Miss USA pageant co-owner Donald Trump announced that despite the controversy over her stand on gay marriage and racy pre-pageant photos that have surfaced, Carrie Prejean will retain the title of Miss California USA.
Trump to Miss California: 'You're not fired'
Seeded on Tue May 12, 2009 11:41 AM EDT (msnbc.com)
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Intelligent decision. Intelligent woman and very insightful into the fact that Liberals will try anything to silence free speech. However, I personally support President Obama's position on this as well. Marriage is between a man and a woman. This is a direct quote from him in his campaign. This is the only thing I agree with him on but, I do agree.
Yes, and he didn't lose his crown, either! And how much you want to bet that that hypocrite Hilton voted for Obama even though he said he was against gay marriage???? Just shows that since he lusts after Obama he still voted for him but since he hates women he didn't for for Ms. California.
Hmmm why bring politic into this? The gay community got offended and that has nothing to do with liberals nor pres. Obama.
Jeff, these fanatics screamed and yelled from every rooftop about some beauty contestant's comment about believing marriage is between a man and a woman, but not one of them has publicly challenged the president. Don't you find that odd? The beauty contestant cannot pressure lawmakers into changing law, but the president can.
The media has run this story to death, but has not once mentioned that her view is the exact same as the president. The media chose to ignore the fact that this young woman and the president have the exact same opinion.
It's liberal and it's the media at it's best, or worst.
Good move Donald! This fine young woman would have won if it was not for the gay agenda of the Hilton.
To me it was more of a personal vendetta triggered by the not so bright Mr. Perez and his entourage. I don't know why some of you are bringing politics into this. I'm a liberal and I totally supported Miss California as I believe Mr. Perez and the gay community should have respected her point of view.
Hhhmmmm not one question about the beauty pagent *paid* for her booby job. How might she have fared if all the other contestants had gotten a freebie boobie job??
This whole thing is an indescrible mess....
This Bi&ch is so annoying... I wish that she would go away... yes free speech is cool and necessary, yes she is cute but come one... Is this the best that republicans can come up with, I can just imagine in 2012 the republican presidential ticket is gonna be Sarah Palin and Carrie Prejean... then the secretary of state is gonna be Joe the plumber and the press secretary is gonna me Rush Limbaugh... now she is gonna get some reality show and bs like that... good for her buy annoying...
Where do you get 'politics' out of this controversy? You don't have to be a right-wingnut to believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. Ethics and morals are important in our society. Grow up and find yourself in the 21st century.
Civil Union is OK because it gives gays the rights of married heterosexuals in estates, welfare, medical coverage, social security and tax benefits...without the sanctification of marriage. Love does not have to equal a Biblical contract, but its expression can be accepatable in other ways.
tomas, "the best the republicans can come up with"? the only reason this is in the news is PCers had a hissy and targeted her. talk about hate...
Donald Trump did the right thing. If she would have got fired, the Christian right would have made a martyr out of her and made such a huge stink. Don't give her anymore air time and sweep it under the rug where she belongs.
I'm just glad she didn't have to give her twins back!
What free speech? It had nothing to do with what came out of her mouth, it was about what came off her back.
Well ARepublican if they did order the twins back you could always buy a couple yourself. No one said they had to be placed only in the body so I am sure a set of twins-on-a-pedestal would be legal.
Trump for President. Hilton for jerk.
Somebody call up Vanessa Williams and apologize to her and give her back her crown!
Fisherman - see the problem is in YOUR mind and not in OTHERS minds. What if? (for sake of argument) you were gay? Would you like to be told you can only have civil union, even though two gay people might be deeply religeous. Straight people do not have a monopoly on religeon, I have news for you, there are LOTS of gay people that are deeply religeous. They go to church, they DO have churches that tolerate gay people you know. It never dictates in the bible that marriage has to be between a man and a woman and besides the bible had been re-written and translated so many times human bias HAS interjected itself.
The whole issue is about people wanting the same rights. If the world wasnt progressive WOMEN would not be allowed to vote. Black would not be allowed to vote, etc...
And yes, marriage can be defined as between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS so lets not bring in a child molester marrying a child or a person marrying their animal. There IS a fine line.
By the way, bringing the bible into things also opens ALOT of cans of worms like priests who are pediphiles and other religeous people who get caught child-molesting, messing around with their FLOCK, or other indecencies that the religeous get caught doing.
In this day and age GAYS should be allowed to get married! Period. It does no damage to anyone but riling people with narrow minds. Gay people even have less divorce rates than straights (which is running like 50% right now for straights). YOUR lifestyle is not threatened nor is your manlihood.
If I were Gay I might shoot myself in the head, and save a lot of problems!!
Devil's Advocate: The bible had HUMAN bias when it was initial written by MEN thousands of years ago when they tortured and murdered anyone who didn't conform to what the government said.
Jeff NC - WHO CARES if Miss CA offended gay people? I can not even believe you said that after the self-proclaimed Queen of all Media, Perez Hilton, has been on a warpath and called her the c word on TV.
I hope I offend the self-proclaimed queen EVERY DAY.
Devils Advocate - I have plenty of gay friends who could care less about being married or even having the right to be married.
I will never agree to that and will always vote against it for one reason.
I am deathly afraid that gay marriage will allow North American Man Boy Love Association Members to adopt a young boy.
Before you bleeding heart liberals jump down my back, just remember what I state is a fact. If we agree to gay marriage, then it would be disciminatory to refuse to allow these NAMBLA members to adopt.
Karen chill out. She offended a couple of gay folks who didn't agree with her opinion, which I respect by the way, and that is the reason why we've got this whole argument started. No need to bring politics into this. I'm a liberal and I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman, although I don't believe much in marriage either. It's just a question of ethics and morals.
Let's not cherry pick Obama's position. He also made it clear that he strongly opposed state or federal legislation that would deny gays the same rights as heterosexual couples. In other words, he has the sense to realize that his personal moral views should not be imposed onto the rest of society.
He should have bumped her up to being Miss America and fired that waste of human life Perez thing. Perez needs to go back to the closet and have the door sealed shut.
Trump is on the fence re: Hilton. Today at the news conference he said he would welcome back Hilton.
Just remember, ratings is the driving force behind TV and NBC just signed to another term. There was a period of time when the pageant was not on a big 3 network.
If Hilton can generate ratings with his hate-filled speeches, then Trump is inclined to hire him.
this was merely a stunt by the Donald to attract attention to one of events. How better a way to spotlight an event than bring in controversy? Donald was just making sure his event was seen and heard by all. Can't wait to see what he comes up with next year.
Good!
I guess Miss California gives way better Head than Perez Hilton, lol !
perez bites!
way to go, the donald! she was only targeted bc of the gay thing anyway. so much for freedom of speech.
probably just not as much
Big surprise. And honestly, really honestly, WHO CARES. Such an un-important story.
In America being persecuted for speaking your beliefs is a big story.
But when hate is your belief then you run into problems. For example, what if they asked Miss Georgia what her beliefs were on black people and her response was, "Well i was raised a white supremacist, so no offense or anything but it just not how I was raised and I don't think they have equal rights." She would be kicked out right then. How is discrimination against gays different than discrimination against any other group, even if you justify it with "your religion?"
of course trump would agree, he's used to lying and breaking contracts, they dont mean anything anyway when you have influential people like him backing you.
Trump did the right thing...........and he saved his ratings.........
Yep! I agree. Who in the world is Perez anyways, a famos blogger. What is his CQ (celebrity quotient) - As far as I am concerned YAY!! for free speech. That is why we are the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Way to go, Donald! For once you did the right thing.
And an "in your face" to that ugly Hilton creep who should not have been a judge anyway since he obviously hates women. Why would ANYBODY use a gay man for a judge in a WOMEN'S pageant. If he were going to be a judge (and I see nothing that remotely recommends him) shouldn't he be judging a men's pageant?
Ridiculous for a man who doesn't even like women to be a judge!
Just because a gay man doesn't find women sexually attractive doesn't mean that they hate them. Straight women don't find women sexually attractive either, yet we wouldn't even question as to why they should be judges.
Think before you type.
What an @!$%# you are! Who do you think dressed her?? A gay man. Who did her makeup and hair??? A gay man. Who taught her to walk and pose? A gay man. Who makes up half of the audience for this stupid show?? Gay men. Wake up! Just because you are not sexually attracted to women, does not mean you don't like them. This is a BIG issue... It's not going away. We "ALL" have the right to equality. Ms. California doesn't believe in equal rights and she wasn't honest with the company about the rules. So when you are a Ms. Whatever... you are choosing to stand for everyone in the state that you represent. She does "NOT" represent all of the state of California.
There isn't a person on the face of the planet who could represent "all" of California. Too may wack jobs out there!
It seems to me that the most biased people on this whole issue are the gays. This is about freedom of speech. The gay community still has a misplaced hair about California voters voting no against gay marriage. Want to get married? There are several other states where gays can get married. I don't really give a rat's ass whether two people of the same sex get married. But I DO have a problem with this annihilation of free speech. Hilton's blatant disregard for the 1st amendment because of his own agenda was a complete travesty. I'm just glad Donald Trump pulled his head out of his own rectum and let her keep the crown that she so graciously earned.
The gay community says the comments offended them, if she would have made the opposite comment to appease the gay guy, no one would have said anything, well I am, the gay community should just shut up and live thier lives like the rest of us and deal with real problems, hunger, recesion, deaths all around the world. No gays are worried about if every one knows who they sleap with. I sleep with my wife but I don't need to advertise it to the world.
And just because some people believe in traditional marriage doesn't mean they hate gays.
Tey refered to her remarks as controversial, how is having the same view as the majority of americans (and president obama) controversial?
Because it is singling one group of people out and denying them of a right that everybody else has. What about when women couldn't vote or when blacks had to sit on the black side of the bus? Discrimination almost always leads to some sort of oppression.
It's not just gays who are prevented from marrying whomever they want.
Your comparing gay partnerships wanting to be recognized by the goverment to equal rights for blacks and women, this is why no one will take you serious enough to help you, lets see blacks were beatin like animals and treated like, well slaves and women like they don't have brains, then there's the gays that were, wait they were never treated like either of those things, just different because they acted different in public, flammers, Women don't act like that in public so why do gays think it's OK.
If gay means to love another person of the same sex, just like a man loves a woman then why do flammers act the way they do.
Don't asked to be judged or even recognized if you skeletons should have stayed in the closet to retain some respect.
Wow, what an impressive intelligent speech she gave, she did not hold back one bit on her response to the people attacking her. She has more integrity in her little finger than most of her attackers could ever hope have in there entire miserable lives.
We need more young people like this in our country, willing to stand up to the PC police and the left wing fascist media machine.
There is a difference between integrity and opinion. You can have an opinion andhave enough integrity to keep it to yourself at times. The Miss USA Pageant was not such a time. While I do not agree with Miss Prejean about marriage, she was asked her opinion in a public forum. She was right to be honest. I suspect (my opinion) that the question was specifically asked to stir controversy. Whether true or not, Perez Hilton certainly lacked any integrity. Any response - positive or negative - by him to the answer was simply wrong ...and that has nothing to do with left-wing or right-wing fascists and their media machines.
She's got no integrity. She's a "devout Christian" who is a model and a pagent contestant. She threw out her morals and integrity the moment she decided what she does for a living is a good lifestyle for such a pious Christian.
btw , why is a gay man judging a womans beauty pageant?
Good.....Sometimes if you speak your mind, you will only hurt yourself. In this case, the right decision has been made. Miss California would have never been an issue if it wasn't for the gay community hearing things they didn't like coming out of her mouth. She stood up for her beliefs & for that I hope some day she will be Miss USA!
Honestly, with all of the problems facing this country, with millions of people out of work and 50 million Americans with no health insurance-HOW IS THIS NEWS??? I can't think of anything that I care less about. And given the fact that Miss America has lost all tv revenue and in fact has to be televised on some 3rd tier cable network, obviously most people feel as I do.
Free Speach - and not being persecuted for - Big Issue in 1776 - Big Issue today.
You should care about that.
Good answer!
It's news because it's so painfully obvious this is about first amendment rights. Which, thank God, do go both liberal and conservative; despite how much the liberal media and so-called celebs-who-won't-go-away are trying to force you to believe.
Goes to show you... if you decide to exercise your freedom of speech or religion, watch out! Besides she was just supporting President Barack Obama's view on marriage. Maybe she should have said, "I support President Obama's view on marriage - that it is between a man and a woman." The place would have exploded with thunderous applause! :)
GOOD call , Donald! Although I could do without seeing Perez in the future, and, as for Carrie ? You rock, girl - NEVER sacrifice your beliefs.
It's nice to see that Mr. Trump has the balls to stand up to the loud mouthed left and renew our repidly failing freedom of speech. Miss California is speaking for the majority of the people here and we appreciate her sticking to her guns.
Common sense prevailed......finally!
Now, if they get rid of that sick queen, Perez Hilton.........more common sense will prevail!
You go, GIRL!
Congratulations!!!
I hope that vile woman does NOT have the same views as most Americans -- as you saying, loonaticjay, that most americans are for withholding rights from a group of US citizens? talk about constitutional violations. And for al you on this site who think her expression is about freedom of speech you are joking right? it obviously is not about freedom of speech it is about honor and this woman has none.
I am sick to death of people spreading vile hate and calling it "God" -- God is not hate. God cries at your vile judgmental sins against God's gay children.
All of you will be hearing about your sins against gays when God gets God's hands on you at the end of your lives.
Sodom and Gomorrah I think that has been covered :) The Qu'ran holds even a more harsh view on this topic.
Are you serious? Do you really think God likes the fact that you are gay? God has given every human the freedom of choice, one of which is sin. Being homosexual is sin. God doesn't like it when people sin, but he still forgives.
No, it is not hate saying I don't agree with homosexual marriage. It is me speaking my belief that marriage is a holy thing, and should not be entered into on the basis of sin.
If anyone should be fearing God and changing their ways it would be the gays. By the way most Americans do support Miss California's view - thankfully!
I think most feel like her. We are just nice and tell you people we agree with you to be nice.
But, marriage is between a man and a woman. It is basic biology, oh that is right you have a twisted version of the birds and the bees.
Judging others is sin too, and NO ONE is without sin!! She IS entitled to her own opinion but what about the semi-nude photos??? How Christian is THAT??? THAT should be what gets her dethroned, not her opinion. She's not a very good role model posing semi-nude, not for women or for the Christian community!! Booooo!
biology has nothing to do with marriage. and as far as biology goes, lets talk about homosexuality. It is a naive follower's opinion that homosexuality is a choice. Why would anyone choose a life of persecution and inequality? To be roasted my the "majority", the religious who do as they are told. judge all you want. Get to heaven, you'll be fine. Why would you want these "disgusting" people there with you anyways? Just go on sleeping soundly at night with the belief that you are more righteous than those who do not follow your faith. I'd rather end up in the afterlife with the rest of the non believers, "burning in flames", if it meant I didn't have to listen to you all spew your crap.
DianLarkin = Typical wack job. I bet she is from California. And to think this wasnt about free speach??? Come on now. Keep on like this and I will be against any rights for gays if that is the way you are going to treat people. Youre GAY rights do not trump anyone elses... so get of your high horse and get some common sense. Its people like you and Perez that will kill the gays in this country having any marital rights. People will get tired of your BS and stop supporting you. I already have after this incident...
By the way, why cant gays just accept civil union (with the same rights as a married couple) and move on???
And Dessa... come on now. The US is a little behind the times on nudity. I lived in Europe for a few years and there are topless beaches everywhere. So your saying that none of them are good Christians??? A woman being topless is only taboo because people in our society make such a big deal about it.
dianlarkin..... Most Americans, including President Obama, former President Bush, former President Clinton do share that opinion.
God is an equal opportunity sin hater..He does Hate all sin....but He Loves all People.
Where did you get your opinion of what God says on this subject ? My Bible is very clear
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination."
Leviticus 18:22 (KJV):"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
I know many don't believe The Bible or that God even exists so scripture means nothing.
Marriage has a definition. It is a union between a man and a woman.
Honestly, just find another name for the rest of the combinations. The overwhelming majority of Americans are not opposed to companies having health benefits extended to "civil union" partners, or hospital rights or inheiritance rights.
Mike in Delray: The Bible, as good a text as it may be as a general guide to living a decent, humble life, it is not the word of God.
It is the words of a bunch of closeminded, biggoted lawmakers thousands of years ago as a means to frighten their people into submission to their every whim.
If the overwhelming majority were not opposed to it, then it wouldn't be an issue and the laws would be made, stating everyone is equal on every front. I do agree, Christians are not going to stop crying, so just find another name for marriage and leave them in the dust with no word on the matter.
I wholeheartedly agree with Miss California on same sex marriage so I do not have an issue with her on that. The problem I have with her is that she falsified her application about nude or seminude photos. Mr. Trump wanted to know who can remember what they did when they were seventeen. Well . . . I am 71 years old and believe me if I had posed for seminude photos at that age (17), I would remember it. I posed for a very demure photo when I was 21 and it came back to haunt me this year. This was in a one piece bathing suit and quite truthfully after all these years, I was kind of proud of it. Had it been seminude, I would have been mortified if it had been disclosed.
Miss California? Who gives a flying fig? She represents nothing! Who cares if she keeps her "crown" as if it signifies anything. Don't you get something like that on New Year's Eve? Half naked photos? Half of the pageant is conducted half-naked! As for her views? Who cares what she thinks? If you agree with her, then she is a genius, if you disagree, she is a half-witted bimbo. Either way, she represents nothing. Pageants are ridiculous, sexist parades that are degrading to both men and women and highlight nothing more than well-done highlights and a neat bikini line. Scholarship competitions? Yeah, right. There have been beauty contests for as long as I can remember, but I still haven't seen "World Peace" What are all these women waiting for? Just sayin'
Amen Fazool!!!!!!!!
I support both Mr. Trump and Carrie. Had she not won anything, we would not have seen those photos. Also, if that Perez person did not want her honest opinion, he should not have asked. He baited her and she remained true to herself. We all need to learn that lesson.
Well, what do you know, free speech rules! Props to the trump
She has the right to her opinion, but everyone has has to right to free speech with regard to HER OPINION, too.
Though I completely disagree with her stance on gay marriage, how about the runner-up in this pageant focus on something less divisive like SPECIAL OLYMPICS, her original platform? That is one of the points the organization was upset about but got squashed in the news.
In regard to the ignoramus who said Hilton shouldn't be a judge because he doesn't even like women, many gay men are pageant coaches, judges, dress designers...Miss California just told a huge community that supports these stupid pageants (for some reason) that she thinks they don't deserve equal civil rights, even if they choose to be gay. Her statements become scarier every day.
If it is a "civil right" than give them a "civil union". I don't think it is right that they cannot visit their loved ones in the hospital if they are ill or are unable to handle their own affairs but homosexuals should not enjoy the same rituals as heterosexual couples because marriage is also a religious ceremony and not just a civil one. Throughout the history of mankind, marriage has never been accepted as between two men in any major religion and since our government was founded on the basis of Judeo-Christian beliefs changing that fundamental fact would alter the fabric of our nation. I find it fascinating that the party of no God and the separation of church and state are constantly wanting to redefine a religious ceremony for their benefit. They whine about the US imposing their beliefs on people in foreign countries and yet here they are constantly attacking a tradition in our country and attempting to impose their beliefs on a majority of the population. Not even ultra-liberal CA is for gay marriage and yet when the liberals lose a ballot initiative, which is literally the voice of the people, they try to override the people by going to a bunch of liberal judges all the while claiming to defend the rights of the very people they are attempting to overrule! When are people going to wake up and realize that they are not really that liberal?
Why worry? She has no power over anyone. She wasn't spreading hatred. She was asked a question and gave a truthful answer.
She never said they dont deserve equal rights... she doesnt beleive in gay marriage. I dont either. Marriage has always been a religious ceremony. Why not let gays havea civil union???? Call it civil union and she doesnt have any issue with it. Its the gays in this country that are pushing for the term "marriage". It really has nothing to do with rights at all or this would be a non issue.
It never ceases to amaze me how those who oppose "gay marriage" don't also oppose a lot of things that go on in our society and our called "marriage." Common-law "marriage," for example, requires neither a religious ceremony nor an official license. Yet upon death of one of the partners, the other receives the benefits of those who are "married." "Re-marriage" also receives equal legal standing, even though some churches don't recognize them as "marriages." Even polygamy seems to meet with less scorn at times. Could someone please explain this disparity in legal, non-biblical terms?
California does not recognize 'common-law' marriages. We do, however, recognize civil unions.
Jeff, I don't agree that liberals have nothing to do with gays. The gays have become a client of the left, with its tremendous influence. That's what I found rather frightening about this concerted attack on Miss Prejean...even thought I happen to disagree with her completely. And that is why I am glad she kept her crown.
I might add that it was not always so...just compare the treatment of gays in "Spartacus" by the leftist Howard Fast to "Advise and Consent," by conservative Allan Drury.
Jeff, I don't agree that liberals have nothing to do with gays. The gays have become a client of the left, with its tremendous influence. That's what I found rather frightening about this concerted attack on Miss Prejean...even thought I happen to disagree with her completely. And that is why I am glad she kept her crown.
I might add that it was not always so...just compare the treatment of gays in "Spartacus" by the leftist Howard Fast to "Advise and Consent," by conservative Allan Drury.
Cassandra, I'm sorry but Mr. Perez doesn't represent the entire gay community, nor does TMZ or other crappy tabloids. Bigotry is on both sides of the fence darling.
OMG! racy photos! i thought this was america where one is entitled to free speech? i guess that only applies if you are on a pro h o m o agenda?