How should the U.S. respond to North Korea's nuclear test?
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How should the U.S. respond to North Korea's nuclear test?
How should the U.S. respond to North Korea's nuclear test?
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North Korea should be told they will get nothing from anyone until they cease their nuclear program. Blockade 24/7 365 days a year. If North Korea attacks anyone obliterate North Korea. Any food or provisions given will be routed to the army.
this is a real bind for Obama, we already have troops spread all over the middle east, so we sure can't send troops over there, because they want them in Iraq for 10 yrs now and Obama doesn't have it in him to drop a bomb on them and if you think China and Russia are going to do anything you are sadly mistaken. You heard them threaten the U.S. , not China or Russia! Now Mr. Obama step up to the plate!!
"North Korea should be told they will get nothing from anyone until they cease their nuclear program."
i think that is a broken record....playing over and over again
Yorkie here again
The US is best when it is at war, it should bomb North Korea into the stone age.
We need a less naive President who doesn't believe that all people are good and that Kim Jong Il is just misunderstood. The guy is nothing but a power hungry liar taking advantage of the world's fear. We should bomb his nuclear and missile sites. After Desert Storm he, and the Chinese and Russians, know that he would never stand a chance against us on the ground anyway. And we're not spread too thin for that. There's 30,000 Marines in Japan who are there solely as a quick response to any N Korean aggression. That's also not counting any Japanese or S Korean forces. I'm sure they're tired of Kim Jong Il on their doorstep.
let ugly pelosi go over there and handle them like she did the cia
All nations of the world should cease and desist providing assistance of any kind to North Korea, isolate the country and blockade the ports. A rogue nation such as North Korea can not be negotiated with today or in the future for past history itself proves that North Koreas leadership can not be trusted.
We have troops spread throughout the Middle East, and I believe that any invasion of NK would be much tougher than anybody we've fought since the invasion of Europe in WWII. Korea, no way, not as militarized. Vietnam, nope, still just guerillas, abiet powerful ones. The 2 Gulf Wars, not a chance, the actual military folded in 3 weeks, with the guerillas still holding out.
I think a quick strike against their nuclear reactor would be a good decision, not a nuclear strike, because that would open up a can of worms. Unless we can get the "Nuclear Club" (US,UK, Fr. China, Russia, Pakistan, India) to agree to launch a nuclear strike against them; India and Pakistan would be the most important, because they are almost in a state of war and armed, and any nuclear attacks made by us could be a signal for them to start a nuclear war, and with India's population, that death toll could reach pretty high up into the millions.
As far as conventional military goes, we don't have the troop. NK is heavily entrenched, they absolutely aren't "terrorists", they're a real military that trains all of the time. Our military wouldn't be prepared at all, our troops now are used to urban combat against small, untrained units. NK certainly won't be like that. We'd have a few months of heavy losses until the survivors get their butts in gear, but then we'd be stretched too thin in Iraq.
Any invasion would have to be a coalition, led by China or Russia preferably, with our Navy providing the most support out of our military.
Bottom line, get China and Russia on board, and conventionally bomb their nuclear capabilities.
Tad, your right. There is no way a nuclear blast in n.k. would help anything. I like what you said about India and Pakistan but also any other nuclear armed nation (Iran) would get the idea that we are in the age of nuclear war. With all of the extreamist ideals floating around out there, many of them would not think of the real consequences of all out nuclear war.
This sucks! The fact that we even are discussing this issue. Why cant people just live there lives in peace? I have a feeling that somthing very bad is going to happen in our life time.
We do not need to "invade" North Korea. A few fingers on a few buttons will do the trick. No troops needed. It doesn't matter how "stretched" we are in the Middle East. Our Air Force and Navy can handle North Korea.
Unfortunately Bush almost destroyed our capability to reason with leaders such as this. He made a lot of enemies which is making it almost impossible to negotiate with these insanely violent leaders. Obama is very good at reasoning and showing respect. But I am afraid that North Korea is way past reason at this point. It is the price we pay for having elected a President who did so much damage to our image in the world and made strong enemies that we now have to deal with. I hope we Americans have learned our lesson and take our right to vote more seriously in the future. I think with this past election, we are on the right track once again. But we are having to deal with a lot of serious issues as a result of our past apathy.
Think folks before you leap ! The U.S. could easily zap NK's nuclear facilities, launch sites and any other military targets with high powered laser guided bombs. But think of the consequences ! It would give NK the excuse to attack SK with conventional weapons and over run the DMZ with a million or more soldiers. Both capitols are within 10 minutes striking distance. Also, how would China and Russia react ? Who's side would they take ? That would also draw in the U.S.and it's allies. Yes, back to the future folks ! The Koran war of the '50's would look like childs play by today's military standards, not to mention the causalities.
Ken J.
North Korea is up to their old tricks again, every time they want more aid to increase their own coffers instead of feeding it's citizens', they start to make trouble, the world reacts and throws more money at them; wake up, although, Obama will probably offer them a couple billion to stop making his life complicated
Marylin-Clinton tried to deal with the Norks and that worked really well right? Oh wait they are still a problem, kid gloves don't work on dictators.
They only understand one thing-force. Force is how they came to have power. Force is how they keep power and force is the only thing that will be able to stop them. Words do not matter to people like that!
Bomb them back to the stone age, no more talk. Let our cruse missiles reachout and do the talking. Let the dork with the alligator mouth try to back up his humming bird ass.
You all are missing one key problem with military action; CHINA. They are fed up with NK also but they will not stand by while we/or the South does something to them. It needs to China that sends in the troops and removes the regime from power. Hey, China is still communist but they are moving to an open market. NK would far much better in that environment than the one that Mr Crazy and then Mr Crazy Jr have created. If they attack our ships, then F__— them up but until then, let China determine what happens cuz they will get involved AGAIN.
Oh yes Marrilyn 544508 Lets blame it on Bush. For the full 8 yrs he was President N.Korea didn't threaten us or test weapons of mass distruction. But less then 6 months after our Spineless lets talk nice teaparty President is elected they start testing weapons and threatening us.
THey didn't threaten Russia or China because they KNOW what they would do. It would be BYE BYE N. korea. But us, gee if I remember rightly Obama just finshed having a talk with them and a week later they tested their bombs. Could it be because they now know for certain that Nothing will be done about it, except saying bad bad N Korea.
You are incorrect about NK's testing history- on October 9 2006 they tested their first nuke. So Bush didn't stop them either.
Many of you are making statements about war without understanding the region, the history, or the cultures involved. And for those of you who think NK understands only power, answer as to why they calm down after each infusion of economic support?
If NK was so hell-bent on war they would have started a conflict long ago...do your research.
uh poor america, NK did a smaller nuclear weapons test in 2006 when bush was in office.
We already stuck our noses into the Middle East on false stories from our government, creating the Iraqi war of bogus claims and lies. Do we really know for sure that the people telling us this story is actually telling the American people the truth, or just more lies!
Right now, I don't trust the Amnerican government on anything. They have proven to be the worse of the worse in mass killing and genocides across the globe. Creating wars like locust and leaving nothing but destruction behind!
Stormy, we have at least 25,000 troops there already and have been there for decades.
Marilyn-544508
You are an idiot of extreme measures. You are the kind of moron that tries to tie everything to Bush, like it his fault that Kim Jung Ill is a psychopath. If you cant contribute to the world then do human kind a favor and crawl under a rock and never be seen again. You disgust me in ways I can't even describe. Whether you like it or not there are bad people in the world that need to be handled in a harsh manner and your idiotic view that everyone can be talked to just shows how ignorant you are.
Remember it is better that people think you are an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
I've tried to think, how shall I reply to your comment without being disrespectful but all I can't come up with is this. MORON!!!!
The United States will never be safe as long as China and Russia "veto Members" are allies With our enemys. I just hope the president understands that Russia and China has to be watched to, there really not our friends!
This president doesn't understand that nations do NOT have friends. Nations have alliances of mutual benefit. When the benefits to one of the nations disappears the alliance disintegrates. At one point France saw no benefit to being in NATO. Boom! They pulled out. Italy was friends with one group during WW-I. Change in plans and they sided with the Germans and Japanese in the next go round. The Russians and the Chinese have alternately made kissy kissy then hate each other. In no case does this make either one of them OUR friend. Nuclearize the NKs now and advise the Russians and Chinese only after the missile launches.
Wrong! The US helped rebuild Europe through Marshall Plan after WW2 and both have been inseparable allies eversince. Have anyone ever heard or seen Europe and US threaten one another militarily? Both are strongly dependant on one anothers survival! ... And this strong bond between Europe and the US has made others like Russia and China dependant on the West (Europe and US), despite all the political differences. Therefore North Korea's stupid game is a lonely man's game. A desperate gesture for attention. So what do you do to a recalcitrant child who is threatning you with a sharp knife? ...You lock him up, isolate him, while you whip him real good until he learns a lesson of his life, then take the knife off his hands!
It's important that we do something. If we cave to or ignore North Korea, Iran (potentially a much bigger problem since Iran is much more hostile toward America) will see that we have no backbone. We need to do something, not only to take care of the Korea problem, but also to ensure Iran that pursuit of nuclear arms will not be tolerated.
The N. Koreans are trying to be bullies. The Japanese tried the same strategy. We gave them a taste of nuclear power and they have been very docile ever since. The difference here is that the N. Koreans are on the verge of having a functioning nuclear device and they have already demonstrated a missle delivery system. We had better take them out now. If O'Bama tries this "engagement" crap for too long a bunch of us will end up dead thanks to his lack of a spine. Clean'em out and give the place to the S. Koreans.
Thank God you are not the President...while you have been living in your dream world, the Japanese have economically outmuscled us and the North Koreans are doing exactly what they need to be doing which is trying to better their position as a nation. You respond to this with economic sanctions and not nuclear weapons......bombing first and asking questions later is exactly what got us into this economic mess that we are currently in....the only reason we didn't bomb North Korea under Bush the idiot is because there's no oil there
If it was 1945 again, by all means, nuke 'em. But now we have Russia, China, and a handful of other countries with nuclear arms. If North Korea was alone, not a biggie. but if we were to initiate, especially with nukes, what keeps Russia from siding with Korea (sure don't see Putin taking our side) and using their nukes? This is an extremely delicate situation ... harder than Iraq was because we have better evidence of nukes this time, and in a location capable of targeting North America ...good luck with this one Obama.
not to mention that N.K.'s missle delivery system falls about 1000 miles short of the U.s> west coast. They have some work to do before they can reach us Rod.
I would be more worried about our allies. South Korea is well within range and if N.K. nukes them then Obama will have no choice but to take military action. Who knows what that will bring...
Something that all of you seem to forget is that we have troops stationed along the 32nd parallel, the border between the north and the south. It the north got a hair up its arse, they could nuke that and then march right into the south. It would kill many of our troops stationed there not to mention the toll it would take on the south.
N.K is a very dangerous situation that many on here seem will be solved with nukes. Grow up children, nukes do not solve any problems, they create them. That is what this whole mess is about... isn't it? Then if China and Russia get involved... what then? We may have an advantage in the technology factor, but if we go against millions of troops between N.K, China, and Russia, not even our allies will be able to help us stop the bleeding. It will be the end of our way of life and probably the end of the world. NUKES SOLVE NOTHING!
It is time to seriously consider nuking NK. Give them what they want, about 10 times. Yes, it will be horrible but that is what NK wants. Give it to them.
Do any of you know the definition of: "Escalation". Didn't think so.
I think they need to be told they have 5 days to comply. On the fifth day we destroy all known nuclear facilities and weapons depots.
I absolutely agree....we can shock and awe them without comitting ground troops...when the weopons and army/air force/navy are destroyed, let S.K. go clean up and take over
I still say we need to avoid actual war at all costs. War is NOT the answer. I say we use the CIA and their operatives like they should be used and quietly take out the NK top rung. When you cut the head off the snake, the snake stops moving!!! We should have done that with Saddam. Now look at us.
The next time they get all their military officers in the same building, just level that building!
Mama, I like your idea but N.K. is not Iraq. These guys are ready with a million man army. They are no 2 bit terrorists. They are tactical and well trained. Fast, hard, and satilite guided would be the only way to take them out.
No need to worry about a ground action/land war, all it takes is one airstrike against the nuclear reactors. Israel took out an Iraqi reactor in the 80s by an airstrike. As far as why should we worry about NK having nukes because we have nukes, as one writer put it, let me retort. NK is a psychotic, police state that would make Stalin squirm. It starves its own people while the leadership enjoys everything the west has to offer in the way of consumer goods. It uses the distribution of food & starvation as a method of controlling its people. It is a threat to its neighbors and beyond once it develops a long range delivery system. Sorry to say but a few dozen or even a few hundred NK lives in a operation to take out the reactor would be a small price to pay considering the casualties the NK would inflict in a nuclear attack against other nations.
Very good "Common Sense" but unfortunately common sense is not very common ! Also the problem with this approach is that the people making the decisions are mostly devoid of "Common Sense".
I am fully confident the United Nations will handle this situation as effectively as they have every other serious situation in the past. Time and time again they have been very effective in handling these types of situations. I just wish I could remember when it was they were effective. North Korea must be okay becasue we no longer consider them an axious of evil.
You're kidding...right? The only thing the UN has done "effectively" is act haughty and waste governmental time and money. There are too many squabbles between the scores of countries that make up the UN for it to be effective at anything else.
The fools have already so ratcheted the rhetoric that the US must do something vocally credible to counteract . Statements should be put out highlighting the " blatant threats, warmongering, attempts to bully nations around them and even the US with promises of imminent war. Every statement the PRNK puts out officially includes the threat of war, war, and more war. And ACTIONS taken give credibility to these violent-laden threats. If the West had done even ONE of these latter extremely provocative actions the PRNK sayb they respond with war. They threaten WAR even when other nations seek to take DEFENSIVE actions, then like expect other nations to be silent when they prepare to take OFFENSIVE actions. As from TODAY we will search any Korean ship we have reason to expect may be carrying nuclear materials" Have ONE more attempt to get them to back down , then if no action on the UN front or by them-this is it folks. They will HAVE to respond in some way. Russia/China will see it fit to take the opportunity given by US military overstretch, when the action starts. WW3 folks. But I don't see how peace is possible at this point in time. If the US backs down Every little terrorist , every opposing bnation will encircle and attack. This result has come about from an accumulation of foreign policy naivities and disasters. There is even the "free speech, protected" right of many who oppose the C-in-Chief , for the time being in charge, to wish for "failure" of US affairs under him. Well millions of us who may shortly die, hope not.
Search them, having naval/air force /sub/ antimissiles weapons in place.
The US should talk to Russia and China and let them deal with North Korea. The US doesn't need to be involved unless an actual attack takes place. North Korea is a sovereign nation and has the right to build what it chooses. The US and other nations have the right to defend themselves if attacked. I don't think the North Koreans want their nation destroyed. Russia and China are the best nations available to explain the facts to North Korea.
The Russians and Chinese aren't going to do anything about NK. They are in bed together so to speak. Nothing NK does is of surprise to them. In fact they are probably cheering them on behind the scenes. The real problem here is that NK will never launch a missile at us. They will just pack one of those nukes in a Container ship crate and detonate it in one of our port harbors. That way they can say it wasn't them. Thats why doing nothing is the same as killing our own population. (hope you dont have family in LA. If we dont do something eventually they will be targeted and you can kiss them goodbye)
Drop a couple of A-boms, then cleanse it w/ Napalm and then call it South Korea, who the hell needs N. Korea?
Right on Zach... although I would just call the whole country "Korea", no more asking "which one?"
Do any of the absolute testosteronized morons on this site THINK that you don't just "drop" a nuclear weapon and clean things out like you are cleaning out a closet. A nuclear blast has CONSEQUENCES and I'm not talking political. I am talking about radiation and nuclear fallout depending on the wind does not just sit there. It can blow onto South Korea easily, it could blow toward China, it could blow toward Japan. Those countries are at the MOST risk. Not to mention why human beings of any intellect and understanding are SO afraid of nuclear weaponry. Not only does it decimate a population in an instant burning the entire country and the people it it but it has cancer ramifiations for DECADES. Decades to you imbeciles GET THAT? Decades. People are STILL dying from genetic mutative damage probably caused by our nuclear blast in Hirosima and Nagaski. The ONLY good Hioshima did was to show the world either you want to live or you want to die. It's that simple.
This is NOT conventional war where a relatively small amount get killed and it does't matter much in the long run. Nuclar war is DEVASTATING and proliferating without anyone truly remembering WHAT the hell it really is.
How about a TV program on NBC showing the REAL effects of the small nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and showing just exactly what our HUGE amount could do. Get your heads on straight you idiots and THINK for once in your life!!
I agree. Emphatically! No bombs. They destroy too much for too long. There are grandchildren out there still suffering from the effects of Hiroshima and they weren't even around when it was dropped. We genetically mutated those poor people over there. Keep in mind that innocent children and others will die just because a hothead is in charge. That's what got us in the mess we're in in Iraq. Two hotheads were in charge. Now we're still cleaning up the mess and we will for years to come.
You know, if we had to, we could distroy them without the use of Nuclear Weapons. A nuke is over kill. Just organize many smaller missles to hit pin point targets. Thats what technology is for. The U.S. military has created some pretty interesting things since 1945. There is no need for Nuclear War.
NK needs to be shown the power of the atom, and Iran will probably have a change of heart after witnessing how bad they get it. We need to use the nuke as a deterrent.
Bagelmaven, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. No nuclear blast in North Korea would have ANY radiation effect on South Korea, China, or Japan. It wouldn't even have an effect on the rest of North Korea. In 64 years of nuclear weapons explosions, the radiation has never gone beyond the localized area of the explosion.
The only time such radiation has spread from one country to the other was in the aftermath of the Chernobyl accident in Ukraine. That was a nuclear MELTDOWN, which is far different than an explosion. Before you tell people to think for once in their lives, please try to have some basic level of understanding of the subject on which you're making a pompous ass out of yourself.
We do have the neutron bomb which is a lot less destructive of real estate, but it sure wreaks hell on the population and we can toss in the EMF to disable most of their electrical stuff. Kim's iPod will be toast!!
The US (with or without support) should take out the North Korean facility with an immediate, decisive devastating attack. No talk, no warning. The US and Israel should take out the Iranian facility as well. We would not have had ANY of these problems if Truman had listened to McArthur (or the American people had listened to Barry Goldwater in 1964) and taken Red China out then. The warning was fight them now (while they were weak) or fight them later. Well, later is now. But Obama..... he doesn't have the gonads to take this course of action. A "man" so cowardly as Obama can NEVER make a brave decision. Just ask Jimmy Carter.
This "brave" decision, if it were made, would bring about the destruction of South Korea and would kill thousands of American and Korean troops.
Wars in both Korea and Iran would require a large-scale draft of military age youth. I don't think this would be popular with very many voters and parents at this time, since I don't believe the North Koreans and/or the Iranians are any match for our nuclear arsenal.
That would be considered an act of war if we were to just arbitarily go in there and blow up their nuclear facilities. Starting up a possible WWIII is not the proper approach here. As long as there are tougher sanctions and other alternatives to pursue that will make them understand they need to dismantle these facilities, then that's what we will do. Granted Obama hasn't shown himself to be aggressive militarily yet, but understand he does have military advisors and he will rely on what they tell him. I say if sanctions fail then we use a blockade so nothing goes in or out of NK, just like we did to Cuba during the Kennedy years. They finally backed off and dismantled everything and perhaps NK will too. There are always alternative actions than just going in and blowing everything away.
My lovely beatnic friends of peace- KNOW WAR! NO PEACE. Get it? Why does 28% of the people reading this say we should do nothing? Our Peace loving undocumented import with no spine president is trying to take our guns and ammunition away and you think he is going to do something about NK? Who are you kidding! Develop new more advanced weaponry? What are you guys thinking? NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN! O'Brother isn't going to do crap and will just rattle the sword and nothin....! Just Like the current presidenial solutions list- Rattle it a little and then .... Nothin'.... Crap IN- Crap out.... Thats the new way and until all you guys see thru the BS and vote the fools out of Congress, the senate and the Presidency and the SCOTUS- NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN! NOTHING! I am not talking democrits or repubic's I'm talking all of them- They suck and actually many of them have caused all this Mess- read your damn history! Who in the world would trust this administration to do anything right for the right reason?
Same ole crap- Different pile! Where the heck were all you tough people when it was time to vote???? Oh thats right you wanted change- Now thats all you have left- change! You want action try voting for the right people instead of a party line- Here is the recommended course I say. Go home and kiss your American way goodbye- if you have a home when this is all over... Quit worrying about NK, Pelosie says they didnt do it and when it does happen she will say she wasn't at the meeting, even when she scribbled on the sign in sheet- some more of these fine politics.... You people are amazing- I suppose you guys will figger that once our war mongering is over we will have solved the problem in NK? IF NK does something they will either get away with it or get burned by it!
Obama has only been in office 100 days. I think alot of what you said is uncalled for and not correct. Give the man a chance to do the right thing. He has not history of declaring war. That was Bush's job. And that idiot did it well. Now we're cleaning up after him. Too many people have died - their side and ours - especially ours. I don't think that if your child had died, you'd be saying the crap you just said. NK has just escalated in the last few months. Let our president do his job.
SeattleJames: you're truly an idiot, I think you should take your own advice and study your history, you appear to be just a tad bit of a revisionist.
I guess no one has learned lessons from the past. And everyone is saying Obama is doing nothing - my question is how do you know? It was the same way with the pirate situation - everyone said Obama did not have a spine - next day two dead pirates.
Kim is definitely crazy - he is like a small child that continually cries or shows bad behavior to get attention. China and Russia have already denounced the test. They have to get on board because I think Kim would listen to them over the West.
We should let the United Nations handle this. They have an excellent history of doing so, I just wish I could remember when.
Crazy people.....
i'm sitting in my backyward waiting for my barbacue ribs to be done and watching my child play,and somewhere else in the world is some crazy asian thinking of making nukes,for power or to use by force or to become terrorists,whatever. why can't you crazy people who run your so called countrys simply live and use logic and learn to trust each other,instead of needing bombs to act tuffer then the other. it's like using steroids. be men and fight like men,you know,the way out fourfathers did??? and fought like brave souls.
we don't need nukes. we will end up blowing each other up and for what?
egos or pride or simply because you chose to seperate everyone in states and countrys and citys and put up walls and say we are different. we are all the same.
scared rabbits afraid to trust and live in peace and without the thought of war or making weapons of mass destruction. why make em if your not gonna use em?
it's crazy. we have them,they want them. everyone wants them so they too can be tuff.
we wanna be a super power! oh i say go shove a living snake up your arse!
mellow out and shut up. go enjoy your family and good food and grow old and die.
enough is enough already. fight like men or push your buttons. do what your sick insane minds want to do. why else would u have them?
if they bomb us,we bomb them and so on and so on. the earth ends and the human race
(which includes all races) the human race is over. and for what.
forget war and nukes and go have a good time you anal idiots who run your countries,this includes my country,the U.S. of course we wouldn't use the nukes,unless someone else used one on us. of course we are the only ones who have used one on another country and we learned how useless it was. it may have ended your so called war,but all you really did was kill innocent people and women and children.
it's a coward act as was 911 or pearl harbor.
war
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we are better then you
your all twits!
perhaps we need no leaders if they are the ones who cause all these problems and think up these things and allow bombs to be made that will only kill innocent people.
the people of the USA are not the aholes. it's always the idiots who run it.
they mess around,butt in... we can trust ourselfs to have nukes but nobody else can have them if we say so because we think we run earth or something?
get real.
dismantle the nukes and fight like men do.
NK should only stop if we take ours down.
same goes for russia and iran and whoever else needs these weapons to act tuff.
We don't need them. waste of money and too deadly for the earth who is the most innocent! we don't own this planet. never did. we don't own the moon or space or the stars.
we are one planet. walls were made by the idiots.
don't matter how ya talk or what color you are. we are one world.
one human race.... UNITED? nope! why? cuzz we are different in small ways and dont trust each other and hate and jealousy takes over these small minds.
work together? nope!
why? cuzz some think more with logic then others.
in this case it it true that some think in the dark ages.
look at iraq and afghan... talk about barbarians and living in caveman days still.
so jealous of others they become terrorists and bomb for no good reasons.
just hate and we are jealous. god tells us to kill you...lol
so some people like these idiots need to be retro graded and educated and brought into the reality of the light! peace and love and harmony. law and order,respect for all,including your women. stop living like a savage and think! think! think!
how hard is it to simply live without thinking about war or taking over another country or city or state... there is plenty of room for all on this planet.
work together. talk. get together... equal laws and rights.
if u got them? they should be able to have them too.
unless it's someone really crazy like osama bin laden.......
iraq and afghan... the crazy ones.......
sure NK seems crazy but i'm sure they are sticking it to everyones face saying,sorry. we will do what we want like you did. we have that right too. who are we to stop them or anyone when we have them? makes no sence. we are not the planets police.
dismantle our nukes and so does russia and iran and whoever else?
then NK should not be able to make them... and im sure they wouldn't if the playing field was fair and even.
enough said,grow up planet earth!
forget war and hate and making weak bombs.
fight with your fists or your mild guns.
fight like men,if you can. your 4fathers did.....
The U.S. will continue to tippy-toe around NK because we don't have enough boots on the ground to deal with them right now and they know this.
As for the "take out NK crowd," I'd say this: This would not be any easy continuation of the Korean War. I think the north has something like 4000 artillery pieces pointed at Seoul. If the north opened up on south Korea, there would be huge numbers of dead and wounded. It is a war that the U.S. does not want to restart.
Destroy the "Dear Leader" and N.K.s ability to wage war.
Ah hell, just invade and free the people of N. Korea, then put Kim Il Jerk on trial for Crimes Against Humanity.
from childhood the people in north korea are taught that americans are the enemy and that we want to invade and take over their country. do you really think they're going to understand what would be happening if we went there to "free the people." and isn't that what we were supposedly doing in iraq?
Michelle Maria, if you had to live under the current North Korean government, you'd be grateful (at least temporarily) if al-Qaeda came to your rescue. Government propaganda rings hollow when they're the ones oppressing you and the supposed enemy shows kindness once they've taken over. This is exactly what happened in Japan.
I think wars are costly expensive things to do. We should wipe them and iran off the face of the map overnight and be done with it. When we are finished we should make a statement to the effect of Who the #$% is next. Why play with these people. It cost too much. I am sure we can spare a few of our nukes on them
The Russians, who remain an ally of North Korea, and who also possess a nuclear arsenal capable of wiping the U.S. off the map, may have something to say about this course of action.
Sounds like a Fox News watchin', George Bush lovin', bomb everyone till there's no one left kind moron. What part of "thou shall not kill" has you so confused?
We, who proclaim to the world to be against the proliferation of nuclear weapons, should drop multiple nuclear weapons on North Korea and Iran? Why, because they want to have this same weapon? Hmmm, now there's an idea that'll go over like a fart in church to the rest of the world!
OH boy here they come--- PEace man! Everything is gonna be alright.... Oh By the way FOX NEWS- #1 Most watched news in the country- much Better than the Communist news network- CNN or the nationalists brocast corporation-NBC!
Get a grip- I bet you think FDR was one of the Good guys!
READ YOUR DAMN HISTORY BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND THEM YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT WE MIGHT LISTEN TO!
I Would much prefer going to war with a Loose wild Texan and Dick Cheany at the Helm than being afraid of getting shot from behind by the current idiots that think we are stupid cannon fodder that work for them....real bright bunch of dim and dark light bulbs up there in washington DC.
Hey Seattle
One question. Are you going to fight and possibly die. All you "warriors" out there have probably never been to war, nor have any intention being in one. What's that saying "Old men make the wars and young men fight them". You all talk a good fight, but you're sitting on your brains.
Wow, you are really out there, did you go to the Cheney school of intellect???
Realistically, war is tricky. MacArthur had the North Koreans beaten in 1951... until the Chinese crossed the border and nearly shoved us all the way back to the beach. If MacArthur had his way, the big one, WWIII would have happened right then and there between Free and Communist. The Korean War was no easy fight, and the territory has every bit as harsh a climate as Afghanistan. Choose your war carefully, this one would be very messy. Quick, aerial strikes on specific targets, weapons plants, etc. may be the least dangerous way for us to go. The big risk then, is that North attacks the South, and we would have our troops in the line of fire. They would have their hands full, and this bully dictator of theirs would likely try to use some kind of nuclear weapon on the South and our troops. Very risky, not Bush's fault, this diplomacy method in NK has been in place since Eisenhower stopped the fighting. This threat was always there.
Folks, the U.S. needs to face the reality that eventually every nation on the planet will possess nuclear weapons and WMD's. It is only a matter of time.
We need to build bigger and "better" weapons of mass destruction. Full scale doomsday weapons and small scale tactical stuff that can be used in a much, much smaller area.
And then pray we never, ever have to use them.
The future I think is microscopic. Never hear much about that, it's too scary.
Just An Idea: Form a resolution with all the other heavies in the world. Give them plenty of time to back down and save face at the same time. 30 days might work. Ultimatum, enforced by all would be: with plenty of warning that all nuclear facilities will be destroyed at a given time. No nukes needed. If all nuclear nations enforce this, they will back down. If not then we have everybody that is anybody behind us.
They don't have the gonads. What are we supposed to do wait around to be attacked you must of voted for moron.
If it is the Russians you refer to as not having the "gonads," I'd suggest you look at history. I believe there were at least three instances in the past 20 - 30 years that the Russians almost launched against us because they "thought" briefly that we were launching a first strike. Given the size and scope of the Russian nuclear arsenal, the U.S. will always tippy-toe around the Russians. You'll notice that your hero "W" didn't charge into Georgia when the Russians attacked. Looks like he didn't have the gonads either.
That's because Putnin and Bush were "huntin" buddies, so he had permission. :)
The reality of having nuclear weapons is the fact that nobody in their right mind will ever use them against anyone else knowing that it will bring total annihilation to themselves as well if they do. That in itself could be the key to keeping the peace with NK. Let them go ahead and keep their nuclear plant but make them fully understand if they ever use it against another country they will suffer the consequences in the same manner. Japan learned once. Talking tough is one thing actually doing it is another. And if they do..they're done. Case closed.
And what happens when they nuke us first? How are we going to annihilate them then? Obama and Hillary will apologize for the sanctions, and give them more money and lay low.
We are the laughing stock of the world now, thanks to Obama's "changes" to becoming a broke and weak azz country.
SueZQ,
They have maybe a hand full of atomic weapons, and perhaps the capability to make a few nuclear weapons. They have a very unreliable medium range missile, capable of hitting Japan, and maybe Hawaii, if the winds blowing in the right direction, but not anywhere near the west coast of mainland U.S.
We, on the other hand, have many thousands of long range, ICBMs, that's Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles, each of which carries multiple high power nuclear warheads. These missiles are stationed in silos scattered all over the midwest, as well as on submarines cruising around under the oceans right now, this very second.
If Kim Jong Il was insane enough (and who knows, he might be!!) to think he could accomplish something by attacking us, we would then (and only then) have the right to wipe his crazy little butt off the face of the planet. The very worst he could do is blow up our favorite vacation spot. Yeah, OK, in a worst case situation a million Hawaiians and a bunch of foreign tourists get toasted, but then, OH BABY! The wrath of Khan would rain down upon that pipsqueak.
If we needed to use it, we do in fact have the ability to turn most of the North Korean peninsula into a parking lot. But what we don't have is the right to do that pre-emptively. North Korea, like Iran, is a sovreign nation which has the right to conduct scientific experiments, just like we did, and to develop technology, including nucler technology.
Now then, IF they go and use that technology to attack our friends in their neighborhood, THEN we go and wipe 'em out. But not before. If we attack first, like we did in Iraq, then we're the bully and nobody likes a bully.
And to all you gung-ho rah-rahs on this thread chanting that we should shoot first and ask questions later, this ain't the OK Corral. Grow up. Let the processes of diplomacy play out. Let the local powers deal with the issue. IF and WHEN it becomes necessary for us to act militarily, we'll be ready. And Obama will be ready, if he needs to be. But he's not so stupid (unlike our former president) as to go and unilaterally get us stuck in a situation that would be more trouble to get out of, and much more risk to our troops, than it would be to watch over, very vigilently.
China could control North Korea if they wanted. They love it when North Korea irritates us. We like to irritate China with Taiwan. So I guess it's about even.
If the North were to invade the South and kill US troops, even Obama would have to go to war if he wanted a second term and now you are talking 3 fronts with one being a major hot war; probably rationing of oil and gasoline, etc. perhaps defaulting on our Chinese debt. This would not be good for American consumers and certainly not good for China.
A war between America, South Korea and North Korean would result in many refugees. Again, this is the last thing China wants. During the last Korean war, ideology played a major role in China's support. This time around, economics is much more important to China.
China is the key to controlling North Korea and hopefully they will in private, even as they give tacit support in public. We would do the same thing if Mexico were tweaking the Russian noses. Supportive in public, but doing things behind the scenes to make it too costly to pick a real fight.
Well I guess we might as well get ready for one hell of a winter. I'D prefer it
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10.. 9.. 8.. 7.. 6.. 5.. That's the only thing I hear the N. Koreans saying! Talking will only achieve the same result as doing nothing.