I totally agree with Lauren. I think that battery acid burn should be a really slow and very painful process too. Let's let it last a couple of weeks before they just fall off the perv. To harm a child in this manner deserves nothing less.
I disagree Lauren, the only thing animals like this deserve is death. It takes a doctor to administrate the chemical castration medicine and in my opinion that doctors time could be better spent on real patients with real illnesses. Now I do agree with death by battery acid administered through the openings in the skin left by a cheese grader.
I agree. If we're going to castrate male rapists, what about the females who sexually molest children too? It's not as common, but it does happen. If we are going to legislate castration for sex offenders, we cannot discriminate against one sex. Laws were made to be just, not partial.
Castration doesn't solve anything. The brains of men who rape and harm children are hard-wired to do so. Studies have shown men who are castrated continue to harbor violent fantasies and aggression towards kids.
This is NOT castration, and to call it such is nothing more than an inflammatory tactic. This is simply one more drug in the arsenal that can...and should....be used to stop criminals with a history of physical violence toward others from continuing that behavior. If they can't control themselves and pose a danger to society, society needs the ability to protect itself. Personally, in the cases cited here, I'd vote for the real thing.
We forget that in many cultures men and boys regularly cavorted, as in ancient Greece- it was socially and ethically quite acceptable. We have become slaves to certain ideologies forgetting the biological drives and customs of humans over the millennia. Of course, actual violence and disfiguration and murder must be punished, but we must also get rid of some of our modern prudery.
Wow, what a sick post. Let's hope some child preditor corn holes your son or daughter. Socially or ethically acceptable my @ss. They also had gladiators impaling people in ancient Greece.
Clarence Maloney - wow. Modern prudery? You've got to be kidding. I don't begin to understand what makes adult men (usually men, some women) rape children. I don't care if it's biological, mental, or whatever, we have to protect our children. At least this is a step in the right direction. whatelse can we do?
Clarence- Your statement verifies that neither you nor anyone you know has been sexually violated. I don't wish this on your children, it is a terrible guilt to live with. Yes, guilt. You wonder what you did to deserve it. You make yourself hideous to the outside world to protect yourself. You, mister, are so misinformed as to be pittied. Let me guess, you think the KKK was misunderstood and that Hitler was a great for population control. Idiot.
It makes me so mad that our insane thirst for political correctness and "fairness" will prevent this form of treatment from passing into law in this country. The liberal democrates would never support this punishment. It's too "cruel and unusual." I say bull$**t to that. The South Korean's have it right.
I'm a bit disappointed after reading this article; the term "chemical castration" led me to believe they'd be using acids or whatnot to melt said parts off. To me, using chemicals to suppress their urges after they've committed their crimes isn't a fit punishment. Heck, anything short of torture doesn't seem fitting for some of the crimes listed here.
Having known someone who was falsely accused of a sex crime, I have to disagree with you about physical castration. I think chemical castration is a good substitute (if it works, that is). If it turns out the woman was herself a psychopath (as happened with my co-worker), then the chemicals can be withheld, and the guy goes back to a "normal" life (if his life can ever be normal after that).
That is pretty much the same logic as being against the death penalty - it is irreversible.
I don't know why they let them out of prison to begin with. If you deliberately and knowingly violate a child in this manner, you shouldn't have ANY rights. If it were my child, I would be waiting outside the prison gates...I think chemical castration and "therapy" is a start. Put them in general population and let the dice roll as they may is even better. and Clarence, your post is effed up.
You obviously don't have children or ever followed the Shasta Groehne case. That bastard should've never been let out. EVER. This is what I'm referring to. Obviously there needs to be overwhelming evidence like DNA so no, I am not sadistic, I am realistic.
Wow! We have this in CA and don't use it?? Yes, i agree that the real thing would be the BEST solution! maybe it will deter the next person a bit to know their sac will be on the chopping block! JUST DO IT!!!
YO check this chemical castration out on the web. This crap is weak. I say just put their balls between two bricks and clap those bastards together.
See if they ever rape or molest again. I think we should shot those people, but that is cruel. Unlike when they rape, a molest innocent people just so they can get off.
I'm with Binski. Do the real thing as in "cut them off." In fact, I'd go further-- do a "Lorena cut," leaving only the basal one-half inch of the stem. This may sound barbaric, but it seems like a sure way to stop them. These monsters cannot be cured. By the way, I'm a liberal Democrat, so don't paint all of us with a broad brush.
Nutcracker, that is sick. Sexual mutilation doesn't solve anything. It may appease your anger and frustration, but castration has been shown to be ineffective in curbing child rape. Men who rape kids often still have urges and a tendency to harm them even though they have been castrated. Their brains are hard-wired, through years of conditioning, to abuse children and treat them as sexual insignificants. It's surprising to hear how many people still ignorantly subscribe to the idea that castration is a "cure all". A lobotomy is actually the more effective and permanent remedy for child rape.
In the United States, several states including Louisiana, California, Oregon and Arizona have laws allowing chemical castration.
No suprise for Arizona the sadistic state of racism, greed and hateful people but I am California and Oregon? Crazy.
Again, its the so-called Christians that call for the most disgusting acts like torture in America. They disgrace themselves and will burn in the hell they create for others here on earth.
....With all the screaming about civil rights, cruel and unusual punishment plus a lifetime of persecution for often times minor offences like touching and sex between teens just a couple years apart in age, I think sexual offences should be catagorized by degree of assault, and punished accordingly........Once may be a mistake or the results of extenuating circumstances, but twice guilty, your it......Instead of extending sentences after time has been served or persecuting for a lifetime as a sex offender, states should give an option and require once convicted sex offenders to sign a contract agreeing to voluntary casteration, or removal of ovaries before release for a serious offence, on upon a second conviction of any sexual offence......A signed contractual agreement would not violate anyone's rights or be cruel and unusual punishment......It must be as much about fairness as punishment, convicted murderers, burgulars and bank robbers are not subjected to extended sentences or a lifetime of persecution after time has been served......... so why not be fair and either sentence them all to a life of persecution or give them a reasonable option that would protect the public and allow offenders an oppertunity at a pretty much normal life after time has been served......Personally, I have no mercy for pedifiles, but do sense a need for fairness in our justice system
Lets see your reaction if one of your own got raped. Or maybe you are one of those freaks that somehow believe that rape of anyone including a child is their own fault.
I'm more for the chemical castration than the physical. Too many people have been wrongly accused of too many things for something so permanent to be the norm. And, as one poster stated, what about female rapists?
However, I think the current system of dealing with actual sex offenders, especially violent sex offenders, are not fairly balanced either. And this is from the mouth of a victim.
Jesus Christ. I cant believe some of you are opposed to this! This new law will only apply to people who molest children at or under the age of 16 (which 44% of rape cases are) This in my opinion is too easy! what would you do if a dog permanently injured a child? You'd take it out back and shoot the damn thing! ShinyShoes made some interesting points. The first being that most people who molest children would continue to do so even after castration. I actually watched a special on datelineNBC where they interviewed multiple cons. When asked the question "would the possibility of castration deter you?" they all said "No" and that they would find other ways to do what they do!! Life in prison isnt a good idea either because it just costs tax dollars paid by you, me, and other hard working individuals.... and frankly they dont deserve it! The solution in my opinion as drastic as it may sound is the death penalty! although some of you claim its too harsh because some people may be falsely acccused, and as terrible as that may be. it can still be said about any punishment really.
So the my final thought on chemical castration is..... its not the answer. but it sure is a step in the right direction!
Wow, I'm reading a lot of comments regarding torture. I'm assuming most people here live in the US, and I firmly believe that there is no crime that warrants torture. Down that particular rabbit hole is just one giant mess waiting to happen. If its fit for pedophiles who rape children, what about statutory rape where the child is willing? What if the two are only a few years apart, say 15 and 19? Hell, why not extend it to rapists in general. And of course, murder's a worse crime than rape (in the eyes of most people) so why not toss that in too. The 8th amendment bans cruel and unusual punishment for good reason.
That being said, I think chemical castration is a fitting punishment for sexual offenders. That combined with therapy could help some of those totally screwed up individuals, which I think should be a priority for the justice system. And in the case of a false conviction, chemical castrations are not permanent.
There is a HUGE difference between statutory rape and pedophilia. You are way off the mark, here. By what proof do you say most people think murder is worse than rape? If that's so, why do many rape victims commit suicide? The rapist would be better if they didn't leave the victim to live and remember the horrible things they have done. Stupid liberals like yourself who hide behind your computer screens really piss me off. I have children, and I know that if they were ever molested by anyone, be it a teenager or an old man, I would personally see to it that they were physically castrated. And at the same time, it's people like you who have your supreme court judges simply over-rule the constitution whenever it seems too harsh. Liberals really make me laugh, they're the reason we can't get anything done, like a bunch of little school girls.
Another example of two of the things that irk me the most.
1)Christians that are so pro-torture and pro-death.
2)People that think we can simply legislate tragedy out of everyone's lives. It won't happen. Life sucks sometimes, but you can't make a bunch of restrictive laws and expect tragedy to just go away.
Awsome - Too bad it doesn't burn their balls off like battery acid. That's what they deserve and not a single ouch less....
Funny, but that's the first thing I thought of when I heard "Chemical Castration." lol
I totally agree with Lauren. I think that battery acid burn should be a really slow and very painful process too. Let's let it last a couple of weeks before they just fall off the perv. To harm a child in this manner deserves nothing less.
I disagree Lauren, the only thing animals like this deserve is death. It takes a doctor to administrate the chemical castration medicine and in my opinion that doctors time could be better spent on real patients with real illnesses. Now I do agree with death by battery acid administered through the openings in the skin left by a cheese grader.
Let's not forget the lady pervs.
I agree. If we're going to castrate male rapists, what about the females who sexually molest children too? It's not as common, but it does happen. If we are going to legislate castration for sex offenders, we cannot discriminate against one sex. Laws were made to be just, not partial.
I think the doctors will stand in line for the opportunity to fix a pedophile. Some might even do it for free.
Castration doesn't solve anything. The brains of men who rape and harm children are hard-wired to do so. Studies have shown men who are castrated continue to harbor violent fantasies and aggression towards kids.
This is NOT castration, and to call it such is nothing more than an inflammatory tactic. This is simply one more drug in the arsenal that can...and should....be used to stop criminals with a history of physical violence toward others from continuing that behavior. If they can't control themselves and pose a danger to society, society needs the ability to protect itself. Personally, in the cases cited here, I'd vote for the real thing.
We forget that in many cultures men and boys regularly cavorted, as in ancient Greece- it was socially and ethically quite acceptable. We have become slaves to certain ideologies forgetting the biological drives and customs of humans over the millennia. Of course, actual violence and disfiguration and murder must be punished, but we must also get rid of some of our modern prudery.
Wow, what a sick post. Let's hope some child preditor corn holes your son or daughter. Socially or ethically acceptable my @ss. They also had gladiators impaling people in ancient Greece.
Yeah, practice it in General Population.
Clarence Maloney - wow. Modern prudery? You've got to be kidding. I don't begin to understand what makes adult men (usually men, some women) rape children. I don't care if it's biological, mental, or whatever, we have to protect our children. At least this is a step in the right direction. whatelse can we do?
Clarence- Your statement verifies that neither you nor anyone you know has been sexually violated. I don't wish this on your children, it is a terrible guilt to live with. Yes, guilt. You wonder what you did to deserve it. You make yourself hideous to the outside world to protect yourself. You, mister, are so misinformed as to be pittied. Let me guess, you think the KKK was misunderstood and that Hitler was a great for population control. Idiot.
It is not modern prudery.
Pervert
@Clarence, we are talking about rape here. The world has changed. Its not prudery
@lloyd S Your comment has been reported. No one should hope for anything like that to happen. Your comment is just as bad as Clarence's.
It makes me so mad that our insane thirst for political correctness and "fairness" will prevent this form of treatment from passing into law in this country. The liberal democrates would never support this punishment. It's too "cruel and unusual." I say bull$**t to that. The South Korean's have it right.
I'm a bit disappointed after reading this article; the term "chemical castration" led me to believe they'd be using acids or whatnot to melt said parts off. To me, using chemicals to suppress their urges after they've committed their crimes isn't a fit punishment. Heck, anything short of torture doesn't seem fitting for some of the crimes listed here.
It would be at least a step in the right direction in this country.
PJ, a step in the right direction in any country
Having known someone who was falsely accused of a sex crime, I have to disagree with you about physical castration. I think chemical castration is a good substitute (if it works, that is). If it turns out the woman was herself a psychopath (as happened with my co-worker), then the chemicals can be withheld, and the guy goes back to a "normal" life (if his life can ever be normal after that).
That is pretty much the same logic as being against the death penalty - it is irreversible.
I don't know why they let them out of prison to begin with. If you deliberately and knowingly violate a child in this manner, you shouldn't have ANY rights. If it were my child, I would be waiting outside the prison gates...I think chemical castration and "therapy" is a start. Put them in general population and let the dice roll as they may is even better. and Clarence, your post is effed up.
Maybe you should pray to god to firgive your sadistic disgusting nature towards others.
Maybe you should experience being falsely accused of a crime and be put into the general population.
You obviously don't have children or ever followed the Shasta Groehne case. That bastard should've never been let out. EVER. This is what I'm referring to. Obviously there needs to be overwhelming evidence like DNA so no, I am not sadistic, I am realistic.
Wow! We have this in CA and don't use it?? Yes, i agree that the real thing would be the BEST solution! maybe it will deter the next person a bit to know their sac will be on the chopping block! JUST DO IT!!!
YO check this chemical castration out on the web. This crap is weak. I say just put their balls between two bricks and clap those bastards together.
See if they ever rape or molest again. I think we should shot those people, but that is cruel. Unlike when they rape, a molest innocent people just so they can get off.
I'm with Binski. Do the real thing as in "cut them off." In fact, I'd go further-- do a "Lorena cut," leaving only the basal one-half inch of the stem. This may sound barbaric, but it seems like a sure way to stop them. These monsters cannot be cured. By the way, I'm a liberal Democrat, so don't paint all of us with a broad brush.
Nutcracker
Nutcracker, that is sick. Sexual mutilation doesn't solve anything. It may appease your anger and frustration, but castration has been shown to be ineffective in curbing child rape. Men who rape kids often still have urges and a tendency to harm them even though they have been castrated. Their brains are hard-wired, through years of conditioning, to abuse children and treat them as sexual insignificants. It's surprising to hear how many people still ignorantly subscribe to the idea that castration is a "cure all". A lobotomy is actually the more effective and permanent remedy for child rape.
In the United States where the bad guys have more rights than the victim, nothing like this will ever come to law.
In the United States, several states including Louisiana, California, Oregon and Arizona have laws allowing chemical castration.
No suprise for Arizona the sadistic state of racism, greed and hateful people but I am California and Oregon? Crazy.
Again, its the so-called Christians that call for the most disgusting acts like torture in America. They disgrace themselves and will burn in the hell they create for others here on earth.
Says the filthy anti-american child molester! You my friend will know nothing but hell.
....With all the screaming about civil rights, cruel and unusual punishment plus a lifetime of persecution for often times minor offences like touching and sex between teens just a couple years apart in age, I think sexual offences should be catagorized by degree of assault, and punished accordingly........Once may be a mistake or the results of extenuating circumstances, but twice guilty, your it......Instead of extending sentences after time has been served or persecuting for a lifetime as a sex offender, states should give an option and require once convicted sex offenders to sign a contract agreeing to voluntary casteration, or removal of ovaries before release for a serious offence, on upon a second conviction of any sexual offence......A signed contractual agreement would not violate anyone's rights or be cruel and unusual punishment......It must be as much about fairness as punishment, convicted murderers, burgulars and bank robbers are not subjected to extended sentences or a lifetime of persecution after time has been served......... so why not be fair and either sentence them all to a life of persecution or give them a reasonable option that would protect the public and allow offenders an oppertunity at a pretty much normal life after time has been served......Personally, I have no mercy for pedifiles, but do sense a need for fairness in our justice system
The commenters are sicker than the perverts who raped children.
Its usually the same pro torture christians on every story commenting.
Vindictive, sadistic pathetic human beings. Off yourselves because you are the reson society creates such pervs and degenerates.
Lets see your reaction if one of your own got raped. Or maybe you are one of those freaks that somehow believe that rape of anyone including a child is their own fault.
I'm more for the chemical castration than the physical. Too many people have been wrongly accused of too many things for something so permanent to be the norm. And, as one poster stated, what about female rapists?
However, I think the current system of dealing with actual sex offenders, especially violent sex offenders, are not fairly balanced either. And this is from the mouth of a victim.
Jesus Christ. I cant believe some of you are opposed to this! This new law will only apply to people who molest children at or under the age of 16 (which 44% of rape cases are) This in my opinion is too easy! what would you do if a dog permanently injured a child? You'd take it out back and shoot the damn thing! ShinyShoes made some interesting points. The first being that most people who molest children would continue to do so even after castration. I actually watched a special on datelineNBC where they interviewed multiple cons. When asked the question "would the possibility of castration deter you?" they all said "No" and that they would find other ways to do what they do!! Life in prison isnt a good idea either because it just costs tax dollars paid by you, me, and other hard working individuals.... and frankly they dont deserve it! The solution in my opinion as drastic as it may sound is the death penalty! although some of you claim its too harsh because some people may be falsely acccused, and as terrible as that may be. it can still be said about any punishment really.
So the my final thought on chemical castration is..... its not the answer. but it sure is a step in the right direction!
Wow, I'm reading a lot of comments regarding torture. I'm assuming most people here live in the US, and I firmly believe that there is no crime that warrants torture. Down that particular rabbit hole is just one giant mess waiting to happen. If its fit for pedophiles who rape children, what about statutory rape where the child is willing? What if the two are only a few years apart, say 15 and 19? Hell, why not extend it to rapists in general. And of course, murder's a worse crime than rape (in the eyes of most people) so why not toss that in too. The 8th amendment bans cruel and unusual punishment for good reason.
That being said, I think chemical castration is a fitting punishment for sexual offenders. That combined with therapy could help some of those totally screwed up individuals, which I think should be a priority for the justice system. And in the case of a false conviction, chemical castrations are not permanent.
There is a HUGE difference between statutory rape and pedophilia. You are way off the mark, here. By what proof do you say most people think murder is worse than rape? If that's so, why do many rape victims commit suicide? The rapist would be better if they didn't leave the victim to live and remember the horrible things they have done. Stupid liberals like yourself who hide behind your computer screens really piss me off. I have children, and I know that if they were ever molested by anyone, be it a teenager or an old man, I would personally see to it that they were physically castrated. And at the same time, it's people like you who have your supreme court judges simply over-rule the constitution whenever it seems too harsh. Liberals really make me laugh, they're the reason we can't get anything done, like a bunch of little school girls.
B.S.
Castration YES!
But make it physical castration on any repeat or violent sex offender.
Then, after serving time, send the bastard out on the streets on probation to fend
for himself. Why feed the bastard any longer then is necessary?
Warren Ogren
10035 N Ogren Road
Hayward, WI 54843
Another example of two of the things that irk me the most.
1)Christians that are so pro-torture and pro-death.
2)People that think we can simply legislate tragedy out of everyone's lives. It won't happen. Life sucks sometimes, but you can't make a bunch of restrictive laws and expect tragedy to just go away.