Is a nationwide ban on texting and using handheld mobile devices while driving a good idea?
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Is a nationwide ban on texting and using handheld mobile devices while driving a good idea?
Is a nationwide ban on texting and using handheld mobile devices while driving a good idea?
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Sad, but given the number of idiots on the road we need to legislate common sense and ban cell phone use in cars. ITS KILLING ALOT OF PEOPLE.
Although I agree there are more than a fair share of idiots and those driving without any common sense. We already have a law for people who cause a wreck while using a cellphone, adjusting the radio, picking a CD, using a CB, watching their GPS, looking at the pretty girl walking down the street, picking up a dropped lit cigarette, reading the paper, doing their make-up, fighting with the kids, fixing their hair and just not paying attention. It's called FAILURE to remain in control of your vehicle! While taking away this liberty from those of us who practice common sense will save lives, so would a law requiring everyone swimming in a pool to wear a life-vest. Anyone on a boat as well. Let's not stop there however... I think we need a law that states "No one is allowed to stick a knife into a live electrical outlet." This might save a few lives too! Point is, Liberty and Freedom come with a price. In this instant people will die every day no matter how many laws you create. It's sad truth and reality of humanity. I'm willing to enjoy my Liberty and Freedom and take my chances every day to keep them while allowing others to do the same. If you feel giving up yours makes you more secure than you deserve neither Liberty or security! P.S. The seatbelt law was the biggest violation of our liberty as it's the only traffic law on the books that your choice of wearing one or not will not cause a wreck or endanger anyone but yourself. I had always said it would have been better had insurance companies said they wouldn't pay out if you weren't wearing one rather than create a law to enforce it and take your choice away. Same could be done with cellphones. Insurance companies should step up and deny benefits if cellphone use was the cause. This still leaves you with your own freedom of choice.
It's also freedom of "choice" to yell fire in a crowded auditorium. It's against the law, but you can yell "fire", if you wish. This is exactly the same thing. "It's called protecting the greater good". I see people talking on cell phones, swerving all over the road, sitting in the middle of an 8-lane intersection not knowing which way to go, because they're too involved in conversation to pay any attention to what they're doing. I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP.
How could anyone object to this? We didn't have cell phones 25 years ago and all of us made it through the day, just fine. There are more and more people on the road today and it takes concentration to avoid accidents, talking or TEXTING (for God's sake) is the last thing we need to be doing.
It's not the same thing at all. Yelling fire when there is no fire to get a stampeed is not the same as someone using common sense or not while using a cellphone. 25 yrs ago there were and still are today Truckers and other using CB Radios. You don't think they carry on conversations? They're not outlawed. I see people every day not paying attention as you do. I'm very aware it causes accidents. It upsets me too, but I'm not for creating another law that takes the rights away from those people who can talk and drive without any trouble. This whole thing reminds me of the few bad apples at school who always got everyone else in trouble because they didn't do what they were suppose too. It just pisses those of us who can handle it off! I ride a motorcycle by the way and have for over 40 yrs... if anyone is qualified to talk about drivers without common sense and not paying attention it would be ME!
New Patriot - Your convoluted logic implies that any law designed to protect society comes second to an individuals rights to freedoms.It's the other way around, your individual rights ends when it infringes on the safety of the general public. And your BS about enjoying liberty is just crap you read from the NRA.
What I ment to say was... No this is more like arresting everyone in the auditorium because someone yelled fire! I agree, protecting the greater good in this instance should win... that being protect Liberty! What's your odds of being killed by another driver talking on a cell phone? Guessing you have greater odds of dying from a heart attack. Don't worry however we're all over it making laws what fastfood can sell to those of you without common sense. You mean eating fried foods can kill you? Noway!
No, how can this even be considered while reading the newspaper with it spread out across your windshield is still legal? Why is this being considered before banning driving while asleep, or banning driving while having sex?
My point here is that instead of banning individual actions, why not simply ban driving while distracted? Oh wait, we already did... it's called wreckless driving! The problem here isn't one of not enough laws, the problem is of cops not doing enough to enforce our current laws. Writing another law to ban what's already illegal isn't going to change anything, except it might make a few idiots feel safer as they can then go about their day thinking that the whole world will suddenly decide to follow the latest law, even though they were ingnoring the last several. Don't be so naieve.
New Patriot's first post illustrates one big problem with our society today. Americans think EVERYTHING is a right. You are NOT guaranteed the right to use a cell phone while driving. In fact, you do not have the RIGHT to drive. Driving is a privilege that is supposed to be earned--that's why it requires a license as proof that you've earned that right.
The problem here isn't one of not enough laws, the problem is of cops not doing enough to enforce our current laws.
I completely agree, especially after following a cop for over 10 miles, during which time he had a cell phone plastered to his left ear, crossed left of center into oncoming traffic to get into a turn lane, drove in the left lane, and ran a red light to get into the 7-11 parking lot. Laws are only laws if they are enforced.
I agree, but this will never work, people think the laws don't pertain to them, just look at all the people who park in fire lanes while going to stores. Nobody inforces the laws.
I agree, but so are cigarettes and chew "tobaccoaddict". Sadly, we all get to pay for those who make bad choices.
It would be too hard to enforce. How can you tell if someone is texting or dialing or just making a note in their phone.
- 5:21 am CEST on Wed Sep
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- KCComes
That's why we need some nannies, and that's why we need a law.
Flbikerchick, Driving is a privilege? It's a right I have earned! I pay for my license, I pay tax on the car I purchased, I pay tax for the gas, I pay for plates, I pay taxes for the road I drive on weather I own a car or not! I pay for manditory insurance. Heck I even pay taxes for the cellphone service you're telling me I can't even use anytime I'm behind the wheel! Which is several hours in a day! I've been driving gas powered engines since I was 4. I've passed ever test the law requires to keep an auto and motorcycle license since I was 15! I've had NO accidents or tickets since! I occasionally use my cell phone while driving. Now you and these others come along and tell me that the "privilege" I've earned and enjoyed is being taken away because a lot of people use poor judgement while using a cell phone? I don't think so! These people would still cause a wreck more than likely no matter WHAT law you passed! We already have road blocks for so called "safety checks" which is in violation of your rights and mine as we are free to travel from point A to point B in this country without being detained without cause. Pass this law and you'll see more "safety checks"(road blocks) checking to see if you have a cellphone in your car or person. Listen people I'm not here to tell you that driving while using a cellphone is safe. I'm just telling you that we already have a law for this issue and it's obviously not being inforced as people continue to show lack of common sense. Why am I so passionate about "liberity and freedom"? Last summer I was stopped trying to leave my house at 2am to make a Wendy's frosty run. I was told I couldn't leave and needed to go back in my house. Why? because 3 police officers thought I had been drinking. I don't drink! It took me 30 minutes to prove I was sober. All because they asked me where I was going and a refused to tell them. Gee, I feel safer already!
Here we go another law that the police will not be able to control. Unless they put a very heavy fine on it, it will only amount to a slap on the wrist. We have many laws on the books, what is missing is the enactment part by the policing authorities to do something about it. Don't get me wrong.. I believe that there should be a law, just the willingness of the police to do something instead of letting it go with a word of caution. One must look at drivers as young children when you tell them not to touch the stove it could be hot.. and what does the young child do? They touch the stove because they do not believe it or they are curious... You can continue to tell a person they shouldn't do something until your blue in the face, but unless you show them with meaning like a heavy fine and their insurance going up by say $500 a year for 3 years.. then the message will not be clearly sent...
For another example: Say on the street that you live people are flying up and down the street going 20-30 mph over the speed limit... if the police do not stop and give tickets out people do not get the message. In my town just on my street for one year - the police stopped over 480 drivers.. among the 480, 120 were Unlicensed drivers, 80 were uninsured drivers, 12 had warrants for their arrest, and 90 were drinking while driving, 1 was a fugitive with a gun.. there was 2 people in the same truck, that had a truck with marijuana and cocaine, and a couple of guns
This is why I would be in favor of any policy that would have the police stopping people on cellphone and texting... not because of the act itself.. it is because I would like to see the police grabbing the more offensive people..
The second choice suggests that "It will take more than a ban to get people to put away their mobile devices." I disagree. A ban will work, but only if the penalties are severe enough to get people's attention. I'd recommend a $400 - $500 fine for the first offense and seizure of the vehicle on the third one. I have to agree that it won't work if the fines are small.
If the government can't ban drunk driving, how can it possibly ban cell phone use? I don't think it will work whether the fines are big or small. My cynical feeling is that people are going to do whatever they feel like doing no matter who gets hurt or what the cost/penalty.
Drunk driving penalties aren't universally enforced with any consistency. In small rural areas, a person can easily avoid a fine if he or she "knows" the district attorney or judge. In larger cities, this isn't the case.
There are people picked up for DUI's every day and they sometimes have three or four previous citations for the same thing. Some have to serve time, some have to pay a huge fine, some lose their license for a time and others get a smack on the hands.
If we decide to punish people who talk on cell-phones, each one of us has to share in upholding this law, so that every one has the same pumishment. The parents and families of those who have been murdered by a drunk driver should demand justice. DEMAND JUSTICE for reckless cell-phone users as well.
There is no excuse.
The government does ban drunk driving but the reason people keep doing it is because all you have to do is pay a $1500 fee and you're done. Many european countries don't have problems with drunk drivers because the first time you get caught you lose your license forever. If we did that here we would have less of a problem. Same thing with cell phones. First time you get caught is a hefty fine, but if you are a repeat offender you start losing your right to drive. Talk on the cell all you want while you're on the bus.
Even though it's common sense not to drive while texting, I like having the LAW back me up when I'm ragging my kids about it. My kids are in their early to mid 20's and I've been "assured" that they only text when it's "safe". That's BS and I know it! There is nothing THAT important that needs to be immediately responded to. And, being rear ended while texting at a red light could seriously hurt the driver that didn't notice that you are sitting there texting "OMG" to your friends.
I want the cell phone companies to be accountable also. I asked T-Mobile to turn off the text reception to my phone last year and they said it wasn't possible. Sure it is, they just don't want to do it! I would have used this when my kids were younger and I had more control. I can't think of anything worse then an inexperienced driver distracted by trying to SPELL something out with their little phone!
Generally I'm against government interference in consumer/business relationships and the creation of more laws but in this case it a law would be required because unrestricted phones would put law abiding companies at a considerable competitive disadvantage. I wish there was another way. Exceptions could be made for navigation/traffic information and 911 calls.
We already have cell block tech, we just don't allow it here in the US. If GPS devices are already part of cell technology, there is no reason why they can't program the phones to disable hand held and text functions when traveling at a rate of speed above walking. You'd still be able to use your bluetooth, just no handheld or texting..
Sooooo...do we require that all phones have temperature monitors, so we know when a person is holding it in their hand? What if you live in a hot climate? The blocking technology could only be implemented if it was an expensive vehicle modification, or perhaps the phone companies could implement it by disengaging your phone if it's moving between towers at a certain rate. Neither one of those comes cheap, and in each case the consumers, ALL consumers, will pay for it.
As I said in my comment with my vote above (which was no, for lack of better options), the intent is good, but the implementation and implications are far-reaching and expensive. It's not like they can regulate and flip a switch to make this happen.
What about passengers and trains/subways? So I am on a subway and there is an emergency, can't call until the next stop?
What about passengers and trains/subways? So I am on a subway and there is an emergency, can't call until the next stop?
Unbelievable.
Missed part of my comment the first time so here we go again. Apologies to all.
Let's use a high tech solution for a high tech problem: GPS enabled phones would be easy to disable while the phone was moving beyond a certain speed and for some time delay afterwards so people won't take advantage stoplights, signs or other brief pauses in the traffic flow. Exceptions could be made for navigation, traffic information and 911 calls.
Generally I'm against government interference in consumer/business relationships and the creation of more laws but in this case it a law would be required because unrestricted phones would put companies that implemented this practice at a considerable competitive disadvantage. I wish there was another way. I prefer to let Darwin have his way but that only works if innocent people aren't put at risk.
So you would prohibit anybody in the vehicle (not just the operator) from using a cell device? That is not an appropriate technological solution. Also, GPS does not offer sufficient resolution to determine of you are in one vehicle or another, let alone one seat or another (about 15 feet resolution unless using assisted GPS).
And keep in mind, GPS also does not work unless it has a clear view of the sky....this would result in behaviours where texting would occur when in a tunnel for example, increasing the likihood of an accidnet beyond even normal conditions. Technology just isn't the amswer here - education and heavy fines are.
Fact texting and talking causes accidents an don't give me the crap about free speech! if you need to talk and drive get a hand free device! If you need to text PARK THE CAR! The fact you can not over look is we did fine for how many years with out cell phones? Is it ok to text/talk an drive an kill or mami someone because you just had to say hi to your BBF or find out who wonthe football game?What about the rights of the person who is killed or hurt due to a driver texting/talking an driving?If you hurt or kill someone while texting/talking an driveing you should face the same punishment as someone who is drunk or high.
YES! The right to the not be killed by a texting driver completely trumps the right of another to have a mobile conversation. The only people I can think of who actually require being connected 100% of the time have drivers and pilots carting them around....
All the laws in the world are not going to stop this behavior UNLESS there's a very stiff penalty, e.g. $500 - $1,000 fine. Then law enforcement has to do just that.... ENFORCE IT !!
A young girl, 17 years old, struck 2 elementary kids in a cross walk. She was texting her friends in the back seat of her car. Fortunately, the children only suffered a few bumps and bruises (ya gotta love the resiliency).
The latest studies have shown that reaction times while texting are equal to the reaction times of drunk drivers. For me: Reaction time is the same, consequences are the same, and the punishments should be the same.
I have been run off the road twice this year by drivers talking on their cell phone and not looking right beside them to see me and changing lanes and forcing me off the road. The second even flipped me off.
That happened to me too --- probably the closest I have ever had to feeling road rage. I wanted to follow them until they stopped and rip the phone right out of their hands!
RR in Al, I know exactly how you feel, the same thing happen to me, and the perpetrator flipped me off.
I draw the line there, and simply motion them to pull over and lets have a nice friendly southern discussion about the situation. They are too chicken to pull over, though.
Irish2- What's a Southern discussion? I'm from Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love...
Consider the facts: the technology to prevent phones from allowing texting, calling, or other activity that could be potentially dangerous to drivers is available today; however everyone should consider why this has not been done, to date… Would restricting mobile phones that are moving be in the best interest of cellular companies? I personally don’t believe any cellular company out there would voluntarily start using such technology unless forced to do so, by law. Let’s face the facts; their business depends on charging people for using up their minutes, using data to browse the internet, and every text message that gets sent/received. Limiting a phone from working when a car is moving might put a serious hurt on revenue. Which cellular company out there would be happy to be the first one to step up and restrict moving cellular phones from being used, since doing so would make everyone on the roadways much safer? It doesn’t take much brain power to understand how this would be bad for business for any cellular company that started restricting phones from working while they were moving. Would you purchase a phone from your cellular company if it wouldn’t work while you were driving? Does anyone out there believe that the cellular companies have not already considered how much revenue this could cost them? Bottom line, I believe that our lawmakers must pass laws that force cellular companies and phone manufacturers to start using the technology to prevent phone usage while a phone is moving in a car. It is my opinion that creating and passing laws that make it illegal to use a phone while driving would be just a waste of time/money. Lawmakers should focus their time/efforts on passing laws that force the cellular companies and phone manufacturers to use technology to restrict usage. In the end, it might save your loved one from injury or death, one day…
Great point... as always - if you want to get to the bottom of an issue, "follow the money".
Also: it's scary when the elderly have become the safest drivers on the road... simply by putting both hands on the wheel & watching where they're going. Reaction times in the elderly have slowed, but their attention while driving has been a life-long habit.
Stay safe out there -
Freedom to do what you want to do works until it effects the life of another. Your right to talk on the phone while operating a mobile weapon doesn't give you the right to kill me.
What about putting on makeup? Eating? Talking too much to passengers? Dealing with children? Pets on laps? Reading? Maps? Singing? Picking your nose?
All of these things are distractions. Ban ALL distracted driving across the board. If you are distracted and it affects the operation of your vehicle, you get a ticket. Period.
What's so bad about those suggestions? The answer sounds perfectly logical to me.
I believe the answer is to legislate that all cars and trucks sold in the US be equipped with a cell phone block that is incorporated into the car computer chip. When power is on to the chip, all cell phone transmission and reception will be blocked.... Park your car and turn the ignition off and you can then make your cell phone call..... This technology is currently available for around $100 retail so it should be a snap to incorporate it into all new cars.
Naturally you would also have to legislated that all cell phones have the capability to detect motion and block them also - otherwise it would be MANY years before the block in the cars would take effect (since so many millions of cars cannot be retrofitted with the cell phone blocker...)
NO. Sure, I am opposed to texting while drinving...and people who do so should be taken out an flogged in public...BY THEIR STATE GOVERNMENTS!!! This is none of the federal government's concern.
What's the difference between state governments and the federal government? That's all I hear day in and day out...STATES RIGHTS...STATES RIGHTS...
It's all government, one way or the other. If all of the people who bitch about government interference would secede from the union, we would be a lot better off. Then, each state could be a country and each one could fight off communists, fascists...by itself. Sounds like a great idea to me.
Scott, I am usually with you on keeping the Feds out of it, but in this case it is a public safety issue, and the states are falling short by either not passing the laws or by not enforcing the laws, or both, and people are dying because of it. If the states would do their damn jobs, we wouldn't need the Feds to come in and lay down laws like this, but in this case, I think that's just what needs to happen.
ikie 12pts FFS man learn some history and a little bit about your country! America was founded on several principals, one being that states have rights to regulate as they see fit. In fact we had a whole WAR aka the American Revolution partly because of government interference.
Your comment makes me sick to my stomach. The day people stop caring about State's rights and government interference is the day America BECOMES a communist facist dictatorship.
If the people of a state don't want to take away personal freedoms it's up to them.
What's next, banning kids, food, the radio? Some people, like my father (his job necessitates it), talk on the cell phone and have never been close to an accident, although he has been hit twice, once because of a woman yelling at her kids, the other because people don't know how to drive on wet roads and people were tailgating. Mobile devices are NOT the problem, it's the people. If they weren't texting they'd find something else to distract them, like reading a book (I've seen it!) or playing games with their passengers. How about instead we actually teach people to drive instead of having this joke of an 'exam' we currently have that does nothing to prepare people to drive in the real world
First of all, I don't understand what this has to do with free speech. That's just stupid.
Texting while driving is insane. If it's that important and can't wait until you come to a stop again, pull over or, if someone else is in the car, give them the damn phone and dictate. As for talking, get a phone with hands-free features. (That shoud be a required feature on all cell phones. Does anyone think requiring brakes on all cars is a threat to our freedom. Give me a break. This is no different) A sense of responsibility and a few extra bucks to avoid killing yourself and/or someone else doesn't seem much to ask.
Really bad idea. One hand with the phone and the other a beer can, how can you steer at 70 or 80 MPH.
Apparently with your knee, jack kelly. I car pooled (notice the past tense) with a 19-yr-old student to campus. She drove 112 mph while talking to me in the seat next to her and texting on the phone in both hands, controlling the wheel with her knee. When I expressed my concern about her safety, she said she would die from something else before she died from texting, then she said she had a speed-control devise on her Mazda truck that limits her driving to only 92 mph, so even when the speedometer reads 112, she's actually only going 92 mph. My mother used to make me and my three other sisters be quiet in the car so she could concentrate on driving, not bad advise. I've made it eight years without even owning a cell phone and guess what, I'm a happy, camper with lots of pocket change and tons of experience in avoiding accidents. Who needs video games when you have Florida Highways to play on.
I wonder how many of those voting "Yes" on the survey above or posting comments in support of the national ban have actually used their cell phone (with hands) while in the car over the last month or even last day. I'm guessing most of these people have used their cell phone, as most people I know do use their cell phone while driving.
Throw the book at them, I've had several near misses from these idiots and they don't even respond when the horn is sounded, these fools keep moving right on into you.
If you need to talk or text pull over
After 14 years in the industry I still don't have that big a problem with talking while driving although hands-free is really the only way to go. Texting takes your eyes from the road, your hands from the wheel and your attention off the most important thing you're doing right then - piloting a 3000 pound missile through traffic that's depending on you not to screw up. That LOL you're sending could too easily turn into an R.I.P. for you and somebody who didn't know you were too stupid to attend to the real task at hand.
iwould appear common sense that you would not use a phone in congested traffic; when on a
road with little traffic, using a phone could be done safely; however, with all the risk takers who want to text and phone on city streets and highways in congestion, banning it may be the only
way to cut down on serious accidents.
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These fools should lose their license