point, while apparently learning many years ago that this was wrong. That is bad enough without having this happen to her.
Imagine having something you say taken out of context. It happens all the time and many here have no problem with that if it happens to many of certain political affiliation. The one thing I am sure of is that there are certain people that no matter what comes out of their mouths, its either a lie or untrue. No one is perfect, no one is understood by everyone. But certainly everyone should have the chance to explain their actions. Even this woman deserves that chance. I am upset with the source of this providing only the certain soundbites to make this woman sound as racist as she does, only to find out that she was actually telling about a situation where she realized that what she did was wrong. For everyone like her, there is probably 2 that actually feel that way about people of opposite race. Never give a sucker an even break. But that heartless attitude crosses all race boundaries.
You know, lets assume for just one second that she is telling the truth here and her comments were taken out of context. If that was the case then she is too dumb to be in her position with the USDA to begin with. If this were a "lesson" as she claimed, then why not say she was in a position to help a White Farmer and "COULD" have not given him her full help, but instead she ignored race and helped him like she would a Farmer of Color?
I believe that she got caught being what she is or at least was at the time, a racist in a position of power.
She says now that even if she is offered her job back she might not take it, because she is not sure how she would be treated. Can anyone say "hostile working environment" law suit against the USDA?" Can anyone see the potential that the NAACP lawyers have gotten to this lady and told her she has a good chance at a racial/sexual discrimination law suit against her boss because he is both male and White?
The Obama Adminstration taking a second look at this is nothing more than them doing damage control. You can almost hear the dollar signs in her words "if offered my job back I'm not sure I would take it because I don't know how I would be treated."
Her actions in the end will tell if she is a true racist or not. If she takes her job back with full reinstatement of wages and seniority and benefits, then she's not after the money she could get because she is both Black and a Woman. If she pushes for the law suit(s) then she has revealed, for all the world to see, her true intentions and possibly here feelings on racism.
Please everyone who thinks that this incredible woman made racist remarks watch the entire video. This was a set up by biggoverment.com. Fox news then ran with the story without preforming the most simple act of journalistic responsibility by checking the whole story. This proves what a joke they are. Please view the entire vedio and see for yourselves instead of continuing to believe the lies of fox news.
Dano-1908264
Bsbfankaren, The thing that I find hilarious about these posts is that you and every other liberal scream that Fox News is a faux news show...
I refer to them as Faux News because when Bill O'Reilly was called out about the half truths and at times out right lies that he and other notable figures on that particular network love to propogate, he himself referred to the network at "entertainment" not news. Therefore, I "scream" nothing more than what one of the main personalities as the network himself said. Fox News is not about "news" but is about "entertainment"! Then again, I don't "scream" anything, but rather say or print the words over, and over again.
Hope that helps!
Hey Conway...where is that rock you live under?
Bruce Hess,
I would also point out to people that the statements that were made, happened 24 years ago, 1986 if I am not mistaken. The country was a differnt place than it is today. Ms. Sherrod did not work for a USDA at the time, but did work a non-profit, and was speaking from her personal experience, an experience in the deep south that is different from anything I ever had to experience growing up in the Southwest.
Too many people believe that if they didn't experience something, that it never happened. I applaud Ms. Sherrod for speaking up and out about her experiences and how she has grown from them, and am angered by all the people who refuse to actually see and hear all that this woman said.
To Jen...
"First you say that there is not a single racist in the entire organization, then you say in any organization, there are bound to be racists and bigots."
This is the entire problem with the political BS you try to push on me. I NEVER SAID THERE WASN'T A SINGLE RACIST IN THE TEA PARTY. I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW ANY RACIST WITHIN THE TEA PARTY I KNOW. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, JOIN A WITCH HUNT AND GO LOOKING FOR ANYTHING RESEMBLING RACISM WITHIN THE TEA PARTY??? Once again, people twist words, and try to find any morsal of bad, within the good, because they're threatened by the status quo. You, and others like you, distort the purpose, which is repsonsible and ethical government.
Once again, I have absolutely NO sympathy for the situation. The Tea Party IS called racist, and if you don't believe that, then you're just plain stupid. We are also called Teabaggers, which is a reference to homosexuals. We are trying to be discredited by the politics and the liberal media, and they'll say and do anything to destroy a very good grass roots movement. Even some sick and twisted liberal teacher in Washington state tried to get people to infultrate rallies, and wear nazi uniforms, and carry racists hate signs. So excuse me if I have absolutely no pitty for a situation we live everyday, when we're simply trying to get government to act responsibly. This poor woman got sliced and diced by politics, and I find it VERY amusing that the White House was quicker to cut bait without investigation, than it was to act in the gulf. Politics is all about how you look, not what you do.
To bsbfankaren...
"Again, the NAACP did not call you a racist,"
BULLS_IT! Just an accusation of racism within our organization labels ALL TEA PARTY members as racist. It's nothing but dirty politics, aimed at destroying the momemtum we have going right now. If you for a second don't think this political statement by the NAACP isn't politically motivated, you're just plain ignorant. I'm tired of the games in Washington, and people like you who play right into the BS.
I'm not racist, and I don't spend even a fraction of a second thinking racially. You on the other, think the message the NAACP said was somehow heartfelt, and useful. I'll tell you what I think. The NAACP has far more racial problems then the Tea Party could ever have. The NAACP is nothing but a hot bed of racialy motivated plays against all americans. They had no right to declare anything racial about the Tea Party, EVER.
walkervc and other libs bashing FOX: If you actually decided to pay attention to what goes on there, you wouldn't be so quick to hurl insults their way. They've already been discussing the issue in depth. Check this out:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,597324,00.html
But, that'd be too much of an effort I'm sure. And there is more on the site too. As for your lib media and NAACP where are the apologies for their gross lies about Limbaugh, the Tea Partiers and others? MSNBC doesn't have it in them to recognize when they are wrong, which is most of the time.
Yes MSNBC did report about her being racist, but now what are they doing? They are using the boo-hoo technique to try to get her rehired because she said that she did what she could to help ALL people. The problem is that her own words shows she is racist. I do believe that this is part of the plan to get blacks and white angry enough to riot in the streets and cause an emergency. Hopefully their is enough people to see what is happening and just wait and take your anger out at the ballot box.
ConwayTwitter
While I still think her comments were racist, and a caucasian would have been crucified without a doubt and without a second look if they said the same thing as she did...
Really? Do you honestly believe that you would have been "crucified" for her statements? Do you also believe that the folks at Faux News would not have come to your defence and played your entire statement, or whould they have jumped on the bandwagon and stuffed you under the bus as well?
There have been various statements from White political figures that have come to light in recent months, most recently those of now deceased Senator Byrd, and the only people crucifying anyone, where on the far right. You see, Black people already knew Senator Byrd's story, both the good and the bad, yet folks like Glenn Beck decided to bring up Senator Byrd passed KKK membership as if it were news today. There was no big public out cry, and in fact there were many black people who stepped forward to say how much they admired Senator Byrd. However, I know none of that matters at this point, now does it? The only thing that matters is that you believe you would be crucified, and you will run with it.
As a black person I know that I have to choose my battles, to listen to where someone is coming from before forming an opinion about them and their statements. I was also raised this way, even though my parents both grew up during the time of Jim Crow laws, and my Mother's family has an experience very similar to Ms. Sherrod's. I wish, I truly wish more people on the extreme right could think this way as well, but again, I know that is not going to happen any time soon!
andreasjva,
So I suppose I can say the same thing. Since you are calling the NAACP and Ms. Sherrod racist, that means that you are calling me a racist, since I used ot be considered "colored", and because Ms. Sherrod is a Black woman. Do you not see just how ludicrous that is? Of course not. You have a position on this topic, and you are going to stick to it, no matter what the evidence to the contrary is.
Therefore I say, have at it! I am not going to feed into your lunacy any longer, as you seem to be doing fine feeding it all on your own!
donna426
Yes MSNBC did report about her being racist, but now what are they doing?
I am on the West coast, and didn't see what was reported prior to 5pm PT. However, although MSNBC may have reported about Ms. Sherrod being racist prior to that time, on Keith Olbermann's show and Rach Maddow's show, they not only reported about the story, where it began, how it was blown out of proportion, but then allowed two leaders of the NAACP, President Ben Jealous and President Emeritus Julian Bond, to publically say they had been "snookered" and were wrong to call out Ms. Sherrod, and to publically apologize to her.
So, although I don't know what they are doing "now" as I am currently watching CNN, I know what MSNBC did last night during prime time, even if you don't!
When will Fox News be held accountable for its entertainment at our expense? That woman or others could have been hurt and all Fox News is... entertainment? Her boss made a statement that he acted on his own in firing her. It was not a decision from the Obama administration.
The evil puppetmasters are at it again. When will America realize that Fox News does not care who it victimizes? It only seeks ratings and polarization of American citizens with race and fear the tool.
If its illegal to shout fire in a crowded public arena then this type of incitement based journalism should be illegal. Fox News has cried wolf too many times in their effort to get ratings on a by any means necessary agenda. At a minimum, Fox News should be heavily fined and investigated.
Wow Karen in LA. Normally you and I disagree quite vehemently, but in this case you are SPOT ON!!
This was a total hitjob by Andrew Breitbart (yet again) and Fox News. It's an absolute disgrace that Fox has the power to slander and libel a woman with lies and THEY END UP WINNING IN THE END!
At this point, anything Andrew Breitbart says should be considered a lie. Even if he posts "proof" on his retarded little website, there is a 100% chance it's edited, clipped, and taken out of context. Breitbart is scum.
phew! thank god she's black so she can get another chance and the whole thing is being reconsidered. if she were white she'd be hung out to dry no matter what other information came to light.
To bsbfankaren...
Once again, you're being an idiot. "So I suppose I can say the same thing. Since you are calling the NAACP and Ms. Sherrod racist,"
I NEVER CALLED THE NAACP RACIST! I NEVER CALLED MS SHERROD RACIST. All i said was that the NAACP has bigger racial problems with the oprganization than the Tea Party. And I added that the NAACP used race to play Americans against each other. And I definitely didn't say anything racial about Sherrod. All I said was I had no sympathy for the situation, and then said she was sliced and diced by politics. Are you having a reading comprehension problem?
Conway Twitter
Maybe you should go to your Congressman for help, and if that person will not help you, go to the local TV station (many local TV stations will do a segment on problems incurred by the public). This does not sound right, what is happening to you.
No Public Figure who apologizes "means" it. If they meant it when they said it;, it would have not slipped off their tongues in the first place.
Sincere Apology coming from the NAACP? Never. Back to business as usual.
This seems to be a case of NOT looking before you leap. Everyone, including the media, the White House, the NAACP and the public all jumped on it. This is what happens when you take part of a speech (or conversation) and draw a conclusion. That, plus the fact that this was about an experience that took place BEFORE, not during her present job, shows just how willing we are to jump on anyone for anything that we consider politically incorrect. My question is, why? Had ANYONE done any digging BEFORE they "condemned" this woman, this could all have been avoided! Ok, now comes the big question.... did we LEARN from this??
Karen in Los Angeles,
After you asked I did a little research, and I will admit this was a little research, but this transcript appears to show that there is a connection here between the Tea Party and this video being posted.
I didn't read the entire transcript, but I did read some of Andrew Breitbart's words:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,597324,00.html
People need to start suing Fox and these right-wing liars for slander. Maybe some of this stuff would stop. How anyone can listen to their junk and be so fooled is beyond me!
Linda, that would be like suing the folks here for all the name calling they insist on participating in. There is way to fine of a line between slandering someone out right, and simply reporting what someone else said, or someone else's research, and it is that line that Faux News walks expertly.
What people can do is what we are doing here, fight back against the outright lies, partial lies, and all out inuendo. There will always be those that will stick to their beliefs, but there is always the chance someone's mind will be changed.
You were too fast to pat MSNBC on the back.
What a mess.
Another scandal, another coverup, another thing for the WH and NAACP to spin.
What is it about this story that it makes it any different than any other example of the media's "FACT" and not "TRUTH" approach to reporting. It's not uncommon with the media.
There is prejudice within every demographic in this country, the only difference with some minorities is that they are referred to in a BS compound term...ie African-American. If there is any semblance of racism it's not based on hate so much as frustration over the way some groups are referenced with these exculsive terms.
What we see today, with reports like this, is based on our immature and chicken$hit society's thirst for controversy...
We are all Americans....Period...
ctdad, are you also against those that refer to themselves as Irish-American? Italian-American? German-American? Greek-American's? Or is it just African-American that gets at your craw?
I worked the Census this year, and people refer to themselves with all sorts of "compound" terms. I have and always say that I refer to myself as an American first, and a Black person second, but that is just my way. I don't tell anyone what to call themselves, and would wonder why it bothers you so?
To Jim in Auburn
Sir, I think you need to go back to school (if you are not already taking remedial classes), and if or when you do graduate, get a copy of the full video in question and view it carefully and in its entirety several times. Once you have completed this task, come back here and write an intelligent apology to Shirley Sherrod. This message also applies to all the writers here and anywhere who just seems not to be able to distinguish between a person trying to use their own experiences to teach and promote cooperation between the races. This woman had every right to be angry and to be hateful after what she and her family went through at the hands of white racist; however, when put to the test she came through with flying colors and became a champion for love over hate. She is a hero to me and I support her 100%. Please Mr. President, do the right thing and restore this woman’s job, character and dignity.
They are rethinking in giving her her job back. Get real. She is a racist, and I would like to know what happened to the man she "did not help" to see if her racist behavior cost him and his family their land and income.
She should be in prison for committing a racist crime against the family that needed help.
As we can all see, we are all susceptible to media and political gaming of the citizens of this country. While my heart goes out to Sherrod personally, my compassion for the situation is nearly 0. The reason I say this was watching the political posturing following the initial break of the story. Our government, our politicians, did what they always do first. They looked out for their own best interest over the citizens of this country. Sherrod was thrown under the bus quicker than any response the government has given any crisis situation in recent memory. Politicians are more concerned with image, than running this country. Image is what gets you elected most of the time, not substance. It's our fault.
Being a member of a Tea Party, I've watched as our loosely bound leaderless organization was attacked. It's an easy attack, because we are the American people at the grass roots level in politics. There isn't a single person anyone can attack directly, so the media, and politicians who don't agree with our position on specific demands, degrade our status. In doing so, they repel political rivals because the false media claims can damage their image. It's an easy game to play, because like the Sherrod scandal so elogantly showed, destroying reputations only takes an association without evidence. The play on the Tea Party has been simple, associate "Tea Party" with seedy and derogatory elements in society. It's only a matter of saying, "Teabagger", or "Nazi", or "Racist", or "Bigot", in the same sentence. If the public hears it enough, they form an association without proof. The public does the rest, and the conspiracy theorists pile in for the cleanup job. Once the association has been made, it becomes almost impossible to change. In-fighting soon follows, along with more bad press, and a division occurs. A division in unity is exactly what the politicians want, and is their goal in exacting their underhanded tactics.
I can assure you all, no racists exist in the Tea Party that I know in Virginia.
Here's what drew me to the Tea Party. I challenge anyone who's formed a negative opinon of the Tea Party to read their mission statement. If you really find the message racially offensive, or biggoted, or supremist, than god help us all. (I'm a conservative leaning agnostic independent, by the way)
Tea Party Patriots Mission Statement and Core Values
Mission Statement
The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.
Core Values
Fiscal Responsibility: Fiscal Responsibility by government honors and respects the freedom of the individual to spend the money that is the fruit of their own labor. A constitutionally limited government, designed to protect the blessings of liberty, must be fiscally responsible or it must subject its citizenry to high levels of taxation that unjustly restrict the liberty our Constitution was designed to protect. Such runaway deficit spending as we now see in Washington D.C. compels us to take action as the increasing national debt is a grave threat to our national sovereignty and the personal and economic liberty of future generations.
Constitutionally Limited Government: We, the members of The Tea Party Patriots, are inspired by our founding documents and regard the Constitution of the United States to be the supreme law of the land. We believe that it is possible to know the original intent of the government our founders set forth, and stand in support of that intent. Like the founders, we support states' rights for those powers not expressly stated in the Constitution. As the government is of the people, by the people and for the people, in all other matters we support the personal liberty of the individual, within the rule of law.
Free Markets: A free market is the economic consequence of personal liberty. The founders believed that personal and economic freedom were indivisible, as do we. Our current government's interference distorts the free market and inhibits the pursuit of individual and economic liberty. Therefore, we support a return to the free market principles on which this nation was founded and oppose government intervention into the operations of private business.
Our Philosophy
Tea Party Patriots, Inc. as an organization believes in the Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government, and Free Markets. Tea Party Patriots, Inc. is a non-partisan grassroots organization of individuals united by our core values derived from the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill Of Rights as explained in the Federalist Papers. We recognize and support the strength of grassroots organization powered by activism and civic responsibility at a local level. We hold that the United States is a republic conceived by its architects as a nation whose people were granted "unalienable rights" by our Creator. Chiefly among these are the rights to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." The Tea Party Patriots stand with our founders, as heirs to the republic, to claim our rights and duties which preserve their legacy and our own. We hold, as did the founders, that there exists an inherent benefit to our country when private property and prosperity are secured by natural law and the rights of the individual.
Tea Party Patriots Mission Statement and Core Values
Mission Statement
The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.
Core Values
Fiscal Responsibility: Fiscal Responsibility by government honors and respects the freedom of the individual to spend the money that is the fruit of their own labor. A constitutionally limited government, designed to protect the blessings of liberty, must be fiscally responsible or it must subject its citizenry to high levels of taxation that unjustly restrict the liberty our Constitution was designed to protect. Such runaway deficit spending as we now see in Washington D.C. compels us to take action as the increasing national debt is a grave threat to our national sovereignty and the personal and economic liberty of future generations.
Constitutionally Limited Government: We, the members of The Tea Party Patriots, are inspired by our founding documents and regard the Constitution of the United States to be the supreme law of the land. We believe that it is possible to know the original intent of the government our founders set forth, and stand in support of that intent. Like the founders, we support states' rights for those powers not expressly stated in the Constitution. As the government is of the people, by the people and for the people, in all other matters we support the personal liberty of the individual, within the rule of law.
Free Markets: A free market is the economic consequence of personal liberty. The founders believed that personal and economic freedom were indivisible, as do we. Our current government's interference distorts the free market and inhibits the pursuit of individual and economic liberty. Therefore, we support a return to the free market principles on which this nation was founded and oppose government intervention into the operations of private business.
Our Philosophy
Tea Party Patriots, Inc. as an organization believes in the Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government, and Free Markets. Tea Party Patriots, Inc. is a non-partisan grassroots organization of individuals united by our core values derived from the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill Of Rights as explained in the Federalist Papers. We recognize and support the strength of grassroots organization powered by activism and civic responsibility at a local level. We hold that the United States is a republic conceived by its architects as a nation whose people were granted "unalienable rights" by our Creator. Chiefly among these are the rights to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." The Tea Party Patriots stand with our founders, as heirs to the republic, to claim our rights and duties which preserve their legacy and our own. We hold, as did the founders, that there exists an inherent benefit to our country when private property and prosperity are secured by natural law and the rights of the individual.
I am amazed at some of these comments. First the NAACP never said the Tea Party was racist they stated that the blatant racist comments from some of their members should be called out. This is why they responded so quickly to the doctored video.
Second no one seems to talk about how Glen Beck/Fox News (not to mention others that followed them) ran without verifying the source & accuracy of the video. This was definitely slanderous and race baiting.
To those of you who continue to form an opinion based on little or no facts: 1. Turn up the speakers on your computer. 2. Now, find one of the many links now offering the ENTIRE video. 3. Watch and LISTEN.
I also believe it is time for the FCC to take a close look at the practices of Fox 'News". When a supposed news program can manipulate the news to such an extent as to cost innocent people their lively hood, not to mention their reputations, it's time to call it what it is and hold the perpetrators accountable.
Fox "News" is notorious for misquoting or simply disregarding the facts. They should not be able to use the word "News" at all. It is a total misnomer and deceiving.
This woman not only deserves her job back, she deserves a HUGE public apology, beginning with Fox and continuing with the USDA and the current Administration.
bsbfankaren, I was not twisting and using your words when saying things like "them" and "one of her kind". I was using her words. When people say things like that, I find them racist. So if you are telling a story and you use phrases like that, I find it racist. Does not matter what the story is about or what you learned in the end, when you use terms like that to tell the story, it tells me that you have not learned enough from your story, and should not be in a position of power in the government.
William-1802685, I saw the whole video, watched it on youtube. Sure she had a point that she learned a lesson. But when she uses terms like "them" or "one of his own kind" to me that is racist. If I saw a white government official telling a story and saying that they sent a black person to see one of their own kind, I would find that offensive and racist.
I try to be as color neutral as I can. I get on my mother everytime she talks about going to the store or where ever and talking about something and saying something like "a black lady in line". I push her and ask here why it matters that the lady was black? Why not just "a lady in line".
CPCU... Quote"First the NAACP never said the Tea Party was racist they stated that the blatant racist comments from some of their members should be called out."
Haven't you learned anything from Sherrod? It doesn't take a direct accusation to be convicted of racism, only an association. The NAACP made a formal organized association between racism, and the Tea Party. That's like saying America should call out racists, or the NAACP should call out all racists, or the democrats should call out all racists within their respective organizations. It insinuates the Tea Party is Racist tolerant, which it is not, and never has been. You buy it though, like all the other sheople forming an opinion without facts. It is so subtle, that you actually defend a useless statement like the NAACP made AGAINST the Tea Party. It's like me telling you to root all the racism out in your family, and making that declaration on public broadcast. It's pointless, but politically motivated. People would instantly associate your family with racism, even though you were never called a racist directly.
Dear Bob, Chunky...what rock did you just crawl out from under? Have you read ANY of the updated stories? Listened to ANY of the commentators who are talking about how the tape was edited? She DID help those farmers, and the wife of the farmer (who I believe has since passed away), has been all over the place talking about all that she did to help them. I can't even say that you only watch Faux news, because I think even THEY are starting to say that he tape was taken completely out of context. Unbelievable!
It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Well, I find two major things wrong with this story and situation. First, everyone knows the NAACP is so anti white it is ridiculous. A perfect example, is the Obama administration. NAACP called a black Missouri senator "not black enough" for having the audacity to challenge President Obama's policies and administration. Anyone disapproving of President Obama's Administration is automatically labeled as "a Racist" by the NAACP and Obama Supporters.
In their opinion, it is impossible to dislike or disagree with President Obama due to his policy, out of control national spending, or disrespect of the Constitution; therefore, any disapproval of the man "MUST BE BECAUSE HE IS BLACK." (A) How convenient everyone forgets Obama has a WHITE mother and grandparents. (B) This old "Racist" diatribe is wearing thin from those who can't properly defend President Obama's obvious political shortcomings; and bad policy decisions.
Which is why I find this situation both hilarious and sad. Ms. Sherrod was relating an epiphany she faced regarding "Reverse White Discrimination"; the object of the story was the realization that racial profiling isn't just against "blacks". It's also "blacks" discrimination against "whites". I saw this as a huge step forward by Ms. Sherrod in eliminating this issue. Not to mention the subjects of this story were 23 years ago.
However, we now have the NAACP and Obama Administration, decrying this public servant as a "Racist", due to her honesty; and demanding her resignation. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH, NAACP AND PRESIDENT OBAMA.
You can't cry wolf, when your the wolf yourself!
thought you meant Fox News was racist. as it clearly proved it was.. that is Faux news fake journalism
She was forced "resign" ? - She should have stood on her alleged principals.
Peed off Peon,
The woman was in the midst of something like a 4 hour drive back to her office. While she was trying to get back her superiors (Cheryl Cook an Obama assassin) kept calling her repeatly demanding that she resign. She kept telling them she was still many hours out from the office. Finally, they called her and told her that "the White House demands that she pull over and submit her resignation on her Blackberry." She then complied. This happened while the woman was driving on the interstate no less. That is outrageous! That woman could have had an accident and been killed with all the distraction of them harassing her to resign while she was driving over a long distance. They didn't care though. That is who and what you have for President.
It appears that this administration considers a person guilty until proven innocent. The exact opposite of what it should have been.
As we continue to beat the same points into the ground, CNN just announced that they are going to play Ms Sherrod's statements in their entirety.
With that said, and this is to no one in particular, you all had to know this was going to happen sooner or later. There is a network with one set agenda, that they push to the nth degree. There has been charge after charge they they tell half truths and participate in what can be call outright fabrications, under the guise of "journalism". With this in mind, it had to be clear to someone that eventually someone was going to get hurt in all this, either literally or figuratively. This time it happened to be a woman who's life's work was called into question. Who will be next? What is it going to take before people start demanding the nonsence stop?
When the NAACP called to the leadership of the Tea Party movement to bounce those that are racist, they were calling out any particular members and subjecting them to abuse, yet that is what was done in this case. A long standing member of the NAACP, Shirley Sherrod was personally targeted for ridicule. Someone had to know that she was likely to lose her livihood, yet apparently, no one seemed to care. All this to try and prove that the NAACP is as racist as they say some members of the Tea Party are? Did something get proven here? Yes! That even the NAACP can be hoodwinked into believing something that was not true about one of their own members!
I hope the folks at Faux News are very pleased with themselves, and I am still waiting for our POTUS to do the right thing and give this woman back her dignity. Something I am sure Faux News would never bother to do! And congratulations to CNN for staying on top of this story, and allowing Ms. Sherrod time to give her side of the story!
t is sad when someone is injured because of the medias rush to judgement. I have no idea if Fox set this whole thing up or not, but it does clarify the nature of the beast. The beast being the naacps wanton disregard for the truth before branding someone a racist. This kind of reminds us of the sharpton tawana brawley episode so many years ago. It is sad that the naacp caused so much damage to one of their own but they do this same sort of filth to white people to. So...anyone wanna stand behind the naacp on this one. Also...how does it feel. I am sure this is a good and decent woman that was smeared by the naacp and obama long before they even decided to try to find out what the facts were. I can guarantee you this...if it had been a white woman the naacp would not care what the truth was...how does it feel?
mybestfriend, leave the stereotypes somewhere else. Smearing an entire race is a waste of everyone's time. You're suspended for a day for violating #5 of the Code of Honor.
Jim in Auburn
bsbfankaren, I was not twisting and using your words when saying things like "them" and "one of her kind". I was using her words. When people say things like that, I find them racist. So if you are telling a story and you use phrases like that, I find it racist. Does not matter what the story is about or what you learned in the end, when you use terms like that to tell the story, it tells me that you have not learned enough from your story, and should not be in a position of power in the government.
Jim, I no longer care to change your mind. If you want to believe that Ms. Sherrod is "racist" then go right on ahead and believe it. I have posted into my fingers have turned blue, so to speak. There are a few folks on here who have surprised me and posted that they undersand what Ms. Sherrod was trying to say, I just wish those folks had posted more.
Regardless. I hope you will take the time to watch and listed to Ms. Sherrod's entire speach. If not, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and whether or not I disagree with you, I have the utmost respect for that right!
bsbfankaren you have completely missed Jim's point - I suspect because you realize how racist some of the comments Ms. Sharrod made actually were, but that would make your soapbox argument less effective. What Jim was saying, and which I completely agree with, is that Ms. Sherrod's comments of referring to the white farmer as "them" and taking the farmer to one of "their kind" to the cheers of the NAACP crowd is shockingly racist. The racism she is displaying is her divisive terminology of insisting on referring to whites as "them" and that even now 24 years later she still disusses her relationships with people of other colors in terms of Us vs. Them.
So, I challange you to answer this: If I said I was a white woman and worked for a financial aid group and a black man came in asking for assistance, and I described him to you as being uppity and superior to me in that ghetto pride black kinda way and all I could think of was all of the better white people who could use the financial assistance instead of him, so I took him to a black accountant instead of a white one because I figured I would just let his own kind take care of his problem. But then I later thought that maybe I should help him afterall because even though he was just a black man and didn't really deserve any help from me because I was a white woman, that I would be magnanimous and not think about his race and would only think about his financial position.
Does that sound just a wee bit racist to you? I know that in Sherrod's mind she was trying to make a teaching moment out of it but that's like saying "You shouldn't be racist against (n-word). You should treat (n-word), (derrogative hispanic word)s, (derrogative asian word) and (derrogative anti-sematic word) the same as white people." Your purported point may not be racist, but the means in which you expressed it certainly is!
bsbfankaren...
"All this to try and prove that the NAACP is as racist as they say some members of the Tea Party are?"
It's probably more to show how easily EVERYONE can be fooled by the media. The burden of proof is just that, a burden, but certainly not an obstacle for political character defamation.
"When the NAACP called to the leadership of the Tea Party movement to bounce those that are racist, they were calling out any particular members and subjecting them to abuse"
The ploy there was simple. The Tea Party does not have leadership. Who were they pointing to? No where. Association is the goal, because that's all it takes to destroy a person, or a group. We are holding politicians accountable, and we are making a difference in election results. That has political weight, and politicians don't like the political variable which they can't account for. They have no control over the Tea Party, so they go for the divide, and try to isolate it as a radical group of biggots and race mongers. We aren't, never have been, and never will be. Although the Tea Party is not democrat, or republican, or any specific party, it does tend to go against the policies of liberal democrats. That's the core problem for the democrats, which is why democrats, and democratic organizations (like the NAACP) try to discredit it as a whole. If it earns the credibility by the american people that it really deserves, politicians will lose elections. That scares them. Make no mistake about it though, we are not affiliated with a particular party, and ANY politician that proves corrupt, will be called to the table. We are simply working class American citizens excersizing our right and obligations in the political process.
Get The Point banned, out of chances.
coleslaw1
bsbfankaren you have completely missed Jim's point - I suspect because you realize how racist some of the comments Ms. Sharrod made actually were...
Excuse me? Who the heck fire are you to tell me that I missed someones point? I agreed to disagree with Jim, something you seemed to have missed in your desire to somehow convince me on something that you never will. Shirley Sherrod's remarks in their entirety were not racist in nature. However, you like Jim, are not going to agree with me, and that is your prerogative.
I am sitting here watching the speech portion by portion, and looking at how this all unfolded, and I am still left to wonder when, when people are going to realize that a woman's livelihood was thrown under the bus, in an attempt to prove that the NAACP is somehow racist, all because the President of the organization asked the powers that be in the Tea Party movement to call out those in their organization that are racist! What ever happened to behaving like adults? Everyone in their right mind has seen the reports of people at Tea Party rallies with signs that are clearly bigoted and racist. Rather than admitting to and challenging those people, Faux News and Andrew Brietbart made the decision to try and hurt one woman, in order to uncover something larger?
Why can't the folks in charge stand up and admit that they screwed up here, and let us all move on? Instead Shirley Sherrod is being vaulted to sainthood! Hope you all are happy!
Andrew Brietbart. Remember the name. Google the name. This guy needs to explain his actions fully, and needs to be called out by his buddies at Faux News, before this day is out!
"God helped me to see, it's not just about Black people, it's about poor people". "I have come to realize, we have to work together...we have to work to overcome the difference that we have."
This is one truly beautiful woman, and I think as the days go by, we are going to find out just how beautiful!
babfankaren, you must be a politician because that was quite the dodge and redirect. You very obviously didn't respond to my original question and completely ignored the point of both my post and Jim's post. As we say in litigation, "If the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. If the law is on your side, pound on the law. If neither the facts or the law are on your side, pound on the podium so you distract them!" Your podium is about to collapse from your pounding. The NAACP's reaction is pathetic and pandering. The USDA's reaction and the manner of firing of Sherrod is disgusting and cowardly. The Obama administration's flip flopping around on their position is downright moronic. Briebart's clip editing was misguided and inappropriate because Sharrod did not deserve this. While I still believe she is strongly racist, her comments and tone were certainly not enough to warrant this kind of witch hunt. But how on earth can you blame the Tea Party or conservatives for this. THEY did not call her "shameful" and fire her - the NAACP and the Obama Democratic administration did! It is so pathetic how people like you will whirlwind spin the bad actions of the very groups you support and somehow blame others for it.
Oh, and good luck actually finding anything to support your spurious claim that any of the people who were carrying those alleged racist signs you claim were being held by Tea Partiers were actually being held by Tea Partiers - as opposed to people such a you who would show up at a Tea Party rally with fake signs then have your friends take pictures of you and post them on the web to support your manufactured controversy. The funny part is people like you actually believe that after you manufacture a fake controversy that it somehow becomes a real one. Enjoy the green sky in your world.
coleslaw, I am not sure what point you are trying to make here, that you think I am some how going to agree with? Don't you think you have something better to do with your words?
As for the signs you say I can't prove? Fine, I can't. I know what I saw, but I don't know if they were held by Tea Partiers or people that just felt the need to be at a Tea Party rally, on that particular day, holding those particular signs. Huh! Sort of like you trying to prove that I missed something in a statement that didn't even come from you. I also never that the Tea Party fired Ms. Sherrod, but I do know, based on research on the web, taht Andrew Brietbart is a Tea Party operative. So while the Tea Party did not fire her, one of the people that sympathizes with the movement, was in fact instramental in what is happening to her now
So I suppose you and I both are making rather "spurious" statements here!
Actually babfankaren, I am willing to listen to your side and would be open to hearing about improper racist signs at Tea Party rallies so that we can stop them and make a change. But I can't seem to find any actually racist signs other than the one held by some idiot in Houston in Feb 2009 (18 mos ago) where he and his sign were promptly kicked out and booed. So in an effort to further a productive discussion of this issue, please post a couple of examples of these racist signs and where they were displayed by actual Tea Partiers. Oh, and the ones like "Don't tax me bro" and "Monkey see, monkey spend" are NOT racist - the first is a pop culture reference about a statement originally made by a half stoned white college student and the other is a colloquial saying that is more than 300 years old and likely originated out of a folk tale about doing something without thinking of its consequences.
And coleslaw. While I think you are looking for an argument and having a fun time duing it, I am not all that interested in playing. Please find someone else to respond to.
However, since you don't see "Monkey see, monkey spend" as at all racist, even though you and I both know that that particular animal is often associated with Black people, I am going to have to do some research for you, when I get the chance. Rachel Maddow's blog had the name of the book that had the signs in it, so I will have to look it up, and get back to you.
coleslaw, with the understanding that it is obviously a matter of opinion what is or is not racist, here are some I found:
http://mokellyreport.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/tea-party-and-racism-lovers-and-friends-part-ii/
http://mokellyreport.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/tea-party-racist-signs-07-white-slavery.jpg
Of course then there is referring to Obama as a "welfare thug":
http://theloop21.com/news/teaparty-leaders-calls-obama-welfare-thug
And there was something I remember from Michelle Bachman, but I truly don't care enough at the moment to look it up.
Hope that helped, coleslaw.
LOL, well bsbfankaren, we clearly have a difference in opinion as to what is racist. First, the pun "monkey see, monkey spend" has absolutely no racial undertones to anyone without a giant unfettered chip on their shoulder. The rest of us read it as a comment on how the president is spending tax dollars without considering the consequences of what such spending will be. Can you imagine if any time the word monkey was included it meant some kind of racial disparagement - there would go any reference to a monkey wrench, or monkeying around, or monkey business! As for the website your provided, the first one depicts Obama as a witch doctor as a commentary that his health plan will end up reverting our quality medicine to subpar medical care; the second and third ones are a bit distasteful butcertainly no more offensive than the Mo' Kelly website you yourself directed me to depicting a hideous stereotype of a black man with an afro and fistfulls of cash; the fourth and fifth ones are not racist in any manner since one only calls Obama a lying (race neutral opinion) African (he himself has embraced his African heritage) and the other only makes reference to him being an idiot (race neutral opinion) and being from Kenya (again something he has embraced); the sixth one is racist and offensive and if I am at any Tea Party in the future I will do all in my power to have that person thrown out publicly. As for the remaining few, they are comments about his supposedly being a muslim not black, so while there may be religious prejudice there, it is not racism. The last one appears to be something posted to a telephone pole, not a sign at a Tea Party rally. As for the comment about Obama being a welfare thug - exactly what part of that is racist?? Is it the welfare part - because that is a factual reference since Obama has expanded the welfare program and redirected a lot of tax dollars into the welfare program. But saying the word welfare is not racist because there are people of all colors on welfare. Is it the thug part? I guess I didn't know that calling someone a thug was the same as calling them some horrible slur like the n-word. Seems to me that thug is pretty race neutral. So, I don't see your point that those two signs out of the thousands at the thousands of Tea Party rallies mean those rallies are filled with racist sign toting antagonists or that the Tea Party is not doing anything to discourage racism in its ranks. Maybe you should pay a little closer attention to the racism you see, because I think you are looking in a mirror. Good luck!
Funny I'm white and I see racial undertones. It obvious! Why even use an ignorant slanted remark or phrase and try to call it an analogy. That by itself is ignorance. Espeacially on this thread or while referring observation of the president?
An analogy is similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based.
mybestfriend is a straight jacket.
Roflmao thank my lucky stars for weed.
coleslaw1
LOL, well bsbfankaren, we clearly have a difference in opinion as to what is racist.
I need to apologize. I fell right into you getting me to go off topic into what I consider racist, and what "monkey see, monkey do" means, and I should not have fallen for it. I am tired, and this whole subject has taken far more out of me then I expected today.
I am not about to debate what is or is not "racist" with you. If you and I were face to face, perhaps. If this forum was about racism, perhaps. However, this is about what Andrew Breitbart, Faux News, and even the more liberal media did to try and ruin the reputation of a woman who none of them even knew, as probable retaliation for statements the NAACP made last week. Let me be clear here, it was not my statement, but was the NAACP's statement. If you need someone to break it down for you and provide proof, ask Ben Jealous, not me.
I will stand up every day to say that Shirley Sherrod got a damn bum deal in all of this, and I hope, hope that Obama himself will stand up and apologize to her.
In closing, if you want to continue to debate Shirley Sherrod's statements, I am with you. Otherwise, find someone else to play with.
bsbfankaren
Ms. Sherrod said the undersecretary of the USDA told her THE WHITE HOUSE WANTS HER TO RESIGN. In fact, Ms. Sherrod described this undersecretary's four calls as harrassing. On the last call, the undersecretary told her to pull to the side of the road and submit her resignation on her blackberry.
Ms. Sherrod said this on numerous occasions on CNN. I heard her myself and unlike other people, I do not post lies or inaccuracies.
Karen, yes I heard that as well. Yet, Ms Sherrod has still said on CNN, MSNBC, and NBC, that the underscretary never told her who she spoke to at the White House. This leaves two options: a) the undersecretary lied or b) as the Secretary of the USDA said there is a liason they work with who might have been the one the Undersecretary was referring to.
What the truth is exactly, there is no way to know, unless someone allows the actually undersecretary to speak for herself. Also, I am no saying that you lied, only that even you say that Ms. Sherrod didn't actually speak to whomever it was at the White House that is being referred to. Therefore, we are both telling the truth.
Just goes to Prove that if your a person of color you can say any Damn Fool thing you want to and get away with it.
and heres another thing
Its Racist
Its Racist
Its Racist
Boo F*cking Whoo cry me a freaking River
I am so sick and tired of hearing that crap no matter who is saying it!!!
We are human beings its about time we started Being human to each other!!
bsbfankaren - post 4.150,
I see where you are going with your comment, and your wrong....In no other country on this earth are people referred to as we refer to people in such a politically-correct BS manner...I'm a 1st generation American who wants to be referred to as an American and not some compound description of my ethic background...
Here's an example...The Jewish have dual citizenship to both the US and Israel...so depending on where the are located geographically, does that affect this reference...
Israeli-American or American-Israeli....
I know it sounds silly, but so are all these BS compound references...
Meh...
Some people take great pride in their 'BS compound descriptions'. Like a great red badge of courage. From what I can tell, their heritage defines them as a person to some degree, and as such, from their perspective, they take great pride in their individuality and independence from the great masses that goes along with just being referred to as 'American'.
I think that they feel that they are more than just 'American', and it shows their Independence.
Others show their independant and individual side in other ways. Is how we define who we are as individuals any less important than how we define what we are as individuals?
Why would someone showing their Independence, bother others, in America? Politics?
Zaphod - if, as you say, people use compound descriptions because they are so proud of their heritage, why do you never hear anyone refer to themselves as Kenyan-American or Egyptian-American? It is always African-American, considering Africa is a continent made up of many countries, all with very different heritages and traditions, I find it hard to believe it really has anything to do with pride or courage, especially when you consider how many of these people have no idea what culture, heritage or traditions they should follow and will actually harass and make fun of those in our country that do truly embrace their heritage, religion and culture.
Zaphod....
I completely agree that you should be proud of your heritage...It's has a lot to do with the person you become....However, the problem I have with some of these terms are with their associated expectations. Case in point, if I do not refer to an individual in these terms, I'm immediately labelled a bigot...simply because I do not use these compound terms...
I have no problem with people taking pride in their heritage, the problem I have is having it force fed down my throat...
My guess here is that YOU do not hang around many people from Kenya, or Egypt.
North... AMERICA... continent...
South AFRICA... country...
That is a possibility I put forward, I by no means was attempting to speak for individuals and their actual reasons.
Being an independant individual takes both... being a sheep and walking with the crowd does not.
So you know who they are, better than they do?
WOW
Sounds like their problem, not yours.
I call people by their names, if they want to be called things like Jamal the Congo-American, and are not happy with me calling them just Jamal, that is on them, IMHO.
Do you ofter try to refer to people by where they are from? If yes, that my be why they leap to the 'bigot' conclusion so quickly. If I were to refer to people by their heritage, then I guess they would be within their full rights to correct me if I'm wrong, or if they prefer something else.
Is it you focusing on their heritage, or them bringing it into play? If it is you, then I can see where the perception of bigotry would come from.
I actually work with a lot of people from Kenya, Somalia and Ethiopia and they all consider themselves Kenyan, Somalian and Ethiopian, not Kenyan-American, every single one of these people hold their personal heritage and religion very high. However, my comment was in regards to those that call themselves African-American. And yes, North America is a continent, but people do not refer to themselves as North American, those in the United States of America refer to themselves as American. As for South Africa being a country, people from there refer to themselves as South African, not just African.
As for knowing them better than they know themselves, I didn't say that. I do however, have the experience of working with many "African-Americans," who by the way have never stepped foot in Africa, nor have their parents, (at least not the ones I have worked with) as well as many first generation immigrants. The "African-Americans" are constantly making fun of the way the women dress (traditionally), trying to convince them to eat pork(which is against their culture), and trying to get them to drink (again, this is against their culture), so no, I do not know them better than they know themselves, but I have witnessed these behaviors for the past 13 years.
Basic human instinct is to fit in... be accepted.
History teaches us that those that stand out, those that are not like everyone else, get singled out for ridicule, or worse.
The fist step to justify genocide is to show how those humans, were not really humans, because they are in some way... different! Dehumanize them.
It is also human nature to want to feel superior in some way! How do define said superiority, if often done by, finding differences.
I can see where focusing on how someone is... different, can put people on edge, and make them question the motives behind said focus.
Now, read or remember the Dr. Sues book, the Sneetches... and with that in mind, step back and watch our 2 major political parties communicate with the American public for a week.
My guess is, IF people can disconnect from the political programming and partisan rhetoric, they will find it amusing, and sad.
Those with stars on thars, are the only REAL Americans...
Zaphod...
Point taken and I too refer to people by name. However, I don't generally get to a point where I would need to figure out their nationality.
Perhaps I'm a bit bull-headed by refusing to refer to people in that manner because of my personal views of these politically-correct terms. I'm sure it does, however, don't believe there should be an expectation. Speaking to and treating people with respect should be enough
I am failing to see how this has anything to do with what I wrote. In fact, those that I work with who are actually from Africa, whether it be Somalia, Ethiopia or any of the other countries, are trying to remain true to themselves, in fact, be individuals, and those from here are trying to force them to fall in line with American society so to speak.
As for the assertion of political programming and partisan rhetoric, I personally don't buy into any specific party line. I tend to be conservative, but that does not mean I vote republican. I look at the issues and I support which ever candidate I believe will govern the closest to my personal beliefs, not which party generally is closest to my beliefs.
I personally do find the ads put out by candidates to be amusing, one particular comes to mind, my state has a candidate running for governor who claims he is going to increase funding to education, but in the next breath says he will get rid of "No Child Left Behind." Of course the only way to do that would be to forego huge sums of federal money, so I can't really see how he will increase funding. What people need to do is look between the lines of what candidates are saying and do a little research, find out if what they are saying can actually be done and look at any track record they have. But this is a complete digression from the topic at hand so I am going to stop.
I thought that was a religous thing.... not a cultural thing. are all 'African Americans" muslims now? I'm not sure I follow the logic here. They are trying to share their American culture with others?
Good for them! When I'm overseas, I'm still an American!
Guess those that have never stepped foot in Africa, still want to connect with their roots, and hence choose African-American, as they are American, but their roots are from somewhere Africa, while the one you describe as being from kenya, call them selves Kenyans!
It does not sound unreasonable to me... I'd still just call them by their names..
Sounds like we agree on this 100%.
The not eating pork is actually a cultural thing, there are many from Somalia and Ethiopia that are Christian but they still don't eat pork.
And no, they are not trying to share their American culture with them, they are trying to force them out of their comfort zone.
As far as wanting to connect with their roots, it is entirely possible, then again, many do it simply to continue seperating themselves from others. My ancestors are from France, Germany and Ireland, when asked what my heritage is I proudly admit where my ancestors are from, however, I do not refer to myself as European-American, I am just American. I just can't see why those with African heritage cannot do the same. We can see the color of your skin, we know you have ancestry from Africa, there is no shame in that and no reason not to be proud of it, but why not also be proud to just be American?
And not that it matters, but I do just call people by their names, when speaking to anyone I certainly do not say "Hi Ethiopian Amana," I simply say "Hi Amana."
Learn something new every day. thanks for the education! I've always thought that particular oddity was of religious origins, not regional.
That sounds like you are attempting to speak from them to me. Could the reality be that it is pushing YOU out of your comfort zone?
Stars on thars!
yet, those from Kenya, look like people from Kenya, and hence, call themselves Kenyans!
Let's flip it... Lets say you moved to Kenya, to live there. Had kids even... Do you think it is possible that those kids would want to be accepted by those where they live, and call themselves Kenyans, while not looking anything like most of the native Kenyans, at the same time want to honor their American heritage, and explain the appearance differences?
IMHO, that is the way it should be.
I am going to go out on a limb and assume it probably started as a religious thing and once the Christian religion was brought to these regions this particular habit was maintained. I don't know that for sure, but I would think it is probably where it started seeing as this is a tendency of all Muslims but not of all Christians.
Why would one person continually trying to get someone to do something they have repeatedly told them they do not want to do because it goes against their culture make me uncomfortable? It makes me mad for those being pressured to do something, much the same way seeing a playground bully would make me mad, but no it does not make me uncomfortable. In fact, in such cases I generally tell the one doing the bullying to leave the other person alone.
And if people were in fact to refer to themselves as Kenyan-American, I would be accepting of that, but that is not what I am referring to. I am referring to those who refer to themselves as African-American, those who seem to have no desire to honor their ancestors culture, those who simply choose to refer to themselves in a manner to deliberately point out that there is a difference between themselves and you with no motive other than to point out the blatantly obvious.
And once again, if they were to refer to themselves as Kenyan-Americans, or rather American-Kenyan I would be understanding of that as they are trying to pay tribute to both their native born country and their ancestry, but that is not what my statement was about. This is similar to Americans referring to anyone from Japan, China, Cambodia, et al as Asian, but no one from any of these countries refers to themselves this way, and in fact, they will generally correct you if you refer to them in this manner. Just as any native born "African" will.
Which actually begs the question, why is it only people from the "Oriental" countries that Americans refer to as "Asian?" Russia is also in Asia yet no one lumps them into this category. Sorry, that was a random thought and doesn't really pertain to anything.
I was thinking a tribe died from eating under cooked pork, and those that did not eat it, lived.. but meh, it is all speculation, your guess is as good, if not better, than mine!
same reason all people of a darker color are referred to as African? Brown = Mexican?
Best guess... Appearances.... coupled with apathy and lazy.
If every one was going to call you X would you not attempt to OWN X and define it in your way?
Once again, you are leaving out the part of the story that this occurred while Sherrod worked at a Black Farmers Co-op in 1986. This is NOT something that occurred while she had a position of power at the USDA. PLEASE Do some research into the complete story and report the FULL STORY not just the sensationalized portions. And from what Ms. Sherrod said, she saw the error of her ways, and she is now friends with that SAME Farmer and his wife. PLEASE REPORT ON THAT TOO. DO not just report on the part of the story that will incite race baiters.
Did you also beg the media to report that Reps. Andre Carson and John Lewis and other Congressional Black Caucus members visciously lied about the supposed racial attacks made during a tea party demonstration outside the Capitol Building? Where were you then?
Does it make a difference where she worked at the time. She made the comments and did it infront of the NAACP. How much does that show exactly what the NAACP will sand and will not stand for. There suppose to be a group helping but instead the only thing they helped was giving themselves a good laugh and tarnishing there name even further.
Perhaps Jesse Jackson should give a speech live on how wrong she was and how wrong he is for trashing the DUke teens that were accused of a rape that never happened. How much money did all those families lose in that case in trial fee's. How much did Jackson sit there and play along with it. Those kids had there reputation tarnished over lies.
Jesse Jackson is a worthless piece of @!$%# and he knows that. His statements about how he would like to cut Obama's balls off even furthered what a useless piece of @!$%# he is especially calling himself a man of god and being a preacher.....the pot calling the kettle black.
Funny how "everyone" is so concerned about reporting accuracy when it is showing that more than jsut white people can be racist. Showing white people as racists and everyone accepts the story as gospel as though it were dragged down the mountain on tablets.
Congrats to MSNBC??? HA! Did you watch the video clip? They play the racist USDA clip, and then their astute panel of experts (barf) immediately start talking about the Mark Williams / Tea Party Express story....... Uhhh, hello, do you idiots have nothing to say about the freaking video clip you just played???
It's also nice of MSNBC to leave out another little tidbit.... All you "FAUX NEWS" haters might want to ask why your fair and balanced MSNBC decided to do that. Here's a snip:
"In a second clip from the same event posted online, Sherrod appeared to urge black job seekers to find work at the Department of Agriculture because the federal government won't lay people off.
"There are jobs at USDA and many times there are no people of color to fill those jobs because we shy away from agriculture. We hear the word agriculture and think, why are we working in the fields?" she said. "You've heard of a lot of layoffs. Have you heard of anybody in the federal government losing their job? That's all I need to say.""
Yea right, getting caught makes you do a turn around most of the time. The NAACP, as I said is a racist organization. PERIOD!
oh yea, I saw that also! morning joe.
Need we say more regarding the liberal mentality when it comes to how they view government?
People do not care. She is black, Obama is black-there you have it.
peggy/florida,
Do you remember the video clips of the Rodney King beating in Los Angeles ? Pretty strong images. Do you remember how the lamestream media reported this ?? Does anyone ???
That's right......they pulled out video clips of the racial turmoil in Birmingham, AL from about 1962 or 1963. They didn't want to make a "blue" state like California look bad. Why focus on the true story when you can turn people's attention elsewhere ????
Whatever dude, like pub's don't view it that way at all lol, step away from the koolaid!
An organization that received public funds may as well be a government organization. Nice try. You are basically an apologist for racism.
Pirate....why report the whole story.....the mainstream media doesn't. Boy, if this were a tea partier the libs would be ranting and raving on here calling them ALL racist. But then again, that is the ONLY card they know how to play.
Then why was she bragging about not doing all that she could do because "he was superior"? She obviously had some power and she wielded it, no matter how much or how little. But the bottom line is not about her level of power but about her racism.
She may have seen the error of her ways but she did nothing to make amends. She SAYS she is friends with the farmer and his wife but do they call her a friend? If so, will they still consider her a friend now that this has aired?
Piratewench, AKA racist apologist, does not seem to understand that actions taken after realising she did this in public on tape is not the issue here, overt RACISM is. There is no way of knowing if these actions were taken out of guilt or to counter future backlash. Regardless, it has nothing do do with the fact that she is a racist.
@Piratewench: You should take your own advice. The part of the story where she was part of the Black Farmers Co-Op was what she refered to when she talked about seeing "Black" farms being taken away. Her interaction with the caucasian farmer was while implimenting federal plans to help farmers while she was in the Department of Agreculture. Please don't try to play off her statement to try and make yourself look good. There are a lot of racists coming out since everyone seems to be 'extra sensative' these days. Can't wait to get back to the old days when you could call the ugly baby and ugly baby instead of just smiling at their parents like we're idiots. We have to face it, as a nation, our kids are getting fat, our laws are getting diluted, our criminals live in luxury at tax payers expence, and our politicians are currupt. want to keep kids safe? take away their PS3s and XBox360s and kick their lazy butts outside to play. Maybe some of the parents should go with them, mabe the kids will pick up on some "family values" instead of picking up a gun cause they joined a gang. But that would require actually trying and most parents can't put more effort into raising their kids other than popping them out and leaching off the government and then wondering why we have a budget problem. Lets get serious everyone is a racist in their own right. there is always something about someone, whether you know them or not, that you will always assume when you see them. Just because i believe that all illegals should be shipped back at the country of origin's expence doesn't mean i'm racist. The idea is unrealistic from a foriegn policy point of view but so what. just because it's what i believe doesn't mean i don't like hispanics and i don't automatically assume every spanish speaking person i run into jumped a fence or swam a river to get here. I shouldn't have to worry about those things, the government should be policing that issue so i don't have to. but then again, that would be profiling to ask anyone to see an ID or require proof of citizenship to vote. What kind of country have we turned into when we care more about what people, that aren't suppose to be here, think about what's fair and just. Lets keep up the good work. find all the racist in politics and government possitions. all you'll get are more of the same filling their spots with a better idea of what not to do.
the thinker
Why don't you track them down and ask them, if they what to be friends with her?
instead of speculating, ask for the farmer and his wife's name and while your at it ask them was their problem ever solved.
Yep, when the shoes all of a suddenly gets put on the other feet people can't walk in them.
Why don't all you haters take your own ADVICE and GET OVER IT. Who knows maybe they are Christan's and do forgive her.
Just like Blacks are EXPECTED to DO GET OVER IT!.... WOW payback isn't always pleasant!
Black Knight---so glad you said that!
Because time does not fix RACISM....read about yourself if you can.
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Big Government should probably go ahead and post the whole video. Racism is not dead in this country and needs to be addressed. But flaring it up in this way is so not going to help:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/07/20/in-the-curious-case-of-shirley-sherrod-lets-see-the-whole-tape/?cxntfid=blogs_jay_bookman_blog
Awed ans Amazed.
Forget about BLOGS, go to a REAL institution's web site Like Yale University.
You consider their information credible wouldn't you?
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
pirate wench the racism was not in the womans story, the real racism was how the audience of naacp members approved of her racist behaviour before they knew the 'happy' ending.
And you, Piratewench, are also skipping the facts. She made these comments to a gathering of the NAACP in MARCH 2010. Those who write that the NAACP comdemned the remarks when they heard about them are not being honest. Based upon this tape, the NAACP seemed to laugh at the remarks when they first heard them! It's sad that the NAACP is now just a bunch of racists....
So her laughing about it in front of an appreciative audience matters not at all? because it all happened soo long ago ...she feels bad...but uses it as a good example...oh, and laughs about it???? wake up to your nonsense please!
I know piratewrench, there is too much hatred being fed by the threads here on the vine. Many here will not address in their minds why there was a "civil rights' movement and the NAACP in the first place, because blacks courageously stood up for their rights and to have a voice 50-60 years ago. I have seen "white only" water fountains and bathrooms. I was a very young child and I cannot begin to express what I felt inside. Times have changed because of the goodness and justic seeking white people and the persistent courage of black people that WORKED TOGETHER over the decades. It is now the 21st century and, sad to say, because of the internet we can spew hatred without repercussions. None can move forward blaming the other race. The Gov't official was wrong for what she did, no question. I would never make excuses for her. I sincerely hope that she has seen the error of her way. I cannot begin to tell the many times that I have been discriminated against because of my color. Would it not be stupid of me to hate all people of another race because of it? Never may that happen! Why the insults because one does not agree with your point of view? Get out of the attack mode. Quite biting one another for fear that you will annihilate one another. If you dont do it physically, you can do it emotionally and spiritually.
Racism and discrimination exists, none of us can deny it. If you put corn in your shopping cart over carrots for whatever reason, you are discriminating against carrots. Racism isn’t as easy to explain, or as easy to get past. I did read in the article properly, this meeting took place in 2010 and the way the incident was described as if it were recent too. [I can’t view the recording where I am at, so I can’t view this woman’s reaction to how her audience responded to her comments midway in her speech] I feel it was wrong of her to resign, since she was trying to get the point across to her audience that she had moved beyond those feelings of discrimination in her story, even back then. It was her recent audience that needs to feel justice, not her. Is the NAACP a racist organization … you can take the fact they are to the bank! If they were not a racist organization, they wouldn’t be focused only on people of color, they would be a National Organization for the Abolition of Racism [Period].
OMG. The issue is that she admitted that she emotionally struggled to help a white farmer whom she perceived to be acting racist towards her -- never mind the fact that the government at that time was being systematically racist toward all black farmers.
Was she a fool for honestly admitting the truth? I do not think so, because I can relate!
In my lifetime I have dealt with several abusive customers but, like Shirley Sherrod, I treated them all professionally! I can honestly state that I never spat in the food of any customer, gave substandard service to any customer, gave incorrect information to any customer, gave incomplete information to a customer, or withheld information from any customer.
Wow... what a snow job! FOX had the original video so edited that it goes without saying that the end product is a lie and a simple case of defamation of character! This is just a case of pay back for calling out the leadership of the Tea Party to ferret out racism in their own ranks (a modest request at best by the NAACP). The video in its entirety is about redemption, her introspection, self doubt and self questioning as to her own buried racism (her Father was killed by a Klansman). She saved the white farmer's farm and they are good friends to this very day. The white couple in question even appeared on TV on her behalf! FOX has never been and never will be about journalism - this is a political organization whose principal product is propaganda, half truths, misdirection, slanted polling data and out and out fabricated lies!!! If you want to see the video in its entirety you can see it on CNN and or MSNBC.
Nice try, but you are an effing imbecile, as the organization receives no such funds.
IAMPGA ...White is a color too and there are white people in the NAACP, are there any blacks in the KKK
I'm of European decent and after reading the story and what she actually said I don't think she was being prejudice by explaining how she felt 24 years ago, she should not have been fired for that. I have a wonderful African American Friend that is like my brother and once I asked him how it feels to be an African American and if he has felt prejudice. I told him I only felt that African Americans were prejudice against me once or twice but I had been with many others and felt they were my brothers and sisters the same with Native Americans, I know they have felt prejudice so they showed prejudice but not to me because I do not show any to them. I even know a few Hebrew people and they are nice brothers and sisters except I don't like war profiteering money controlling Zionists. Zionism is not a race or a religion but they control our fiat money and our weapons manufacture. It is what they do, not what they look like that I don't like, so there... If I try to explain a situation where there was racial tension does that make me racist? I hardly think solo. We are equal first and then we can discuss our diversity of experience and beauty as human beings.
Rick --
Hello? Do you know anything about human beings and their typical reactions? Can you put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute?
If so, you might imagine how a group of people who have struggled and fought against racism their entire lives might laugh with sardonic recognition in response to her story.
Racism is just bizarre to me.
I always get this mental image of german shepherds and collies in a vicious dog fight because they are not the same breed.
It's weird and ridiculous. If people can't find anything more significant to feel superior about than an accident of birth, they are in bad shape indeed.
Ok, I have read the article and all these comments, and I am really confused.
Was this woman forced to resign because she supposedly made racist comments or because she as a black woman helped a white family keep their farm while black families were losing theirs?
This seems to be a ploy to take the media attention off the White House, the oil spill, the nomination of Kagan to the Supreme Court and all the other failing policies of the Obama administration. Come on America, lets get the media back on track and force them to investigate and report on what really matters.
If Mrs. Sherrod is innocent of the claims and was forced to resign without justification, then the truth will win the day. If she is not innocent then justice has prevailed. I for one, will have to wait for all the facts, and determination of a lab if the tape was edited. I do wish her well as the media, NAACP and the White House have already declared her guilty and innocent in the same breath which seems to be the modus operandi of these groups.
^this, nevermind that when one listens to her entire speech (not just the cropped edited clip Breitbart posted) it's quite obvious that she's arguing AGAINST racism.
Yet another hitjob by Breitbart and Fox News, and they win without a fight because the rest of the media refuses to do their job.
Lesson of the day: If Andrew Breitbart says something, it's a lie.
"Yet another hitjob by Breitbart and Fox News, and they win without a fight because the rest of the media refuses to do their job.Lesson of the day: If Andrew Breitbart says something, it's a lie."
Do the NAACP and the Obama Administration not carry part of the blame as well? After all the speech was made at an NAACP event and they still wanted her ousted.
The point is that she should and did resign even though it occurred in the past . Media has a way of only seeking rarings. This story ended the way it should have.
I'm sure Obama has something lined up for her already.... He will take care of his own. He just won't look out for the majority of tax paying American citizens. That doesn't fit his agenda.
And how often does this happen where the person doesn't resign?
theresa
OK, so she resigned, why aren't you also upset at the Republicans in Congress holding up reparations to all the black and latino farmers discriminated against by the USDA in years past?
She resign after she was caught like Van Jones the communist green Czar Obama's nominee, there are many more racist liberal working with Obama that need to resign. Erick Holder should be next for drop the case of the New Black Panther.
Could it be because of all of the pork the democrats are trying to add to the bills?
The better question is: Did she refuse to help the farmer because of her perception of the delays in paying these reparations? She's a federal employee... if this is her reasoning then she is blaming the very same government that she represents. And I get the impression from the article that she knew in her heart that she was screwing this farmer while she was doing it and did it anyway.
She has no business holding a position of power. I'm sure she'll get hired by Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, she seems completely qualified to work for either of them. Congratulations, Sherrod just joined the ranks of David Duke.
solostar
That is the point. SHE resigned, she wasn't forced to like Tea Party Mark Williams.
She didn't try to make excuse for herself either. But the White Racist read right pasted that little tidbit.
She does deserve credit for resigning and not trying to JUSTIFY her actions.
You have no way of knowing if she was forced. It is common practice in government to ask for a resignation, you have no choice, and you save some face. It is still, in reality, a firing.
Wilberta,
She resigned because she was gonna be fired.. for 25 years she got away with her RACISM. how many more times did she use her position of power to commit acts of Racism?
you seem so willing to give her a pass.. Just like a liberal.
Steve,
You are so right. How long has she been wielding her "power" and how many more like her are in Washington. The NAACP really should change their name, or just admit they are racists. This administration is setting back race relations to the bad ole days of old. Obama wants to deny tax breaks to the rich (ie business owners, people who work smart and hard) and keep giving more of our tax dollars away to people waiting for the next government program. I do business with many small business owners. Sure, they make over $250 K per year, but they are not rich. Most of them work 16 hour days and don't get much time off. Yet the government wants to add additional tax burdens to these people. Obama is once again railing at the REPS for holding up the unemployment extension. How is it gonna be paid for???? Hey Obama, here's an idea...get off the backs of small business and then maybe unemployment will drop below 8% like you PROMISED!
Actually, CNN was interviewing her today and she said she received at least 4 calls asking for her resignation, she was forced to resign.
Funny how people with little intelligence think that people in high positions of authority say racist comments then "resign" lmao its called......"you're fired" do yourself a favor and resign before I fire you publicly,,,,wow,,,,even black people can be racists...always though that racism was white man's burden...
Well, at least Black Americans didn't own slaves, or lynched people like whites did for over 400 years.
And this is NOT racism:
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/07/20/shirley_sherrod_breitbart/index.html
Esam:
Hey, the number of blacks murdered by other blacks in almost any given, major US city in almost any given year is greater than the number of all of the blacks lynched during the history of the US. And BTW, you simpleton, more whites have been lynched in the US than have been blacks.
You see, lynching was frontier justice. It wasn't as though a gang of whites said, 'Hey, there's a black person, let's lynch him, because he's black.' Lynchings were mob justice against alleged perpetrators. This is why more whites were lynched by mobs than were blacks; there are and were far more whites than blacks in America.
Now, none of this makes lynching acceptable under any circumstance, but I just thought that you should know these facts.
Nope she was using the comment to tell them not to be racist as she hasd defeated the urge to become one. Your post was about 7 now we know what really happened.
No this story DID NOT end the way it should have. You must not have heard the real story and the full YouTube statement. First of all, she should never have been fired for her statements. Even before I heard the whole story I knew that, as she should not have to be degraded by anyone, white, black, purple and even before I heard the full story, she at least assisted him; had the shoe been on the other foot, he would not have assisted her AT ALL! Now, that I know the full story, she should be reinstated, apologized to and you who wrote this comment, need to do some serious soul searching. My husband who is white was immediately against this lady too, without knowing the facts; I on the other hand, without knowing the facts, knew that she should not be called a racist, as she should not have to cow-down to anyone, which she did and she helped him anyway, just not "to the fullest!" White Americans, NAACP, Obama administration (who by the way I support), need to do some serious repenting. NAACP and the Obama administration need to toughen up, and stop trying to please White America on every turn and many (not ALL)White Americans need to realize they are TRULY racist, and just do not have a clue about the love that black people have for ALL people, not to say that there are not black racist, but for the most part, black people have done nothing but try and assimilate and get along with White people, while White people dislike us, mistreat us, oppress us, discriminate against us on almost every chance they get, degrade us and just simply are not nice to us and of course NOT ALL White people, but a vast number of them. This women deserves an apology by every one and needs her job back if she wants it, and some more perks too!!!
Esam
They just sold them to the whites you didn't like that tribe you just tipped off the white slave traders where they were and they gave you a nice finders fee.
It is amazing how we place snippets on a website and call it Gospel. I applaud CNN and Anderson Cooper for showcasing the entire 45 minute version of the story. This is a story/situation that happened to her 25 years ago..well before she was a Government official. She was retelling how her racist attitude was reshaped after her chance encounter with the farmer. She was conveying what she felt, as wrong as it was, but that she knew what she was thinking/feeling/doing was wrong.
Racism is rampant, whether we are white, black, red, or green. We have developed a nation whose society puts more stock on difference, than our own commonality. We are all Human Beings FIRST with different levels of melanin in our skin.
We should be a bit ashamed for jumping to conclusions so quickly..Text without context is pretext...
Only in my own humble opinion..Blessings to everyone!!!
Wow... what a snow job! FOX had the original video so edited that it goes without saying that the end product is a lie and a simple case of defamation of character! This is just a case of pay back for calling out the leadership of the Tea Party to ferret out racism in their own ranks (a modest request at best by the NAACP). The video in its entirety is about redemption, her introspection, self doubt and self questioning as to her own buried racism (her Father was killed by a Klansman). She saved the white farmer's farm and they are good friends to this very day. The white couple in question even appeared on TV on her behalf! FOX has never been and never will be about journalism - this is a political organization whose principal product is propaganda, half truths, misdirection, slanted polling data and out and out fabricated lies!!! If you want to see the video in its entirety you can see it on CNN and or MSNBC.
Thanks Tank! :)
pirate wench the racism was not in the womans story, the real racism was how the audience of naacp members approved of her racist behaviour before they knew the 'happy' ending.
Another grasping at straws that are not there.
The point is that she should and did resign even though it occurred in the past . Media has a way of only seeking rarings. This story ended the way it should have.
Now when you realize the story was fake turn around and blame the NAACP and Obama for firing her. We promise not to use your above comment. You have been snookered by one of your heroes!
Esam:
Hey, the number of blacks murdered by other blacks in almost any given, major US city in almost any given year is greater than the number of all of the blacks lynched during the history of the US. And BTW, you simpleton, more whites have been lynched in the US than have been blacks.
You see, lynching was frontier justice. It wasn't as though a gang of whites said, 'Hey, there's a black person, let's lynch him, because he's black.' Lynchings were mob justice against alleged perpetrators. This is why more whites were lynched by mobs than were blacks; there are and were far more whites than blacks in America.
Now, none of this makes lynching acceptable under any circumstance, but I just thought that you should know these facts.
Wow - you're a moron. Lynching was "frontier justice"? As far as I know, the only frontier found in America in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s and 70's was in Alaska. Black people were lynched - or, more properly put, MURDERED in all areas of the US, in major cities and rural towns and on their own farms throughout the early to late part of the last century - though not in ALASKA. Even into the 90s if you'll recall the man who was dragged to death in South Texas. They weren't lynching white people in some bid for vigilante justice - they were lynching black people - for crimes that ranged in intensity between looking at a white woman and owning too much land. My father was well known for a time for having prosecuted the last slavery case in America - back in the 60s. Since then, however, there have been many slavery cases tried in our courts. Even a revisionist such as yourself would not have a hard time researching this stuff, and finding yourself wrong in every sense of the word. More whites have been lynched than blacks? LOL! I'd like to see those stats - did you pull them off of FOX news? Before you compile them though- please look up the word "lynch" - it has a different meaning than the word "hang".
Black on Black crime is a sad fact of and result of extreme poverty. There are a lot of factors that contribute to extreme poverty. Hopelessness, lack of opportunity, lack of education, drug abuse, joblessness, homelessness, a bad economy that hits the poorest of us first and hardest - family history of the same - all of it leads to crime and violence. Crime isn't an inately black trait, it is a trait directly linked to poverty though.
Trust me, you're very stupid, so if your great-grandparents were former slaves who worked hard all of their lives for other people for nothing, then got the opportunity to live free and make money, but then found that no one would pay them a fair wage and were forced to bring up your grand-parents in mind-blowing poverty, sending them to "separate but equal" schools until they were old enough to marry and start families of their own, (without hope of college - what college would let them in? How could they afford it one did?) and raise their children in a segregated, hostile white world. So now we have made it to your parents, who might have lived through the busing riots of the 70s, or maybe they were one of the brave few who walked through a guantlet of rioting white people so that they could attend high school. Maybe they were able to attend college - but more than likely not. So now they are working a minimum wage job and living in a tenement and you , yes YOU, ignorant, angry you are the person inheriting all that rage, all that hopelessness, all that poverty - the crappy schools, the hidden and not so hidden racism, the bitterness of your family at the lack of opportunity and pointless hostility - you'd be primed for a life of crime too.
Understanding this doesn't make a crime committed any less heinous, but it should straighten out any residual confusion you may have about race related crime. I don't think anything will ever straighten out your general stupidity and smug ignorance, however.
I retract this statement. I apologize, Mrs Sherrod. I was wrong.
Good for you jr-700062, welcome back! :) It's amazing how we are being manipulated. Unfortunately, we assume that Fox News is telling us the truth, done the research and verified their claims. Now we see how easy it is to mislead the entire country. I wonder if Fox News is even remotely as mature and responsible as you.
Good for you jr, I doubt there will be many like you who have posted equal or worse.
Now personnally sue her for losing the farm... take every penny she ever earns... treat the racist like she deserves... eat dirt...
They didn't lose their farm...she worked with them for another two years and helped them save it.
She DID talk about that, you idiot. READ the article.
I believe we need an I.Q. test for American citizenship. Those who fail get sent to Foxland. There they can wage imaginary wars against Eurasia while drinking themselves to death with Pabst.
Seriously, you people aren't THAT stupid, are you?
If you are going to take the time to comment on a story, PLEASE take the time to actually learn the facts. Talking about something you clearly know nothing about makes you look like a dumbass. READ the article or keep quiet.
Yeah Rails' instead of making war with Eurasia maybe they could catch a one flight to Uranus?
Facts are seriously lacking on the Right. If the mullets could actually comprehend anything, they'd be dropping FOX like a hot sack of feces. Instead, they hold and cuddle it.
The FACT IS Fox lied, they got caught lying, and the 'baggers defend the liars by lying with them. Its completely sick in a really perverted way.
OMG...I have come to the conclusion that FOXcists (or fascists) and teabaggers (they use a bag instead of a hood) do love a "partial story". They will start reading something and then stop at the point (of their) interest. The truth (the rest of the story) is accidental in their view. Say it often enough and you shall believe it.
In this particular incident, the NAACP and the WH both reacted like the FOXcists. Shame on all.
in twenty four years of hearing farmers plights,she only recalls the one about the white farmer she helped,by doing the very least that she could.i wonder how many black farmers she helped to the upmost of her abilities?wonder why she didn't talk about that?.
Bet you wish now you could delete this right?
This story is just more proof that if Andrew Breitbart says something, it's a lie, and if Fox News reports it, there is a near 100% chance it's also a lie.
I'd say Fox "news" is losing their credibility by the day, but they ran out of it years ago...
That would be why FOX'news'.com is staying away from Breitbart's rants right now. The story has now become about FOX themselves and its scaring them.
What a bunch of hypocrits....this is shameful. I wonder how the white farmer faired in the end.
Ms. Sherrod brought him to a lawyer who helped him with his monetary problems. She also became his and his wifes friend and they are still friends today (24 yrs after this happened).
theresa53
Obama is not going to find her any job; don't hold your breath.
And before we all jump to crucify her, let's give her credit for the help she provided. She could have just turned him away; or told him she was going to help but did not. We've all heard and read of far more egregious, disgraceful acts of racism than this.
Piratewench,
You seem to think that what she did was somehow noble? She PAWNED him off on the lawyer, she wanted him to be taken care of by "one of his own kind". What if the farmer and his wife had not become her friends? That is no different than a black person calling a white person a racist and the only response that comes from the white person is "but I have black friends", that carries no weight with black people. These farmers are her "token" white friends.
So tell me, if we as white people make reference to black people going to school with "their own kind" would that be racist?
Racism is racism, it is only the left however that seem to be able to make the mea culpa and be forgiven for it. What she did was reprehensible, regardless of whether she is a friend of the farmer or not.
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theresa
She help save their farm in the end. What is Hypocritical about that?
At least she didn't tell them to GET OVER THE SLIGHT, then go eat S**T and die.
SHE FIXED IT AND SAVED THEM, THEN RESIGNED and, you racist still are not satisfied.
Wilberta, It looks like you are in violation of Newsvine's Code of Ethics for calling Theresa a racist ! Your comments are inflammatory and you should be suspended. Grow up a little.
JIM041424
In this case you is plural. Should I have said all of you maybe. I was referring to all of you RACIST. is that better, not singularly.
Where is the HONOR in disagreeing with some ones comments and then ganging up on them to abrogate their free speech?
Where is the HONOR in MOB RULE because that is what it equates to. Do you want to know WHY?
Because everyone has a choice of also using the IGNORE THE AUTHOR CLICK TOO.
Then you never have to another one of their POSTS. Why do you people.. who don't like other people.. to HAVE FREE SPEECH do that.
SUSPEND ME BECAUSE YOU ARE TO LAZY OR IGNORANT to use your other OPTION?
Isn't that's why that OPTION exist TOO.... YOU PEOPLE WHO are collapsing and whining to Newsvine when you disagree with other peoples comments are the ones who NEED TO GROWN UP
There are NO ETHNICS when you PEOPLE DECIDE WHO CAN TALK AND WHO CAN'T!
Who you calling "you people??"
Wilberta,
You have posted your link to a Yale University article AD NAUSEUM here on the first page of Newsvine............a total of eleven times by my count. Are you a PAID TROLL or are you incapable of thinking for yourself and making YOUR OWN comments about this article ???
The bottom line is that this woman exhibited racism in her remarks and she finally was caught......leading to her resignation.
By the way, Wilberta........there is a lot of collapsing comments going on today by both sides of this argument, but only big G, little o, and little d really knows who is or is not a racist in his/her heart.
No problem, Wilberta Berry. Take a week off. You're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. You were warned yesterday.
The farmer's wife, Eloise Spooner, 82, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Tuesday that Sherrod helped save their land. Spooner, who considered Sherrod a "friend for life," said that "the federal official worked tirelessly to help" the couple hold onto their farm as they faced bankruptcy in 1986, the Atlanta newspaper reported.
"Her husband told her, 'You're spending more time with the Spooners than you are with me,' " Spooner told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "She took probably two or three trips with us to Albany just to help us out."
OMG. Shirley Sherrod should hire a good lawyer, and sue for $Millions!
Conservatives/Republicans should not be trusted – neither should wimpy Democrats.
In my own humble opinion, she did not resign because her comments were deemed racist..there was a jerk knee reaction by the NAACP and other governmental areas. According to what I viewed, there is a 45 minute video of the entire speech. In the speech she talks openly about her racist attitude that she had 25 years ago..well before she held a government position. She also talked about the experience with the farmer and how it helped to show her that she did not have the right mindset and attitude in her heart. She admitted, during the speech, that what she did was wrong. I ask, quite humbly, should she be scarred by this for speaking her truth and being honest about what was in her heart, or keep it a secret and keep up her behavior..
The blogger who posted this web edited webcast, did so, in part to get in a tit for tat with the NAACP. I believe this was in response to the NAACP 'calling out' Tea Party's leader, Williams. We have got to do better as a society and a nation...Can't we have philosophical differences without always having to bring race into it? I speak this on both sides of the fence...
Again, only in my humble opinion. Blessings everyone!
"She PAWNED him off on the lawyer, she wanted him to be taken care of by "one of his own kind".
Actually, halfwit, she worked for a private foundation established to help poor black farmers. It wasn't her job to do ANYTHING ELSE but to "pawn him off." Though in fact she wound up helping him FOR YEARS and the farmer's wife has said she went to extremes to do so. Do the gene pool a big favor and blow the dog sh1t that passes for your brains out now.
The naacp is joke anyway! Where is al sharpton and jesse jackson?
The remarks were made at an NAACP meeting in March. Not one person in the audience of this NAACP gathering voiced their opposition to her remarks and Mr. Jealous says the Tea Party has a problem.
They didn't voice opposition, they laughed according to the article.
Not just according to the article. It is audible on the recording.
Maybe she felt in this day and time she could say what she did. I remember a time when freedom of speech was not aloud for Blacks. Yes, it would be funny to know what a black person really feel about whites. How about the times when we had to cook for whites and they thought they were superior to blacks. Do you think you was eating just food? This was the way to get back at them for belittling and mistreating them. So, yes, others can relate to that statement and laugh their heart out. If you have not walked in those shoes be thankful.
EXACTLY, though the NAACP did do one thing back in March. They laughed!
What should they have done? Booed? She was telling them a story about how, 24 years ago, when she worked for a charity that assisted farmers, she reacted in a racist way to a white farmer who came to her for help. She goes on to say that she realized how wrong she was, that she worked to make amends to that particular farmer and that she helped him a great deal, and became close friends with him and his wife. She told a story about OVERCOMING RACISM, and an audience comprised of members of a group committed to ending racism applauded her for it.
READ the story you IDIOT.
Because the comments were actually not what you see in the edited video. Turns out it was a motivational speech designed to fight racist thoughts and the lead in was a time when she herself faced the thought that she should succumb to it. She won out and invited her audience to do the same. Every motivational speaker who relates something they did or thought in their earlier life should be treated this way? Dope pushers reform so do thieves and they get up in front of audiences and relate their past then say look at me I am past that time for you not to go there. This woman did the same thing now the righties are spinning in circles because their main news outlet deceived them lied to them and left them hanging with nothing of value to troll today on the subject all 6000 posts for nothing.
that's because they ARE friends. She saved his farm!
Another hitjob by Fox and Breitbart. They are shameless.
Blacks are every bit as racist as whites. Traditionally they have not had the power to deny "whitey" anything. Now they are showing their true colors. They have the power and are more than willing to use it against whites. Two wrongs do not make a right so doing unto others as has been done unto you is not an excuse for flagrant abuses of power by one of any color. Now, when they start charging blacks who attack whites with "hate crimes" we will have made some progress.
Do you mean that the case of the murderer who killed a white girl in a convenience store "because of her color" should have a hate crime?
Only whites can hate and are racist.
Your comments just proved otherwise Mr. thinker.
If a person attacks another person because of the color of their skin, whether it's a white person attacking a black person, black person attacking a white person, etc... it should be considered a hate crime.
White people are not the only ones that are capable of racism, and to believe that's true is naive.
Nonsense
we should know that those comments were "taken out of context"......just shows what a racists org the naacp is.
Andrew Breitbart is a slimy opportunist. Everyone needs to consider the source - this scumbag also made the fake ACORN tapes. Good God..... enough already!!!
Actually, you useless halfwit, it shows nothing of the kind.
the national office of the NAACP condemned her for her comments when they thought she was showing racism. the majority of people who are members of the NAACP (myself included) are very far from being racists. just as the majority of republicans (myself included) are not racist. there are racists in churches and schools and official positions and at fast food restaurants. sweeping generalizations are highly inflamatory and instantly bring about defensiveness. it's clear that breitbart got what he wanted in the end -- a nation divided.
we're all still focused on the smoke and forgetting about the fire. do we all have prejudices? yes. are some stereotypes true? yes. why is everyone so angry about this? why has it become so personal? it's a story about a woman that none of know and a farmer that none of us have ever met in a city that none of us have ever visited.
this is a nation full of anger and frustration. we really haven't made much progress.
What a shocking surprise, a racist black discriminating against whites!
Rest assured there will be much more of this to come as America crumbles under "diversity".
machinehead and Nitti.
Read this and then come back and post your opinions after you are armed with more information.
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Wilberta,
You're a broken record.
You're trying to justify the hateful act by a black woman of today, during the presidency of a black president, by bringing up some dusty article that covers crimes from the 1880's -1950's??
To show you where racism and the joys of "diversity" are really leading us, you should read the following link: http://colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html
Released by the New Century Foundation, this report is taken directly from the FBI uniform crime reports for the years described therein. You will see the truth of the massively disproportionate crimes committed by blacks against whites in every crime category.
Wilberta, we know your position on race in America. You have a great big black chip on your shoulder. Get over it.
GREEK PRINCE
I'm not Black and you are not White. The closet White people I have ever seen were White Albinos.
Everyone else like it or not has some type of hue to their skin tone.
You people must have the BIG WHITE CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDERS.
No one is any better than the next. I don't believe in Religion but I have never read
where the CHRISTAN GOD or JEWISH GOD said and LET ME MAKE WHITE PEOPLE OR
BLACK> BROWN>RED> AND YELLOW.
IT DID SAY LET US MAKE... MALE AND FEMALE, MAN and WOMAN. Every other interpretation is RACIST!
THE CHIP on my shoulder is for ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE.
You so-called 21st Century ill-informed People can look into the mirror and call your
selves what ever you want to.
However you are not WHITE and Black people are not BLACK.
You GUYs with the don't call me WHITEY @!$%#s and don't call me @!$%#S WHITEY'S
are they problem and ALWAYS WILL BE.
Wilberta, You appear to be very angry. Posting a history section on slavery from Yale means nothing. This history has been taught in public school for years, I had alot of that during my grade school years. Just maybe the South needs to clean itself up, leaving the rest of the country to itself.....If the South had been made to do the apologizing back in 1865-1875, then we would never be here. Unfortunately, the Civil War had left us (USA) devistated and with a murdered president. Too long ago, too many lives lost...many human issues on all sides of the color spectrum. You can let the chip go and live free, your choice. Most of America does not want to deal with history that just keeps being shoved in their face. It is not ignorance, it is life. You were never a slave and neither was I, history shows slavery and all types of abuse done by different colors and nationalities....life! Peace to you.
Hello,
Am I the only person here that read the article? The actual event occurred more than 24 years in the past. She actually helped the farmer and more importantly grew as a person. What troubles you bigots is accepting people suffer because of your hate. Do you honestly believe you can spit on people and they should not be angry because you tell them it is rain? You lie to yourselves and anyone that will listen that the NAACP is racist merely because of its name.
Racism was institutional in these United States in law or president that forbade people of color to get into the “melting pot.” Even before we were a nation until present, they have bleed and fought for liberty. This they did even though segregated, mistreated, and second class citizens’ at home. Who defended these Americans’ in 1909 to present? It was never going to be you hateful people. Did you ever read their pledge? I know the answer is no so let me share: “I believe all Americans have equal rights and equal value. I cherish the diverse cultures, beliefs, and values of America. I believe we can disagree without being disagreeable. I repudiate all acts of racism and hate, both in words and action. I have faith in the promise of America – a promise built on mutual respect, common civility, and hope for a better tomorrow. I commit to building that better America by participating actively and peacefully in the democratic process. We are one people. We are one nation. I’m an NAACP American.”
If you were not so full of hate and ignorance, it would remind you of another pledge. I accept that you hateful bigots lie about being patriotic, because all patriots know we are “One nation under God,: and I also accept that you lie about being Christian, because all Christians’ know “1Jo:4:20: If a man say, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar: for he that loves not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”
You do not have to accept t h e words of my faith. Use the empirical and read Desmond Morris or learn how geneticists prove that we are but one race, the human race. I believe that a person must respect himself or herself before they can respect others, so I will be embarrassed for you and even love you until you grow like the woman in the article.
Be Well,
Hello,
Am I the only person here that read the article? The actual event occurred more than 24 years in the past. She actually helped the farmer and more importantly grew as a person. What troubles you bigots is accepting people suffer because of your hate. Do you honestly believe you can spit on people and they should not be angry because you tell them it is rain? You lie to yourselves and anyone that will listen that the NAACP is racist merely because of its name.
Racism was institutional in these United States in law or president that forbade people of color to get into the “melting pot.” Even before we were a nation until present, they have bleed and fought for liberty. This they did even though segregated, mistreated, and second class citizens’ at home. Who defended these Americans’ in 1909 to present? It was never going to be you hateful people. Did you ever read their pledge? I know the answer is no so let me share: “I believe all Americans have equal rights and equal value. I cherish the diverse cultures, beliefs, and values of America. I believe we can disagree without being disagreeable. I repudiate all acts of racism and hate, both in words and action. I have faith in the promise of America – a promise built on mutual respect, common civility, and hope for a better tomorrow. I commit to building that better America by participating actively and peacefully in the democratic process. We are one people. We are one nation. I’m an NAACP American.”
If you were not so full of hate and ignorance, it would remind you of another pledge. I accept that you hateful bigots lie about being patriotic, because all patriots know we are “One nation under God,: and I also accept that you lie about being Christian, because all Christians’ know “1Jo:4:20: If a man say, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar: for he that loves not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”
You do not have to accept t h e words of my faith. Use the empirical and read Desmond Morris or learn how geneticists prove that we are but one race, the human race. I believe that a person must respect himself or herself before they can respect others, so I will be embarrassed for you and even love you until you grow like the woman in the article.
Be Well,
OMG. Conservatives/Republicans should not be trusted because they are supreme race baiters –wimpy Democrat scum should not be trusted either!
Shirley Sherrod should hire a good lawyer, and sue for $Millions!
Wilberta, thanks for the lesson on skin tones. Okay, you are a Negro. Does that make you feel better. Get that big Negro chip off your shoulder. BTW, Tyler has suspended you. Cheers.
yes of course. She discriminated against whites by going above and beyond to help them save their farm. She DID save their farm and they are still friends 24 years later.
I suggest you watch the entire video of her speech, not just the cherry-picked hatchet job by Breitbart and Fox...
Its nice to see racism from the other side in the news. Whites have been discriminated against just as much as African Americans over the last couple of decades yet no one ever talks about it.
And they wouldn't be talking about it now and she would not have resigned had she not been caught on tape. Her views did not change just her job title.
That is the sad truth,
Yep, Bryan, it was black people from Africa who went to Europe and forced Europeans by force to the shores of America to be slaves. Black people whipped white people, separated them from their families, deprived them of their culture and language and considered them somewhat less than people. Then after a brutal civil war, Blacks ruthlessly discriminate against whites, again, denying them the right to listen to Mozart and Beethoven or to read Shakespeare or to practice the Christian religion. The devise public transportation and force whites to sit at the back of the buses. A white boy looks at a black woman, maybe utters some sort of attraction or admiration and a group of blacks come by and brutally murder him, say he is fifteen years old. After so many years of discrimination and political and social struggle, white people are finally able to elect one of their own as president. The black people characterize him by painting his face black, and question whether he is actually an American. All this and not one word from any black person, 'yes, we were wrong.'
Wag3...When you stop blaming the evil white man for mistakes that wer made 200 years ago...maybe then we can move on and live in a nation of AMERICANS...not, Americans and AFRICAN-AMERICANS....But, as long as you want to live in the past and refuse to accept the way things are, things will NEVER change!
As long as someone will drum to that beat, there is no way that we as a country will ever become a nation of equals. How long does one have to carry that burden? How long do one has to hear about those horrorific times and used in the same context as if they are still going on today? I do not own a large field with a large house and some servant walking around calling me "Master". It is a historical point in our country's history and a bad one at that. The United States made a serious mistake with the allowance of the slave industry to continue in the Southern states. Many Americans did not want it nor did the approve of it even back then. But racism will always exsist so long as man has air in his lungs and can open his/her mouth and utter remarks. It is not going anywhere and it simple not going to "die away" just because the first black president was elected. But the time and time again referrence about slaves, oppression, lack of jobs, etc is beating the horse to death. Many people have "moved past that piece" of history. How or what will it take for the community to move on and put it as history and not as the catch phrase. Are people still working in the fields? Are people still be traded on the market block? Maybe the focus should shift back to Africa because oppression on a grand scale of human slavery, suffering, and treatment still exsist and not being conducted solely by "the white man."
We are never going to get over this hill until the do as I say not as I do approach exsist. The political correctiveness allows one to say one thing but others to say the same thing to be called "bigots" and racists. Maybe when we can all shut up the "remember when" on both sides of the fence then maybe the rest of us can move ahead.
Hey Wag... I get the point you are trying to make. I do believe what Bryan was saying is that racism is more prevalent among blacks than what people lead on. Do you know how many times I have been called a "cracker". But if I were to use the "N" word I'd be racist. So it's ok for blacks to call white people "crackers". Thats just as much as me calling a black person the "N" word. Where is that whites can't use the N word but it is ok for one black person to call another person the N word?? Oh and the black community elected "one of their own" as president. Well the last time I checked, he is half black and and half white. So I guess the whites once again elected "one of their own"
Wag3--
The kings of Dahomey sold their war captives into transatlantic slavery, who otherwise would have been killed in a ceremony known as the Annual Customs. As one of West Africa's principal slave states, Dahomey became extremely unpopular with neighbouring peoples.[52][53][54] Like the Bambara Empire to the east, the Khasso kingdoms depended heavily on the slave trade for their economy. A family's status was indicated by the number of slaves it owned, leading to wars for the sole purpose of taking more captives. This trade led the Khasso into increasing contact with the European settlements of the west coast, particularly the French.[55] Benin grew increasingly rich during the 16th and 17th centuries on the slave trade with Europe; slaves from enemy states of the interior were sold, and carried to the Americas in Dutch and Portuguese ships. The Bight of Benin's shore soon came to be known as the "Slave Coast".[56]
Several historians, such as João C. Curto, have made important contributions to the global understanding of the African side of the Atlantic slave trade. By arguing that African merchants determined the assemblage of trade goods accepted in exchange for slaves, many historians argue for African agency and ultimately a shared responsibility for the slave trade.[57]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_slave_trade#Atlantic_Ocean_trade
oh and wag one last comment too... the Dutch were to blame for the start of slavery. They brought the first ones over in 1699
oh gee, snubber, whoopsiedaisy....just a widdle, widdle mistaky pooh! Gosh darnit! The heck, dogonit.....Sorry.....Yeah, Newsfoot, I heard all this before, I suppose because African elites bought and sold slaves, black slaves that must mean that slavery was all right. Yep, sure I understand.
Another thought, too. Slavery ended in 1865...legally anyway... That would be 145 years ago. Many of the events I mentioned happened in my lifetime.. Rosa Parks was arrested for failing to sit at the back of the bus the year I was born. Emmit Till was murdered the year I was born. I remember watching to horror of the Edmund Pettus Bridge live on television. I remember watching when the fire hoses were turned on the demonstrators in Birmingham. I was watching Bewitched when the news came over that Martin Luther King was murdered. I remember school board meetings while I was going to school in which the school superintendent explained why it was best that blacks go to different schools than whites. And we have all seen the posters at Tea Party rallies in which President Obama's face is painted white. This is going on now.
wag3, You ignore the fact that it was coastal black tribes who ventured to the interior to capture fellow blacks to trade to the white slave traders! Slavery was black against black as well as white against black!! The fact is that slavery, as a pratice, is a heinous institution!! It's also, clearly, color blind!!
You don't understand squat...
Blacks have clung to the "victim" mentality despite all the laws passed by white legislators to give them every oportunity to better themselves.
Well, keep playing the victim, because as any mental health professional will attest, the surest way to stagnate is to blame everybody else for your problems. As long as you do, you will never progress as a people/culture.
Finally, only this year, am I seeing whites stand up to "political correctness." It's really refreshing...
And the lyrics of the rap songs where hatred against whites is happening now. Get over it and admit that racism happens on both sides.
Wag3 - you are right, all that has happened in the recent past, even up to today, but we have also all seen the news footage of the New Black Panthers calling for all black people to kill the white men, their wives and their babies. Unfortunately, racism is alive and well in America today, but that racism does not go just one way, it goes both ways. Blacks are racist against whites as often as whites are racist against blacks.
Just because their captives were brown does not mean they were of the same "people". It would be more like if the French captured the British and sold them to the Germans. Or if the Canadians captured the Americans and sold them to Mexicans. Just because they resided on the same continent or shared similar skin tones does not mean they were countrymen.
Not to get too far off topic here but all the talk about not letting go of the ancient past kinda reminds me of Israel- every time Arabs get pushed off their land comes the retort "well it was OUR land 3000 years ago". At what point does the past become the past?
So basically you are afraid of blacks treating whites the same way whites treated blacks for so long. Sounds scary doesn't it? You don't like being the target of racism, so don't target others with racism. I had an interesting conversation when I was in the armed forces and in Germany. The discussion came about the Berlin Wall and how, at the time, Germany was a divided country and a portion of the country had to live under a communist dictatorship. The German said that was the price they had to pay for Nazism. At what time does the past become the past? When the price is paid, and justice served. Remember, without the sheddding of blood there is no remission of sins. That's what Frederick Douglas said after another man some two thousand years ago. Oh, Charles,1666.....how very white of you! White legislators gave black all the opportunities....oh boy!
wag3---Agreed.
I wish the brave at heart ignorant people would take a look at this. I wonder how much they could read until they started to THROW UP!
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
WOW, whites have been discriminated against for the last couple of decades? Everybody else has been discriminated against for at least 400 years. Man,...ya'll got a long way to go.
Wag. Get over yourself. Once and for all. Male or female - black or white or other - you are totally WRONG on slavery. Do you want to know who were the first slaves - WE WERE - WOMEN WOMEN, bought and sold from time immeorial - not just the africani's that STILL sell their young into slavery - yeah - blame the whites. right . sure.
My family were coal miners and farmers; came to the US in the early 1900's. Gee we must be really bad white folks - aka poor white trash (sarcasm alarm). We held so many against their will. Right - yeah - I'll get back to you on that when I find ANY SINGLE instance.
Our family worked their way out of the mines - paid off their servitude - and made a life here. No living on "oh they did this to us and owe us". I've lived through rape and abuse of all kinds, but I've never met a more self actuating loser than you. Live in the past, dreg out the Flaggelation of deceased equines - and never grow. That's why they think Blacks are racist.
Thanks for the history lesson- can't believe that you'd agree w/ wag3's opinion, tho.
Interesting that you're using 200 year old examples to justify current behavior. Imagine if "white america" cherry-picked examples of "African-American" ignorance/racism/welfare-ism/(insert ignorant justification here) from the last 200 years as a foundation of an argument for continued discrimination today. Racist white's could refer, for example, to the challenges that black units faced in Korea in the '50's as a sign that blacks cannot be taught, cannot fight, don't have the courage that their white counterparts possess (nevermind the complete lack of preperation and adequate supplies- the actual fault fell to the white military leadership, not with the individual soldiers). This could then be used to justify denying black men access to deserved opportunities today. Kinda burns, huh?
White's that embraced this logic would be just as WRONG as Sherrod is today.
I see now that my original comment was collapsed by the community. Only the second time that has happened. I suppose a judge should look at cases of criminal behavior and simply say 'Well, that's just the past.'
Well, if the guilty person HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 150 YEARS, then, yeah, they oughta let it go already.
See this is what's wrong about this media doing crap to words...let the whole story be ld..ignorant asses...she was telling a story of what took place 24 years ago....when she was working for a non profit agency...where at the time her view point was initailly a white black thing but it turned out she changed her thoughts and mind set as many people who was once KKK particpants and so forth...she realized this was not a white and black issue she than goes to say.....she helped the people save their farm.....THE WHITE FARMER OWNERS WHO SHE HELPED CALLED IN TO SAY SHE SAVED THEM SHE DID HER JOB AND THEN SOME.....IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR HER THEY WOULD NOT HAVE A FARM....no comparison they the people who reported this story tried to create a story by breaking up somebody elses story and creating a mess....lets see if it gets corrected....
Glad to see that one race is no better than the other since they feel that a race should have to suffer for 200+ years just because the other race did. Whatever. The world will be better when the older generations aren't able to spread their hate to the younger generations who have and are living in peace with each other.
The person has not been dead for 150 years. Emmit Till was murdered 55 years ago and some of his killers are still alive and they have never been punished. White Americans benefitted greatly from the labor of Black people yet they have never paid for the labor. If you lose a lawsuit and you die before you pay, your estate has to pay. The same should be done for slavery. Pay!
wag3:
"If you lose a lawsuit and you die before you pay, your estate has to pay. The same should be done for slavery. Pay!"
My family is Irish and never owned slaves. Heck, they couldn't even get a job when they came to America because they were Irish. Do I still owe black people something just because of the color of my skin?
Should I be able to sue the current generations of shop owners and factory owners that didn't let my ancestors get jobs because of their heritage?
When does the need for retribution end? Do we hold onto the past, or do we try to move on and set good examples for future generations?
Wag - here is a quick question, were you ever personally, not your ancestors or your neighbors ancestors or someone you heard about once, but you, ever actually a slave? Then nobody owes you anything.
Heck, my family is of Irish descent, does this mean I can to England and demand retribution for them having stolen my family's farm 200 years ago? I also have ancestors that can be tied back to Germany, should I give my house of to a Jewish family? Or maybe I should insist that the US government build me a house, after all, they rebuilt Germany after WWI and WWII. Hey, I even have some French in me, maybe my mom's family (the French)should tell my dad's (the German) that they owe me for having raided my country 60+ years ago. Oh wait, that's right, I am an American and I am well aware that what happened to someone else in the past has absolutely no bearing on who or what I am today.
As for white's benefitting from black labor for all those years and never paying, maybe all us white folks should send you black folk a bill for room and board for all those years. After all, the blacks didn't pay the plantation owners for food, clothing or shelter during those times.
Oh, that's an idea, a kidnap victim should be forced to pay his or captors for the room and board. How interesting. I think the sleeping world owes the Jewish people much for the holocaust, and I have understood that the State of Israel is part of that payment. Being partially of English and Scotch Irish descent, my family both owned slaves and help some escape. Because of my part German ancestry, there were some who worked diligently to end slavery. Yet, they lived in a society that tolerated slavery. They allowed it to exist and for this our society now should pay. The centuries of free black labor helped build this country and it's immense prosperity, therefore we today, benefit from the slavery of the past. We then owe those who couldn't make their own way, their own living and still suffer today because of it. Our lives would be much happier and useful. Imagine, being able to go to any part of town and know that the people who live there bear no ill will towards you, that they feel no resentment or hatred or anger towards you. Think of how horrible and dismal this country would be if there were no black people living in it. How many wonderful people who have given so much to this nation even though they held their ancestors in bondage for centuries. Think of all the good things that black people have done for you personally. Yes, a nation pays, a people pay, for the injustices of the past. You can go around saying that nobody owes you anything, yet we celebrate the likes of slave owners who began this country. We recently celebrated the work of Thomas Jefferson during the Fourth of July. If we proudly proclaim his heroics and invention, and put them to use, should we not also pay for his sins as well? We benefitted also from George Washington, who actually freed his slaves but as president allowed the institution to continue. Every President up through Lincoln tolerated the existance of slavery. Every president after Lincoln, until Lyndon Johnson, still reviled and hated by so many, allowed for a nation that held black people as second class citizens.
AS for this particular case, there is more information coming out about it. Apparently she was telling a story of something she had done in the past and how she had overcome such attitudes and have begun to atone for her misdeeds, alleged misdeeds.
Wag - at what point will you let the past be? We cannot change the past, all we can do is learn from it so as not to repeat it. Yes, there is and always will be racism and discrimination in our country as well as our world. However, some seem more willing to push that racism under the guise of "reparations." I'll tell you what, you figure out some way to tie my family directly to having enslaved your family and I will admit that my ancestors owe your ancestors. However, that does not mean I owe you anything, as I did nothing to you.
As many have said, one wrong does not justify another.
As for Dan's social experiment, how about we all quit worrying about what our race is and just start worrying about taking care of ourselves and our neighbors.
As for this whole story, it is a non-story. The truth has come out, FoxNews is currently reporting that her words were taken out of context, that she was using her story as an anticdote to show that she has learned from her personal experiences and that she blames our president for her being forced to resign. You just have to love those knee-jerk reactions.
Wag...your comment..."oh gee, snubber, whoopsiedaisy....just a widdle, widdle mistaky pooh! Gosh darnit! The heck, dogonit.....Sorry.....Yeah, Newsfoot, I heard all this before, I suppose because African elites bought and sold slaves, black slaves that must mean that slavery was all right. Yep, sure I understand."...No, slavery was a HUGE mistake!!!!
As long as YOU want to live in the past and throw SLAVERY into every situation that arises, racism will NEVER go away! IF my great-great-great-great granfather was a murderer, does that make ME a murderer???!!! Should I be made to feel that I OWE something to the families of the people he murdered?!
If you believe that you are STILL a victim of racism, then obviously your tactic of living in the past is not working! Why not try a new one? Try leaving the past in the past and living today! Start trying to work WITH the people you appear to hate so much instead of pushing them away by calling them 'racist'!
Yes, there IS racism in the world...but it's NOT unique to the white man! I have lived and worked all over the world for the past 30 years and, believe me when I say, there is racism ALL OVER THE WORLD!!! It's a HUMAN thing...NOT a WHITE thing! I wish with all of my heart that it weren't true...but it is...I have to live with it just like you have to live with it! But, judging by your comments, I know you will NEVER believe that nor will you accept it...you will continue to spew your hate and disgust and blame the white man for everthing wrong in your life! I wish you well!
Wag- I am disturbed by your demand for payment. HOWEVER let's go with that for a moment.
Let's arrive at a suitable reparation amount, say $20,000 for every man/woman/child who can point to enslaved ancesters. Does everyone (that is, every one who is white) have to pay or just those who had ancestors here back then? (Please say no so us late arrivers get off the hook.) Does Barack Obama have to pay? His mom is white and dad wasn't here back during slavery days so it seems fair that he should.
Ok then upon receipt of your check you sign off that reparations have been made- slavery and racism has been accounted for- things are now even. No more need for affirmative action, set asides, enterprise zones, banning of certain words used by certain segments of society, etc. It is all over, you have been reparated, everyone is on equal ground now.
Do I have that right, is that what you want? If not then what? Not trying to pick a fight I just want to understand what it is going to take to satisfy you that as a whole, America is not racist.
There was no racism and this may spoil your entire day.....
It turns out the Ms. Sherrod is a far better human being than I will ever be. She was using an incident in her life to illustrate how she overcame her own base instincts and helped a man she at first despised, maybe hated. I hope to be so noble at some time in my life. As for some of the other comments. If my great-great-great-grandfather committed a murder and gained from it, land, or money, and that fortune was used to increase my fortunes, then certainly I would owe that victim's family. Our nation today, benefitted greatly from the work of African-American slaves, and we still do, therefore we owe the families of the victims. I would at least let some of the past go, if the reactionaries on this page and in this nation would. Our nation did something remarkable and great on November 4th 2008. We by and large looked at the issues at the time and elected an African-American, a Black man, with mixed race heritage, to the U.S. Presidency. His aim, and I believe he was sincere, was to bring about a post-racial society. While I believe that most of the campaign played down the racial issue, the racial issues arose after his inauguration. The birthers came out and claimed he was not a U.S Citizen, although he undoubtedly is. Commentators call his administration a 'regime' posters appear at political rallies showing his face being painted white. Even though there is no religious test for office, his critics say he should not be president because he is a Muslim. Well, it is clear he is not, and it doesn't matter, the U.S. Constitution, that these Tea Party types say they revere so much, says there is no religious test for office. I have been critical of the Obama Administration, many on the liberal and left have been, but they don't inject race, we don't say he is illegitimate because of his skin color. I believe affirmative action programs are a fine example of reparations to be made. I believe that responsible and intelligent people, people of decency and conscience, can work together to heal the nation's racial wounds. I think Ms. Sherrod would be a good person to help in this search.
Enough already! The laws currently in place protect ANYBODY, no matter what sub-group (we're all members of the HUMAN race- homo sapiens sapiens) of humanity we originate from. Anybody can look in my previous postings where I talked about using the anti-discrimination laws to protect myself while I was in the Army from a couple of black men (I'm a caucasian-amerindian mix) who thought the anti-discrimination laws were meant only to protect blacks from white abuse. They learned differently. Racism can come at you from any direction, from any group or individual. All it takes is intolerance and a self-superior attitude to justify your actions to yourself. No person is free from prejudices of one sort or another, but racial prejudice has no place anymore in our Nation, and it has been codified into law to protect EVERYONE.
except that it wasn't racism. In fact, it was the exact opposite of racism and shows how people of different races CAN and DO coexist happily, peacefully, and even help one another from time to time.
But then again, I don't expect you Fox News viewers to actually THINK and do the prerequisite research to fully understand the entire story...
wag:
"It turns out the Ms. Sherrod is a far better human being than I will ever be. She was using an incident in her life to illustrate how she overcame her own base instincts and helped a man she at first despised, maybe hated. I hope to be so noble at some time in my life."
I doubt he was deserving of her hatred in the first place, but I will grant you that she did overcome her hatred and did the right thing, even if it wasn't the first thing she did. She is willing to admit that what she did was a mistake, and she did her best to rectify it. I will absolutely grant her that, and it does take some courage to go against your preconceptions about someone and act against what your upbringing has taught you.
"As for some of the other comments. If my great-great-great-grandfather committed a murder and gained from it, land, or money, and that fortune was used to increase my fortunes, then certainly I would owe that victim's family. Our nation today, benefitted greatly from the work of African-American slaves, and we still do, therefore we owe the families of the victims."
So does all of America owe anyone who can trace back their ancestry to a slave? My family didn't come to America until the 1900's. Does my family still owe? And how much do we all owe? How much is enough retribution? Does everyone in America owe the families of former slaves money? Do we owe them jobs? What the heck should the rest of America do to finally put this in the past? Give me a number, give me a figure, give me something. Because it can't be held over future generations' heads forever.
"I would at least let some of the past go, if the reactionaries on this page and in this nation would."
And how are people supposed to move on when constantly reminded of it, saying that we need to pay? There are always going to be backwards people that refuse to let go of the past, but a majority of people have moved on. There are always going to be racist people on both sides of the argument, there's no getting over that, but why can't the rest of us move on? Yes, there is still racism evident today, but there are those of us that would like to move past it.
"Our nation did something remarkable and great on November 4th 2008. We by and large looked at the issues at the time and elected an African-American, a Black man, with mixed race heritage, to the U.S. Presidency."
I believe that electing a black President is significant because it shows that a majority of Americans can look past skin color, but other than that, I don't think his Presidency has been even close to remarkable.
"His aim, and I believe he was sincere, was to bring about a post-racial society. While I believe that most of the campaign played down the racial issue, the racial issues arose after his inauguration."
Some of which he initiated. The incident in Cambridge, MA comes to mind right away. In an already highly sensitive racial issue, he said something as the President he shouldn't have without knowing all of the facts, which sparked the issue even further than it should have gone. It just shows that prejudice isn't just for the white man. Everyone has their own preconceptions, and until we get past those (meaning everyone), we're going to be stuck right where we are.
"The birthers came out and claimed he was not a U.S Citizen, although he undoubtedly is. Commentators call his administration a 'regime' posters appear at political rallies showing his face being painted white. Even though there is no religious test for office, his critics say he should not be president because he is a Muslim. Well, it is clear he is not, and it doesn't matter, the U.S. Constitution, that these Tea Party types say they revere so much, says there is no religious test for office."
There are always going to be lunatics on either side of a political campaign. He's not the first President to have his nationality and religion questioned, nor will he be the last. But you are correct, there is no religious test that President must pass in order to be the President. As long as he meets the requirements that are in the Constitution, if he is elected, he is the President.
"I have been critical of the Obama Administration, many on the liberal and left have been, but they don't inject race, we don't say he is illegitimate because of his skin color."
I also have been highly critical of the Obama Administration, and while I tend to be right leaning (at least now... before this administration, I was more left leaning), it has nothing to do with his race. It has plenty to do with his promises of no more back room politics (which are still going on), and no higher taxes for the middle class (which is a promise that will be broken at the beginning of the year), and the passing of a healthcare legislation I'm completely against. I know, it may be shocking, but people can be critical of the President and not care about his race, even from the right. But I've had a lot of people through the accusation that because I'm right leaning, and because I don't support the President, it's because I'm a racist.
So don't believe that the radical liberals are any kinder than the radical conservatives.
"I believe affirmative action programs are a fine example of reparations to be made. I believe that responsible and intelligent people, people of decency and conscience, can work together to heal the nation's racial wounds. I think Ms. Sherrod would be a good person to help in this search."
So... affirmitive action, and now we're all square? Or do you expect more? You say that affirmitive action programs are a fine example of reparations, but yet you expect people to pay more, since those that actually held people in slavery are long dead, somehow their estates should pay.
Healing the nation's racial wounds requires both sides to move on from the past. As long as people cling to it saying they're still owed something because of it, we'll never move past. I'm not saying forget what happened, because how can we learn from it if we forget? But we need to learn from it, and move forward. Hanging onto the past and constantly rubbing it in white people's faces as if to say, "You owe me!" is not the way to heal any wounds. It only serves to keep us divided.
A lot of things happened to people that they did not deserve. A teen boy from Chicago visits his relatives in the south, openly and vocally admires a good lookiing white woman and ends up brutally murdered. The culprit go free, some of still alive and are free. Yes, people can and will be critical of the president without reference to his race, I am not talking about them. It is these people who comes to presidential speeches bearing a firearm or the people who display posters with his face painted white, these people who say he is not legitimately a citizen of the United States, it is these people who refer to his administration as a 'regime' that I have issue with. They are not offering legitimate criticisms of policy, they are attacking him personally and I do believe mostly due to his racial make up. Most white racist I have know give no credit to an African-American who is partially, white or European American. Indeed, many believe that makes him even worse. Once again, the inability to acknowledge a wrong from the past and doing something to remedy it, is called something that will divide. What is so wrong with that? Why can't Americans of European origin admit that wrongs were done, that there ancestors committed these wrongs and that they benefitted from those wrongs? I feel now that we, those of us who are of European ancestry are paying a far greater price. I would love to be able to speak with, be friends with Americans of African descent, and know that they hold no anger toward me, that they can be fully trusting of me, that they would know that I would never do anything that would harm them, and that they, without me saying anything about it, could fully and completely trust me. I would like to be able to walk through any neighborhood in the nation, even one that is heavily populated by African-Americans and know that I will not be assaulted or insulted. I would oddly enough, look at our nation's prison population, and know that proportionally to the population there are as many white inmates as there are black inmates. I cannot believe that African-Americans are less morally capable of obeying the law than whites. Injustices perpetrated by whites however, are overlooked and not considered illegal, although their actions are every bit, if not more harmful that the actions of African-Americans. Look at the banking crisis that led to the horrific economic downfall that left so many Americans without their hard earned savings. These actions were primarily done by white people, yet none, besides Bernie Madoff is sent to prison. An African-American, who commits a robbery of some petty cash, or uses an illegal drug, is wrong in doing so, but they are sent to prison for their actions, yet a white banker can wreck a nation's economy and suffer no consequences. A white radio talk show hosts, whose claim to fame is inflaming the bitter white people of this nation, is free to become a drug addict but again suffers no consequence. A U.S. President violates the U.S. Constitution and commits our nation to war, that leads to the deaths of thousands of Americans would never see the death chamber, but an African-American, who murders one during a robbery, is put to death.
Would it not be better to establish a nation in which all are judged according to their actions, and that all harmful acts to human society are treated equally. I would love to say to anyone on this planet, that if my existence on this planet has caused you sorrow and pain I would like to do something to ease your sorrow and bring happiness to you. This seems so far beyond many who have posted here on this webpage.
Once again, the person that was carrying the gun at the speech was a black man, so if you are saying he is racist against Obama simply because he had a gun (which by the way he is legally able to do) then obviously it is that he is racist against Obama's white side.
As for people referring to his administration as a regime, it is comparing his administration to the socialist Nazi Regime, which was very white, so again, there goes your racist argument.
Yes, there are people who dislike him simply because he is black, but there are also blacks who dislike him simply because he rose above any perceived slight to his color and made something of himself.
Where's Jesse and Al to denounce this racist? Where's Obama do denounce this racist? Blacks are equally as racist as Whites but don't want to admit this fact.
Exactly! They would probably just claim it as "reverse racism", which, of course, there is no such thing. Racism is racism, just like illegal is illegal.
You just did.
We can go nowhere as a species until we realize we are all the same. I found this very shameful to my race. For her stupidity i offer apologies, not to white people but to humans. To you i offer this, quit seeing people as either black or white, russian or german but only male and female. You will still offend people but this way there all pissed off about the same thing and not singled out. If im mistaken for African, i offer a puzzled look. Im not screaming at you for the mistake. I once made a recomendation of a Steak house to a woman from India. I regret that to this day, but she was not offended by my stupidty.
Did Bush denounce it? Furthermore what does President Obama have to do with this? You look for any and everything to drag him into.It really shows where your mind is at.Clearly you have racism issues just to think that you can associate him to this simply because they share the same race.
Who cares where Jesse or Al are, the point is that these racists comments do not represent the thinking or actions of most Americans of African decent anymore than Jesse or Al do. What this woman did and said was wrong and I am not appalled because I am black, I am appalled because I am an American. Stop making race the issue, address the issue of injustice. No American should be denied assistance from the government, period end of story.
You know, there is racism, but there are also other components that get confused with racism.
One of them is that something in our human nature, all of us, seems to fear that which is different, skin color, culture, language, location, whatever and it is probably a defense mechanism left over from the ages. If it is different than what we are used to, we tend to distance ourselves. WASPS are uncomfortablele and a Latino Festival, Blacks are uncomfortable at a heavy metal concert, Buddhist Asians are uncomfortable at a Roman Catholic service....
On the other hand, we also resent being excluded, as whites tend to be excluded from black culture, and vice versa. When we feel we are excluded from something we want to be included in, we resent it and the people involved, regardless ofrace or anything else. Nobody wants to be left out of something they like.
We need to be carful not to confuse natural human behavior that is not inherently evil with racism which is completely evil.
And then there is just plain old racism, judging people on the color of their skin, and that is what we have here. This is not human nature, this is learned behavior and it is disgusting.
Lynette,
Since Obama chimed in when he assumed there was racism involved in the Harvard thing when there was not, how can you possible have a leg to stand on. Answer: you dont.
I find it very funny how so many people have become experts of Racism since this country elected a Black President.
Question to all of you experts out there is, where was your vocal oppositon to the institutional racsim, the prejudice, mistreatment and out right disparte treatment directed against persons of color during times when this nation was governed by White Presidents? Why is it that you experts are now all up in arms about what some idiot says, be they black or white? Seems to me that all you are trying to do is deflect a documented history of this country's treatment of people of color.
No the NAACP is not a racist organization. Sharpton, Jackson, and the other elderly leaders of the Civil Rights Movement suffered and lived through times when it was illegal to discriminate but certain Americans did it anyway and elected officals and law enforcement condoned the practice. That is history. That is fact. Much of that attitude still exists today and is exhibited by blacks as well as whites.
Racism is not a racially exclusive wrong. What the USDA official did was wrong, but at least the NAACP took a stand against her remarks and denouced her conduct as wrong. Yet that point seems to escape many on this blog. All you want to do is point fingers and accuse. Ask yourself this, are you outraged and mad because of the injustice of racism, or is it just so that you can say "See black people are racist too." If it's the former then I apologize to you for this post. If it is the latter, then shame on you for failing to admit that injustice is wrong regardless of the persons race, etc.
Sayitaint,
Pretty judgemental aren't you? Painting with a wide brush without even knowing who you are talking to huh? Assuming what other people are thinking too?
Gee what does that sound like.....bigotry? Yep, that's it....
My take on why al and jesse are being brought up is because they are always at the forefront of any perceived racist comments made by whites or perceived racist actions against blacks. Take for example when the teenage girl cried "rape" by a white guy, al was right there on his soap box. When it turned out a hoax, he never apologized for his rants against the whites.
the thinker
Why don't you read this and give me your take on it. I would be very interested!
Then tell me WHO NEEDS TO APOLOGISE TO WHOM!
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Get the real story, the white farmer called in and thanked her, that's what happen when you go and try to dig up some crap to proof a point....she helped save the white farmer land and they are friends thats petty for them to try an d create some crap
No one needs to apologise to anyone Wilberta...it's the past, let it go. None of us today had a hand in those lynchings. It's like me asking you to appologize for occupying my ancestor's land (I'm 1/16th cherokee).
I am appalled, but not surprised at what this lady said. I I have friends that are black and they are appalled. Not all blacks are racists. Racists are the Sharptons, Jesse Jacksons, blacks with big chips of "you owe me" on their shoulders along with YOUR very own President that calls anyone that is not in step with him racists. It isn't even about slavery anymore because our family never owned any and none of the racists and angry blacks have ever been slaves. I worked for what I have, pay taxes and don't owe other people anything
There is a difference between making discriminatory comments and being a racist or acting on racial terrorist tendencies. Language and comments by American Africans cannot be compared to the terrorist actions of whites against American Africans during enslavement, post-reconstruction, segregation, and post segregation. Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton are leaders that I have tremendous respect for and they refuse to stop bringing attention to racial injustice because some whites feel inconvenienced.
I am proud to say any opportunities my people, American Africans, have received in this country has been earned; no one gave us the hand-outs regularly provided to whites.
Before you call any American African racist make the comparison, and if you can locate a history of racial terrorism in both directions - you may then actually have a valid point.
Today the right winger on the view put her foot in her mouth because of Kathy Griffin's remark about Senator brown. Appears she only saw half of the quip from Kathy. Which she said was a joke.
In Knoxville five young blacks car-jacked two white kids, and proceeded to rape, kill, and burn both the boy and the girl. No one was interested in calling it a hate crime, and the national media, other than Knoxville, never reported on the crime. If the colors had been reversed this story would have been national from day one through the trials(about two years). This would have been a hate crime if those skin colors had been reversed.
This cracker is very happy she's toast.
Where are all the White liberals coming to this woman's defense????
Where is Hollywood????
Is something stuck in the throat of all you left wing nuts who praise this crap!
Here I am! It is just another case where whites are afraid that black people will start treating them the way they treated blacks for so long.
Hey genius, in case you didn't know (and obviously you don't) it was black people that sold their own into slavery 200 hundred years ago... so do some homework before you make stupid accusations about who treated who a certain way!
What exactly did "WE" do to any black people. The vast majority of white people alive today had nothing to do with and are not even related to anyone who had anything to do with that time in American HISTORY. Therefore any attempt to justify treat white people the way this woman did is bull###t.
White people today are far more concered about keeping jobs ( That we are now more likely to lose or not get in the 1st place thanks to rules blantantly slanted in favor of minorities), Keeping food on our tables, and making sure our kids get the best education possible as we would like them to aspire to be something better than a football/basketball player, rapper, gangbanger, and future welfare recipient.
The only people "Victimizing" Black people today are Black people themselves. They teach their children to hate over an offense (slavery)they were not even alive to be victims of against a generation of a race that for the most part doesn't even have a decendant that was involved with it. It's black people who have been out there killing eachother in record numbers for the last 20 years with gang violence and drugs. It's also black teens/young women who get pregnant multiple times by multiple men who turn out to be dead beats and Absentee fathers who act like they can't be around cause they are doing something to better their lives when in reality all they're doin is running the streets probably committing crimes with their gang banger buddies.
It's black people who teach their kids that the only way to get a decent life in this country is by getting a bigtime sports or rap contract ignoring the fact that only a very small percentage of people can actually make it to those levels of athletic competition which does seriopus damage to the childs education as they will most likely have no big contract and no education to go with it thus condemning themselves to a minimum wage job or hard labor.
It's blacks who would rather take a handout from the goverment than actually get out there and find a job/ any job cause that would mean actually working hard at something that won't pay millions (Gasp).
So as i said Black people can only blame themselves for what they are "going through" today. This may seem heartless but i could care less what happened 150-200 years ago in this country I'm only concerned with today and as hard as this may be for African Americans to believe the vast majority of white people are way more concerned with bigger issues than trying to "Sabotage" a race that seems geneticly predisposed to destroying themselves anyway.
wag3-
Get an education. Your comments smack of payback.
I pity the people that you come into contact everyday. Anyone who has lived thru and witnessed all that you claim to have seen should KNOW BETTER than to then assume the position of tyrant to get even. There is no even. You can't go back and change anything. Your opinions keep us all where we are.
And you dont comprehend history very well. Just because they were all black does not mean they were "people".
Germans are Germans, and Russians are Russians. Just because they are both white does not make them the same type of people.
Hence what you are referring to would be, Kenyans selling their Nigerian captives. Move the situation to Europe and it would be like the British selling their Irish captives.
Nicely put Neisha that should be simple enough for people to understand.
What exactly is your point?? Your statement serves to further divide people into more categories, creating more distance between each "type." If you really want to eliminate prejudice you need to preach UNITY. You can start by dropping the descriptive off of the term "African-American."
Why should I when they refer to themselves as African-American. When they drop the African part then so will I till then it's them who are "further dividing" people into categories
Neish1920
Go to Yale for free and really gain some knowledge...if you can take it. After you read it all
Then come back and share your new found knowledge. Maybe Goodguyfl could read it too.
Nothing wrong with SHARING KNOWLEDGE is it?
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
And if you are able to read and comprehend you'll understand the point of my post just fine as I'm certain many others did but I'll break down for you. African Americans today are responsible for whatever they think they are going through. Read it slowly next time I'm sure you might get it then.
I describe myself as Neish. I was never given the memo about what we would call ourselves. That box was marked on my Birth Certificate before I had a chance to dispute the findings.
PREJUDICE does not always have to do with race. You can Pre judge anyone based on your own perceptions, be they blonde haired, tall, fat, skinny...etc.
There is just as much prejudging within groups as there is among groups.
Ive already been to school for free, and the real world knowledge I have gained is priceless.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I will pass.
Neish
I knew you would pass. Just thought I could extend your Hatred of what you know nothing about a little more.
I read your POST very well. It was my INSPIRATION to really enlighten you. Too bad you're afraid, to check it out.
Maybe some open minded people here won't be. Ignorance is not BLISS!
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
You know the last thing I'm gonna believe is anything from a Black history course anywhere. That course is by design made to make the blacks look like vicitms from cradle to the grave and teaches them nothing about making their own race accepting responsability for their role in slavery. Funny how you always wanna look past the fact that Your own race sent other members of your race into slvery but we can't talk about that no, no it's all the white mans fault he was the sole villian back then.
It also strikes me as funny that when one of their own gets busted for racism they try to throw out the slavery card and bring up events of 150-200 years ago that have absolutely nothing to do with it. I'd like to know what slavery has to do with this woman being a racist and using the power she had to not help a white farmer. I'd also like to know what slavery has to do with the "situation" African Americans are in today.
Let me save you the time It has nothing to do with slavery what so ever. This is just something that they will throw out time and again to keep from having to accept the fact that they are to blame for their actions not the white man. Face it Blacks are the racists just as much if not more so than whites. The only reason i would be labeled a racist is because I call it like it really is and in this day and age that's just an unacceptable thing well tough I suggest people get a thicker skin cause I will never change that point of view till I am givin valid reason to do so.
What did I say I hated?
Repost that and enlighten me, if you will.....
You didn't Neish1920. It's just that anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view about thng must be a hateful racist. I also apologize for spelling your name incorrectly earlier
Neish-
You're right, you didn't use the term "African American." My use of a rhetorical "you" was misplaced. Mea culpa. Let me know the next time your in Dallas and I'll buy you a cup of coffee and we'll really dive into this :)
There is just as much prejudging within groups as there is among groups
... this may be accurate, but it's no defense against discrimination.
True, my point is race is not always the reason for prejudice, or discrimination. If were just about race, then where would have been no need for the ADA or the ADEA additions to the civil rights act.
@ jr and Goodguy, no problem! :)
Waiting for the rest of the story which is very different from what you think. Now that it is in you guys again look like fools. Happy trolling.
Hey observer21 -
You are certifiably nuts....
Here's a thought. Why don't we just paint ourselfs one color. We can finally put end to this racism bull@$hit once and for all!!!! Tired of it!
Maybe the NAACP will start taking a better look inside their own organization before they start pointing more fingers. It doesn't matter if this is a video from 20 years ago or not, it is still shameful and she deserves everything she gets, A raciest is a raciest no matter the color maybe someday people will learn.
What is a "raciest"?
The VIDEO is not 20 years old, you moron. She told a story about a moment in her past - a moment which took place over 20 years ago. The story demonstrated her realization that she herself was behaving in a racist way. She told a story that described her own behavior as wrong, and how her realization made her a better person who went on to spend YEARS helping this particular person, and how he and his wife became friends of hers.
Honestly, the "tea party" wouldn't exist if you people would learn to read. (It might help your spelling and grammar a bit too.)
The video is from this year.
So many of these people are so far off base you wonder how they can comment on anything unless they read it first.
So let me get this straight, it took the NAACP 4 to 5 month's to come out and condemn this type of behavior. I guess the NAACP was hoping that it would not get onto the national circuit. There just as racist as the comment's that were made in some instances. Let's see how long it take's them to take the appropriate asction against the other NAACP personnel in the audience that applauded her action's.
No. Even when you are trying, you can't get it straight. It took the racist tea party morons 4-5 months to locate the most damning thing they could dig up about the NAACP - and that was a video of a speech she made a few months ago. In the video, she tells an audience that over 20 years ago, when she worked for a charity, she mis-treated a man who came to her for help, and her realization that her reaction to him was racist. She told the story in order to illustrate how wrong racism is, and she went on to say that the realization made her a better person, and that she ended up spending years helping this particular man, and how they went on to become good friends.
"There are just as racist"? Why should the NAACP applaud her actions? We ALL need to have the same moments of self-examination and change, don't we? I applaud her actions and the actions of any else who puts energy and time and thought into ended racism, rather than in furthering their own ignorance and selfish wants. Now go and take a couple of elementary classes in English, spelling and grammar and civics. You IDIOT.
This will come as no surprise to anyone who's ever had to deal with any two-bit government bureaucrat. Especially at the dept. of labor.
This will come as no surprise to any white person who's living in the 'new south.' Why any white - or brown - person would want to live in dressed-up broken down, corrupt and crime riven southern cities (like Atlanta) is a mystery. Most blacks would not be where they are today were it not for decades of white guilt, affirmative action, and a lot of national patience. While most blacks concentrate on gaming the system to get federally mandated vanity corporate and low-IQ government jobs for life which they are not qualified for, along with an endless stream of scholarships and lessing of standards (educational and societal), they tend to forget who is bankrolling that 'success.' Still. The country has allowed itself to become semi-literate and violent in order to placate an irresponsible 12% of the population driven from cradle to grave to do little more than take from others - while shooting off their mouths and blaming everyone but themselves.
"crime riven"?
"lessing of standards"?
And who's to blame for your 'lessed' standards? hahaha.
Where is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on this story. Come on be some good ole boys and speak up. Wait you don't accept white as a color in your club do you...sorry I forgot Africa American only.
I wonder how many farmers lost there farms due to this piece of trash. I hope everyone ever denied aid from this lady stand up regardless of what race they are and file a discrimination case against her and nail her ass to the wall of shame where she belongs.
Most likely, a lot fewer white farmers lost their farms than black farmers. And the Republicans in the Senate are still holding up the court ordered reparations for the black and latino farmers who lost their farms due to white USDA racism.
It just shows how discriminatory so many whites are to castigate a black woman who helped a white farmer hold his land while ignoring the white on black hate.
As a holder of a BS in journalism, I can tell you that "lady" is a value judgement rarely used in reporting. At this point we have no evidence to suggest that this female is a "lady."
My question is, in view of the fact that blacks make up 12% of the US population, what percentage of federal employees are black? The same question could be asked about state, county, and city governments.
I would love to see those numbers. I doubt they would ever be printed though.
True Vinnie, they wont print it, but the numbers exist. The CBO tracks this.
17.5% of federal employees are Black
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/78xx/doc7874/03-15-Federal_Personnel.pdf
Let them all go back to Africa and Mexico to farm, then they wont have to worry about losing them because of discrimination (yeah, right).
That is only 50% more than their percentage of population. Yet many cry discrimination.
Mr Fusions, nothing you posted is true or supportable. What does that make you?
Sorry about what happend to Blacks and all, but as an Italian merican, I and my family had NOTHING to do with it so why should my tax dollars go to reparations?
Where are my reparations for my family members who were sent to concentration camps in the UNITED STATES during WWII because our name ends in a vowel even though other family members are decorated WWI veterans and were serving the US in WWII? Or for being denied loans and jobs because we were greasy WOPS? Or for being denied a rezoning application in the 70's because we were Italians from Chicago and probably with the "Mob"
Where are they?
Now, as an HR recruiter, we must also ask the percentage of applications coming from black people, vs. white people. So when you look @ the percentage of blacks hired, you must also look @ the percentage of those who apply. More than likely, more black people apply, that is why more are hired.
Lets look @ the auto plants. Its not that more men are being choosen over women. Its the perception a woman has about that type of work, and for whatever reason just does not apply for those types of positions in the same volumes that men do.
Its like long distance running. Its not that white people are better, its just they are more likely to run those types of events.
Another example, there used to be a perception that sprinters, were short, stocky and powerful runners. Well, Usain Bolt is 6'5, long, lean and fluid. More tall people will start to do sprinting events since they have seen someone like them who has broken the mold....
Neish...you really should read this and post. You will have more clarity of thought!
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Wilberta, you are a one note wonder.
People here need to look in the mirror, and "do unto others" before they all come screaming to verbally lynch "the others".
If people cannot look honestly into their souls and see that they are not perfect, that they cannot HONESTLY scream out "I don't have a racist bone in my body, never had, never will ... all the problems in my life are caused by THOSE PEOPLE" , then we just have to wait it out until the haters all die out, or destroy the world.
Evolve or die.
Check out the entire story before you "go git yur guns". Geez. And relax ... and maybe pray?
darcylu
Pray to whom? The ENTITY who only made Man and Woman? Males and Females?
No where in any BOOK is a DEITY calling their creation by SKIN COLOR.
That is SOLELY a RACIST MAN'S CONCEPT! Not a "GOD" given ONE.
That is where this hole racial s**t falls apart, an it's sicken because it's a HINDRANCE.
"Whites" don't discriminate against other "Whites"? Yes they do every day only it's called Nepotism and rich "white" versus poor "white"
The Haves versus the Have not's is DISCRIMINATION!
Where do you guys think serfs and peasants and Vulgar comes from. The king and Queen were not in Europe making Salves out of COLORED PEOPLE.
It was the PEOPLE who looked just like them. Ignorance is not BLISS.
Wilberta...do you have anything to add to this discussion other than repeatedly posting a link to the same study? Every one of your posts is the exact same thing. Trust me that if we haven't clicked on your link by the 7th time you have posted it...chances are we aren't going to click it. Seriously...could you either add something new or please shut up.
More on topic...racism comes from all colors. I work with people of several races and I have heard racist comments from all of them. We all dislike/shun/fear or just don't get people that are different from us. Some of us try to understand those differences and try to overcome stereotypes. Others of us don't bother. It saddens me that we are still such a divided nation on so many topics and it saddens me even further that we let our "leaders" and politicians keep us divided and distracted from the really important issues that effect us all...like unemployment, educating the next generation, stabilizing our economy and getting America back to a position of prominance in the world as a leader and visionary. Have I ever laughed at a "racist" joke...sure. I've also laughed at a blatantly sexist joke, blonde joke and gay joke at some point in my life. I don't feel any of that makes me a racist(even though I'm white), sexist(and a woman), blonde hater(whose brother is blonde) or homophobe(and whose brother is gay). Maybe we all just need to put the past is the past where it belongs, stop looking at it and hoping it will somehow miraculously change(it won't). Maybe we all need to look to our future and try to make it better for Everyone. Maybe we need to try to see past ourselves and try to see the big picture more often. maybe we need to stop blaming others and take on some personal responsibility for our own personal choices and actions. Maybe....just a few thoughts.
If this was a white woman she would still be getting chastised by the press and the obama administration but since she's black, all of a sudden she's a hero and should get her job back. You go obama, show what your'e really made of!!!! FU(KIN HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama and the NAACP are the real racists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sir76
re: post 22.13
2nd paragraph, well said! You can't improve on the past!
They claim that a black person cannot be racist. This story just goes to show they are and when they are forced to resign they are given a higher job.
My point exactly!!
Given a higher job? I didn't read that. Can you explain to us?
Just wait and you'll see.
Who says blacks can't be racist?
oh just like when Obama became president the world would come to an end?
chucky..Let's hope their RACISM doesn't take them to this EXTREME as it did WHITES!
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Wilberta is that your answer to everything? Get a new response please. No one cares after you post the same thing 20 times.
Also, my family is Irish-American so we experienced plenty of harsh treatment over the years. First by England for 1000's of years then later on by the WASPs that ran this country. Does this entitle me to never have to work and blame everyone else for everythinghat has gone wrong in my life. No, my family worked hard to find a job, educate themselves and become a contributing member of society. My great-arents came to this country with $1 in their pockets and 6 kids. Amazing what a little hard work and determination can do for you.
YOU made my point JESRSY GIRL. People who look in the mirror and think they are "white"
Get discriminated against by other people who look like them.
Amazing how not being dark skined ALLOWED you to get the hard work you were paid for.
Black Slaves did plenty of hard work EXCEPT they could not get paid for it.
That does not make your Irish Family better. The color of your skin allowed your family to escape INDENTURED SERVITUDE, notice it was not called Slavery.
My 6 times Great Grandfather came here from Ireland too, in 1689 Ezekiel Wedgeworth.
it still doesn't give me the GOD ORDAINED RIGHT to think I'm superior to any other Human Being. based on my freckled skin tone, and RED HAIR!
Wilberta Berry
The study is old. The period it covered was 61 years ago. That is twice my lifetime away from me.
Go read a study on the Holocaust if you really want to be informed about what it means to be persecuted.
I hear all the time about the plight of the black folks.
How about 6000 years of persecution, execution, rapes, and murders of the Jewish race?
200 years is a drop in the bucket.
The fact is this lady is racist and showed her colors.
Now go educate yourself with a different study and move along with your comments.
You go jersey girl!!!!! You get what you work for!!!!
Seriously Derek, you rant as to the fact that the study is 60 years old and then you talk about the Holocaust which was over 70 years ago, you yell at Wilberta to get educated yet your statements that this lady is a racist let me know that you have not educated yourself and watched the entire video without editing and the full context of her statement. Protect yourself from others calling you ignorant by doing a bit of research and forming an educated well informed decision. If you feel after listening to the entire speech that this lady is still a racist then at the very least you made that decision with all the facts.
10,000+ years of unchecked prosperity--give 'em a break
This is too scary! Where will she work next? With Admiral Thad Allen and , or in White House??
Come on everyone......DON'T YOU ALL KNOW IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!
Obama will appoint her to some sort of high position... maybe tea party opposition, or acorn manager....
this is sickening really..... since when do we help people based on race... sad.
this is a rare example of justice and reverse discrimination that hits the media
Discrimination is discrimination. There is no "reverse discrimination." Assuming that discrimination is only practiced by white people is in and of itself discrimination.
RARE my ass. Move to NYC, NY and see how rare it is!
Duuhhhhhhhh....
Amoson Andy
Share this with your friends.
I'm sure you can roast wieners will you read it. If you can read it all. REMEMBER READING REQUIRED not a VIDEO!
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
Saying “reverse discrimination” is like saying “irregardless” The root word is defining enough. Race is not the only vice used in discrimination, Gender, religion, weight, monetary status, hair color, skin tone, neighborhood, clothing, age, education (or lack of). All those factors can be a reason someone discriminates against another person. The term “reverse” discrimination is redundant.
rare yeah O..K.. so how big is that closet you live in ...for you to say this is rare you MUST have some kind of a sheltered life there is just as much black racism as there is white racism , the ONLY reason it seems that there is more white racism is primarly because there is more whites in our country than blacks
Wilberta Berry
Once again. The study is about things we already know. We understand the civil rights struggle.
You think 'white' people persecution was only for the Irish?
6000 YEARS OF PERSECUTION
12 Million systematically hunted down and killed in just one 4 year period.
Skinned into lamps and book covers. Some 'white' skin to make chairs/jackets/briefcases
To this day a hunted race that is facing destruction every day.
They are WHITE. They are JEWS. Their plight is 10 times worse than the african-american plight.
The study is pointless to this discussion. You are not opening any eyes here.
Wilberta Berry --- Negro HOLOCAUST??? Since when did former US slavery become elevated to a holocaust? Your Mr. Robert A. Gibson apparently never learned about the US Constitution's Amendments 14-16 by stating in his title that the "Negro Holocaust" occurred between 1880 and 1950.
Google Armenian Genocide for what a REAL HOLOCAUST means. Learn what the Ottoman Turks did to over ONE MILLION innocent Christians and other non-Muslim people (men, women, children) during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. 1.5 MILLION ARMENIANS alone were brutally slaughtered. That's not counting the raping of little girls, pregnant women, and other females.
Then, Google Adolf Hitler for another example of what REAL HOLOCAUST means. Hitler founded his own HOLOCAUST upon the success of the Ottomans' deliberately planned and executed annihilation of targeted groups of people.
Google Cambodia (Khmer Rouge), Rwanda, Darfur .... THOSE, also, are holocausts (genocides).
I'm not saying that the lives of blacks during the US slavery period was easy, nor am I saying that slavery is ever right. It most definitely was, and still is, wrong anywhere on Earth.
Why don't "African-Americans" drop the "African" part of their "identity," since it was AFRICAN TRIBAL LEADERS who SOLD THEIR OWN PEOPLE to the highest bidders? Think about that!
NEGRO HOLOCAUST within the USA? I think not!
Blacks have been racist to white for years. It was wrong what happened to blacks years ago but it does not make it right what they are doing today. Nobody owes this current generation anything and they need to get on with it or they are just going to destroy themselves.
For those of you that know nothing about the NAACP and how it is structured let me enlighten you. Her remarks were made at a local NAACP chapter's Freedom Fund dinner. The National NAACP office would have no knowledge of comments made by a speaker at a local event unless someone reported that. It appears that as soon as they found out about it at the national level they spoke out against the comments. Unlike the people at the national level of the Tea Party movement who refuse to believe there are racist elements within their local organizations.
I think anyone can be a bigot no matter who you are. It appears though that some of you believe that the NAACP is racist because they are fighting for the rights of people of color, gay, lesbian, poor, and the disabled. If you look at some of the causes that the NAACP have championed through the years you will see that they fought for the rights of many people not just people of color.
Nae, your trying to "chuck and jive us"
Nae...go back to school and get educated and this time stay awake and pay attention "to the facts"
Nae, are you a "colored person"?
Okay! So now the NAACP has knowledge of what was said and basically gave a very very weak and lame response. Probably couldn't even be categorized as a slap on the wrist it was so lacking. If it was the other way around it would have been an outrage of a response.
Any organization dedicated to the advancement of one race is by definition a racist organization and does nothing but further the racist mentality that some idiots in this country have. Better to be for the advancement of US citizens who are underprivilegedand struggling people of all races. Race slavery is long since over and shouldn't be used as motivation for forming groups. We are all slaves to the government these days. Better to fight together to free ourselves from that Tyranny. They fight as one to keep us dependent on them so they retain their power.
Nae -
Typical lefist liberal socalist entitlement demanding double standard BS!
Being "of color" excludes you from being racist?
As long as the Democrats keep enabling you to feel inferior, you will be. Quit blaming everyone else for your personal lack of accomplishment.
Ironically enough, the founder of the NAACP, Mary White Ovington was a white woman....
It was 24 years ago. She told the story as an anecdote to say SHE WAS WRONG.
The "White Farmers" wife is Standing by her.
How many of you have done something wrong and you tell the story to show how you learned a lesson.
Farmer's wife says fired USDA official helped save their land:
http://www.ajc.com/news/farmers-wife-says-fired-574027.html
Your are nuts! The Universe did not exist 24 years ago.
Here Here Justin! How the blacks are racist is out of control. I too am sorry for what happened years ago, but today is quite different. My husband had kids come in to school and tell him they no longer had to listen to a white man because they had a black president now. Obviously that is being taught in the home and racism against the white man is being taught in their homes. How about treating everyone equally and not perpetuating the situation by teaching ignorance in their home.
it was wrong what they did to lthe blacks, but it was also wrong what was done to the Native American Indain. The blacks had it easy on the plantations in the South most of the time, compared to the life the Indains had to live, at least they had a place to sleep, food such as it was, Yes they were mistreated and they needed to be set free. The American Indian had nothing, were promised food, land of their own, Our government at that time condoned the murders, rape, starvation, lied to them, stole from them, let them starve, the were murdered, their women and children were raped and killed. They were beaten.They had no freedom, they had no rights, The Indians were used as slaves also. they were considered scum of the earth. So Afro Americans, consider your self lucky; there are people all overthis world' whose life has been as bad or worse as your ancestors. There were blackslave traders as well as white. That was another generation, this isnow. There is no place in our government for people like Shirley Sherrod, she is a racist, and working as a government employee in USDA.!!!! As the old saying goes "Black is black and white is white , there is no grey shades in between" This is another way of saying people are equal, but are still racist an bigots. How many others did she decide to ruin before this came to light. There is no excuse for what she did. The very people who attended this event were all racists, except the one who brought it to light. Then he or she had to really do some soul searching as to to open this can of worms. This was a racist and bigot crowd of people in this meeting. They were hearing what they wanted to hear or they would have walked out. Any decent person would have done lhat. How many other Afro Americans do we have in government positions that feel the same as this woman. This lady delibertly undermind this white persons lively hood, by her own statement. " I only did enought, and sent him to a white lawyer. She did it out of hate and bigotry. I believe that the people who head this organiztions such as NCAAP, Supreme court or any other organization that deals with any rights the American people have, should be well monitored. The Us Supeme Court Justices should not be permanet. I don't thind the president should make the decision who he wants to be nominated for the supreme court, our senators and congressmen an women should have a say so, then the hearings can begin. I believe the the person is coached and he or she will tell them. Senate and Congress want to hear I feel that any white person who she helped in her time with USDA should be reviewed and the wrong should be righted. She should be made to pay for the harm she has done to these peoples lives, the pain she inflected, the worry of howthey and their family would survive. Never heard that she did the same thing to a black man. She says""I just gave him enough and sent him to a white lawyer" I, myself, have never thought much of what Sarah Palin has had to say in her speeches, but this is one time I agree whole heartly with her on the comments she made about this story. I am not a bigot or a racist, I believe in equal rights. If this had been a white woman working for the USDA, this outcry from the black community and NAACP and lets don't forget Jesse Jackson as well, would have made the earth rumble and heads would roll. Are thes jobs with the USDA choosen or do they just apply for the job. and get and a government seat with the power it seems to have with peoples lives. "What comes around in this world, goes around .This Shirley Sherrod is getting hers now!!!!
I think we are being too hard on Shirley. The speech was 40 min long, and the 3 min clip misses the message completely. I too was furious with what was aired, but now that Ihave heard more of the speech and the time-line of what happen I understand. The family just got off TV thanking her for saving their Farm. I bet Fox wont show that!! I blame the Media for planting all this Racism on both sides so we can be angry at each other.
Whether she "saved" their farm or not, what she said was shameful, and completely racist. She should be doing EVERYTHING she can for EVERYONE she is assigned to "help". We can't blame the media for what she said. I agree that the media sensationalizes these stories for their gain, and at our expense. However, the only person I can be angry with is the racist who said it. She speaks for herself, and other racists who hold her same beliefs, but she does not speak for everyone. She should have been fired, not allowed to resign.
So we need to weed out every single person in Congress who has said or done something racist in the past ...ok so lets start with John McCain and work our way through the rest of the Republican party. Lets not even talk about Fox News they would be left with no employees LOL.....
The average "non Fox-news watching" American is too smart to fall for this obvious tactic to deflect attention from the racist Tea Party. I am just waiting to see someone I know or work with marching with the Tea Party. I am instantly labeling you a racist...sorry that's it...racist or ignorant ...or both.
Shorty, the fact that whjat she did was racist and wrong was EXACTLY her POINT. That is why she told the story. Overcoming her racism and doing her job in as color-blind a way as she could ended in doing this man a lot of good and making a good friend in the process. She became a better person and a better employee as well. She is on the video offering an ANECDOTE about her past as illustration of racism and the problems it creates to an audience comprised of members of a group dedicated to eradicating racism.
WHY should she have been fired? Why should she have resigned? The Tea Partiers created this story - they clipped the video so that the whoile story is not told and her story is misconstrued so that idiots like you would jump on their racist bandwagon - and LOOK! It worked! Now, back to the shallow end of the gene pool with you.
A few things most can agree on:
All white people, to include Tea Partiers and Republicans are not racist or bigots. I know because I fit all of the above.
Anyone can be a racist - Blacks too! Just proved that, again. Not a bust, just a fact. Calm down.
If you live with your race on your sleeve in today's society, you need to get a life because your pathetic. Otherwise let the "race card die" and let things stand for their own merits, to include people.
Race is a volatile issue. People are proud of who they are. Lets keep that pride in check.
Lastly, the news media and certain organizations to include members of the Democratic Party, NAACP, and even some Caucasian organizations are RACE BAITERS! They exist for a certain market and sometimes, good or bad, they get overzealous in protecting their base.
I agree, like Unions, the NAACP is struggling to define itself as an organization since the big issues concerning racism no longer exist or no longer are the focal issues. Not saying blacks do not have major hurdles to overcome but we are all equal. Racism will never go away, but at some point we need to get past the reasons for the creation of the NAACP. NOW IS THE TIME. Or we are going to see more race based organizations form to protect their turf.
It is about America, the US of A. When I saluted the flag this morning it was still red, white and blue! Whether I like it or "not", I still have an elected president.
OOORAH Semper Fi
Well said Jarhead,where did you get all that wisdom? Oh ya, that's right, you are part of the US Navy ! lol
Really? Fascinating. You saluted the flag this morning? Do you do that every morning? Gee, you must love this country more than I do (eye-roll).
Exactly how does one go about "baiting" a race? Was that what the Tea Partiers were doing when they screamed "Ngger!" at a black congressman? As , by your own admission, blacks have "major hurdles to overcome", the NAACP still has a valid reason for existing. As its focus is on ending racisn, it sounds like they have a lot of work to do, wouldn't you say? So, now is obviously NOT the time. Read a few posts written here, by your your fellow fellow conservative tea partiers who do not consider themselves racist (and who should not consider themselves literate, either). By the way - I am white and I am a member of the NAACP - along with many other people of many different races. It is not an exclusive group, and it never has been.
There's a $100K reward fro proff of th N word being used at the Teaparty event. Not even the congressman has stepped forward to claim it.
The NAACP, by its very name, is a racist organization. Just as BET is.
Had to disconnect my brain in order to read that...and yes I've attended one of their events just to see what it was about where one sign read "STOP THE N----R NOW!!", one with his face on a raccoon body, another with his face on a monkey body, and a couple other equally colorful ones about a domestic terrorist that need erradicated also with his face on it. Next question.
Nae, I feel for you, you're one of the precious few people here with any sense. Old West, it's shuck and jive, not chuck and jive.
The notion that the NAACP by its nature is racist is so ignorant I don't even know if it's worth wasting the energy to address it. The NAACP was started when black people would get their skulls cracked open if they tried to sit at a lunch counter, or if they were caught using a bathroom or drinking fountain that wasn't labeled "Blacks Only", and were lynched freely. Yes, things are much better now, but if you think white racism against blacks or minorities of color no longer exists at all, you are deaf, blind and very dumb. This woman told a story of how her first encounter with a white man who copped a "superior attitude" with her made her consider, for a moment, of doing to him what white people had done to her all her life, but she rose above it and realized he needed her help as much as anyone and she did safe him and his wife from bankruptcy and enabled him to keep his farm. This is a positive story and the conservative tea party crowd is insisting on turning it ugly because that better suits their preconceived notions. More proof that white racism against blacks is alive and well.
Thank you for your service Marine.
I don't know about that Justin. Ive been black for 56 years and its not that blacks are racist against Whites, we just don't really give a F**k about your perception of superiority, or trust your words or actions, based on past and present experience. We are more concerned with your denial of inherent advantages to being white in America. P.S. for those of you who are disturbed at the laughter from the crowd at the NAACP calm down it was only an acknowledgement of shared a experience from an audience who are subjected to some form of racism everyday nothing quite as vicious as the hate being written by some of us.
Justin: I agree. Lots of white people died freeing the slaves....blacks were not the only ones that suffered back then. I think the race card needs to be put to bed!
Everyone wants equal rights...that means no "special favors" ...no matter what color you are! but, it isn't like that. White christians seem to be discriminated against now days. Teachers let black kids get away with things in school that would never be allowed to a white kid....because they are afraid of being accused of discrimination or being called a racist. there are no "all white schools" but there are all black colleges, but the white people do not complain. i just wish these "crutches" would be done away with. everyone needs to be responsible for their own actions. white and black! blacks have butchered our english language, walk around with their pants so low their butts show, and yet still cry "woe is me"...how long is this going to go on? if people (white, black, brown or yellow) want to be respected, then please START SHOWING SOME RESPECT. A lot of people have shed blood and given their lives for what we all have now. Just show some respect and appreciate what we have NOW.
The NAACP was founded by a white woman (Mary Ovington). MANY NAACP presidents have been white. Especially in the beginning, (1920s') when racism in this country was @ its all time high. There are many card carrying members of the NAACP who are white.
BET is no longer, black owned. It is now run by Viacom.
Neish1920 --- Ovington (white social worker) was only one of the Niagara Movement.There were 32 blacks who gathered and eventually formed the NAACP, among them Du Bois (black),William English Walling (black). While its origins were purportedly to defend equality for blacks, whites, and many religions, they have strayed.
"Its mission is "to ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate racial hatred and racial discrimination." -- OK, I'm fine with this.
BUT:
"The NAACP bestows the annual Image Awards for achievement in the arts and entertainment, and the annual Spingarn Medals for outstanding positive achievement of any kind, on deserving African Americans." Why only blacks?
"Departments within the NAACP govern areas of action. Local chapters are supported by the Branch and Field Services department and the Youth and College department. The Legal Department focuses on court cases of broad application to minorities, such as systematic discrimination in employment, government, or education. The Washington, D.C., bureau is responsible for lobbying the U.S. government, and the Education Department works to improve public education at the local, state and federal levels. The goal of the Health Division is to advance health care for minorities through public policy initiatives and education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People
I found the following about Benjamin Jealous quite interesting. Suspicious election! I wonder who the other qualified candidates were? ==
"Jealous was elected by the NAACP National Board of Directors in a 34-21 vote. CNN reported that "no one clapped or celebrated," according to one board member after the meeting.[1] According to CNN, Jealous was the only finalist presented by the search committee to the full board for consideration despite there being other qualified candidates. Although some board members wanted to examine two others whom the search committee identified as finalists, Jealous's supporters, including Chairman Julian Bond, prevented their presentation to the board."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Jealous
It's noteworthy that Julian Bond (black), has done little for any race except for black people. This doesn't sound like someone who upholds the NAACP's supposedly all-encompassing mission.
These few examples don't lead me to believe that the NAACP, no matter what its mission statement may say, is fair-minded and embraces ALL races.
NJ, OMG you are so right! The NAACP is an imperfect organization made up of imperfect people. Who knew?
The whole thing got started by a blooger that edited a clip for maximum impact to stir up his base. Something that happens every day. The tragedy here is that people, trying to prove they are even handed, made snap decisions that proved to be the wrong ones. Unfortunately there are too many people willing to take ANYTHING put out by people that agree with their preconceived idea without any critical thought or research.
@ NJ, blacks arent the only award winners. Take a look @ the home page, you will see a few of the past winners, all who whom are not black. http://www.naacpimageawards.net/41/home/
Another important piece you left out of your cut and past from the site:
“The NAACP Image Awards is the nation's premier event celebrating the outstanding achievements and performances of people of color in the arts (motion picture, television, recording, and literature), as well as those individuals or groups who promote social justice through their creative endeavors.
The statement “as well as” means, “including.” So that means that its blacks are not the exclusive winners.
As for the founders,
‘Founding group
The NAACP was formed partly in response to the continuing horrific practice of lynching and the 1908 race riot in Springfield, the capital of Illinois and resting place of President Abraham Lincoln. Appalled at the violence that was committed against blacks, a group of white liberals that included Mary White Ovington and Oswald Garrison Villard, both the descendants of abolitionists, William English Walling and Dr. Henry Moscowitz issued a call for a meeting to discuss racial justice. Some 60 people, seven of whom were African American (including W. E. B. Du Bois, Ida B. Wells-Barnett and Mary Church Terrell), signed the call, which was released on the centennial of Lincoln's birth.
A group of 5 white people issued the call. 60 people came, and only 7 of them were black. The above information was taken from the website. www.naacp.org
Neish1920 I use ignore when dealing with the likes of trolls like NJ
Now that there is some funny stuff, coming from someone with a TROLL inspired name like "anti-christian"
Irony
Beer summit anyone?
Yep,
Bring out the beer while you read this. warning you have to read it. This is NOT a VIDEO
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1979/2/79.02.04.x.html
I bet you can find volumes in print on how the Christians were persecuted, enslaved, and tortured to death by the the Italians (Romans), but doyou you see the average person (Christian) still wanting compensation?
I agree with GDB... Christians were persecuted for many yrs under the
(Romans) Italians. Until Caesar made it legal for Christianity and Emperor Constantine. Was
the 1st christian emperor of Rome. Now 85% of Italians are Christians (catholic). I think
the woman's words were taken out of context. If you listen to her WHOLE speech. It wasn't racist at all. It was about putting our racial differences aside to help each other. The NAACP isn't a racist organization my parents & grandpa are members. I have a white boyfriend who my parents love to death && white friends who call my mom "mom".
GDB, Christians were persecuted 2000+ years ago. Jews were stripped of their property and and possessions and enslaved in work camps and put to their death for the crime of being Jewish 70 years ago. They are still being compensated. African Americans are arguably STILL being persecuted for their skin color (read some of the mindlessly hostile posts on this site if you don't believe that) - and certainly they were being persecuted in my lifetime. Segregated bathrooms and drinking fountains and public transportation, employment discrimination - the civil rights era, busing riots, integration, church bombings, assasination of civic leaders - all something many African-Americans living today personally experienced. My grandmother's baby-sitter was a former slave - we aren't talking about ancient history here.
Are you telling me that if your father had been beaten when he tried to attend high school in the district where he lived and where his parents paid taxes simply due to the color of his skin, you would not feel the effect of that experience? What if your mother had been at Sunday School one day and some racist moron threw a bomb into the church and killed off 5 of her friends? What if you knew your grandfather to be the smartest person you had ever met - but his parents, former slaves, never had the money or opportunity to send him to college - so he share-cropped for someone who was unfair in his payment practices, so your dad wasn't able to go to college, so you're the first person in your family who even has the hope of attending? WHat if the descendants of the family your great-grand parents were slaves to were filthy rich, off of investments made from riches realized on the labor of SLAVES? Might be a little hard for you to swallow.
So keep your ignorant yap shut about Christians being in the same boat as African-Americans but far too noble to demand reparation.
chacha
I couldn't of said it better myself. I slap you five!:) >>>**
Sometimes, I'm embarassed to be "white". It makes me shudder to think that there are people that are still being taught that there is a difference between races, religions, creeds or national origin. Of course we're different. If ereybody was the same, it would make for a very boring world. I'm from Irish (pastey white) immigrants who were discriminated against. I do not believe that anyone posting on this site that is racist has one clue about the battles that their ancestors went through to make this a great country to live. I for one am offended that anyone can actually have an opinion that because you are hispanic, black, white, yellow or green, that are less deserving of the world that strong men and women have provided for them. If you want to sacrifice to create your "eutopia"...sorry to break it to you...it's not going to happen here!
This administration is the most incompetent this country has seen in its modern life time. Job destroying, Future robbing, Country destroying idiots.
They never investigate the outcome of their blatent stupidity. Case in point!
Sandyshores - you comments should be directed at the BUSH administration. People had been losing their homes and jobs since 2006 and its only when Wall Street collapse did anyone decide to take notice. The incomptent, job destorying, future robbing government was ran by the last president.
You know what amazes me, people jump on the government about the need to fire this woman when they thought it was one story.. and they jump on the government about this woman being unjustly fire and that the government should have done a full investigation. And this is all based on a story brought forth by a conservative site and a conservative news organization. Yet no one blames these people for manipulating the story. So if people are saying "why didn't the gov do a proper investigation"? I guess that means that they government should know that Fox News and conservatives aren't truthful. The media is now trying to deflect blame from itself...
Here's my point... you ALL point the blame REGARDLESS at the Obama Administration and not put any blame on FOX and others. I can tell you one thing... a good news person should always investigate before rushing to report.
FOX? For telling the facts?
So let me try to understand this.
The woman treated the white farmer like a lower class citizen, and bragged about it to an NAACP group this past march. But since it was done 24 years ago, and part of her speech wasn't shown on the video originally, it's no big deal? Bull@!$%#! She's a racist pure and simple.
I saw the unedited video. Fox News and the neocon site they got it from maliciously took what she said out of context. When you compare the video to the edited version that Fox News ran, anyone would get a totally different impression about the woman.
Vilsack jumped the gun as did Jealous in demanding she be fired, and both are now recanting after they saw the whole video.
The white farmers she helped were recently interviewed by news reporters and they said they were grateful for all the help they got from her back in 1986, and they didn't think she was being racist at all. And, they said they didn't understand why those people were claiming all of those untrue things about her. (If you want proof, just Google it).
According to Rupert Murdock's NewsCorp written disclaimers, Fox News isn't a news channel, it's designed to be a media marketing outlet; there is a big difference between the two. Unfortunately, viewers mistaken its shiny video packaging and sharp presentations as a legitimate source for balanced and truthful news reporting.
Maybe we need to see the whole video but what we saw was pure racism. Not sure how any of that can be taken out of context unless it was prefaced by I used to be a racists and think like this.
Are you serious? Fixed News jumped all over this story and didn't bother to check anything. Now the Administration also made a mistake and they are trying to rectify the situation. They were wrong not to wait until the facts were checked, but where is the apology from Fixed News? And all the wrong resignation or cabinet firings under the Bush Administration like Paul O'Neill, Colin Powell and a host of others. Someone disagrees with that idiot of a President, and Bush would make sure they either were fired or forced to resign. General Shinseki was fired for telling Rumsfeld the aftermath would take several hundred thousand troops and ten years. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz who had no clue disagreed and said we would be greeted as liberators. Bush lied us into the Iraq war, didn’t listen to his Generals, and fired anyone who disagreed. The Bush administration was the most corrupt in American History. Rome wasn’t built in a day and after the Elephants left there mess, we need to clean it up. Bush lied and soldiers died. This sitting President was handed huge messes. How much could anybody do in 1 ½ years when the destruction took 8 years?
Darrell and 99ss - seriously? You read a story concerning an unscrupulous neo-conservative group running a severely edited clip of a video deliberately altered to present the speaker as racist - and you are having a hard time getting "this straight" and are wondering if "maybe" you should watch the whole video? Then, without watching the whole video, you decide she is racist anyway and post something to that effect? You're "not sure" how it can be taken out of context? There is a good reason why the educated world sees you and your politics as narrow minded and smugly ignorant. The two of you are a prime example of smug ignorance.
Let me help you out. First, WATCH the whole video and listen to her story. Wait (WAIT for it) for the moment when the audience laughs sardonically at her self-described wrong headed-ness. Then, take a moment and think about the plot behind this. FOX news aired this - you think they didn't ask to see the whole video before they did that? They liked the altered clip better, and they don't mind fooling you, they never mind doing that. The idea of presenting you with njews full of half trues and outright lies does not make them hesitate for a moment.
This Tea Party group didn't hesitate either, not for one second. It knew people like you would jump with both boots onto this bandwagon without questioning their motives - they're not even worried about being caught out in doing it. They KNOW you'd rather believe their lies than the truth - they know you want your own narrow mindedness backed up, not refuted and proved wrong.
So do us all a favor and do your non-thinking quietly and in the privacy of your own home, morons.
Hey dummy she did not treat them any less read the story!! if anything she went out of her way to save their farm.. if you do not believe it ask the farmer and the farmer's wife... how hard is to see the whole article?
As a black man.....I do believe people of all races do have some tendecies to be racist, so I like to see it attacked on all sides. In this particular situation, the whole tape needs to be watched before you can effectively make up your mind.
I feel bad for this woman. Shame on the NAACP and the USDA for believing anything posted by the same people that offered up edited tapes of ACORN.
Those people obviously have no qualms about making stuff up. Why anyone would believe anything they post is beyond me.
I think a lot of everyone including myself jumped the gun on this story and made some ignorant and arrogant remarks. You should always hear the whole story before any comments are made period and I agree with Steve-2039677 I don't care who you are or who you pronounce yourself to be because in one way or the other we all have shared in some racist remarks or carry some form of racism within us. I don't believe it is something to be ashamed of but it is something that we all should learn to work with and better ourselves.
I also believe that this website that released this footage should share in some responsibility for the outrage it caused with editing the tapes to send a different message to cause a eruption of hate.
Mrs.Sherrod in my opinion should have kept that message to herself even though it might not have been spoke to hurt or harm it could have been something just simply left unsaid. I think in the way it was found from the NAACP convention or meeting was a poor way to acknowledge that she had some personal feelings at first about helping a white man simply because he thought he was inferior to her but at the same time she should have been able to explain herself and her position before they even thought about asking for a resignation. In the aspect of the way the USDA handled it was discriminating towards her and her right to justify herself or being able to defend her position.
I have many hard working black co-workers I work with daily and have the utmost respect for them. They don't lounge around and ask what do i get..I deserve this or that. They work for what they are entitled to.
Like I said we all have some tendency to go off on a half cocked racist rant and there isn't one soul in this world that would tell me they haven't because to do so would be a straight out lie.
FAUX news has never been know to report truth or facts! It is not their priority!
They are pandering to an audience that wants these types of lies told to them.
ACORN video... FAKE edited... thrown out of court.. but the never retracted or corrected any of their stories.
Reported Mark Foley as a DEM... never retracted the story.
They supported the impeachment of Clinton for telling lies, yet they opposed 'scooter Libby' being held accountable, for telling lies.
They hire 'entertainers' not journalists or reporters, to work on a 'NEWS' channel.
FAUX has no interest in reporting actual truth, or facts! Their audience does not want them to either.
Welcome to corporate media...
Steve - I agree. I believe that was part of the point of the USDA official's story in the tape. Her first instinct when she met the white farmer, was to treat him differently. She realized what she was doing, corrected it, and that has helped her to be a better person and able to do a better job for the 20+ years since that experience. I commend her honesty and her willingness to admit she realized her first instinct was wrong. According to her speech, and the farmer himself, she didn't offer him less assistance - she was able to help him keep his farm. Her record of work should speak for itself and hopefully the next time something like this happens, the person will get an opportunity to defend himself/herself.
I think we should be willing to admit that many of us with strong ethnic backgrounds have some preferences for our own group. I myself am descended from Irish immigrants and I like being with my group -- familiar, comfortable, etc. Having such a preference is not racism. Discriminating against others because of their racial group is racism. Ms. Sherrod used her own ability to recognize some of her preferences and avoid discirminating because of them as an inspiring story. How many times have we seen Christians confess their sin to demonstrate their faith? Same basic idea.
The real story here is how the unscrupulous misrepresented Sherrod's story for their own purposes -- and very successfully judging by the comments on this thread. They only want ot fan the flames of division and fear in America because that provides political advantage. They don't care who they hurt or defame. And the public gullibly falls right into step. The news media jump on every outrageous story because they know it will result in the kind of tempest we are seeing here. How about taking 5 minutes to look a little further before condemning a sincere woman who wants to do good?
This woman deserves an apology -- irresponsible media have cost her her job and her reputation. I think she should sue Fox news for defamation of character. At the very least, a responsible news outlet would have viewed the entire video before airing the clip. Makes you wonder about all the other stuff Fox reports, doesn't it?
well HLuckey--your words---Discriminating against others because of their racial group is racism. Just what oyou think she was doing all these years ago, She was discriminating agasinst people of color---black versus white. Plain and simple, yeah she is back tracking, she will take the job back, where else is she going to go after this? She knows where her bread is buttered and why did she even bring up this story, pretty stupid for a woman who apparently has an education. She should have known it would start a firestrom. To want to spend time with your own kind is great, but surely even you would prefer other people once in a while .
Watch Rachel's rant in the above video! It's not journalism, it's an attack on her competition. Where is the whole tape of Ms Sherrod's speech. It seems to me that any credible news agency would post it so that we, the public, can be informed.They all are about ratings not news. I really don't give a hoot about some "Talking Heads" stupid opinion. Just show me the facts. I suspect that Ms Sherrod will retire and sue everyone involved and so she should. As for msnbc's new webpage format, it sucks. I am shopping for a new home page so good-bye msnbc.
Um, fhager, you kind of missed my point. Sherrod's story is about OVERCOMING her preferences so that she could be fair. She seems to have seen her mission as assisting black farmers (was it Georgia, I'm not sure) to keep their farms. Since I don't know which non-profit she was working for, I don't know what her employer's mission was, do you? When a white farmer came in for help, she seems not to have thought it was her mission to help him. BUT SHE DID. That is the inspiring part of the story.
And if you think for one nanosecond that people (including you) don't have preferences, you need to think again. It is how we all work within the context of our preferences that counts. Shirley Sherrod was exemplary in that. And that is why her story should be told. We can all learn from it.