Realtomd, I agree wholeheartedly!!! If he doesn't agree with this culture, GTF OUT!!! You don't complain about the job you were GIVEN or the money you are making!!

What kind of job does this IDIOT have in which he is not smart enough to understand the consequences of HIS ACTIONS!!! HE brought the family here!! He allowed the family to grow up in this 'westernized' society. If you don't like it LEAVE!!!!! GO BACK TO YOUR 'NON-WESTERN' WORLD! Stop collecting your money and GO!! Can it be any simpler?

Note to Employer: BETTER SCREENING OF YOUR EMPLOYEES. What kind of educated (or non) idiots do you have at your company that hires in people who DON'T LIKE YOUR SOCIETY; but LOVE getting your money?!?!?

so all christians are responsible for the murder of abortionists? and no Jew or Christian ever beat their child for not following the family religion? your going to try to say that the muslim religion is somehow diffrent from the others? no christian ever abused their child because thay were gay? go take your generalizations somewhere else. try viewing people as individuals.

You don't have to be a terrorist to beat people up. Plenty of non-muslims beat up their family.

This is domestic violence, not terrorism.

If a person who claimed to be a God fearing Christian and went to church every week, ran over his daughter who was not following his traditional values, would you send all Christians out of the country?

This man is not a representative of that religion. He ran over children.

Don't judge 1.57 billion people for the actions of killers.

The US drew Native Americans into concentration camps, or just executed them on the spot.

Don't even begin to start claiming that this country has the moral high ground.

Don't get me wrong though, this nation has potential, as do it's people. We cannot claim any superiority, especially those who call themselves Christian (you acknowledged that fact the day you became one).

It's time to practice what we preach.

Find the dad, convict him, and after he serves his time, deport him immediately with no discussion. Revoke his citizenship if he bothered to do that.

Jeff, PLEASE! No other religion has a standard policy called HONOR KILLING! How often do you here about any other religion killing their own flesh and blood over the stupidest things.

Of course Islame is different. And for you to sit there with blinders on pretending it's not, is the pinnacle of ignorance.

Here is something to think about....How long will it take before the laws start changing to satisfy people like HIM...for example...take God out of our culture...WAKE UP PEOPLE.

His daughter was Americanized and he did not it. He thought she was westernized. I am amazed that these foreigners come her and think that their family will not be changed.

jeff,

We're not talking generalizations here. It is simply their culture and instinct (Sharia law). Stop trying to defend a group just because someone else did something equally repulsive. The way you make it sound, since some so-called "christians or jews" did something awful, it should be ok to let muslims do what they want. STOP BEING A MORON!!! NOT IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

Women of the U.S.A.,

You need to be deeply concerned about his threat from Islamic believing men. As more of these individuals enter this country, they are looking to procreate with american-born women. In their culture once a woman marries them, in their eyes, the woman and all birth children automatically become muslims. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL! Everyone in this country needs to open their eyes to this threat from the Islamic religion! Say what you want about other religions if you must but this is the ONLY one whose purpose is to literally take over the world. Some may say that radical islam is more an ideology than religion. I say, how can you tell the difference? Which muslims do you trust and which ones you don't? I certainly cannot tell and I'd venture to guess no one else can either.

Several years ago in St. Louis a "traditional Islamic" mother and father murdered their 16-year-old daughter for much the same reason. Both wound-up on death row. I agree: if you don't like our culture then return to your own.

Ok, Concerned American. How many Honor killings does it take for this practice to represent the cult of Mohammad.

Do I need to go to a site like jahadwatch and copy and paste a list of how many times this happens? It's would be one thing if this was the exception, instead of the norm. But it's not. This is standard practice for these animals who follow a barbaric religion.

When women in Sauda Arabia can drive cars, and have equal rights, I will change my opinion. For now, I think I'll just go to another web site and see how many women in Iran have been stoned to death this year alone for being raped. Such a wonderful religion of pieces.

First of all, I want to repudiate everyone on this thread who has come out against Muslims because, supposedly, they can't tell a "peceaful Muslims" from another who is not "peaceful".

You got to have your head stuck all the way up your behind not to be able to tell the difference.

Having said that, the US should make it clear, very clear, to anyone in the US that if they're willing to kill a family member just becaue they don't conform to the culture they come from the perpretator should be put to death.

If you want to put an end to all these "honor" BS, then there's no choice but to instill the fear of death on the motherf'rcks who think they're doing God a favor.

A Concerned American - 1776:

This man is not a representative of that religion.

Actually he does represent what is considered a legitimate means of action in his religion. This is the same religion that says to kill all non believers. Why do you think al qaeda is trying to kill off all the non believers that they can? They believe in Sharia Law. The fundamentals of the Qu'ran.

Here is an article about a young woman who turned from Islam to Christian.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33173

She ran away in fear of her life. Girl runs away in fear of her life, another girl gets run over by father in attempt to kill her, another in New York gets murdered by her father, uncles and cousins because she goes out with boys.

It is definitely a pattern from the Muslim religion. To say so otherwise is foolish and disingenuous.

Leigh14....I don't know or care what you practice but if some jerks like Jim "I'm God" Jones or Pedaphile Priests think they are above the Law....What do you think a Radical Culture can accomplish.

These people do not value life and the world would be better without them!!!

Changing your religion although not specifically mentioned in the Qu'ran can be punishable by death.

From Wikipedia:

Some prominent contemporary examples of death sentences threatened or issued for apostasy include Abdul Rahman, an Afghan convert to Christianity who was arrested and jailed on the charge of rejecting Islam in 2006 but later released as mentally incompetent.

I believe he was allowed to move to England as part of the deal to prevent his being killed in Afghanistan.

I agree with Realtormd, if you can not follow the laws of this country then get the hell out. Throw his a$$ in jail and deport him or withdraw his citizenship. Why the heck did he come here in the first place? To kill your own child ... jeez what kind of looney tunes do we allow in our country.

realtormd, you hit the nail on the head. He can go back to Iraq if he doesn't want his children to become US citizens and embrace this country, go home.

It is so hard to separate religion from custom especially when the two are so closely tied, but making that separation is what makes us Americans.

In his Muslim heart he might believe that his daughter has become "too Westernized" but he has no basis to act on that belief here in the US.

We need to keep this in mind with the other stories of brutality when we travel to the middle east.

If this country did not have moral high ground many posters would not be able to post without having to face consequences of a political nature.

Esam

Having said that, the US should make it clear, very clear, to anyone in the US that if they're willing to kill a family member just becaue they don't conform to the culture they come from the perpretator should be put to death.

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Wow, do you realize you said they are willing to kill someone for not conforming to their own culture then turn around and said they are not conforming to our culture so they should be put to death. Seems to me you are not thinking what you are saying just spouting off. I think it is all horrible but you are just as bad and thinking the same way as "THEY" are.

i never in any way said what he did was OK all i was trying to ask is that we dont condem all muslims due to the acts of a few. i then used other religions as examples of why we shouldnt hold all who have faith responsible for the few zelots.

And we wonder why we cannot seem to get along with the Muslims.

Jeff = Muslim/Islam sympathizer

ha thats funny, i love people. i hate religion. i guess im only supposed to have sympathy for those who dont need it?

hey Concerned American, fast forward about 125 years, this isn't the 1880's, it's 2009. It's time to quit bringing up the past transgressions or we'll never get to the "high road."

I have to agree with you. So many faiths, such as extreme Conservative Muslims, come to this country for a better life and freedom. However, once achieved, they expect their women to remain "third world" in behavior and dress. For years, I have read stories of parents killing, maiming and hurting their daughters who seek a better lifestyle, marrying outside their culture, or seek out another faith (especially Christianity). Husbands murdering ex-wives, who tired of the abuse, divorced the men, etc.

The fact is, you can't come to this country, financially strip it of it's resources and expect there not to be some modernization in your family. In essence, this man is still attempting to force his personal beliefs on a grown, adult woman. She may be his daughter, however, this is not Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, etc. Women here have the right to change, improve and choose the lifestyle they want. This father is a leech, only here in America to financially drain it of it's resources, while spitting on America's customs, and freedoms. I don't think this country will miss this jerk. If he finds America and it's ways so offensive, send him back to his own country and let him deal with his personal problems there.

This is my real issue with Muslims, most are good, honorable people. However, how do you tell the decent ones from the crazies? Regardless, of your personal beliefs toward Muslims, there is a REAL threat toward America and American's worldwide by the "Jihad". Muslim Extremists come into this country and do their best to blend in - just waiting for the instruction to attack.

There was even an article regarding a Muslim Mosque in New York, whose congregation was split in two. Why? Because half the Muslim's agreed with the AL-Qaida plane attacks on 9/11 and half the Muslim congregation found it objectionable. You see, even decently treated Muslims here in America aren't always loyal to this country.

How do you tell which are ticking time bombs waiting to go off and another "Oklahoma Federal Bombing" or "Airplane Hijacking" might happen-all for the Muslim concept of Jihad?

Amazing, so many that are in one sentence bashing this man for his twisted beliefs and his intolerance towards his ADULT daughters way of life and then turning around and completely showing a lack of respect for someone elses way of life. You are no better than him. All you are is one short drive away from being his equivalent. Right, and Beck and Limbaugh are the ones that drive hate speech? Try listening to those that seem to get off on bashing religious beliefs.

This guy should be caught, tried, and deported! And that goes for anyone else, regardless of their nationality and whether they will or wont be killed when they get back to wherever the hell they came from. Break our laws you are out and we will imprison you for life if we catch you back here again.

Radicals come out of all organized religions. This is no different that the lunatic who shot the doctor as he entered his church because he did not agree with him on the right of abortions. This should not be allowed in ANY civilized society. Catch this man, try him, put him in jail for attempted murder.

But don't condemn ALL Muslims for this man's action. Or we must condemn ALL radical fundamentalist christians. That does not work for me.

Zealots are in all religions, condemning an entire group is foolish. Cause next time it might be someone from your religious group. Think about it.

Here is an article about a young woman who turned from Islam to Christian.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33173

I think that this young lady (referenced in this post above) will be found to have been brainwashed by a so called christian cult preacher and her family is going to be vindicated. That's what I am seeing on my local TV channel. You might want to check other sources on this

Jeff:

You should read up on muslim culture/religion then. Perhaps the western world has tamed the radical behavior somewhat, for those who live here, but in general, muslim women are treated like dirt...arranged marriages, little to no education and women are treated as property of men.

Maybe you can google that horrific video, which was recorded on a cellphone, where an entire village of men gathered and waited for a 14 year old girl to come home from school. As she neared her home, the men yelled slurs, cheered and then stoned the girl to death because she 'dishonored' her family. If you think that is unusual...then you'd be wrong. These actions towards women are part of the culture and they don't belong in any civilized society.

I'm sorry, but your reasoning about "other religions" is lame! I cannot think of one other religion, at least in the 21st century, which promotes and condones such disgusting actions.

As if by magic, I saw the headline about a father attempting to murder his daughter because she was too "Westernized" and somehow predicted the shocking conclusion that Islam would be involved.

I know, who could have guessed, right? Maybe I'm psychic!

Yet another contribution to world culture from the religion of peace.

Another sign of the refusal of muslims to assimilate into our society.

It's sickening to read that some of the posters here think that comparing islam to other belief systems is apples to apples and are always bringing up the past. islam hasn't changed for thousands of years while Christianity for example has moved beyond the dark ages.

Also, islam is not a religion, it is a sociopolitical system that is determined to overtake, like a cancer, any host country. It simply occurs gradually and quietly every time we make a concession to their cultural demands. This type of incident in the article will continue. No amount of jail time, death penalties, deportation or anything else will stop it. It's all about how they perceive honor. Believers in sharia do not belong in any civilized country because islam is a real threat, a disease.

I knew a Pakistani woman in San Francisco who still had a friend of hers in London forward a letter every week to her parents in Pakistan talking about her wonderful orthodox life in London. They kept asking her to bring them to England. She lived (and doubtless still lives) in terror that her mother and relatives would find out she didn't wear a head scarf and went to the beach in a bikini. She told me they would behead her, bury the body and tell everyone, "Oh, she went home."

That phrase, "Oh, she went home." is a code phrase that means the girl/woman was murdered.

She didn't fear dying so much as the pain of having her head cut off with a kitchen knife. Said it can take a while because the knives aren't sharp enough and they want it to hurt. First they cut the windpipe though so that nobody can hear the girl screaming. Said they do it over the bathtub. Sounded to me like she or someone close to her had seen it done.

No need to comment. You said it all.

They're crazier than loons!

How do you tell which are ticking time bombs waiting to go off and another "Oklahoma Federal Bombing" or "Airplane Hijacking" might happen-all for the Muslim concept of Jihad?

Who wants to explain to Therese in NV that the OKC bombing was planned and carried out by a white, American-born, American-raised Christian?

Unlucky in FL

jeff,

We're not talking generalizations here. It is simply their culture and instinct (Sharia law). Stop trying to defend a group just because someone else did something equally repulsive. The way you make it sound, since some so-called "christians or jews" did something awful, it should be ok to let muslims do what they want. STOP BEING A MORON!!! NOT IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

wow no wonder you're unlucky in Florida!

Since you have no clue about Islam you don't have the right to make accusations simply because the biased media is waging a subversive war against Islam for the last 30 years.

Sharia law isn't necessarily even islamic. It's the same garbage that was propagated all across europe during the Spanish Inquisition. It's a terrible interpretation of Islam that is just medieval and makes no sense outside of developing nations much less anywhere.

I'm not condoning that interpretation, but obviously you take the enough time to henpeck a bunch of nonesense without actually doing the slightest bit of legwork by going to google and performing a search outside of biased points of view in your favor.

What that guy did to his daughter should put him on a direct path to death row, but shouldn't be a reason for religious and political fundamentalists to come out of the cracks of society and wage their holy war on our soil because of some nutjob and his wacked out interpretation of his religion brought havok to his family.

Europe has had the same issues with the Turks and northern africans who have immigrated and committed crimes using their ideology as an excuse, but the europeans have figured out a way to hold immigrants accountable for their actions. Using the media to vilify a large swath of the world's population is just hyppocritical and accomplishes nothing except incite more violence.

Lots of families in this country have physically abused their daughters for their behavior western or eastern. The guy in the article was clearly deranged because there are plenty of immigrants that follow their old world views and use it as an excuse for their manic depressive behavior.

Totally agree! If he does not want his daughter become "westernized" go back to his country. This is AMERICA, SO TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT! We have freedom in this country but not to be stupid!

YES! Indeed! They have their rules, we have ours! Don't like it? GO BACK where you belong!

There is no need to overdramatize the religious/political issues. He broke our laws, and he should be punished accordingly.

Are many Muslims more extreme in their treatment of women than we are used to? Yes, but they have their culture and we have ours. While we may think they are backwards to practice their customs, they think we are much too permissive and they see us as morally lacking.

Who is right is in the eye of the beholder.

Denmark had to face this problem with its Muslim immigrants (many taken in as a "humanitarian gesture"). What they found was that these immigrants, accounting for under 5% of the population, accounted for over 40% of the welfare recipients, and over 60% of the crime (with huge predominance - over 90% - in crimes such as rape). Denmark finally decided that, as a condition of being allowed to move into Denmark, you had to show your commitment to Danish values. You know, basic stuff like you couldn't enslave your women or kill them if they "dishonored" you. What a shocking notion! A country which believes it has the right to protect the cultural heritage which supposedly made it attractive to these immigrants in the first place!

More places in the West should try that. As the writer above said, if he doesn't like what the West stands for, maybe he shouldn't have moved to the West. If he likes life in a backward, feudal country, then stay there. Don't bring your backward, feudal notions over here. That's not "racist". That's freakin' common sense.

Anticipate the response of our glorious elected and non-elected leaders to accept Shira law in "limited" cases. There is a reason that societies die after losing their national identities.

Clearly this mans version of "Iraqi" values places the value of life somewhere near the bottom. Nice moral code eh?

JustForStarters

Jeff:

You should read up on muslim culture/religion then. Perhaps the western world has tamed the radical behavior somewhat, for those who live here, but in general, muslim women are treated like dirt...arranged marriages, little to no education and women are treated as property of men.

you just described hinduism, orthodox judaism or the southern US. Take your pick.

F-ing A-hole....

He needs to be hung up by his nards...

I wonder if the parents could have emancipated themselves from the girl and forced her to no longer use the family name? You know like the deviant kids do when their parents don't accept their lifestyle choices and become emancipated from their parents.

Only seems fitting that you should be able to completely absolve yourself of all liabilities, relationship connections, and scenarios wherein an errant, degenerate, disobedient, disgraceful or otherwise unsavory child can benefit from your family name or fortune or soil your good name.

All he did here was dent a perfectly good car and get an assault (attempted murder charge). His actions did make an impact on her understanding his committment to his beliefs.  

If these people don't like our country and the way we live our lives then they need to go back to their native country and stay! I have had enough of these butt f..ks!!!!! It is time to put an end to it!!

jeff-813425 Curious why you attack only religious groups.

Some crackhead that doesn't believe in god or want children would never beat or hurt their kid? And a steroid pumped athiest man-girl would never hit his deviantestic partner. Only church people would do these horrific acts. And of course the deviants that are inseminated and claim the kid has no father aren't lying either.

I am quite sure this girl knew of the danger of her actions. Play with fire expect to get burned. I'm sure papa didn't see her take the garbage out without a suri on and mow her down. And for you goofs that might tell me her religion doesn't allow or wear suri's I don't really care it is for illustrative purposes only and is not a representation of her actual lifestyle. She likely egged it on and expected her dad to just take it, become more tolerant, discard all his beliefs, and become westernized too! He clearly chose not to do so even after he voted for Obama.

Unlucky in FL:

Some may say that radical islam is more an ideology than religion. I say, how can you tell the difference? Which muslims do you trust and which ones you don't? I certainly cannot tell and I'd venture to guess no one else can either.

While I certainly don't agree with their ideology; who do you trust is a pretty vague statement. You could make the same case about any group, especially political or Christian!!!

He should be brought to trial convicted for murder if she dies like everyone else, but with either no parole or execution. What he did is inexcusible and should be treated as such. If he did not want his family to become Westernized, he should have stayed in Iraq!!! He has no right to exercise his laws here in this country!!!

I'm still trying to figure out what makes Islam a religion. I know they call it one, but the only thing we see is thuggery. It seems like it is nothing but an excuse to keep people under control. Look at all the Muslim nations. No one has freedoms, especially women. There are no fair trials. No freedoms to disagree. Everyone who disagrees is an infidel. Punishment is barbaric.

One requirement, in my mind, of a valid religion is the acceptance of other religions. It's fine and dandy to believe what you want. But, the beleif that everyone else must believe the same thing makes it something other than religion. Every place where Muslims have spread out, there has been problems. And they have succeeded in getting most of the governments to buy their line that everyone else must restrict their rights in favor of not offending Muslims. Sorry, but this is getting old. If we keep it up, we'll kill ourselves. Time to require Muslims who want to work here to comply with job requirements. If you drive a taxi, you take everyone, not just those carrying things you want to carry in your taxi. If you work in a store that sells pork and/or booze, you handle it. This isn't a matter of a minor religious accomodation. This is about fairness to all employees and allowing businesses to run efficiently. Most everyone in western society has learned to check their religion at the door when they go to work. Muslims need to too. Otherwise, let them start their own businesses and give their employees as much time as they want to pray, or whatever.

To Concerned American, crud that happened hundreds of years ago is no defense of this guys actions today. Stupid rationalizations like that are part of the problem today and comment negatively on your intelligence.

I understand that there are differences in religions, etc. But this family is in this country. My brother-n-law is in Iraq right now. He cannot go to church or talk about it or have a Bible, etc. It is the law there and he abides by it even though he doesn't believe in it. When in Rome do as the Romans do. You must follow the laws of the country you reside in. In this country it is illegal to run over your daughter because she doesn't act like you do. If you can't abide by the laws here then you leave here. It is very simple.

Unlucky in FL -

Your facts aren't exactly right. In Islam the children take the religion of the mother. Same as in Orthodox Judaism.

Although I agree that this pig should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, it should not be because of his beliefs. Rather, for his heinous action regardless of who/what he worships.

Boy, Jeff, you took quite a beating on this one! So, I am going to put in my two cents worth as well. You mention that this guy is a bad apple that doesnt represent all Muslims. You also indicate that Jews and Christians have done similar things. Just like Fox news, you havent said anything that is wrong, but you have misrepresented the facts nonetheless. Most hard core Muslim countries have laws that we consider barbaric. Women are generally treated like slaves. And, when things like 911 happen, you see them celebrating. All that tells me that we in America (Jew, Christian, Atheist, or whatever) dont have much in common culturally with Muslim countries. In fact I think this Muslim "dad" is probably a pretty fair representative of his culture. You couldnt say the same thing of a Jew, Christian, or Hindu that ran their kid down for being too 'westernized.' In summary, Jeff, I think you deserved your beat down.

Religion aside, the man broke the law and should be punished. Religion is not a justification for running over anyone.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

This double standard of complying to laws and customs is infuriating.

If you visit Saudi Arabia and you open a beer in public, you will be arrested and sentenced to a public whipping. It does not matter if you knew what you were doing was illegal or not.

And Jeff, if a Christian or Jewish or Bhuddist ran down a kid for "acting like a Westerner", we would not make excuses for that person, we would call that person mentally ill.

Jeff = Muslim/Islam sympathizer

A whinny one at that.

How many Honor killings have we seen in America this year alone. We have the Texas father that shot his two daughters. The New York man that decapitated his wife, this guy running over his daughter. Can anyone think of any others? They clearly can't adhere to our laws and choose to bring their religious laws with them. If they can't leave their sharia BS back in the old country, they should come here.

Islam is a garbage religion that seems to be open to too much interpretation. It should be irradicated. It's the only, supposedly, religion that calls for the death of everyone that don't abide by it and give virgins to those that kill non-muslims. Islam is a godless religion.

And for the love of Pete, would people please stop saying the Bible also allows honor killings? Yes, the Old Testament allows that, but Christians are supposed to follow the New Testament. You know, the teachings of Christ. Jesus---Christ---Christ---Christian---get it?

I like what oldefarte said, but this is America, where the PC police get you for thinking like that.

My brother told me the first thing he learned at law school was that America is the only country in the world where the needs of the one are more important than the needs of the many.

Bet this TOWEL HEAD owns a grocery store the Fed Goverment gave him money to buy. If the towel heads in this count are not citizens send me to North Korea. Maybe they will like the mud pies that are the man course for the poor class. I'm sure they won't get any money from them Nuts.

You can take the man out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the man!

JW...

Good try slipping that in about Fox news. Too bad you are mistaken. You think ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc. report an unbiased truth? ROFLMAO!

I say just plain GTF out. With a bullet in your head, also. An eye for an eye is an Eastern idea. Let's implement that one for our "Eastern friend!"

If you were to move to lets say Asia or Europe or Africa, would you change your american tradition and follow whatever tradition that was in that particular region or would you continue to follow your original culture? im pretty sure you would stick to your own tradition and not change who you are just because you moved to a different country. You are clearly a selfish person.

Jaz,

Sticking to traditions is one thing, killing someone is another. If I move overseas I have to obey their laws or accept the punishment. If he didn't like US law he SHOULD HAVE LEFT. It isn't like we are short of people wanting to move here.

Maybe the same can be said to those Americans living in Saudi Arabia! If you don't like the fact that women can't drive, that women wear niqba's from head-to-toe, that women aren't allowed to travel alone nor without the permission of their father/husband, then get the hell out!

How sad for Noor--I hope she recovers fully.

And I hope that, as an adult who grew up in this great country, she pursues the right she has to see him punished, and seeks a charge of first degree attempted murder against her father--because that's what he tried to do.

Koatz,

I have no problem saying that Americans should stay out of SA if they don't like the customs.

I hope this moron is caught and his daughter survives. One thing we sure don't need is the f**ked up values of some of the Middle Eastern cultures. In particular since this young woman at 20 is an adult. Trying to teach your children to have your values while they are in your house is one thing, trying to force them on them or kill them because they don't as adults is quite another and should net him a few years with Sheriff Joe!!

To ever think or hope that your children won't adapt to the life style around them is so unbelievable absurd and far fetched. And any parent which thinks that they come here, live and then sell off or control their child's life is living under some delusional pipe dream. A growing number of these people are committing these crimes, and everyone that's under U.S. jurisdiction-well thank god for that.

Lol>>>maybe he should have tried 60 lashes first.

He should have moved back to Iraq and stayed there to raise his family!!

He should rot in jail!!! I am so sick of muslims/people who leave their country of origin and then complain about the new country they chose to live in!!!

Sharia is a muslim law, not an American law!!! It does not belong in my country!!!

God Bless the USA!

Exactly, if the idiot moves here he lives by our rules! He should never see the light of day again.

The dad needs to be forced to stand before the nation as an example of what can happen in immigration situations, especially from backward societies like his, and as an example of what we do not tollerate here. It should then be used as a training exercise for anyone from anywhere who applies for citizenship or a long term visa. He then should be very publicly and visibly punished for his crime against civilization.

Unlucky in FL wrote of muslim men in the USA: "they are looking to procreate with american-born women. In their culture once a woman marries them, in their eyes, the woman and all birth children automatically become muslims. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL! Everyone in this country needs to open their eyes to this threat from the Islamic religion!"

UNLUCKY, if that is a fact, where does that put the current resident in the american white house who had TWO muslim fathers?

is there something on his original birth certificate that would indicate he is a "natural born MUSLIM"? when he applied at harvard etc. did he fill some sort of quota for diversity which included muslim? WHY are his records sealed?

when the current resident made such a grandiose welcome for days and days and weeks of ramadam to the muslims and ignored the ONE CHRISTIAN day of PRAYER, what message was he trying, and succeeding at sending to the middle-east along with the USA Christians?

If you DON'T think Obama is Moslem you are really decieving yourself.

If you DON'T think Obama is Moslem you are really decieving yourself.

And if you do think he is, you are a gullible fool.

Oh, please. He has had a year to pick a church and hasn't yet but has been seen all over catering to Islamic groups. Aren't there enough churches in the DC area. If you claim to be Christian act like it.

You just watch --

Just like England is having to bow down to shira law, the U.S. will too.

He'll be prosecuted just like anyone else, what's the issue folks? Whether Muslim, Christian, Hindu, or Buddhist all are expected to uphold the law in our secular country and are punished accordingly when they don't.

Andrew, Secular law.

Does Secular law mean that elementary and high schools through to the universities have either wash basins installed for muslims or allow muslims to go to pray when they want to, but Christians can not say a prayer in school? Does Secular only refer or apply to Christians?

Skeeter-841827, is there an example of this situation in England like a news story or court case?

lk in la,

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece#

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece#

That was the first link that came up with a search on msn search engine using England Sharia Law. There are plenty more.

The problem, Andrew, is that the vast majority of these murders are never reported or prosecuted. A girl/woman simply disappears. If anyone outside the cult asks where she is they just say, "She went home." (To Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, wherever.)

No report, no evidence, no case.

Andrew:

With the Justice System in America, just like the Terrorists potentially, being tried in our Criminal Courts from Gitmo, they will do nothing to punish this Father for his Islamic beliefs..

American Courts respects all religious practices.

I know how we can punish that POS. We can feed him pork for every meal!

cathy1carp, I second that motion!

Skeeter-841827

You just watch --

Just like England is having to bow down to shira law, the U.S. will too.

how is england bowing down to islam? Get your facts straight for once!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215241/Police-told-treat-hundreds-attacks-honour-crimes.html

Police told to treat hundreds more attacks as 'honour' crimes

Hawaii, of course they won't punish him for his beliefs. Here in America we're free to believe whatever silliness we want. He will be prosecuted for the illegal actions of which he is guilty.

Fairchild, there's no double standard. Christians are free to pray in classrooms and on school property, school officials simply can't lead the prayer, and it can't be disruptive to the class activities. Schools are not required to provide washrooms, just as the school cafeteria is not required to provide Kosher meals. If a liberal school board chooses to provide washrooms that's their choice, but they're certainly not required to. Also if they did, they would also be required to perform similar facilities for any other religious groups that requested them since they cannot endorse one group over another.

The Islamists are probably eating a lot of Pork in their meals, and don't know it, here in the United States.

McDonald's mixes their hamburger meat with pork sausage.

Pork them to their stalls. They should fast for an entire year celebrating Ramadan.

Something tells me, Tyler, that you're going to be doing a lot of deleting on this thread!

microsoft sucks = Muslim/Islam sympathizer

You and Jeff must belong to same sympathizer club.

Tyler:

I hope you don't delete all the comments. Not all Islamists, are following their religious beliefs to a "T". It's the Extremists.

In America, we do not tolerate, killing our own children. That is why there has been a big uproar over this subject.

Hope you understand. Thanks.

Truthfully he can only get out it he was in a state where if she drops the charges then he walks. But there are only a few states left who still do that.

As far as what he did, (well) if he excepted his citizenship here then he excepted his fate for his actions as well.

Actually it is 71 Virgins.....unless of course there is a virgin shortage in Muslim Heaven due to all the homicide bombers going there daily......I wonder if they be going around killing young muslim virgins to replenish the supply.....

Precisely why I say: Kill 'em all and let God sort them out!

By now I think they have run out of virgins. The Muslims seen to have a fixation on sex when they brain wash others to commit suicide and have a reward with 71 virgins.

Yes, there arre innocents in Islam. The children.

Those 'children' may blow up your kid (like 9/11) one day or kill an AMERICAN soldier in a stupid WORTHLESS war. They indoctrinate them (like the Communists did)... when they are children so when they are men or women... they don't have any feelings or give a damn who they blow up.

By the way... who is dying in the Iraq and the Afgan Wars???... MOSLTY American men and women.

Tina,

Would that be the children with the suicide belts, or the children with the ak's, or the children doing lookout duty for their parent terrorists?

You're confusing your terms here, while the children may be considered 'victims' of their religion, they are not 'innocent' by virtue of what they have been taught to believe.

I meant the little children, before the parents have a chance to indoctrinate them.

None of the women are considered Virgins. They marry at young ages, unless the Koran is talking about their daughters.

Children or pre teen.

whatashame-659313 said; take him out behind the barn and waste $.50 on a 9mm... it's time for his kind of thinking to leave the planet...

How very Muslim of you...

Tina-293371

Not even the children once they start educating them in hate through Islamic education.

well lets hope not anyways Huh?

I think you mean repression, but I agree.

Sorry, I meant "oppression" : my keyboard is dying and spell check has it's limits-RS

Why don't you run for President of the USA? Then everyone can put you down as the imperfect person you are.

we currently have an islamic president

Jeebus. shouldn't you be posting on orlytaitz.com?

Denise, imperfect is a nick in your car's paint. This president is a car with a tree that has fallen on it, no, wait, a Chrysler with a tree that has fallen on it. This is not however an issue of the personal flaws of the president. Actually, from what I have seen of the man, he seems like quite a gentleman and I'm sure that on a personal level, he lives his life well. Unfortunately, he has as president made a complete turnaround from the majority of his campaign promises, and he consistently fails in his duty. He seems to feel that this office is his right, but no one who feels that way about their job can ever hope to do their best in that job. America does not have the time for on the job training of an individual, just because that person feels entitled. Now I can tell you that were I president, many, many things would change. I would go out of my way to irritate and even frighten the politically correct lemmings as they cast themselves over a cliff while this country once again became a manufacturing giant where individuals were free to make decisions about their own lives, behaviors, mates, reproductive choices. Robber barons in the form of insurance, big health, and farma, as well as failed banks would disappear overnight as their nefarious activities were abolished. The rights of individuals to protect themselves would be cast in stone. And NO ONE would come into these United States of America and try to ram their violent, extremist, ancient ritualistic culture down our throats, because then they would see that the real America, the one that I grew up in, will not tolerate that for one instant. This nation should have a technological future, but that future should be for the benefit of the individual, not a state tool of oppression. It is time for everyone to wake up in this nation and realize that the concept of the birthright went out with the 1900s. This congress and President have no more rights as human beings than do you, yet they are trying to destroy all you have built. That is a crime.

Robin:

In this country, it is they who should be the only religion on which laws are based. Are the generals listening?

Do you choose to ignore the fact that there is separation between church and state and laws are not made based on religion!!!!!!! Duhhhhh!!!!.....Perhaps you are the one who should go back to honoring the Constitution!!!!

We do not have an islamic president. What a stupid comment! And FYI, the founding fathers were members of the Masonic Lodge, very high ranking and secretive! they did not attend church.

Cjn,, pleas take a moment to re read my original post. I am suggesting, and metaphorically speaking, that the only appropriate religion for this nation is the Constitution. It has been for 2 centuries the basis for the socio-political systems of this nation, and it is the only thing that we should continue to base it upon. The separation of church and state has been eroded recently, particularly in the 80s with the moral majority, but now we have a serious threat given this white house and the massive influx of these Islamic who wish to bring their laws with them.

Lynda, thank you for your response. Let's just wait a couple of years and see how it turns out.

Robin Steele - That is one of the best posts ever written. I commend your honesty.

Regards,

Anna

Robin, Anna ,etal. OMG, you people are not only illiterate and ignorant, you're delusional. Massive influx? Islamic President? I still can't get it why there are so many idiots and brain dead people still in our society listening to the lies, half-truths and hysteria from people who are laughing at you for believing eveything they say. They are doing it for the money and the power rush (no pun intended). They know its lies and they know fools like you will parrot them. About the only thing truthful in you rants and believes is the spelling of Islam. Just go away before you and your ranting prejudices cause someone harm. You make me sick.

why are we even letting in iraqi's and afghans in at all, surely thats a danger, hmm we are at war over there so lets just let them in here, surely we must consider that some radicals will come over, some bombers etc. keep them all out,start only letting in those who will be an asset to america, notice how not many people (some yes but not a lot) from advanced countries want to come here, the only people we are letting in are the 3rd world countries, somali's, africans in general, mexicans, iraqi's etc etc, just continually dumbing down america.

If they come here with no intention of loving their new country or assimilating, then it is so obvious that they are here only to advance terrorism or try to fill up our population with muslims and turn the US into a muslim nation (they are well on their way to doing that in the UK).

Squirrel...are you saying they should do the right thing and assimilate like we did with the Native Americans? That worked out real well for them didnt it? Are you afraid the new invaders might turn out to be like us? I guess that is pretty scary!

Nope. I said exactly what I wrote. If you had read my first few words, you would have clearly seen that I was speaking of those who come here with no intention of loving or assimilating-not those who come here wanting freedom from the barbaric laws of their home country. There is a huge difference. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free" does not include "...and while you're at it, all of you are welcome who hate this land, will not be loyal to its laws, and seek to overthrow it".

This is gay bashing not cultural.

Like Obama trying to destroy FOX

This is a really bad analogy. I don't recall Obama trying to run down Sean Hannity with his limo.

No, the President hasn't tried to run down Sean yet, but he is on their "hit list".

FOX news - one of the best on TV today with only 3 or 4 commentators that are not considered liberal and the network not in the pocket of the Obama Administration, is put on a "hit list" in general as being anti-Democrat. Surely FOX news must be considered in the realm of Apostasy and therefore a threat to the Obama Administration's way of life.

I love FOX News... and Bill O'Reilly!

Obama will be great. I watched Al Franken in the hearing and he was so funny. America has become such an unfriendly place it's sad.

You know,the world would probably be better off without ANY religion. It's overrated anyway. All of the things religion was supposed to explain thousands of years ago can now be explained with science.

I couldn't agree more! Religion IS the "opiate of the masses."

No one should be able to push their beliefs and way of life on another

Does irony really escape everyone anymore?

It's worse than just spreading to the US. The Obama adminstration, within a month of entering office, authorized $100 MILLION dollars to resettle Hamas supporting Palestinians from the Gaza strip to the United States.

I guess he missed the part about them dancing in the streets on 9/11 or them strapping suicide bomber vests onto their kids and sending them into Israeli (you know OUR ALLY) restaurants to blow themselves up, or the fact that the reason Israel attacked Gaza in the first place was in response to the thousands of rockets being fired from the residential areas of Gaza by Hamas.

So yes, it is far worse than just spreading to America, our government is using OUR TAX DOLLARS to import it to America.

Lt Scrounge

Uh, you might want to check out Snopes on this one. Did you hear about this on FOX entertainment network?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/palestinians.asp

Do those of you who agree with this point of view even listen to yourselves anymore? "Force them to leave our country and kill the ones that refuse"? What if the Muslims who refuse to leave is a family of 4 - dad, mom, 2 kids. Do we kill the whole family? 90-year old Muslim woman - bullet to the skull? Single Muslim man, 35 years old, no criminal record, works 9-5? Kill him just for being different? My God, people! Quit being played by the xenophobes and listen to yourselves.

Dennis:

Do those of you who agree with this point of view even listen to yourselves anymore? Kill them just for being different? My God, people! Quit being played by the xenophobes and listen to yourselves.

Have to agree with you Dennis, some of these people are really sickos.......it's so sad what a part of America has become!! And they definately don't hear themselves even if they think they're listening; but do they bother to think at all or do they just spew??? Do they not think that just perhaps way back when their grandparents or greatgrandparents were also foreigners??? Sad!

Hear, hear Dennis.

bravo

to the last guru:

what kind of guru are you?

shame on you poopoo guru!

Scott:

If a religon makes a person compelled to kill anything or anyone it need to be shut down. You don't see Baptists blowing stuff up or killing there kids ....If that happened something would finally get done.

It's not only religion, but also idealogy!! And there have been many so called religious and/or idealogical people blow stuff up and kill others for their beliefs!!!
There are more than enough to name including the Iraq war! Have you been living on the planet Utopia for the last 50 years??? Duhhhhhhh!!!

Amen to that! We nearly got crushed by the British, but did we give up? NO WAY!

That is common sense Cygnus, and we seem to lack that now. Instead of allowing terrorists to rule their country, they run away and hide waiting for us to get rid of them. Then they'll take money hand over fist from us claiming that the United States ruined their country. Once we have brought their country out of ruin, then they'll want to run back home and denounce Americans. We have plenty of countries that have done that to us as proof. America has always opened its arms to everyone, even its enemies. It's not wise now, these countries are out to destroy us.

It's called assimilation, and the multiculturalists KNOW that if people are actually forced to assimilate, the radical leftists won't be able to drive wedges between them and use them to get elected. Teddy Roosevelt spoke out against the "Hyphenated Americans" 100 years ago, so this has been a problem for a while. He also demanded that we only use one language in this country- English. Instead we have school districts who refuse to follow state law and eliminate bilingual education. They insist on teaching that all cultures are equally good. If that were so, why didn't the tribes in sub saharan Africa develop much past the hunter/gatherer stage ? All cultures are not equal, some are superior to others. PERIOD. None are perfect, but you take the good with the bad and the ANGLO American culture has been dominant for centuries for a reason, it has simply been superior to the other cultures. Were it not for our own members trying to destroy it from within, it would remain so for centuries to come. Under America's leadership, the people of more countries have and would obtain real freedom and human rights. The left calls us an imperial country. That is BS. How many imperial countries have driven our enemies from their conquered lands and asked for no more land in repayment than we needed to bury our fallen? How many imperial countries have spent the wealth created in their own lands to rebuild the lands of our enemies after we had destroyed them? The answer is none.

Instead of teaching this, the leftists in the schools teach that

1. We are the oppressors. (lie)
2. All cultures are equal (lie)
3. The US is the cause of its own problems (lie)
4. The terrorists on 9/11 were justified (lie)
5. Mexicans have every right to enter the country (lie)
6. Illegal aliens are not breaking the law (Wrong)
7. Aliens should not be forced to speak English (Wrong)
8. Illegal Aliens are undocumented migrants (wrong)
9. Islam is just a religion (wrong, at its core it uses religion to act as a catalyst for political control. Honestly, the Catholic Church did the same thing in the middle ages, BUT they didn't have explosives or automatic weapons at their disposal so the impact wasn't as widespread.)

That last comment is WHY Islam has to be forced into a subservient role to western culture. The religion is only 1300+ years old. Think where Christianity was around the middle ages. The problem is that the rest of the world is NOT in the middle ages, while much of Islam has only progressed that far. I have no problems with Muslims who want to live and work in the 21st Century, as long as they understand that they are living in the 21st Century and LEAVE THE BARBARIC MEDIEVAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM BACK IN THE MIDDLE AGES. If they aren't willing to leave the barbaric practices of Islam in the middle ages, then they need to go back to living in the middle ages. I would wholeheartedly support a swords for AKs program in every Islamic country. If they are willing to use medieval weapons, I'm perfectly willing to allow them to practice their medieval culture in THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.

Lt Scrounge

Absolutely! Well said.

sciencequeen: "Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" (Sorry...channeling John Belushi)

Well said Lt. Islam is growing in the US and already demanding along with the illegal alien. Time to VOTE our so called leaders out of office in 2010 and 2012

I agree with you 100%. If you don't like our ways then GTFO and go back to the FREEDOM YOUR COUNTRY OFFERS.

Now y'all are getting a taste of what Israel is up against.

How many girls do Christian, Jewish and Hindu fathers (Among many others) kill a year for leaving their religion? It is an EVERYDAY thing under Islam.

Even evil dick made up with his gay daughter.

Jews have came a long way most no longer believe in god.

Brutal, but fair. And it will be in accordance with the Shariah law: eye for an eye type of deal. Put him under the car and have her roomate have some fun (I imagine daughter won't want to do this.)

Good point. What was he expecting? Why would anyone take their kids to a new country and then be surprised that they assimillate.

unless he is a fag. a virgin could be a male. ever think about that? that would be funny!!

Dean, lol. If that was the case, he could shack up with all of the young virgin martyrs they have blowing themselves up.

You know they never state that the virgins will be women...and having been to the middle east several times years ago I did notice these guys seem to lean left so to speak. The walk together close and hold hands together and refuse to have women next to them...sort of like west los angeles..hmmmm

you could be onto something here, its not religious jihad, its just pent up homosexual frustration.......