Now boy howdy this is important and mind numbing news. If this is the best MSNBC and AP can do when it comes to reporting News then they just need to close their doors and go home where they belong. Here is an excerpt from this piece of junk news - NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Family members have canceled the wedding of a Yale University graduate student who vanished days before the New York nuptials as more than 100 investigators scrambled for clues to her disappearance.
Na Ma, don’t worry about the fact that one of the parties involved with getting married isn’t around. We’ll go ahead and spend ten grand on the wedding anyway and invite all our friends and be embarrassed to no end but what the Hay – that’s life. Great job of journalistic reporting!
um all you people up there except meganame really have issues..Obviously she is gone. When I say gone..it usually means deceased..what because it didn't happen to you you have to be callous..well you knows. There is no telling what happened to her and as human beings this isn't something to JOKE about. Anna I hope they find you alive, but from the signs bloody clothes...no check out...it seems hopeless..so I hope they find the person(s) responsible for this.
It is most shocking to see the lack of value for a human life here. Is this why you are for Abortion?, even late term Abortion? Life doesn't matter whether it is a fetus or a young woman who had so much to give to her fellow mankind. Medicine.
I know there is a majority of Liberals on this board. It is shameful to know that your group is cold blooded and uncaring. Much like Obama.
You would fit well with the Arabic type of thinking. They are waiting for you to come and visit.
New Haven is an awful place. Yale has an unbelievable fortune of money and could have moved out years ago but elected not to do so as it would not be "politically correct". Same with Columbia. I'm very sorry for the suspected victim and her loved ones. Yale is to blame.
Sorry Meganame does have issues--is there any subject under the sun that you could respond to without mentioning President Obama? Your sick obsession with him and so-called "liberals" is bordering on pathological. Get yourself some help please.
Bloody clothes found hidden above the ceiling tiles, an incinerator inside the lab building, and no photographic evidence of her departure from the lab-doesn't look like there will be a good outcome. However, the upside is that they have photos of everyone entering and departing the building the day of her disappearance, that should certainly aid the investigation. Sounds similar to the recent disappearance of the cleaning woman in the NY office tower, where the building's janitor has been charged with her murder after finding her body stuffed up above the ceiling tiles.
hopeforever ..that is a thought...Docs don't want that all important cure...that would mean too much dollars out of their pockets...too bad..it could extend so many wonderful peoples lives....
Water....New Haven is actually a great town....and no different than any other....I went to college in New Haven and downtown is really geared towards Yale....Although, I and a lot of my fellow college buddies continually joked about Yalies while in college, I dont' believe the Univ should be held accountable...You can't protect everyone, sorry to say...I think it's presumptive to point the finger of blame before getting all the fact and the fact is that they city and Univ have been very tight lipped about this and can only think they are trying to put a case together...very carefully..in order to ensure the person that is found as the culprit, is found guilty, without any doubt in anyone's mind...
What kind of idiotic nonsense is being brought to this thread concerning politics, particularly about ACORN/President Obama/Dems, etc.? This is about a beautiful young woman with a bright future, and who was about to be married, being murdered. Stupid question, but have you conservatives flipped your gourds? Don't you have ANY common sense as to go to gripe on THAT thread that talks about politics, as opposed to THIS thread? Are you so partisan, that you'll blame the President for the sun merely rising in the sky? Geez...
I wasnt surprised if shes killed. I find chinese women annoying. The most ridiculous thing is when friends say they cant imagine someone hating her.
HAH, sounds like a double face monster to me. Let me guess, shes very nice to white people, asskissing almost but felt she is a superior being to non whites, even asian males.
Another ridiculous thing is when someone say, she might have contribute something to science. HAH, honey dont kid yourself, most asians cheat their way to college graduation. Their thesis papers are done by someone else.
Good riddance I say, give that job to another American who needs the job.
Why was the Press ringing the door bell of Le”s fiancée Johathan Widawsky the day after finding her body? The press shows no sympathy or respect for the grieving. What were they going to ask him that would be news, how do you feel?
My first thought was they need to take a second look at the fiance---remember Hacking, Markoff and of course Scott Peterson, all presumed innocent in the beginning.
Don't you suppose this had to be done by someone already in the building? You would think they would have a picture of someone who possibly come in earlier, I'm sure the police know more right now than what they are saying and that's alright we don't need to know right now. No matter what it is just another terrible thing happening to our young women today. If this is this young lady my heart goes out to the family and relatives and by remembering all the good times with her will be of some help. God bless them.
My guess would be maintenance worker. He'd know every nook and cranny of that building and hiding places.....and would have seen her on many occasions and would probably have a pretty good idea of her daily patterns.
I am assuming she made a concoction at the lab, walked to the nook in the wall, laid down and drank it/ injected it.
OF course she wanted to hide herself.
Most people who take their lives make sure it would be difficult to save them- like DJ AM who just killed himself- he had mirrors laid against both doors, so that it would be difficult to break in and save him.
That is exactly the point- to make sure it would be too late when you are found and you will not have to deal with the shame and have to deal with all the stress and problems that caused your need to kill yourself.
and I actually heard of 2 cases in Yale of students who raped (allegedly) female students in date-rape and the thing was hushed (the reputation of Yale and of the young gentleman is surely more important...).
One of those students is supposed tobe a doctor now.
However, while I think Yale's unofficial "policy" of quieting such complaints, has nothing to do with this case, since there's no date with another guy, and the location is in a lab, the woman had knoledge and access to everything needed to commit suicide and she was both in a beginning of an academic year, which is always a stressful time, PLUS was about to get married.
To be, it sounds like she cracked under the pressure and decided to kill herself. That is, assuming the fiance hadn't done it (NYC and New Haven are very close- just a matter of an hour, and hour and a half drive.
So I would check her cell phone and his phone records- to see if they talked to meet up, and he might have visited her there.
But other than that, it's sounds like another case of an Asian woman who pushed herself too hard and decided to take her own life.
Pepster- "her bloody clothes in a ceiling space and went to the wall to kill herself?"
Obviously, if her bloody clothes were found in a ceiling, and her own body naked is in a different place- then it is a homicide. No question about that.
I was only speculating based on the things we know so far.
Because of the surveillance equipment, it will be very difficult for the perpetrator to keep from being apprehended. Lie detectors should be mandatory for all employees who work at the lab building. That would really be an extreme way for someone to commit suicide, however, nothing can be ruled out this early in an investigation.
Remember the cleaning lady who disappeared just a couple months ago in a New York office tower, and was later found stuffed above the ceiling tiles in one of the offices, I believe the janitor was charged with the crime. A truly bizarre and sad ending for this promising young woman's life.
It has to be someone who knows the layout and the security systems of the buildings , because it took the police about a week to find her in that small area. It is a sad and terrible ending for this young and promising woman's life.
If the cops focused less on whether this girl might be a runaway bride and more on who had access to that research building, they would have found her body sooner. Hiding bloody clothes and her body in ceilings and walls would lead one to believe that the assailant was in construction - a person with temporary access and no background check. Was the building under renovations? A woman was murdered in a New York building a year or so ago by a construction worker who would not have typically had access to the premises. For runaway brides, if that is how it turns out (not applicable in this case), they should be charged for every red cent spent by public services on locating their neurotic a22es and judgment liens filed against them if they don't pay the bill. Other young women who were clearly not neurotic or attention seekers should not be tarred with the same brush and precious time wasted in pursuing their killers.
dragonmaster well executed ?? he left the body behind he left evidence IE: bloody clothes probably DNA he needed a pass card to get into the building YOU MY FRIEND ARE PLAYING TOO MANY VIDEO GAMES DRAGONMASTER INDEED
Am I the only one wondering at the conjunction of the comments that she was found "stuffed into a wall" in a "high security campus building"? Maybe it's some lingering addiction to logic, but anyplace where someone can murder you, disrobe you, hide your bloody clothes in a ceiling, and find both time and opportunity to somehow stick your body in a wall, all while evading detection for at least a week is NOT, precisely speaking and to my mind, "high security"... "Restricted access"? Yeah, okay, I can buy that, but "high security"? Hoo-boy, that is stretching the concept.
Unfortunately, that coinage was probably concocted by Yale. Colleges are regular hot beds of crime where parents unwittingly send some of their most vulnerable children, most on their own for the first time, to be preyed upon. Most colleges also go out of their way to deny that fact and it is not uncommon for both town and gown to work, hand in hand, to hide, from anxious parents, the extent of crime on campus. It was that way 40 years ago when I was in school. The university had built some high rise dorms (mostly housing freshmen, since nobody else wanted to occupy them) overlooking the river and separated from the main campus by a huge field and a large complex of tennis courts. Those tennis courts quickly became "rape central", the equivalent, for female students, of wildebeasts crossing a crocodile infested river on the plains of the Serengeti. Yet the university went out of its way to hide that fact until it got so bad (at least 34 reported rapes in a single month and 18 in one week) that it couldn't be ignored and even then they tried to underplay the danger, lest they have to spend money on security or write off their big, new, expensive dorms. The only thing that has changed since then is that crime has gone up, the economic stakes have gone up, and college administrators have gotten even more practiced and determined in denying and hiding crime on campus.
So, I guess I'm wondering how, ultimately, Yale is going to explain the failure of their "high security" facilities to protect Ms. Le and I'm wondering how many other students are working alone, late at night, in mostly empty buildings, under the illusion that the college's "high security" systems are guarding their backs.
Ethan 30 - sure, she committed suicide and then put herself inside the wall. How would she be able to move? Most people don't squeeze themselves behind walls when they take their own life.
Olde Fart. Yale should have some explaining to do. This sort of thing seems to be getting more common college campuses. However, if the killer was another student, that would explain how that person legitimately gained access to the building. You never know when your crazy co-worker is going to go off their tree.
Thank God for professional police work. You guys were ready to blame it on the Janitor (with no proof), oh, and I forgot, Liberals were to blame for this, too!!
Sex offender most likely but maybe not. Great that Yale didn't try to shove it under the carpet but they have a large endowment, prestigious, so....
Sex offenses are big on campuses. Some are actually induced. Some succeed, some not.
I attended The University of Iowa back in the early 80's. As an older student, male, trying to better myself, I was UNWANTED by some of the elitist scum. The older student at Iowa had not quite made their presence in 1980, so finding someone to identify with me became somewhat problematic to the ever present sociologists. It's quite amazing how these people try their best to get all the birds of a feather flying together and not separate the classes. Actually, I think that they are more concerned with class jumping.
At any rate, trying to better myself, I attended summer sessions as well as the regular terms during the traditional school year. During the summer, a student like myself with little extra money can sublet a fairly nice apt. One place was on S. Johnson St., the scene of wall-to-wall parties during the summer. I moved into a 5 BR with 3 former football players, now law students, and one guy who had just gotten out of prison (had 5-DUI's). One of the law students had a live-in 19-yr old girl friend, a hottie from a well-to-do family and who was not a student but worked at one of THEIR massage parlors, giving hand-jobs. Kids from well-to-do family often find higher paying but less traditional jobs.
For the most part, I was a loner among this group, staying home to study. And, I had no money anyway.
One Sat afternoon, the hottie and a couple of her girl friends, ages 15 and 16, were out drinking at a bar which was located close to the apt. If you were in the in crowd, then drinking as a minor in Iowa City was not an issue. The 3 arrived at the apt that afternoon, wanting to smoke some pot. Having found out the ages of the 2 girls, I left the area entirely to find some viable witnesses to verify where I was that day (I ain't no dummy, especially having no money, not being wanted in IC in the first place, and not being Jew, Catholic and/or Episcopalian). Oh, did I mention that I am White?
Time passed. A couple of weeks later, being home alone studying, the 15 yr old shows up wanting to smoke some pot with her girl friend who wasn't home. She looked pretty good, I must admit. Halter top, short shorts, etc. Then, she came onto me, wanting to smoke with me. I told her that I didn't have any but if I gave her some money, she could go buy some, then come back to smoke. I gave her 10 bucks (this was 1980). She left.
I then went out the window of my BR in back, slipped in the darkness to the alley where I saw a couple of IC detectives sitting in an unmarked police car. They did not see me. So, I went around to the front of the apt bldg where 3 IC cops were sitting in a black and white. They seemed to be waiting on something. I suspected that they were waiting on the 15 yr old to come back with the pot so that they could raid the apt to find me smoking pot with a 15 yr old. And, whatever molestation charges they could manufacture.
Again, I left the area quickly and found some viable witnesses. I remained there all night, returning to the apt to pack my stuff to leave. I withdrew from the University the following Monday. I returned a couple of years later with some money in my pocket and completed my degree.
Thus, this is a case of power trying to kill a few birds with one stone. Firstly, they get rid of an unwanted older student. Secondly, they send a non-Catholic, non-Jew, non-Episcopalian to prison for a few years. Thirdly, they screw up the life of a high-achiever. Marxist scum hate achievers.
I'm sure this case will be wrapped up soon as to all the security protocol such as the 75 survellance camera's trained on every door and ID cards for the doors needed to enter the building. The only problem is if these camera's views were being taped. It would have to be someone that was very close to her to commit such a horrific crime. It could possibly be a love triangle such as in the case of the NASA astronaut that traveled from Texas to Florida with BB gun's, diapers, latex gloves, rope, etc. Whatever happened, it was carefully planned out, just as these students are trained to behave. So it's obviously someone with as much ambition as this woman whom was murdered to carry out this crime and still get away with it and such a person could possilby have inside access to surviellance personnel to get them to possilby cover this up with bribes. These are only students mind you, not professionals, therefore more easily bought out with money bribes to cover up such a gruesome murder. This person will be caught as now the threat of the future of whomever helped her will be threatened upon interrogation. These students will easily crack just as they likely succombed to money bribes. Just first interrogate the security personnel. That's just a given ofcourse.
Just figured it was someone who secretly watched her, knew her movements and her well and just snapped because she was getting married.
You cannot protect yourself from every nut out there. You have to just hope you will not run into them. Thanks goodness we outnumber them or there would be no hope. Guess I believe in fate - if something is going to happen it will. Seldom can you outsmart fate.
Ethan30 wrote "I actually heard of 2 cases in Yale of students who raped (allegedly) female students in date-rape and the thing was hushed (the reputation of Yale and of the young gentleman is surely more important...). "
What is rape? Rape has been broadened to include consensual sex which days later is deemed unpleasant or even sex that didn't go as well as it should. We've been blasted with the image that date rape is when a man goes into a rage, beats a woman senseless, then ejaculates into her unconscious body. That's wrong.
And, yes. It is important for a place of higher education to be fairly represented. If the rapes did not actually occur, then there is no need to ruin the reputation of a university or the men involved. If the rapes are real, then they should be dealt with by the law, not university security.
I don't have any ideas about the perpetrator, but she was an innocent young woman trying to ear a medical degree and some degenerate decided to snuff out her life. I hope they hang the person in public!!!!
Such a beautiful woman and obviously very intelligent to have achieved what she had. Even the Ivory Tower is no longer immune from the insanity that seems to contaminate everything around us. Mundo Loco. Mundo Loco. So pathetic. What is our future?
The suspect male could have been stalking her for a long time. Also, being a Sex Offender. The end came for him when she was getting married the next day.
The article she wrote in February had something to do with his connection to her killing. She talked about bad people, bad things happening in New Haven, and it must stop.
Twisted minds will go to great lengths to solve their issues with the person committing violent ends, to a what they think is a relationship with the victim;.
I am sure you are right on both counts. I think he wanted to rape her and she fought back. Kudos to her. I am the same weight but a few inches taller and we will fight back.
Well executed? Yes. Well thought out? No. The perp was able to commit the murder and hide the body and get out without being detected, as well as whatever took place before the murder. Do you know how to open the cable raceway? How far apart were the clothes and the body? A quick thinker, I think not, so the fire alarm and whatever disguise to get out without door logging was either figured out beforehand, or, extreme luck. I'm sure the suspect, if guilty, didn't expect to get marked by her, so not well thought out, but still, executed as if preplanned. At least he will be stopped the firsttime. He has obviously never before gone so far or he would have known that he was not too likely to escape permanently. All this supposes that the prime suspect is the perp.
Taina: It may be. The writings in February by Annie Le are very disturbing. Was she writing about this person?. Why did it happen the day before the wedding?
In the Asian culture, it is very hard for them discuss things like this with family and friends. The Asians would consider it shameful on the family.
Soon we will find out what happened. What a waste of a young woman's life. She would have made huge contributions to society.
If it happened at Yale University, it can happen anywhere.
"Clues point to inside job in Yale killing" WOW, I wonder what gave this away? the high security area that requires id cards to be swiped and hundreds of video camera's? Gee, I don't know? that Idea is a little far fetched? either this person who wrote this article is an idiot or worse, our police are? I hope it is the Author!! It sounds like a love triangle, maybe she was seeing this guy behind her fiancee's back and she finally told the guy off because she was getting married or has been for a while and the guy couldn't take it and killed her. when you are obsessed with some one they go crazy!!! you never know? it is a really sad story though, they looked really happy in their pic's. if someone hurt my wife to be or my wife I would find them and do things to them like in SAW, but more slow!!! you don't mess with my family!!!
Sorry to say or maybe not but people are generally fascinated with mystery and this definitely is a mystery. Not being able to find a record of her leaving the building nor on a surveillance camera is odd to say the least.
Cameras are everywhere (unforunately) and sometimes it is not since this is a way of tracking people down, stating a time frame when a missing person occurs or a crime has been committed.
Jan..why is the headline stupid? Wedding cancelled while searching for yale student? I fail to see anything stupid about that or the idea behind it. They merely are stating that the wedding is cancelled not put off while a family HOPES that their loved one is returned although doubtedly safe. Yeah I don't get your comment either..
You sound really sorry. like this young, productive woman in the dawn of life isn't worth your time....poor you. When you or your loved one, if you have any should be treated with the same callous disregard. I pray she has had cold feet but don't get that feeling... God forbid any of you raise a child to adulthood to see her life end tragically. There is nothing funny or trivial about any of this. This has Nothing to do with politics. It is a human interest story and one I pray has a happy ending.
I have a question, if there was 75 cameras and they didn't see her leave, did they see her actually using the key-card to get in (I havent been following up and speed reading the articles)? IF not, could someone have stolen her key-card presuming that there was no video of her arriving and let's say said person used her key-card to get in to the building and dumped her clothing in her lab looking for something that she might have stored at the lab. With it being said there is 75 cameras wouldn't you assume that they caught every person coming in to the building and try to track everyone down and figure out a possible motive, say jealousy of a teachers attention, better financial stability, jealousy over her upcoming nuptial. Lets go a little further, what if the person that killed her was already in the lab from the prior day waiting around because he/she knew what hours she preferred to use the lab, couldn't we check records from the prior day? Let me guess we are going to stand there and hope the person that did it jumps out of the bushes with a bow on his ass screaming you caught me by not looking.
Yeah, 75 cameras. Yale is full of know-it-alls. I live in another (small) Ivy League town. Full of "know-it-all" idiots totally lost in outer space. Why else do you think this country is in such a fine mess? I'm very sorry for the suspected victim and her loved ones. More Ivy League victims. There are so many. Yeah, I know. I'm just jealous. Heard it all before. Jealous of what? Nothing!
To answer your question, they have video tape that shows her walking into the building at the same time as her card being used. So they know it was she who entered the building. And they have no record or video tape of her ever leaving.
"Jan..why is the headline stupid? Wedding cancelled while searching for yale student? I fail to see anything stupid about that or the idea behind it."
Why is the headline stupid? How about a headline telling us that acorns come from trees? Of course it's stupid, because there is nothing at all added by mentioning that the wedding was cancelled. Rather wouldn't be much of a wedding with only one person up there would it?
Waterdog - This country is in so much trouble because majority of the people are high school drop out uneducated oafs who are rather proud of their ignorance and wear it as a badge of honor.
Husbands/boyfriends are *always* the first suspect, even if the police make the usual disclaimer, "Not a suspect at this time..." Still, it seems unlikely she would leave her personal items behind in her office. I think they'll find her body somewhere in the lab building.
Bill-541803 - ok, you don't care for this kind of story? Why did you bother to read it? I don't care for sports news so I don't read it - simple. You wrote 8 lines of text just to express your sarcastic opinion that this is "junk news" and of no value (to you). You're entitled, of course, but why spend so much of life's precious time (reading the article and then typing 8 lines of text) just to say you don't consider this news?
Marysia
most people have stupid things to say and do not know what they are even talking about i dont think Bill-541803 read or knows a thing about this item and you have to remember their are a lot of people
on these sites that are like 12
BRAD-285503 you really need to find something to do>>>
Bobins V-tec was Bush's fault. He was the President then Mr. Short Term Memory. That happened nowhere even close to the 2008 election. Should clear that up since ultra conservatives on this blog are insistant that every despicable act of evil is this country is the Presidents fault, even a Murder at a top ranked university.
you are correct - there was a report by another news source a body had been found and the police refuted this and said only clothes........and the news source changed their report to this.
Rick - it was the Jennifer Wilbanks case in Georgia. Unfortunately, I get the feeling that the young lady in this article is not the same. Finding bloody clothing is not a good sign. I hope she is okay.
Gees, Liberals, what is wrong with you? That's why I definitely wouldn't be a good one. You're too callous and do not care about the human race.
The Liberals claim to be sensitive and caring. All I see are a bunch of minds who's elevator doesn't go to the top. Self centered, spoiled, and mindless..
Just FYI not all Liberials are callous and don't care. I tend to be more liberal than not and this saddens me greatly. Anytime something like this happens it is very disturbing. Whether or not it is an abortion or anit-abortion activist or the family of the Iraq police officer who's family was killed by insurgents this morning, anytime a human life is taken needlessly in violence is a sad day.
All of you talking trash and making useless comments on here need to be ashamed of yourselves. Regardless of your political or religious view, this is a sad and horrible situation and needs to be addressed as so. A little more respect for human life please. Imagine if this was your daughter, niece, fiance or family member.
How in God's name does a missing woman who has been potentially murdered in the prime of her life become a Liberal vs. Conservative debate? Some of you folks need to stop using your brains as clipboards and bring some original thoughts that are actually pertinent to the topic at hand.
As for the girl and her family, my prayers go out to them. As bleak as the situation looked for that 11-year old girl who was abducted nearly 20-years ago, she managed to survive, so until they find conclusive proof that this woman is dead, the family should still have some hope. Stranger things have happened - as we just witnessed a few weeks ago.
Jay I am wondering the same thing. When I am reading comments made here I almost feel like am I on the right tread I thought this story was about a missing young woman.
Those who can't let go of politics or name calling such as "Liberals or Conservatives" need to get some theraphy. Life is not all about politics!
I'd have to agree with the maintainence angle. Somebody from that dept would indeed know all those "nooks and crannies", and where every camera was and every camera angle, on top of what they're sayin' that the body was found IN a wall. Hmmm....
What story are you folks reading? The article says (as of 9:45 AM PST) that they found a BODY and now have a suspect in custody. Hardly a "runaway bride" situation...
Granted, Jennifer Willibanks did a major disservice to womankind with her runaway bride hoax, but this is clearly NOT that situation.
This whole "conversation" is disturbing. Suicide? Runaway bride? You people must be idiots! Students in grad school typically have their lives planned in advance. You are talking about and making fun of a person you don't even know. You should all get jobs and make yourselves productive citizens. May God rest her soul.
Why are they canceling the Wedding is it because of the BRIDE won't be there. these news networks now a days need to send their reporters back to school and get some brains just how stupid are some of these people. What they might be thinking she left to go out and have a one last fling and then going to show up on Sunday for the wedding. I never took journalisim in school but I thing I can write better stories than these goof balls.
This is so very, very, tragic. I wonder what on God's good earth motive could have been? One would assume that the killer would have had to have knowledge of the building---probably knew her---worked with her? How much struggle could a 90 lb. female have put up? Let's see who's DNA is on her and/or on those clothes? We'll have a nice, fair, trial; then, we'll hang him.
No, Stan. We won't hang him. He'll (assuming it's a he) get a light sentence and be free in 15 years for good behavior so s/he can kill someone else. That's precisely why there is so much of this BS now. If we killed them immediately after they are proven to be guilty, they wouldn't later be able to reproduce themselves.
AMEN Stan. Not only will he/she get a light sentence, but we're all stuck paying taxes so that these maniacs can have a roof over their heads and 3 squared a day - FREE HEALTHCARE, and so much more. How many hard working Americans can't claim to have these things???!!!
Peterd..Msnbc is NOT just about news..jeez don't you people get it..there are tabs...sports..entertainment...crime...weird news....life....ok??? why do they put sports articles on the front page??? because they do. So the next person that says this isnt news..go over to TMZ..or OMG..cuz that..my dears is not news..you will prob find what you are looking for there.
There are plenty of other stories on the Internet, Peter. If something is not of interest to you, do not read it. Obviously, it interested you enough to comment on it, though.
Since when is murder fluff? You must be some work of art. Hope your not this compassionate with your family.
MSNBC is awful about coverage. They only tell you what they want to (and very slanted at that) instead of giving you all the news so you can (gasp) use your own brain to make your own conclusions on it. They really need to learn it's JUST THE FACTS PLEASE!!!
Brad - I believe Corey's Mom meant that it would not be customary in the girl's Asian culture to cancel a wedding. They put a lot more thought into marrying than westerners and typically they would go through with the ceremony as planned. In any event, Corey's Mom's comments are not twisted or racist as you allege.
12345, that is correct. brad you misunderstood the comment. i don't have a racist bone in my body. my co workers,friends and family will verify that. :)
12345-coreys........ you both are racist..... canceling a wedding in the USA is not normal ether.... or anywhere for that matter.... stating "asian" in your response...THAT IS RACIST...... look it up.... you don't even know that you are racist.... that is funny
The detective in the video accompanying this article stated that a suspect fire alarm was pulled about 2 hours after Ms. Le had been in the building. He stated that many in the research building had exited in lab coats and that it would be difficult to catch/discern who was who. It would be easy for a person to don a lab coat and move through the crowd to exit the building. Also the detective stated that a parking garage connected to the building would provide easy access for someone to get away. Though Ms. Le left her purse and phone, the detective stated she had her ID/entrance card. We hope this is just a case of runaway bride. However, elaborate escape plans have been carried out before. The woman could get an untraceable cell phone at any side store. Purses and bags can be replaced and she could be moving with cold cash. If she's smart enough to be pursuing a double doctorate then she's clever enough to plan an escape. Not saying she did this. Otherwise she has probably been abducted and may be dead. Cadaver dogs are being used in the search. This story is getting attention because it involves mystery and intrigue in an ivey league environment. Like anyone I hope she hasn't been taken.
A lot of crap goes on in collage. Hazing for example. I read that a lot of rapes happen also and they cover it up because they don't want bad publicity that would keep parents from enrolling their kids and stop the endowments. To my mind, it seems college kids are targeted more than average. Remember Bundy and the guy in Gainsville, Florida? You will probably call me crazy, but these satanic cults like to sacrifice intellegent people. Remember Mark Kilroy in metamourros? The leader of these crazies told them to go out and find someone "smart" for a sacrifice. and this was a very intellegent girl. Don't be too quick to dismiss it, in this world, nothing is too far fetched.
Yes - the alarm was probably erroneously triggered by her murderer stuffing her body in the wall. Too bad the police didn't search the walls to begin with instead of speculating that she might be a runaway bride.
I'm wondering what the police poured over the blueprints and surveillance video footage. Seems anything they poured would ruin the paper and video...but I suppose they are the experts.
I'm not sure if you are joking or not. Maybe you just are not familiar with one of the definitions of "pouring over" (if you are an ESL student)
In this reference, "pouring over" means "to look at carefully and intently", "to inspect/study". Linguistically, I have no idea how this term came to be used for intense study; perhaps someone compared their scrutiny to poured syrup, inching slowly over each piece of "whatever". (in this case, evidence)
So, the police would be taking the time to look very carefully at the blueprints and videos, not physically pouring something over them.
i'm sure the family of this missing girl don't feel its a "stupid" headline. and when they found bloody clothes in the ceiling i'd be freakin, if this were my daughter. being in a lab, the perpetrator (also probably a med student) knew how to get rid of a body with chemicals, and sharp instruments. be curious how it unfolds. if the fiance was in california (yet to be determined), he obviously will be dismissed as a suspect. theres still the wonder...where is she? and why would someone do this to her..
You want to know why people do such things? First of all, children don't have parents anymore-they have friends who don't teach them right from wrong and they get whatever it is they want. If they don't, then they will find a way whether it is legal or not. Second, a perp has more rights than you or I do. They will get a slap on the wrist. They will go to prison, pump iron, eat 3 meals, get medical treatment and dental treatment (yeah, I know it's not the best but better than nothing), cable TV, radios, exercise, etc....What does the victim get and their families? Torture, heartache, a lifetime of misery, etc.
We are raising a bunch of ingrates who think it's cool to murder because they'll be on all the news stories. They have NO discipline anymore. They fear NO ONE, especially parents and teachers. In fact, it is the other way around.
Look at our society now, that what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right. Do you even wonder any more? I don't. I know why. We're a sick sadistic society!! We've already forgotten the victims of 9/11. Proof of that is the way America bends over backwards for muslims such as foot baths at airports, special schools, and foot baths for cabbies. I'm sure the families of the victims appreciate reading those kinds of "Stupid" headlines!!
fritzsmom, way to show how uneducated you are. pre-1900's modern society involved more rape, murder, and thievery than exists today. 1900-2000 saw a dramatic decrease, and post 2000 modern society has less of these crimes than at any time in human history. the problem is idiots like you get worked up over sensational headlines rather than checking facts. you keep soaking up the sensationalism then spout how terrible our society is now. it is truly sad people like you are even allowed to vote. i sincerely hope you aren't somebody's mom in real life.
Morons like you look to the past. I'm talking about the here and now. Don't you even dare say that kids haven't lost all respect when I see news stories all the time of kids beating their teachers, beating people on buses. We are supposed to be a more civilized society today, are we not? So what does the past have to do with the crimes of today? Not a damn thing.
I am a good American. I didn't vote for the marxist, socialist, communist obama like I am so certain you did. I believe in free enterprise, I believe in choice and if there is anyone out there who doesn't and wants the socialist way, then move to the country north of us but don't force it on us. Our Constitution is not founded on socialist values or communist values. I said that to inform you that I love America, more than someone who goes to other countries and apologizes for America.
Our justice system doesn't do it's job and protect us from monsters like the one who undoubtedly took Ms. Le. Now, get over yourself. Real American my ass!
fritzsmom, you are a moron. first, you have no idea about the meaning of socialist and communist otherwise you would not be so stupid to associate our President with those words. You are slo arrogant and have no knowledge about our history. You should go to FOXnews because it is more your level and your ideology.
What has the disapearance of the Yale student to do with Obama or socialists? You are not a good American; you are a dumb American!
And yes, history has everythign to do with it. The reason you "see these headlines" now is because of the technology we have today to bring them to you.
The fact is, that prior generations were far worse off in crime, children still commited crimes, people still killed people. You just didn't hear about it because we didn't have the ability to send it right to your computer in less than a second. But the fact still remains that they had more incidents, just because you weren't aware of them doesn't make them not true. I can play your game too....Typical closed minded conservative, if I can't see it happening, it doesn't exhist.!!!!
Fritzsmom: Your statement here is direct and, clear. Thank you.
What has happened to today's society. Sadistic, yes, A majority of people on this board can be described as this.
There have been many of types of missing young woman, very few are found alive. Some are run aways---this one does not seem to be the case. Finding bloodied clothing, and a youn woma who had everything to live for.
Men who kill these young women are either Socieopaths or Psychopaths. This woman may have been in an abusive realtionship. That we do not know yet. No wedding.
It is most disturbing to read the comments. Most have been desensitized to violence because of the movies and violence seen on TV. They must think this is normal. Where are caring parents who teach their children the sanctity of life?
It is a me society, neglecting the needs of our children. Parents needs come before their child's. Lessons taught? Value life.
The nation has forgotten the Garridos. Jaycee--so much violence and crazy happenings, no one can focus on each individual one for any length of time.
Drugs play the biggest part in any kind of murder and violence. Drug Cartels are creating Americans as zombies and it is easy to kill while under the influence. There is no feeling for the act.
It's time to declare War on Drugs along with the Terrorists.
Actually, Meganame, there IS a spell checker here on Newsvine ... right ^there ... see the ABC with the check mark? ...
And as I previously stated; I had hoped this was a case of "cold feet" ... it certainly appears in light of bloodied clothes in the ceiling and now a "body" that appears to be homicide ...
My heart and prayers go out to her family for a life snuffed out so soon and so tragically. Peace to them now in their time of grief and mourning. I hope they find the killer(s) quickly and with justice served.
All you freaky posters above who disagree with Fritzsmom - prove the statistics you state. Life was bloody treacherous back in history but not for the comparisons you make. It was treacherous mostly because of lack of proper nutrition, lack of proper housing, living in filthy, contaminated conditions, with no clean, running water, or sanitation capabilities, etc. Yes, children had to steal and pick pockets to help their families survive. All well documented by Charleston Dickens or I should say romantically embellished. But you are still incorrect in your assertions about there being more murders and other crimes.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it not long ago that someone went missing and either they or their clothes were fond in a ceiling? This sound familiar to me.
Yes, it was a cleaning lady in NYC (I think). They found her stuffed in a vent in the ceiling.
Women aren't safe anywhere as long as there are sex offenders running around everywhere.
WHEN will they start putting these men away for good? They cannot be cured and there are
out there lurking for their next victim. When you have judges that give a year to a known sex
offender of a little innocent 4 yr old girl....well....something is horribly wrong with our justice system.
These stupid men judges have no clue as to what pain these victims go through, and suffer the
rest of their lives. I would vote for castration in a heart beat if I were given the chance! Low-life
men like this do NOT belong on the outside to prey on the innocent.
While I agree with you on sex offenders, there is no proof yet that one committed this murder. Usually, the victim is killed by someone they know. It could be a co-worker who was jealous. We will have to wait and see.
I recently did a project for a Dr in one of these large research facilities. They are huge, with many (1000s) of people working in and coming and going. Finding the killer from a video will be a daunting project.
whose to decide whats good journalism, and what is not? my opinion may be different than yours, thats why its called a free conuntry, the blessed freedom of speech. i've seen it used poorly before, but its their right to do so.
That's right. If Nancy says ya did it, ya did it. LoL. A number of years ago, I got a Neilsen TV rating form and wrote on there that Nancy Grace was the most irritating person I had ever seen on television. I think they read what I wrote and then gave her her own show.
I was hoping she'd come home alive and well. But when I read that they had found bloody clothing, I just teared up. This woman had so much potential to do great things for people who suffer from disease. If she is no longer with us, we have truly lost a talented soul. I feel real bad for her fiance, her friends, her classmates and mostly her family. This is just tragic news that breaks my heart completely!
I was thinking the same thing, such a beautiful talented young woman who had so much potential to do so many great things. I truely feel bad for her, her family, and friends. Many prayers to them all.
Yes, such a bright young woman with so much to offer her country, family and friends.
Anyone wanna bet that the perp had a rap sheet a mile long??? Probably been in the pen already and out for "good behavior" or maybe some scum sucking lawyer got him off on a technicality the first offence. They probably had a bad childhood or some other freakin' excuse for their bad adult behavior/choices.
There should be records of who got into the building with their card, shouldn't be a big deal to talk to all those folks and check them out. I hope they catch them to give the family some closure. My prayers are with them.
My heart goes out to those who love her, she will be missed by many....
some of us care enough about people to like to know about the "fluff". nothing we can do about the wars, nor the economy, peter d, so we can spend time talking with each other trying to figure out this thing.
I maybe she did get cold feet.And took off some were ,till she desided if she wanted to get married.But he should have left a note or called someone to let her family know shes ok.Unless she was being made to get married.And didn't want to get married.So she took off .Thats what I thought till they found bloody clothes hidden .Now could have someone kidnaped her or killed her .Like exboyfriend or a jelouse stalker.or someone jelouse of her and the work she was doing.But I pray she is alive.
This story echoes that of Eridania Rodriguez who was killed earlier this year. The videotape showed her entering her building to go to work but then there was never any footage of her leaving. The killer was the building elevator operator. He strangled her then hid her body in an air conditioning duct. So it's probably the same case here. Unless they find footage or evidence of her leaving the building, I think her body must be hidden somewhere inside, just like how they found the clothes in the ceiling- her body very well may be there too.
we shall see what we shall see...but; all good, well thinking humans pray and hope for the best for anyone...when given these unbelievable circumstances during such trying times already...and even when times are good....people still wish for good things to occur for their fellow-humans...only insensitive clods think poorly about their fellow human beings...as your Mom may have told you; "...if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all!"
i think the body is still there..some place. detectives should go over the building with a fine tooth comb. i.e footage of her entering...no footage of her leaving. pretty obvious!
corey's mommy, you are so right! I thought the same thing, why were there no footage of her leaving the building, but they had it of her entering. finally, someone smartened up. i think this all has to do with jealousy, maybe even a woman, afterall, Le was so tiny, and she was on her way to a wonderful life. i think she may have been aware of she was being stalked. friends said she was street smart and aware of her surroundings. what a horrible thing for the fiance to go through.
Now boy howdy this is important and mind numbing news. If this is the best MSNBC and AP can do when it comes to reporting News then they just need to close their doors and go home where they belong. Here is an excerpt from this piece of junk news - NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Family members have canceled the wedding of a Yale University graduate student who vanished days before the New York nuptials as more than 100 investigators scrambled for clues to her disappearance.
Na Ma, don’t worry about the fact that one of the parties involved with getting married isn’t around. We’ll go ahead and spend ten grand on the wedding anyway and invite all our friends and be embarrassed to no end but what the Hay – that’s life. Great job of journalistic reporting!
Where in the hell is the ACORN fiasco coverage!?
I read it on the dreaded FOX. No mention on CNN or MSNBC.
What are the Liberals looking for? Obama to step down?.
There is a woman missing; heartless bunch of immature characters. You!
I think the Liberals are looking for a hand out. No change there.
um all you people up there except meganame really have issues..Obviously she is gone. When I say gone..it usually means deceased..what because it didn't happen to you you have to be callous..well you knows. There is no telling what happened to her and as human beings this isn't something to JOKE about. Anna I hope they find you alive, but from the signs bloody clothes...no check out...it seems hopeless..so I hope they find the person(s) responsible for this.
Is Yale a "gun free zone?"
Interesting how she was worried about becoming a victim, knowing that whe was of diminutive stature.
Packing some heat, though, might have leveled the playing field.
Oh yea. I forgot. Guns are bad...
Can't have a gun on a college campus.
It is most shocking to see the lack of value for a human life here. Is this why you are for Abortion?, even late term Abortion? Life doesn't matter whether it is a fetus or a young woman who had so much to give to her fellow mankind. Medicine.
I know there is a majority of Liberals on this board. It is shameful to know that your group is cold blooded and uncaring. Much like Obama.
You would fit well with the Arabic type of thinking. They are waiting for you to come and visit.
New Haven is an awful place. Yale has an unbelievable fortune of money and could have moved out years ago but elected not to do so as it would not be "politically correct". Same with Columbia. I'm very sorry for the suspected victim and her loved ones. Yale is to blame.
She probably discovered a cure for Cancer and was terminated.
The greedy SOBs that have sucked our country clean won't
stop until anyone not like them are eliminated. Shame so many
who call themselves Christians support these evil mongers.
Sorry Meganame does have issues--is there any subject under the sun that you could respond to without mentioning President Obama? Your sick obsession with him and so-called "liberals" is bordering on pathological. Get yourself some help please.
Bloody clothes found hidden above the ceiling tiles, an incinerator inside the lab building, and no photographic evidence of her departure from the lab-doesn't look like there will be a good outcome. However, the upside is that they have photos of everyone entering and departing the building the day of her disappearance, that should certainly aid the investigation. Sounds similar to the recent disappearance of the cleaning woman in the NY office tower, where the building's janitor has been charged with her murder after finding her body stuffed up above the ceiling tiles.
No video of anyone entering or leaving the lab. Bloody clothes found in the drop down ceiling. Is the ventilation shaft big enough to crawl through?
This looks like it's going to be a graphic horror, but I sure hope it proves me wrong. She looks like such a sweet girl.
hopeforever ..that is a thought...Docs don't want that all important cure...that would mean too much dollars out of their pockets...too bad..it could extend so many wonderful peoples lives....
forusmith
I think someone killed her
NO????????? really???? someone????
Water....New Haven is actually a great town....and no different than any other....I went to college in New Haven and downtown is really geared towards Yale....Although, I and a lot of my fellow college buddies continually joked about Yalies while in college, I dont' believe the Univ should be held accountable...You can't protect everyone, sorry to say...I think it's presumptive to point the finger of blame before getting all the fact and the fact is that they city and Univ have been very tight lipped about this and can only think they are trying to put a case together...very carefully..in order to ensure the person that is found as the culprit, is found guilty, without any doubt in anyone's mind...
What kind of idiotic nonsense is being brought to this thread concerning politics, particularly about ACORN/President Obama/Dems, etc.? This is about a beautiful young woman with a bright future, and who was about to be married, being murdered. Stupid question, but have you conservatives flipped your gourds? Don't you have ANY common sense as to go to gripe on THAT thread that talks about politics, as opposed to THIS thread? Are you so partisan, that you'll blame the President for the sun merely rising in the sky? Geez...
I wasnt surprised if shes killed. I find chinese women annoying. The most ridiculous thing is when friends say they cant imagine someone hating her.
HAH, sounds like a double face monster to me. Let me guess, shes very nice to white people, asskissing almost but felt she is a superior being to non whites, even asian males.
Another ridiculous thing is when someone say, she might have contribute something to science. HAH, honey dont kid yourself, most asians cheat their way to college graduation. Their thesis papers are done by someone else.
Good riddance I say, give that job to another American who needs the job.
Why was the Press ringing the door bell of Le”s fiancée Johathan Widawsky the day after finding her body? The press shows no sympathy or respect for the grieving. What were they going to ask him that would be news, how do you feel?
what?
i feel so sorry for the family. This is such a tragedy.
This a jewel of a derail, meganame. Between this and calling folks 'terrorists in the making', you're suspended for a day for violating #1 and #5 of the Code of Honor.
Keep politics in the politics section.
My first thought was they need to take a second look at the fiance---remember Hacking, Markoff and of course Scott Peterson, all presumed innocent in the beginning.
You're beyond jerk! You're sick.
Don't you suppose this had to be done by someone already in the building? You would think they would have a picture of someone who possibly come in earlier, I'm sure the police know more right now than what they are saying and that's alright we don't need to know right now. No matter what it is just another terrible thing happening to our young women today. If this is this young lady my heart goes out to the family and relatives and by remembering all the good times with her will be of some help. God bless them.
Bizzare. Not a crime of passion. Not a crime of opportunity. Too well executed.
My guess would be maintenance worker. He'd know every nook and cranny of that building and hiding places.....and would have seen her on many occasions and would probably have a pretty good idea of her daily patterns.
This is no joke to the jokesters that made crude comments about this young woman in the first discussion of the missing student..
She is dead. How do you feel now?
I knew this Fed Agent was a real nut case. His remarks about this woman were just awful. People like this don't deserve attention..
Hope MSNBC keeps him off the board forever. Thanks MSNBC!
Probably took her own life.
The rates of suicide among Asian women is way higher than the average, for cultural reasons.
They push themselves so hard on many levels- so my guess would be suicide.
Plus she had access to chemicals and knows better than most of us how to kill herself with a concoction she can make in that lab.
My guess it is a Sex Offender.
They always seem to kill women after they are let out of prison. Sex Offenders should be locked up for life.
We have way too many Sex Offenders in this country roaming about free will.
Ethan: I don't think she did it herself. She was inbetween a Wall?---someone would have had to cut open the wall. It is so very tragic and brutal.
Yes, she had access to chemicals, but didn't need to hide herself. A deranged person would do something like this.
I am assuming she made a concoction at the lab, walked to the nook in the wall, laid down and drank it/ injected it.
OF course she wanted to hide herself.
Most people who take their lives make sure it would be difficult to save them- like DJ AM who just killed himself- he had mirrors laid against both doors, so that it would be difficult to break in and save him.
That is exactly the point- to make sure it would be too late when you are found and you will not have to deal with the shame and have to deal with all the stress and problems that caused your need to kill yourself.
Really?? She stuck her bloody clothes in a ceiling space and went to the wall to kill herself?
and I actually heard of 2 cases in Yale of students who raped (allegedly) female students in date-rape and the thing was hushed (the reputation of Yale and of the young gentleman is surely more important...).
One of those students is supposed tobe a doctor now.
However, while I think Yale's unofficial "policy" of quieting such complaints, has nothing to do with this case, since there's no date with another guy, and the location is in a lab, the woman had knoledge and access to everything needed to commit suicide and she was both in a beginning of an academic year, which is always a stressful time, PLUS was about to get married.
To be, it sounds like she cracked under the pressure and decided to kill herself. That is, assuming the fiance hadn't done it (NYC and New Haven are very close- just a matter of an hour, and hour and a half drive.
So I would check her cell phone and his phone records- to see if they talked to meet up, and he might have visited her there.
But other than that, it's sounds like another case of an Asian woman who pushed herself too hard and decided to take her own life.
Pepster- "her bloody clothes in a ceiling space and went to the wall to kill herself?"
Obviously, if her bloody clothes were found in a ceiling, and her own body naked is in a different place- then it is a homicide. No question about that.
I was only speculating based on the things we know so far.
Because of the surveillance equipment, it will be very difficult for the perpetrator to keep from being apprehended. Lie detectors should be mandatory for all employees who work at the lab building. That would really be an extreme way for someone to commit suicide, however, nothing can be ruled out this early in an investigation.
Remember the cleaning lady who disappeared just a couple months ago in a New York office tower, and was later found stuffed above the ceiling tiles in one of the offices, I believe the janitor was charged with the crime. A truly bizarre and sad ending for this promising young woman's life.
Oh my... This is the worst possible outcome. My heart and thoughts remain with Ms. Le's family, friends and loved ones.
If it is her, may she rest in peace. This is just terrible... Why would anyone do this to her? It's beyond incomprehensible.
It has to be someone who knows the layout and the security systems of the buildings , because it took the police about a week to find her in that small area. It is a sad and terrible ending for this young and promising woman's life.
If the cops focused less on whether this girl might be a runaway bride and more on who had access to that research building, they would have found her body sooner. Hiding bloody clothes and her body in ceilings and walls would lead one to believe that the assailant was in construction - a person with temporary access and no background check. Was the building under renovations? A woman was murdered in a New York building a year or so ago by a construction worker who would not have typically had access to the premises. For runaway brides, if that is how it turns out (not applicable in this case), they should be charged for every red cent spent by public services on locating their neurotic a22es and judgment liens filed against them if they don't pay the bill. Other young women who were clearly not neurotic or attention seekers should not be tarred with the same brush and precious time wasted in pursuing their killers.
FORMER FED AGENT
Someone needs to take a look at you??
Ethan30 that explains the bloody clothes in the attic MAYBE you should get all your info together before
making stupid comments??
the boy friend has been cleared he was at Columbia besides you need a pass card to get into this place !!
dragonmaster well executed ?? he left the body behind he left evidence IE: bloody clothes probably DNA he needed a pass card to get into the building YOU MY FRIEND ARE PLAYING TOO MANY VIDEO GAMES DRAGONMASTER INDEED
Amen.
Am I the only one wondering at the conjunction of the comments that she was found "stuffed into a wall" in a "high security campus building"? Maybe it's some lingering addiction to logic, but anyplace where someone can murder you, disrobe you, hide your bloody clothes in a ceiling, and find both time and opportunity to somehow stick your body in a wall, all while evading detection for at least a week is NOT, precisely speaking and to my mind, "high security"... "Restricted access"? Yeah, okay, I can buy that, but "high security"? Hoo-boy, that is stretching the concept.
Unfortunately, that coinage was probably concocted by Yale. Colleges are regular hot beds of crime where parents unwittingly send some of their most vulnerable children, most on their own for the first time, to be preyed upon. Most colleges also go out of their way to deny that fact and it is not uncommon for both town and gown to work, hand in hand, to hide, from anxious parents, the extent of crime on campus. It was that way 40 years ago when I was in school. The university had built some high rise dorms (mostly housing freshmen, since nobody else wanted to occupy them) overlooking the river and separated from the main campus by a huge field and a large complex of tennis courts. Those tennis courts quickly became "rape central", the equivalent, for female students, of wildebeasts crossing a crocodile infested river on the plains of the Serengeti. Yet the university went out of its way to hide that fact until it got so bad (at least 34 reported rapes in a single month and 18 in one week) that it couldn't be ignored and even then they tried to underplay the danger, lest they have to spend money on security or write off their big, new, expensive dorms. The only thing that has changed since then is that crime has gone up, the economic stakes have gone up, and college administrators have gotten even more practiced and determined in denying and hiding crime on campus.
So, I guess I'm wondering how, ultimately, Yale is going to explain the failure of their "high security" facilities to protect Ms. Le and I'm wondering how many other students are working alone, late at night, in mostly empty buildings, under the illusion that the college's "high security" systems are guarding their backs.
Ethan 30 - sure, she committed suicide and then put herself inside the wall. How would she be able to move? Most people don't squeeze themselves behind walls when they take their own life.
Olde Fart. Yale should have some explaining to do. This sort of thing seems to be getting more common college campuses. However, if the killer was another student, that would explain how that person legitimately gained access to the building. You never know when your crazy co-worker is going to go off their tree.
Thank God for professional police work. You guys were ready to blame it on the Janitor (with no proof), oh, and I forgot, Liberals were to blame for this, too!!
Sex offender most likely but maybe not. Great that Yale didn't try to shove it under the carpet but they have a large endowment, prestigious, so....
Sex offenses are big on campuses. Some are actually induced. Some succeed, some not.
I attended The University of Iowa back in the early 80's. As an older student, male, trying to better myself, I was UNWANTED by some of the elitist scum. The older student at Iowa had not quite made their presence in 1980, so finding someone to identify with me became somewhat problematic to the ever present sociologists. It's quite amazing how these people try their best to get all the birds of a feather flying together and not separate the classes. Actually, I think that they are more concerned with class jumping.
At any rate, trying to better myself, I attended summer sessions as well as the regular terms during the traditional school year. During the summer, a student like myself with little extra money can sublet a fairly nice apt. One place was on S. Johnson St., the scene of wall-to-wall parties during the summer. I moved into a 5 BR with 3 former football players, now law students, and one guy who had just gotten out of prison (had 5-DUI's). One of the law students had a live-in 19-yr old girl friend, a hottie from a well-to-do family and who was not a student but worked at one of THEIR massage parlors, giving hand-jobs. Kids from well-to-do family often find higher paying but less traditional jobs.
For the most part, I was a loner among this group, staying home to study. And, I had no money anyway.
One Sat afternoon, the hottie and a couple of her girl friends, ages 15 and 16, were out drinking at a bar which was located close to the apt. If you were in the in crowd, then drinking as a minor in Iowa City was not an issue. The 3 arrived at the apt that afternoon, wanting to smoke some pot. Having found out the ages of the 2 girls, I left the area entirely to find some viable witnesses to verify where I was that day (I ain't no dummy, especially having no money, not being wanted in IC in the first place, and not being Jew, Catholic and/or Episcopalian). Oh, did I mention that I am White?
Time passed. A couple of weeks later, being home alone studying, the 15 yr old shows up wanting to smoke some pot with her girl friend who wasn't home. She looked pretty good, I must admit. Halter top, short shorts, etc. Then, she came onto me, wanting to smoke with me. I told her that I didn't have any but if I gave her some money, she could go buy some, then come back to smoke. I gave her 10 bucks (this was 1980). She left.
I then went out the window of my BR in back, slipped in the darkness to the alley where I saw a couple of IC detectives sitting in an unmarked police car. They did not see me. So, I went around to the front of the apt bldg where 3 IC cops were sitting in a black and white. They seemed to be waiting on something. I suspected that they were waiting on the 15 yr old to come back with the pot so that they could raid the apt to find me smoking pot with a 15 yr old. And, whatever molestation charges they could manufacture.
Again, I left the area quickly and found some viable witnesses. I remained there all night, returning to the apt to pack my stuff to leave. I withdrew from the University the following Monday. I returned a couple of years later with some money in my pocket and completed my degree.
Thus, this is a case of power trying to kill a few birds with one stone. Firstly, they get rid of an unwanted older student. Secondly, they send a non-Catholic, non-Jew, non-Episcopalian to prison for a few years. Thirdly, they screw up the life of a high-achiever. Marxist scum hate achievers.
What?????? How long have you been without sleep or your meds?????
I'm sure this case will be wrapped up soon as to all the security protocol such as the 75 survellance camera's trained on every door and ID cards for the doors needed to enter the building. The only problem is if these camera's views were being taped. It would have to be someone that was very close to her to commit such a horrific crime. It could possibly be a love triangle such as in the case of the NASA astronaut that traveled from Texas to Florida with BB gun's, diapers, latex gloves, rope, etc. Whatever happened, it was carefully planned out, just as these students are trained to behave. So it's obviously someone with as much ambition as this woman whom was murdered to carry out this crime and still get away with it and such a person could possilby have inside access to surviellance personnel to get them to possilby cover this up with bribes. These are only students mind you, not professionals, therefore more easily bought out with money bribes to cover up such a gruesome murder. This person will be caught as now the threat of the future of whomever helped her will be threatened upon interrogation. These students will easily crack just as they likely succombed to money bribes. Just first interrogate the security personnel. That's just a given ofcourse.
Some are actually induced? Forget it, I don't even want to hear your "rationale" for that one.
Just figured it was someone who secretly watched her, knew her movements and her well and just snapped because she was getting married.
You cannot protect yourself from every nut out there. You have to just hope you will not run into them. Thanks goodness we outnumber them or there would be no hope. Guess I believe in fate - if something is going to happen it will. Seldom can you outsmart fate.
Ethan30 wrote "I actually heard of 2 cases in Yale of students who raped (allegedly) female students in date-rape and the thing was hushed (the reputation of Yale and of the young gentleman is surely more important...). "
What is rape? Rape has been broadened to include consensual sex which days later is deemed unpleasant or even sex that didn't go as well as it should. We've been blasted with the image that date rape is when a man goes into a rage, beats a woman senseless, then ejaculates into her unconscious body. That's wrong.
And, yes. It is important for a place of higher education to be fairly represented. If the rapes did not actually occur, then there is no need to ruin the reputation of a university or the men involved. If the rapes are real, then they should be dealt with by the law, not university security.
I don't have any ideas about the perpetrator, but she was an innocent young woman trying to ear a medical degree and some degenerate decided to snuff out her life. I hope they hang the person in public!!!!
Such a beautiful woman and obviously very intelligent to have achieved what she had. Even the Ivory Tower is no longer immune from the insanity that seems to contaminate everything around us. Mundo Loco. Mundo Loco. So pathetic. What is our future?
The suspect male could have been stalking her for a long time. Also, being a Sex Offender. The end came for him when she was getting married the next day.
The article she wrote in February had something to do with his connection to her killing. She talked about bad people, bad things happening in New Haven, and it must stop.
Twisted minds will go to great lengths to solve their issues with the person committing violent ends, to a what they think is a relationship with the victim;.
I am sure you are right on both counts. I think he wanted to rape her and she fought back. Kudos to her. I am the same weight but a few inches taller and we will fight back.
olzapato,
Well executed? Yes. Well thought out? No. The perp was able to commit the murder and hide the body and get out without being detected, as well as whatever took place before the murder. Do you know how to open the cable raceway? How far apart were the clothes and the body? A quick thinker, I think not, so the fire alarm and whatever disguise to get out without door logging was either figured out beforehand, or, extreme luck. I'm sure the suspect, if guilty, didn't expect to get marked by her, so not well thought out, but still, executed as if preplanned. At least he will be stopped the firsttime. He has obviously never before gone so far or he would have known that he was not too likely to escape permanently. All this supposes that the prime suspect is the perp.
Taina: It may be. The writings in February by Annie Le are very disturbing. Was she writing about this person?. Why did it happen the day before the wedding?
In the Asian culture, it is very hard for them discuss things like this with family and friends. The Asians would consider it shameful on the family.
Soon we will find out what happened. What a waste of a young woman's life. She would have made huge contributions to society.
If it happened at Yale University, it can happen anywhere.
"Clues point to inside job in Yale killing" WOW, I wonder what gave this away? the high security area that requires id cards to be swiped and hundreds of video camera's? Gee, I don't know? that Idea is a little far fetched? either this person who wrote this article is an idiot or worse, our police are? I hope it is the Author!! It sounds like a love triangle, maybe she was seeing this guy behind her fiancee's back and she finally told the guy off because she was getting married or has been for a while and the guy couldn't take it and killed her. when you are obsessed with some one they go crazy!!! you never know? it is a really sad story though, they looked really happy in their pic's. if someone hurt my wife to be or my wife I would find them and do things to them like in SAW, but more slow!!! you don't mess with my family!!!
Our news media at work.
I am sorry the bride is missing but this about the most stupid headline I've ever read.
75 security cameras plus the magnetic cards. This means THEY know who came in and who went out.
Elementary.
Sorry to say or maybe not but people are generally fascinated with mystery and this definitely is a mystery. Not being able to find a record of her leaving the building nor on a surveillance camera is odd to say the least.
Cameras are everywhere (unforunately) and sometimes it is not since this is a way of tracking people down, stating a time frame when a missing person occurs or a crime has been committed.
Jan:
Heartless;, ice runs through your veins. You may be he next target. I'm sure your brain doesn't think that far.
Bad comment. What about this young woman's family.
You should be kept in a freezer. Hopefully this statement wasn't made to get attention. Desperate?
Jan..why is the headline stupid? Wedding cancelled while searching for yale student? I fail to see anything stupid about that or the idea behind it. They merely are stating that the wedding is cancelled not put off while a family HOPES that their loved one is returned although doubtedly safe. Yeah I don't get your comment either..
You sound really sorry. like this young, productive woman in the dawn of life isn't worth your time....poor you. When you or your loved one, if you have any should be treated with the same callous disregard. I pray she has had cold feet but don't get that feeling... God forbid any of you raise a child to adulthood to see her life end tragically. There is nothing funny or trivial about any of this. This has Nothing to do with politics. It is a human interest story and one I pray has a happy ending.
I have a question, if there was 75 cameras and they didn't see her leave, did they see her actually using the key-card to get in (I havent been following up and speed reading the articles)? IF not, could someone have stolen her key-card presuming that there was no video of her arriving and let's say said person used her key-card to get in to the building and dumped her clothing in her lab looking for something that she might have stored at the lab. With it being said there is 75 cameras wouldn't you assume that they caught every person coming in to the building and try to track everyone down and figure out a possible motive, say jealousy of a teachers attention, better financial stability, jealousy over her upcoming nuptial. Lets go a little further, what if the person that killed her was already in the lab from the prior day waiting around because he/she knew what hours she preferred to use the lab, couldn't we check records from the prior day? Let me guess we are going to stand there and hope the person that did it jumps out of the bushes with a bow on his ass screaming you caught me by not looking.
because A. she is up in the rafters somewhere or B. someone took her out in a suitcase or brief cases....
Anomalee23: Where is your heart and respect for a human being who is missing?
Many here sound like Drew Peterson, who's wife Stacy is still missing, and the others murdered by him, yet he had an arrogant and cocky attitude.
Rafters?---this could be someone in your family or you. It is most insulting to talk like this, when it most likely is a murder.
Do you know anyone that has been murdered or died? Seems, life hasn't quite caught up with your compassion for what may be a horrendous outcome.
Disneyland is good, so is Fantasy Island. It is most disturbing to see what is written in many of the comments.
Bet you all would be more sympathetic if it were a dollar in your pocket.
Yeah, 75 cameras. Yale is full of know-it-alls. I live in another (small) Ivy League town. Full of "know-it-all" idiots totally lost in outer space. Why else do you think this country is in such a fine mess? I'm very sorry for the suspected victim and her loved ones. More Ivy League victims. There are so many. Yeah, I know. I'm just jealous. Heard it all before. Jealous of what? Nothing!
Calico;
To answer your question, they have video tape that shows her walking into the building at the same time as her card being used. So they know it was she who entered the building. And they have no record or video tape of her ever leaving.
Ventilation shaft.
"Jan..why is the headline stupid? Wedding cancelled while searching for yale student? I fail to see anything stupid about that or the idea behind it."
Why is the headline stupid? How about a headline telling us that acorns come from trees? Of course it's stupid, because there is nothing at all added by mentioning that the wedding was cancelled. Rather wouldn't be much of a wedding with only one person up there would it?
Waterdog - This country is in so much trouble because majority of the people are high school drop out uneducated oafs who are rather proud of their ignorance and wear it as a badge of honor.
Husbands/boyfriends are *always* the first suspect, even if the police make the usual disclaimer, "Not a suspect at this time..." Still, it seems unlikely she would leave her personal items behind in her office. I think they'll find her body somewhere in the lab building.
Bill-541803 - ok, you don't care for this kind of story? Why did you bother to read it? I don't care for sports news so I don't read it - simple. You wrote 8 lines of text just to express your sarcastic opinion that this is "junk news" and of no value (to you). You're entitled, of course, but why spend so much of life's precious time (reading the article and then typing 8 lines of text) just to say you don't consider this news?
Marysia: Why write four lines just to pick on Bill?
linda ............ Why write one line to pick on Marysia?...... next
Brad - you know what to read into this . . . next
Brad, Janet, Rocky, Brad, Janet, Rocky..Next!
How could the President of the US be responsible of keeping this poor woman safe?
To all of you idiots who say that the President is responsible in someway, drop dead.
I hope they find the low life scum who did this to this girl before he does it to another innocent person.
My sympathy to her family and friends.
Marysia
most people have stupid things to say and do not know what they are even talking about i dont think Bill-541803 read or knows a thing about this item and you have to remember their are a lot of people
on these sites that are like 12
BRAD-285503 you really need to find something to do>>>
I thought these posts were only about the evil Obama, Cheney, Bush, Palin and now added to the list, Wrangel. God rest this young woman. I'm gone.....
Bobins V-tec was Bush's fault. He was the President then Mr. Short Term Memory. That happened nowhere even close to the 2008 election. Should clear that up since ultra conservatives on this blog are insistant that every despicable act of evil is this country is the Presidents fault, even a Murder at a top ranked university.
good points!!!!!
I wonder if they will have to check the landfills due to the two day lapse of confirmed missing report. Poor little girl... :(
the checked the lads incienrator . i said early hey find the body in the air duc . their was a women in new york killed he same way.
It shouldn't have taken that long to find her.
... sounds like a simple case of cold feet to me. Watch ... bet she turns up safe and sound. It has happened many times before.
... at least I pray that is all it is.
Yes, run away bride. Wasn't there a young lady from FLA. some years ago who did the same thing? Lets hope this all it is, just cold feet.
sadly they just found her bloodied body in the ceiling of the lab.......
b dune..... clothes..... where does it say body?
brad
you are correct - there was a report by another news source a body had been found and the police refuted this and said only clothes........and the news source changed their report to this.
good catch.
Rick - it was the Jennifer Wilbanks case in Georgia. Unfortunately, I get the feeling that the young lady in this article is not the same. Finding bloody clothing is not a good sign. I hope she is okay.
MRI:
What if she is not found safe and sound?.
Gees, Liberals, what is wrong with you? That's why I definitely wouldn't be a good one. You're too callous and do not care about the human race.
The Liberals claim to be sensitive and caring. All I see are a bunch of minds who's elevator doesn't go to the top. Self centered, spoiled, and mindless..
They have not confirmed that the bloodied clothes that were found were hers.
A couple years ago a young lady from Wisconsin faked her kidnapping for attention, the State paid to search for her and everything.
I am not sure what happened here, its hard to tell if it was cold feet or not, but isn't there better ways to deal with cold feet.
nope bloody clothes already made an appearance and I have a bad feeling they are hers..usually not wrong on these things.
Meganame:
Just FYI not all Liberials are callous and don't care. I tend to be more liberal than not and this saddens me greatly. Anytime something like this happens it is very disturbing. Whether or not it is an abortion or anit-abortion activist or the family of the Iraq police officer who's family was killed by insurgents this morning, anytime a human life is taken needlessly in violence is a sad day.
All of you talking trash and making useless comments on here need to be ashamed of yourselves. Regardless of your political or religious view, this is a sad and horrible situation and needs to be addressed as so. A little more respect for human life please. Imagine if this was your daughter, niece, fiance or family member.
How in God's name does a missing woman who has been potentially murdered in the prime of her life become a Liberal vs. Conservative debate? Some of you folks need to stop using your brains as clipboards and bring some original thoughts that are actually pertinent to the topic at hand.
As for the girl and her family, my prayers go out to them. As bleak as the situation looked for that 11-year old girl who was abducted nearly 20-years ago, she managed to survive, so until they find conclusive proof that this woman is dead, the family should still have some hope. Stranger things have happened - as we just witnessed a few weeks ago.
Jay I am wondering the same thing. When I am reading comments made here I almost feel like am I on the right tread I thought this story was about a missing young woman.
Those who can't let go of politics or name calling such as "Liberals or Conservatives" need to get some theraphy. Life is not all about politics!
I'd have to agree with the maintainence angle. Somebody from that dept would indeed know all those "nooks and crannies", and where every camera was and every camera angle, on top of what they're sayin' that the body was found IN a wall. Hmmm....
Creepy janitor did it.
Who wants to bet the janitor in that building turns out to be an illegal alien?
What story are you folks reading? The article says (as of 9:45 AM PST) that they found a BODY and now have a suspect in custody. Hardly a "runaway bride" situation...
Granted, Jennifer Willibanks did a major disservice to womankind with her runaway bride hoax, but this is clearly NOT that situation.
This whole "conversation" is disturbing. Suicide? Runaway bride? You people must be idiots! Students in grad school typically have their lives planned in advance. You are talking about and making fun of a person you don't even know. You should all get jobs and make yourselves productive citizens. May God rest her soul.
maintenance man
Tomato, Tomah-to.
Why are they canceling the Wedding is it because of the BRIDE won't be there. these news networks now a days need to send their reporters back to school and get some brains just how stupid are some of these people. What they might be thinking she left to go out and have a one last fling and then going to show up on Sunday for the wedding. I never took journalisim in school but I thing I can write better stories than these goof balls.
Where did the blood come from---a slaughtered cow?
This is so very, very, tragic. I wonder what on God's good earth motive could have been? One would assume that the killer would have had to have knowledge of the building---probably knew her---worked with her? How much struggle could a 90 lb. female have put up? Let's see who's DNA is on her and/or on those clothes? We'll have a nice, fair, trial; then, we'll hang him.
No, Stan. We won't hang him. He'll (assuming it's a he) get a light sentence and be free in 15 years for good behavior so s/he can kill someone else. That's precisely why there is so much of this BS now. If we killed them immediately after they are proven to be guilty, they wouldn't later be able to reproduce themselves.
AMEN Stan. Not only will he/she get a light sentence, but we're all stuck paying taxes so that these maniacs can have a roof over their heads and 3 squared a day - FREE HEALTHCARE, and so much more. How many hard working Americans can't claim to have these things???!!!
What a stupid headline news is really getting hardup to post somrthing like this.
This is NOT a news story. Really. Is it that important when we are in a depression, people are losing jobs, and we're fighting two wars?
It is not worthy of such a long piece - in the scheme of things no one knows her.
Please. MSNBC, cover true stories and not fluff.
Petered.... in the future please don't make STUPID comments, no one knows or cares about you.... so go away.
I guess compassion is not one of your strong suits?!?
Peterd..Msnbc is NOT just about news..jeez don't you people get it..there are tabs...sports..entertainment...crime...weird news....life....ok??? why do they put sports articles on the front page??? because they do. So the next person that says this isnt news..go over to TMZ..or OMG..cuz that..my dears is not news..you will prob find what you are looking for there.
There are plenty of other stories on the Internet, Peter. If something is not of interest to you, do not read it. Obviously, it interested you enough to comment on it, though.
Peter
Since when is murder fluff? You must be some work of art. Hope your not this compassionate with your family.
MSNBC is awful about coverage. They only tell you what they want to (and very slanted at that) instead of giving you all the news so you can (gasp) use your own brain to make your own conclusions on it. They really need to learn it's JUST THE FACTS PLEASE!!!
Ignore Peter...he's a **** brain
Peter...pathetic.
I hope she just got cold feet and ran away. It may be embarassing, but at least she will be alive.
i doubt it. they've paid for a wedding already. not normal in this asian custom.
coreys mom ....... so its "normal" in the USA?....... that would be a twisted/racist comment. I don't think you understand that.
Brad - I believe Corey's Mom meant that it would not be customary in the girl's Asian culture to cancel a wedding. They put a lot more thought into marrying than westerners and typically they would go through with the ceremony as planned. In any event, Corey's Mom's comments are not twisted or racist as you allege.
12345, that is correct. brad you misunderstood the comment. i don't have a racist bone in my body. my co workers,friends and family will verify that. :)
12345-coreys........ you both are racist..... canceling a wedding in the USA is not normal ether.... or anywhere for that matter.... stating "asian" in your response...THAT IS RACIST...... look it up.... you don't even know that you are racist.... that is funny
The detective in the video accompanying this article stated that a suspect fire alarm was pulled about 2 hours after Ms. Le had been in the building. He stated that many in the research building had exited in lab coats and that it would be difficult to catch/discern who was who. It would be easy for a person to don a lab coat and move through the crowd to exit the building. Also the detective stated that a parking garage connected to the building would provide easy access for someone to get away. Though Ms. Le left her purse and phone, the detective stated she had her ID/entrance card. We hope this is just a case of runaway bride. However, elaborate escape plans have been carried out before. The woman could get an untraceable cell phone at any side store. Purses and bags can be replaced and she could be moving with cold cash. If she's smart enough to be pursuing a double doctorate then she's clever enough to plan an escape. Not saying she did this. Otherwise she has probably been abducted and may be dead. Cadaver dogs are being used in the search. This story is getting attention because it involves mystery and intrigue in an ivey league environment. Like anyone I hope she hasn't been taken.
Intern 1
A lot of crap goes on in collage. Hazing for example. I read that a lot of rapes happen also and they cover it up because they don't want bad publicity that would keep parents from enrolling their kids and stop the endowments. To my mind, it seems college kids are targeted more than average. Remember Bundy and the guy in Gainsville, Florida? You will probably call me crazy, but these satanic cults like to sacrifice intellegent people. Remember Mark Kilroy in metamourros? The leader of these crazies told them to go out and find someone "smart" for a sacrifice. and this was a very intellegent girl. Don't be too quick to dismiss it, in this world, nothing is too far fetched.
Yes - the alarm was probably erroneously triggered by her murderer stuffing her body in the wall. Too bad the police didn't search the walls to begin with instead of speculating that she might be a runaway bride.
Yale has offered $10,000 reward!?
Shows how little Yale values it's graduate students.
So right...and with all the endowment money Yale has--ubelievably cheap!
I think the boyfriend may be responsible. Weird they said the cameras showd no sign of her leaving the building.
Another man hater. How do you know that?
showed...showed! showed!!!!!!
*sigh*
I don't think it was the boyfriend although that is where police always logically look first.
He was at college in NY I believe it is.
I'm wondering what the police poured over the blueprints and surveillance video footage. Seems anything they poured would ruin the paper and video...but I suppose they are the experts.
Chi,
Just in case:
I'm not sure if you are joking or not. Maybe you just are not familiar with one of the definitions of "pouring over" (if you are an ESL student)
In this reference, "pouring over" means "to look at carefully and intently", "to inspect/study". Linguistically, I have no idea how this term came to be used for intense study; perhaps someone compared their scrutiny to poured syrup, inching slowly over each piece of "whatever". (in this case, evidence)
So, the police would be taking the time to look very carefully at the blueprints and videos, not physically pouring something over them.
Oh, you mean they meant they were "poring over" the material. That makes more sense.
i'm sure the family of this missing girl don't feel its a "stupid" headline. and when they found bloody clothes in the ceiling i'd be freakin, if this were my daughter. being in a lab, the perpetrator (also probably a med student) knew how to get rid of a body with chemicals, and sharp instruments. be curious how it unfolds. if the fiance was in california (yet to be determined), he obviously will be dismissed as a suspect. theres still the wonder...where is she? and why would someone do this to her..
You want to know why people do such things? First of all, children don't have parents anymore-they have friends who don't teach them right from wrong and they get whatever it is they want. If they don't, then they will find a way whether it is legal or not. Second, a perp has more rights than you or I do. They will get a slap on the wrist. They will go to prison, pump iron, eat 3 meals, get medical treatment and dental treatment (yeah, I know it's not the best but better than nothing), cable TV, radios, exercise, etc....What does the victim get and their families? Torture, heartache, a lifetime of misery, etc.
We are raising a bunch of ingrates who think it's cool to murder because they'll be on all the news stories. They have NO discipline anymore. They fear NO ONE, especially parents and teachers. In fact, it is the other way around.
Look at our society now, that what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right. Do you even wonder any more? I don't. I know why. We're a sick sadistic society!! We've already forgotten the victims of 9/11. Proof of that is the way America bends over backwards for muslims such as foot baths at airports, special schools, and foot baths for cabbies. I'm sure the families of the victims appreciate reading those kinds of "Stupid" headlines!!
fritzsmom, way to show how uneducated you are. pre-1900's modern society involved more rape, murder, and thievery than exists today. 1900-2000 saw a dramatic decrease, and post 2000 modern society has less of these crimes than at any time in human history. the problem is idiots like you get worked up over sensational headlines rather than checking facts. you keep soaking up the sensationalism then spout how terrible our society is now. it is truly sad people like you are even allowed to vote. i sincerely hope you aren't somebody's mom in real life.
Morons like you look to the past. I'm talking about the here and now. Don't you even dare say that kids haven't lost all respect when I see news stories all the time of kids beating their teachers, beating people on buses. We are supposed to be a more civilized society today, are we not? So what does the past have to do with the crimes of today? Not a damn thing.
I am a good American. I didn't vote for the marxist, socialist, communist obama like I am so certain you did. I believe in free enterprise, I believe in choice and if there is anyone out there who doesn't and wants the socialist way, then move to the country north of us but don't force it on us. Our Constitution is not founded on socialist values or communist values. I said that to inform you that I love America, more than someone who goes to other countries and apologizes for America.
Our justice system doesn't do it's job and protect us from monsters like the one who undoubtedly took Ms. Le. Now, get over yourself. Real American my ass!
fritzsmom, you are a moron. first, you have no idea about the meaning of socialist and communist otherwise you would not be so stupid to associate our President with those words. You are slo arrogant and have no knowledge about our history. You should go to FOXnews because it is more your level and your ideology.
What has the disapearance of the Yale student to do with Obama or socialists? You are not a good American; you are a dumb American!
And yes, history has everythign to do with it. The reason you "see these headlines" now is because of the technology we have today to bring them to you.
The fact is, that prior generations were far worse off in crime, children still commited crimes, people still killed people. You just didn't hear about it because we didn't have the ability to send it right to your computer in less than a second. But the fact still remains that they had more incidents, just because you weren't aware of them doesn't make them not true. I can play your game too....Typical closed minded conservative, if I can't see it happening, it doesn't exhist.!!!!
Fritzsmom: Your statement here is direct and, clear. Thank you.
What has happened to today's society. Sadistic, yes, A majority of people on this board can be described as this.
There have been many of types of missing young woman, very few are found alive. Some are run aways---this one does not seem to be the case. Finding bloodied clothing, and a youn woma who had everything to live for.
Men who kill these young women are either Socieopaths or Psychopaths. This woman may have been in an abusive realtionship. That we do not know yet. No wedding.
It is most disturbing to read the comments. Most have been desensitized to violence because of the movies and violence seen on TV. They must think this is normal. Where are caring parents who teach their children the sanctity of life?
It is a me society, neglecting the needs of our children. Parents needs come before their child's. Lessons taught? Value life.
The nation has forgotten the Garridos. Jaycee--so much violence and crazy happenings, no one can focus on each individual one for any length of time.
Drugs play the biggest part in any kind of murder and violence. Drug Cartels are creating Americans as zombies and it is easy to kill while under the influence. There is no feeling for the act.
It's time to declare War on Drugs along with the Terrorists.
Please excuse my spelling errors. Typing with no glasses/contacts. I do know the correct spelling of young, woman, Sociopath, relationship.
Thanks for your understanding.
MSNBC, it would be great if you had Spell Check!
Actually, Meganame, there IS a spell checker here on Newsvine ... right ^there ... see the ABC with the check mark? ...
And as I previously stated; I had hoped this was a case of "cold feet" ... it certainly appears in light of bloodied clothes in the ceiling and now a "body" that appears to be homicide ...
My heart and prayers go out to her family for a life snuffed out so soon and so tragically. Peace to them now in their time of grief and mourning. I hope they find the killer(s) quickly and with justice served.
All you freaky posters above who disagree with Fritzsmom - prove the statistics you state. Life was bloody treacherous back in history but not for the comparisons you make. It was treacherous mostly because of lack of proper nutrition, lack of proper housing, living in filthy, contaminated conditions, with no clean, running water, or sanitation capabilities, etc. Yes, children had to steal and pick pockets to help their families survive. All well documented by Charleston Dickens or I should say romantically embellished. But you are still incorrect in your assertions about there being more murders and other crimes.
We already had a 'war' on drugs that didn't work.
RealAmerican and , your respective post histories are awful. You're each suspended for a week for violating #1 and #5 of the Code of Honor.
politicos, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Do better.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it not long ago that someone went missing and either they or their clothes were fond in a ceiling? This sound familiar to me.
Yes, it was a cleaning lady in NYC (I think). They found her stuffed in a vent in the ceiling.
Women aren't safe anywhere as long as there are sex offenders running around everywhere.
WHEN will they start putting these men away for good? They cannot be cured and there are
out there lurking for their next victim. When you have judges that give a year to a known sex
offender of a little innocent 4 yr old girl....well....something is horribly wrong with our justice system.
These stupid men judges have no clue as to what pain these victims go through, and suffer the
rest of their lives. I would vote for castration in a heart beat if I were given the chance! Low-life
men like this do NOT belong on the outside to prey on the innocent.
JG:
While I agree with you on sex offenders, there is no proof yet that one committed this murder. Usually, the victim is killed by someone they know. It could be a co-worker who was jealous. We will have to wait and see.
I recently did a project for a Dr in one of these large research facilities. They are huge, with many (1000s) of people working in and coming and going. Finding the killer from a video will be a daunting project.
whose to decide whats good journalism, and what is not? my opinion may be different than yours, thats why its called a free conuntry, the blessed freedom of speech. i've seen it used poorly before, but its their right to do so.
What do they mean, the fiance isn't a suspect? Did anybody clear that with Nancy Grace?
Yeah, really since she is all knowing when it comes to who committed a crime and who didn't.
That's right. If Nancy says ya did it, ya did it. LoL. A number of years ago, I got a Neilsen TV rating form and wrote on there that Nancy Grace was the most irritating person I had ever seen on television. I think they read what I wrote and then gave her her own show.
Wired Writer, I wondered for years who was to blame for that debacle on CNN. So...YOU'RE the one to blame huh? lol
I was hoping she'd come home alive and well. But when I read that they had found bloody clothing, I just teared up. This woman had so much potential to do great things for people who suffer from disease. If she is no longer with us, we have truly lost a talented soul. I feel real bad for her fiance, her friends, her classmates and mostly her family. This is just tragic news that breaks my heart completely!
I was thinking the same thing, such a beautiful talented young woman who had so much potential to do so many great things. I truely feel bad for her, her family, and friends. Many prayers to them all.
Yes, such a bright young woman with so much to offer her country, family and friends.
Anyone wanna bet that the perp had a rap sheet a mile long??? Probably been in the pen already and out for "good behavior" or maybe some scum sucking lawyer got him off on a technicality the first offence. They probably had a bad childhood or some other freakin' excuse for their bad adult behavior/choices.
There should be records of who got into the building with their card, shouldn't be a big deal to talk to all those folks and check them out. I hope they catch them to give the family some closure. My prayers are with them.
My heart goes out to those who love her, she will be missed by many....
some of us care enough about people to like to know about the "fluff". nothing we can do about the wars, nor the economy, peter d, so we can spend time talking with each other trying to figure out this thing.
I maybe she did get cold feet.And took off some were ,till she desided if she wanted to get married.But he should have left a note or called someone to let her family know shes ok.Unless she was being made to get married.And didn't want to get married.So she took off .Thats what I thought till they found bloody clothes hidden .Now could have someone kidnaped her or killed her .Like exboyfriend or a jelouse stalker.or someone jelouse of her and the work she was doing.But I pray she is alive.
I read a source that says the bloody clothes were found in a ceiling in the lab and her body was found there. Apparently she has been killed.
This story echoes that of Eridania Rodriguez who was killed earlier this year. The videotape showed her entering her building to go to work but then there was never any footage of her leaving. The killer was the building elevator operator. He strangled her then hid her body in an air conditioning duct. So it's probably the same case here. Unless they find footage or evidence of her leaving the building, I think her body must be hidden somewhere inside, just like how they found the clothes in the ceiling- her body very well may be there too.
we shall see what we shall see...but; all good, well thinking humans pray and hope for the best for anyone...when given these unbelievable circumstances during such trying times already...and even when times are good....people still wish for good things to occur for their fellow-humans...only insensitive clods think poorly about their fellow human beings...as your Mom may have told you; "...if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all!"
i think the body is still there..some place. detectives should go over the building with a fine tooth comb. i.e footage of her entering...no footage of her leaving. pretty obvious!
corey's mommy, you are so right! I thought the same thing, why were there no footage of her leaving the building, but they had it of her entering. finally, someone smartened up. i think this all has to do with jealousy, maybe even a woman, afterall, Le was so tiny, and she was on her way to a wonderful life. i think she may have been aware of she was being stalked. friends said she was street smart and aware of her surroundings. what a horrible thing for the fiance to go through.
i rest my case....
but maybe she trusted her attacker. possibly a fellow student who gained her trust, then methodically planned her demise.