The article made it sound like it was relatively peaceful, compared to other prisons. He deserves to be in general population, either way.

He can't go into gen pop until after he is sentenced. The only other people he will kill are other inmates until someone does him.

Yes, he certainly picked the wrong country to do another murder.

I doubt they will kill him in gen pop. A young strapping killer of young girls will definitely end up bent over and on his knees (this time he will be doing the begging to get out of the situations he created) time and time again!

Sam:

He won't live 30 minutes in that prison.

I thought that this person confessed to killing the young girl. His mother has caused me some confusion in my diagnosis of him when she states that he was kind to animals.

My working hypothesis factored in that he was a child who pulled the wings off of butterflies.

Hawaii-I hope you're right. It would be fitting if whomever killed him buried him without a trace. But not before finding out where Natile is buried.

sam:

Van der Sloot is using the theme: "he will tell the authorities where Natalie is buried". It is his last "playing card"; but the true fact is, he is the biggest Manipulator with the Police and all who have investigated this case.

Ok, they take him to Aruba. Suddenly he's out of Peru where it is/was very dangerous.. He is a mastermind at playing games. My guess is that he will not tell the Investigators where Natalie is buried. Never. (Remember the Extortion money from the Holloway family. That's how he got to Peru, and traveled). He is running everyone around, because he is stalling the inevitable; his death.

If he does admit it, does he receive a reduced sentence?. No, not enough for the amount of years they are going to put this beast in the slammer. It could be 10 years, but by then he could be 200 years old.

He is trying his best to continue this charade. The more time spent out of prison, the more life he is given.

Garcia, Garcia Prison is one of the worst in the world. 35 of the worst imaginable prisoners in one small room (cell) a hole in the floor for bathroom facilities; the showers go on every 12 hours, then the prisoners jump into the showers, and there's no water. There is no schedule for the showers to come on, either.

He will be killed.

Van der Sloot's word has never been trusted. So why would anyone trust his word now?

I think he has lead a pampered life, and if he was threatened and beaten in Peru, I think he would spill the beans. As always this is my opinion. I agree with you that he is a master manipulator, however, when push comes to shove self preservation is his motive for everything he does. So with enough pressure from the right people, who knows. He has never been in this position before, where he doesn't have his father to help him, so he is on his own. They can use throwing him into the general population as a tool to get him to talk. I doubt seriously that the authorities will bend to allowing him to go to Aruba in exchange for Natalie's whereabouts. They gain nothing. He really doesn't have much wiggle room. JMHO.

Yea, after seeing the documentary about "Peruvian" prisons... I was thinking you could not have picked a worse place to be caught... Karma... its a bitch..

We need a means in society to institutionalize psychopaths and sociopaths. The family and freinds know that they need help but are helpless by law to have them admitted. I don't know if a sociopath is capable of recognizing their condition. One in 25 people are sociopaths. A good knowledge of psychology can spare a lot of people from being victims.

My dad was a sociopath that was violent towards his family and friends. We had no means to force him to get help.

These prisons are supposedly the worst places in the world and yet they're follwoing suit to the US, allowing distance learning so that they're inmates can study the law and find loopholes to get themselves either a lighter sentance on appeal or out of prison entirely? I never understood this concept...we determine they are not fit to live in society for the crimes they've committed so we throw their asses in jail, and yet we give them access to education that could let them back into society by legal means? Yeah.

No Jan, a sociopath doesn't know that they are sick and do not care if they hurt anyone. But until they kill someone or do a crime they are free to do what ever. It is sad. This man or boy doesn't CARE who he hurts and knows how to play the game. Look at how many times he has confessed to the crime he has done in Peru. He has lied over and over doesn't care if it will get him what he wants. He needs to stay where he is. As to someone saying he should be allowed to mix with others. Number one he doesn't want to as he is scared of what they will do to him. But they keep them seperate till go to court in that country and for him a good thing. After the judge talks to him he can order a psych. evaluation which is needed. and go from there. I really think he does have mental problems and his father has got him out of trouble all his life. So he thinks he will get out of this one, also. but the sentence of 10 to 30 years is sure short for beating a person to death.That is murder and should get life or electric chair if they have one. He is a manipulator first class and has done it all his life.As for his Mother not seeing him in jail that is a lot of garbage she doesn't want to.Talking about the other people in the jail, they are way away from him so she would be in no danger. She just doesn't want to see him at this time. I think she has given up on him and if she can get him in hospital for his problems she would like that. but no he deserves what he gets and a hospital won't help him. They should have had him seen when a child, he probably lied to them then on things.The signs and symptoms would have shown up then. Sometimes family's don't want to face the fact until it is too late. He will never tell the truth about the Holloway girl, it is his thing to hold over people. As for abuse to sign the papers that he killed this girl , he is doing the same thing as did before. yes I did not I didn't but he was seen going into the room with her and out of the room alone and then her body found after he left with her money and credit cards. If autopsy done some of his DNA should be on her body.sentence him put him out with the others and they will take care of him, but if he gets off someone on the outside will get ride of him in less the family gets him out of the country fast.

she wants to protect him, saying he is sick in the head to try and set precedence for insanity plea.

that "may" have worked in the America but I doubt that the Peru courts will allow that as a defense for murder. Since he has self-confessed to it. Let's face it Mamma Van der Sloot is in denial.

I'm not sure if Peru has an "insanity plea" or not - maybe someone knows about the Peru legal system could inform us?

That said, insanity pleas, even in the US, are not often accepted. The person has to not just be mentally ill - but be unable to differentiate right from wrong at the time of the crime. At least, that's my understanding (again, I could be wrong). A parent saying "he's not right in the head" simply isn't enough to set up an insanity plea.

Sadly, his family knew he was "sick in the head" long before Natalie Holloway disappeared, and there is no telling how many other young women he murdered before the Peruvian and Holloway, and, had he not been caught up in two similarly sensational murder investigations, his family would still be trying to 'protect' him. How many other murders have they covered up for him?

Yes, it is easy to understand a mother's desire to 'protect' her offspring. Sadly, this particular mother (and too many others across the globe) fail to see that, sometimes, the real protection they need is from themselves. And, had Van der Sloot's mother been strong enough before, at least one more young girl would not be dead now.

She is still in denial and enabling him. Enable a psychopath and you can get a serial rapist/killer.

Mommy is out of touch and delusional. In early childhood, there are many signs of deviant behaviors,and mental health disorders. Moreover early intervention, with the proper use of physicians, medications, and therapy, people can turn away from being like her son. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. For all the money she has available , she wasted it all by not helping her son when he was younger. Her denial has made him a Monster. Notice she is not going to see him. What does that tell you? She could have helped her son and saved the lives of two young women who had their lives ahead of them and the potential to do good. BAD MOMMY should go to jail too as she is just as guilty as he.

Seriously, every mother of some animal in prison whines "He was always so sweet." Uh-huh. Wile the rest of us wish retroactive birth control was possible for her lil' darling.

The mother's statement left me with the impression that she has no doubt that he killed those women. And the father had always given the impression that he knew what happened to the first girl.

The parents should go to prison for the death of the 2nd girl right along with their son. They knew who he was. The 2nd one is dead because they covered up his involvement with the first girl.

I would definitely try to make a conspiracy involvement with the surviving parent.

He's not the monster she is. If she thinks he's mentally ill and let him loose on society,

she is the Monster and the monster maker

I had an adopted son who is a psychopath or suffers from antisocial personality disorder. He is not mentally ill, he has a character disorder. When he was in his teens I allowed him to suffer every consequence of his antisocial behavior--fire starting in a neighbor's mailbox, stealing from stores, etc. I would like to think I might have saved him from becoming a serial killer. Oh, he was also kind to our pets. No guarantee there.

A retired therapist

every cold blooded murder has some level of insanity .. i dont think that you can be " normal " and be able to kill women just like that !! but it doesnt matter , he still is a dangerous killer ..

There are a lot of people in denial on this one, including the parents of Natalee Holloway.

She claims that her son was in recent years developed severe mental problems. " His departure to Peru was a flight to escape being committed to a clinic." quote article.

the problem with mental health help is that the CRAZY person CAN say, "NO, i'm out of here" ....and the rest of the family, population, etc has to put up with the CRAZY person making too many decisions and calling too many shots! what is CRAZY about THAT picture?

this mother was apparently TRYING to get him to the clinic! the clinic should have some MUSCLE and come and GET people who are having brain troubles, just like if a family member called because someone was having a broken leg, or a heart attack. the mental health workers HIDE behind: "THE PATIENT didn't "want" to do this or that...." la-de-dah....that gives the mental health doctors and workers an easy out for NOT being EFFECTIVE in their supposed work.

i was trying to get mental health help for a man who was obviously in serious trouble....the brainless "Mrs. Doctor" at the hospital....la-de-duh....blathered on about the wife of this man had to get him in to the hospital etc....she had 7 kids to take care of and try get him up out of the basement to go see WORTHLESS Mrs. DOCTOR?....probably a total waste of effort!

it is SO STUPID that a person can't just CALL THE AMBULANCE and get some HELP right off GETTING mental patients IN TO THE HOSPITAL. all this "court stuff" and paying umpteen lawyers to piddle around, when every cleaning lady in the county KNOWS, "whatshisname" is loonie and NEEDS HELP.....is a ridiculous clog in the drain in mental health.

Joran's father was a JUDGE and he didn't have the brains to GET the kid to the nuthouse!!!! stupid as seeing a burning building and not calling the fire department. "oh, we need to PIDDLE in the courts first...." by that time the house will have burned DOWN!

some mental illnesses DO come on sudden. and parents and family members can't/won't see what is happening to their PRIZE CHILD! it is TOO SAD for them to watch the house burning down....it is not that they do not care, it is that they DO CARE and can't take the pain of seeing all the wreckage in this child they had such great expectations and hope for CRUMBLING before their very eyes.

EVERYONE needs their heads examined. make it common. being forced to be subservient to a mental patient for making decisions, is as stupid as putting the fat lady in charge of deciding if you are going to be ordering FRIED CHICKEN or salad for the dinner. you know, you are going to have 40 TONS of friend chicken, BEFORE you finally get to that salad!

to allow mentally ill people to be making decisions that are so adverse and perverse to themselves and others, is as stupid as riding in the car with a blind person driving!

maybe in the old days, some nasty person "locked up uncle so-and-so" to get his fortune.....but that HAS to be very rare compared to the MANY mental patients who get NO CARE because THEY "don't want help". i don't want to pay tax either....but too bad, so sad....PAY IT~!

GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED. you might be MUCH SMARTER than you THOUGHT you were! or dumber....you might be BETTER off than you thought you were doing. GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED....you might be doing work that is REALLY NOT your field....and you can FIND OUT what you are a natural at. GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED!

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!

"There are a lot of people in denial on this one, including the parents of Natalee Holloway."

Threepence, you are a major JERK! Natalee Holloway's parents have done everything within their power to find justice for their daughter. They know that van derSloot murdered their daughter. Exactly how is that being in denial? You should join him in prison in Peru for that stupid, moronic statement. You are as much of a sicko as he.

fire letterman - your post is one of the reasons that mental health professional can't just kidnap a person on the basis of a layperson claiming that he/she needs help. Your post shows that you are irrational in your thinking and obviously angry. If it were possible for mental health professionals to insitutionalize people based on the observations of laypeople, then they would be coming to get you after I turn you in because I think that you need help. Laws are in place to protect people from being detained based on the subjective opinion of non-professionals. That is why certain procedures have to be followed before institutionalizing someone.

Natalee Holloway's parents have done everything within their power to find justice for their daughter. They know that van derSloot murdered their daughter. Exactly how is that being in denial?

Yes - But sadly, I think what threepence is referring to is the denial of relatively well-off parents who think that their teenagers need to rumble off to Aruba for a high school trip. As others have said, "What about a trip to DC or a run around Manhattan?"

Come on people. What about something useful, something worthwhile while our country slowly falls apart?

The sad fact is that Nataly Holloway's parents felt obligated to spoil her with the kind of rubbish that shows up on "Real Housewives of New Jersey". All this "Real Houswives of ..." and "Keeping up with the Kardashians" and "Rock of Love" blah, blah, blah. And I can just about hear Nataly whining to her parents if they expressed reservations about it. "Oh, moooom. Everybody else is going! I gotta! I'll die of embarassment!" blah, blah.

A sad reality is that Nataly Holloway, her parents and others like her buy all this reality TV drivel. I'm not saying that parents should keep their kids from taking risks. I was 100% behind the 16 year old's attempt to sail around the world. But sending your kid to Aruba to get drunk and party is not a character building experience!

And that's the underlying problem here! Mom and Dad Holloway weren't training their daughter to be capable for adulthood. They knuckled under to Nataly's "need" to be "cool" and "fit in with all the other kids". In that sense they threw their daughter out into the street rather than be her parents. I would rather see my daughter build her own airplane and fly it, try to sail around the world, mountain climb, or go to Borneo to help with orangutans than pack her off to party like an idiot in Aruba (or any other "Reality Show" type of location.)

Don't tell me mom and dad don't know what goes on there. Don't tell me they don't know that the whole point of going is exactly the reason stupid freshmen girls (frostitutes) absolutely must go to fraternity parties. Don't tell me Mr. Holloway hasn't seen videos of spring break and all the rest of it. And don't tell me Nataly paid for it all herself.

No, none of that excuses a pig like Joran from killing (accidentally or otherwise) Nataly Holloway. But dear god people! WTF was Nataly doing there in the first place?!

John Toradze - I definitely agree with your statements about parents nowadays catering to and spoiling their kids rotten. My neice and nephew never had a part-time job while in high school. Their parents provided them each with a car when they reached driving age. They are now both in their mid-twenties and have never had the satisfaction of working to obtain anything that is important to them. I have friends who barely manage to pay the bills but who still give their twenty-something kids several thousand dollars per year when they can't make ends meet because they are out buying flat panel TVs, etc...things that they can easily live without.

My high school senior trip was by train to NYC. I didn't go because I couldn't afford to go (and didn't want to go because it was all for the "in" crowd). However, I don't see the connection between pampering kids and Natalie's parents being in denial. In denial of what?

Thank you scales-didn't the school organize this trip before and have no issues? They had no reason to believe that any harm would befall their daughter. How are they in denial? That is probably the dumbest statement I'm going to hear all week.
John-do you know her parents personally? I'm sure you'd espress it if you did.

I believe that a lot of parents and their children are capable of making good choices when it comes to the kids taking trips away from home. My 17 year old stepson and my 15 year old daughter both went to survival camp in Colorado and were safe at all times. There was a counselor for every 4 campers. Even when they spent the nights alone in the wilderness the counselors knew where they were and observed them during the nights.

It all depends upon how the child was reared.

maybe she and your mother can start a support group together!

John Toradze..... now this is Natallie's fault that she was killed? This all her fault because her parents let their daughter go on a trip that she earned after doing very well in high school and being a good daughter and never having trouble?Your blaming a dead girl instead of the killer? The man's father used his power to get his son the killer free. None of this is the victim's fault! It is people like you who will always blame the victims. I suppose you think if A woman is raped and murdered it must be her fault because she looked at the guy wrong or he thought she was giving him the go ahead hu? or how about Ted Bundy who raped and brutally murdered his female victims his last victim being a 12 yr old girl jump roping, it is all their faults right? Natallie was not a spoiled girl. This could of happened in d.c. or even where she lived. It is called he planned this. he set it up and he premeditated her murder. this man killed two women perhaps more but because daddy warbucks had connections got out of it.Who knows how many innocent girls like these two victims fell prey to his evil acts and are missing and he knows dead and burried some where. you make me ill and anyone else who dares to blame the girl. Just because her parents had money does not make her a spoiled brat! you should be ashamed. I bet if this had been your sister or daughter your thinking would be differently!

how much responsibility in all the murder crazy stuff should the MEDIA have? when you think of the hidious movies and videos that some of these people grew up on, how much responsibility for this EVIL should the old money bags who make money off that violent filth be have?

Larry,

There is a difference between being mentally ill (sick in the head) and having a character disorder. Most serial killers know the difference between right and wrong. They just don't care. Mentally ill folks are out of touch with reality and many don't know the difference between right and wrong. Let's not let these monsters off the hook. The know exactly what they're doing and care less.

Ted Bundy killed scores of young women. We don't know that this guy killed as many as Bundy did.

Does Peru have an insanity defense? If not, then he isn't going to get off by claiming insanity.

we're probably the only countrty that has that stupid defense...H*ll yes he's crazy!

Even in the US - the insanity plea is not as easy to use as people would like to think it is. They have to be able to show the individual didn't know right from wrong at the time of the crime - not just that they have a serious mental illness. At least, that's my understanding - correct me if I'm wrong.

To be excused from a criminal act in the US, including murder, on the basis of LEGAL INSANITY - not just insanity - you need expert opinion to provide professional proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you either did not know the nature of your act or that you had an uncontrollable impulse to perform it. It is a highly technical defense that is usually rejected by the jury because it is very difficult to prove, is usually a last defense and is heavily fact-based. Juries usually look at the entirety of the crime's circumstances and then weigh that against the evidence of possible delusion or irresistible impulse. This will NEVER fly in Peru or anywhere, even if they have a defense of legal insanity as he has already stated in his confession his reason for killing her and those facts, even if they provoked a blind rage (legally different from an uncontrollable impulse), do not justify a reaction that could constitute the basis for a successful plea of legal insanity. He is as good as gone.

BINGO! Betsy-504784, you clocked it! "Ted Bundy was nice when he wasn't killing someone."

THAT is how many EVIL people get by with all sorts of evil. they are "nice" when they don't happen to be doing their EVIL. and SOME of them are so polite when they are jabbing the "knife" right in (whether it is a conniving business deal, telling insidious lies that will ruin someone, or some other sort of obvious crime).

Yes - that is it.

I know a man like this. He managed to get off from a youthful felony arrest when he got caught attacking a woman. He is very "nice", his whole life is a big lie. He was Mr. Perfect husband until his wife found out he was soliciting S&M sex on the internet. He is popular with his colleagues (attorneys) who all think he is fantastic.

And the man is cold as ice, molested his own children, likes S&M, and I think he has been killing pretty women for years. I can't prove it, but everything about him fits that profile.

Sociopathic killers are usually "nice" people. They do it with deliberation, staging acts to impress people they want to.

the mother tried to get him to the mental health clinic but he didn't want to go. SAD that mental health doesn't listen to family members and neighbors who KNOW someone needs help. mental health workers have a lot of blood on their hands for NOT doing something about all sorts of people, when they KNOW a person NEEDS help....but the mental health workers sit on their hands. it is CRAZY.

Exactly what do you expect the mental health people to do? They can't just go out and kidnap someone who needs help. There are procedures that have to be follow.

@ fire letterman - give it a rest will ya! The laws currently written prohibit a layman to diagnose anyone that may cause harm to himself or others. It would be like, if having read all you posted comments, to call the mental health authorities and have you committed...

The laws currently written prohibit a layman to diagnose anyone that may cause harm to himself or others

I am glad that laws prevent committing people solely off the word of their family and/or neighbors. That said, the laws do not always stop people that may cause harm to himself or others. I have a family member (by marriage) that is seriously mentally ill. She continually threatens to kill my SIL and nieces because she believes my SIL killed her children (her kids were taken away by the state and have been adopted by loving families - which is a good thing). This threats have been recorded - so there is proof that she is threatening them. She has shown up at their house with scissors saying she was going to cut one of my niece's heart out. She has spiked her dad's coffee with anti-psychotics because she said he needed to relax (that one did get her a 5 day stay involuntary inpatient stay at the hospital). She's done a lot of other things that have been dangerous to herself and to others - like setting a hotel bathroom on fire because she was trying to burn the demon's out of her ex-boyfriends clothes in the bathtub.

She will go to the psychiatrist, get her meds - and take them normal for a few days. Then she begins to think that they are trying to poison her with her meds - and refuses to take them anymore. When that happens - she begins hallucinating (both visual and auditory), threatening people, doing bizarre things that can really hurt people, etc. The court system still refuses to involuntarily commit her for more than 5 days. 5 days basically gets her meds in her system high enough that she starts to function - but as soon as she's not inpatient, she stops taking them.

There needs to be a balance in these laws so that both the individual that is (or might be) mentally ill is protected but so are others.

Van der Sloot's father was a judge in Aruba. He got him off instead of both parents helping authorities bring him to justice. They have blood on their hands!

I don't know about the law's in other countries, but do know that if a person isn't mentally right in this country you can get your family doctor to request order from the judge for a mental evaluation and the Police will pick them up and take to mental hospital and they have a 72 hour stay where they are examined by psych. and if have a diagnosis they will keep them and treat them . Then send home on medication. If after the 72 hours hold if testing doesn't show they need help they are sent home.I have seen this done. The person was held for the 72 hours and then kept till stabilized on medications and given a psych. to see when gets home. But you do have to give signs and symptoms to the family doctor, as these are needed by the judge to get the order for the police to pick them up.Ever since they closed a lot of the mental institutions you have a lot of people on the streets, no place to go .

Some of the older ones were put in nursing homes they were the lucky ones. This was years ago that it happened. Most of our mental institutions were over crowded and under staffed and dirty so they closed them. Now they do have some wards at some hospital for short stays and if you have money there are good ones. If you don't have money and can't care for yourself you are on the street.Wrong but that is the way it is. This young man had parents that were enablers never had to face anything , they made him what he is today. Hard fact to face if a parent. Probably is why his father died.His Mother doesn't want to see him and reasons given were garbage, she also said she didn't want to embrace him right now, but she is there to enable him again by using mental problems. Hope Peru doesn't have that law to go by. But a psych. evaluation would help as it would show he knows right from wrong even if lies on test. Sure would love to see him given sodium penathol and asked the questions about both deaths. I also wonder why they don't or didn't take the computer even if he tried to hide the information on it, a good hacker could find it on the hard drive somewhere.

I feel no compassion for his mother. She could be considered a child abuser for her dereliction of duty to provide a happy and healthy environment with all the supports to keep him from being a killer. I wonder what she will say to the mothers who have lost their daughters forever. I think this is a ploy between her and his lawyer to say that he was insane and should not be charged to the fullest extent of the law.

I hope that you're wrong about the ploy but who knows - she is his mother. Not knowing anything about her, I will continue to have compassion for this woman. Who brings a child into the world hoping that this child will grow up to be an International murderer and pimp??? I can't imagine what she is going through. Just as I cannot imagine what horrors the Holloway and the Flores families are going through. I have no idea what the laws are in Peru but in this country, you must be competent in knowing the difference between right and wrong. I have no doubt that he knows the difference.

Right now, I'm just glad that he's off of the streets and, hopefully he will stay off for the rest of his life. Unfortunately, they have no death penalty in Peru.

Your compassion for his mother might be misplaced. Just being a biological mother doesn't automatically make a person loving, caring, protective, etc. Maybe she never wanted him and resented him his entire life. She certainly has never shown any concern or compassion for the mothers of the two dead girls.

We can only hope that the insanity plea does not reduce the amount of time spent since the death penalty is not in play in the Peru justice systems. My heart hurts for the loss of Natalie Holloway & Stephany Flores and to their families. May God bless them with peace.

greg -841781, your writing shows that your mother maybe didn't do such a good job raising you either.

"Anita" was TRYING to get him to the mental health clinic BEFORE this happened. mental health clinics are NOT KNOWN for being very helpful for patients who are really a challenge. it is a very sad state of affairs. they only take the EASY ones who come in on their own volition. the really TOUGH characters....the mental health people weasle there way OUT of dealing with. it is a very sad state of affairs. what is CRAZY with THAT picture?

Greg, you may want to seek some outside help with that rage of yours, I highly doubt Anita is reading any posts in here, and Greg, please don't kick the dog!

fire letterman - why do you have such issues with mental health professionals? His own mother states that he left Aruba to avoid being institutionalized. Exactly what are the mentla health people supposed to do, hunt him down all over the world. Who is going to pay for that? You?

TOUGH characters....the mental health people weasle there way OUT of dealing with. it is a very sad state of affairs. what is CRAZY with THAT picture?

There is a thing called ethics. Most mental health professionals specialize in a certain area. If they feel they can't benefit you, they send you on to someone that specializes in the direct mental problem. It's up to you to participate in your own therapy.

knob, do your homework. he apparently got the money from extortion, and a sting operation from the FBI or something TRYING to solve the Holloway case. you can't blame "ol' mommy" for that.

Mr. Witold Sloniewicz, please, learn some English grammar and spelling before you post anything anywhere in writing.

What the hey.........someone has been into the tequila tonight or what?

Ann-1788151, "kwit chur bean sucha knit-picquer."

Witold Sloniewicz probably speaks and writes in more languages than you ever will.

fire letterman - He can still click on spell-check before posting in any language. Of course you defend him. Take a look at the use of punctuation, spelling and capitalization in your previous posts in this vine.

Ann-

If correct spelling and grammar were requirements for posting, then 99% of the posts on Newsvine would be deleted after the first three words. We all know what he/she meant anyway.

"We all know what he/she meant anyway."

lpf1359 - That's just it. We don't always know what he/she meant if no punctuation or capitalization is used. When someone posts a string of words with no punctuation or capitalization, I don't waste my time trying to interpret what he/she is attempting to express. Anyone can hit a wrong key occasionally, but when there are multiple misspelled words, I disregard the post because that implies to me that the person is ignorant and unable to form a valid opinion on any topic.

Why, exactly, are people no longer capable of using correct spelling and grammar? Are they too ignorant, stupid or just plain lazy? Do they have no pride? Anyone who wants to be taken seriously should use correct spelling and grammar.

No one bothers using Spell Check either and it's just a keystroke away if needed.

Right on, ThunderProof. It is an insult to other readers when posters can't hit the spell check.

It's likely that Witold Sloniewicz speaks, writes, and reads more than one language. And spellcheck doesn't fix everything. Syntax, punctuation, grammar, etc., rules are different for every language. You can't depend solely on "hitting the spellcheck" to get everything right. You people are complaining just to complain. What's an insult is that one has to read through the unforgiving, rude, self-righteous commentary of people who bash others for committing harmless errors. Aside from what he said about VDS, it's not like Witold was putting anyone else down.

Witold, I don't know you but I'm very sorry about the "nitpicking" on this board :)

BINGO! arina-1903778

and it is an historical place of convergence of ships from many parts of the world....translation....collection of dirty old men from all over the world meet there.