Once they are caught trafficking they should enforce mandatory life sentences! A lot of them have been in and out of prisons all their life, Keep them and first time offenders behind bars for the remainder of their days. This may decrease the trafficking a bit, Everything helps!
With over 2 million people incarcerated and another 5 million under surveillance by Parole and Probation (the most in the world on both accounts), your idea seems to be working out swimmingly!
Danger, let me offer two rebutals to your rationale. One, google DEA Most Wanted and you will realize that courts are letting cereal drug people out on bail. Why would any judge let out a rich illegal acused of a felony unless he wanted him to flee? How does that square with your two million encarcerated perspective? Second is that law enforcement agree that they come to work and then turn to drugs when they see how lax we are about illegal workers. Expell the illegal workers and solve the problem. People say that we can't expell "twelve million people," and their case stops there; they never say why we can't expell twelve million people. The simple cheep fix is to stop allowing employers to hire them and watch them leave. How hard is it to stop illegal employment? Just enforce the law, as written, on employment, and quit giving illegal employers a free get out of prosecution pass.
Hey Poncho listen up; you sneak in across the boarder, break OUR laws and then expect the same laws you just broke and disrespected to save your ass to keep you here...while the rest of your people stand in line, do what's right and respect what it takes to be an American...something you obviously have over looked.
Maybe you should go live in a third world country and starve with your family by your side... all the while looking over a fence at a country rich with food, water, jobs, and healthcare... and see what thought crosses your mind.
You might as well let 'em come. If you talk about securing the borders, some hispanic advocate will call you a racist. C'mon on in brothers. The land of the free and the home of the brave. As a nation we no longer exist. We are tribes or cultures. I've loved my home for sixty years, and it's a heartbreak to watch it turn into another third world country. The young folks will be at war with each other in twenty years. I may not be here, but they will. God forgive us.
We started the war with Mexico, slaughtered thousands of men, women, and children, burned villages to the ground, and claimed half of their country as our own (what is now the southwester United States)... all in the name of Manifest Destiny.
Polk sent a liaison to offer $25 million to Mexico, they refused, we declared war, we won, the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed, and we gave Mexico $18 million for what is now the southwest.
The USA is turning into a third world country simply because the leaders of our people have voted God out of our society, and for no other reason. He won't intrude where He's not welcome. There is one solution only, and that is Jesus Christ being the one who guides each of our lives, and our nation as a whole. Of course, I realize many don't want to hear that.
All the laws we have on the books prove we can't legislate happiness or safety or blessings. God alone is our source of blessings. Kick God out of America, and His blessings go with Him, and we're seeing it: when He removes His protection from us we have disasters, fires, hurricanes, tornados, floods, sickness, unrest, and everything else that is bad.
Psalm 144:11-15, Psalm 33:12, Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
Danger, If the southwest had remained in Mexican control then the Hispanics that were on the land would not have prospered like Americans. They would be part of the starvation you speak of. Why would southwestern and western Hispanics want to allow Mexican influence into their politics when it is aparent that the Mexican model is one of curruption and fascism?
The problem is that our county's government makes money off of the drug trade via the CIA. Where do you think all the funding for black-ops comes from?
The drug war will never end because it is really a class war...
and the class war has been going on for centuries.
What else is new? I heard this story for over 10 years now. The border agents close off the tunnels, the drug cartels make new ones. It is nothing but a vicious cycle. It will never end unless we take Mexico itself.
I'm so sick of these stories, illegal drugs will never be stopped. The media is so biased on this topic especially the topic of legalization of marijuana. They try to sensationalise the story by showing the cops at work,and the DEA who cares.Let marijuana be legal tax it and let law enforcement fight the heavier drugs.If we legalize marijuana these cartels will no longer pose a threat to this country.Lets see how long this story lasts on this web page since every time they report about legalization of weed the story seems to disappear rather quickly.
Time to bring in the "drones" and notify Mehico that it's citizens will be shot if entering the US illegally. That is their own rule for their southern borders.
damn liberal opinion. You dont get it do you. illegal aliens are not civilians, and should be treated as criminals like drug and human traffickers. Go hug a tree!
Sounds like we can all go party and live at Dangers house. And if he shoots us or hits us or tries to force us to move out, we can just tell him we are all human beings and deserve to live there.
Land Mines, No since a lot of our jobs like Levis and Wrangler Jeans , and a whole bucnh of car parts have been shipped down there we can't offend them huh? Or maybe if we did they'd stop making your favorite Chocolet mix...Yep, Land Mines, Blow'um the hell up
First in this economy the drug abusers are willing to cough up much needed cash to support their habit. A lot of that cash maybe tax paid SS money or unemployment cash etc.
Second this reminds me of what the British Empire tried to do to China to gain commercial dominance on that nation. She grew opium in India and addicted the Chinese all the way up to the royalty. They would have won over a drugged out population, if not for the Boxer rebellion.
Thirdly the ingenious ways that the current drug cartel basically run by Mexicans can also be used in an uprising or to support the other cause of "La Raza". If the drug smugglers can enter the US no matter how we try to thwart them then they are developing the seed elements of guerrila warfare and we are not recognizing a military in the making.
Just some more good stuff from our "friends" south of the border in addition to tens of millions of illegals, the swine flu, gang wars and border killings (on the U.S. side).............thanks for all you do.
This is the most lawless area short of Afghanistan or Pakistan.
If you want to quell the flow of illegal drugs and keep from supporting the bad guys, you need to look at history. We had prohibition and with it, lots of guns and crime, tax evasion, etc.
If you want to take the glamour away from drugs, you must first take the money. Take the money and what is the attraction? How do you take the money? Legalize the stuff. There are no walls tall enough, no fences high enough, and no glass bubbles strong enough to prevent the flow of drugs/money into the US.
Capitalize on the opportunity. Tax it senselessly.
Require federal consensus on age allowance to purchase drugs. 18-21 with ID that has Social Security #, Thumb Print, Picture, and current address. Require renewal every year.
When you purchase drugs, (any drugs, heroin, pot, pills, all of it) require presentation of the ID and swipe it through a electronic terminal much like a credit card machine. The data is downloaded at the end of the night and cross referenced with all licensing agencies, Pilot license, Subway Operators, Train Operators, Truck Drivers, teachers, etc. It also cross references all on indigent programs. This includes all welfare, student loan, student aide, Pell Grant, College assistance, housing, food stamps, unemployment, Medicaid/medicare, and any other government assistance. Social Security should not be considered if you worked for it and earned it.
Now, with each nightly download, the data is matched with people receiving benefits because they claim they can't afford their needs> If you have matched to any of the programs or licensing programs, you are immediately suspended. To reapply for the license you must complete 180 days of Drug Therapy, (paid for via taxes captured in the sale). Once you have completed the therapy, you may reapply for the license and submit to drug testing every 30 days for 6 months and then every 6 months thereafter if you are allowed back into the field you are required to be licensed in. If you were receiving any government aide, you must complete the same therapy and be subject to the same drug testing. Any person that needs government assistance is like a minor under the roof of their parents home. You must live by the rules and that is that. If you prove you can't afford your basics in life, that indicates you are not qualified to have adult rights, voting privilege, gun license, etc. You should be submitted to drug testing every 30 days.
Now, moving foraward. To pay for the program of therapy, we divert the sensless sums spent trying to stop the flow of drugs into the country and we send it on eduaction, therapy Clinics, and Healthcare.
On the poppy plants and opium derivatives from Afghanistan and other areas, buy the crop directly from the farmer to alleviate the middle man, ie: the Taliban, Al Quedaetc. We need the opiates for pain management and there is no cheaper way to impact the income of the bad guys.
For the stores that will sell this new tax source, place the licensing into the public sector and operation into private hands, much like the liquor store and beer store. Tax it to no end and stop spending money on intervention.
Let the insurance industry purchase the same information that goes to all of the licensing agencies and government assistance offices. Let Companies have access to these files in the process of new hire or HR management.
If you don't want the government to have those records, don't put yourself into position to be listed. If you are caught selling to a minor or anyone for that matter, and you are caught, let the government fine you hard like they think you are rich.
Basically, allow people to choose. Allow people what they feel is best for themselves but don't allow the rest of the population to endure the costs of your folly. I don't want to share in your liability. It is undeniable that drugs impair motor skills and though processes. You want a job in my company and you use drugs? I have job opportunities cleaning the bathrooms, sweeping the parking lots, all of the low wage mindless opportunities you clearly aspire when you chose drugs in this society.
If you don't like the plan, don't worry, you have a choice.
So we can spend billions on bombing people halfway around the world, billions on bailouts, and yet no one wants to spend enough to secure our own borders? It's only going to get worse. I'm just glad I don't live in AZ.
What's wrong with legalization of pot, a vastly increased border presence, and increased public safety in these lawless areas? It's just too easy for politicians to take care of, because it doesn't fit either corrupt party's MO. Reta*ded.
The problem is many fold. As long as the American people insist upon buying drugs, there will be suppliers. As long as there are huge profits to be made, lawmen will be paid off. The criminal mind finds a way. The best solution is to close off the northern and southern borders. This will reduce illegal immigration, drug smuggling and terrorists from entering the country. As out of control as Mexico is now, it is insane to keep the border open. We are only asking for trouble.
Why bother? legalize drugs, let the druggies do their thing, and die of overdoses. Let the drug dealers kill each other. We can't stop crime, the record shows is. If someone wants drugs, they will get them somehow. Stop wasting our tax money on jailing drug dealers. If they legalize and tax drugs, someone will find a way to not pay taxes on them and that will give the IRS something worthwhile to do pursuing the drug-tax evaders. Let the drug users live out their short lives unbothered , but legalize vigilante groups to eliminate those who commit crimes against non-drug users. Then spend our tax money helping and protecting law abiding CITIZENS.
The only way it will end is to make sentences mandatory even for first time users or dealers. Make the risk outwiegh the reward. Under the current system people are willing to take the risk because the laws are so lax.
Though that sounds good...you know that would never work. So what we still need are solutions that actually stand a chance of working. Any reasonable ideas ?
Why won't it work, because that's what the TV says? Maybe you should read some political theory instead of immediately discounting a concept you don't understand.
We don't need to be dependentdependant on government to care for our every need. We can provide for ourselves.
Thousands of years of different forms of government have all yielded the same thing: War, genocide, class inequalities, slavery, and atrocity.
Raging Capitalist, I love your plan! Back in the Green, We'd laugh at ourselves thinking we were the only ones to come up with a National Dope Head Registry card! We'd buy direct with pallets of currency, load it up and burn it up before it got to the States in front of our competitor's eyes! Growers always sold it to us because we'd outbid everyone else. I'm pretty sure we cut down on the length of the Beirut mess back in the 80's. That's where Walid Jumblatt and the Druise Militia continue to move P-Stan's and A-Stan's opium. Makes it's way to the Port of Lisbon, Portugal (where dope is legal) Jumblatt pays for Portugal's dope user headaches as part of his operational costs. The bought and paid for Portugese government closes it's eyes with an extended hand for cash while the dope boats head west to feed America's dopeheads. Been there, seen it, done it. Nothing like good old experience talking here! I'd vote for you, dude!
Once they are caught trafficking they should enforce mandatory life sentences! A lot of them have been in and out of prisons all their life, Keep them and first time offenders behind bars for the remainder of their days. This may decrease the trafficking a bit, Everything helps!
With over 2 million people incarcerated and another 5 million under surveillance by Parole and Probation (the most in the world on both accounts), your idea seems to be working out swimmingly!
Do you have any other perfect solutions?
Yes, Build more prisons or exterminate them! Does that help you out a bit..
Okay there Adolph.
Typical boneheaded reply!
You're talking about exterminating people and I'm the bonehead?
Okay!
Danger, let me offer two rebutals to your rationale. One, google DEA Most Wanted and you will realize that courts are letting cereal drug people out on bail. Why would any judge let out a rich illegal acused of a felony unless he wanted him to flee? How does that square with your two million encarcerated perspective? Second is that law enforcement agree that they come to work and then turn to drugs when they see how lax we are about illegal workers. Expell the illegal workers and solve the problem. People say that we can't expell "twelve million people," and their case stops there; they never say why we can't expell twelve million people. The simple cheep fix is to stop allowing employers to hire them and watch them leave. How hard is it to stop illegal employment? Just enforce the law, as written, on employment, and quit giving illegal employers a free get out of prosecution pass.
I don't care about all the drugs getting across, I'm more concerned about all the illegal immigrants especially the ones that make anchor babies.
No human being is illegal.
No human being is illegal.
They are if they enter here from under the fence...
Typical American: scared, angry, and ignorant.
Hey Poncho listen up; you sneak in across the boarder, break OUR laws and then expect the same laws you just broke and disrespected to save your ass to keep you here...while the rest of your people stand in line, do what's right and respect what it takes to be an American...something you obviously have over looked.
Poncho?
Nice racial stereotype.
Maybe you should go live in a third world country and starve with your family by your side... all the while looking over a fence at a country rich with food, water, jobs, and healthcare... and see what thought crosses your mind.
danger, you are a typical liberal. Join a 12 step program.
Liberalism like alcoholism is a disease
I'm not liberal, conservative, or moderate....
I don't subscribe to close minded ideologies...
even if you do.
You might as well let 'em come. If you talk about securing the borders, some hispanic advocate will call you a racist. C'mon on in brothers. The land of the free and the home of the brave. As a nation we no longer exist. We are tribes or cultures. I've loved my home for sixty years, and it's a heartbreak to watch it turn into another third world country. The young folks will be at war with each other in twenty years. I may not be here, but they will. God forgive us.
It's their land. Ever read a history book?
Here's a lesson:
We started the war with Mexico, slaughtered thousands of men, women, and children, burned villages to the ground, and claimed half of their country as our own (what is now the southwester United States)... all in the name of Manifest Destiny.
Actually I'd argue that it's the Native American's land (even though they didn't believe in ownership)...
but we genocided the hell out of those poor saps, right?
Remembering the atrocities your government has carried out does not make one a traitor.
However, forgetting them makes you ignorant and doomed to allow those mistakes to be repeated.
Actually the US paid $ 25 million for it. A bargain back then.
Nope you're wrong.
Polk sent a liaison to offer $25 million to Mexico, they refused, we declared war, we won, the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed, and we gave Mexico $18 million for what is now the southwest.
Even a better bargain.
If you think paying money after killing, raping, and plundering a country is a bargain.
The USA is turning into a third world country simply because the leaders of our people have voted God out of our society, and for no other reason. He won't intrude where He's not welcome. There is one solution only, and that is Jesus Christ being the one who guides each of our lives, and our nation as a whole. Of course, I realize many don't want to hear that.
All the laws we have on the books prove we can't legislate happiness or safety or blessings. God alone is our source of blessings. Kick God out of America, and His blessings go with Him, and we're seeing it: when He removes His protection from us we have disasters, fires, hurricanes, tornados, floods, sickness, unrest, and everything else that is bad.
Psalm 144:11-15, Psalm 33:12, Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
Really, lack of religion?
You do realize that when it comes to war and genocide, religion is the #1 cause of death, right? Followed closely by patriotism.
The concepts of God and country have sent hundreds of millions to their graves.
As for us being smited by the Almighty...
did the dinosaurs go extinct because of a lack of faith? Was an asteroid their punishment?
Oh wait, you probably don't believe in dinosaurs.
Danger, If the southwest had remained in Mexican control then the Hispanics that were on the land would not have prospered like Americans. They would be part of the starvation you speak of. Why would southwestern and western Hispanics want to allow Mexican influence into their politics when it is aparent that the Mexican model is one of curruption and fascism?
hey bart you to dig faster if you want to get mexico.,there on to you..
stop the stupid drug war think of the taxes we could make with 700 tons.
alcohol is america's real problem drug
america is so stupid
The problem is that our county's government makes money off of the drug trade via the CIA. Where do you think all the funding for black-ops comes from?
The drug war will never end because it is really a class war...
and the class war has been going on for centuries.
The wall realy does work rather well.
...as it did in Berlin.
,
a thousand splendid suns
Well put.
What else is new? I heard this story for over 10 years now. The border agents close off the tunnels, the drug cartels make new ones. It is nothing but a vicious cycle. It will never end unless we take Mexico itself.
What do you mean by "take Mexico"?
We already took half of it in a war we started.
Take the rest of it. Even it is by force.
...and all of it's problems too? How are we going to afford that when we can barely keep our own country afloat?....
or are you trying to be cute?
Maybe both.
I'm so sick of these stories, illegal drugs will never be stopped. The media is so biased on this topic especially the topic of legalization of marijuana. They try to sensationalise the story by showing the cops at work,and the DEA who cares.Let marijuana be legal tax it and let law enforcement fight the heavier drugs.If we legalize marijuana these cartels will no longer pose a threat to this country.Lets see how long this story lasts on this web page since every time they report about legalization of weed the story seems to disappear rather quickly.
Time to bring in the "drones" and notify Mehico that it's citizens will be shot if entering the US illegally. That is their own rule for their southern borders.
...and we want to be just like them, right?
Within that rule of law, Absolutely!!!
Shooting unarmed civilians is not "within the rule of law"...
as a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that's a "crime against humanity".
damn liberal opinion. You dont get it do you. illegal aliens are not civilians, and should be treated as criminals like drug and human traffickers. Go hug a tree!
They are human beings just like you and me. The fact that our government labels them with some legal term doesn't change that fact.
Why are you so hateful?
Sounds like we can all go party and live at Dangers house. And if he shoots us or hits us or tries to force us to move out, we can just tell him we are all human beings and deserve to live there.
If they ever pass the amnesty for the millions of illegal immigrants from mexico, they will have the best drug trafficing network ever.
They won't need to smuggle but instead manufacture within the U.S.
Please join anti amnesty groups and defeat this important legislation that's coming soon.
Legalize and tax, and 80% of your worries will vanish.
At least then you will have some control.
They found that out during the alcohol prohibition.
Land Mines, No since a lot of our jobs like Levis and Wrangler Jeans , and a whole bucnh of car parts have been shipped down there we can't offend them huh? Or maybe if we did they'd stop making your favorite Chocolet mix...Yep, Land Mines, Blow'um the hell up
ditto
So when families try to cross the border you want their women and children blown to bits?
Aren't there enough limbless people in Vietnam and Korea thanks to American patriotism?
This drug industry reveales a few problems:
First in this economy the drug abusers are willing to cough up much needed cash to support their habit. A lot of that cash maybe tax paid SS money or unemployment cash etc.
Second this reminds me of what the British Empire tried to do to China to gain commercial dominance on that nation. She grew opium in India and addicted the Chinese all the way up to the royalty. They would have won over a drugged out population, if not for the Boxer rebellion.
Thirdly the ingenious ways that the current drug cartel basically run by Mexicans can also be used in an uprising or to support the other cause of "La Raza". If the drug smugglers can enter the US no matter how we try to thwart them then they are developing the seed elements of guerrila warfare and we are not recognizing a military in the making.
Just some more good stuff from our "friends" south of the border in addition to tens of millions of illegals, the swine flu, gang wars and border killings (on the U.S. side).............thanks for all you do.
This is the most lawless area short of Afghanistan or Pakistan.
If you want to quell the flow of illegal drugs and keep from supporting the bad guys, you need to look at history. We had prohibition and with it, lots of guns and crime, tax evasion, etc.
If you want to take the glamour away from drugs, you must first take the money. Take the money and what is the attraction? How do you take the money? Legalize the stuff. There are no walls tall enough, no fences high enough, and no glass bubbles strong enough to prevent the flow of drugs/money into the US.
Capitalize on the opportunity. Tax it senselessly.
Require federal consensus on age allowance to purchase drugs. 18-21 with ID that has Social Security #, Thumb Print, Picture, and current address. Require renewal every year.
When you purchase drugs, (any drugs, heroin, pot, pills, all of it) require presentation of the ID and swipe it through a electronic terminal much like a credit card machine. The data is downloaded at the end of the night and cross referenced with all licensing agencies, Pilot license, Subway Operators, Train Operators, Truck Drivers, teachers, etc. It also cross references all on indigent programs. This includes all welfare, student loan, student aide, Pell Grant, College assistance, housing, food stamps, unemployment, Medicaid/medicare, and any other government assistance. Social Security should not be considered if you worked for it and earned it.
Now, with each nightly download, the data is matched with people receiving benefits because they claim they can't afford their needs> If you have matched to any of the programs or licensing programs, you are immediately suspended. To reapply for the license you must complete 180 days of Drug Therapy, (paid for via taxes captured in the sale). Once you have completed the therapy, you may reapply for the license and submit to drug testing every 30 days for 6 months and then every 6 months thereafter if you are allowed back into the field you are required to be licensed in. If you were receiving any government aide, you must complete the same therapy and be subject to the same drug testing. Any person that needs government assistance is like a minor under the roof of their parents home. You must live by the rules and that is that. If you prove you can't afford your basics in life, that indicates you are not qualified to have adult rights, voting privilege, gun license, etc. You should be submitted to drug testing every 30 days.
Now, moving foraward. To pay for the program of therapy, we divert the sensless sums spent trying to stop the flow of drugs into the country and we send it on eduaction, therapy Clinics, and Healthcare.
On the poppy plants and opium derivatives from Afghanistan and other areas, buy the crop directly from the farmer to alleviate the middle man, ie: the Taliban, Al Quedaetc. We need the opiates for pain management and there is no cheaper way to impact the income of the bad guys.
For the stores that will sell this new tax source, place the licensing into the public sector and operation into private hands, much like the liquor store and beer store. Tax it to no end and stop spending money on intervention.
Let the insurance industry purchase the same information that goes to all of the licensing agencies and government assistance offices. Let Companies have access to these files in the process of new hire or HR management.
If you don't want the government to have those records, don't put yourself into position to be listed. If you are caught selling to a minor or anyone for that matter, and you are caught, let the government fine you hard like they think you are rich.
Basically, allow people to choose. Allow people what they feel is best for themselves but don't allow the rest of the population to endure the costs of your folly. I don't want to share in your liability. It is undeniable that drugs impair motor skills and though processes. You want a job in my company and you use drugs? I have job opportunities cleaning the bathrooms, sweeping the parking lots, all of the low wage mindless opportunities you clearly aspire when you chose drugs in this society.
If you don't like the plan, don't worry, you have a choice.
You needed to post this blather twice?
So we can spend billions on bombing people halfway around the world, billions on bailouts, and yet no one wants to spend enough to secure our own borders? It's only going to get worse. I'm just glad I don't live in AZ.
What's wrong with legalization of pot, a vastly increased border presence, and increased public safety in these lawless areas? It's just too easy for politicians to take care of, because it doesn't fit either corrupt party's MO. Reta*ded.
The problem is many fold. As long as the American people insist upon buying drugs, there will be suppliers. As long as there are huge profits to be made, lawmen will be paid off. The criminal mind finds a way. The best solution is to close off the northern and southern borders. This will reduce illegal immigration, drug smuggling and terrorists from entering the country. As out of control as Mexico is now, it is insane to keep the border open. We are only asking for trouble.
Why bother? legalize drugs, let the druggies do their thing, and die of overdoses. Let the drug dealers kill each other. We can't stop crime, the record shows is. If someone wants drugs, they will get them somehow. Stop wasting our tax money on jailing drug dealers. If they legalize and tax drugs, someone will find a way to not pay taxes on them and that will give the IRS something worthwhile to do pursuing the drug-tax evaders. Let the drug users live out their short lives unbothered , but legalize vigilante groups to eliminate those who commit crimes against non-drug users. Then spend our tax money helping and protecting law abiding CITIZENS.
The only way it will end is to make sentences mandatory even for first time users or dealers. Make the risk outwiegh the reward. Under the current system people are willing to take the risk because the laws are so lax.
Again, we have more people in prison than any other country on the planet...
incarceration has not and will not work.
Danger-D....you seem to have an answer for everyone else's posts. Perhaps you would like to share your ideas on how to solve the problem ?
the entity can not answer, as it is a "liberal" Well said anyway.
Elimination of capitalism, nationalism, national borders, ethnocentrism, religion, militaries, and currency.
Anarcho-syndicalim in short.
danger-D
Though that sounds good...you know that would never work. So what we still need are solutions that actually stand a chance of working. Any reasonable ideas ?
Why won't it work, because that's what the TV says? Maybe you should read some political theory instead of immediately discounting a concept you don't understand.
We don't need to be dependentdependant on government to care for our every need. We can provide for ourselves.
Thousands of years of different forms of government have all yielded the same thing: War, genocide, class inequalities, slavery, and atrocity.
Raging Capitalist, I love your plan! Back in the Green, We'd laugh at ourselves thinking we were the only ones to come up with a National Dope Head Registry card! We'd buy direct with pallets of currency, load it up and burn it up before it got to the States in front of our competitor's eyes! Growers always sold it to us because we'd outbid everyone else. I'm pretty sure we cut down on the length of the Beirut mess back in the 80's. That's where Walid Jumblatt and the Druise Militia continue to move P-Stan's and A-Stan's opium. Makes it's way to the Port of Lisbon, Portugal (where dope is legal) Jumblatt pays for Portugal's dope user headaches as part of his operational costs. The bought and paid for Portugese government closes it's eyes with an extended hand for cash while the dope boats head west to feed America's dopeheads. Been there, seen it, done it. Nothing like good old experience talking here! I'd vote for you, dude!