Those scientists better be careful or they will join the ranks of us TEA partiers in being called raciest....anyone who speaks out against Obama or his policies are pegged!

The administration has mounted a huge response to the spill, deploying 1,105 vessels to try to skim oil, burn it and block it from shorelines.

What administration?

EVERYONE knows most of those "vessels" belong to no administration at all, other than the "concerned folks administration".

From day one the President and his administration repeatedly stressed that BP is in charge of fixing this leak and the clean up. Since the start they were content to accept BP's low ball numbers and to leave the problem to the the oil company.

From the first explosion the administration seemed more concerned over getting stuck with the bill or getting blamed for the spill or their response to it. It seems little surprise the deception and avoidance continues.

If this would have happened on Bush's watch... the National Media would have CRUCIFIED him as they did over New Orleans, which now in the aftermath of Haiti we have learned was not a bad reaction at all... This is just one more example of the HYPOCRISY that is Obama and his "Yes we can Socialize your Medicine/Nation" Administration.

I'm no fan of the Obama administration, and I'm not gonna cry over him getting a flame lit under his ass and getting some bad publicity, but these are probably the same dopes that insist that we drill so far from shore that we get into waters that are so deep that we can't get down there and fix the problem.

Wow, President Obama did not say "Bush," he said "previous administration." Big difference. The POTUS is not interested in laying blame, he's hoping there are enough intelligent people in the U.S. that can understand what happened under the "previous administration" so it can be corrected and hopefully, take steps to avoid it happening again.

BTW, this whole BP episode started in 2001. Read up on the sex, drugs & R 'n R going on in the MMS and allowed to continue under the previous admin. These scientists are looking for photo ops and will say anything to get their 10 min. of fame. How the POTUS can be blamed for this fiasco is a stretch.

The name "Bush" should not even come up in the context of this issue.

Whatever may or may not have happened from 2001 through 2008 - Obama has been in office for 15 months, and had been in office for 14 months when the rig blew. One could easily question why it took a rig blow and a massive oil spill for this administration, who was going to "change" the way government worked, to notice that the department in charge of this was "too cozy" with big oil - especially given that energy legislation is one of its top priorities.

Having said that, I agree it's ludicrous to blame Obama.

But it was ludicrous to blame Bush for Katrina, too.

That certainly didn't stop anyone.

The question becomes, did people blame Clinton for Katrina? Because blaming Bush for this, is like blaming Clinton for Katrina.

"May 20: Interior Secretary Ken Salazar tells TODAY’s Meredith Vieira that the responsible parties need to learn for their mistakes so such incidents never happens again."

It is a given that in order to LEARN FROM MISTAKES you must first ACCURATELY AND FULLY IDENTIFY THOSE MISTAKES AND THEIR RAMIFICATIONS. Thirty days later and BP/government have not forced an accurate measurement of the spill size?...have not informed the public ... "we the people" of test results...continue to allow BP to call the shots while they completely mishandle this disaster and employ deception across the board... as the hands of our scientists are tied? By all appearances, they have been not only "hiding the body" but also "covering up the evidence". An obstruction of justice by anyone's definition and definately not a quest for TRUTH...

Hey Msn, where did my post go? It was here, now it,s gone, hmmmmmmm.? You know the one about the Obama admins previous knowledge of the magnitude of the destruction involved and the political maneuvering to distance himself and the GOV instead of helping. Where did it go?

I totally agree with you, I think. More and more people are beginning to see that Comrade Obama is only show with no substance. I suppose that is why the Hollywood crowd likes him so much. He is just like them. He talks a good game but there but talk is cheap just like them.

As was said earlier, there's plenty of blame to go around for everybody. When the Samolis' took that American ship hostage, BO didn't publicly say anything until they were rescued and it was over. In hindsight, the Navy said "Yeah, he OKed it". It's called "covering your butt". You take the glory for success, but no blame for failure. It was almost 2 weeks before BO got his nose into this thing. That's really plugging a leak. I would like to know EXACTLY what our government did other than bad mouth BP. We have the entire US Navy at our disposal and oil is still spewing into the Gulf??? Instead if letting Halliburton, Transocean, and BP point fingers at each other, we need to just get a piece of all three. Seems to me, they all had a little something in it?

Wasn't it Oblabla who said he was going to create ANOTHER COMMITTEE to look into this oil leak? He's all for making the government bigger and bigger, without accomplishing much of anything. And who is NOAA? Isn't it ALREADY their responsibility to respond to problems (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) in the OCEAN? People that voted this clown in should be squirming in their seats by now! Yeah, he's creating jobs - but only for the government - and we still have to pay the bill! And our grand kids - and their grand kids!

these so called scientists are obviously a bunch of racists!

didn't have time to read the whole thing, did the article try to tie the scientists to some conservative group? I'm sure it tried to do damage control for obama in some way.

OBAMA,Obama,obama,all these idiots r yelling Obama,like he can get out there and clean up that oil,bush would have responded fastesr or better because he is and was the oil king in TX,and during his term.What Obama said he could and would do he did,but theObama Haters,ought to look at it like this .When you get hurt on the job,and the Co. is negligent,and you r hurt,cant work and get fire because of the co.lies.Then workers comp believe the co and all thier bull@!$%# WHAT DO U DO THEN.HOW DO YOU HANDLE THE SITUATION?WHO DO YOU BLAME?Worker's comp is suppose to b for the worker,but they r not do i suppose to blame Obama,NO.He is a man,but everyone have a part in this mess and start with what cause it and could it have been prevented.this wasn't the first oil spill and it sure wont b the last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The site needs to be cemented shut for now!!!

STOP trying to suck small amounts of oil profit from a BIG spill !!!

Just put a big cement cap on it. (plate and cement seal.)

It can always be redrilled, but for now SEAL it SHUT and access the REAL damage, clean it up!

Obama did not cause this oil spill, he's trying to get it cleaned up. This mess was cause by oil people not having the guidance that should have been imposed years ago, but then we know the "BUSH'S were oil folks. Our wars were the product of a Cheney lead Bush administration but notice how we don't talk about that, but at every opinion we try to crucifix Obama to the cross, whether he's guilty or not. I love the statements of becareful about talking about Obama, or people will think you are a racist. Please, people started the bad mouthing from Jan 20,2009 and it has been non stop ever since. Yes, it's racist and the man is part black, and he'll never get a chance to prove whether or not he could have been a great president, but let all stand up and admit we have a negative opinion about him because of his color. No one ever thought this nation would be lead by anyone except a white man, and now that it has, it's difficult, and everybody praises the administration that ruined the country in the first place, and looks for every thing in this administration and down it good or bad . The word Hypocritics definitely applies here and it's not a flame under Obama's ass that concern me but under mines if I'm a hypocritic. The situation in Haiti was unfortunate and we all helped but New Orleans was America, folks, and Bush should have acted sooner, I know because that is my home. The comment comparing the two incidents was crude, we Louisanains fight for America just like any other state and we did deserve to be treated better.

Mary

You are a hypocrite.

jed

You have to click on the "+" icon on the first collapsed post.

I don't know why they collapse everyone else's posts with it but......

F**K this political and academic masturbation!

This catastrophe is going on for over a month and NO ONE knows anymore than what they were told at the beginning. This issue should have been taken over after the first week by a PRE-PLANNED administrative body. All data and progress should be closely monitored in this case by the atendant agencies and decisions made accordingly.

The problem is our government has been and continues to be incompetent in all of its responsibilities. This accident was going to happen at some point. There are nearly 4,000 oil and gas platforms in the Gulf. No degree of human concern and intelligence can prevent all possible scenarios. To think it can be prevented is just as criminal as not being prepared for a event of this catastrophic magnitude.

I am in favor of offshore drilling but IF our government has agencies that are supposed to be monitoring and reacting to these types of accidents then they are responsible for the last 3 weeks of incompetence. If I and every other citizen pays for these agencies to be available to deal with these types of catastrophes our government is failing,,,,,AGAIN!

This situation has deteriorated to epic size and scope. This is when the "ready, shoot, aim" mentality must be incorporated. Whatever means necessary must be used to STOP the leak and then the impact can be evaluated. This hand wringing and finger pointing is ridiculous as millions of gallons of oil continue to pour out of a hole in the ocean. Every evaluation changes the second it is determined because more and more contamination continues.

This weekend should be the last chance to contain this mess. If the proposed attempts do NOT stop the leak more drastic and significant solutions must be undertaken. Our government is the only entity capable of this solution.

if Katrina's response was Bush's fault, this disaster sits firmly on Obama's narrow shoulders.

Only thing this proves is that government regulation is necessary. this is what happens when big companies get their way people. deception is the name of their game, beware!

Big companies need to be regulated!!!

Funny how the right wants government intervention if they can bad mouth the president for not "doing enough" and then bad mouth him if he intervenes. Hypocrisy runs rampant.

Perhaps he's letting BP fix it because it's their fault and not ours. There is nothing the government can do anyway. Only the oil industry has the technology and the experience to fight this kind of disaster, but where the government gets faulted is in not enforcing the rules before this happeneed. Obama should have gotten the responsible agencies to do their respective jobs after their 8 year vacation. They never should have been allowed to drill before having a viable disaster plan in place.

Intersting how the scientists are all wrong when they call global warming, but they're right when they criticize the president. Funny how that works, isn't it.

Problem is, the big company they call the "US government" isn't regulated by anyone.

THAT'S where regulation is direly needed.

Obama should have gotten the responsible agencies to do their respective jobs after their 8 year vacation. They never should have been allowed to drill before having a viable disaster plan in place.

EXACTLY!!!

I thought that was the whole point of him giving off-shore drilling "his blessings" just weeks before the fire.

What's funny is the Obamanites think they are immune to hypocrisy, or are just too ignorant to make the connection.

Now that the oceanographers have spilled the beans, at least to the public, everyone else knew what was going on, does anyone think things will change?

We the people are suppose to be gov't regulators..... But not too many common citizens can write big enough checks to keep their attention.

Ferrosynthesis says..."Perhaps he's letting BP fix it because it's their fault and not ours"

But the Ocean and ecosystem they are destroying is "ours". They (BP) have shown incompetence, deception, and greed in this entire disaster and it's aftermath, and should be banned from any drilling operations on US coastlines (along with Transocean, Haliburton or any others found responsible.) Any government representatives found to have contributed to this disaster through lack of enforcement, corruption, or deception should also be held accountable and removed from their position.

I am hoping President Obama will follow this path, but he needs to take control of the management of this spill from BP...immediately, and send independent experts to PERMANENTLY CAP THIS LEAK and orchestrate the clean up efforts...as well as determine measurements such as spill size. Open communication of accurate facts is owed to the American people.

DEEP WATER DRILLING SHOULD BE PERMANENTLY HALTED AT THIS TIME. Everyone should be contacting their government representatives about this.

Simply put, the Administration has dropped the ball big time on this one...

The interesting thing is that both Obama and the scientists are right. Obama's hands are still tied by the test drilling agreement made during the Bush administration and by the fact that the MMS was "re-missioned" to be more aggressive on detecting under-reporting of oil extracted than for environmental concerns. Technically, the well in question had not yet been moved into production and was, therefore, still a test well.

In addition, the Cheney energy policy places severe caps on the liability of drilling contractors (Haliburton --- $40 million), rig owners and operators (Transocean --- $40 million) and oil companies (BP --- $75 million.) The liability insurance requirements were reduced so much that they are effectively zero. These were passed into law as a part of a defense appropriations bill. The attendees and notes from all the Cheney energy policy meetings were withheld by the Bush White House and thousands of pertinent emails have "disappeared." The caps were cited by the White House as proof of how badly tort reform was needed to keep the

But the most important restriction placed on the government by the Cheney energy policy was to restrict access for 2,500 foot radius around the well site. BP has not allowed any videos of the leaks except for several clips of the main leak that last less than 30 seconds, even though the cameras (over a dozen) are running continuously. This is to prevent the videos from being used to calculate the flow rate. BP has also refused to allow any flow-monitoring devices to be placed by either the federal or state governments or by scientists.

It would require going to contracts modification courts (about a two-year process) to get the test drilling agreement changed. It would require that laws be introduced in Congress to remove or increase the liability caps (and even then it could not be done retroactively), increase the amount of liability insurance required, or allow the government complete access to all parts of the wellhead in an emergency. And even if such a bill was introduced, the GOP, together with Democratic congressmen from Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas would prevent such a bill from getting through the Senate.

What we need to watch is how much pressure is placed on BP to "voluntarily" take more than $75 million in responsibility. So far, they are only saying that $625 million is covered (BP - $75m, Haliburton - $40 million, and Transocean -$591 from recovered insurance money.) We also need to watch how safety and environmental restrictions are enforced going forward.

Because the GOP is opposing every move by Obama, they will try to block any legislation that penalizes oil companies, rig owners, or ancillary oil drilling service companies such as Haliburton. And in the past decade over 70% of oil company political contributions went to Republicans.

It is interesting to note at this point that BP America has very little in the way of assets. And Haliburton is now a Dubai-based company (who was pouring concrete at the time of 19 of 36 blowouts in the Gulf.) Transocean has gotten a "friendly" judge in Texas to rule that the rig was actually not an oil drilling rig, but a 1850's-vintage steamship. This caps their liability at the value of the "ship" and its cargo by virtue of the 1851 Streamship Liability Act.

It is also interesting to note that BP is the largest supplier of petroleum products to the U.S. military around the world. Cheney was the former CEO of Haliburton and received $60 million in "deferred compensation" during the first two years of his term. Then the rules were changed so that deferred compensation no longer had to be reported. Most estimates put Cheney's Haliburton income while Vice-President at between $200 and $650 million.

So the ranters can blame Obama, but I need to see who help write the Cheney energy policy before I even begin to listen to any blaming it onObama.

Hope and change? It's really gross inexperience, incompetence, and arrogance--a very dangerous combination. I hope that you lefties are happy with your choice and the utter destruction and catastrophe for which YOU are responsible. He will wreck this entire country. Today it's the Gulf, tomorrow the Atlantic Coast, and then he will ruin your town, if it isn't ruined already.

I wonder just how many positions that are desperately needed to be filled in these agencies for them to do their jobs are still sitting in the Senate being blocked by the GOP. Last count was over 70 nominees, some for over a year. And then there is the issue of agency budgets to contend with as well. If there is no money in the agency, how are they supposed to do the jobs we are now blaming them for not doing. Salazar has spent the last 15 months trying to reform the entire Department of Interior, not just the MMS. I guess people always expect problems that have taken decades to create can be solved at the stroke of a pen immediately upon being sworn into office. They forget that CONGRESS has to approve most if not all such changes in agency structures. We've seen the inability of Congress to get much done in the past 6 decades that really protect our citizens and the environment. The POTUS is not the person to be blaming. The people to blame are the idiots in the agencies who don't do their jobs and Congress who doesn't give them the power to do their jobs correctly.

Well put KJR. I think some criminal charges for defrauding the American people wouldn't be a bad idea. Of course those could lead all the way to the White House.......

anti-trust, too much gets lost in the beauracratic vacuum that we call "gov't".

Ferrosynthesis II

Funny how the right wants government intervention if they can bad mouth the president for not "doing enough" and then bad mouth him if he intervenes. Hypocrisy runs rampant.

"The right" has nothing to do with this. NOAA is mostly liberal environmentalists. Most liberals on here can't even fathom the possibility that a conservative could even have the potential of being a scientist (we're all redneck hillbillies who inbreed and read the bible right after target practice, right?). The blame game of blaming a president for every single thing that happens got out of control in the Bush years by the left. I kept trying to tell people you don't want to start that kind of trend. Newer, younger voters just getting into politics are going to see that as the way things are done and it'll turn around and bite you on the butt. See now?

As someone who knows a president has absolutely jack and poo to do with things like this, this just seems to be a stupid push to tell BP to stop trying to fix the leak and go take some measurements instead so they can whine about it more. What idiots.

Mary Robertson - Obama has been in office for 16 months. You and other Obama fans like you don't want to accept the fact that there comes a point when he has been in power long enough that he can no longer blame problems on the previous administration. The fact that he is destroying this country has nothing to do with whether he is black or white but everything to do with his hidden agendas. Obama has done virtually nothing in regards to this oil spill other than ignore it as much as possible and hope that it goes away without making him look bad. He hasn't done or said anything about it this week because he has been too busy kissing the a$$ of the president of Mexico and apologizing for laws against illegal immigration that were long overdue being passed in Arkansas. After all, he doesn't want to offend those illegal immigrants because he sees them as a huge voting block for himself if he can find a way to legalize them.

The EPA was too busy celebrating "Earth Day" rather than PROTECTING the Environment (it's only in their name!!) when this disaster struck!! The bottom line is these pocket protector Poindexters need to quit "accusing" the President and start using any available resources to track this spill if it's that important to them!! The government needs to be concerned with PROTECTING the coasts for damage THAT IS OCCURRING (as on Louisiana's Bayous ) rather than where it MIGHT OCCUR ( Florida and the rest of the East Coast)!!

Jed: if you respond to a comment that has been collapsed by Obama's thought police, you get collapsed with it. Sometimes, you have to "double up" the comment if you demand to express yourself as a free American.

Amazing how these so called scientists are so spot on and you conservative, racist, Obama hating Klan members are embracing science now. However when scientists indicate that human activity is partly responsible for global warming, the scientists become a bunch of tree-hugging, pinko liberals.

You people are pathetic. The Katrina disaster caused human casualties, which the redneck bush simply flew over in Marine One. Then bush had the audacity to pay a complement to the republican jackass "Brownzie" for doing a good job. None of you gave a damn because it was poor, Black folks trapped and dying in that disaster. This oil spill hasn't killed anyone yet, except a lot of marine life. Now all of a sudden it's been scientifically proven that this was all Obama's fault?

I suppose if you're childish and ignorant enough to have voted for bush, twice, you're stupid enough to believe anything.

Thanks Clint, I know, just couldn't help needling the collapse happy O supporters out there. The truth is really stinging this time.

Mary Robertson #3.16,

As to your complaint about the slow response from the federal government for Katrina, if you check the federal government cannot come in and take control of operations without first receiving an invitation from the governor. The governor delayed in making the request/invitation to the federal government.

Ferrosynthesis II

Funny how the left claims they want more and more government but then when a disaster like this occurs the excuse is,,,,

There is nothing the government can do anyway.

So why do we have FEMA? Why do we have Homeland Security? Why do we have the EPA? Why do we have the Department of the Interior? Are they only supposed to deal with potholes, jaywalking and cigarette butts on the ground? We spend HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars on all these regulatory and response agencies and they continue to fail over and over.

Why doesn't FEMA have a response plan for a catastrophe of this magnitude? Why doesn't the Depatment of Interior have responsibility for granting BP exemptions of the well site less than a month before the disaster?

Why?

Because government has and continues to be incompetent in being proactive rather than reactive to disasters. If Katrina wasn't an exposure of the inability of government to be ready for a disaster this event should have been an obvious concern with thousands of platforms in the Gulf.

More government is never the answer. More EFFICIENT government is the answer. Efficiency has never been shown to equate with size, it only hampers the process through layer upon layer of bureauacracy. But government has proven their inability to be efficient time and again. Why wasn't there a plan for this size and scope of disaster in the system by any of these agencies?

Yes, BP is responsible for their oil rigs but our government is just as responsible if they continue to argue we need more rules and regulations. How much MORE government will be required to have the appropriate plans in place ready to unleash? Twice the size? Three times the size? Our government didn't even have the fire-resistant booms necessary to attempt in-situ burns of the surface oil. Not to worry, I'm sure Obama will call on his main disaster relief person, Kevin Costner will fix it.

If Bush's lack of response after 4 days was a concern to the Left, Obama's lack of response to this mess after 4 weeks should be considered criminal.

Actually, most scientists employed by NOAA right now were hired during, and by, the Bush Administration. I've met a few scientists in my day, and if I can judge from those encounters, they are about the least political people on the planet. They do tend to be on the progressive side when they express any preference at all, as is so often the case with educated people. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure most ditch-diggers are "conservatives" - low taxes, job creation, that sort of thing appeals to them more than anyone, especially since they generally don't have enough education, which would of course have tilted them a bit more to the left.

You can take that anyway you want. Based on their profession, I would say NOAA scientists are indeed concerned about the environment, which would indicate a tendency to lean left. But most of them were hired by a conservative administration. Considering all of the above, I'd say NOAA itself must be fairly neutral (GASP!).

Julian

You must have cement in your veins because talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.

I suppose if you're childish and ignorant enough to have voted for bush, twice, you're stupid enough to believe anything.

You are the epitome of naive!

When you hear someone say you are gull-ible, it doesn't mean you can fly and eat fish whole with that gaping orifice you call a mouth.

' “It seems baffling that we don’t know how much oil is being spilled,” Sylvia Earle, a famed oceanographer, said Wednesday on Capitol Hill. “It seems baffling that we don’t know where the oil is in the water column.” The administration acknowledges that its scientific resources are stretched by the disaster, but contends that it is moving to get better information, including a more complete picture of the underwater plumes.'

This disaster happened 33 days ago, and we still don't know how much oil is leaking?????? This is worse than incompetence - is shameless.

Here is a comment that shows an exceptional grasp of the current political situation by;

Boldfresh

“The Liberal Main Stream Media (has) realized that many Americans were duped by the "Hopey Changey" thingy and the romanticizing of the moment. You all know the media saw the election of the first black president as a journalistic Paradise. This was their utopia. A Pulitzer Prize moment that doesn't come around very often. This was their moon landing. They grabbed the opportunity and shoved it down every uninformed American's throat. And the American people got caught up in the hype and made some of their most irrational decisions ever. This election was more about the media driven disdain for Bush than any possible benefit Obama could produce. Coupled with the weakness of the McCain ticket they had no option but to pick between the lesser of two weaknesses.

Now after the smoke has cleared and the confetti has gone they realize the horrible mistake they have made. Obama's inexperience coupled with his narcissism and his obvious disdain for our country is being exposed everyday. He never had a real job, he was pushed through the system and never realized what it took to be a true American. Politics is the only thing he knows, and this is even being challenged as his mediocre presidency continues.

So now as the country recovers from their hangover they are finally seeing the true Barack Hussein Obama. It's no longer Hope & Change, it's becoming Rope & Chains. The obvious Liberal Progressive socialist inspired candidate is being exposed. Along with his inexperience is his inability to unify anyone including his own party who struggles to find direction under their community organizer. This is the most divisive president I can remember. His inability to create any type of bipartisan effort is a testament to his incompetence and inexperience.

The most interesting aspect of this is that, had Obama concentrated most of his efforts on the economy and creating true long term domestic jobs, we would be recovering much faster, and then his bankrupting of our nation wouldn't have occurred even with his extravagant socialization agenda.”

Those scientist are all obviously racist.

The scientists in this article are probably employees of FAUX news. That wouldn't surprise me at all. lol

If President Obama had not handled the disaster in the way that he has, you can be certain he would be getting criticized from the right for some other reason. Going too fast, going too slow, spending too much money, not spending enough money. The right was bound and determined to make him "wrong" no matter what he did.

So now weve come to b**** on obama as well? hes not all powerful, yeah he should of taken a look at what our policies were, but the explosion itself was completely not his fault. BP had violated a million different laws, codes, policies, whatever regardless of whatever the government said. If we had changed those policies before-hand, who's to say that BP wouldn't have ignored them too? This was gonna happen whether Obama looked into the policies or not, BP and BP alone f***ed the ocean up. End of story.

What you don't like negative comments on our inept president. I guess his jobs at ACORN ,Joyce Foundation and his 165 days in the Senate with all those present votes (when a yea or nay was required) , did not properly prepare him to handle national crisis. He is present but he just don't know what to do with out his propaganda teleprompter

Ham...Earles and Steiner are both the real deals. Very accomplished conservationists. Earles actually started a company that developed equipment for untethered deep ocean human exploration. Steiner was very big in assessing the Valdez spill. As much as I hate to see Obama be blamed for this, I think he is dropping the ball a bit. Could have called in the Army Corp of Engineers maybe...but would run the risk of being blamed for a governement takeover of the Gulf

The Army Corps wantd to blow the thing shut on day one. Still could. Check my posts from 3-4 weeks ago.

You have your head so far up Obama's rear that you will never see daylight. Go to CNN, ABC, etc. to find your truths. Quit your @!$%#ing and belly up to the bar and see this for what it is a disaster and in these times there is always a lot of finger pointing. Why they just can't get there heads together a figure a way to solve the problem rather than placing blame in times like these is unforgivable but it is always about money and/or politics rather than reality. People like you who run at a news agency for planting a story like this make me ill!!!

was gone for a week, out of state, looking for more work in a haystack. so just now catching up, and cansee our poser for a president, still hasnt got a clue. but this was kind of funny...

“We are shoving pizzas under the door, and they are not coming out until they give us the answer,” he said.

meanwhile the pizza party rages on behind the door, while the pizza delivery boy awaits his payment i am guessing. if this was taken seriously fron the start NOAA would not have take 3 weeks to call in it's mothership, it would have been more like "we have a problem, get your ass out here...NOW!" i would have thought too that certain more dense oil under heavy water pressure would have broken up, but never thought it to remain under water, kinda sux really bad now, this makes Valdez look like someone spilled a drop of milk on a paper towel. Just goes to show how the Brit's still have their fingers in our soup. Personally, being this negligent, we should kick or sieze every rig they have in our waters. I can understand all too well this is and has been a serious problem from the start, to accept and deal with it, is one thing, to try and hide, and underplay is another, and a huge step in the wrong direction.

Time to fess up, and stop cowering behind the queen's gown... Kinda funny, wondering where the rest of the Bush on Oil bashers are, thought they would have come out in larger groves.... but then again, the koolaide stream still flows at a record rate, while jobs remain at it all time fixed low.

was gone for a week, out of state, looking for more work in a haystack. so just now catching up...

So when you were out of state you couldn't figure out how to access the internet?
Might explain why you're having a tough time finding work ...

Really... them is just being mean to your buddy? Snap out of it HAM.... this is no less an absolute blunder then what Bush was blamed for in New Orleans. If Bush were still in the White House every single one of you Bam Bam Gomers would be losing your minds. You would be walking around in circles in front of the White House accusing Bush of PURPOSEFULLY destroying the Gulf of Mexico and saying he was doing it because some of the people who live on the Gulf are Black. NO ONE is buying your or the rest of the National Media's unwillingness to report truth and be fair. The lights are on full blast and you and yours are standing in the lights of truth.... Obama is/was and will forever be known as a fraud, a liar and the worst mistake the voters of this Nation have ever made.

Perhaps instead of working on this problem, Obama can have his people apologize to China, the second most murderous regime in this century only behind Stalin's Russia for us having immigration laws again..... We have had it with elitist morons and their Bullshyt. If you thought YOU were pissed about Bush... then you will have NO IDEA how pissed the rest of us are on a TRUE CRIMINAL FRAUD and wanna be European Socialist.

I live in South Louisiana and all I can say is this. I sure hope Obama is paying MSNBCallot of money for all of these public relation articles they keep writing. This article says the government has deployed 1,105 boats to help fight the spill. What a load of crap!!!!. It is true we may have that many boats but the Federal government has'nt deployed one of them. These boats are our boats, Shrimp boats, crabbing boats, fishing, oyster ,charter and even personal boats. Some are being paid by BP,some are being paid by the state of Louisiana and some are not even being paid, but the federal government isn't paying for any of them. All the government cares about is ,that this spill might reach Florida, who cares, its already reached our shores and nobody seems to care.

MSNBC, I have one message for you. Stop working for the goverment and start working for the people who pay your bills, the people of this country.

Moxie-784887

was gone for a week, out of state, looking for more work in a haystack. so just now catching up...

So when you were out of state you couldn't figure out how to access the internet?
Might explain why you're having a tough time finding work ...

well Moxie, unlike some who have the luxury of sitting on a fat azz all day net surfing, you might want to take into cnsideration, there are not just a handful of people out looking, but in my state hundreds of thousans, not to mention the state on each side of me as well. Thus, i also go door to door, loking for a job. See before you go on your little almighty rant, my job is welding. IF i am lucky enough to find a place that IS hireing, there are usually about 50 more people when i get there, just like me looking for that same job. THEN if i am lucky, i have enough to get an interview, usually includes a welding test, i need to be there to take it, not something you can do online. SOME jobs before you can get hired, you need to prove you have the skills, not just that you can pretend to have them, as i have seen happen from people who have taken weld tests, and failed miserably. Altho i am a fantastic welder, and my welds flawless, there are thousands out there, just like myself who can weld just as good. I have 22 yrs+ welding exsp. $ i have made in the past is a bit of a hinderance, because employers want cheap atm. When they see i steadly made 17+ per hour, they dont ask right off if i'd settle for 13 an hr, or in most cases as of late, less, not when they can hire some kid who has no shop skills, took a simple welding course, and can pass a test doing remedial welding, i mean why bother even talking to someone if you think your going to be laugheed at right? MAybe it's a bit hard for you to understand, sucking koolaide all day surfing the web, looking for crap to do while you wait for your welfare check to come in, unemployment is no diffrent btw, but not all jobs can be found online. Actually, my last 3 jobs, i got just by walking in, and asking to take a weld test, when they had no ad. Union shops dont post ads on the web, btw. (altho i despise union shops, am willing to work in one) Fact is, every place i stopped at, is looking to try and just get back the people they have on layoff..STILL.

Might i suggest next time before cramming your foot so far down your throat you tickle your anus, maybe asking what someone does before getting high and mighty on them, might help prevent that from happening. SO THAT my little big mouth'd friend, is why i am branching out looking in other areas looking for work.

The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending May 8 was 4,625,000, a decrease of 40,000 from the preceding week's revised level of 4,665,000. The 4-week moving average was 4,642,500, a decrease of 9,500 from the preceding week's revised average of 4,652,000.

http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/ui/eta20100682.htm

with all of THESE people, i am 1 of those, just 1, out of 4,652,000 out of work right now. we in this nuber alone, have been looking for work, past our benifit amount. Let's also take into effect, that altho it shows an increase in people being hired, there is also the fact people are still filing for new claims, because of lost jobs. So rather than run on your little rant about me having to exsplain WHY I WENT TO ANOTHER STATE TO LOOK FOR WORK, why dont you upstep me, and SHOW me why i dont need to. cause lord knows EVERY ONE in Gillett wis is looking for welders right? Dont think i havent looked for other types of work i am able to do either, like machine operation and so on, because little person i have. I have more exsp in my pinky, than you seen to have accumulated in your vast amount of hoopla life.

oh, and Moxie.... i have no need whatso ever to exsplain myself, just need to rub your nose in it a bit for being ....well just you.

jed

You can blow a well fire shut on the surface becasue the blast "blows out" the big match. This is under water and is a leak. "Blowing it shut" would probably increase the leak as much as it might stop it. BP is doing what they can, the problem is they shouldn't have been allowed to drill without a recovery strategy, which they obviously don't have.

This is a difficult technology and simple minded solutions as usual don't work.

Ferro, it actually could work because the actual reservoir is almost two miles further under the bottom. There is no way a charge designed to displace large amounts of earth similar to mining charges could get to the reservoir. It would either collapse the shaft or move enough material on top of the shaft to seal it . I do not see how trying could hurt at this point.

jed,don't you think the water will carry massive amounts of sedement away from ground zero?

Don't know, If the bottom is shale under mud and I do believe it is, the shale could be shifted enough to collapse the shaft with a side directed charge, I would think.

I dont know mountain Mike, looks like Limbaugh was right again, see excaliburs link below, the feds were there just hours before it blew, Obama might of actually did it? and to think that a month ago rush actually said this, the man is definitely is a head of everyone on this incident.

If what you say is true, then why this???

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/04/transocean-deepwater-hori_n_563042.html

Bush didn't cause Katrina either but he sure go blamed for not following up. obama response was to send in lawyers. Brilliant!

With the profound depth of thinking exhibited in the posts by GER and TOM (#s 5.1 and 5.2) I suppose we should reinvestigate how Ronald Reagan actually caused the explosion of the Challenger Shuttle in 1986 by not having better scientific investigations about effects of cold on rubber O-rings.

Come on now, Presidents are human like most of us and unlike Rush and his cronies on FOX who are superhuman deep thinkers and philosophers

Boy the BP\GOV\Obama trolls are out in force. I have never seen comments as tame as those collapsed before. Keep it up you are only reenforcing the truth.

BP definitely should not get a "pass" either. But that doesn't change the lack of action on the part of the government after BP caused the problem. Obviously, BP deserves the most blame, but the fact that they do does not mean we should give the government a "pass" either.

The "Huffington Puffinton Post"??? are you kidding me? What a waste of time and ink.... That Liberal rag is so far in bed with those counting on Obama doing his deeds that they will say anything... be it for or EVEN AGAINST him... since eating their own is the Liberal way. No, I will not waste any more time with that Agenda laden piece of propaganda.

I don't know mountain mike but how much money did BP give to the Obama group for his election and for the regulators to look the other way?

Umm yeah, that's a smart idea. At this point, the spill is going to cause catastrophic damage to our ecosystem and the solution is to blame BP and let them fix it? In the meantime, let the ecosystem get completely destroyed.

How about the government get the Marines/Navy on the issue, cap the dang spill and SUE the crap out of BP for the cost. ITS HIS JOB to protect the national security of this country, doesn't matter whose fault it is in the short term.

Obama is epic fail--Holding Million dollar parties to invite foreign leaders to condemn states in his own union paid for by our own taxes, not using our government resources to protect the environment and people's jobs who rely on it, and Bankrupting our treasury. And thats just a few of the most recent issues.

Obama has run out of excuses. The buck stops at him. If he can't handle the heat, he needs to get out of the kitchen. That goes for congress too. I'm tired of working my butt off everyday to make these people richer.

Actually Derek, if you read the link, it points to a story about TransOcean and the Deep Water Horizon getting an award from the MMS for its safety record.

Which is on the one hand ironic, and on the other hand points to a couple possibilities: that despite an outstanding safety record, $h!t sometimes happens that's bad and/or the MMS was well and truly in bed with "big oil".

I'm sure part of the point on the part of the HuffPost is they received this award in '08, during the .... you guessed it, Bush administration. To which I would respond, why did it take a massive rig blow and oil spill for the Obama administration to notice that the MMS was in bed with big oil? He was going to "change" things, wasn't he? Isn't energy policy a favorite topic for him?

This really has nothing to do with the oil spill... whats the point in blaming people before it's fixed.

Sorry, people. I will give every President the benefit of the doubt, but Obama dropped the ball big time on this one. No, of course, no rational human being would expect he could route out corruption as deep-seated as what pervades our government organizations, but he sure as HELL could have made a better response to this spill and BP's outrageous claims! He's no better than Bush was, just scum in a suit.

I will say this. At least this disaster has awakened many people who were not paying attention to what's been going on in this country for decades, and hopefully, we will all remember that this is OUR country and that we CAN take it back from the corporations who bought our elected officials. And I don't mean vote out the Democrats and vote back in the Republicans! Why exchange one gang of criminals for another? We've been doing that every 4-8 years for far too long. It's time we sent a REAL message, not just to Washington, but to the RNC and DNC, that we are awake, paying attention, and very, very angry.

VOTE THEM OUT! VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS, regardless of party, and KEEP DOING THAT every time one of them comes up for reelection until they get the message (or until we bankrupt the lobbyists by forcing them to buy a new government every 4 years).

mountainmike, first, let's call this what it really is - a monumental leak, not an oil spill - it's not spilling, it's leaking from a large pipe that broke. NOAA should have been there as soon as it was reported, assessing the damage, and acting on it. Because there was no policing of the leak, BP decided to try to salvage the oil, rather than shut it down, and it still is flowing. It should be the responsibility of the government to protect us from disasters that could destroy our economy. What if the terrorists blew the oil rig - wouldn't our government act on it?

All three companies, BP, Transocean and Halliburton can take blame for the actual leak. The Cheney administration can take responsibility for lax regulations (Norway requires automatic switches? Norway? Effin socialists.) The Obama administration can suck it up for not climbing on board faster and forcing the corporations to do more. There's plenty of egg for everyones face here folks.

With that being said, quit drilling in my gulf. IF our beaches are to be covered with oil I simply can't wait for this to catch the gulfstream current and end up in Rush's front yard. Let's see how "natural" this catastrophe is when his property value drops like a rock.

Only thing this proves is that government regulation is necessary. this is what happens when big companies get their way people. deception is the name of their game, beware!

Big companies need to be regulated!!!

Seem's odd that any logical person would say, Obama should of planned, like the last 15 month's out of everything else going wrong with this country, he should looked in his crystal ball and figured this would of happened.

I also am not happy with the effort to clean this up, the government should do it even if BP isn't and just bill them. Tell them (BP) pay up or get out of dodge.

This is years of bad regulation, not just from Bush, or Obama, but from all the previous crooked political personnel getting their hand's greased by the oil companies (including the EPA and Mineral departments).

Skip

Recite an imaginary Bush F up.

Bill et. al.

OPver and over again....the government has NO resources to combat this type of disaster except regulation. BP should not be allowed to drill there, but they are still the only ones who can fix it. The governments response after the disaster has been fine, but before it did drop the ball.

Blonde

Make up more stories, it's fun.

GER

Just what we need is a slanderous fat man making up stories that are almost treasonous. But that's Limbaugh

Bush wasn't responsible for Katrina and Obama didn't cause the leak, directly. Local gov'ts dropped the ball, repeatedly, on Katrina. They had several days worth of notice before she hit. Obama let the drilling happen without a contingency plan in place. If the morons would have had one inkling of what in the hell they were gonna do if something happened at that depth, it would be a different story. The gov't shouldn't have to come running in every time someone stubs their toe, but a little guidance, and enforcement of, on how not to stub toes wouldn't be a bad idea.

They had several days worth of notice before she [Katrina] hit.

Actually, until the last minute, that thing was projected to be coming straight at Dallas, TX (where I live). The problem is the left started blaming Bush for not reacting then the story came out that Bush had been trying to get the Dem in charge to declare it a disaster area. Well that just wouldn't do for liberal media to report it that way so they just said Bush could have sent in the troops without permission. They just left out the part where that's called MARTIAL LAW. You really think Bush could have declared martial law, sent in troops into heavily populated "chocolate" neighborhoods, and been hailed a hero by the left? They would have crucified him! The Dem in charge there dropped the ball. Don't let liberal media spin something so blatantly obvious.

Sorry Jeremy, Obama did not let the drilling happen.....it was already in progress when he was inaugurated. All of those permits were issued long before then. It is true that the MMS should have STOPPED the drilling until all proper contingency plans were in place. That is not the role of any president, but the head of the agency or agencies involved.

As for other negative comments posted above, get your facts straight before condemning this POTUS. Read the "contracts" and definitions of terms of those "contracts." The US government cannot, under our federal laws, just go into and seize such an operation immediately upon such an event as this explosion. This is NOT a NATURAL event, but a man-made event. Comparing it to Katrina is NOT a valid comparison. It IS comparable to Exxon Valdez, and the federal response has been much more immediate and intensive than that disaster. There are many individuals, corporations, and agencies that can be blamed, and that goes back at least one to two decades. Each person involved should be held accountable once we determine all of the FACTS in this case.

Either way, local gov'ts f@#$ed up before the feds did. A city that far under sea level should have had a better contingency plan for themselves and not have had to depend on someone else. I know I would've. I hate depending on others. Oil hungry executives paying gov't officials off, I mean "lobbying for the cause", caused this.

Well said Mountain Mike (nice name by the way..)

We got to this point, this mess, because of our inherent GREED in the system. Something that has always been there yes, but has gone rampant during the last 'lame duck' administration. And here we are, blaming everyone except ourselves. We re-elected that administration too, really feel stupid now?

Our nation use to be one of great resolve to fix our errors, to fight the right battles, to stand up for what was humanely right. We are no longer that nation. We are complacent to regulate, to have plan's B and C when plan A doesn't work to contain a problem. We fight battles for miscontrued facts and self reliance. Then we let the lobbyists and resultingly the big corporations run the country. Unless this cycle changes, we will be no better than those countries rebelling against their government right now. The 50/50 split on all issues is a litmus test to that. We're not getting any better until we have the balls to accept a mistake and learn from it, rather than play the blame game and waste countless resources doing so.

anti-trust - you sound like a liberal. I have no idea if you are, but you sure sound like one to me. No problem blaming Bush for every financial disaster in the world, but heaven forbid anyone mentions anything bad about Obama.

You know anti-trust, there is another leader where his followers will kill, terrorize, maim, and ridicule if they mention him - Mohammed. Now we have Obama taking the same path and yet his defenders will defend him to their death it appears. I see a correlation between Obama and Mohammed. That is scary!

Obama let the drilling continue and supported it. He either knew there wasn't a plan of action in place for disasters or thought there was(plausible deniability). Why this leak can't be stopped is beyond me. I think it can but BP wants the oil out of it and has "contributed" enough money to the gov't that they are letting this happen.

In cognito & flbikerchick......Exactly what response from government were you looking for ? Aside from Coast Guard and NOAA , there is no "response team for deepwater blowouts" controlled by Washington. The government does not have some crack team of deepwater drilling experts hidden in the Whitehouse basement, their only possible response is administrative. The oil and drilling companies are responsible ( or irresponsible ) for drilling , cleanup, stemming leaks, etc, that is where the expertise is, that is where any available tools, ships, robots, engineers, etc are. Now you can surely blame Washington for not having strict enough regulations or enforcing what regulations exist, but that blame can span many administrations, congress, Dept of Interiors, etc. The whole idea of letting the oil companies make the rules did not start last year, it started in the 60's ! Washington's job is to make rules and enforce them, they have failed to do that for decades, they have no assets or expertise to stop leaks and until today, no one considered repair of leaking deep sea well heads a government function or responsibility . Is it your contention that the Dept of Energy and other government offices get involved with the actual running of the oil companies and supervise day to day drilling and pumping operations ? Or perhaps you feel we should have a new or added government agency for spill control and repair of drilling and exploration accidents ? How much additional government control of business do you want ? Maybe you want complete control by the government. Would you have this apply to all other industries as well ?

First of all, the title of the original article in the NY Times said nothing about Obama being blamed by scientists. This is a retarded title and whoever wrote the title is pure scum. SOME OCEANOGRAPHERS -- not all scientists -- are criticizing NOAA, not Obama, for their lack of response to the behavior of the deep gusher, since this is the first of its kind. Blaming Obama is simply retarded. Anyone have a clue about the duties of the Executive Branch of government? The head of the branch is Commander in Chief...in other words head of the armed forces. The title isn't director of NOAA, Supreme Overlord, or Knower of All Things. This is NOAA's ballgame...just like Katrina was FEMA's ball to drop, not Bush's. Stop using the president of the U.S. as the national scape goat you f****** idiots.

BP was leasing the rig. Transocean is responsible for the drilling operation and the proper maintenance of the rig, including the BOPs. Halliburton was responsible for the cement job which was intended to seal off the formation so that they could temporarily abandon the well, and move in for completion of the well. All three of these companies have been doing this for decades without an incident like this and know what they are doing. Mother nature simply overwhelmed man this time.

BP has been doing what they can to stop this gusher -- not leak. Claiming that they are simply trying to collect the oil and not contain it is idiocy. This incident is already estimated to cost them $13.5billion, they want to stop it asap. If they can manage to seal off the well head, they can always reopen it later.

You are so right.

How much oil money did BP give Obama?

"BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics."

And how about McCain?

"Since 1989, John McCain has raised more than $3 million dollars from the oil and gas industries"

John McCain's Close Ties to the Oil Industry: http://www.campaignmoney.org/mccainoil

On July 31, 2008, Campaign Money Watch released It's A Gusher: As John McCain Fights For Big Oil, They Open Their Wallets, a new report that features an in-depth analysis of how John McCain's campaign received an influx of Big Oil dollars after his June 16 reversal on offshore oil drilling. Download the PDF

EVERYONE is on the take for oil lobbyist money. So that leaves us judging by each person's legislative agenda. Is it favoritism toward Big Oil or is it holding Big Oil accountable?

Obama was brought up Christian. The persistence of far right wingers of characterizing Obama as Muslim is ridiculous and is based on racism.

Big Mike:

Thank you.

Flbikerchick:

Touchet:

Was Bush responsible for the Exxon Valdeze oil spill or was it the possibly DUI Captain at the wheel?

Steve:

"All three companies, BP, Transocean and Halliburton can take blame for the actual leak."

There are actually four companies, including Cameron - the Blow Out Preventer company. It is increasingly apparent there were serious Blow Out Preventer failures. This includes no brainers like faulty wiring and a dead battery. There is a full discussion of this at the discussion board Oil Drum.com.

The Republicans have received much more money from oil than the Democrats and that's a fact.

nwnative, really, sure about that or just spouting off?

since newsvine is collapse happy again, I'll help out the libs:

those scientists are racists!

still waiting for the media to tie those scientists to some conservative group in order to discredit them.

Obama just failed to police the industry and stood around while the oil poured out. Yeah, great job.

Even Obama has people to answer too, And receives a paycheck. Who's in charge?

cmon-864012 - Yeah, we're sure. You should know who is paid to say the things they do:

Oil & gas industry political contributions:

2010 (to date): $11,572,527 70% Republicans, 30% Democrats
2008: $35,595,537 77% Republicans, 23% Democrats
2006: $20,364,856 82% Republicans, 18% Democrats
2004: $26,077.264 80% Republicans, 19% Democrats
2002: $25,037,766 80% Republicans, 20% Democrats
2000: $34,323,192 78% Republicans, 21% Democrats

And that doesn't count what they spent on lobbyists. BP's lobbying costs alone were $15.6 million last year.

Anybody see a pattern here? I'd say they got their money's worth, though.

Obama got a total of $77,000 from them over the last 20 years, but NONE of that was during the Presidential campaign. He raised $750 million, but $0 was from PAC's.

Meanwhile the price of OIL is at 71.11 dollars a barrell, while prices at the Gas pump go UP.. WHO IS PAYING FOR THE SPILL. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????

However, I am VERY unhappy with the reponse we've gotten from Jane Lubchenko (head of NOAA) and Coast Guard Rear Admiral Mary Landry. They sound like BP spokespersons, not government employees who work for us. There is NO reason there should not have already been accurate measurements made of the spill rate - it sure looks like they're just covering BP's ass.

Fecal matter happens.

Real American,Jane Lubchenco is an oil company prostitute.Check her background!Visit my column and start clicking.You will understand what she is all about.I've been following her evil destruction for many,many months.EDF is her roots.Check out where thier money comes from.Shes been finacialy supported by Big Oil for a couple of decades.She dirty!

Obama lie to the American people and issue false numbers? certainly not.

By the way, the "stimulus" has saved or created over 3 million jobs. Oh, and healthcare "reform" will cost less than $1 trillion...until the $150 billion that was intentionally left out was added to the cost a week ago.

If he is speaking he is lying.

This is turning out to be Obama's Katrina. Already one person has resigned.

Obobo is not qualified to be prez, how much more proof do we need. The Communist in Chief is in way over his head, of oily water.

They are responsible for our general safety, not micro manage. It is very simply spelled out.... READ The Constitution.

Don't worry..it's all bush's fault...lol

Sorry: Oil drilling and oil spills not mentioned in Constitution...........Safety of fish and beaches also not mentioned..............So now what our conservative brethren who want less government, smaller government, less spending and less regulation::::

This is the Constitution you want to ALWAYS refer to so we MUST not go beyond exactly what it says and for heaven sake actually interpret the Constitution in ways not included by the founding fathers in past comments by our Supreme Court conservative judges and specifically John Roberts.

The company has refused to permit scientists to send equipment to the ocean floor that would establish the rate with high accuracy.

WTF????? Since when does BP own the ocean? We need to go down there with a big piece of pipe and weld it on the end. Then we find every politician that voted against raising the cap on damages and kick them out of office.

I can't believe they're arguing about the flow rate instead of coming up with a solution to stop it. Morons.

We need to go down there with a big piece of pipe and weld it on the end.

There is no way that welders (human or robotic) would be physically able to do that; the location of the break is much too cold & deep (high pressure) for that kind of a fix. That why BP had been trying to drop something on top of it.

I do wonder about the Army Corps' idea of blowing up the remaining pipe structure so that it is no longer attached to the ocean floor (where the pipe is working like a straw to bring oil to the point of the break). If the pipe was gone, would the oil continue to flow out from the bottom, or would there no longer be the physics for that to happen?

If the government didn't have it's nose into every facet of life in the USA, then when something like a disaster happens, private industry would get involved and clean it up. Not government.

Na, doesn't work that way Dave.... This has absolutely NOTHING to do with a government agency telling me what I can drive, what house I can buy, what appliances I can use and how much I want to spend on my heath care and who I want to spend it with. This is a NATIONAL EMERGENCY... one that has always been the full responsibility of the Federal Government... See, Dave.... If people like yourself were not sop busy trying to debunk the Right, you would understand that we know some Government is a necessity... but you do not spend so much on Nanny State programs and Bailouts for Union buddies that you lack the resources to fulfill your true obligations of National Defense and helping the Businesses and people of this Nation succeed... (Remember the constitution) "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".... Think making certain that an oil spill of this magnitude is handles fast and with all resources at our disposal has anything to do with "Promote the general welfare"??? That statement in the Constitution has NOTHING to do with "Welfare on a hand out basis" it is there to make certain we are protected and that our posterity is protected.... What has been done... Or NOT done in this case... is not being PROTECTIVE... and if it were not OBAMA every liberal left wing lunatic in the world would be going absolutely NUTS marching circles around the White House... try and call me a liar and make one of yourself.

What we want is an honest government that works for its people and not for its own sake. We want a representative republic that the forefathers established and we have abandoned. We want a government with morals above those of an alley cat. we want leaders who are not criminals (Frank, Dodd, Rangle, Geithner, Jefferson, and amnt others.

If people like yourself were not sop busy trying to debunk the Right, you would understand that we know some Government is a necessity..

If ALL of you would stop trying to convince everyone that a bought-and-paid-for political party has the interests of this nation at heart, we might actually be able to save ourselves. The blind stupidity of the people that continue to support both the Republican and the Democrat parties is sickening. YOUR PARTY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU! They only pretend to during elections. Is it so difficult to grasp that neither party represents the interests of the American people?

What happens to a fulcrum when you put too much weight on the right OR the left? The balance is in the CENTER.

more govt (socialism) oh oil spill by BP why is govt slow to do the dirty work? (blame Obama) tea party and rapeallifcan, what do you stand for? ANSWER=nothing

Dave, i'm here trying to figure out the same thing, but i guess it's the way of man to want to have our cake and eat it too...

Only thing this proves is that government regulation is necessary. this is what happens when big companies get their way people. deception is the name of their game, beware!

Big companies need to be regulated!!!

Yeah Tom1250870, safety costs money and regulation which means larger government to manage. So Dave is justified in saying, make up your mind on what you want.

Luger, you keep posting that but what it seems you fail to realize is that there WAS and IS government regulation. The AP is reporting that this rig was not inspected on schedule. Obama has dismantled the MMS because they were "too cozy" with big oil.

All the regulation in the world does absolutely no good at all if its not enforced.

There was regulation against ponzi schemes, and yet while Madoff was fleecing people of an estimated $50 billion, the SEC was ignoring it and surfing porn. There are Federal laws against illegal immigration, employment of illegal immigrants and international drug trafficking. That has not, and is STILL not stopping illegal immigrants coming here, working here and bringing drugs here, is it?

You're screaming for the wrong thing. We don't need more rules.

WE NEED SOMEONE ENFORCING THEM.

Meanwhile, all of the departments are fully staffed, they're getting nicer salaries than a comparable private sector employee with better benefits, ALL on the taxpayer dime and they're doing little to nothing.

Yes, lets create more non-functional government. /sarcasm.

MMS has NOT been dismantled yet.....that takes an act of Congress to do. Agencies are NOT at full staff.....the GOP is still blocking more than 70 key leadership positions in these very agencies/departments. Without effective leadership in the departments/agencies, who's guarding the henhouse (the rest of the staff who isn't doing the job correctly)? Rules have been watered down so much in the past several administrations (especially GOP administrations) and there is so much conflict in existing rules and laws, that even a "Philadelphia" lawyer often can't figure out all of the conflicts. That is why Transocean dug deep for that 1850's law to declare their oil rig as a "steamship" to avoid any liability.

Okay, split hairs on the dismantling - it's as good as done and probably the best thing to come out of this whole situation.

Maybe if Obama would stop appointing left-wing nut bags that are avowed communists to every possible position, his appointments would get through faster? He did one disastrous recess appointment already, why doesn't he do more? Did you object when Democrats blocked Bush's appointments?

HE'S IN CHARGE. Deal with it. We have rules, they're not being enforced now, anymore than they were under Bush. He was going to change that and didn't. That's where it ends, as far as I'm concerned.

Obama is NOT micro managing all the oil rigs in the Gulf, he is holding them accountable to industry standards for deep ocean drilling. If they are going to get this careless, cut corners and regulators not regulate - we need to stop all deep ocean drilling. The Blow Out Preventer issues in this case were careless and brainless. It is starting to sound like The Three Stooges Do The Gulf.

What a crook. You want to clean up one of the worst oil spills in the history of the county left to the state? How odd...When Katrina hit and the response should have been the state's responsibility everyone jumped on the current administration for not handling the Democratic politician's bumbling of the response.

How is an incident fifty miles out to sea the state's responsibility?

Pragmatic you do remember that Bush Sr. was President on March 23, 1989 when the Exxon Valdez dumped so much oil in Alaska

You are so correct when you said:

You're screaming for the wrong thing. We don't need more rules.

WE NEED SOMEONE ENFORCING THEM.

Thanks

That is a big problem. They don't know what they want. They just know they are angry. Angry about what? Isn't that obvious?

I am not a member of the Americans that have the courage to try & stand up for what is right but I am so proud of those Americans. They are angry & they know what they are angry about.

1. The economy

2. No jobs

3. The amount of money that America owes other Countries & we will never be able to pay back in two lifetime

4. A President that runs America down at every opportunity

5. The cost of every thing that we need to live going sky high.

6. The Real Estate debacle

7. The Dow drooping almost 1000 points in this month & the month is not over yet.

8. Giving big Cooperations & big Banks billions of dollars because they are to big to fail.

9. Buying 2 Auto manufactures

10. Spending us into Bankruptcy

This list could go on forever but this Democrat is to busy trying to get people out to vote and free Americans from the underhanded crooks that make Washington their home, so we will be rid of everyone from the arrogant President on down to the last sorry crooks in Congress.

I'm also pissed abot two frikkin wars,losing all those beautiful kids in the beginning of thier lives.I wish georgie were here right now.I would pull his pants down and man spank him.There is nothing as pathetic as a man getting spanked.

bore-head then you would have to "man spank Obama also" because he has continued the same wars & escalated them. He has doubled the spending & pushed a H/C Bill down our throats that is nothing more that a huge unfunded give away. How the — — — — will we ever pay for all the other unfunded give aways that Obama has put in place. He has hired enough people to put on the Government payroll, and the money paid to those worker would run this Country for the next decade. Thank You

Actually, it's Bush's fault ... If he would chop more wood on his ranch during his retirement we wouldn't need to drill for all this oil.... LOL

Only thing this proves is that government regulation is necessary. this is what happens when big companies get their way people. deception is the name of their game, beware!

Big companies need to be regulated!!! that's all it come down to

Darthfrodo.......suggest you do some reading on conditions at 5000 feet below sea level, you clearly do not understand the problems at hand.

A finger pointer a day keeps the Devil in Play. (Racism has No place in Todays World)!!!

Heh,HEh, Heh, Heh.

LOL

Only thing this proves is that government regulation is necessary. this is what happens when big companies get their way people. deception is the name of their game, beware!

Big companies need to be regulated!!!

Luger, you keep posting that but what it seems you fail to realize is that there WAS and IS government regulation. The AP is reporting that this rig was not inspected on schedule. Obama has dismantled the MMS because they were "too cozy" with big oil.

All the regulation in the world does absolutely no good at all if its not enforced.

There was regulation against ponzi schemes, and yet while Madoff was fleecing people of an estimated $50 billion, the SEC was ignoring it and surfing porn. There are Federal laws against illegal immigration, employment of illegal immigrants and international drug trafficking. That has not, and is STILL not stopping illegal immigrants coming here, working here and bringing drugs here, is it?

You're screaming for the wrong thing. We don't need more rules.

Two can play this game, Luger. You want to tag every thread with your whining for government regs, I'll tag your tag.

WE NEED SOMEONE ENFORCING THEM.

Meanwhile, all of the departments are fully staffed, they're getting nicer salaries than a comparable private sector employee with better benefits, ALL on the taxpayer dime and they're doing little to nothing.

Yes, lets create more non-functional government. /sarcasm.

Luger and PTAF both need to stop repeating their posts.

Didn't they tell you Lousiana state is making it illegal for any fishermen to procure a Lawsuit of any kind against the industry!!! sniff sniff, I smell something!!!

Nice clean drilling through all those republican years, low unemployment and prosperity for all, ever thing went to crap when Obama and the dems took over, he cant do anything right!!

Hey Diane.. one more thing... YOUR OBAMA administration was going to drill EVEN MORE....

Where in the hell have you been? Under a rock... Obama was going to drill more offshore... it's not a republican thing.... idiot

I guess the fact that Obama was expanding offshore drilling prior to this disaster was BUSH'S FAULT???? LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL

Morning Diane....several have made the same comment that BP should be held responsible and I have to shake my head.

BP from the start took responsibility and is paying the bills for the cleanup and will foot the bill of lawsuits and damage claims as is required by federal law for responsible parties. How much more responsibility can they take? Think on it like this. A friend of mine is a college instructor. One of his students got an A in his course yet complained because he questioned some of the points on one of her essays on the final exam and took off a few points. He said, what, do you want be to give you a bigger A?

I get the feeling people want BP to readily admit they planned and executed the entire accident. Negligence or not, it WAS an accident and BP has taken full responsibility many times over.

Diane, Were you one of those Libs who went on about how Obama was a visionary a couple months ago when he wanted to open up more off-shore drilling? Don't be a hypocrite here.

As far as pointing fingers? Aren't you pointing fingers by trying to blame the Republicans? Again, don't be a hypocrite.

Dick Cheney and his closed door deals with the oil companies are NOT the cause of this problem nor of the fact that he still has the Halliburton stock in his accounts...............duh.........Thus Obama must be to blame because Republicans being as conservative as they are ALWAYS look out for the environment and us common citizens who make less than 5 million a year as classified as rich by YOU KNOW WHO.

Diana, you might as well get use to it. It happened to Bush all the time. He got blamed for all the housing meltdown, when that was under Clinton....look it up. I did, I wanted to know who was responsible. It was in the newspaper (in 1999- under Clinton) about how this was dangerous a direction Clinton was taking (even though it might have been well meaning). Bush warned Congress from 2001....2008 increasing the number of warnings each year! However, our competent (or controlling) Congress sat there and just declared that there WASN'T a problem. There are LOTS of YouTube showing this. Can you imagine where we would be if Congress had listen to Bush in 2001 or 20002 or....?

It is good to take an investigative approach, if you don't think Obama is to blame research and research other issues, too. Our media isn't doing this, we need to do it.

What alot of us fail to understand is that the government is both republicans and democrats when you point fingers there are at least 3 pointing back at you. We all need to work together to find solutions to these problems and stop pointing fingers.

If anyone out there thinks this disaster would NOT have happened under a Republican administration, and that the response would NOT be EXACTLY the same, I have some prime real estate to sell you in Brooklyn. BOTH PARTIES ARE OWNED! Get it?

Why not? You radicals from the left always ponted fingers at Bush, many times the wrong finger. Why not blame Hussein? It was under his watch that this happened. He could have changed or enforced the laws and avoided the explosion. We might want to question Hussein's partner, Bill Ayers. He like to blow thing up.

Save the blame game. The only thing this proves is that government regulation is necessary. this is what happens when big companies get their way people. deception is the name of their game, beware!

Big companies need to be regulated!!!

I agree, Whembly. Refreshing! Let's find real solutions to solve our problems. And I am talking about the people not the politicians. The politicians are suppose to be representing us. If we pull together we can do it!

GetTheFacts-534839......Bush warned congress............Sort of like when the CIA warned Bush that terrorists were planning to fly airplanes into our buildings, so he went to Texas on vacation...... I agree with you that the housing mess started under Clinton, but Bush had 8 years and controlled congress for six of them during which he could have acted and did not. Blame falls on both sides of the aisle. It is time for Americans to get back to being loyal to America rather than a political party.

So what will you do to save it? Oh, yeah, vote in a Republican. One gang of organized criminals or another, what's the difference?

Yeah, but the democrats are in charge. Thet control government and refuse to allow the other party any imput into any role of the government.

Hmmm the party of NO sure has been controlling this "party in control" by blocking things, haven't they? NO party in the majority can get anything done under the Senate rules that allow one single Senator (no matter of which party or independent) to block any action on any bill or nomination confirmation.

Take a breath !

Another Obama flunky.

Only thing this proves is that government regulation is necessary. this is what happens when big companies get their way people. deception is the name of their game, beware!

Big companies need to be regulated!!!

MM,see my column,Ive been on NOAA for months. Skip,Jane Lubchenco is Obamas ultimate flunky.She could have prevented this. Luger,We need our elected officials and those they place in key positions,to enforce the laws already in place.Jane Lubchenco is oil dirty,Living of Pew Family Trust money,and carrying the EDF Agenda to NOAA.EDF is a corpoenviro group.Supported by BIG corporations and Sunoco.Shucks,even walmart is a BIG supporter.

That's also Bush's fault... LOL

LMAO, too funny!!

I hurt my leg this morning, must be Bush's fault. TFF

You should go back to school. You obviously have no clue about impeachment process, why we have it, when it can be used. Since you do not understand our system of government and how it works, I suggest you keep your ignorant comments to yourself until you learn at least a little bit about the government you hate so much.

Change? Anybody got a little change. I just need some change. Change, anybody? LOL

Tired... it's bush's fault that you have no change....lol

TFF

Agreed!!!!!!!

I was hoping for change also, and all I got was this wooden nickle.

Ya got Ron Paul!

MM -

Impeachment? Hmm.

Grounds for impeachment include treason, bribery and high crimes.

Treason = actions to help a foreign government seriously weaken the parent nation.

Refusing to enforce border security, while conspiring with a foreign president to continue to allow the influx of illegal aliens into our country could be described by a strict interpretation as treason. Refusing to uphold the Constitution, which demands the Federal government secure our borders, could be construed as grounds for impeachment.

Just "thinking" outloud, as it were.

MM is Right.....The President has to get Head or Abuse Cigar Tubes in the Oval Office to get Impeach!!!! Obama isn't there YET!!!!!! I'm sure there's an Affair in the Wings that will.....Make History One Day!!!! :-)

MM Obama has committed enough crimes to qualify for impeachment ten times over. Bowing to foreign leaders while ridiculing our country which makes us weak, not protecting our borders, bringing terrorists to our country, releasing terrorists, lying to the American people, and many more. Impeach Hussein now!!!!!!

Skip52 and all his/her likes should be send to Iran.

PragmaticToAFault........Sure we need strong borders like we had for the last few administrations. Is it your premise that the borders just became porous in the last 18 months ? I guess before that there were no illegals sneaking across, right ?

Skippy.....better read a little, then come back with 1 crime, any crime ( actually I can think of one that is pending, but you won't think of it ). Just because you don't like something does not make it a crime. Furthermore, there is a difference between "high" crimes and just screwups ( like offering someone a job to drop out of an election, had to help you there, I knew you would not come up with it. )

No but the O pandered to illegals like no other before him.

That's Bush's fault...lol

yeah because Bush never pandered to the Latin vote. My God man you're delusional

Bruce...it's Bush's fault that he's delusional....

It was Bush's fault that it took so long to blame Obama for this leak....LOL

Gee Doris, everyone blamed Bush for a hurricane why not blame Obama for the oil spill? If you are the president and it happens on your watch then you either get the credit or the blame. That's one of the pitfalls of being a "leader". When something good happens a leader praises others for the successful outcome, when some thing bad happens he accepts the responsibility. Obama has this a$$ backwards he tells us that he is the architect of the good and blame others for the bad.

Lynn,every great leader will tell you that they are only as good as the people they surround themselves with,and in this case of the damage to OUR ocean,and possibly the Atlantic,Obama has surrounded himself With incompetent cabinet heads,one being knowledgable of a foriegn company not in compliance.She could have prevented unheard of damage to our oceans and spared eleven lives.

HI bore...I won't argue what you said. The part I was getting at was simply the criticism of the lack of study, analysis and research, or the perception of the lack anyway, of what is going on right now.

Prevention is always the better course but once an incident occurs, response and recovery become the priorities.

Yes Lynn I agree.Visit my column and read the NOAA stuff.Shocking.The Director of NOAA is a stonewaller.Even Congressmen have to contact her three times after writing to her.Shes a real corpoenvironazi.Read the stuff and gather your own conclusion.Let me know!

He needs to look in the mirror so he can see the real person at fault!!

Would BIG OIL be so big if we left the keys on the counter and walked?

It's Bush's fault that he cannot look into the mirror at the White House.. .GW broke it...

To Hammer in a "Death Nail".....Obama would have to Reverse His Current Bill that approved More Offshore Drilling ....He'd have to admit to the Public that he "Acted Stupidly" and Spoke to Soon before having All the Facts, and just "Passed the Bill so he would know what's in it".........We ALL know that's NOT Going to Happen!!!! :-p

What about the responsibility of government to inspect these rigs and keep them working safely. You can't have it both ways. Eithet the government should control our lives or not. It is their responsinility. This is the change you voted for and the change we will eliminate in November.

Penny, with Air Force1 flying the inept around the world for seemingly no good reason Big Oil has it made!

Oh, also, do you drive? Do you take the bus? When your 'oil footprint' gets to "0" then, by all means, have at the Big Oil guys!

Don't forget the oil and natural gas used in power generation. Might as well cut the power to your home, Penny. Do that and then we might believe you.

What really pisses me off about this is the fact that BEFORE the mess is cleaned up and the leak stopped, everyone is playing the blame game. I don't blame the president for the mess, but I do wonder what else could have been done initially after the fire and leak. BP stated from the beginning that they would pay for the cleanup costs. Do we have any valid reason to believe they won't? If they balk on paying the costs, THEN let's haul them up in front of congress and the country and fine them.

Fix the problem before you fix the blame.

keep making excuses for his failures, wouldn't it be nice to have a president you didn't have to make excuses for because they were actually doing a good job? You should of voted for mc cain , would of saved you a lot of apologising and making excuses for a bad job being done.

Actually..it's Bush's fault for all of those inept govt. officials.... lol

According to the left it was certainly his fault during Katrina. Funny how the same thought process doesn't apply to the current president.

Why not? You blamed Bush for everything. What you sow, you will also reap. You sow corruption (election of Hussein and other socialists, and you reap coruption (socialist government).

It's actually Bush's fault that these blogs are here to spew out venom...

by the way... what good has he done??

Your right, many on am talk radio have come out and said that Obama in the short time hes been in office has done more harm to America than Hitler in world war 2 and stahlin during the cold war has ever did. Im not saying this myself, but I know Bortz has said this and I think many others.

this all sounds like racial profiling to me.

I will tell you what is repulsive. Treating foreign leaders and illegals better than American citizens is repulsive. Lying to the people is repulsive. Should I go on? In the words of Jimmy Durants, "I've got a million of em."

I agree...Both Bushes were very deceitful and had their own agenda regarding securing what grandpa bush and walker started. The Bush/Walker clan has their finger prints all over this world. Most criminals attempt to hide their involvement...The bush/walkers are above the law and they know it...

Talk about treating the american public poorly, lets send them to a "oil war" or a 'strategic base location war!'

Remember... if this would have happen on Bush's watch, you Obama lovers would have been all over him for not doing more!!!

Yawn. How unoriginal. You Bush worshippers and the Bush administration set the stage for this to happen through relaxed drilling standards and an ineopt set of regulations and regulators to manage BIG OIL.

Cheney was BIG OIL
Bush was BIG OIL

This is just the legacy of those two morons allowing the devastation of the gulf coast AGAIN

Fianlly, I find you characterization "Obama lover" to be quite offensive. You freakin cracker.

And Hussein is Big Socialist.

What do you people expect from a "community leader" who was only in congress for a short amount of time before the sheep voted him in as the POTUS. Seriously the guy didn't have the credentials before he was elected, so what is so suprising about the outcome of this whole fiasco? He has no idea what he is doing.

ya ya ya. Lincoln didn't have that much experience either. What B.S.

Obama won the election by a landslide........get over it.

Meanwhile price of OIL is at 71.11 dollars a barrel as prices at the gas pump go UP. WHO IS PAYING FOR THE SPILL???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Ask a quantum Physicist, you might get a better answer!!! Lol

What God? Dump dido head

Wrong. Obama is being blamed for things that are his fault or are on his watch.