Natalee Holloway suspect now denies he killed Peruvian woman, paper says
Van der Sloot: I was 'tricked' into confessing
Seeded on Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:57 AM EDT (msnbc.com)
— Filed under: world-news, americas, crime, general-news, violent-crime, natalee-holloway, joran-van-der-sloot


Someone please shoot this piece of s**t, and save us all from anymore of his crap.
goddess - I suggest you grow up. That wasn't even funny.
Seriously, this guy is nuts! This "I didn't know what I was signing" crap is such BS. Now that he is sleeping with rats and murderers, he may have a little regret for confessing but everything except the actual murder itself is on tape......he can't get away with it this time!! Time to say goodbye once and for all to this murderer!!
Goddess, Epic fail at an Obama slam.. That was weak. You must be a laugh riot at parties..
Too bad he made his confession verbally (and it is recorded) in front of his own lawyer. Interesting to see that he is now playing the "mentally disturbed" card- that has never come up at any time.
Mentally disturbed, no doubt. Don't you have to be to kill someone.? What I can't fathom is why we keep this kind of "mentally disturbed" people around after a recorded and signed confessions. Does Peru use the death penalty?
Jeremy,
Acutally no, Peru doesn't have the death penalty. But the prison he is in is a rather notorious $hithole. Slop for food, rats, lots killers. I've heard it's makes the turkish prison in Midnight Express look like a Holiday Inn. Fores' father has influence in Peru, much like van der Sloot's father had influence in Aruba... Right now, he's in a "special" section" away from the general population. He probably won't last a month in there, once he's convicted...and sentenced, I'm sure someone in the Flores family will pay off someone to "take care" of him while in prison.
Goddess-
Once again tea bagging ,or clan rally, banter is not acceptable here. This article IS NOT about Obama, or politics. Keep your white supremacist garbage out of here.
This story is about two people who have been killed by a raving psychotic. Why don't you step away from your burning cross and think of the two girls senselessly killed by this nut bar.
And remember this country would be in much better shape if people like you didn't spend all their time politically polarizing every issue possible.
It's illegal, by the way, to make physical threats against someone. Probably not a good idea to do it in writing, by the way, but I'm no lawyer.
Anyway, let's all the Peruvian courts to work this out.
I don't know what happened, I really don't. What IF, just what if, this guy was set up? It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Shooting him would be merciful. Let him live with the rats the rest of his life.
MaTT-1214795, but it's just fine for you to use this space to slam the tea party members and equate them with the clan (complete with references to burning crosses), all under the guise of "don't use these posts to further your agenda".... Hypocrisy at it's best (or worst)....
Damn it sure would be a shame if the Columbian assassin practiced his unarmed take outs on Mr. van der Sloot !! Then again the General may well have some termination skills too!! One more thing, set up?? Are you serious?? Two women in the company of this jerk wind up dead on the same day five years apart and you think he was set up?? If he was set up it was by the voices in his head, not some outside force!
Sorry, no one feels any sympathy for a killer. They didn't make any physical threats to him, and even if they did he deserved all that was coming to him BECAUSE HE KILLED A TEENAGE GIRL. People seem to forget that. Don't be sympathetic to a killer. In cases like this, the punishment fits the crime, in my opinion. I'd rather not pay to house killers for the rest of their sad pathetic lives, thanks!
He was "tricked" into confessing the same way those "girls" were TRICKED into being KILLED!
It is illegal and whoever would put it in writing just makes it that much easier for law enforcement.
Matt, please be sure to comment below on Crazy Clowns post about fitting in with the previous admin......and dont forget to add
"And remember this country would be in much better shape if people like you didn't spend all their time politically polarizing every issue possible"
Thanks and Have a nice day!
That said: van der Sloot is guilty 99.9% and if its good enough to prove paternity..lol...then its good enough to convict.
Thats to easy for him. first extract infomation on the were abouts of Natalie Holloway' Body and implicate others in volved. Extract the information so the he will certainly have parts he will miss.
Of course there are other in volved he is to stupid to carry it out by himself.
Maybe we should wait till he passes out and then toss him in the ocean!!
My feelings EXACTLY!!
I agree! Enough of this nut and his stupid lies!
in the head,.....like the monster he is....thats what they do to zombies
Oh how the mighty has fallen!!! It's a long long ways from being the darling of your parents eye and growing up in spoiled rotten, over-indugled, self-serving, rich kid life style to the bowls of Castro Castro. No wonder he's freakin' out. I feel great empathy for people struggling with a serious mental illness but HIS case, I have no sympathy for him. Too bad, so sad!
I use to transport people with a wide variety of pyshical and mental conditions. The average person has little knowledge that the "normal-looking" person next to them may have a debilitating mental illness. Most "normal" people can't imagine the hell a person with extreme mental illness faces daily trying to function in normal society.
Mental illness is still a largely ignored topic. In many cultures it is strickly taboo to talk about, even between family members. Van der Sloot is a poster child for that problem.
It always amazes me that so many parents, especially those who's fathers are in position of power, REFUSE to acknowledge their child is mentally ill. The prevailing attitude is: If you don't acknowledge it exsists then it doesn't. His parents should have had this psychopath in therapy even if he didn't want to go, the second they discovered he had beat the family dog to death as a child. Animal torture is a RED flag that worse is yet to come. And the worse HAs come for Natalie and Stepanie. Lord knows how many others have been killed by Joran during his jaunts around the world.May GOd have mercy on his soul because he's earned none here on earth by us.
Good thing they weren't using this case in "12 Angry Men".
Would've been a short movie, even if you had six Jack Lemmons.
omg how can he goes around admitting something and then change his story he wants people to think he is sick well baby that's where he belongs with rats rapist and killer maybe some one will do him the favor of raping and torture so can feel what the family of this two girls are leaving.
Couldn't agreed more.
And the good news? The world has a great chance of being rid of him because he's stupid enough to commit yet another murder in Peru. If he'd murdered another US woman, he'd simply hide the body and buy his way out again with his family's money like before. In South America there is little chance of that, especially with this family's connections to Peruvian government.
Personally, my household was simply waiting for his butt to the thrown into lock-up with other harden criminals who will surely do our work for us, if the authorities don't. Let him see before he dies or takes another defenseless woman's life what it's like to be preyed upon by those like himself.
Our sympathies to the young women's families who must be put through the horror again simply to nail this serial killer! However, as a woman living on the planet earth I am surely appreciative that you have had the courage and fortitude to continue forward in taking him out!
BJsf65 or whatever - there is nothing funny whatsoever connected to this piece of spoiled snot. I guess we can't slander Obama in any way, according to your line of thinking. I also guess ACORN has been busy today. I have seen stronger comments than the one posted by Goddess, and they haven't been attacked because Bobama was not mentioned. He will le at any opportunity to gain his freedom. How many people in jail say "I'm guilty"? Not very many I would wager. Time for you to grow mentally.
35 years of living with rats is just what this murderer deserves.
AMEN!
BillyBoy - grow up. this has NOTHING to do with politics. It's getting so old. Those who continue to drag politics into EVERYTHING just need to step back and take a deep breath. For crying out loud. Your lives must be so miserable otherwise.
Wow.
Van der Sloot is a notorious liar. He's been doing it regularly since (and perhaps before) the Holloway case first happened. Whatever drops from his lips, he will recant, and then tell another "story." That's the way he operates. He has concocted and re-concocted so many stories related to Holloway, that a tried and true mystery writer would be confused. This is no different than what he's doing now. Tell one story, recant, tell another, re-explain, tell another, "it was forced," tell another, "I was intimidated," and on and on. Again, it's his modus operandi.
As far as the Peruvian prison goes, I would imagine, once convicted, he will get the max of 35 years. On the 34th year and 364 days, I would also imagine that he will be killed or have a terrible "accident" while still incarcerated. Just my thoughts on that one.
For those who don't understand, the US can't prosecute Van der Sloot for the murder of Holloway, either. The incident happened in a Aruba, and it is under their jurisdiction as to the prosecution of the crime. (I'd love to see him prosecuted, but that's not the way international law works.)
For the people who cry "Innocent until proven guilty," that is not necessarily true in all countries. Americans make the mistake of imagining that all laws are the same throughout the world, and they're not. Just as some folks believe that it's a "free" country, they need to re-examine the limitations on "free." Homeland Security has changed or limited that "free" definition as well.
Lastly, as noted on an earlier post: Dear Peru, PLEASE, throw away the key.
Let me put this in writing ,if Joran van der Sloot's victim had been my niece or daughter (if I had a daughter) and he had a hand in or committed her murder and escaped justice for that, there would be no safe place on this earth for him because I WOULD FIND HIM, and when I did I would offer him the choice of turning himself in and offering a full confession to the authorities or suffering the consequences of NOT DOING SO!! That's no threat, it's a promise made by a combat vet and I always follow up on promises made!! It always amazes me the folks who come on the vine and have more sympathy for a MULTIPLE MURDERER than his victims. Joran van der Sloot is a cancer on society and he needs to be incarcerated and if he meets a bad end during said incarceration society will be in remission until the next cancer (multiple murderer) surfaces!!!
If he beat the family dog to death what is he going to do to the poor rats. Seems to me he is a danger no matter where he is.
Van der Sloot sure is sick in the head. The surveillance cameras told the whole story.
There is PLENTY of DNA evidence from this murder. He is determined to be stupid.
Admitting to the Natalie Holloway murder. Never!!---he should have been caught in Iran. We now would not be discussing the whys and hows. Dead by a firing squad, hung by his ears, and possibly his head cut off.
The only thing the US has to be thankful for is that he is not from this country. Otherwise, the sentence would be keeping and paying for him in our jail system.
He said he didn't do it?
Well then, they should let him go, eh?
Yeah, right.
Confessing and then retracting the confession is a pastime with Urinal van de Slops. This must be some Dutch legal maneuver that his dad taught him.
Mother and Son Van Der Snoots are BOTH being interviewed by "Der Telegraaph", a wealthy tabloid newspaper, which is probably paying hefty subject interview fees.
I sincerely doubt Count Joran will get off the hook of Peruvian Law Enforcement even though Mom Van Der Snoot is collecting excellent interview fees. The count is stuck in Castro Castro LockUp and it is obvious he is not going to walk, at least for 35years to life.
The Boy is going to get the Whole Nine Yards........
If ever there was an example for the use of a premeditated abortion, this guy is the poster boy.
And he's not even a citizen of the United States of America....where every defendant ever charged with a crime has been completely innocent of the charge.
At least she admits he killed Flores but I guess she thinks he is innocent by way of insanity. Wonder what the Peruvian Law is relative to an insanity plea.
Let's see - we've had the first Obama Bash card been played. Who's gonna be first to play the race card? (Ms. Flores is considered Hispanic and Van der Sloot is white....) And it's a matter of time before someone who's been huffing cleaning fluid will add the ever popular " It's Bush/Cheney's fault" card on pile of really DUMB comments. I mean really - How can ANYONE blame Obama - I am not a support of Obama but how stupid to blame him or Bush or try to make a racial issue out of the actions taken by this psychopatic moron? Someone will try tho.
How sad to hear the "mentally incapacitated" card being played by this monster and his mother! It makes me sick!
He admitted killing that poor girl (after seeing himself on the video cam at the casino and his hotel...) and admits to the fact that he will 'reveal the details' of the murder of Natalie Holloway in Aruba.
He deserves more than rats in his cell! He should be locked up for life in Peru and spend the rest of his miserable life locked in a cage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HA HA see ya Van Der Sloot you are as good as dead in the Peruvian prison.
Marcia
I'm going to go ahead and blame this on the typical, blonde haired, blue-eyed, Hitler loving, KKK card carrying, white supremacy elitist that we've all come to associate with these types of serial murders.
Never expected that did ya?
The point is, some people MUST stereotype to feel good about themselves.
Talk about someone playing the system! The guy is obviously on an insane ego trip. Kill the girl then play with the authorities. Thinks he's smarter than everyone else and can get away with anything. He's even trying to make a confession where the cops think they have him, then try and recant it. Don't let this slime slip through the system again. He's influential daddy the judge is dead; even his mom thinks he's nuts. Put him away under some rock and never let him see the light of day again!
I really hope he doesnt get a walk on this crime by using an insanity plead. I don't think anyone, except him, can honestly think he's a normal, sane, rational person.
Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD or APD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual as "...a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood." The individual must be age 18 or older, as well as have a documented history of a conduct disorder before the age of 15. Sound like this is a textbook description of Van der Sloot.
I am a dog lover and have friends who bred show dogs. If he were a dog from a highly prized bloodline with the most ideal conformation for his breed but displayed extreme aggressive tendencies, they would make the heart wrenching choice to put him down to protect their other dogs and humans. I think it is in the best interest of the human race if we could do the same with Antisocial Personality Disorder (sociopath) killers like Joran. It make not help Nicole's family find her body and find closure but maybe they would can gain some comfort knowing this sub-human is no longer free to ruin other families around the world.
ClintHorace - I LOVE YOU :) You didn't mean what you posted to Marcia - you're just illustrating the level of stupidity and hate that some ppl decide to spew in their posts. I get it, I get it. Genius:)
JORAN YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH!!! You are such a jackass! I'm so bored with your antics. I really wish the guys in Castro Castro would just string you up and take a torch to your tiny penis until you tell them where you put Natalee. Once that's done, they could take a 5 minute break to rest up and then they could start again. They should sodomize you with broom sticks and red-hot iron rods!!! I am soooooo sick of your lies and your endless need for attention! I have never had ill-will against another human being but... but you're not even HUMAN! You are the devil in carnate!!!
Universe, put this evil little man out of his misery, please!! For all the world's sake.
Yeah, I believe Vander sloot as much as I believe a serial killer, oh wait there two the same!
As someone who loves the Carribbean and plans on visiting there many times, if this sack of @!$%# gets off this time again, I swear on everything I own, there will be a backlash like nothing ever seen before. People are sick and tired of these well to do, pompous @!$%#s doing anything they want, and walking free. No more!!!!!
I hope if this piece of s$%t goes to prison for once, that he's tortured by the other prisioners. Anything less would not be right. Rot in hell you SOB.
1, 2.1 deleted, Jim-Arizona and goddess724 derailing about US politics. Embarrassing. You're each suspended for a day for violating #4 of the Code of Honor. Sheesh. Stay on-topic.
thank you!
Joran's grasp of the English language is a bit rudimentary. What it meant to say is that he is now turning tricks.
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Are you saying Americans have NEVER retracted a confession? Only the Dutch do this?
Fred from NC
I strongly suggest that you NEVER take the law into your own hands or YOU will be the one in the slammer.
Marcia
Thank you for your insights about people with mental illness. That is why, to a certain extent, I do feel sorry for this guy.
HOWEVER, I know his parents knew better and I am sad that they did NOTHING about it.
I do not know how many of you all know that in this country, if you believe that someone will hurt themself or others, you can petition that the person be institutionalized.
HI Karen, I also believe his parents have known a LONG time that their son has serious behavior problems. It can be overwhelming to admit your child is not perfect and seek help. But if you do not step in at the first sign of a problem and seek help, the problem is NOT going to get better and may progressivly worse over time.They failed their child on a global scale.
I CAN judge them as I have walk a mile in their shoes, so to speak. My own daughter's behavioral problems started at age 3. We would tell the Doctors if it wasn't for what we know about mental health issues she would have been a victim of child abuse or dead. (You should have seen the looks we got!) She could drive you to the point of insanity with her ODD, ADHD and LD and medical issues. We used the term "tag-team parenting" to describe our coping and parenting skills. (TAG! You're it. Take over before I kill her!) But we kept at it, got her the help she needed and learned to appreciate every little change and improvement she made. She so desperately wanted to be accepted by her peers but was well aware that she did not fit in at school and was different then other kids. She's worked hard to get to where she is today. At 27 years old she still struggles with social issues and her LD is a never ending source of frustrations for her but she keeps working to over come it. She is being successful attending regular classes (the first time in her life she does not have an IEP or modified work assignments) at the community college and is living on her own, more or less. We have to pay her rent as she can't live on the $500.00 a month she gets from SSI.
Unlike the Van der Sloot family we were not rich. We always found the money to take her to get help. With all their money they could have got it the best Doctor's available early on. Maybe if they had, Natalie and Stepanie would be alive today. And Van der Sloot is not a dummy despite his mental illness. He is well aware he has a problem and should have sought help. I wonder if he is suffering from very mild Asperger syndrome or has High-functioning autism.
This is typical behaviour for a psychotic. The peruvians have surveillance films showing that he was the only person to go into the room with Ms. Flores and the only one to come out. Of course he was "intimidated" by the Peruvian cops! They caught him dead to rights.
"Retract" all you want Mr. Van der Sloot. You are going down.
I Agree, he's a total lunitic and will say anything and do anything,,, he needs to be hooked to the electric chair and fried , for about 6 hours till he's nice and crispy !!!!
I think then maybe the should move him to general population.
Does anyone know if this hotel room had an adjoining room?
Does anyone know if this room can be accessed through a window?
Does anyone know if that the hotel has the entire night on tape, or wheter it was edited?
Let the courts decide.
Befitting to allow the Rat to lie down with rats!
Greg,
Someone (Greta, maybe??) was inside a room there just like Joran's. Very thick, hard walls (stucco or concrete??) Other guests/residents probably wouldn't have heard anything. Very small room--maybe a high, small window(??) Apparently, he'd borrowed money from her to play poker; he lost, so he owed her money. She possibly was following him to be repaid--that was a guess the reporter said.
Apparently, both the girl & Joran were frequent poker players; he'd lost his money that night. I always wondered why she walked with her head down as she followed him to his room. The report said she may have gone to his room to be repaid for money he borrowed from her. He probably "repaid" her by brutally murdering her!!! No sexual attack--neck broken, etc. He had confessed he used his own hands to stangle her, knocking her down, etc.
The way the law works in Peru is very different. Nobody is going to care about a nights worth of video but they will care that a young woman was killed by a foreigner who has confessed. Coerced into giving his confession? Can he prove it? Doubtful. He can try and retract all he wants now but the initial confession will stand. It is over for him and good riddance.
denial seems to be the biggest factor here.. like the Natalie crime; he has led everyone on a wild goose chase..true; where's the evidence ?? as for the smartest and wisest of psycho's, which is obvious here, this guy lost all his credibility by not keeping to one story..take him to the gallows like all the rest of the sicko's, rich/ powerful/ prominent or poor..an Evil one is a Evil one, no matter what the deal is..he has done Evil horrendous things, Crimes were committed, he broke the Law by many lies etc..TAKE HIM AWAY; Be Done With Him !!!...,...
The evidence will soon come to light when they match his dna on Stephany Flores. VDS's Dna isnt just going to disappear from Stephany's body. That will be the nail in the coffin.
This kid is going to try and use the media to influence a decision but Peruvian authorities arent going to just let this one slide like they did in that Banana republic known as Aruba. I think what they ought to do is a complete media blackout. No press gets to speak to this scumb-g. He uses the opportunity to try and deflect the blame on to someone else. A true sociopath.
It's obvious he was with the girl.
She went into the room voluntarily.
I don't think there was any blood from the strangulation.
In other words: I don't see where finding his DNA would prove anything, unless they took samples from under his fingernails after they took him into custody and found her DNA...
WooHoo!
When I saw this headline, I thought "Here we go again". I'm giving him another week before we hear Version #3 of What Happened. I suspect his sudden retraction and attempt to play the "scared" card (his best whopper since the human trafficking tale he told about Natalee) has to do with his mother speaking to the press for the first time in years. Even though she won't see or talk to him (telling in itself) it's sad to see she's still trying to downplay his actions. Very sad.
Clint....VDS elbowed this woman in her face and apparently there was blood in the room as a result. VDS;'s DNA would be on her face and quite possibly in her blood which essentially nails the coffin shut. His dna would also be around her neck.
The fact that they can place him and his DNA at the scene of the crime and the fact he confessed to the crime is pretty much the nail in the coffin.
ClintHorace, I thought her body was also covered with bruises and scratches. There could be blood from that. And his DNA may be under her fingernails, if she tried to resist him while he was strangling her. Her body was found wrapped in a bloody blanket, according to previous reports.
@BillyBoy #2.26
If that isn't proof enough that you simply want to make trouble...to be the problem and not part of any solution.
You haven't paid attention. The courts acquitted ACORN of all sting-related and trumped up charges , but not until ACORN was forced to close their doors. ACORN no longer exists, and hasn't since March 2. So, yes, I'd say their days are pretty empty right now, and thousands of people are in the unemployment line for you to criticize as well, all because of cheap, political, and in this instance, apparently illegal games. The upside is that James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles (the "pimp and the prostitute") could face up to five years in prison for their "investigative reporting" involving illegal taping,and subsequent doctoring of those tapes to build a case against ACORN.
If that makes you happy, I'm really concerned for the future of our country. Be careful what you wish for...you may get it and take the rest of us down with you!
this story is about Urine I mean Joran. he is guilty as guilty can be.
Matt you are a racist, only a racist uses the race card, there were plenty of haters for Bush yet it wasn't about race. Obama is just as much white as he is black. So another president people don't like, wow what a big surprise. just because someone does not like some one who is not 100% white does not make it an automatic race thing! only racists use the race card, plain and simple! don't feed me the we can't change the color of our skin BS, Jamaicans are the same color yet have no problem in business. they are usually very successful.
Community Organizations International (COI), ever hear of them. take your head out of your, well you get the picture. ACORN has a new name same people no one is in the unemployment line. there is ignorance and then there is truth. ACORN, even as COI a low end scum sucking organization.
lee, abanksone
All I'm saying is the DNA could be explained away, as they were seen together entering a hotel room......she followed without resistance.
They could have had "rough sex".
The point being: either one's DNA on the other, by itself, would prove nothing.
Whether bodily fluids or blood, it COULD be explained away by a decent defense lawyer.
Believe me, if I thought it would help I'd be all for it. I just dont see how that would "nail the coffin shut".
There should be a movement for ALL HOTELS AND RESORTS. WORLDWIDE, TO PLACE CAMERAS AT ENTERANCES AND EXITS!!!!! That may have helped nail this monster in the Natalie Holloway murder the way it helped in locating the killer of the Flores girl in Peru!!!!!!!
Clint....There was no evidence of rough sex at least in the stories I have read.
I see your point about defense attorneys but realistically you and I both know that they dont need the DNA to convict this turd. He already claimed he killed her and now claimed he didnt do it. The Peruvian authorities must use VDS's DNA as evidence to nail the coffin shut. Trust me when I tell you, DNA does not lie. It is unique to that individual. His defense team will have a hard time trying to prove it was the maintenance man or the housekeeping staff, especially when they have video footage of no one entering that room for two days.
There were signs of a struggle between VDS and Flores. There will be VDS's dna in her cuts and bruises and on the actual murder weapon which was a blood stained shirt which he used to suffocate her. You can't fool DNA it's impossible. Police will be able to make the determination on when she died, how she died, and the angle in which she was killed. They'll also be able to tell whether or not he was right handed or left handed. He also rolled her body up in a sheet...his dna will be present on that sheet. Thats pretty convincing right there.
I think Peruvian police arent going to take any chances with this one. There is such a public outcry over this murder and the fact that Flores's father is a very prominent figurehead down there. This kid is good as dead when they put him in general population. He will not be missed.
"If da glove dont fit, you must aquit".....
Man, that trial was a circus from beginning to end. O.J. had the best attorneys money could buy that was able to supress alot of the evidence. That D.A. couldnt slam-dunk O.J. even if wanted to. It was pretty bad. I think everyone was surprised when they handed down the verdicts. I know it left alot of people with mouths agape. hahahaha....
In this instance, I dont think VDS's family infleunce is going to help and he knows it so he acts like he's mentally unstable by retracting the story. Not sure if Peru even accepts this nonsense of an insanity plea.
I sure hope this kid is tortured and passed around the jail as someones new bride on a daily basis. good points.
What a tool.
He said he was... "tricked into confessing'"! Blaming the police for... LYING TO HIM???? Hmmm.... I would believe the police over this guy!
His lies have cought up to him..... He cannot remember his lies anymore. Who believes him?????
Exactly.
Please let me interrogate this little jerk off. I will find out all the people he killed and where they are.
I will start putting his hands one at a time in and out of liquid nitrogen. Freeze and thaw over and over until they are ready to fall off. Then onto his feet. I don't think this little punk would be able to take the pain.
I don't think they would need your help but Alqaida might be hiring.
You may want to re-write that opening statement.
In PC speak there is no such thing as interrogation any more, it's interview. Make a note of it!!
Agreed.
he doesn't deserve the "PC" gloss over, fred, sorry.
I didn't say he couldn't be waterboarded during the interview only you can't call it interrogation !!!
The fact you can come up with that idea for torture scares me almost as much as VDS' existence does.
Just Thinkin,
Sorry. You couldn't even imagine the stuff I've scene over the years. I'm actually a very nice guy with a family that means more to me than anything ;-)
Again?!?
Yeah. Soon we'll have another story which he'll retract in a month for some other lame reason. It's the Holloway case all over again. Right down to the aftermath.
I wonder how many more 'versions of the truth' we'll hear out of his skanky mouth before this is over.
Joran van der Sloot is the epitomy of the phrase - 'A Creature of habit'.
Don't be too surprised if he suddenly falls victim to an unexplainable 'accident' while residing at his present holiday hotel.
An accidental broken neck?? Works for me.
I was thinking he could of been sworn in under the last Disasterous Adminstration,, he'd fit right in with ol' Dick - lying- Cheney and that Disasterous bunch - of Fraudsters and Corrupteers as we all seen and know !!! Simply put - Mission Accomploished ~!!
To those that have made the statements so far...... WTF does ANY of this story have to do with Bush or Obama ? Some of You are sicker then this sick fool in Peru
CrazyClown - it isn't funny when people refer to the present administration in those terms, and it isn't funny when the same statement refers to previous administrations either.
Rise above that kind of smut.
Unfortunately, Grey Wolf, this is now the climate we have in America.... blame, blame, blame... the other guy. History begins the day you lose power and suspends the day you get it back. Unless, of course, your side actually does something right.
It's Bushes fault !! It's Cheney's fault !! It's Obama's fault !! Thanks CC you've given the van der Sloot defense team three wonderful tools to keep their "innocent" client out of prison!!
VanderSloot~BP~William Ayers~need I say more............
He'll say anything to keep his name in the news and the media obliges. The tabloid TV crime shows are once again devoting hours and hours to those story pushing almost all other criminal investigations aside. I guess viewers can't get enough of this one story (for reasons a bit difficult to understand - the FBI files show scores of murdered or missing people) but one wonders about any sense of proportion here.
Here we go again. Whats next? This guy, or his Mom, is going to ask for an exorcist, a Dutch one if you please!
Next he'll be contacting some news reporter to give an "exclusive interview" from his cell, wherein he'll make up some other B S story... which he'll retract a month later, claiming the news skewed the interview or some other nonsense.
His mom isn't on his side.
Of course he is going to do this. It worked the first time, why not now? Well, let's see, they have a body. They have videos. They have blood, and lots of it, on his clothes. He took her car, her money and her ID and he ran like crazy. A bit different wouldn't you say?
Agreed. He was a lot sloppier this time around. I wonder how much has to do with the fact that he doesn't have dad's help this time.
THX, I was thinking the same thing. If dear old dad was still around, would this body have ever been found? Notice how sloppy things got without dad in the picture. In one of his previous confessions, he stated that his father helped him dispose of Natalie. Does make you wonder, doesn't it?
Put this piece of crap to sleep already. Enough lies there's plenty of evidence. Wish he was in utah, but a firing squad in to quick.
He wouldn't be eligible. The firing squad is no longer Utah's method of execution (which is too bad), only those given a death sentence when it was a method are eligible (what a shame)!!
Like his mother says, "He's sick in the head."
you know this whole thing has gotten blown out of proportion. yeah he did have a dead body in his room. but she looked at his laptop! How many people have not killed someone for looking at their laptop? I had to kill four or five people just last week for trying to touch my laptop. one example "hey can i check my email?" *<sound of neck snapping>. things happen. give the kid a break, he must of had a hard life with all that power his dad had and all their money. how would that not get into your head.? <jk>
I had to laugh this past weekend and maybe the retraction of his "confession" had something to do with it. Van Der Sloot's mother made a remark, in an interview I believe, where she stated that Van Der Sloot was, get this, "sick in his head." Gee, whatever gave you THAT idea?
Guaranteed some lawyer is hinting in Van Der Sloot's ear that if he wants to get out of this anytime soon he needs to claim mental illness and retract his confession. Won't matter, the Peruvians have him dead to rights this time. Two people in a video enter a room, one leaves and the other is found murdered with no other suspects entering or leaving the room during that timeframe. Going to be a hard case to defend even if the confession is tossed.
I say give this POS ... 30 seconds with Stephany Flores father, it would be less painful then 10 seconds with Natalee Holloways mother ( more humane this way).
Here's an interesting scenario which from the pieces I've put together is probably close to the truth:
First his father, the judge, helped him cover up his first murder and dispose of the evidence. Second, his mother had knowledge of the first muder and cover up and is now trying to distance herself from her troubled son to avoid being found guilty of covering up the crime.
I lOVE your idea. Let the parent's have him first. Mr. Flores and Ms. Holloway deserve that much. And you are correct, Ms. Holloway is the more formidable of the two by simply being female.
You should check out a movie called Sympathy for Lady Vengeance. Deals with that theme. It's a Korean film, but there are subtitled versions out there.
And he was tricked into leaving a dead body in his room.
He's just making things worse for himself. I think the Peruvians let him have an isolated cell because he cooperated and told the truth. But if he's going to start calling them liars and say the confession was forced, they might change his room assignment. It sounds like van der stupid's bargaining to be sent to Aruba if he gives up Holloway's body isn't working so well, so maybe Mama's "he's sick in the head" story is a better ploy. I predict he'll never make it out of Peru alive, and that could be sooner than later.
Good points Elaine. I like your post.
I hope they do decide to switch him over to gen-pop. Really.
Elaine, I was thinking the same thing! BUT it's still a high-profile case. The whole world is watching, right?
He wouldn't survive prison in Peru. This may sound racist but he's.... too white. Prison pop of Peru is NOT that. The peeps in that lovely home can barely stand each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Hj2845Fi4&feature=related This < link, talks directly about Peru's prisons. They say getting raped and stabbed ... is inevitable. Take a look at it. They say Mexican's in there... look at foreigners with hostility. Bye Joran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XknJBUFvMkA That < is a link to news on Joran and a lawyer talking about a Peru prison.
Like this wasn't expected? This clown is a psychopathic media hound who thinks he is smarter than anyone after him. Yeah, perhaps that Hit Man sharing his cell block area should be offered a shortened sentence to take care of another long term and expensive problem.
He better get used to that, both kinds.
Don't see why he's complaining about sharing a cell with his own peers...
yeah, because he's not so tough anymore-he can't take being bullied so of course he's crying coersion into confessing-he's just crying because for once he's not in charge, he's not the tough guy anymore. he didn't understand? Didn't his lawyer translate for him? Of course he knew what he was signing...only now he's sorry he killed her because there's no one to help him get off and be set free again. Daddy's gone, no one to protect this twisted, sick excuse of a human being.
You've done a disservice to rats everywhere THX (Don't see why he's complaining about sharing a cell with his peers) !! At least they can provide a meal to an Eagle,Owl, Bobcat, Monitor Lizard or snake!!
I do not have lots of money, but I sure can pitch in for a bullet or two, the government might as well take him out, he is only playing with the media. Be he in Aruba or Peru, both girls deserve justice. Sick in the head? Sick like a fox. Do you think he will ever get his day in court for the two murders? Daddy can't get him out anymore. If he gives up Holloway's location, let him go to Aruba for that hearing... Peru seems rather lenient on their sentences. Maybe the transportation will do him in... pity if his seatbelt comes loose and he accidently exits the plane instead of the toilet.
I'll pitch in a couple-where do I send them?
I am generally not in favor of the death penalty, but this creep wins the prize. Unfortunately, Peru does not have the death penalty for his type of crime. However, I have faith in third world jails that ol' Van will wish he was dead many times over. Justice is served because if this creep had been convicted of killing Natalie, he probably would be looking at getting released about now because he would have been "cured" by the Arubian prison shrink.
How predictable. That he would recant his confession. This pos disgusts me. I can just imagine him on a chair in his cell while the big bad rats encircle him, murder gleaming in their eyes.
Joking aside. I hope he is brought to justice for any and all of his crimes. The fear he claims to have felt would be nothing compared to what any victim of a murderer feels. I hope he dies in jail so he cannot harm anyone else.
Another waste of sperm
Ben, more like out of billions of sperm his father spewed in his lifetime, why did the one with a DNA flaw grab the blue ribbon.
Why are you assuming only one had a flaw?
LMAO!!! Good one canemah...
flbikerchick, I think he is their only child. Therefore any other flawed swimmers were a moot point. Saturating the bed linen doesn't count.
the old wetspot routine...
I dont think he is an only child. I believe he has two siblings.
I am glad that the Peruvians are treating him just like any other prisoner- A cell with an assassin and rats. No high profiles country club place.
It says "He reportedly shares his cell block at the notorious Castro Castro prison with a Colombian assassin ..." A cell block is not the same as a cell.
He's probably being treated better than he deserves, thanks to all the media attention.
Kelldon and Bluto II -
I agree totally. Perhaps the reporter should have written that an assassin and corrupt general reportedly share ther cell with a cowardly "serial killer" who targets young women. Sounds like the officials at Castro Castro got it right.
Joran Van Der Sloot, now that is one POS. . . . something only a mother could love!
His mother said SHE doesn't want him.
Tricked into his confession just like those young women tricked him into killing them.