People need to understand that this anger stems not from Muslim anger at just depicting Prophet Muhammad, but also because of the feeling of powerlessness due to constant Non-muslim invasion of muslim lands like in Iraq, Afghanistan, West Bank of Palestine, etc. They feel from my conversations with them, that we are not just trying to dominate them politically but also religiously and impose our will on them.
Spoken like a typical leftist liberal Muslim apologist. These poor radical Muslims who test the limits of freedom in all western societies are "powerless" due to OUR invasion ?.
You have dishonored yourself, if you are in fact a Marine sgt. These scumbags have been attacking people in Europe for the past 40 years. We did not go to Iraq or Afghanistan before 9/11 - right or wrong - your intent on drawing a connection here is absolutely dishonest.
I wonder, with your fervent defense of these Muslim radicals, which mosque do YOU belong to.
I feel so sorry for the poor muslims, No not really I despise Muslims and as soon as we realize no Christian will be safe while Muslims live the better off we will be.
I don't belong to any mosque, but serving with Iraqi soldiers and asking them and our interpreters about what motivates Muslim extremists has enlightened me. Moreover, ADHERENTS OF OTHER RELIGIONS HAVE REACTED VIOLENTLY TOO AND TRIED TO SUPPRESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
The various forms of religious-based, intimidation-driven censorship and taboo ideas in the U.S. — what people claim are non-existent except when it involves Muslims — are too numerous to chronicle. One has to be deeply ignorant, deeply dishonest or consumed with petulant self-victimization and anti-Muslim bigotry to pretend they don’t exist. I opt (primarily) for the latter explanation in most anti-muslim's case.
I have no idea what Janet Jackson's breast has to do with your ranting bull$%$@ defending Muslim radicals against the US and the free societies of Europe.
I will not be far or out of line saying that you may be the next Maj. Hassan massacring our soldiers.
For the safety and security of our citizens, soldiers and our nation, you should be monitored by the authorities.
All the signs are right there in your anti American rantings for everyone to read - which are quite similar to what that terrorist bastard said before Ft. Hood shooting.
Spoken like a typical leftist liberal Muslim apologist.
Spoken like a typical righty tighty whitey spin doctor... Why is it that when anyone tries to look passed the surface of something, to try to understand an issue, the rightwingers start slapping soundbite labels like "apologists" that don't even apply? Marine Sgt made no apology, (Neither did Obama for that matter, but lets not re-open that debacle of a debate). Even if you were of the mentality that there is no hope of EVER resolving any issues with the radical muslims, any miltary strategist or historian could tell you that you should KNOW YOUR ENEMY... and you're point of view suggests that you think you know all there is to know, Glenn Beck has given you the cliff notes, and anyone illuminating anything new is a traitor.... Sigh....
You have dishonored yourself, if you are in fact a Marine sgt.
I hope you have done some time in the armed forces if you are going to call his honor into question.... any and every member of military deserves respect and gratitude.
These scumbags have been attacking people in Europe for the past 40 years. We did not go to Iraq or Afghanistan before 9/11 -
Really? Then what was that whole Gulf war, Operation Desert storm all about? What about Afghanistan in the 80's? We've been in the mid east for decades...
right or wrong - your intent on drawing a connection here is absolutely dishonest.
How can "right" be dishonest?
I wonder, with your fervent defense of these Muslim radicals, which mosque do YOU belong to.
Ah... there it is... how very FOXian of you to question where his loyalties lie... It's not like he wasn't facing nightmares of life and death, and seeing friends die left and right while serving in Iraq... to protect people like me and YOU.
I have no idea what Janet Jackson's breast has to do with your ranting bull$%$@ defending Muslim radicals against the US and the free societies of Europe.
He was trying to educate you about censorship in America... it was your immature mind that focused on the breast and ignored the rest.
I will not be far or out of line saying that you may be the next Maj. Hassan massacring our soldiers.
Way out of line actually.
For the safety and security of our citizens, soldiers and our nation, you should be monitored by the authorities.
From what I'm gathering from your rants, I think for the safety of future generations you should refrain from reproducing.
All the signs are right there in your anti American rantings for everyone to read - which are quite similar to what that terrorist bastard said before Ft. Hood shooting.
Please illuminate us oh great patriot and protector of the bald eagle... please quote where he said something that was anti-American... Questioning policies of our government and institutions is EXTREMELY American... and if you had ever read the Declaration of Independance you would know that it is your DUTY as an American citizen to do so.
"Free speech" is only free as long as it isn't limited. Otherwise, it would be called..."Limited Speech". Perhaps we should suspend our rights as Americans because god forbid...(sorry...don't want to offend any Muslims)...Allah forbid...we offend any Muslims.
Does this mean I can threaten the life of Muslims that chant "Death to America"? Quite honestly that favorite quote of theirs...that offends me.
when a western goes to an arab muslim country , it is DEMANDED that they abide by local rules and customs , when "they" go elsewhere , they demand to change their host country to their standards . i call this "hypocrits"
We are destroying our society. Allowing the Muslims in at all. We need to deport all of the non citizen Muslims and check the naturalized ones. One Tim McVeigh and hundreds of Muslim extremists. Sure they are some good ones. How many true Americans must die so they can stay here. They come here and try to kill us.
Then you end up with a situation like during WW2 when we put Japanese Americans in concentration camps... it seemed like the right thing to do at the time, but it wasn't.
Not all muslims think the way these violent idiots do. I was just reading in the paper today, about a man who was here in NY on the morning of 9/11 and was stranded with his daughter in Manhattan, and an off duty cab driver picked them up, took them home (way out of his way) and refused to charge them. He was Pakistani, his last name was Mohammed.
I feel so sorry for the poor muslims, No not really I despise Muslims and as soon as we realize no Christian will be safe while Muslims live the better off we will be.
Millions of Muslims have died because of Christians. That Texas Christian cowboy Bush being one of the main perpetrators. Quite possibly the biggest buffoon of a President... Ever.
Some people are just not able to accept free expression due to the intolerance of their religion. Since they are not ready for the gift of freedom (of speech) and cannot accept a separation of church and state, Sweden should deport said troublemakers back to their intolerant theocracy/country of origin. P.S.: Swedish bands RULE!
I've long said that religious people are just a stone's throw from being poop-flinging chimps, and this is yet another piece of evidence to support my claim.
We did not go to Iraq or Afghanistan before 9/11 - right or wrong - your intent on drawing a connection here is absolutely dishonest.
We have been in the Middle East WAY before 9/11. In 1953 the US toppled the democratic government of Iran and installed a dictator. Guess what? The Iranians didn't like that too much.
We have had bases in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and Oman... supported by the dictator governments of those countries which are propped up by the US, but the majority of the population of those countries do not like the US being there.
Seriously, these Muslims have to take a really big chill pill! they're out of control, when they start messing with south-park, that's when they lost my support!! Go get them Cheney!!
Poor little Muslims are so misunderstood. Carbombings, plane bombings, plane hijackings, dirty bombs, etc. Why would anyone depict them as dogs? Dogs are kind and loveable. I would thing depicting them as snakes or any other cold blooded reptile would be more appropriate
You're all wasting time here ...he's no Marine ....any life srge I've ever heard or seen write anything of consequence DOES not express themselves in such a manner... hes a plant .... a "pfisher", either looking for radical hate statements or trying to evoke interest through the same.... not even an honourable muslim would stoop to "baiting" a response of religious intent and hatred...
You don't sound like any Marines that I served with. In fact, your writing style is suspect. And your argument is similar to most of the dead heads that try to sell the crap that everying in the world is the fault of the US.
As to the issue of domination, why is it that they want to live in western nations, with the personal liberty afforded, yet not extend the same opportunities to their hosts in their host nations or to Christians in their nations of origin? If the Islamists are just misumderstood, why do they have to riot it Paris or Amsterdam? Why don't they just leave, take their biases with them and return to their homeland?
It is sometimes shocking to see how racist, biggoted, narrow minded, and ignorant Americans can be. And many of these hate spewing Islamophobes, that care not for the truth, probably call themsleves Christian. May more Christians speak up against this kind of bigotted hate speech.
Really? Then what was that whole Gulf war, Operation Desert storm all about? What about Afghanistan in the 80's? We've been in the mid east for decades...
V...before you start chastising someone actually think before you type.....Gulf War was because Iraq invaded Kuwait and was about to invade Saudi Arabia.....No invasion of ANY Muslim country by us.....
Afghanistan in the 80's?? Unless we're Russia the there as NO invasion by another country by us....We were "there" to help the country because they were invaded by Russia......We've had INTERESTS in the ME for decades, but what superpower hasn't had interests in other areas of the world....Try again....
And MarineSgt...Really?? Poor Muslims?? Ever think that your interpreter may have had ulterior motives?? You actually blame the West for their hatred?? That's typical radical Muslim thinking...We don't like what you stand for so we'll just blow you up.....
You rail against Christian ideals, yet defend a religion that gasses their own female children BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LEARN! Or even because they want to leave their faces uncovered...If you feel so sorry for the radicals leave the Military, go to Pakistan and learn their ways....
And yes, you are a disgrace to the Marines....And yes V I have done my time so yes that means *I* have fought for MY right to say what I feel......
TIDubai...I consider myself Agnostic and you missed the "RADICAL" part of my comment...Show me a RADICAL Muslim that wouldn't become a martyr for that belief and I'll convert.......
And if you honestly believe that it's just AMERICA that feels that way about RADICAL Muslims then you need to get out more.......(see how I'm putting RADICALS in bold?)
Really? Then what was that whole Gulf war, Operation Desert storm all about? What about Afghanistan in the 80's? We've been in the mid east for decades...
V...before you start chastising someone actually think before you type.....Gulf War was because Iraq invaded Kuwait and was about to invade Saudi Arabia.....No invasion of ANY Muslim country by us..... Afghanistan in the 80's?? Unless we're Russia the there as NO invasion by another country by us....We were "there" to help the country because they were invaded by Russia......We've had INTERESTS in the ME for decades, but what superpower hasn't had interests in other areas of the world....Try again....
Slow down... you're twisting it... MY response was directed at Michael Davenport-630637 who said... "We did not go to Iraq or Afghanistan before 9/11 "...
I was only demonstrating that we did... and it was not about whether we invaded, or protected, or we're temporary allies (as in afghanistan Bin laden was our ally)... I was stating that we did have troops fighting in those countries prior to 9/11.
And yes V I have done my time so yes that means *I* have fought for MY right to say what I feel......
Yes, and on top of that you've also fought for MY right to say what I feel.... so I want to say thank you for your service.
Yet these dogmatic Muslims keep invading and terrorizing our Country. Just say no to Islam and Muslim as we do not want them nor do we need them here. None of them are welcome.
Mo ham mud is a gay rabid dog who prays on women and children. He thinks this makes him a man but it only show what a weak pathetic piece of crap he is.
He deserves what he gets. He wants to profit from notoriety, (since he obviously has no other talent), so he should be prepared to pay the price. Perhaps one day he will grow up and learn to treat people with respect.
According to Holder and the UN-Credentialed this is just another isolated random attack by a loner.....Will these malicious loners be read their Miranda Rights and is there Habeus Corpus denied?
Your freedom of speech is being attacked from more than one quarter folks and you had better wake up.
Give me a break. SUBHUMAN Muslims tried to invade Europe for a thousand years.
To hell with their feelings. When they evolve to a human form, then we can deal with them.
They hold 12 million slaves worldwide. Islam was founded by a guy that married a 7 year old.
They grabbed 95% of the slaves that ended up in the US. Think about it-- Obama is from a Muslim family in Africa. His ancestors could have enslaved his wifes ancestors!
umm...no...these people's ideals and beliefs are outdated. Their time is done. As a global community we can no longer tolreate this insanity that goes along with religious belief. IT"S A F&^%ING CARTOON!!! For all the talk about Islam being this peaceful religion, it seems to breed a lot of homicidal murderous acts!
Islam just like Christianity and Judaism proclaim an all powerful all knowing God who controls every atom in the entire universe. Why would such a God get so upset about a cartoon depiction of his messanger? If he ordained everything, he ordained the cartoon. And let's not talk about the devil. The devil is inconsistent with monotheism. Religion and real estate make people crazy. Unfortunately, we can't live without real estate, but we can live quite nicely without a diety. Muslim, Christians, observant Jews and all other overly exciteable theists should grow up.
There are no excuses for this behavior....to attempt to make one misses the point. The point is that these people want to invade every other land for racial/cultural/religious domination in the same way that Mexicans are protesting illegal immigration laws. It's pretty simple folks...why can't some of you see it?
You are no American Marine, so you must be a Iranian Guard marine. Mooseleems follow no religion, they are part of a cultural movement. Their god is not the God of the Bible. And you are stupid enough to believe their propaganda. You should have the guts this cartoonist has, he hit the nail on the head: moohumid is a canine bitch. God Bless America and the brave opponents of this curse on humanity. And I am a veteran.
Diane-1530584....yes , like all the cartoonists that made quite a good living bashing Bush, like the "artist" that put a Crucifix in a mayonnaise jar of urine. I think it was called "Piss Jesus".......I bet you laughed yourself silly over those...Lots of treating with respect there !!
Marine Sgt. - NO WAY you are really a Marine Sgt. Give me a break. Saying "radical muslim" is redundant. So, you are saying that they are angry because we or non muslims are in their country? If that is true, what the hell have they been fighting each other for centuries for??? Why in fact do they blow each other up? They kill their OWN kind, which is against their own religion, so sir you are full of BS.
Islam, during its 1300 years of power, killed over 230 million people and enslaved a similar number. Islam, everywhere it exists, was established by military invasion and terrorist tactics.
It is time for citizens to gather and kill these muslims who attack our freedoms this way. Make sure they know that if they come out to attack our way of life they will die and they will stop. That is all they will ever listen to.
I used to think islam (I refuse to capitalize it) was a religion like any other. I support gay rights, all the rest of the liberal stuff. But then I read koran, ha'dith and studied its history. Mohammed was a Jim Jones who made it big. He was a psychotic monster, he was not a prophet, and he had nothing to do with god in any way. Mohammed was like a hitler who succeeded. He raped, he tortured, he assassinated, he committed mass murder and he changed his religion to suit his latest whim. It is almost certain that he was poisoned by his inner circle of military men who realized that he was insane, not a prophet.
There is no reasoning with muslims. There is no quarter from them, and there can be no quarter given to them. The only way islam will accept our way is to destroy it utterly. That is the only way. Show it no respect, ever. It does not deserve any respect. It does not respect you, and wants to enslave you, kill you or convert you.
It is long past time to just kill them when they come to protest. That is the only thing they will understand.
The people who follow true muslim practices are not the threat it is the ones who are radical who should be killed. When a bunch of them are standing on a bridge shouting death to America-bomb them. Further I don't believe you are a Sgt. in the Marines but a plant here. I still say become the Marines of yesterday-kill them all and let God sort em out. If America cannot figure out the wheat from the chaff then ban them all until it becomes obvious. As far as censorship goes when we censored things we did not put out contracts on people or chop off their heads. Bush, Cheney, Guiliani and all the others you mentioned did not kill someone who opposed their point of view. They seem to have no trouble when another's religions profit is displayed in a bad manner why are they above all this. Maybe it is their actions that make people scared of their presence and is the reason people don't want them around. So it is the radicals who are giving all muslims a bad name and making their people look like @!$%#. And to the guy who claims to be a Sgt. you should be ashamed of yourself-did you buy a uniform in an Army Navy store and walk around like you just came home. In either case you disgrace all who died for any cause. And why was America the Country in the ME all those years it is because that is what a World leader does.
It also led to numerous death threats against Vilks, who was temporarily moved to a secret location after al-Qaida in Iraq put a $100,000 bounty on his head in September 2007.
These nut jobs just have no sense of humor, no fun..........?
The people who follow true muslim practices are not the threat
No. That is completely wrong. I used to believe that. Then I read koran and studied islam's history. Al Qaeda is the true islam. They are correct. That is all there is to say about it.
Islam is supposed to exist in three domains:
1. The domain of war with those who are not muslim until they are utterly subjugated.
2. The domain of hudna (incorrectly termed truce by us). Hudna means to sue for ceasing of hostilities so that muslims can build up their strength to attack and win. This is what mohammed did.
3. The domain of islam (incorrectly translated as "peace"). Correctly translated, islam means "submission". Within islam, the rule of islam is complete.
That anyone would defend these nuts who attacked an old man over a cartoon is incredible to me. The more reports I read about Muslims, the more loony I think they are. Such actions does not make them worthy of respect.
BS abouttheir feelingof powerlessness, it is just the fact that their religion is NOT a religion of peace, nor do they practice what they preach- read a few cartoons about Israel, and you'll get flashbacks to Southern portrayals of Negroes in the '30s, or Hitlerian Germany's treatment of Jews and Russians.
Regarding Sarge, what he is saying is what the official line is of the military today. It's because for american troops to interact there, they have to think that this is true. If they knew the truth, it wouldn't work.
Fact is, a great many muslims are lousy muslims. Most people are bad at their religion and don't care about a lot of it. But when it comes down to it, the official military position is wrong. I'm sorry to say that.
To hell with these fanatic mama-mud freaks! They have ALWAYS been murderers, rapists and womanizers. If I would have been that professor: I would have acted in self defense and there would have been one less fanatic on this beautiful, peaceful planet.
Are we here to sit around and let them dictate how we should live our lives, and should we keep our mouths shut and not express our opinions? NO!
When the battle begins against these abominations I want to personally be on the front line with the roach spray.
TYLER: don't you dare ban me again for speaking my mind on this site against the fanatic islamic b@stards, or you make yourself to be no better than those freaking violent murderers!!!
I am in no way saying anything against any peaceful religion.
Lars, we got your back here in the U.S.A. Too bad you live in Europa were everyone is a liberal pansy. You could come live in 48 states and not see a muslim for miles and miles. God bless America, except for hater muslims.
TYLER: don't you dare ban me again for speaking my mind on this site against the fanatic islamic b@stards, or you make yourself to be no better than those freaking violent murderers!!!
Marine Sgt, that was a really well-explained paragraph. I thought it was really well put... kudos on being one of the few interested in rational discourse. You summarized a lot of what I was thinking as well.
You talk of the Texas cowboy killing so many muslims, how about Obama, he is doing his best to catch and surpass the Texas cowboy in killing muslims. Seems like you have a double standard going there.
All the logic, sympathy and rationalization doesn't matter. We have here a class of people that chooses to identify itself as a class, by its words, by its clothes, by its attitude. This class consistently claims the right to do violence to those who annoy it. This class actually does violence when it suits itself.
It is time to coerce civilized behavior from this class; else, prosecute, imprison and/or deport those who chose proudly proclaim themselves members of this class.
Those of you who sympathize with the Muslims (Islamist Jihadists) who express a feeling of being downtrodden and subjugated by Western Civilization and Christianity in particular, remember that the Koran is the only religious text that can actually be utilized as both a theological text as well as a military prime. Muslims are compelled to preach the words of Allah and to offer non-converts these choices: conversion, death or monthy payments to be a non-Muslim living in an Islamic Republic.
Before any of you out there post your uneducated opinions please read Arabic translations of the Koran, study the Haddith, read a book by Robert Spencer or visit his site Jihadwatch.com.
Various political and religioos pundits have warned the US, Israel and India, that while these three great democracies take great lengths to protect the rights of their religious minorities (The Muslims) that this same terrorist religions looks and strives to undermine the infrastructure of every great society.
Look over the last thousand years, look at hot areas of the globe, all have a common denominator...Islamic Jihadists. I actually believe we should limit Muslim immigration into this nation, we should use a greater level of scrutiny when allowing any Muslims into sectors of our society that engage in security issues. Before anyone cites the US Constitution, remember that it is a living entity that is allowed to adapt to dire circumstances, Lincoln suppressed the Writ of Habeus Corpus during the Civil War, desperate times, desperate measures...
Anyone find it ironic that when a Christian nut does something goofy we all make sure (as does the media) to identify the idiot as a "Christian" but when a Muslim commits an act of atrocity we make sure to be politically correct and try to separate that Muslim from his mainstream religion, we call them radicals...any real Muslim must engage in Jihad by conscience or by action...
I am happy that this is happening to the infamously neutral Swedes. As bad as the Nazis were, the Muslim extremists are worse. Countries like Switz, France, Norway, etc, who may or may not be critics of the US, at least need to be aware that appeasement has other meanings these days. At the same time, they need to nip in the bud instances described in this article. The "evil" US empire that wants to conquer and colonize the world as they did with Japan, Germany, Iraq, etc, after their victories there, really should be looked upon in a broader perspective. In fact, without the USA countries like Switz, France, etc, who have had the luxury of villifying the usa for so many decades will be consumed by forces beyond their limited imaginations.
No matter how Marine Sgt., V, and the other Islamophiles want to twist reality, people with ten living brain cells will not be fooled.
For Marine Sgt. - The last six times the U.S. military went into combat, the mission involved saving Muslims, usually from other Muslims.
1991 - We liberated Kuwait from the Iraqis. You're welcome, Kuwait.
1992 - We fed the starving Somalis only to be drawn into the vacuum of their endless civil war. Go figure.
1995 - The U.S. along with NATO saved Sarajevo and the Bosnians from a Serbian take over. We should have acted sooner, but Bill Clinton evidently thought the UN could get its act together given three years time.
1999 - Clinton acted faster this time, and a decade later, Kosovo is an independent country.
2001 - We toppled the Taliban in Afghanistan. I'm sure some of the Afghans appreciate that.
2003 - We toppled Saddam and have wasted a trillion dollars babysitting Iraq ever since.
I know, I know. They're upset now, but come back in 500 or 1000 years and some of their descendants will have moved on... :P
I love the comments about we're 'subjugating the muslim world'....really?! Last I checked, they started that first, they tried conquering Europe from roughly 700 to the late 1400s...why doesn't anyone ever bring THAT up? Because they're on the losing end now and we have to feel sorry for them for something THEY started? Hypocrite cowards. They were trying to conquer Europe even long before the Crusades (which they also still like to whine about of course). Grow up and move on! It's as sinister_seska said above "They dish it out but sure can't take it"
Btw, if anyone is doing the 'subjugating', it's them, they impose their customs and expect the countries they move to cater to them....ummm, there's a reason why you moved from your homelands, they sucked...so what makes you think the religious part of that society worked?
If the Muslims could govern themselves - which includes not only their internal structure but also the interaction of their people/institutions with other countries - over the long term, then foreign countries would never enter the picture.
Need I remind many of the so-called Christians ranting and raving against Islam and the practices of some of its followers of Christianity's history? What were the Crusades? The Inquisition? What do Christians continue to do to this very day both in the U.S. and abroad? Even in current times, how many gays, the last great holdout for persecution by Christians (which is why Christians are so hell-bent on making sure no laws are passed to protect gays from discrimination...we're the last minority they're legally allowed to oppress), are murdered by people who are driven to do so by anti-gay Christian rhetoric?
C'mon, folks. There's plenty of mud to be flung. The best way to avoid getting hit it is to avoid religion altogether.
what is done now by the us abroad is not done under the banner of christianity it is done under the banner of intimidation and fascism. Even OBAMA said this is not a christian nation. there are some christians that are anti gay.
but i dont read about 3 or more bombings a day by chistians....i dont hear of filmmakers being slaughtered in the streets by christians....there arent videos on the internet of christians decapitating innocent civilians, there arent christians who force south park to edit their content. every area that has muslims is at conflict. africa, middle east, far east.
how can you even deny this
oh and by the way I am not a christian.....i can see things very clearly on who at this point in history are the greatest threat to humanity.
so how long ago was the crusades? who is the prominent evil religion right now? is there a possibility of obtaining a dirty nuke? I would then conclude that this is a very serious situation.
all religions have blood on their hands...it just so happens right now most the blood is on the muslims.
oh and by their complete silence and lack of trying to stop these "extremists" the rest of the muslim community is just as guilty.
General Pershing was in charge of a U.S. garrison in the Philippines in 1911. It seems his soldiers were subjected to a series of terror attacks by Filipino Muslims. Pershing did not try to put together a "road map." Nor did he set up study groups to find out why the Muslims hated the Americans. Nor did he offer them a series of "good will gestures." Nor did he put up a giant wall to keep them out. Instead, he captured fifty of those Muslim terrorists. He then had them dig their own graves. He then tied all up to posts execution style. He then dipped fifty bullets in pig's blood. You see, Muslims murders may not have a problem with soaking their hands into Jewish blood but NO WAY do they want anything to do with the skin, blood or 'guts' of a pig. Should they be contaminated by any of these pig parts, they will go to Muslim Hell, not Muslim Paradise!
And so, on the count of three, all but one of those Paradise-seeking Islamists were shot dead! Their bodies were them wrapped in the skins of freshly-killed pigs and dropped into the giant hole. Above them were poured the entrails and other porcine remains. You may ask, "Why was one Muslim spared?" The answer is simple. This sole surviving Muslim was released and sent back to his fellow 'mujahedin' to report what he had just witnessed. For the next 42 years there was not a single Muslim attack!
The religion of peace, my ass. They are hurting their own cause. It's okay to depict other religions in a bad light, but oh, no, not the Muslim religion.....Give me a break.
I think the only religion of peace is probably Bhuddism... all of the others, including Islam, and Christianity have far too much blood on their hands to claim such a title.
Bhuddism is a peaceful religion in its ideology, yes. But there have been plenty of wars by Bhuddists. Christianity is also a peaceful religion in its ideology. But like Bhuddists, Christians make war. The thing is that in those religions everyone knows that is not the way it is supposed to be.
Islam was founded in war, spread by war, torture, assassination, rape, mass terror. That is the crucial difference. Islam is supposed to be about war.
@John Toradze : if you should say that about any religion, you should say that about Judaism, which was formed from the principle of taking other people's land through warfare. I have nothing against Jews or Judaism, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. How was Islam founded on war?
Spread by war? Because the Mongols conquered Asia? Did you know that the Mongols were the most religiously tolerant of all, and that they converted to Islam half a century AFTER capturing the continent?
Torture? Assassination? This is so absurd, I encourage you to close the list of "evil" words you are no doubt typing from. If you are thinking torture you are thinking of the Assyrians, in 2000 BCE. 2500 years prior to Islam. I think you have seen too many Hollywood films.
Rape? Since non-marital sex is one of the gravest sins in Islam, leading to instant damnification?
Mass terror? May I ask from where the veracity of this statement is produced? Fox-pedia? It seems like you were thinking of mass destruction and replaced destruction with terror for greater effect.
No other religion that I am currently aware of, actively advocates the killing of people who are not of the religion. I read the Quran cover to cover and started counting the occurences of the phrase "kill infidels where you find them". I lost count at 140. Infidels, by the way, are anyone who is not muslim. I am sick and tired of these so called peaceful people using violence in response to every little alleged slight of their so called religion. If that religion is about peace, how come the average, run of the mill muslim does not put a stop to the 'minority' carrying out violence in the name of allah? All we do is worry about offending them...but they don't give a damn about offending us. Until the so called peace loving muslims actually live up to their claims of abhoring the violence of their fanatical brothers and put a stop to the fanatacism, I don't give a damn about them. Screw them...
I think it's safe to say that all religions have blood on their hands, somewhere. There's no need to pick on just one or two including Muslims or Christians. Frankly I have no use for any of them.
To hell with these fanatic mama-mud freaks! They have ALWAYS been murderers, rapists and womanizers. If I would have been that professor: I would have acted in self defense and there would have been one less fanatic on this beautiful, peaceful planet.
Are we here to sit around and let them dictate how we should live our lives, and should we keep our mouths shut and not express our opinions? NO!
When the battle begins against these abominations I want to personally be on the front line with the roach spray.
TYLER: don't you dare ban me again for speaking my mind on this site against the fanatic islamic b@stards, or you make yourself to be no better than those freaking violent murderers!!!
I am in no way saying anything against any peaceful religion.
I try like hell to not be prejudiced, but Muslims can't even stand each other. They hate and exterminate each other, and in many countries treat their women like dogs or worse.
My daughter took a college course to try to understand them and learn acceptance. She developed an intolerance worse than before she took the course. The instructor, a female Muslim, apparently couldn't hide the fact that she was as intolerant towards non-Muslims as they come.
I wish the ones who are so full of hate would just kill each other off quickly and get it over with and leave the rest of us in peace. I'm sure their Hell will be untouchable virgins drawing funny pics of Mohammed all over the place, and God/Mohammed will have the last laugh.
As a catholic, I tend to critisize the past of my own religion more than i do any others for it is through our critisisms that we remain moderated. The fact that no one in the world is alowed to critisize the muslim religion is the biggest problem they have and as long as that stands their extremests will run rampant over their world just as the catholic church did in its dark days.
the question of any religion being right or wrong is something that cannot be answered in human terms, but i do wish all those that do not believe in any god would respect my faith as i respect them, critisize when it is needed, but slander leads nowhere you want to go.
I have an idea that should take care of at least most of the problem. We have the technology to reproduce pictures of Hillary Clinton naked on most of their TV's, paper currency, billboards and literally saturate those areas known to be infected by Radical Muslims with naked pictures of Hillary Clinton.
If I understand the Muslim religion correctly (and I freely admit I am no expert), then every Muslim man seeing the naked picture of Hillary would have to kill himself. Anyone choosing not to honor their religion would probably go blind from seeing Hillarynaked anyway and thereby rendered ineffective as a terrorists. This would at the very least put a good dent in the terrorist threat from Radial Muslims terrorists. Who knows the Arabs might even agree to reduce to price of oil from just the threat of dropping a few picts on them as well.
Sorry Ernie, but they have to see a WOMAN naked. Naked Hillary may just confuse them. But maybe they will not be able to procreate ever again because of that image burned in their tiny little minds and will pop up every time they try.
My daughter took a college course to try to understand them and learn acceptance. She developed an intolerance worse than before she took the course. The instructor, a female Muslim, apparently couldn't hide the fact that she was as intolerant towards non-Muslims as they come.
Hiring a closed minded bigot doesn't sound like a good approach to teaching religious tolerance.
Out of curiosity, which university did this happen at? UC Berkeley? :P
The irony is that Muslim women are prohibited from teaching at the university level in all but a handful of Muslim countries.
Baloney. Maybe if you talk to Muslims from that area, but their misguided and misinterpreted religious dictates based on the Koran speaks differently worldwide. It's a religious scourge.
Mo ham mud is a gay rabid dog who prays on women and children. He thinks this makes him a man but it only show what a weak pathetic piece of crap he is.
Marine Sgt. - the difference is "we" go to those countries and fight against the militants and try not to have civilian casualties. "They" come to the US and strive to kill innocent people. Big difference.
Ever heard of the KKK? Their membership is an exponential value of the total known amount of Muslim Terrorists. One out of every three humans is Muslim. Islam is the 2nd largest religion to Christianity, and it is rapidly gaining. Do you honestly think that 2 billion people are terrorists, because if they are the world would be screwed. I encourage you to read this http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-20539.html
I said Almost All,I did not go to the site u mention because i support our military and will support anything they have to do to stop the terrorist.I choose to be as closed minded as they are,if they start to show respect for human life then i will show respect back.Until then i will show them the same respect as they show us!enough said.
I think all religions are pretty cartoonish... Talking snakes pushing forbidden apples that get you kicked out of paradise? There are so many more of examples but, you get the idea...
No - islam actually is that crazy. The prophet was like jim jones down in Guyana. He heard voices, he tortured people, he raped captives, he enslaved, he assassinated his critics, and on and on.
If you study koran and ha'dith and muslim history you will realize that Al Qaeda is right.
What we call "radical islam" is the true islam. That's the problem. Everyone else is a bad muslim. There's lots of them, but lets not kid ourselves.
I don't belong to any mosque, but serving with Iraqi soldiers and asking them and our interpreters about what motivates Muslim extremists has enlightened me. Moreover, ADHERENTS OF OTHER RELIGIONS HAVE REACTED VIOLENTLY TOO AND TRIED TO SUPPRESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
The various forms of religious-based, intimidation-driven censorship and taboo ideas in the U.S. — what people claim are non-existent except when it involves Muslims — are too numerous to chronicle. One has to be deeply ignorant, deeply dishonest or consumed with petulant self-victimization and anti-Muslim bigotry to pretend they don’t exist. I opt (primarily) for the latter explanation in most anti-muslim's case.
I have no idea what Janet Jackson's breast has to do with your ranting bull$%$@ defending Muslim radicals against the US and the free societies of Europe.
I will not be far or out of line saying that you may be the next Maj. Hassan massacring our soldiers.
For the safety and security of our citizens, soldiers and our nation, you should be monitored by the authorities.
All the signs are right there in your anti American rantings for everyone to read - which are quite similar to what that terrorist bastard said before Ft. Hood shooting.
I have no idea what Janet Jackson's breast has to do with your ranting bull$%$@ defending Muslim radicals against the US and the free societies of Europe.
He was trying to educate you about censorship in America... it was your immature mind that focused on the breast and ignored the rest.
I will not be far or out of line saying that you may be the next Maj. Hassan massacring our soldiers.
Way out of line actually.
For the safety and security of our citizens, soldiers and our nation, you should be monitored by the authorities.
From what I'm gathering from your rants, I think for the safety of future generations you should refrain from reproducing.
All the signs are right there in your anti American rantings for everyone to read - which are quite similar to what that terrorist bastard said before Ft. Hood shooting.
Please illuminate us oh great patriot and protector of the bald eagle... please quote where he said something that was anti-American... Questioning policies of our government and institutions is EXTREMELY American... and if you had ever read the Declaration of Independance you would know that it is your DUTY as an American citizen to do so.
Your enlightened alright. Weak minded jackasses like you undermine any effective counter measure to these pigs! I pray you have left the service (if indeed you were ever in) and quit soiling the uniform. Traitor!
Hey Mike D. then why are people who speak your brand of free speech only okay...Hmmm? When ever I hear people question Obama policies they are put down. I question Obama's policies quite regularly so I giess that makes me a patriot.
As for the intolerant protesters that threatened the cartoonist they should all be sprayed with pork fat and be sent to their virgins.
Sarge..Though I was brought up in a Christian home, I am also a former atheist and agnostic. My life was a wreck and I was unaware of it. I was so unhappy despite some love and success in life. When I looked inside myself I saw darkness. In desperation, I prayed to God. Like meditation, it took me to a certain calm place inside which gave me some peace. Then I forgot about it cause I was feeling better. Long story short, I eventually saw that there was a tie in between spirituality and depression remission. I don't attend church, never been a joiner of groups. But, with God I have progressed to become medication/drug/tobacco/alcohol independent. I can now have relationships that aren't all about sex. God was inside of me all along but I was too horny, stoned, proud, egotistical and stubborn to accept the reality of my human weaknesses and failings. God raises a lot of people like me, and worse, up from a basically wasted existence. We need more God.
I agree with you Sgt, and those who say we were not there before 9/11 have apparently forgotten Desert Storm and our continual involvement with Israel and the fact we pay Egypt tons of money each year so they will not attack them. :)
As for this artist who got attacked, I do not personally think this should not have happened to him even with his creation of the cartoon depicting the prophet Muhammad. I think this sort of lashing out is because, as you say, they feel as a whole targeted by the West and this is leading to such outbursts.
I think your opinions hold validity since you are over there and get a firsthand opportunity to discuss such topics with them to understand the reasoning behind such things.
It is a pity to see so many problems and terrible acts being done just behind the guise of religion. Religion is being used to carry out people's own will and ambitions, which is very contrary to what religion preaches in its purest form, without people meddling with it and creating various interpretations.
I am glad that while over there you are trying to understand their culture and their way of thinking because just because a country thinks and lives differently from the West does not make them "backwards" or "wrong," such thoughts are ethnocentric. I hope you leave a good impression about the West while over there because the more we work to break down misconceptions about each other's countries, the more this ignorance driven hate will decline. We are more alike than we are different. We all strive for the same things in life: a family, a good job, a home etc. and the more we allow each other to see that, the more we can move on from such acts of stupidity and division.
Have a good one and I am proud you are over there and I wish there were more sane people out there like you. You are a true American, breaking down the divides. :)
well i have been over there and I dont hold the same opinion as him. So the Dutch and Swedes are now America? Remember the dutch artist who was killed in the streets for the documentary he filmed?
please get off the america israel kick....this guy is a swede....all the non muslims in indonesia and elsewhere who are attacked are not americans and israelis.
I do not doubt there are millions of nuts in all religions for that matter. :)
What does it matter if this man is a Swede? I was speaking in general, and yes those acts you mention (the dutch artist, Christians getting targeted in Indonesia) are inexcusable. They reflect how people get so caught up in their differences and view the world through "us" vs "them" glasses.
As for America & Israel I was talking about American involvement in the Middle East, I was not bringing up the Zionist movement. ^^
Yes, James these sorts of acts described in the article and what you described in your message cannot be justified in any way, shape, or form even if you try to find random quotes of scripture to attach to them. This crap really just needs to end already, even though it probably never will.
the entire "america is the blame for muslims lashing out" logic is faulty as the swedes and dutch have been attacked, not americans. islam is the only religon that gets a free pass on their attackes on people.
maureen - Your problem is that everytime a Muslim terrorist kills somebody, you truy to find a connection with.......Israel. That is crap that comes out of a loony mind.
This is the face of modern Islam. This is the behavior of modern Islam in any country they inhabit. Get used to it. It's not going to change until "host" countries stop making excuses and start pushing back.
No other religion does this so consistently and violently. Any commenters who insist otherwise, are simply deluded or trolls.
Sorry no religion is peace and truth, Only Truth is Truth and only Truth will bring Peace if any religion had all truth they wouldn't need to kill those that didn't believe their dogma that they think was Truth.
You know your religion stinks when you have to use force to get people to believe in it. Muslims and Christians - two peas in a pod. Maybe that's why they hate each other so much.
Christianity in this century does not teach violence. Jesus speaks of love for your fellow man. The Muslim religious schools around the world teach that it is a good Muslim's duty to convert the entire world to Islam or to kill you as an infidel. It does not get much more black and white than that. Islam needs to move from the 12th century into the 21st century. Islam is a religion of peace if you are a man and a believer - leaving out most of the rest of the world such as women and children.
Actually, the majority of Christians and Muslims (who account for 1/3 of the worlds population each) do not hate each other. They often do not have contact with each other. Most muslims struggle for survival in poverty. Its a few thousand of each religion who hate everyone else's guts. Look at the KKK
Good point..can anyone even remember the name of the Ft Hood shooter, or the underwear bomber, or the shoe bomber or any of the 911 hijackers????
For that matter ANY of the world trade truck bombers from the first attempt?????
Funny isnt it that they keep Mcvieghs name alive, and Lee Oswald, or even Border Agent Ramos or Campeon but the muslim criminals fade quickly.
Hmmmnnnn.... I think it might be that it's just easier to remember names that we recognize as "normal" to our own culture... Muslim names tend to sound like they have too many consonants and not enough vowels to our ears, and are just plain hard to pronounce, let alone remember.... unless they're pounded into your head like Saddam Hussein, or Osama Bin Laden....
#1 - You did make a racist comment... a racist is by definition ignorant... I didn't so much call you a "name", as I did thank you for announcing your narrow minded, outdated mentality... I think your proper response should have been... "your welcome".... just common courtesy.
#2 - I am not "left", nor am I a democrat... uh-oh... does that turn your world upside down now? I'm not black either... Hmmmnn.... there must be some pre-programmed hateful ideology you can paint me into a corner with.... nope not gay either, sorry.... AH! Got it... I'm a lifelong Yankee fan... there you go, let your hate flow man...
Lets just keep apologizing for who we are while the invasion continues,by the way I never hear muslims,mexicans or anyone else say no to our money and resources.
The world would be better off if all people abandoned doctrinaire religious ideology. None of it is worth the violence it begets. Muslims need to realize that people have a right to mock their religion, but so do Christians. We have our own home grown Christian fanatics, that is true, but Muslim excesses are not justified by excesses of other religions.
By all means, Sam. Let's all abandon religious ideology. Just the way Soviet Russia did when Stalin and the Communists ruled throughout the thirties and into the 80's and Godlessness as part of their rule. Now, that indeed was a violence-free, pleasant place to live, eh?
A whole crowd of muslims.....good place for a car bomb...kind of a taste of there own medicine huh. But I really cant blame them for being angry at this guy for drawing mohammed as a dog...Its damn insulting...I like dogs. Whats he got against poor dogs to depict them as mohammed???
The Swedes should round up these Muslim extremists and deport them to whatever God-forsaken desert they came from. We should immediately execute Jihad Jane as an example to the rest of the Muslim world of what happens to Muslim extremists in the US. Of course, the Swedes are wimpy Socialists, so they will do nothing, and unfortunately, the US is now run by wimpy Socialists so we also will do nothing.
Absent the intellectual acumen to discern the difference between democratic socialism, communism, and rheumatism, is it any wonder the political elite of the neoconservative movement depend upon just such an intellectual vacuum in their manipulation of their so-called "base" as exemplified in the radical Christian Right and exemplified in such inane comments as above.
Spoken like a true Stalinist, or Moaist, or Pol Pot, or Hitler, or Gobels, or etc., .... Hateful demogogues and ditto heads are a dime a dozen. And they are all spewing the same hateful tune.
Come to think of it, "do away with all [insert your favorite group to hate]" was Hitler's final solution for the Jews. Behold America! The future brown shirts of American Fascism. All it will take is for the demogogues who know how to dress these kind of hateful intentions up in pretty sounding rhetoric and how to maniputate the emotions of the mindless minions that give expression to them to sweep into polticial power, and indeed, we may all oneday be witness to the rounding up of Muslims for imprisonment or worse.
Would you advocate stripping citizen ship and deporting for just those who have been convicted or for anyone who was Muslim convicted or not? Just wondering.
I think the reason your are unemployed might have something to do with your own behavior ;-) Just in case your unemployed because of the recent financial meltdown, you might try hard to figure out who really is responsible and direct some of that anger (constructively) in that direction.
We need to understand the mindset to fix the problem. Wiping them out is not an option (although it seems that many on here would welcome that). The basic tenants of Islam are no more violent than Christianity's and most Muslims don't want us dead - regardless of what you read from the uneducated on the blogs.
After all the chatter about Muslims, I believe we understand their mindset. If you are a women and tried walking around in a Muslim country without a headscarf you understand all you need to. The folks don't politely tell you, they threaten you with physical violence.
These are not well educated folks.. their lives revolve around their religion. Their religion is violent, as it conquered half the know world when it appeared. Not quite the same as Christian. Big difference between Muslim and Christian.. The Muslims never went through a reformantion process. Christians had Martin Luther, Henry the eigth, etc. No parallel in Muslim religion. They are still following the same tenents as they had 1400 years ago.
Most of these folks hate the jews because the Jews grew up in the same neighborhood, but became successful without any oil or religious leader (like a mullah or something). Had to be the West that made the Jews successful... couldn't be that Islam is a problem that won't work in a modern world.
Jcook.......you pretty much got it nailed except for one item.
The muslims hate the Jews because when muhammad was just trying to get started, he went to some of the local jews in Mecca and told him he was a prophet. They laughed their collective arses off and told him he was a joke.....but never a prophet. THEY Knew what a prophet was...Isaih, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc...those were prophets. Mohammad? Not a chance.
Needless to say, when he finally convinced a few of the less intelligent locals and then he raised an small army, he slaughtered all the local jews...and thus it has been ever since by his command...kill all jews.
I don't think you do, judging by the amount of b.s. you wrote.
I've lived in an Arab Muslim country. They aren't all extremists and therefore newsworthy. In some Muslim countries, women dress as they please, attend university, hold jobs, choose their own spouse ... oh wait, that was Iraq before we attacked it.
Well, there are other Muslim countries like Iraq used to be, and without Saddam and his pig boys, too. Although Iraq under Saddam was unquestionably a thousand times better than Iraq under the U.S.
That was also Tehran Iran prior to Jimmy Carter, it was a western city with men in business suits and women in wetsern clothing and driving cars and working in offices. It was a very upscale and productive city and the entire country was booming in oil, business and technology. Then came the mullahs and the revolutionaries and drove it back into the dark ages which is the root of their uprisinf and dissent now. Their bad luck is when it first started we had a gutless president who refused to help them against the wacko's, and now history is again repeating itself. The people of Iran want to restore their freedom and liberty and we again have a gutless president in office. They really should work on their timing.....
oh boy; That is quite fitting of the so-called prophet Mohammad. He was a fake. It is easy to prophesies things that have already happened or that you plan on doing.
I prophesies that I am going to get a beer! Shazaam I have a beer in my hands right now so, I must be a prophet. Better yet I prophesies that the Islamic fanatics will fly planes into buildings on 9/11/2001. It happened so I must really be a great prophet!!!
People need to understand that this anger stems not from Muslim anger at just depicting Prophet Muhammad, but also because of the feeling of powerlessness due to constant Non-muslim invasion of muslim lands like in Iraq, Afghanistan, West Bank of Palestine, etc. They feel from my conversations with them, that we are not just trying to dominate them politically but also religiously and impose our will on them.
Spoken like a typical leftist liberal Muslim apologist. These poor radical Muslims who test the limits of freedom in all western societies are "powerless" due to OUR invasion ?.
You have dishonored yourself, if you are in fact a Marine sgt. These scumbags have been attacking people in Europe for the past 40 years. We did not go to Iraq or Afghanistan before 9/11 - right or wrong - your intent on drawing a connection here is absolutely dishonest.
I wonder, with your fervent defense of these Muslim radicals, which mosque do YOU belong to.
I feel so sorry for the poor muslims, No not really I despise Muslims and as soon as we realize no Christian will be safe while Muslims live the better off we will be.
I don't belong to any mosque, but serving with Iraqi soldiers and asking them and our interpreters about what motivates Muslim extremists has enlightened me. Moreover, ADHERENTS OF OTHER RELIGIONS HAVE REACTED VIOLENTLY TOO AND TRIED TO SUPPRESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
The various forms of religious-based, intimidation-driven censorship and taboo ideas in the U.S. — what people claim are non-existent except when it involves Muslims — are too numerous to chronicle. One has to be deeply ignorant, deeply dishonest or consumed with petulant self-victimization and anti-Muslim bigotry to pretend they don’t exist. I opt (primarily) for the latter explanation in most anti-muslim's case.
As Balloon-Juice’s DougJ notes, everyone from Phil Donahue and Ashliegh Banfield to Bill Maher and Sinead O’Connor can tell you about that first-hand. As can the cable television news reporters who were banned by their corporate executives from running stories that reflected negatively on Bush and the war. When he was Mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani was fixated on using the power of his office to censor art that offended his Catholic sensibilities. The Bush administration banned mainstream Muslim scholars even from entering the U.S. to teach. The Dixie Chicks were deluged with death threats for daring to criticize the Leader, forcing them to apologize out of fear for their lives. Campaigns to deny tenure to academicians, or appointments to politicial officials, who deviate from Israel orthodoxy are common and effective. Responding to religious outrage, a Congressional investigation was formally launched and huge fines issued all because Janet Jackson’s breast was displayed for a couple of seconds on television.
All that’s to say nothing of the endless examples of religious-motivated violence by Christian and Jewish extremists designed to intimidate and suppress ideas offensive to their religious dogma (I’m also pretty sure the people doing this and this are not Muslim). And, contrary to Douthat’s misleading suggestion, hate speech laws have been used for censorious purposes far beyond punishing speech offensive to Muslims — including, for instance, by Christian groups invoking such laws to demand the banning of plays they dislike
I have no idea what Janet Jackson's breast has to do with your ranting bull$%$@ defending Muslim radicals against the US and the free societies of Europe.
I will not be far or out of line saying that you may be the next Maj. Hassan massacring our soldiers.
For the safety and security of our citizens, soldiers and our nation, you should be monitored by the authorities.
All the signs are right there in your anti American rantings for everyone to read - which are quite similar to what that terrorist bastard said before Ft. Hood shooting.
Spoken like a typical righty tighty whitey spin doctor... Why is it that when anyone tries to look passed the surface of something, to try to understand an issue, the rightwingers start slapping soundbite labels like "apologists" that don't even apply? Marine Sgt made no apology, (Neither did Obama for that matter, but lets not re-open that debacle of a debate). Even if you were of the mentality that there is no hope of EVER resolving any issues with the radical muslims, any miltary strategist or historian could tell you that you should KNOW YOUR ENEMY... and you're point of view suggests that you think you know all there is to know, Glenn Beck has given you the cliff notes, and anyone illuminating anything new is a traitor.... Sigh....
I hope you have done some time in the armed forces if you are going to call his honor into question.... any and every member of military deserves respect and gratitude.
Really? Then what was that whole Gulf war, Operation Desert storm all about? What about Afghanistan in the 80's? We've been in the mid east for decades...
How can "right" be dishonest?
Ah... there it is... how very FOXian of you to question where his loyalties lie... It's not like he wasn't facing nightmares of life and death, and seeing friends die left and right while serving in Iraq... to protect people like me and YOU.
I love dogs. I guess that they don't. They can get the hell out.
He was trying to educate you about censorship in America... it was your immature mind that focused on the breast and ignored the rest.
Way out of line actually.
From what I'm gathering from your rants, I think for the safety of future generations you should refrain from reproducing.
Please illuminate us oh great patriot and protector of the bald eagle... please quote where he said something that was anti-American... Questioning policies of our government and institutions is EXTREMELY American... and if you had ever read the Declaration of Independance you would know that it is your DUTY as an American citizen to do so.
"Free speech" is only free as long as it isn't limited. Otherwise, it would be called..."Limited Speech". Perhaps we should suspend our rights as Americans because god forbid...(sorry...don't want to offend any Muslims)...Allah forbid...we offend any Muslims.
Does this mean I can threaten the life of Muslims that chant "Death to America"? Quite honestly that favorite quote of theirs...that offends me.
when a western goes to an arab muslim country , it is DEMANDED that they abide by local rules and customs , when "they" go elsewhere , they demand to change their host country to their standards . i call this "hypocrits"
We are destroying our society. Allowing the Muslims in at all. We need to deport all of the non citizen Muslims and check the naturalized ones. One Tim McVeigh and hundreds of Muslim extremists. Sure they are some good ones. How many true Americans must die so they can stay here. They come here and try to kill us.
Then you end up with a situation like during WW2 when we put Japanese Americans in concentration camps... it seemed like the right thing to do at the time, but it wasn't.
Not all muslims think the way these violent idiots do. I was just reading in the paper today, about a man who was here in NY on the morning of 9/11 and was stranded with his daughter in Manhattan, and an off duty cab driver picked them up, took them home (way out of his way) and refused to charge them. He was Pakistani, his last name was Mohammed.
Millions of Muslims have died because of Christians. That Texas Christian cowboy Bush being one of the main perpetrators. Quite possibly the biggest buffoon of a President... Ever.
Some people are just not able to accept free expression due to the intolerance of their religion. Since they are not ready for the gift of freedom (of speech) and cannot accept a separation of church and state, Sweden should deport said troublemakers back to their intolerant theocracy/country of origin. P.S.: Swedish bands RULE!
I've long said that religious people are just a stone's throw from being poop-flinging chimps, and this is yet another piece of evidence to support my claim.
Dog... pedophile... if the shoe fits!
Michael Davenport said:
We have been in the Middle East WAY before 9/11. In 1953 the US toppled the democratic government of Iran and installed a dictator. Guess what? The Iranians didn't like that too much.
We have had bases in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and Oman... supported by the dictator governments of those countries which are propped up by the US, but the majority of the population of those countries do not like the US being there.
Seriously, these Muslims have to take a really big chill pill! they're out of control, when they start messing with south-park, that's when they lost my support!! Go get them Cheney!!
Poor little Muslims are so misunderstood. Carbombings, plane bombings, plane hijackings, dirty bombs, etc. Why would anyone depict them as dogs? Dogs are kind and loveable. I would thing depicting them as snakes or any other cold blooded reptile would be more appropriate
L.J Rhodes
I liked your comment, it's pretty close
You're all wasting time here ...he's no Marine ....any life srge I've ever heard or seen write anything of consequence DOES not express themselves in such a manner... hes a plant .... a "pfisher", either looking for radical hate statements or trying to evoke interest through the same.... not even an honourable muslim would stoop to "baiting" a response of religious intent and hatred...
Sarge:
You don't sound like any Marines that I served with. In fact, your writing style is suspect. And your argument is similar to most of the dead heads that try to sell the crap that everying in the world is the fault of the US.
As to the issue of domination, why is it that they want to live in western nations, with the personal liberty afforded, yet not extend the same opportunities to their hosts in their host nations or to Christians in their nations of origin? If the Islamists are just misumderstood, why do they have to riot it Paris or Amsterdam? Why don't they just leave, take their biases with them and return to their homeland?
It is sometimes shocking to see how racist, biggoted, narrow minded, and ignorant Americans can be. And many of these hate spewing Islamophobes, that care not for the truth, probably call themsleves Christian. May more Christians speak up against this kind of bigotted hate speech.
V...before you start chastising someone actually think before you type.....Gulf War was because Iraq invaded Kuwait and was about to invade Saudi Arabia.....No invasion of ANY Muslim country by us.....
Afghanistan in the 80's?? Unless we're Russia the there as NO invasion by another country by us....We were "there" to help the country because they were invaded by Russia......We've had INTERESTS in the ME for decades, but what superpower hasn't had interests in other areas of the world....Try again....
And MarineSgt...Really?? Poor Muslims?? Ever think that your interpreter may have had ulterior motives?? You actually blame the West for their hatred?? That's typical radical Muslim thinking...We don't like what you stand for so we'll just blow you up.....
You rail against Christian ideals, yet defend a religion that gasses their own female children BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LEARN! Or even because they want to leave their faces uncovered...If you feel so sorry for the radicals leave the Military, go to Pakistan and learn their ways....
And yes, you are a disgrace to the Marines....And yes V I have done my time so yes that means *I* have fought for MY right to say what I feel......
"That's typical radical Muslim thinking...We don't like what you stand for so we'll just blow you up....."
That seems to be America's attitude as well. Christians are a lot like Muslims it seems.
TIDubai...I consider myself Agnostic and you missed the "RADICAL" part of my comment...Show me a RADICAL Muslim that wouldn't become a martyr for that belief and I'll convert.......
And if you honestly believe that it's just AMERICA that feels that way about RADICAL Muslims then you need to get out more.......(see how I'm putting RADICALS in bold?)
This should tell everyone something about our Muslim brothers and sisters.THEY CAN"T TAKE A JOKE. LMAO
Slow down... you're twisting it... MY response was directed at Michael Davenport-630637 who said... "We did not go to Iraq or Afghanistan before 9/11 "...
I was only demonstrating that we did... and it was not about whether we invaded, or protected, or we're temporary allies (as in afghanistan Bin laden was our ally)... I was stating that we did have troops fighting in those countries prior to 9/11.
Yes, and on top of that you've also fought for MY right to say what I feel.... so I want to say thank you for your service.
Another act of "Terrorism", for someone who has the Freedom of Speech.
Anniihate all of these killers. They all need to be extinquished.
Yet these dogmatic Muslims keep invading and terrorizing our Country. Just say no to Islam and Muslim as we do not want them nor do we need them here. None of them are welcome.
Mo ham mud is a gay rabid dog who prays on women and children. He thinks this makes him a man but it only show what a weak pathetic piece of crap he is.
He deserves what he gets. He wants to profit from notoriety, (since he obviously has no other talent), so he should be prepared to pay the price. Perhaps one day he will grow up and learn to treat people with respect.
According to Holder and the UN-Credentialed this is just another isolated random attack by a loner.....Will these malicious loners be read their Miranda Rights and is there Habeus Corpus denied?
Your freedom of speech is being attacked from more than one quarter folks and you had better wake up.
Give me a break. SUBHUMAN Muslims tried to invade Europe for a thousand years.
To hell with their feelings. When they evolve to a human form, then we can deal with them.
They hold 12 million slaves worldwide. Islam was founded by a guy that married a 7 year old.
They grabbed 95% of the slaves that ended up in the US. Think about it-- Obama is from a Muslim family in Africa. His ancestors could have enslaved his wifes ancestors!
How pathetic to attack an old man these losers are just that LOSERS.
umm...no...these people's ideals and beliefs are outdated. Their time is done. As a global community we can no longer tolreate this insanity that goes along with religious belief. IT"S A F&^%ING CARTOON!!! For all the talk about Islam being this peaceful religion, it seems to breed a lot of homicidal murderous acts!
Islam just like Christianity and Judaism proclaim an all powerful all knowing God who controls every atom in the entire universe. Why would such a God get so upset about a cartoon depiction of his messanger? If he ordained everything, he ordained the cartoon. And let's not talk about the devil. The devil is inconsistent with monotheism. Religion and real estate make people crazy. Unfortunately, we can't live without real estate, but we can live quite nicely without a diety. Muslim, Christians, observant Jews and all other overly exciteable theists should grow up.
There are no excuses for this behavior....to attempt to make one misses the point. The point is that these people want to invade every other land for racial/cultural/religious domination in the same way that Mexicans are protesting illegal immigration laws. It's pretty simple folks...why can't some of you see it?
You are no American Marine, so you must be a Iranian Guard marine. Mooseleems follow no religion, they are part of a cultural movement. Their god is not the God of the Bible. And you are stupid enough to believe their propaganda. You should have the guts this cartoonist has, he hit the nail on the head: moohumid is a canine bitch. God Bless America and the brave opponents of this curse on humanity. And I am a veteran.
Diane-1530584....yes , like all the cartoonists that made quite a good living bashing Bush, like the "artist" that put a Crucifix in a mayonnaise jar of urine. I think it was called "Piss Jesus".......I bet you laughed yourself silly over those...Lots of treating with respect there !!
Marine Sgt. - NO WAY you are really a Marine Sgt. Give me a break. Saying "radical muslim" is redundant. So, you are saying that they are angry because we or non muslims are in their country? If that is true, what the hell have they been fighting each other for centuries for??? Why in fact do they blow each other up? They kill their OWN kind, which is against their own religion, so sir you are full of BS.
Islam, during its 1300 years of power, killed over 230 million people and enslaved a similar number. Islam, everywhere it exists, was established by military invasion and terrorist tactics.
It is time for citizens to gather and kill these muslims who attack our freedoms this way. Make sure they know that if they come out to attack our way of life they will die and they will stop. That is all they will ever listen to.
I used to think islam (I refuse to capitalize it) was a religion like any other. I support gay rights, all the rest of the liberal stuff. But then I read koran, ha'dith and studied its history. Mohammed was a Jim Jones who made it big. He was a psychotic monster, he was not a prophet, and he had nothing to do with god in any way. Mohammed was like a hitler who succeeded. He raped, he tortured, he assassinated, he committed mass murder and he changed his religion to suit his latest whim. It is almost certain that he was poisoned by his inner circle of military men who realized that he was insane, not a prophet.
There is no reasoning with muslims. There is no quarter from them, and there can be no quarter given to them. The only way islam will accept our way is to destroy it utterly. That is the only way. Show it no respect, ever. It does not deserve any respect. It does not respect you, and wants to enslave you, kill you or convert you.
It is long past time to just kill them when they come to protest. That is the only thing they will understand.
The people who follow true muslim practices are not the threat it is the ones who are radical who should be killed. When a bunch of them are standing on a bridge shouting death to America-bomb them. Further I don't believe you are a Sgt. in the Marines but a plant here. I still say become the Marines of yesterday-kill them all and let God sort em out. If America cannot figure out the wheat from the chaff then ban them all until it becomes obvious. As far as censorship goes when we censored things we did not put out contracts on people or chop off their heads. Bush, Cheney, Guiliani and all the others you mentioned did not kill someone who opposed their point of view. They seem to have no trouble when another's religions profit is displayed in a bad manner why are they above all this. Maybe it is their actions that make people scared of their presence and is the reason people don't want them around. So it is the radicals who are giving all muslims a bad name and making their people look like @!$%#. And to the guy who claims to be a Sgt. you should be ashamed of yourself-did you buy a uniform in an Army Navy store and walk around like you just came home. In either case you disgrace all who died for any cause. And why was America the Country in the ME all those years it is because that is what a World leader does.
Give them what they want.........martyrdom.
These nut jobs just have no sense of humor, no fun..........?
No. That is completely wrong. I used to believe that. Then I read koran and studied islam's history. Al Qaeda is the true islam. They are correct. That is all there is to say about it.
Islam is supposed to exist in three domains:
1. The domain of war with those who are not muslim until they are utterly subjugated.
2. The domain of hudna (incorrectly termed truce by us). Hudna means to sue for ceasing of hostilities so that muslims can build up their strength to attack and win. This is what mohammed did.
3. The domain of islam (incorrectly translated as "peace"). Correctly translated, islam means "submission". Within islam, the rule of islam is complete.
I guess the muslims wan't muhammad whatever, to be a symbal of violance. Thats really sad. Glad Im not simple minded like them!
That anyone would defend these nuts who attacked an old man over a cartoon is incredible to me. The more reports I read about Muslims, the more loony I think they are. Such actions does not make them worthy of respect.
BS abouttheir feelingof powerlessness, it is just the fact that their religion is NOT a religion of peace, nor do they practice what they preach- read a few cartoons about Israel, and you'll get flashbacks to Southern portrayals of Negroes in the '30s, or Hitlerian Germany's treatment of Jews and Russians.
Regarding Sarge, what he is saying is what the official line is of the military today. It's because for american troops to interact there, they have to think that this is true. If they knew the truth, it wouldn't work.
Fact is, a great many muslims are lousy muslims. Most people are bad at their religion and don't care about a lot of it. But when it comes down to it, the official military position is wrong. I'm sorry to say that.
To hell with these fanatic mama-mud freaks! They have ALWAYS been murderers, rapists and womanizers. If I would have been that professor: I would have acted in self defense and there would have been one less fanatic on this beautiful, peaceful planet.
Are we here to sit around and let them dictate how we should live our lives, and should we keep our mouths shut and not express our opinions? NO!
When the battle begins against these abominations I want to personally be on the front line with the roach spray.
TYLER: don't you dare ban me again for speaking my mind on this site against the fanatic islamic b@stards, or you make yourself to be no better than those freaking violent murderers!!!
I am in no way saying anything against any peaceful religion.
Lars, we got your back here in the U.S.A. Too bad you live in Europa were everyone is a liberal pansy. You could come live in 48 states and not see a muslim for miles and miles. God bless America, except for hater muslims.
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look I just drew Mohammad smiling. I hope I offended a muslim.
Dare you to come get me.
To Marine Sgt are you a former Marine or an ex Marine? Do you even know the diff?
Jackhole
1, restored, some of the others, not so much.
Yes you would be, Michael Davenport-630637. Very first rule:
You're suspended for a month for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Second suspension in a month.
Dr Mike-, try not to smear everyone who follows a religion, and I won't have to.
Marine Sgt, that was a really well-explained paragraph. I thought it was really well put... kudos on being one of the few interested in rational discourse. You summarized a lot of what I was thinking as well.
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You talk of the Texas cowboy killing so many muslims, how about Obama, he is doing his best to catch and surpass the Texas cowboy in killing muslims. Seems like you have a double standard going there.
All the logic, sympathy and rationalization doesn't matter. We have here a class of people that chooses to identify itself as a class, by its words, by its clothes, by its attitude. This class consistently claims the right to do violence to those who annoy it. This class actually does violence when it suits itself.
It is time to coerce civilized behavior from this class; else, prosecute, imprison and/or deport those who chose proudly proclaim themselves members of this class.
Typical muslims. They dish it out but sure can't take it.
Those of you who sympathize with the Muslims (Islamist Jihadists) who express a feeling of being downtrodden and subjugated by Western Civilization and Christianity in particular, remember that the Koran is the only religious text that can actually be utilized as both a theological text as well as a military prime. Muslims are compelled to preach the words of Allah and to offer non-converts these choices: conversion, death or monthy payments to be a non-Muslim living in an Islamic Republic.
Before any of you out there post your uneducated opinions please read Arabic translations of the Koran, study the Haddith, read a book by Robert Spencer or visit his site Jihadwatch.com.
Various political and religioos pundits have warned the US, Israel and India, that while these three great democracies take great lengths to protect the rights of their religious minorities (The Muslims) that this same terrorist religions looks and strives to undermine the infrastructure of every great society.
Look over the last thousand years, look at hot areas of the globe, all have a common denominator...Islamic Jihadists. I actually believe we should limit Muslim immigration into this nation, we should use a greater level of scrutiny when allowing any Muslims into sectors of our society that engage in security issues. Before anyone cites the US Constitution, remember that it is a living entity that is allowed to adapt to dire circumstances, Lincoln suppressed the Writ of Habeus Corpus during the Civil War, desperate times, desperate measures...
Anyone find it ironic that when a Christian nut does something goofy we all make sure (as does the media) to identify the idiot as a "Christian" but when a Muslim commits an act of atrocity we make sure to be politically correct and try to separate that Muslim from his mainstream religion, we call them radicals...any real Muslim must engage in Jihad by conscience or by action...
Wake up my fellow Americans...
I am happy that this is happening to the infamously neutral Swedes. As bad as the Nazis were, the Muslim extremists are worse. Countries like Switz, France, Norway, etc, who may or may not be critics of the US, at least need to be aware that appeasement has other meanings these days. At the same time, they need to nip in the bud instances described in this article. The "evil" US empire that wants to conquer and colonize the world as they did with Japan, Germany, Iraq, etc, after their victories there, really should be looked upon in a broader perspective. In fact, without the USA countries like Switz, France, etc, who have had the luxury of villifying the usa for so many decades will be consumed by forces beyond their limited imaginations.
learn to respect other people religions, even if you don't agree with it, and this wouldn't happen.
FYI: Christians and Muslims are brothers, both are descendants of Abraham. Read your bilbes and you'd know that.
Yeah I guess I am missing the whole "Peaceful" and "Tolerant" religion part Muslims say about their religion.
No matter how Marine Sgt., V, and the other Islamophiles want to twist reality, people with ten living brain cells will not be fooled.
For Marine Sgt. - The last six times the U.S. military went into combat, the mission involved saving Muslims, usually from other Muslims.
1991 - We liberated Kuwait from the Iraqis. You're welcome, Kuwait.
1992 - We fed the starving Somalis only to be drawn into the vacuum of their endless civil war. Go figure.
1995 - The U.S. along with NATO saved Sarajevo and the Bosnians from a Serbian take over. We should have acted sooner, but Bill Clinton evidently thought the UN could get its act together given three years time.
1999 - Clinton acted faster this time, and a decade later, Kosovo is an independent country.
2001 - We toppled the Taliban in Afghanistan. I'm sure some of the Afghans appreciate that.
2003 - We toppled Saddam and have wasted a trillion dollars babysitting Iraq ever since.
I know, I know. They're upset now, but come back in 500 or 1000 years and some of their descendants will have moved on... :P
I love the comments about we're 'subjugating the muslim world'....really?! Last I checked, they started that first, they tried conquering Europe from roughly 700 to the late 1400s...why doesn't anyone ever bring THAT up? Because they're on the losing end now and we have to feel sorry for them for something THEY started? Hypocrite cowards. They were trying to conquer Europe even long before the Crusades (which they also still like to whine about of course). Grow up and move on! It's as sinister_seska said above "They dish it out but sure can't take it"
Btw, if anyone is doing the 'subjugating', it's them, they impose their customs and expect the countries they move to cater to them....ummm, there's a reason why you moved from your homelands, they sucked...so what makes you think the religious part of that society worked?
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Oh now come on let us not actually use facts here. *winks*
If the Muslims could govern themselves - which includes not only their internal structure but also the interaction of their people/institutions with other countries - over the long term, then foreign countries would never enter the picture.
Need I remind many of the so-called Christians ranting and raving against Islam and the practices of some of its followers of Christianity's history? What were the Crusades? The Inquisition? What do Christians continue to do to this very day both in the U.S. and abroad? Even in current times, how many gays, the last great holdout for persecution by Christians (which is why Christians are so hell-bent on making sure no laws are passed to protect gays from discrimination...we're the last minority they're legally allowed to oppress), are murdered by people who are driven to do so by anti-gay Christian rhetoric?
C'mon, folks. There's plenty of mud to be flung. The best way to avoid getting hit it is to avoid religion altogether.
well the crusades was in retaliation
what is done now by the us abroad is not done under the banner of christianity it is done under the banner of intimidation and fascism. Even OBAMA said this is not a christian nation. there are some christians that are anti gay.
but i dont read about 3 or more bombings a day by chistians....i dont hear of filmmakers being slaughtered in the streets by christians....there arent videos on the internet of christians decapitating innocent civilians, there arent christians who force south park to edit their content. every area that has muslims is at conflict. africa, middle east, far east.
how can you even deny this
oh and by the way I am not a christian.....i can see things very clearly on who at this point in history are the greatest threat to humanity.
The Crusades were in retaliation? Did Jesus not say "turn the other cheek?" So, Christians don't think their laws apply to themselves, only to others?
so how long ago was the crusades? who is the prominent evil religion right now? is there a possibility of obtaining a dirty nuke? I would then conclude that this is a very serious situation.
all religions have blood on their hands...it just so happens right now most the blood is on the muslims.
oh and by their complete silence and lack of trying to stop these "extremists" the rest of the muslim community is just as guilty.
General Pershing was in charge of a U.S. garrison in the Philippines in 1911. It seems his soldiers were subjected to a series of terror attacks by Filipino Muslims. Pershing did not try to put together a "road map." Nor did he set up study groups to find out why the Muslims hated the Americans. Nor did he offer them a series of "good will gestures." Nor did he put up a giant wall to keep them out. Instead, he captured fifty of those Muslim terrorists. He then had them dig their own graves. He then tied all up to posts execution style. He then dipped fifty bullets in pig's blood. You see, Muslims murders may not have a problem with soaking their hands into Jewish blood but NO WAY do they want anything to do with the skin, blood or 'guts' of a pig. Should they be contaminated by any of these pig parts, they will go to Muslim Hell, not Muslim Paradise!
And so, on the count of three, all but one of those Paradise-seeking Islamists were shot dead! Their bodies were them wrapped in the skins of freshly-killed pigs and dropped into the giant hole. Above them were poured the entrails and other porcine remains. You may ask, "Why was one Muslim spared?" The answer is simple. This sole surviving Muslim was released and sent back to his fellow 'mujahedin' to report what he had just witnessed. For the next 42 years there was not a single Muslim attack!
..ISN'T HISTORY FUN
Bacon anyone?? <:o)
I think the only religion of peace is probably Bhuddism... all of the others, including Islam, and Christianity have far too much blood on their hands to claim such a title.
Bhuddism is a peaceful religion in its ideology, yes. But there have been plenty of wars by Bhuddists. Christianity is also a peaceful religion in its ideology. But like Bhuddists, Christians make war. The thing is that in those religions everyone knows that is not the way it is supposed to be.
Islam was founded in war, spread by war, torture, assassination, rape, mass terror. That is the crucial difference. Islam is supposed to be about war.
@John Toradze : if you should say that about any religion, you should say that about Judaism, which was formed from the principle of taking other people's land through warfare. I have nothing against Jews or Judaism, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. How was Islam founded on war?
Spread by war? Because the Mongols conquered Asia? Did you know that the Mongols were the most religiously tolerant of all, and that they converted to Islam half a century AFTER capturing the continent?
Torture? Assassination? This is so absurd, I encourage you to close the list of "evil" words you are no doubt typing from. If you are thinking torture you are thinking of the Assyrians, in 2000 BCE. 2500 years prior to Islam. I think you have seen too many Hollywood films.
Rape? Since non-marital sex is one of the gravest sins in Islam, leading to instant damnification?
Mass terror? May I ask from where the veracity of this statement is produced? Fox-pedia? It seems like you were thinking of mass destruction and replaced destruction with terror for greater effect.
No other religion that I am currently aware of, actively advocates the killing of people who are not of the religion. I read the Quran cover to cover and started counting the occurences of the phrase "kill infidels where you find them". I lost count at 140. Infidels, by the way, are anyone who is not muslim. I am sick and tired of these so called peaceful people using violence in response to every little alleged slight of their so called religion. If that religion is about peace, how come the average, run of the mill muslim does not put a stop to the 'minority' carrying out violence in the name of allah? All we do is worry about offending them...but they don't give a damn about offending us. Until the so called peace loving muslims actually live up to their claims of abhoring the violence of their fanatical brothers and put a stop to the fanatacism, I don't give a damn about them. Screw them...
I think it's safe to say that all religions have blood on their hands, somewhere. There's no need to pick on just one or two including Muslims or Christians. Frankly I have no use for any of them.
To hell with these fanatic mama-mud freaks! They have ALWAYS been murderers, rapists and womanizers. If I would have been that professor: I would have acted in self defense and there would have been one less fanatic on this beautiful, peaceful planet.
Are we here to sit around and let them dictate how we should live our lives, and should we keep our mouths shut and not express our opinions? NO!
When the battle begins against these abominations I want to personally be on the front line with the roach spray.
TYLER: don't you dare ban me again for speaking my mind on this site against the fanatic islamic b@stards, or you make yourself to be no better than those freaking violent murderers!!!
I am in no way saying anything against any peaceful religion.
any and all religion is a bunk
muslims are hypocrites hands down.
well ill say the same for all religion two face bunks, they are all worthless.
if someone want to believe in something believe in themselves, thats the true god, is believing in yourself!
What a bunch of ignorant Trolls... If one is to be a troll, there should be a minimal standard.
All organized religion will be the downfall of America and this world. It is the cause of the majority of all wars and divisions within societies.
Read "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris. You will be enlighted, and embarrassed for the religious fools throughout this world.
I try like hell to not be prejudiced, but Muslims can't even stand each other. They hate and exterminate each other, and in many countries treat their women like dogs or worse.
My daughter took a college course to try to understand them and learn acceptance. She developed an intolerance worse than before she took the course. The instructor, a female Muslim, apparently couldn't hide the fact that she was as intolerant towards non-Muslims as they come.
I wish the ones who are so full of hate would just kill each other off quickly and get it over with and leave the rest of us in peace. I'm sure their Hell will be untouchable virgins drawing funny pics of Mohammed all over the place, and God/Mohammed will have the last laugh.
These religious nuts should all be committed to insane asylums
On behalf of my dogs, my very best and most precious friends, I was outraged too. These people totally suck.
As a catholic, I tend to critisize the past of my own religion more than i do any others for it is through our critisisms that we remain moderated. The fact that no one in the world is alowed to critisize the muslim religion is the biggest problem they have and as long as that stands their extremests will run rampant over their world just as the catholic church did in its dark days.
the question of any religion being right or wrong is something that cannot be answered in human terms, but i do wish all those that do not believe in any god would respect my faith as i respect them, critisize when it is needed, but slander leads nowhere you want to go.
I have an idea that should take care of at least most of the problem. We have the technology to reproduce pictures of Hillary Clinton naked on most of their TV's, paper currency, billboards and literally saturate those areas known to be infected by Radical Muslims with naked pictures of Hillary Clinton.
If I understand the Muslim religion correctly (and I freely admit I am no expert), then every Muslim man seeing the naked picture of Hillary would have to kill himself. Anyone choosing not to honor their religion would probably go blind from seeing Hillarynaked anyway and thereby rendered ineffective as a terrorists. This would at the very least put a good dent in the terrorist threat from Radial Muslims terrorists. Who knows the Arabs might even agree to reduce to price of oil from just the threat of dropping a few picts on them as well.
I do not see what the problem is mohamad was a dog, a child molester, a liar, and a crazed lunatic. ANyone who believes he was special is ignorant.
I hope they come for me. I retired before the new war on terror was caused by a bunch of dirtbag islamic fanatics, and I would love to have some fun.
I am locked and loaded at all times!!!!!
head butted !!! wha was that ?
Sorry Ernie, but they have to see a WOMAN naked. Naked Hillary may just confuse them. But maybe they will not be able to procreate ever again because of that image burned in their tiny little minds and will pop up every time they try.
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Wow ya need to get out more and see the world. You actually think that if religions did not exist wars would not happen? Seriously?
How about if PEOPLE did NOT EXIST then wars would not happen. None religious people still engage in war and other such inhumane atrocities.
And religious people can also be quite humane and not engage in war.
So sorry your Atheist Sam Harris there is full of it and has been criticized for what he has said. He is just another Atheist Preacher.
Hiring a closed minded bigot doesn't sound like a good approach to teaching religious tolerance.
Out of curiosity, which university did this happen at? UC Berkeley? :P
The irony is that Muslim women are prohibited from teaching at the university level in all but a handful of Muslim countries.
Baloney. Maybe if you talk to Muslims from that area, but their misguided and misinterpreted religious dictates based on the Koran speaks differently worldwide. It's a religious scourge.
Well it is a known fact that not all Muslims are terrorist, But It Is Also A Known Fact That Almost All Terrorist Are Muslim!
Mo ham mud is a gay rabid dog who prays on women and children. He thinks this makes him a man but it only show what a weak pathetic piece of crap he is.
Marine Sgt. - the difference is "we" go to those countries and fight against the militants and try not to have civilian casualties. "They" come to the US and strive to kill innocent people. Big difference.
Roland Tibbs:
Ever heard of the KKK? Their membership is an exponential value of the total known amount of Muslim Terrorists. One out of every three humans is Muslim. Islam is the 2nd largest religion to Christianity, and it is rapidly gaining. Do you honestly think that 2 billion people are terrorists, because if they are the world would be screwed. I encourage you to read this http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-20539.html
Any other arab produced propaganda U-Tube you like to share with us in defense of Muslim terrorists?
His name "redguard" says it all....anti-American communist.
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I said Almost All,I did not go to the site u mention because i support our military and will support anything they have to do to stop the terrorist.I choose to be as closed minded as they are,if they start to show respect for human life then i will show respect back.Until then i will show them the same respect as they show us!enough said.
Simper Fi
My comment above was directed to Marine SGT., who is probably a taliban in a cave somewhere with a laptop.
These radical Muslims have turned their entire religion into cartoon.
I think all religions are pretty cartoonish... Talking snakes pushing forbidden apples that get you kicked out of paradise? There are so many more of examples but, you get the idea...
Somebody should start a whole cartoon series based on Muhammad maybe Muhammad as Fred Flintstone
Speaking of cartoons, I was expecting the author of this article to refer to May 20th. May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day".
To get your juices flowing here is the most extensive online archive of Mohammed images.
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/
Enjoy and keep is classy.
No - islam actually is that crazy. The prophet was like jim jones down in Guyana. He heard voices, he tortured people, he raped captives, he enslaved, he assassinated his critics, and on and on.
If you study koran and ha'dith and muslim history you will realize that Al Qaeda is right.
What we call "radical islam" is the true islam. That's the problem. Everyone else is a bad muslim. There's lots of them, but lets not kid ourselves.
I don't belong to any mosque, but serving with Iraqi soldiers and asking them and our interpreters about what motivates Muslim extremists has enlightened me. Moreover, ADHERENTS OF OTHER RELIGIONS HAVE REACTED VIOLENTLY TOO AND TRIED TO SUPPRESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
The various forms of religious-based, intimidation-driven censorship and taboo ideas in the U.S. — what people claim are non-existent except when it involves Muslims — are too numerous to chronicle. One has to be deeply ignorant, deeply dishonest or consumed with petulant self-victimization and anti-Muslim bigotry to pretend they don’t exist. I opt (primarily) for the latter explanation in most anti-muslim's case.
As Balloon-Juice’s DougJ notes, everyone from Phil Donahue and Ashliegh Banfield to Bill Maher and Sinead O’Connor can tell you about that first-hand. As can the cable television news reporters who were banned by their corporate executives from running stories that reflected negatively on Bush and the war. When he was Mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani was fixated on using the power of his office to censor art that offended his Catholic sensibilities. The Bush administration banned mainstream Muslim scholars even from entering the U.S. to teach. The Dixie Chicks were deluged with death threats for daring to criticize the Leader, forcing them to apologize out of fear for their lives. Campaigns to deny tenure to academicians, or appointments to politicial officials, who deviate from Israel orthodoxy are common and effective. Responding to religious outrage, a Congressional investigation was formally launched and huge fines issued all because Janet Jackson’s breast was displayed for a couple of seconds on television.
All that’s to say nothing of the endless examples of religious-motivated violence by Christian and Jewish extremists designed to intimidate and suppress ideas offensive to their religious dogma (I’m also pretty sure the people doing this and this are not Muslim). And, contrary to most anti-muslim's misleading suggestions, hate speech laws have been used for censorious purposes far beyond punishing speech offensive to Muslims — including, for instance, by Christian groups invoking such laws to demand the banning of plays they dislike.
I have no idea what Janet Jackson's breast has to do with your ranting bull$%$@ defending Muslim radicals against the US and the free societies of Europe.
I will not be far or out of line saying that you may be the next Maj. Hassan massacring our soldiers.
For the safety and security of our citizens, soldiers and our nation, you should be monitored by the authorities.
All the signs are right there in your anti American rantings for everyone to read - which are quite similar to what that terrorist bastard said before Ft. Hood shooting.
He was trying to educate you about censorship in America... it was your immature mind that focused on the breast and ignored the rest.
Way out of line actually.
From what I'm gathering from your rants, I think for the safety of future generations you should refrain from reproducing.
Please illuminate us oh great patriot and protector of the bald eagle... please quote where he said something that was anti-American... Questioning policies of our government and institutions is EXTREMELY American... and if you had ever read the Declaration of Independance you would know that it is your DUTY as an American citizen to do so.
You actually state the media suppressed storys to make Bush look good. Take your drugs man, you are slipping into a psychotic state.
Your enlightened alright. Weak minded jackasses like you undermine any effective counter measure to these pigs! I pray you have left the service (if indeed you were ever in) and quit soiling the uniform. Traitor!
Oh, get a grip WLEIT. Or go join up yourself. Anything else is the mark of a twit.
Hey Mike D. then why are people who speak your brand of free speech only okay...Hmmm? When ever I hear people question Obama policies they are put down. I question Obama's policies quite regularly so I giess that makes me a patriot.
As for the intolerant protesters that threatened the cartoonist they should all be sprayed with pork fat and be sent to their virgins.
Sarge..Though I was brought up in a Christian home, I am also a former atheist and agnostic. My life was a wreck and I was unaware of it. I was so unhappy despite some love and success in life. When I looked inside myself I saw darkness. In desperation, I prayed to God. Like meditation, it took me to a certain calm place inside which gave me some peace. Then I forgot about it cause I was feeling better. Long story short, I eventually saw that there was a tie in between spirituality and depression remission. I don't attend church, never been a joiner of groups. But, with God I have progressed to become medication/drug/tobacco/alcohol independent. I can now have relationships that aren't all about sex. God was inside of me all along but I was too horny, stoned, proud, egotistical and stubborn to accept the reality of my human weaknesses and failings. God raises a lot of people like me, and worse, up from a basically wasted existence. We need more God.
now .. with all that prayer you're just one more problem
For more infor go to: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/04/no-name-radicals-vs-south-park-just-a-distraction/
I agree with you Sgt, and those who say we were not there before 9/11 have apparently forgotten Desert Storm and our continual involvement with Israel and the fact we pay Egypt tons of money each year so they will not attack them. :)
As for this artist who got attacked, I do not personally think this should not have happened to him even with his creation of the cartoon depicting the prophet Muhammad. I think this sort of lashing out is because, as you say, they feel as a whole targeted by the West and this is leading to such outbursts.
I think your opinions hold validity since you are over there and get a firsthand opportunity to discuss such topics with them to understand the reasoning behind such things.
It is a pity to see so many problems and terrible acts being done just behind the guise of religion. Religion is being used to carry out people's own will and ambitions, which is very contrary to what religion preaches in its purest form, without people meddling with it and creating various interpretations.
I am glad that while over there you are trying to understand their culture and their way of thinking because just because a country thinks and lives differently from the West does not make them "backwards" or "wrong," such thoughts are ethnocentric. I hope you leave a good impression about the West while over there because the more we work to break down misconceptions about each other's countries, the more this ignorance driven hate will decline. We are more alike than we are different. We all strive for the same things in life: a family, a good job, a home etc. and the more we allow each other to see that, the more we can move on from such acts of stupidity and division.
Have a good one and I am proud you are over there and I wish there were more sane people out there like you. You are a true American, breaking down the divides. :)
maureen
well i have been over there and I dont hold the same opinion as him. So the Dutch and Swedes are now America? Remember the dutch artist who was killed in the streets for the documentary he filmed?
please get off the america israel kick....this guy is a swede....all the non muslims in indonesia and elsewhere who are attacked are not americans and israelis.
the religion has millions of nuts..
end of story.
I do not doubt there are millions of nuts in all religions for that matter. :)
What does it matter if this man is a Swede? I was speaking in general, and yes those acts you mention (the dutch artist, Christians getting targeted in Indonesia) are inexcusable. They reflect how people get so caught up in their differences and view the world through "us" vs "them" glasses.
As for America & Israel I was talking about American involvement in the Middle East, I was not bringing up the Zionist movement. ^^
Yes, James these sorts of acts described in the article and what you described in your message cannot be justified in any way, shape, or form even if you try to find random quotes of scripture to attach to them. This crap really just needs to end already, even though it probably never will.
How appropriate: LOON watch. We're watching you, LOON, and your pro-Taliban bull. STFU already!
the entire "america is the blame for muslims lashing out" logic is faulty as the swedes and dutch have been attacked, not americans. islam is the only religon that gets a free pass on their attackes on people.
maureen - Your problem is that everytime a Muslim terrorist kills somebody, you truy to find a connection with.......Israel. That is crap that comes out of a loony mind.
If you read what I wrote Jim you would see I was talking about the West in general, not singling out America.
Michael, Israel was just one small part of the whole, once again read what I actually wrote before you jump to conclusions.
This is the face of modern Islam. This is the behavior of modern Islam in any country they inhabit. Get used to it. It's not going to change until "host" countries stop making excuses and start pushing back.
No other religion does this so consistently and violently. Any commenters who insist otherwise, are simply deluded or trolls.
Ehh, Janets boob wasn't much to look at. As far as Haji is concerned..one shot,one kill.
muzzys are muzzys the wourld around if you let them they will BE IN YOUR TOWN!
Where the &$*% are the Vikings when Sweden really needs them!
Even the Vikings abandoned Odin and turned to Christianity!
Islam.........., the "religion" of peace and "truth".
What??????
Sorry no religion is peace and truth, Only Truth is Truth and only Truth will bring Peace if any religion had all truth they wouldn't need to kill those that didn't believe their dogma that they think was Truth.
B. Turner
Where in the name of Odin are the Vikings when the Swedes really need them?
(Sorry for the double posting...I thought the first had been accidentally deleted).
They're there. They ride Harleys. Their collective anger is simmering.
Cassandra-773719:
All the Vikings and Swedes (at least your kind) are on Stormfront, honey. Go there to talk to Odin, and Woden, and Sigfried. Enjoy.
does any one know where i can get a t-shirt with mohhamed on it ? (on a dogs body or with a bomb for a turbin....it does not matter)
That's the one with the big red bullseye on the back, right?
what needs to be done is cartoon writing on a massive scale to show the muslims.
Religious freaks...get over it! Stupid f*cks.
You know your religion stinks when you have to use force to get people to believe in it. Muslims and Christians - two peas in a pod. Maybe that's why they hate each other so much.
Amen to that.
DOUBLE Amen to that!!!!!!!!!
Christianity in this century does not teach violence. Jesus speaks of love for your fellow man. The Muslim religious schools around the world teach that it is a good Muslim's duty to convert the entire world to Islam or to kill you as an infidel. It does not get much more black and white than that. Islam needs to move from the 12th century into the 21st century. Islam is a religion of peace if you are a man and a believer - leaving out most of the rest of the world such as women and children.
Actually, the majority of Christians and Muslims (who account for 1/3 of the worlds population each) do not hate each other. They often do not have contact with each other. Most muslims struggle for survival in poverty. Its a few thousand of each religion who hate everyone else's guts. Look at the KKK
Ahhhhhh, the religion of peace.
The apologetic attitude will continue in this country as long as we have one of the brothers in the white house.
Notice how the Arkansas shooter, the Ft. Hood shooter, the Detroit bomber and now the Times Square bomber are receding into the woodwork.
By design people.
Good point..can anyone even remember the name of the Ft Hood shooter, or the underwear bomber, or the shoe bomber or any of the 911 hijackers????
For that matter ANY of the world trade truck bombers from the first attempt?????
Funny isnt it that they keep Mcvieghs name alive, and Lee Oswald, or even Border Agent Ramos or Campeon but the muslim criminals fade quickly.
Thank you for displaying your ignorant racist mind right off the bat... saves some time.
Hmmmnnnn.... I think it might be that it's just easier to remember names that we recognize as "normal" to our own culture... Muslim names tend to sound like they have too many consonants and not enough vowels to our ears, and are just plain hard to pronounce, let alone remember.... unless they're pounded into your head like Saddam Hussein, or Osama Bin Laden....
V:
Ahhhhhhh,
The name calling of the left. Do you guys practice that or are you born that way?
#1 - You did make a racist comment... a racist is by definition ignorant... I didn't so much call you a "name", as I did thank you for announcing your narrow minded, outdated mentality... I think your proper response should have been... "your welcome".... just common courtesy.
#2 - I am not "left", nor am I a democrat... uh-oh... does that turn your world upside down now? I'm not black either... Hmmmnn.... there must be some pre-programmed hateful ideology you can paint me into a corner with.... nope not gay either, sorry.... AH! Got it... I'm a lifelong Yankee fan... there you go, let your hate flow man...
V --
LOL
Good reply.
Lets just keep apologizing for who we are while the invasion continues,by the way I never hear muslims,mexicans or anyone else say no to our money and resources.
Just like we don't say no to China.
The world would be better off if all people abandoned doctrinaire religious ideology. None of it is worth the violence it begets. Muslims need to realize that people have a right to mock their religion, but so do Christians. We have our own home grown Christian fanatics, that is true, but Muslim excesses are not justified by excesses of other religions.
Well said.
By all means, Sam. Let's all abandon religious ideology. Just the way Soviet Russia did when Stalin and the Communists ruled throughout the thirties and into the 80's and Godlessness as part of their rule. Now, that indeed was a violence-free, pleasant place to live, eh?
C'mon....That was Russia.... and oppresive communism...
Just because someone else drove their god-free car into a tree, doesn't mean we would.
God *IS* great.
It's the intolerant people...and their half-assed, self-serving and twisted interpretations of His message that generally suck.
If heaven is reserved only for those who condemn others for what they believe--or what they don't believe--then bring on the brimstone.
Paradise isn't worth that.
god is great
muhammed was just a pedophile.
A whole crowd of muslims.....good place for a car bomb...kind of a taste of there own medicine huh. But I really cant blame them for being angry at this guy for drawing mohammed as a dog...Its damn insulting...I like dogs. Whats he got against poor dogs to depict them as mohammed???
You can get a free Koran from a Saudi funded outfit online. The type is small. The paper is very thin and gentle on sensitive tissues
The Swedes should round up these Muslim extremists and deport them to whatever God-forsaken desert they came from. We should immediately execute Jihad Jane as an example to the rest of the Muslim world of what happens to Muslim extremists in the US. Of course, the Swedes are wimpy Socialists, so they will do nothing, and unfortunately, the US is now run by wimpy Socialists so we also will do nothing.
Absent the intellectual acumen to discern the difference between democratic socialism, communism, and rheumatism, is it any wonder the political elite of the neoconservative movement depend upon just such an intellectual vacuum in their manipulation of their so-called "base" as exemplified in the radical Christian Right and exemplified in such inane comments as above.
You are so right. Oh...but i'm just a crazy Radical Christian, making an inane comment. Gee, i wish, i was a know-it-all lefty.
Wleit, are you a Christian? Do you believe Jesus is Lord?
Another fantastic example for why we just need to go ahead and do away with all Muslims.
Spoken like a true Stalinist, or Moaist, or Pol Pot, or Hitler, or Gobels, or etc., .... Hateful demogogues and ditto heads are a dime a dozen. And they are all spewing the same hateful tune.
Come to think of it, "do away with all [insert your favorite group to hate]" was Hitler's final solution for the Jews. Behold America! The future brown shirts of American Fascism. All it will take is for the demogogues who know how to dress these kind of hateful intentions up in pretty sounding rhetoric and how to maniputate the emotions of the mindless minions that give expression to them to sweep into polticial power, and indeed, we may all oneday be witness to the rounding up of Muslims for imprisonment or worse.
Keep the people. Kill the gods.
Solution: Strip citizenship and deport.
NEXT!!!!!!
#1 - this happened in Sweden, not the US.
#2 - Would you advocate using the same punishment for Fundamentalist Christians that attack an abortion clinic doctor?
v
yes
terrorism is terrorism
Would you advocate stripping citizen ship and deporting for just those who have been convicted or for anyone who was Muslim convicted or not? Just wondering.
Anyone who is Muslim, period!
Oh, and Muhammad was a fag! A REAL GIRLY MAN!
I think the reason your are unemployed might have something to do with your own behavior ;-) Just in case your unemployed because of the recent financial meltdown, you might try hard to figure out who really is responsible and direct some of that anger (constructively) in that direction.
Stripped citizens?! Is this another Republican fund raiser?
Rick --
ROFL
Wow!
I just took a big steaming, stinking Prophet Muhammad.
It filled the bowl.
I needed a whole roll of the Koran to wipe!
Very intelligent response. Is that you Cheney?
We need to understand the mindset to fix the problem. Wiping them out is not an option (although it seems that many on here would welcome that). The basic tenants of Islam are no more violent than Christianity's and most Muslims don't want us dead - regardless of what you read from the uneducated on the blogs.
Muslims are no more ignorant and foolish than Christians. They are all equally stupid lemmings.
After all the chatter about Muslims, I believe we understand their mindset. If you are a women and tried walking around in a Muslim country without a headscarf you understand all you need to. The folks don't politely tell you, they threaten you with physical violence.
These are not well educated folks.. their lives revolve around their religion. Their religion is violent, as it conquered half the know world when it appeared. Not quite the same as Christian. Big difference between Muslim and Christian.. The Muslims never went through a reformantion process. Christians had Martin Luther, Henry the eigth, etc. No parallel in Muslim religion. They are still following the same tenents as they had 1400 years ago.
Most of these folks hate the jews because the Jews grew up in the same neighborhood, but became successful without any oil or religious leader (like a mullah or something). Had to be the West that made the Jews successful... couldn't be that Islam is a problem that won't work in a modern world.
I think I understand these folks pretty well.
Oh Boy-1037695
Thats Some Funny Sh$t LMAO
Jcook.......you pretty much got it nailed except for one item.
The muslims hate the Jews because when muhammad was just trying to get started, he went to some of the local jews in Mecca and told him he was a prophet. They laughed their collective arses off and told him he was a joke.....but never a prophet. THEY Knew what a prophet was...Isaih, Ezekial, Jeremiah, etc...those were prophets. Mohammad? Not a chance.
Needless to say, when he finally convinced a few of the less intelligent locals and then he raised an small army, he slaughtered all the local jews...and thus it has been ever since by his command...kill all jews.
so you had a colossal Shiite you might say
jcook --
I don't think you do, judging by the amount of b.s. you wrote.
I've lived in an Arab Muslim country. They aren't all extremists and therefore newsworthy. In some Muslim countries, women dress as they please, attend university, hold jobs, choose their own spouse ... oh wait, that was Iraq before we attacked it.
Well, there are other Muslim countries like Iraq used to be, and without Saddam and his pig boys, too. Although Iraq under Saddam was unquestionably a thousand times better than Iraq under the U.S.
It take great intellectual ability to come up with that. Are you in the Tea Party?
That was also Tehran Iran prior to Jimmy Carter, it was a western city with men in business suits and women in wetsern clothing and driving cars and working in offices. It was a very upscale and productive city and the entire country was booming in oil, business and technology. Then came the mullahs and the revolutionaries and drove it back into the dark ages which is the root of their uprisinf and dissent now. Their bad luck is when it first started we had a gutless president who refused to help them against the wacko's, and now history is again repeating itself. The people of Iran want to restore their freedom and liberty and we again have a gutless president in office. They really should work on their timing.....
oh boy; That is quite fitting of the so-called prophet Mohammad. He was a fake. It is easy to prophesies things that have already happened or that you plan on doing.
I prophesies that I am going to get a beer! Shazaam I have a beer in my hands right now so, I must be a prophet. Better yet I prophesies that the Islamic fanatics will fly planes into buildings on 9/11/2001. It happened so I must really be a great prophet!!!
Now if you could just spell.