A few years ago I read that over 90% of the homicides in L.A. County could be attributed to illegal aliens and I asked myself then when will somebody wake up and realize that this is an INVASION? Well, I guess the fact that they are now going to send troops to the border means that SOMEBODY gets it now.
Post a bounty on illegals, $2000 for a pair of feet, talk about a stimulus plan. The private sector would clear up this mess in a hurry. Think of the jobs this would create.
Radio host Glenn Beck has been commenting on this mess at the border for years. about time we take some action and get the wall built.
The "War on Drugs" is a war against humanity. Most of those in prison are not the dealers but fellow citizens, neighbors, brothers, sisters, moms and dads. This war cannot be won! It is insane! We have created a monster. The "War" kills hundreds more than the drugs ever could. It is creating criminals of people that are not criminals, no more so than all those sitting in the bars all around our nation drinking poison!
The only way to end this insanity is to legalize drugs, control them, and get them out of the hands of the bad guys, which sadly currently includes are own pharmaceutical industry.
"Illegal drugs" finance terrorists, promote corruption within Governments, kill innocent people, destroy ecosystems, create havoc at our borders, fuel gang violence on our streets, create criminals, cost taxpayers billions of dollars, promote social disharmony, and allow anyone to be a dealer, including your own kids.
The lack of education our society has on this issue is insipid. We act as if the only way we know how to deal with problems is to declare war on them!
What Would Jesus Do? This nation and current generation are as ungodly and antichristian as has ever walked upon this earth, but yet supposedly "In God We Trust." Which god? Did he speak the Word "Kaneh bosm?"
The problem we have is that no one knows what "Christ" is.
"Christ is Anointed" and there are 250 shekels of cannabis in the Holy Oil God instructed Moses to make in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament, Exodus 30:23, to anoint all Priests, Kings, and Prophets, for all generations to come, including that of Jesus and even today! The Greeks mistranslated the Word "kaneh bosm" as calamus. "Kaneh" is also listed as an incense tree in Song of Songs 4:14. The mistake was repeated in Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19.
Kaneh bosm! Christ used Cannabis, the Tree of Life, to heal the body and soul!
It is an invasion that we won't win. As long as American Citizens buy drugs, we send the message..." Welcome to America - We support terrorism." The people that buy this crap should be deported as well.
Somebody does get it as do most Americans,but try and convince Pelosi and Reid, and Obama if they close the border thats an entire voting demographic that could be turned away. Why do you think the kid gloves and giveaway programs for the ilegals,they are the future voters for the Democratic left that they hope can keep them in power forever. It doesn't matter the viloence that is spread or how many civilians and law enforcement willbe killed or how many states will be bankrupt all that matters is they will have a huge voting bloc to keep them in power. It will never be America first with these people pulling the strings and with George Soros and his bottomless well of cash they will never run out of money. This country is doomed unless a radical change takes place soon.
Feb 28, 2009 ...Drug cartels from South America have moved into West Africa, ... It's not just drugs but illegal immigrants abusing these borders and it's ... www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5818191.ece - Similar pages
Texas has one big advantage that Mexico doesn't - the death penalty. In Mexico, drug murderers put in prison live pretty well with the corruption prevalent there. They might be much more restrained in Texas. Not so much a problem in California, which technically still has the death penalty, but virtually never uses it. With over 650 on death row, California has only execured 13 prisoners in 32 years. They die of old age first.
Interestingly, though, prisoners typically live longer than the general outside population, because they have nutritional meals and regular exercise, and no worries about making a living - the State provides everything free of charge.
As an ex-cop, who worked undercover dope investigations, drug cartels and illegals are one in the same. They are illegal. What do you think they do, rise to the sound of the alarm clock, make coffee, breakfast, a quick shower and it's off to the office. They are illegal and they are involved in illegal activity, like the sale of Drugs.
BESMART you are the idiot!
26% of our Prisons are filled with illegal aliens. Many of which are very very violent drug dealers which are part of a Drug Cartel.
Before you speak or blog, you need to speak with someone in the trenches so you can get your facts right.
Captain above is 100% correct.............this could have been stopped long ago before it was a problem. beck and savage have talked alot about this. put regular or guard units on the border....build the damn fence. everyone worried about the terroist coming......well hundred and thousands potentials are crossing everyday with the government blessing......if this is going to stop.....citizens are going to have to be part of the solution.....
We may have guns, but unfortunately theirs are semi/automatic. :( I watched "Gangland" on the History channel all day yesterday and the constant message was the ability of the gang members to enter/exit the US easily to transport drugs and committ terrible acts of violence. I agree that we need to start policing the borders much better than we have been doing or it will only get worse. The sheer b@lls of these people to send out flyers with the threats should shed some light on the type of "people" we will be dealing with. And you thought the weapons of mass destruction that they had in the middle east were scary. These guys are much closer to home.
Close our southern border already!!!! If these are narcoterrorists, then pull the purse strings closed by stopping their drug trades and bringing it into the US. With the border closed weapons cannot make it into Mexico, and the cartels employees stuck in the US would hopefully be sniffed out without hte ability to get back into Mexico, no denaro or drugs to sell - what can they do here?
Working w/ Calderone is not and has not been working b/c he's in bed w/ the cartels. They'd have his head if he wasn't .
SILLY people.....get your head on straight. US is the biggest market for drugs. Multi billion dollar market. If we are craving and paying for this poison someone will will sell it to us. Blaming everyone else that is so typical of our arrogance. We spend billions in Columbia fighting the cartel, we pay to destroy poppy fields in Afghanistan and now Mexico. Why are we not working on killing the demand instead of going all over the world policing others? Simple solution would be to legalize and tax it but we rather burn billions on yet another stupid war we can ill afford.
whenever i see illegals moving close, i notice the gang grafitti starts - i don't care if that sounds whatever, that is my observation - there is no good from them coming here - stay out of my neighborhood, don't move close to me - all they do is bring property values down and bring gangs. those gangs and illegals need to be dealt with by the law. and fast
I was referring to those police Officers on the Streets, the Jail Guards watching over the Prisoners. Unfortunately, it is our Crooked Politicians who need to make things happen.
Those in the trenches are as frustrated as you and I. I did 15 years as a Police Office - had enough! I was fortunate to utilize tuition reimbursement to acquire a Masters Degree to get out of the rat race.
Our Politicians have absolutely no idea how to manage our tax dollars and when one looks at the Policies of both parties, one often wonders if their agenda even has the American People's best interest in mind. I truly believe they don't.
We truly need the American People to take back Government!
The solution is not difficult. It's just that the pro-illegal alien do-gooders are blocking the appropriate action. We need to take a page from the Chinese: Arrest anyone associated with the drug traffic, i.e., users and pushers. Jail the users and dry them out. If any return to illegal drugs in any way, execute them. Execute all pushers that have been arrested.
Then, arrest all Muslims and illegal aliens. Pass a federal law declaring the Muslim religion a threat to our national security. We did this to the Communists after World war II and it worked. Deport all of them, with a warning that if they return to the United States, they'll be executed.
conservative666: Bush is proof enough you guys belong in a padded cell. Problem lies WINTHIN United States......can you spell DEMAND? Your moronic hero paid plenty to get his share of pills. Just say NO....war on drugs....moronic solutions. You cant' kill the demand so make it a taxable enterprise.
You rather bomb every country then just stop Junior from getting his fix!!
Mr Rogers
Are you suggesting that the small groups of Cartel in each city in America are LEGAL CITIZENS?
If we deport all the Illegals, I'll bet we will have deported 95% of the Cartel groups in America.
I for one am sick and tired of foreigners profiting off the backs of our children. As parents we try real hard to keep them from drugs. Children do not have what it takes to fight the neighbor hood drug dealers so lets close our borders take back our country and save our children.
Uh...BeSmart (why don't you?) -- I'm not in the habit of stating the obvious, so I didn't see the need to explain my connecting illegals to this article, but for YOU I'll try. By now I thought that everyone in the U.S. was aware that the great spike in murders in California (L.A. & surrounding areas in particular) was due almost entirely to the illicit drug trade. And by extension, if over 90% of the murders can be attributed to illegal aliens, then... Come on, boy, you can do it...THINK...are you folllowing me now? Am I going too fast? I can't make it any simpler. If anyone else can break this down to an even more basic line of reasoning explain it to him/her.
I see a lot of posts bashing the Mexicans. The problem is with the US. People in this country like to get high. Some of you are probably drunk, with a cigarette popping prescriptions pills typing post and passing judgment. Give me a break. It is called suppy and demand. The demand is in the US. The USA is the only hipocritical country that does not know how to deal with this proble. Legalize, tax, erase the debt and give the american people a refund.
jbird - They might 'get it', but will they be able to use the guns they carry? You remember what happened last time our border patrol guys used deadly force against a major drug runner....they got arrested and put in jail.
Maybe we now have a sane and intelligent President who will get his hind legs up and do something about this growing crime problem.
Imagine this....a lot of us have been saying all along, BUILD THE FENCE. Beef up the Border agents. Shoot and ask questions later. Oops better not do that one. Like Ramos and Campean there will be time spent in the cooler!
I agree with all the comments regarding border patrol.... Obama wants to create jobs, Well, theres CLEARLY a need here, so lets see if he has the balls to address this issue. Oh, and when the "superhighway" is running full force, there's gonna be a whole lot more drugs/illegals to deal with!
Rightman - please show facts on Europeans being here first??? They have evidence of Asian in the Americas from 14,000 years ago. Possibly longer - 28,000 years ago. I have never seen anything on Europeans here that long ago. Could you please provide a site? I'm interested.
According to the still-debated New World migration model, a migration of humans from Eurasia to the Americas took place via Beringia, a land bridge which formerly connected the two continents across what is now the Bering Strait. The most recent point at which this migration could have taken place is c. 12,000 years ago, with the earliest period remaining a matter of some unresolved contention.[1]
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned legalization of drugs, it would solve the problem of violence. Drug sales can also be taxed and thus provide a revenue stream. Also the level of drug addicts wont rise dramatically, at most a couple %. United states has the largest prison population in the world and the majority of the people incarcirated are there because of drug offenses. By legalizing drugs billions of dollars would be saved each year and crime will also go down dramatically. The war on drugs has failed for the past 40 plus years, it simply doesnt work when will people realize this.
Stricter penalties for users in the states. Put pressure on santuary cities such as LA to do away with policies such as special order 40. Put troops on border and fortify the border fence as much as possible. Crack down more on employers in US that employ illegals. They need to be threatened with heavier financial penalties and prison time. Stop US banks from allowing illegals to have bank accounts. Stop illegals from being able to get mortgages. Prohibit states from giving benefits to illegals such as driver's licenses.
We truly need the American People to take back Government!
After the last election, it would seem the American people made their feelings known. I think the people will have more influence on this government than the last, which was referred to as a "dictatorship" by many:
So it would seem that the American people have made their choice, and they are willing to give President Obama plenty of slack considering that the current economic mess is not his fault (even though the Republicans are blaming him for everything they can!). Judging by his high approval ratings, it would seem that the people believe they have taken back their government...and this method is far, far better than Sean Hannity's lame-brained idea of an armed revolution...
as always... a day late and a dollar short. For such an intelligent nation, why do our elected leaders not nip it in the bud?! Anyone with half a brain could see that the influx of "ILLEGAL" immigration would be a problem on many levels. Drug smuggling has been a well known problem for 25+ years. And in that time Mexico and the US allowed the cartel to become very powerfull - because they could. Again, we have an out of control issue that is going to result in loss of life and mega dollars in an attempt to get some control over.
Why, at the least, after 9/11 did we not close the borders?
Why did we not take illegal immigration more seriously at the onset when we knew they were sneaking into the US AND WORKing here illegally?
I am all for LEGAL immigration. My ancestors and to go through the proper channels, they were also told they would be deported if they became a burden on American society. There was no 'political correctness' BS.
I love our country, but I shake my head daily at what goes on here. How the elite criminals are treated differently from the middle class. How our politicians close their eyes to taking care of Americans first and how the rise in greed has taken over good character. I would really like to hear our state senator John McCain's and former Governor Janet Napolitano's explaination for why the growing border issues were ALLOWED to grow into what it has become. First we in Phoenix were #1 in auto theft and now we're the #1 city for kidnapping.
I think the US of A is in big trouble. We are finally hitting rock bottom. Maybe Barack Obama & administration will help bring back some decency and character to us proud Americans.
wasnt the democrats in control of the congress the last couple of years bush was in office? and who started exporting our companys across the borders? and when they attacked the world trade center the first time who was in office and did nothing? My point is everyones pointing at bush and they should all be grown up and say we did this to our selves, bush warned about freddie and mae in his first 4, but didnt follow through and clinton relaxed the controls over banking. oh yea build the fences not just for drugs but doyou think that a terorst can just walk/swim across also< srry almost went on a rant remeber obama didnt when every state, just the ones that count!!!
Gee man. You must be right up odumbos pant leg. You sir, from what I have seen of your other posts, are totally bilnded to the truth as most far far left dems/libs are. Then again, you are probably happy that odumbo and dumb azz pelosi are running the country. Free money for jooo right?
"Close the border! Just close the border. Let the peace-loving people of Mexico figure it out for themselves.... "
Close the border? Do you think this is the right solution? Enhance the border and weed out the drug business and the corruption within the border itself. But you cannot close a border just becuase there are problems. How about the trade and industries that are passing vice versa? Do you think it is only Mexico needs the border? U.S. needs that borders too for business and economic reason.
Police the border efficiently but not close it! Think positively my friend don't just jump on your emotion. I am a Chef and we are relying on Tuna fish supply in Mexico. this is only one example. if you close the border we have to import Tuna in Japan. Would you like that? How much will be the Tuna fish products? Do you think the prices will shrink? I am only talking about the Tuna fish. Imagine what are other products that this country needed most on our daily lives that passes that border. And, you wanted it to be close?
Gee man. You must be right up odumbos pant leg. You sir, from what I have seen of your other posts, are totally bilnded to the truth as most far far left dems/libs are. Then again, you are probably happy that odumbo and dumb azz pelosi are running the country. Free money for jooo right?
Please post something intelligent.
Why do you say that...because I listed five sources to back my claim? How do you back up your simpleton name calling? You want something intelligent...and by the way, true? How's this:
Obama's approval rating has risen to 67%. Even if it drops by 10% right now, he's still over 60%, which is quite good given the current economic climate. His approval rating is even up amongst your Republican buddies:
That's at about the approval rating for George W. Bush in his last couple of years.
So now that I've posted more facts, which incidentally don't say much about where you stand...start with the juvenile name calling again. Truth hurts, don't it? And since I agree with the majority on this one...how do you determine who is "totally bilnded (sic) to the truth"? My version of the truth has more weight behind it...where does yours come from, Rush Limbaugh? What a joke...
"The head of FEMA until 1985, Giuffrida also once wrote a paper on the Legal Aspects of Managing Disorders. Here is some of what he said:"
"No constitution, no statute or ordinance can authorize Martial Rule. [It commences] upon a determination (not a declaration) by the senior military commander that the civil government must be replaced because it is no longer functioning anyway . . . The significance of Martial Rule in civil disorders is that it shifts control from civilians and to the military completely and without the necessity of a declaration, proclamation or other form of public manifestation . . . As stated above, Martial Rule is limited only by the principle of necessary force."
Those words come from a time when Giuffrida was the head of then-Governor Reagan's California Specialized Training Institute, a National Guard school. It was not, for Giuffrida, a new thought. In 1970 he had written a paper for the Army War College in which he called for martial law in case of a national uprising by black militants. Among his ideas were "assembly centers or relocation camps" for at least 21 million "American Negroes."
"With U.S. forces fighting two wars abroad, the nation's top military officer made an important visit last week to forestall a third.
He went to Mexico.
El Paso cited as possible target New fears are rolling across the region, stemming from recent indications by cartel leaders that they are prepared to extend their war across the border, most likely into Texas and Arizona. ..
Texas pleads for U.S. troops Now, to hear Texas Gov. Rick Perry tell it, U.S. resources are being focused too much on Mexico and not enough on Americans on this side of the border.
Last month, Perry called on the Department of Homeland Security to send 1,000 troops to the U.S. side of the border. Complaining that the federal government had not done enough to protect Americans in the border region, Perry dismissed potential constitutional concerns about assigning active-duty U.S. personnel to military operations inside the United States, saying bluntly, “I really don’t care.”
FEMA ,at this time ,is relocating their "Clergy emergency response team" members. I know of two personally that are being relocated to Texas.
Rumors of Texas Seceding from the Union. Mexican Federal Military in Juarez. Talk of US Military assistance/intervention.Mexico labeled Narco Terrorist State. The proof is above and below.
Arrest those that would/will /have subvert(ed) the rights of the US citizen through the declaration/implementation of Martial Law without Congressional Oversight by the suspension of the Constitution of the Republic of the USA.This is a coup d'etat people.
I have no problem with her. She is trying to advance the Democratic agenda. I understand, though, that Republicans -- of which you are most likely one -- don't care for her, just like Democrats didn't think too highly of Republicans who have held the same or similar positions. Go into a room full of Democrats and say names like Dennis Hastert, former majority whip Tom Delay, or worst of all, Newt Gingrich, and see what reaction you get.
Yes, we knew these things YEARS ago, and no one cared. Now that it's escalated into major wars, they care. No one also cared about Mexicans - undocumented and illegals coming into our country, not paying taxes, reaping benefits from MY tax dollars either ... NOW people 'seem' to care.
Deport them all! Close the borders! and especially keep those pregnant women in Mexico so that we don't have to support them!
I’m a concerned citizen who has a problem with the Mexican and American government not cooperating enough to decrease the amount of violence south of our border. In the past fourteen months 8,000 people have been murdered as a result of an escalating drug war between three powerful Mexican drug cartels. 90% of weapons comes from the United and are fueling this war. So far there has been little on the United States part to stop the blood shed on the border that is spilling into American soil. 230 cities in the United States are known to be operated by Mexican drug cartels with 90% of cocaine and most of the marijuana coming from them. American government only helped with 1.4 million dollars to help train and equip the law enforcements of Mexico and sent 1,400 American soldiers to protect our border. In Arizona alone there have been two hundred kidnaps or hostages taken and in august there have been 5 murders in a city of Alabama all linked to Mexican Cartels. This information should turn on light bulbs to officials of Homeland security that this is a threat to the United States.
Our government should stop the flow of weapons into Mexico by regulating a firearm laws on the bordering states. We also need more troops to the boarder on both sides to help decrease the carnage. Mexico needs more funding and resources from the U.S. to counter-act the narcotterrorist. This is our problem too and we should take some precautions before we end up in the middle of the war zone.
Umm...Solution: Legalize, grow and produce all of the drugs Americans most prefer...right here in the USofA.. Government controlled and taxed.... Let's see...how many ways can I count the benefits of this. It would not only solve the current situation, it would decrease our prison populations, decrease violent crimes, increase tax revenue to the point that we could send billions more to NY. Let's face it, half of our population has tried or smokes marijuana occasionally..some more than they should.. Unlike alcohol, marijuana doesn't tend to make our population violent. The only drugs that should be illegal are those that violence is a consequence..which currently are all of them...because they're illegal. Employers will continue to have the right to drug test employees as they wish.. Why is everyone so worried about legalizing drugs in a controlled manner? It just seems to me that making them illegal creates more of a problem..than it solves. If marijuana or ecstacy remains illegal...then so be it...make alcohol illegal as well because it's just down right hypocritical to legalize one over the other. Gosh!... The tax potential.. Imagine, we could fund our schools directly from the newly collected taxes and subsequently educate kids properly about the good and the bad surrounding drugs...and the consequences of their choices to use or to not use.. At least they won't be shot innocently during a drug war... Do you really think this would encourage drug use? I think not..drugs are already readily available...thanks to the Mexican mafia.. Great entrepreneurs! Only wish our government could be so creative!
Nah.. bad idea eh? Let's just keep everyone scared and let the killing continue..
I agree with you. Those who do not choose to partake in drug use will not be enlightened to do so simply because it has been legalized. Alcohol is just as dangerous and it is considered legal to use and abuse.
If we legalize, tax it and control it everyone enjoys the revenue..
Although, these scum bags will always find something to extort.
The illegal mexicans are destroying many areas. I know they have changed the face of Palm Beach florida completely. Rise in gang violence, drug trafficking, murders etc. I am not saying all of them are bad but unfortunately the majority are.
Many illegal aliens lie and cheat from birth to survive in their country and unfortunately bring those same behaviors to America.
This makes complete sense. I agree 100%. When is the last time you saw a shoot out over the distribution of alcohol. Never, not since prohibition. If the government legalized it, the trouble makers would be out of buisness or could import it legally. I think the govern ment fears people growing their own marijuana making a profit and getting out of debt. The drug war is not working. The CIA just wants to maintain their monopoly on the drug trade. The more people this government locks up means that the USA will have cheep labor.
I agree with the utmost enthusiasm.I believe that prohibition on marijauna started this mess.We should decriminalize it,then the profit for smugglers would decrease to the point where there is no profit in doing it anymore.Grow your own,America!!
This country could legalize the weed but its heroin, meth, cocaine that brings in the hugh bucks. If you legalize those the kids of this country will become dope addicts because they have to prove they can do what they want when they want. It's the same about alchohol, the kids can't wait to go out and drink themselves into a stupor because it shows they are macho.
Both borders need to be patroled by the military of both countries, no one in no one out. All ships large or small to be searched along with airlines. Any small plane flying flying in from Mexico to be shot down without warning since the cartels will know that would happen. You cut off the routes of drug smuggling their money will dry up and so will they.
This is a bigger menace to this country than terrorism from the middle east. If our military is going to fight it should be done here and not in someone elses.
Why not? No worse than some of the ads I see on TV where side affects can cause suicidal tndencies in everyone taking them. Only difference is that one is made by Big Pharma and the other by south american labs. Oh yeah and the dose price.... Leagalized doesn't mean selling it on a stand at the flea market or that just anyone can get it. It just means you don't get jailed just for having it on you.
I think we should round up all the dope addicts and throw THEM out, no matter what their ethnicity. See how many snotty white punk teenagers are left in the suburbs then. If there wasn't demand, this wouldn't be happening. They came here because we have a plentiful supply of money and a plentiful supply of lazy idiots with nothing better to do all day then spend Daddy's money shooting up or snorting up or whatever. So before you go on with your America the Great, Cowboy, Maverick horsepoop stop and think a moment, please.
Also if you think The Wall was so great then you never knew a family that got split between East and West Germany. I have. Heartbreaking.
Even getting rid of the possession law would help. Make it legal to grow and own. Make it legal to sell only with a license (like alcohol.) If more people were properly educated on cannabis, there would be much less opposition.
I can see it now. Many already have stopped the use of cigarettes in public places. Should the use of wacky backy become law how soon will laws be passed to prohibit smoking weed in public places? Oh, I forgot, the libs are against cigs but they love the mary jane. I guess that would be exempt.
Sorry but it want decrease crime they still cant afford them since they cant work while on drugs , so they will still have to rob, burgle , kill , steal well you get the message.
1.4 Billion to Mexico for training and equipment? You have got to be kidding me!. First put up the wall between the US and this hellhole Mexico with very limited access ports. Pay for the materials and the Army guys can put it up lickety split.Stop the illegals and the drugs at the source. Next take a couple of Appache helicopters and go to town on the cartels. They know who they are and where they are and just wipe out the problem. Empty our jails of illegals (which accounts for about 25% of the incarcerated and dump them over the wall back into their own country. Round up the illegals who work here like they did last week and dump them over the wall. Keep it up until we are free of this cancer. Man, when is enough enough!
I like this thinking!! You have my vote. Every point you've stated has a reason and clear objective. We won't need to print two and three langauges on an instruction sheet anymore. Speak English please. Thank You!! I have to keep telling my neighbors this when i tell them to turn down the music. Very loud people!! And they move out in the middle of the night and leave the place a mess. Seen that way to many times. Send them all home to there communities.
I can see all of the trailer trash is in the house tonight.OMG, bunch of racist bigots! Innocent people are dying because of Americas love of drugs. American parents do drugs and they let their kids get high with them too. Good'ol american tradition. This is the reason why Mexico is in shambles now. Americans, you have blood on your hands once again..... STOP DOING DRUGS!!! AND STOP KILLING YOUR CHILDREN. AND ONE MORE THING WHY DO ALL THE WHITE CHILD MOLESTERS LIVE IN FLORIDA OH YEA, BECAUSE MOST CHILD MOLESTERS ARE WHITE....
Right now I'm thinking.... And they want gun control. How are we to defend ourselves if they let Americans have single shot weapons and the "bad guys" have multiple shot weapons? Guns don't kill people, people kill people!!! If somebody wants to kill someone then they will with anything they have,may it be with a stone,spear or even their own hands,they will find a way. Americans!!!! stand up and defend yourselves, if you fear for you life then prepare for the worst. I think self defense is a no brainer and as soon as the justice and governmental system realizes this we will be on our way to a safer environment.
Before I moved to AZ I had a 30-30 for deer hunting (never shot a deer) - now I have a .38 and am well versed in its use. A friend asked me if I could actually shoot someone and I answered yes. Anyone breaking into my home would be met with lethal force. No - I am not a member of the NRA - I am a 72 year old female who will protect myself and my property, even if I end up in jail for doing so.
Solution to the border problem: close the border completely. No traffic going or coming from either side. No illegals, drug runners coming from Mexico into our country and no money and arms going into Mexico from the U.S.
It can be done if we consider this an act of war against our country, and that is what it is. Put the National Guard with the Border Patrol and give them orders to shoot to kill anyone attempting to cross into or out of the U.S. or if they are attacked in any way.
The sooner we realize that this is an actual war, the sooner we will adopt measures to protect our own country and our own people.
Yeah...it's amazing. But watch for the spin by the White House, and the Dems to make this a gun control issue. They are already starting it. Instead of ptoecting our right to repel invaders, protect ourselves and our familes, from both outside forces and tyranical governmenst....they think guns are for deer hunting. The biggest bunch of dumbasses I have ever seen. Listen up folks...the 2nd Amendment was not created for sport shotting. It was, and IS, the Federal Governments right to protect your 2nd Amendment right...not reduce it. But they try to spin it like the drug cartels go down to the local stores and purcahse their fireams....sure they do.
There are a lot of things that can be done. Don't patronize any mexican businesses. Stop electronic money transfers to mexico, vote out the politicians who want to give Amnesty to these Illegals. The "path to citizenship" that Obama and Biden want should tell you that they do not have the american interests at heart. Get Armed and Get Organized against these people in your neighborhoods. They come here and sell drugs and send the money back to mexico and when they get hurt they just go to the ER and you pay for it. Stop renting houses for them to live in while they sell drugs. Confiscate the houses that they do rent or buy. Revoke the citizenships of the "anchor babies" . They get food stamps and welfare while you pay for it. If the government won't do it, we have to.( and if you have to shoot aim for the head, we need donors ).
Craig...MY mulitple shot weapons are NOT illegal. See the second ammendment. As for your brainwashedness, you should seek help. Once you give up the second ammendment, all the rest will follow. just a historical fact that you overlooked.
Revoke citizenship?! Are you freaking kidding me?? What kind of a country do you want to live in?
I would entertain the idea of closing the 'anchor baby' loophole for future cases, but applying a law like that retroactively is simply wrong. Facist, even. There are other ways of dealing with the problem. Besides, most children of illegals I ever knew in school grew up to be contributing members of society. I question whether you are more motivated by true concern for what's best for the country or plain old racism.
If the citizenship is Illgotten gains, it should be revoked. Illegally born here is still Illegal. If your parents came here illegally, you are a citizen of the country where they came from. Citizenships are revoked every year. where have you been? Now patriotic americans are facists?
Don;t know why you are so mad at me. Apparently no one ever bothered to explain the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment to you. If you don;t want to exercise your right...that's perfectly fine. You be a victim if you want, I will protect myself and my family.
Just saw you called me a dumbs---t. Boy, you are lucky there are dumbsh....ts like me protecting your right to say such a thing...but I won't get into that. I tell you what though....read the Constitution, the Declaraton of Independence, some writings by Jefferson, Patrick Henry....and when you a little something get back to me and we can discuss further.
I know this is about illegals and all, BUT I just went down to get my concealed permit and found out from them that there is a bill in the House HR 45, that is a gun control bill that will seriously impede your right to carry a gun. Did you know, that among other things, this bill will have a stipulation that the governmentcan actually force you to undergo a psychiatric evaluation? Yeah, pretty stupid.
If the government is not going to protect us, we must defend ourselves, and they are trying to strip away that right! Call your Representative today. And fire a email off to that nut Pelosi who is just about to ruin the country with her Socialist agenda!
That, friend is the POINT behind gun control. The Mexicans AND our government want us disarmed. So we can't protect ourselves our loved ones from the bad guys. The nut cases like that kid shooting the pastor. . . are a tiny fraction of a percent of gun owners. Not even one percent of legitimate gun owners go "bad." The media feasts on this because the liberal lunatics WANT and clamor for total disarmament of American citizens. Disarmament generally being the first requirement of any dictatorship, a historically proven reality!
All that money sent to Mexico ended up in the hands of the drug lords to use to arm themselves against the government. The Mexican goverment is just about as corrupt as the USAs.
I have to agree with one of the comments above when it comes to legalizing some of our popular drugs in the US. I do not think we should flat out legalize all drugs, some just have way to harmful of side effects and crimes related to their addiction. But things like marijuana? Common that's ridiculous, the only people that get killed from that drug are people that get caught up in the trade, not the use. People do not over dose from marijuana, never been a recorded case of it, ever.
Taking the growth, production, distribution, and sale of a few of these drugs out of the cartels hands, is the only real means of ending their power grip. Because the need/desire for these drugs is not going to just go away, as long as their is a need someone will find a way to supply it. Making it illegal only makes that supply and demand become violent and uncontrolled.
Taking all that into consideration, we could put more people to work growth, producing, and distributing ourselves. Then add a whole new flow of revenue for our country by selling it ourselves, not even counting the billions we would save not attempting to catch, arrest, and imprison the local pot dealer, and use a portion of that money to combat the REAL drugs that are a threat to us.
People can argue that smoking pot/hash can cause long term lung issues, which is true, but so does smoking cigarette, and living in major cities merely breathing the air. Pick your battle wisely, you cant control everything.
The only REAL danger in making drugs like weed legal is the rise in Taco Bell and Doritos stock.................
But legalizing drugs is only a small portion of the solution, we MUST close our southern border NOW!! If we keep tip-toeing around the issue it will be to late to do anything, and we will without doubt fall into financial ruin in the US.
No easy answer here. To, say, halt all trade relations with Mexico in general is just hair-brained. The Mexican GOVERNMENT was influenced by an influx on $$$ from the U.S. to engage the drug cartel and attempt to eradicate them. . hair-brained to begin with. Legalizing drugs? Won't happen in this society that cannot see the stupidity of legalizing "alcohol" and then pulling out the morality card when it comes to legalizing certain street drugs. . .WHATEVER! Closing the border isn't as simple as it sounds because even when we DID attempt this the illegals scooted over the invisible wall of guards anyway!!! We would have to put up a wall so high and so thick and so long that it would take eons to complete it. . only to have it torn down in the future when shinny, happy people syndrome hits. Putting our military on the border will draw the Mexican cartel gangs into a full on war against the U.S., and will prompt even more internal violence between gangs within the border states, and, ultimately, result in the death of many innocent civilians here in the U.S. The only viable proposition is that we, the American public as a whole, discontinue doing business with drug dealers. No problem since we are the society representing the most developed, intellectual and morally responsible people in the world, right? Nope. . won't work. Demand drives supply and AmericanS' gotta get they's dope on! What a cluster screw! This situation is going to escalate, and it won't be a quick cap in the arse smack-down of the cartel either. They are incredibly wealthy, prolifically connected and armed to the hilt. I dare say the cartel gangs would give our exhausted and weary military one H E L L of a fight. Terrorism is alive and well today, and we can thank our own American citizens for contributing to the problem! I say ban all alcohol, tobacco, drugs, etc. Put up road blocks for breathalyzers and urine tests that can be analyzed on the spot. Anyone testing positive is sent to walk the plank immediately. Of course, we would still have the problem of LEGAL drug abuse. . .hmm. . .I'll have to think about that one for awhile. No wait! Send these money grubbing pharmaceutical companies to the plank as well! They've got so many people hopped up on anti-depressants, anti-manic downers, Lortab, Oxycontin and Vicodin that people are walking around higher than a heroin addict! Oh. . .wait. . .that won't work. . .we need Viagra REALLY bad since the male genitalia IS the most important body part known to mankind! Well, I quess I'll throw up my hands . . .just out of ideas, I 'spose. Oh well. . .
Heck wait long enough and they will all be over here and Mexico will be empty and if ya survive the onslaught here, be empty country to go start over ! (sarcasm)
Hey Obama take note, THE INCREASED PRESENCE OF MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS IN AMERICA IS SUPPORTED BY UNCHECKED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FROM MEXICO. GUARD OUR BORDERS AND SEND THE ILLEGALS BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY ! ! ! Part of your job is to protect America, not to sit and watch our borders being over run by Mexican Drug Cartels and Criminals. If you can't or won't protect our borders than citizens in those border areas will protect their homes and families themselves. Making drugs legal is about the most stupidest idea I have heard and usually comes from those that stand to make profits from the legalization. Making it legal would only increase the violence and death caused by the Mexican Cartels.
Obama is a narcissest...meaning that he only cares about himself and where he is going to be able to get votes...He does not care about this country it is so obvious in all his speeches and in his writtings...Obama is about Obama. One must not underestimate the manipulative genius of a pathological narcissist. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands...They cheerefully do his bidding...and Obama has np intention of doing any thing that does not add to his voter base...... ( examples of narcissists, Hitler, Stalin, Jim Jones,Davvid Koresh).America were screwed.......
JoeB, how dumb can one bè? Bush had 8 years to do somehting against the Mexican drug cartell and now it is suddenly Obama`s problem. You don´t think...legalization of drugs would do what the legalization of alcohol did...it would create a legal and state controlled market. I don´t see many gang fighting about a bottle of rum, do you?
Right, blame Obama for a problem that has been growing for decades. You sound just like the model conservative that unquestioningly blames all that is bad on the fictional and so-called "liberals". Get some education and lay off the hate juice. Your black and white world has always been full of color and you refuse to see it.
As for being liberal: I own a bunch of weapons, some with high-capacity legal magazines. I have a concealed carry permit. I've never taken any illicit drugs. I'm for legalization of ALL drugs. I voted for McCain as senator, Obama as President. I know that Rush LimpPaw is an idiot. Does all that fit your idea of your fictional liberal?
Okay Obama. Time to step out of your fantasy world and step up to the plate. Take a wad of that pork out of your stimulus package and apply it to this immense invasion problem. Knock off your stupid little weekly town political meetings and your frequent Air Force One trips and get with the program of protecting America as a top priority. It is your job, do it now.
Obama* has the job now, ! can he do it? odds are that he will fail just as Bill Clinton repeatedly failed to get Osama Bin Ladin. The government won't put this on a national Referendum because they make a lot of money from Marijuana alone and they can confiscate the property of people like you. it is time to put the government on notice that we want it, and if you don't let us have it you will be retired from office. Like prohibition.
Krock ... you are so right. This problem didn't start on January 21, 2009. I'm a Republican, but I think that blaming every problem on a man who has been in office for less than 50 days is just being vindictive. Which problems did Bush solve in his first two months in office? Iran? North Korea? The Middle East? Healthcare? The Taliban?
I'm willing to give Obama some time. And, unlike the de-facto head of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh, I hope that he succeeds. Because, heaven help us all if he fails ....
Actually, Bush was working on trying to complete the fence in record time before Obama came in office. I forget how many miles, but alot of fence went up between Sept and January. I think he knew that this would become a back seat project once Obama got in. And everybody knew Obama would get in after the early October surprise. Stop the illegals!! Deport them ASAP.
Wow, the KKK has just changed names and taken to the news comment blogs. Please comment more frequently so we can experience the full extent of your voluminous illiteracy. People like you only have to write ten words and it exposes you so fully that it is like you disrobed in church. How can you not know the magnitude of your hate and misdirection?
Tunnel passages across an international border into the United States have become a real problem. There are 40 such tunnels that have been discovered since 9/11, and the great bulk of them are on the southern border. Large-scale smuggling of drugs, weapons, and immigrants takes place today through these tunnels. One tunnel running from San Diego to Tijuana was marked by inordinate sophistication. It was a half mile long. It went 60 to 80 feet deep, 8 feet tall. It had a concrete floor. It was wired for electricity. It had drainage. At one end, 300 pounds of marijuana were found, and at the other end, 300 pounds of marijuana. What was interesting is that the California entry into the tunnel was a very modern warehouse, a huge warehouse compartmented but empty and kept empty for a year. In one office there was a hatch in the floor. It looked much like the hatch which Saddam had secreted himself in. But lifting that hatch disclosed a very sophisticated tunnel. It went under other buildings all the way across the double fence into Mexico and up in Mexico in a building as well.
I don't think you live in the real world with the rest of us on this legalization idea. Most of us don't want hardcore drugs to be legal, but we do see how retarded it is to waist literally billions attempting to prevent people from smoking a plant that grows every were. Pot is no more dangerous then alcohol and there for has no reason to be illegal.
I have absolutely nothing to gain from it being legal, I work in an office and my pot smoking years ended at least 10 years ago. But I do see it as being a costly, pointless fight over something that really is not as bad as the government attempts to make it.
As far as increasing the cartels violence by making it legal, where is your logic in that? If we can make it ourselves and sell it at a cheaper rate, we have eliminated the need for the cartel. Same way abolishing Prohibition has almost totally gotten rid of moonshiners. You may have short term increase in violence due to the cartels not wanting to loose there money in all this. But if you control the market they will run out of money to fight you in short work. Takes money to buy bullets, we take that money they can not shoot at you can they?
Part of the point of this is, it is about time the Government stops attempting to tell everyone what they should and should not be able to do becuase they believe its in moral. If its dangerous the public around you then fine, but weed is not. Smoking pot does not make people go on murder rampages, it does not make people go rob others, and it does not turn people into prostitutes to supply their habit. Pot makes people laugh, sleep, eat junk food, and horny....Nothing more, nothing less.
It's not just the Pot (which I believe to have Medical Indications for some disorders and diseases) that the Cartels deal in - they do Meth, Cocaine, Heroine, and let us not forget gold ol' Madame "X" (Ecstasy ). Think our Health Care is stretched now, we would have to havea Rehab. Center on every corner. Think of all the money to be made, and not jus the Pot distributors. Having the Gov. support the market, well since when has the Gov. under any Administration managed anything close to well. Thanks for the input Michigan, I enjoy the change of ideas. The more ideas, the higher the possibility of a workable solution.
I agree with you partially. I totally agree that such things as heroine, cocaine, and X should remain illegal and that yes the cartels deal in this. But statistically the drugs most sold and distributed in the US is weed. All im saying is pick your battles carefully, somethings are pointless in fighting, such as a pot smoking. Take all the extra money from that and fight the real drugs of issues such as thous you mentioned.
Legalizing pot simply leaves more and harder drugs for them to make money on. And if we do legalize it and the problem gets worse or even brings in a whole new set of problems, what then, say oops we tried. What we've got is a group of people unwilling or incapable of showing personal responsibility and to justify their actions are saying it's the governments fault and just give up and let us do our thing. It's always someone else's fault. Users, fine the hell out of them, not these nickle and dime token fines. Dealers, very harsh prison sentences. Violent gangs and cartels, destroy them, brutally if necessary, but completely. And if it takes the armed forces or national guard, then so be it. Whether they are in Iraq or Arizona, they have to be paid, and the border states are much better liberty areas than Iraq during their off duty times, not to mention the boost to the economy. We have at this point in time, more people in this country involved in this invasion with the intent of destroying or dictating our way of life than Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, North Korea, North Vietnam,Iraq, and Afghanistan combined were ever able to accomplish. If the government can't or won't deal with this problem, properly and soon, then maybe the time has come for the people themselves to do it. The defense of this nation and it's citizens is after all one of the few activities the government was originally required to do from day1 of our existence. If the government insists on passing laws that benefit their particular party at the expense of what's right and best for the nation as a whole, I can see no reason to havethat government for anything. Oh, and for those that think the majority of weapons going to the cartels are coming out of gun shows in the US, you are wrong. It's estimated that firearms reaching the cartels excluding those stolen from the Mexican military or police, having origin in the US, is approximately 6%. The overwhelming majority of weapons imported for the cartels are coming from Brazil and Argentina. Don't beleive me, check it out.
Most of the people responding to this problem are too young to remember that in the 1920's you could legally buy "drugs" at the local Drug Store. The song that has the words in it that "I get no kick from cocaine" sung by Frank Sinatra, showed that it was a common usage.
Why not make it all legal again. Those people that abuse it (and die) are then no longer leaches on our society. Take the profitability out of the drug trade and the cartels would dry up.
Fortunarely or unfortunately you dismantled the only mob that could have taken care of this garbage. You traded one evil for a greater evil. You will not solve the problem by legalizing drugs. The governemnt will price and tax it out of the reach of most like ir does cigarettes and alcohol and other products IT deems harmful. Then you will stil heve bootlegging and wars for control of what's left. Don't kid youself, legalization is not the answer, it the cowards way out. You think DWI is a problem, legalize drugs and wait and see.
Not quite sure how making pot legal makes DWI's more of a problem? Its always been a problem and always will be, this isnt going to change this, becuase its a judgement call that is the problem not the drug. Its so easy for people to get pot with being illegal, the kids that dont smoke it, dont becuase they choose not to, just like kids that choose not to drink. So I dont see how making it legal would increase the risk of DUI's in the long run?
It dident in Amsterdam, and they have one of the lowest addiction and crime rates in the world.
Well I do believe you are right. I lived for many years in the San Diego region of southern Calif and could see the problems starting even then. Don't get me wrong. There are many many wonderful, honest, hard working, god fearing families of hispanics living in this country. But now many more are coming in that are the drug cartels. Pot should be made legal and grown here, taxed yes but not to the point that it would still be a benefit to the cartels to still try to push it here. I think we have waited to long to really get a good handle on this. I feel for all Americans living along our Mexican border. They will have a real hard time in the foreseeable future.
Why legalize drugs that are illegal and a sin to do? I'm sure the majority on this site have tried one or more drugs in their life to know the ramifications it can cause in a persons life. Spouse abuse, neglect on their children, lose your job, lose respect, lose your mind, LOSE YOUR LIFE! Legallizing drugs is not the answer to the problem. BURN IT ALL! Burn every village that grows it. Incarcerate every single drug dealer for life. If we can't stand up and fight for a good cause we might as well all lie down and let the drug cartel take over.
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Michigan: Smoking pot does not make people go on murder rampages, it does not make people go rob others, and it does not turn people into prostitutes to supply their habit.
You can think what you wish, we are all entitled to our oppinions, but the only reason any of the crimes associated with weed happen is becauase its illegal. Its illegal so the people who control it are gangs/cartels, they are the ones causing the violence not the pot smoker in his basement. Sorry I grew up in inner city Detroit and have NEVER seen a strung out pothead looking to sell her body for a joint, thats jut not how the drug effects you.
Dis-572070, What are you nuts, Educate yourself, marijuana is about as dangerous as TEA, Asprin kills 500 pr year in america. Marijuana 0 . Are you a cop a DEA terrorist or plain uneducated, Marijuana has never in human history harmed a soul, the prohibition has killed thousands. Find a new Job the war on drugs is a failure.
Yes Jeff, I have educated myself. I prefer to say NO to drugs! and who's to say that when the pot-smoker can't afford to buy it, he won't go out and shoot for it?! How do you think drug dealers collect their money now-if you don't pay up-you're dead! You can say what you want about marijuana - it's still no good.
DLS: You sound like you'd like to step in as the dictator to replace Saddam Hussein. "Burn it all", what an infantile position. Are you older than 16 or just a teeny-bopper with some angst to vent? PS. It isn't a good cause, by the way. It's just another IRAQ, a created sideshow.
If it were legally produced it would be much cheaper and the clerk at the gas station who sold it to you would probably call the police if you didn't pay up, not shoot you. The argument here isn't that marijuana isn't bad, it's that making it illegal causes more problems than it solves.
Its simple , legalize drugs , the profit is gone the cartels go away . Educate our youth with facts not propaganda , and drug use goes down problem solved , money saved , But most of you retards want to keep fighting a 70 year old unwinnable war .
Nope and I wouldn't allow him to drink prior to surgery either, what does your comment have to do with anything? I did not say allow people to get stoned and go to work, you cant drink and go to work. Come up with a logical argument and get back to me.
Big difference in recreational habits such as drinking or smoking weed and doing it on the job, cynics like to lump them together.
Another meaningless comment, Scrooge2. A man spends an extra 15 years getting a specialized education and he's going into surgery as a drug-addled practitioner? Your reality must be clouded in some sort of chemical fog.
I'm glad bush and his crooks are out of office or we would not even be hearing any of this. Now we can get something done. If Mccain was elected we would have 4 more years of mexican drug money running the US.
I urge everyone to pick up arms and protect your families and your country. We the people need to send a msg to our government and the drug lords. Or are we a bunch of cry babies. you decide.
Got news for you, Obama is slowing down the fence "reviewing it". Bunch of crap! And your right to bear arms is in seriously in jeoplardy due to HOUSE BILL 45 in committee now (I think). Your right to protect your family is going to be taken away by Obama and Pelosi and company. This bill, among other things, can force YOU to undergo a Psychiatric evaluation (at your expense, of course) to carry a concealed weapon. Not to mention the million dollar insurance policy they want to make ALL gun owners have to pay to even own a gun "in case of accidental shootings". In other words, they will make it so costly , the only ones who have guns will be the thugs on the streets, who trade and steal them, but they will know where to come and get yours when all else fails.
Obama and the Democrats, I don't care what they say, are NOT friends with the Second Amendment!
There is also a new law that several states are doing with concerns to ammunition. Those states are requiring ammo to have a serial number on them. Some states have already started this as of the first of this month. It also makes it a crime to reload your own ammo as well as possess any unserialed ammo after 2011.
Alcohol didn't cause the high crime rates of the '20s and '30s, Prohibition did. And drugs do not cause today's alarming crime rates, but drug prohibition does. – US District Judge James C. Paine, addressing the Federal Bar Association in Miami, November, 1991
No it is illegal because in the 50-60s the government attributed rights movements, anti-war protesting, and hippie's to smoking pot. The government seen weed as an immoral thing that caused people to be anti-government.
Ewe...! There's some truth to that...but a majority can and do...and the majority would like to make their own choices and not be told what their choices are by either the government or moral dictators.
Maria . It is illegal due to corporate manipulation of our senate, Marijuana prohibition came about through the banning of hemp, the greatest natural plant fiber in the world, clothing, paper, card board, 100% recyclable. Google, (NORML.ORG) and read . If you are truly american you will look, what you will find will really suprise you.
Marijuana- non addictive-non violant- can not OD period, no withdrawl.
So true. I don't want to even think about all the crimes that will take place because someone used crack and thought they could take on the world. Or how about father setting down after work and reading the paper and snorting a line then killing his kids and wife because he thought they were monsters.
Everyone that thinks it should be legal to have should be made to use it all. Make their families use it too. Then lets see what they think.
You have alot of people in this country that just want to make money. They don't care how it will affect thos around them or their country.
If they make any of it legal then they need to make it law that the owners of the farms and thier familes use it everyday.
It's illegal because DuPont and William Randolph Hearst wanted it that way. The hemp was a threat to big business, and besides, only blacks and Mexicans smoked it anyway. They killed several birds with one stone, and the American people - of all ethnicities - are STILL paying the price (surprise!).
I still believe a vast majority cannot control their drug use - it becomes a problem. I am not talking about marijuana (was told is harmless as Tea*). Once you need hourly hits to function - you have a problem.
The weed prohibition got started from the southwest states trying to keep mexicans from coming across the border in the 20's and 30's. They made it illegal slowly, but the first step was to issue a 'stamp' that you had to buy to possess it. The problem with it was you had to possess it to buy the stamp, but since you didn't have a stamp to possess it, you were in violation and charged with illegal possession. Look it up. Also, to maria above, I guess the people who drink several cups of coffee daily to 'function' also have a problem? Once again it comes down to personal responsibility. Something that is becoming an extinct philosophy in this country.
i have to agree with angie.....dupont was a huge reason behind the prohibition of hemp/canibis. hemp was a major competetor to the paper business...dupont pushed a product that rampaged forests and used enviromentaly harmfull chemicals. hemp farms are renewable and the paper has hardly any harmfull byproducts from production. dupont was in it for the money
"o" will not do anything to curtail the immigration of Mexicans infact he will try to maje it as easy as pie for them to become US citizens thus ensure more votes.........
And Kevin 383769......although I supported Bush with most of his agenda I did not support his immigration policy which by the way was the one area where he went along with the Democrats...why on earth do you think Bush pissed off the conserative right in this area..He was trying to reach across the isle and it was the wrong thing to do....The Dems are the ones that want to cater to these people.....thats how they get thier votes after all....
Legalize marijuana and use that money to pay for National Guard soldiers to lend a hand to BP and Customs. In other words militarize the border instead of that Merida crap that is NOT going to work. Mexico has militarized it why the hell cant we? And also why the hell does the US "always" tries to solve everything by throwing money at it? Someone please give me an answer.
This is not a NEW problem as the title of the article would suggest. It has been an ongoing problem, one that was ignored by Bush and will be ignored by Obama. For whatever reason, no one wants to pi$$ off the Mexican government. We give them billions of dollars, take care of their people illegally in the US and they always want to threaten us if we don't do exactly what they want. They get treated better than Americans do and it's sad.
When are WE going to wake up and take our country back, from both illegals AND the government that caters to them?
And you can place a lot of the blame on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce - they want the illegals here to do the work for a lot less pay than the big businesses would have to pay Americans and in less safe work environments, too.
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Its going to get ALOT worse. 30,000 illegal immigrants in California prisons alone. Last week California states if an inmate is released from a state prison and they re-offend which 80% do they will go to a federal prison. Feds say no room and staff to deal with it most will just be released. Most are directly related to drug cartel. And TOR most of these drugs are herion and Meth. Not MJ. Herion still being the choice drug.
Our head of Homeland Security hails from Arizona which has the largest kidnapping problem out side of Mexico city. What does she talk about when she speaks before Congress.....hurricanes. Does anyone have any hint of a clue what is happening??
Arizona is the kidnapping capital of the country because Obama's head of Homeland Security Janet Reno used to be the Governer here. It's no suprise to me that she is talking hurricanes while this mess is going on. She has always been an open border advocate.
Chapman - you are wong about Janet Reno. She isn't a former governor and she isn't on the current cabinet. I heard Arizona was 49th in education, but common.
Janet Reno was the Attny General in Miami, Florida. At the time Miami had the highest crime rate, so pres made her Drug Czar. That never made sense to me.
It seems like highest crime rate = worst enforcement.
Why send apprehended illegal Mexican back where they are nice and warm and cozy. They like WARM. Let's make a deal to send them to the outer reaches of Alaska -- some nice COLD tundra area maybe where they can live in tents with only a few days fuel for their campfires. As soon as word gets back, fear will set in. Talk about a deterrent? Wow!
A few years ago I read that over 90% of the homicides in L.A. County could be attributed to illegal aliens and I asked myself then when will somebody wake up and realize that this is an INVASION? Well, I guess the fact that they are now going to send troops to the border means that SOMEBODY gets it now.
12 to 30 million illegals later! Aren`t he the bright bulb?
Close the border! Just close the border. Let the peace-loving people of Mexico figure it out for themselves....
Post a bounty on illegals, $2000 for a pair of feet, talk about a stimulus plan. The private sector would clear up this mess in a hurry. Think of the jobs this would create.
Radio host Glenn Beck has been commenting on this mess at the border for years. about time we take some action and get the wall built.
The "War on Drugs" is a war against humanity. Most of those in prison are not the dealers but fellow citizens, neighbors, brothers, sisters, moms and dads. This war cannot be won! It is insane! We have created a monster. The "War" kills hundreds more than the drugs ever could. It is creating criminals of people that are not criminals, no more so than all those sitting in the bars all around our nation drinking poison!
The only way to end this insanity is to legalize drugs, control them, and get them out of the hands of the bad guys, which sadly currently includes are own pharmaceutical industry.
"Illegal drugs" finance terrorists, promote corruption within Governments, kill innocent people, destroy ecosystems, create havoc at our borders, fuel gang violence on our streets, create criminals, cost taxpayers billions of dollars, promote social disharmony, and allow anyone to be a dealer, including your own kids.
The lack of education our society has on this issue is insipid. We act as if the only way we know how to deal with problems is to declare war on them!
What Would Jesus Do? This nation and current generation are as ungodly and antichristian as has ever walked upon this earth, but yet supposedly "In God We Trust." Which god? Did he speak the Word "Kaneh bosm?"
The problem we have is that no one knows what "Christ" is.
"Christ is Anointed" and there are 250 shekels of cannabis in the Holy Oil God instructed Moses to make in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament, Exodus 30:23, to anoint all Priests, Kings, and Prophets, for all generations to come, including that of Jesus and even today! The Greeks mistranslated the Word "kaneh bosm" as calamus. "Kaneh" is also listed as an incense tree in Song of Songs 4:14. The mistake was repeated in Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, and Ezekiel 27:19.
Kaneh bosm! Christ used Cannabis, the Tree of Life, to heal the body and soul!
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It is an invasion that we won't win. As long as American Citizens buy drugs, we send the message..." Welcome to America - We support terrorism." The people that buy this crap should be deported as well.
Steve - Daytona Beach, FL.
Somebody does get it as do most Americans,but try and convince Pelosi and Reid, and Obama if they close the border thats an entire voting demographic that could be turned away. Why do you think the kid gloves and giveaway programs for the ilegals,they are the future voters for the Democratic left that they hope can keep them in power forever. It doesn't matter the viloence that is spread or how many civilians and law enforcement willbe killed or how many states will be bankrupt all that matters is they will have a huge voting bloc to keep them in power. It will never be America first with these people pulling the strings and with George Soros and his bottomless well of cash they will never run out of money. This country is doomed unless a radical change takes place soon.
Hey idiot. This article is about drug cartels, not illegals aliens.
Drug Cartels are commerce. Get smarter.
Yea... these idiots don't get the difference between drug cartels and illegals. The drug cartels have nothing to do with illegal immigration.
In any event, the drug cartels should be warned.. in Texas, unlike the poor Mexicans, we are armed and we will shoot back.
While I agree about building the wall, if the day has come where we listen to anything that moron Glenn Beck has to say, all is lost anyway...
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Texas has one big advantage that Mexico doesn't - the death penalty. In Mexico, drug murderers put in prison live pretty well with the corruption prevalent there. They might be much more restrained in Texas. Not so much a problem in California, which technically still has the death penalty, but virtually never uses it. With over 650 on death row, California has only execured 13 prisoners in 32 years. They die of old age first.
Interestingly, though, prisoners typically live longer than the general outside population, because they have nutritional meals and regular exercise, and no worries about making a living - the State provides everything free of charge.
The least expensive option is to turn these border states into glass.
BESMART
As an ex-cop, who worked undercover dope investigations, drug cartels and illegals are one in the same. They are illegal. What do you think they do, rise to the sound of the alarm clock, make coffee, breakfast, a quick shower and it's off to the office. They are illegal and they are involved in illegal activity, like the sale of Drugs.
BESMART you are the idiot!
26% of our Prisons are filled with illegal aliens. Many of which are very very violent drug dealers which are part of a Drug Cartel.
Before you speak or blog, you need to speak with someone in the trenches so you can get your facts right.
Captain above is 100% correct.............this could have been stopped long ago before it was a problem. beck and savage have talked alot about this. put regular or guard units on the border....build the damn fence. everyone worried about the terroist coming......well hundred and thousands potentials are crossing everyday with the government blessing......if this is going to stop.....citizens are going to have to be part of the solution.....
Mr. Rogers,
We may have guns, but unfortunately theirs are semi/automatic. :( I watched "Gangland" on the History channel all day yesterday and the constant message was the ability of the gang members to enter/exit the US easily to transport drugs and committ terrible acts of violence. I agree that we need to start policing the borders much better than we have been doing or it will only get worse. The sheer b@lls of these people to send out flyers with the threats should shed some light on the type of "people" we will be dealing with. And you thought the weapons of mass destruction that they had in the middle east were scary. These guys are much closer to home.
Close our southern border already!!!! If these are narcoterrorists, then pull the purse strings closed by stopping their drug trades and bringing it into the US. With the border closed weapons cannot make it into Mexico, and the cartels employees stuck in the US would hopefully be sniffed out without hte ability to get back into Mexico, no denaro or drugs to sell - what can they do here?
Working w/ Calderone is not and has not been working b/c he's in bed w/ the cartels. They'd have his head if he wasn't .
If someone "in the trenches" has all the answers, why does the problem still exist?
Remember that when some one tries to fool with your right to protect yourself. Well reguleated militia. Means well armed and instructed.
SILLY people.....get your head on straight. US is the biggest market for drugs. Multi billion dollar market. If we are craving and paying for this poison someone will will sell it to us. Blaming everyone else that is so typical of our arrogance. We spend billions in Columbia fighting the cartel, we pay to destroy poppy fields in Afghanistan and now Mexico. Why are we not working on killing the demand instead of going all over the world policing others? Simple solution would be to legalize and tax it but we rather burn billions on yet another stupid war we can ill afford.
whenever i see illegals moving close, i notice the gang grafitti starts - i don't care if that sounds whatever, that is my observation - there is no good from them coming here - stay out of my neighborhood, don't move close to me - all they do is bring property values down and bring gangs. those gangs and illegals need to be dealt with by the law. and fast
DG_W
I was referring to those police Officers on the Streets, the Jail Guards watching over the Prisoners. Unfortunately, it is our Crooked Politicians who need to make things happen.
Those in the trenches are as frustrated as you and I. I did 15 years as a Police Office - had enough! I was fortunate to utilize tuition reimbursement to acquire a Masters Degree to get out of the rat race.
Our Politicians have absolutely no idea how to manage our tax dollars and when one looks at the Policies of both parties, one often wonders if their agenda even has the American People's best interest in mind. I truly believe they don't.
We truly need the American People to take back Government!
Great, Mexico's become the "New Somalia".
The solution is not difficult. It's just that the pro-illegal alien do-gooders are blocking the appropriate action. We need to take a page from the Chinese: Arrest anyone associated with the drug traffic, i.e., users and pushers. Jail the users and dry them out. If any return to illegal drugs in any way, execute them. Execute all pushers that have been arrested.
Then, arrest all Muslims and illegal aliens. Pass a federal law declaring the Muslim religion a threat to our national security. We did this to the Communists after World war II and it worked. Deport all of them, with a warning that if they return to the United States, they'll be executed.
It is an invasion that started when the first European set foot on the American Continent.
conservative666: Bush is proof enough you guys belong in a padded cell. Problem lies WINTHIN United States......can you spell DEMAND? Your moronic hero paid plenty to get his share of pills. Just say NO....war on drugs....moronic solutions. You cant' kill the demand so make it a taxable enterprise.
You rather bomb every country then just stop Junior from getting his fix!!
The first people on the american continent were europeans. not "indians". There is evidense of this fact. the Mongolians came later.
Mr Rogers
Are you suggesting that the small groups of Cartel in each city in America are LEGAL CITIZENS?
If we deport all the Illegals, I'll bet we will have deported 95% of the Cartel groups in America.
The other 5% will have to be voted out of office. (congress, senate goveners etc. etc.)
I for one am sick and tired of foreigners profiting off the backs of our children. As parents we try real hard to keep them from drugs. Children do not have what it takes to fight the neighbor hood drug dealers so lets close our borders take back our country and save our children.
Uh...BeSmart (why don't you?) -- I'm not in the habit of stating the obvious, so I didn't see the need to explain my connecting illegals to this article, but for YOU I'll try. By now I thought that everyone in the U.S. was aware that the great spike in murders in California (L.A. & surrounding areas in particular) was due almost entirely to the illicit drug trade. And by extension, if over 90% of the murders can be attributed to illegal aliens, then... Come on, boy, you can do it...THINK...are you folllowing me now? Am I going too fast? I can't make it any simpler. If anyone else can break this down to an even more basic line of reasoning explain it to him/her.
I see a lot of posts bashing the Mexicans. The problem is with the US. People in this country like to get high. Some of you are probably drunk, with a cigarette popping prescriptions pills typing post and passing judgment. Give me a break. It is called suppy and demand. The demand is in the US. The USA is the only hipocritical country that does not know how to deal with this proble. Legalize, tax, erase the debt and give the american people a refund.
jbird - They might 'get it', but will they be able to use the guns they carry? You remember what happened last time our border patrol guys used deadly force against a major drug runner....they got arrested and put in jail.
Maybe we now have a sane and intelligent President who will get his hind legs up and do something about this growing crime problem.
Imagine this....a lot of us have been saying all along, BUILD THE FENCE. Beef up the Border agents. Shoot and ask questions later. Oops better not do that one. Like Ramos and Campean there will be time spent in the cooler!
I agree with all the comments regarding border patrol.... Obama wants to create jobs, Well, theres CLEARLY a need here, so lets see if he has the balls to address this issue. Oh, and when the "superhighway" is running full force, there's gonna be a whole lot more drugs/illegals to deal with!
Rightman - please show facts on Europeans being here first??? They have evidence of Asian in the Americas from 14,000 years ago. Possibly longer - 28,000 years ago. I have never seen anything on Europeans here that long ago. Could you please provide a site? I'm interested.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned legalization of drugs, it would solve the problem of violence. Drug sales can also be taxed and thus provide a revenue stream. Also the level of drug addicts wont rise dramatically, at most a couple %. United states has the largest prison population in the world and the majority of the people incarcirated are there because of drug offenses. By legalizing drugs billions of dollars would be saved each year and crime will also go down dramatically. The war on drugs has failed for the past 40 plus years, it simply doesnt work when will people realize this.
My solutions,
Stricter penalties for users in the states. Put pressure on santuary cities such as LA to do away with policies such as special order 40. Put troops on border and fortify the border fence as much as possible. Crack down more on employers in US that employ illegals. They need to be threatened with heavier financial penalties and prison time. Stop US banks from allowing illegals to have bank accounts. Stop illegals from being able to get mortgages. Prohibit states from giving benefits to illegals such as driver's licenses.
Thanks jbdaad - I believe that they were the Clovis people and I have seen Nat. Geo. shows that say they could be older than 14,000 years.
After the last election, it would seem the American people made their feelings known. I think the people will have more influence on this government than the last, which was referred to as a "dictatorship" by many:
http://harpers.org/archive/2009/03/hbc-90004488
http://brucemulkey.com/2009/03/05/george-w-bush-the-first-american-dictator/
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2255.shtml
http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001249.htm
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_dictatorship
So it would seem that the American people have made their choice, and they are willing to give President Obama plenty of slack considering that the current economic mess is not his fault (even though the Republicans are blaming him for everything they can!). Judging by his high approval ratings, it would seem that the people believe they have taken back their government...and this method is far, far better than Sean Hannity's lame-brained idea of an armed revolution...
as always... a day late and a dollar short. For such an intelligent nation, why do our elected leaders not nip it in the bud?! Anyone with half a brain could see that the influx of "ILLEGAL" immigration would be a problem on many levels. Drug smuggling has been a well known problem for 25+ years. And in that time Mexico and the US allowed the cartel to become very powerfull - because they could. Again, we have an out of control issue that is going to result in loss of life and mega dollars in an attempt to get some control over.
Why, at the least, after 9/11 did we not close the borders?
Why did we not take illegal immigration more seriously at the onset when we knew they were sneaking into the US AND WORKing here illegally?
I am all for LEGAL immigration. My ancestors and to go through the proper channels, they were also told they would be deported if they became a burden on American society. There was no 'political correctness' BS.
I love our country, but I shake my head daily at what goes on here. How the elite criminals are treated differently from the middle class. How our politicians close their eyes to taking care of Americans first and how the rise in greed has taken over good character. I would really like to hear our state senator John McCain's and former Governor Janet Napolitano's explaination for why the growing border issues were ALLOWED to grow into what it has become. First we in Phoenix were #1 in auto theft and now we're the #1 city for kidnapping.
I think the US of A is in big trouble. We are finally hitting rock bottom. Maybe Barack Obama & administration will help bring back some decency and character to us proud Americans.
wasnt the democrats in control of the congress the last couple of years bush was in office? and who started exporting our companys across the borders? and when they attacked the world trade center the first time who was in office and did nothing? My point is everyones pointing at bush and they should all be grown up and say we did this to our selves, bush warned about freddie and mae in his first 4, but didnt follow through and clinton relaxed the controls over banking. oh yea build the fences not just for drugs but doyou think that a terorst can just walk/swim across also< srry almost went on a rant remeber obama didnt when every state, just the ones that count!!!
DG_W,
Gee man. You must be right up odumbos pant leg. You sir, from what I have seen of your other posts, are totally bilnded to the truth as most far far left dems/libs are. Then again, you are probably happy that odumbo and dumb azz pelosi are running the country. Free money for jooo right?
Please post something intelligent.
I'm Really amazed that MSNBC got out and found something! Obama must be hidding some place,and they can't figure out what to write about!
Maddow will probably Twist this Story and Blame Bush............what useless Idiots this Network has !
"Close the border! Just close the border. Let the peace-loving people of Mexico figure it out for themselves.... "
Close the border? Do you think this is the right solution? Enhance the border and weed out the drug business and the corruption within the border itself. But you cannot close a border just becuase there are problems. How about the trade and industries that are passing vice versa? Do you think it is only Mexico needs the border? U.S. needs that borders too for business and economic reason.
Police the border efficiently but not close it! Think positively my friend don't just jump on your emotion. I am a Chef and we are relying on Tuna fish supply in Mexico. this is only one example. if you close the border we have to import Tuna in Japan. Would you like that? How much will be the Tuna fish products? Do you think the prices will shrink? I am only talking about the Tuna fish. Imagine what are other products that this country needed most on our daily lives that passes that border. And, you wanted it to be close?
US troops on the border NOW....shut it down NOW.....repatriate NOW
Why do you say that...because I listed five sources to back my claim? How do you back up your simpleton name calling? You want something intelligent...and by the way, true? How's this:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116224/Obama-Approval-Rating-Increases.aspx
Obama's approval rating has risen to 67%. Even if it drops by 10% right now, he's still over 60%, which is quite good given the current economic climate. His approval rating is even up amongst your Republican buddies:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/02/27/gallup-obama-approval-rating-way-up-among-republicans/
And guess what? The Congressional rating -- a Congress dominated by Democrats, mind you -- is up too!
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_02/016927.php
But alas, approval for Republicans in Congress is down:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0209/Congressional_Dem_approval_more_than_doubles.html
That's at about the approval rating for George W. Bush in his last couple of years.
So now that I've posted more facts, which incidentally don't say much about where you stand...start with the juvenile name calling again. Truth hurts, don't it? And since I agree with the majority on this one...how do you determine who is "totally bilnded (sic) to the truth"? My version of the truth has more weight behind it...where does yours come from, Rush Limbaugh? What a joke...
An invasion???? wtf???? learn history before saying those stupid things!!!
Haha me dan risa!!!
DG_W, are you happy with pelosi? Do you like her?
Here's the proof...
In Mexico's drug wars, fears of a U.S. front
http://world-news.newsvine.com/_news/2009/03/09/2522373-in-mexicos-drug-wars-fears-of-a-us-front#c5844434
FEMA ,at this time ,is relocating their "Clergy emergency response team" members. I know of two personally that are being relocated to Texas.
Rumors of Texas Seceding from the Union. Mexican Federal Military in Juarez. Talk of US Military assistance/intervention.Mexico labeled Narco Terrorist State. The proof is above and below.
Arrest those that would/will /have subvert(ed) the rights of the US citizen through the declaration/implementation of Martial Law without Congressional Oversight by the suspension of the Constitution of the Republic of the USA.This is a coup d'etat people.
Mind wars: "X-Files" gets it right,11 years later.
I have no problem with her. She is trying to advance the Democratic agenda. I understand, though, that Republicans -- of which you are most likely one -- don't care for her, just like Democrats didn't think too highly of Republicans who have held the same or similar positions. Go into a room full of Democrats and say names like Dennis Hastert, former majority whip Tom Delay, or worst of all, Newt Gingrich, and see what reaction you get.
Yes, we knew these things YEARS ago, and no one cared. Now that it's escalated into major wars, they care. No one also cared about Mexicans - undocumented and illegals coming into our country, not paying taxes, reaping benefits from MY tax dollars either ... NOW people 'seem' to care.
Deport them all! Close the borders! and especially keep those pregnant women in Mexico so that we don't have to support them!
Dear Alex Johnson,
I’m a concerned citizen who has a problem with the Mexican and American government not cooperating enough to decrease the amount of violence south of our border. In the past fourteen months 8,000 people have been murdered as a result of an escalating drug war between three powerful Mexican drug cartels. 90% of weapons comes from the United and are fueling this war. So far there has been little on the United States part to stop the blood shed on the border that is spilling into American soil. 230 cities in the United States are known to be operated by Mexican drug cartels with 90% of cocaine and most of the marijuana coming from them. American government only helped with 1.4 million dollars to help train and equip the law enforcements of Mexico and sent 1,400 American soldiers to protect our border. In Arizona alone there have been two hundred kidnaps or hostages taken and in august there have been 5 murders in a city of Alabama all linked to Mexican Cartels. This information should turn on light bulbs to officials of Homeland security that this is a threat to the United States.
Our government should stop the flow of weapons into Mexico by regulating a firearm laws on the bordering states. We also need more troops to the boarder on both sides to help decrease the carnage. Mexico needs more funding and resources from the U.S. to counter-act the narcotterrorist. This is our problem too and we should take some precautions before we end up in the middle of the war zone.
Sincerely,
Miguel Zepeda
Umm...Solution: Legalize, grow and produce all of the drugs Americans most prefer...right here in the USofA.. Government controlled and taxed.... Let's see...how many ways can I count the benefits of this. It would not only solve the current situation, it would decrease our prison populations, decrease violent crimes, increase tax revenue to the point that we could send billions more to NY. Let's face it, half of our population has tried or smokes marijuana occasionally..some more than they should.. Unlike alcohol, marijuana doesn't tend to make our population violent. The only drugs that should be illegal are those that violence is a consequence..which currently are all of them...because they're illegal. Employers will continue to have the right to drug test employees as they wish.. Why is everyone so worried about legalizing drugs in a controlled manner? It just seems to me that making them illegal creates more of a problem..than it solves. If marijuana or ecstacy remains illegal...then so be it...make alcohol illegal as well because it's just down right hypocritical to legalize one over the other. Gosh!... The tax potential.. Imagine, we could fund our schools directly from the newly collected taxes and subsequently educate kids properly about the good and the bad surrounding drugs...and the consequences of their choices to use or to not use.. At least they won't be shot innocently during a drug war... Do you really think this would encourage drug use? I think not..drugs are already readily available...thanks to the Mexican mafia.. Great entrepreneurs! Only wish our government could be so creative!
Nah.. bad idea eh? Let's just keep everyone scared and let the killing continue..
I agree with you. Those who do not choose to partake in drug use will not be enlightened to do so simply because it has been legalized. Alcohol is just as dangerous and it is considered legal to use and abuse.
If we legalize, tax it and control it everyone enjoys the revenue..
Although, these scum bags will always find something to extort.
The illegal mexicans are destroying many areas. I know they have changed the face of Palm Beach florida completely. Rise in gang violence, drug trafficking, murders etc. I am not saying all of them are bad but unfortunately the majority are.
Many illegal aliens lie and cheat from birth to survive in their country and unfortunately bring those same behaviors to America.
It would sure balance the budget fast!
This makes complete sense. I agree 100%. When is the last time you saw a shoot out over the distribution of alcohol. Never, not since prohibition. If the government legalized it, the trouble makers would be out of buisness or could import it legally. I think the govern ment fears people growing their own marijuana making a profit and getting out of debt. The drug war is not working. The CIA just wants to maintain their monopoly on the drug trade. The more people this government locks up means that the USA will have cheep labor.
I agree with the utmost enthusiasm.I believe that prohibition on marijauna started this mess.We should decriminalize it,then the profit for smugglers would decrease to the point where there is no profit in doing it anymore.Grow your own,America!!
This country could legalize the weed but its heroin, meth, cocaine that brings in the hugh bucks. If you legalize those the kids of this country will become dope addicts because they have to prove they can do what they want when they want. It's the same about alchohol, the kids can't wait to go out and drink themselves into a stupor because it shows they are macho.
Both borders need to be patroled by the military of both countries, no one in no one out. All ships large or small to be searched along with airlines. Any small plane flying flying in from Mexico to be shot down without warning since the cartels will know that would happen. You cut off the routes of drug smuggling their money will dry up and so will they.
This is a bigger menace to this country than terrorism from the middle east. If our military is going to fight it should be done here and not in someone elses.
Are you honestly proposing we legalize cocaine and heroin? Come on.
Why not? No worse than some of the ads I see on TV where side affects can cause suicidal tndencies in everyone taking them. Only difference is that one is made by Big Pharma and the other by south american labs. Oh yeah and the dose price.... Leagalized doesn't mean selling it on a stand at the flea market or that just anyone can get it. It just means you don't get jailed just for having it on you.
I think we should round up all the dope addicts and throw THEM out, no matter what their ethnicity. See how many snotty white punk teenagers are left in the suburbs then. If there wasn't demand, this wouldn't be happening. They came here because we have a plentiful supply of money and a plentiful supply of lazy idiots with nothing better to do all day then spend Daddy's money shooting up or snorting up or whatever. So before you go on with your America the Great, Cowboy, Maverick horsepoop stop and think a moment, please.
Also if you think The Wall was so great then you never knew a family that got split between East and West Germany. I have. Heartbreaking.
Even getting rid of the possession law would help. Make it legal to grow and own. Make it legal to sell only with a license (like alcohol.) If more people were properly educated on cannabis, there would be much less opposition.
I can see it now. Many already have stopped the use of cigarettes in public places. Should the use of wacky backy become law how soon will laws be passed to prohibit smoking weed in public places? Oh, I forgot, the libs are against cigs but they love the mary jane. I guess that would be exempt.
Sorry but it want decrease crime they still cant afford them since they cant work while on drugs , so they will still have to rob, burgle , kill , steal well you get the message.
2 deleted, 'kill all Mexicans' rhetoric from Stephen Smith-768860. Like clockwork.
kill all the crackers!
1.4 Billion to Mexico for training and equipment? You have got to be kidding me!. First put up the wall between the US and this hellhole Mexico with very limited access ports. Pay for the materials and the Army guys can put it up lickety split.Stop the illegals and the drugs at the source. Next take a couple of Appache helicopters and go to town on the cartels. They know who they are and where they are and just wipe out the problem. Empty our jails of illegals (which accounts for about 25% of the incarcerated and dump them over the wall back into their own country. Round up the illegals who work here like they did last week and dump them over the wall. Keep it up until we are free of this cancer. Man, when is enough enough!
Yea, round up ALL ILLEGALS, and send them back with NO return ticket unless they become legalized citizens!
Yea, build a wall to keep ALL in their own country! I say let's throw Queen porker Pelosi over the wall with them, and kill two birds with one stone!
I like this thinking!! You have my vote. Every point you've stated has a reason and clear objective. We won't need to print two and three langauges on an instruction sheet anymore. Speak English please. Thank You!! I have to keep telling my neighbors this when i tell them to turn down the music. Very loud people!! And they move out in the middle of the night and leave the place a mess. Seen that way to many times. Send them all home to there communities.
I can see all of the trailer trash is in the house tonight.OMG, bunch of racist bigots! Innocent people are dying because of Americas love of drugs. American parents do drugs and they let their kids get high with them too. Good'ol american tradition. This is the reason why Mexico is in shambles now. Americans, you have blood on your hands once again..... STOP DOING DRUGS!!! AND STOP KILLING YOUR CHILDREN. AND ONE MORE THING WHY DO ALL THE WHITE CHILD MOLESTERS LIVE IN FLORIDA OH YEA, BECAUSE MOST CHILD MOLESTERS ARE WHITE....
Right now I'm thinking.... And they want gun control. How are we to defend ourselves if they let Americans have single shot weapons and the "bad guys" have multiple shot weapons? Guns don't kill people, people kill people!!! If somebody wants to kill someone then they will with anything they have,may it be with a stone,spear or even their own hands,they will find a way. Americans!!!! stand up and defend yourselves, if you fear for you life then prepare for the worst. I think self defense is a no brainer and as soon as the justice and governmental system realizes this we will be on our way to a safer environment.
Before I moved to AZ I had a 30-30 for deer hunting (never shot a deer) - now I have a .38 and am well versed in its use. A friend asked me if I could actually shoot someone and I answered yes. Anyone breaking into my home would be met with lethal force. No - I am not a member of the NRA - I am a 72 year old female who will protect myself and my property, even if I end up in jail for doing so.
Solution to the border problem: close the border completely. No traffic going or coming from either side. No illegals, drug runners coming from Mexico into our country and no money and arms going into Mexico from the U.S.
It can be done if we consider this an act of war against our country, and that is what it is. Put the National Guard with the Border Patrol and give them orders to shoot to kill anyone attempting to cross into or out of the U.S. or if they are attacked in any way.
The sooner we realize that this is an actual war, the sooner we will adopt measures to protect our own country and our own people.
Yeah...it's amazing. But watch for the spin by the White House, and the Dems to make this a gun control issue. They are already starting it. Instead of ptoecting our right to repel invaders, protect ourselves and our familes, from both outside forces and tyranical governmenst....they think guns are for deer hunting. The biggest bunch of dumbasses I have ever seen. Listen up folks...the 2nd Amendment was not created for sport shotting. It was, and IS, the Federal Governments right to protect your 2nd Amendment right...not reduce it. But they try to spin it like the drug cartels go down to the local stores and purcahse their fireams....sure they do.
The above, natch, is a paid commercial by the NRA (note the snazzy catch phrase about "guns not killing people".
THIS COUNTRY provides the vast majority of the illegal "multiple shot weapons" used by the Mexican cartels to kill Mexicans and Americans.
THIS COUNTRY consumes virtaully all of the drugs.
Since WE provide the guns and WE consume the drugs, WE are DIRECTLY responsible for this crisis and it is OUR responsibility to resolve it.
There are a lot of things that can be done. Don't patronize any mexican businesses. Stop electronic money transfers to mexico, vote out the politicians who want to give Amnesty to these Illegals. The "path to citizenship" that Obama and Biden want should tell you that they do not have the american interests at heart. Get Armed and Get Organized against these people in your neighborhoods. They come here and sell drugs and send the money back to mexico and when they get hurt they just go to the ER and you pay for it. Stop renting houses for them to live in while they sell drugs. Confiscate the houses that they do rent or buy. Revoke the citizenships of the "anchor babies" . They get food stamps and welfare while you pay for it. If the government won't do it, we have to.( and if you have to shoot aim for the head, we need donors ).
I agree with you there, they don't buy 'em in stores. They kill dumbsh*ts like you and take them from your cold dead fingers.
Craig...MY mulitple shot weapons are NOT illegal. See the second ammendment. As for your brainwashedness, you should seek help. Once you give up the second ammendment, all the rest will follow. just a historical fact that you overlooked.
Revoke citizenship?! Are you freaking kidding me?? What kind of a country do you want to live in?
I would entertain the idea of closing the 'anchor baby' loophole for future cases, but applying a law like that retroactively is simply wrong. Facist, even. There are other ways of dealing with the problem. Besides, most children of illegals I ever knew in school grew up to be contributing members of society. I question whether you are more motivated by true concern for what's best for the country or plain old racism.
If the citizenship is Illgotten gains, it should be revoked. Illegally born here is still Illegal. If your parents came here illegally, you are a citizen of the country where they came from. Citizenships are revoked every year. where have you been? Now patriotic americans are facists?
Chuck,
Don;t know why you are so mad at me. Apparently no one ever bothered to explain the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment to you. If you don;t want to exercise your right...that's perfectly fine. You be a victim if you want, I will protect myself and my family.
Chuck,
Just saw you called me a dumbs---t. Boy, you are lucky there are dumbsh....ts like me protecting your right to say such a thing...but I won't get into that. I tell you what though....read the Constitution, the Declaraton of Independence, some writings by Jefferson, Patrick Henry....and when you a little something get back to me and we can discuss further.
I know this is about illegals and all, BUT I just went down to get my concealed permit and found out from them that there is a bill in the House HR 45, that is a gun control bill that will seriously impede your right to carry a gun. Did you know, that among other things, this bill will have a stipulation that the government can actually force you to undergo a psychiatric evaluation? Yeah, pretty stupid.
If the government is not going to protect us, we must defend ourselves, and they are trying to strip away that right! Call your Representative today. And fire a email off to that nut Pelosi who is just about to ruin the country with her Socialist agenda!
That, friend is the POINT behind gun control. The Mexicans AND our government want us disarmed. So we can't protect ourselves our loved ones from the bad guys. The nut cases like that kid shooting the pastor. . . are a tiny fraction of a percent of gun owners. Not even one percent of legitimate gun owners go "bad." The media feasts on this because the liberal lunatics WANT and clamor for total disarmament of American citizens. Disarmament generally being the first requirement of any dictatorship, a historically proven reality!
All that money sent to Mexico ended up in the hands of the drug lords to use to arm themselves against the government. The Mexican goverment is just about as corrupt as the USAs.
Can't get rid of them Dumbocrats need the votes.
Yep, the dems need the votes and the repubs need the cheap labor. Guess the illegals are here to stay.
Maybe we can refer to them as Obamacrats.
I have to agree with one of the comments above when it comes to legalizing some of our popular drugs in the US. I do not think we should flat out legalize all drugs, some just have way to harmful of side effects and crimes related to their addiction. But things like marijuana? Common that's ridiculous, the only people that get killed from that drug are people that get caught up in the trade, not the use. People do not over dose from marijuana, never been a recorded case of it, ever.
Taking the growth, production, distribution, and sale of a few of these drugs out of the cartels hands, is the only real means of ending their power grip. Because the need/desire for these drugs is not going to just go away, as long as their is a need someone will find a way to supply it. Making it illegal only makes that supply and demand become violent and uncontrolled.
Taking all that into consideration, we could put more people to work growth, producing, and distributing ourselves. Then add a whole new flow of revenue for our country by selling it ourselves, not even counting the billions we would save not attempting to catch, arrest, and imprison the local pot dealer, and use a portion of that money to combat the REAL drugs that are a threat to us.
People can argue that smoking pot/hash can cause long term lung issues, which is true, but so does smoking cigarette, and living in major cities merely breathing the air. Pick your battle wisely, you cant control everything.
The only REAL danger in making drugs like weed legal is the rise in Taco Bell and Doritos stock.................
But legalizing drugs is only a small portion of the solution, we MUST close our southern border NOW!! If we keep tip-toeing around the issue it will be to late to do anything, and we will without doubt fall into financial ruin in the US.
No easy answer here. To, say, halt all trade relations with Mexico in general is just hair-brained. The Mexican GOVERNMENT was influenced by an influx on $$$ from the U.S. to engage the drug cartel and attempt to eradicate them. . hair-brained to begin with. Legalizing drugs? Won't happen in this society that cannot see the stupidity of legalizing "alcohol" and then pulling out the morality card when it comes to legalizing certain street drugs. . .WHATEVER! Closing the border isn't as simple as it sounds because even when we DID attempt this the illegals scooted over the invisible wall of guards anyway!!! We would have to put up a wall so high and so thick and so long that it would take eons to complete it. . only to have it torn down in the future when shinny, happy people syndrome hits. Putting our military on the border will draw the Mexican cartel gangs into a full on war against the U.S., and will prompt even more internal violence between gangs within the border states, and, ultimately, result in the death of many innocent civilians here in the U.S. The only viable proposition is that we, the American public as a whole, discontinue doing business with drug dealers. No problem since we are the society representing the most developed, intellectual and morally responsible people in the world, right? Nope. . won't work. Demand drives supply and AmericanS' gotta get they's dope on! What a cluster screw! This situation is going to escalate, and it won't be a quick cap in the arse smack-down of the cartel either. They are incredibly wealthy, prolifically connected and armed to the hilt. I dare say the cartel gangs would give our exhausted and weary military one H E L L of a fight. Terrorism is alive and well today, and we can thank our own American citizens for contributing to the problem! I say ban all alcohol, tobacco, drugs, etc. Put up road blocks for breathalyzers and urine tests that can be analyzed on the spot. Anyone testing positive is sent to walk the plank immediately. Of course, we would still have the problem of LEGAL drug abuse. . .hmm. . .I'll have to think about that one for awhile. No wait! Send these money grubbing pharmaceutical companies to the plank as well! They've got so many people hopped up on anti-depressants, anti-manic downers, Lortab, Oxycontin and Vicodin that people are walking around higher than a heroin addict! Oh. . .wait. . .that won't work. . .we need Viagra REALLY bad since the male genitalia IS the most important body part known to mankind! Well, I quess I'll throw up my hands . . .just out of ideas, I 'spose. Oh well. . .
Heck wait long enough and they will all be over here and Mexico will be empty and if ya survive the onslaught here, be empty country to go start over ! (sarcasm)
Hey Obama take note, THE INCREASED PRESENCE OF MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS IN AMERICA IS SUPPORTED BY UNCHECKED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FROM MEXICO. GUARD OUR BORDERS AND SEND THE ILLEGALS BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY ! ! ! Part of your job is to protect America, not to sit and watch our borders being over run by Mexican Drug Cartels and Criminals. If you can't or won't protect our borders than citizens in those border areas will protect their homes and families themselves. Making drugs legal is about the most stupidest idea I have heard and usually comes from those that stand to make profits from the legalization. Making it legal would only increase the violence and death caused by the Mexican Cartels.
Hey Joe,
Obama is a narcissest...meaning that he only cares about himself and where he is going to be able to get votes...He does not care about this country it is so obvious in all his speeches and in his writtings...Obama is about Obama. One must not underestimate the manipulative genius of a pathological narcissist. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands...They cheerefully do his bidding...and Obama has np intention of doing any thing that does not add to his voter base...... ( examples of narcissists, Hitler, Stalin, Jim Jones,Davvid Koresh).America were screwed.......
stop the Obamanation....
Rush to 2012
Rush would make the system more efficient, he needs to get his Oxy from somewhere.
And how the hell do you leave him off the list of narcissists?
JoeB, how dumb can one bè? Bush had 8 years to do somehting against the Mexican drug cartell and now it is suddenly Obama`s problem. You don´t think...legalization of drugs would do what the legalization of alcohol did...it would create a legal and state controlled market. I don´t see many gang fighting about a bottle of rum, do you?
To: JoeB-460595
Right, blame Obama for a problem that has been growing for decades. You sound just like the model conservative that unquestioningly blames all that is bad on the fictional and so-called "liberals". Get some education and lay off the hate juice. Your black and white world has always been full of color and you refuse to see it.
As for being liberal: I own a bunch of weapons, some with high-capacity legal magazines. I have a concealed carry permit. I've never taken any illicit drugs. I'm for legalization of ALL drugs. I voted for McCain as senator, Obama as President. I know that Rush LimpPaw is an idiot. Does all that fit your idea of your fictional liberal?
And profit is bad because...?
Okay Obama. Time to step out of your fantasy world and step up to the plate. Take a wad of that pork out of your stimulus package and apply it to this immense invasion problem. Knock off your stupid little weekly town political meetings and your frequent Air Force One trips and get with the program of protecting America as a top priority. It is your job, do it now.
Obama ? where was Bush when this was going on ? PLEAAAAAAAAAAAASE !
Forget Bush, we are talking NOW. The problem is worsening and it is on Obamas watch. Any other questions?
Yeah this problem has really taken on a new set of legs in the past 2 months. Get real!!!! This has been a long term problem.
That's hilarious coming from the folks who blame Clinton for everything.
Obama* has the job now, ! can he do it? odds are that he will fail just as Bill Clinton repeatedly failed to get Osama Bin Ladin. The government won't put this on a national Referendum because they make a lot of money from Marijuana alone and they can confiscate the property of people like you. it is time to put the government on notice that we want it, and if you don't let us have it you will be retired from office. Like prohibition.
Krock ... you are so right. This problem didn't start on January 21, 2009. I'm a Republican, but I think that blaming every problem on a man who has been in office for less than 50 days is just being vindictive. Which problems did Bush solve in his first two months in office? Iran? North Korea? The Middle East? Healthcare? The Taliban?
I'm willing to give Obama some time. And, unlike the de-facto head of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh, I hope that he succeeds. Because, heaven help us all if he fails ....
Scrooge, Quit bashing Obama. The Bush's had how many years to address this problem?
Obama has inherited a buttload of problems. I think we'd best give him more than a couple of months to figure them out! Sure hope he does, anyway.
Actually, Bush was working on trying to complete the fence in record time before Obama came in office. I forget how many miles, but alot of fence went up between Sept and January. I think he knew that this would become a back seat project once Obama got in. And everybody knew Obama would get in after the early October surprise. Stop the illegals!! Deport them ASAP.
Scrooge2:
Wow, the KKK has just changed names and taken to the news comment blogs. Please comment more frequently so we can experience the full extent of your voluminous illiteracy. People like you only have to write ten words and it exposes you so fully that it is like you disrobed in church. How can you not know the magnitude of your hate and misdirection?
I have some bad news for you folks. That fence that Bush was trying to build..Obama is Stopping.
See, why are we surprised? You are right again Rightman.
This comes from GlobalSecurity.org
This makes the wall useless.
Tunnel passages across an international border into the United States have become a real problem. There are 40 such tunnels that have been discovered since 9/11, and the great bulk of them are on the southern border. Large-scale smuggling of drugs, weapons, and immigrants takes place today through these tunnels. One tunnel running from San Diego to Tijuana was marked by inordinate sophistication. It was a half mile long. It went 60 to 80 feet deep, 8 feet tall. It had a concrete floor. It was wired for electricity. It had drainage. At one end, 300 pounds of marijuana were found, and at the other end, 300 pounds of marijuana. What was interesting is that the California entry into the tunnel was a very modern warehouse, a huge warehouse compartmented but empty and kept empty for a year. In one office there was a hatch in the floor. It looked much like the hatch which Saddam had secreted himself in. But lifting that hatch disclosed a very sophisticated tunnel. It went under other buildings all the way across the double fence into Mexico and up in Mexico in a building as well.
JoeB-460585
I don't think you live in the real world with the rest of us on this legalization idea. Most of us don't want hardcore drugs to be legal, but we do see how retarded it is to waist literally billions attempting to prevent people from smoking a plant that grows every were. Pot is no more dangerous then alcohol and there for has no reason to be illegal.
I have absolutely nothing to gain from it being legal, I work in an office and my pot smoking years ended at least 10 years ago. But I do see it as being a costly, pointless fight over something that really is not as bad as the government attempts to make it.
As far as increasing the cartels violence by making it legal, where is your logic in that? If we can make it ourselves and sell it at a cheaper rate, we have eliminated the need for the cartel. Same way abolishing Prohibition has almost totally gotten rid of moonshiners. You may have short term increase in violence due to the cartels not wanting to loose there money in all this. But if you control the market they will run out of money to fight you in short work. Takes money to buy bullets, we take that money they can not shoot at you can they?
Part of the point of this is, it is about time the Government stops attempting to tell everyone what they should and should not be able to do becuase they believe its in moral. If its dangerous the public around you then fine, but weed is not. Smoking pot does not make people go on murder rampages, it does not make people go rob others, and it does not turn people into prostitutes to supply their habit. Pot makes people laugh, sleep, eat junk food, and horny....Nothing more, nothing less.
It's not just the Pot (which I believe to have Medical Indications for some disorders and diseases) that the Cartels deal in - they do Meth, Cocaine, Heroine, and let us not forget gold ol' Madame "X" (Ecstasy ). Think our Health Care is stretched now, we would have to havea Rehab. Center on every corner. Think of all the money to be made, and not jus the Pot distributors. Having the Gov. support the market, well since when has the Gov. under any Administration managed anything close to well. Thanks for the input Michigan, I enjoy the change of ideas. The more ideas, the higher the possibility of a workable solution.
I agree with you partially. I totally agree that such things as heroine, cocaine, and X should remain illegal and that yes the cartels deal in this. But statistically the drugs most sold and distributed in the US is weed. All im saying is pick your battles carefully, somethings are pointless in fighting, such as a pot smoking. Take all the extra money from that and fight the real drugs of issues such as thous you mentioned.
Putting Marijuana in the same catagory as Heroin is just plain stupid.
hey michigan , pot IS ky first number one cash crop . already
Legalizing pot simply leaves more and harder drugs for them to make money on. And if we do legalize it and the problem gets worse or even brings in a whole new set of problems, what then, say oops we tried. What we've got is a group of people unwilling or incapable of showing personal responsibility and to justify their actions are saying it's the governments fault and just give up and let us do our thing. It's always someone else's fault. Users, fine the hell out of them, not these nickle and dime token fines. Dealers, very harsh prison sentences. Violent gangs and cartels, destroy them, brutally if necessary, but completely. And if it takes the armed forces or national guard, then so be it. Whether they are in Iraq or Arizona, they have to be paid, and the border states are much better liberty areas than Iraq during their off duty times, not to mention the boost to the economy. We have at this point in time, more people in this country involved in this invasion with the intent of destroying or dictating our way of life than Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, North Korea, North Vietnam,Iraq, and Afghanistan combined were ever able to accomplish. If the government can't or won't deal with this problem, properly and soon, then maybe the time has come for the people themselves to do it. The defense of this nation and it's citizens is after all one of the few activities the government was originally required to do from day1 of our existence. If the government insists on passing laws that benefit their particular party at the expense of what's right and best for the nation as a whole, I can see no reason to havethat government for anything. Oh, and for those that think the majority of weapons going to the cartels are coming out of gun shows in the US, you are wrong. It's estimated that firearms reaching the cartels excluding those stolen from the Mexican military or police, having origin in the US, is approximately 6%. The overwhelming majority of weapons imported for the cartels are coming from Brazil and Argentina. Don't beleive me, check it out.
Most of the people responding to this problem are too young to remember that in the 1920's you could legally buy "drugs" at the local Drug Store. The song that has the words in it that "I get no kick from cocaine" sung by Frank Sinatra, showed that it was a common usage.
Why not make it all legal again. Those people that abuse it (and die) are then no longer leaches on our society. Take the profitability out of the drug trade and the cartels would dry up.
Comprehensive immigration for the illegal ? I don't think so !
Fortunarely or unfortunately you dismantled the only mob that could have taken care of this garbage. You traded one evil for a greater evil. You will not solve the problem by legalizing drugs. The governemnt will price and tax it out of the reach of most like ir does cigarettes and alcohol and other products IT deems harmful. Then you will stil heve bootlegging and wars for control of what's left. Don't kid youself, legalization is not the answer, it the cowards way out. You think DWI is a problem, legalize drugs and wait and see.
Not quite sure how making pot legal makes DWI's more of a problem? Its always been a problem and always will be, this isnt going to change this, becuase its a judgement call that is the problem not the drug. Its so easy for people to get pot with being illegal, the kids that dont smoke it, dont becuase they choose not to, just like kids that choose not to drink. So I dont see how making it legal would increase the risk of DUI's in the long run?
It dident in Amsterdam, and they have one of the lowest addiction and crime rates in the world.
Well I do believe you are right. I lived for many years in the San Diego region of southern Calif and could see the problems starting even then. Don't get me wrong. There are many many wonderful, honest, hard working, god fearing families of hispanics living in this country. But now many more are coming in that are the drug cartels. Pot should be made legal and grown here, taxed yes but not to the point that it would still be a benefit to the cartels to still try to push it here. I think we have waited to long to really get a good handle on this. I feel for all Americans living along our Mexican border. They will have a real hard time in the foreseeable future.
You traded one evil for a greater evil.
Kind like Iraq?
Why legalize drugs that are illegal and a sin to do? I'm sure the majority on this site have tried one or more drugs in their life to know the ramifications it can cause in a persons life. Spouse abuse, neglect on their children, lose your job, lose respect, lose your mind, LOSE YOUR LIFE! Legallizing drugs is not the answer to the problem. BURN IT ALL! Burn every village that grows it. Incarcerate every single drug dealer for life. If we can't stand up and fight for a good cause we might as well all lie down and let the drug cartel take over.
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Michigan: Smoking pot does not make people go on murder rampages, it does not make people go rob others, and it does not turn people into prostitutes to supply their habit.
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG!!!
You can think what you wish, we are all entitled to our oppinions, but the only reason any of the crimes associated with weed happen is becauase its illegal. Its illegal so the people who control it are gangs/cartels, they are the ones causing the violence not the pot smoker in his basement. Sorry I grew up in inner city Detroit and have NEVER seen a strung out pothead looking to sell her body for a joint, thats jut not how the drug effects you.
Dis-572070, What are you nuts, Educate yourself, marijuana is about as dangerous as TEA, Asprin kills 500 pr year in america. Marijuana 0 . Are you a cop a DEA terrorist or plain uneducated, Marijuana has never in human history harmed a soul, the prohibition has killed thousands. Find a new Job the war on drugs is a failure.
No, as a rule pot doesn't promote that kind of behavior. Usually the opposite.
Yes Jeff, I have educated myself. I prefer to say NO to drugs! and who's to say that when the pot-smoker can't afford to buy it, he won't go out and shoot for it?! How do you think drug dealers collect their money now-if you don't pay up-you're dead! You can say what you want about marijuana - it's still no good.
DLS: You sound like you'd like to step in as the dictator to replace Saddam Hussein. "Burn it all", what an infantile position. Are you older than 16 or just a teeny-bopper with some angst to vent? PS. It isn't a good cause, by the way. It's just another IRAQ, a created sideshow.
If it were legally produced it would be much cheaper and the clerk at the gas station who sold it to you would probably call the police if you didn't pay up, not shoot you. The argument here isn't that marijuana isn't bad, it's that making it illegal causes more problems than it solves.
DLS is seriously delusional. Pot heads shooting people.....? Wow! You keep saying no..to reality that is.
Its simple , legalize drugs , the profit is gone the cartels go away . Educate our youth with facts not propaganda , and drug use goes down problem solved , money saved , But most of you retards want to keep fighting a 70 year old unwinnable war .
At least if they legalized pot it would give them a lot more resources to fight the other drugs.
Would you allow your heart surgeon to partake of a few reefers just before performing a triple bypass on you. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Nope and I wouldn't allow him to drink prior to surgery either, what does your comment have to do with anything? I did not say allow people to get stoned and go to work, you cant drink and go to work. Come up with a logical argument and get back to me.
Big difference in recreational habits such as drinking or smoking weed and doing it on the job, cynics like to lump them together.
...as much as I would like him to take a few sips of Scotch before the operation.
Another meaningless comment, Scrooge2. A man spends an extra 15 years getting a specialized education and he's going into surgery as a drug-addled practitioner? Your reality must be clouded in some sort of chemical fog.
Scrooge2 fails to realize that there are many more dangerous legal drugs his doctor could be on. Legalize and tax--the only intelligent solution.
I'm glad bush and his crooks are out of office or we would not even be hearing any of this. Now we can get something done. If Mccain was elected we would have 4 more years of mexican drug money running the US.
I urge everyone to pick up arms and protect your families and your country. We the people need to send a msg to our government and the drug lords. Or are we a bunch of cry babies. you decide.
Got news for you, Obama is slowing down the fence "reviewing it". Bunch of crap! And your right to bear arms is in seriously in jeoplardy due to HOUSE BILL 45 in committee now (I think). Your right to protect your family is going to be taken away by Obama and Pelosi and company. This bill, among other things, can force YOU to undergo a Psychiatric evaluation (at your expense, of course) to carry a concealed weapon. Not to mention the million dollar insurance policy they want to make ALL gun owners have to pay to even own a gun "in case of accidental shootings". In other words, they will make it so costly , the only ones who have guns will be the thugs on the streets, who trade and steal them, but they will know where to come and get yours when all else fails.
Obama and the Democrats, I don't care what they say, are NOT friends with the Second Amendment!
There is also a new law that several states are doing with concerns to ammunition. Those states are requiring ammo to have a serial number on them. Some states have already started this as of the first of this month. It also makes it a crime to reload your own ammo as well as possess any unserialed ammo after 2011.
Somebody needs to shove some serfial numbers up their a$$es!
Alcohol didn't cause the high crime rates of the '20s and '30s, Prohibition did. And drugs do not cause today's alarming crime rates, but drug prohibition does. – US District Judge James C. Paine, addressing the Federal Bar Association in Miami, November, 1991
Could not agree more
Here, here!!
It is illegal for a reason - unfortunately people cannot control themselves...
No it is illegal because in the 50-60s the government attributed rights movements, anti-war protesting, and hippie's to smoking pot. The government seen weed as an immoral thing that caused people to be anti-government.
Ewe...! There's some truth to that...but a majority can and do...and the majority would like to make their own choices and not be told what their choices are by either the government or moral dictators.
Maria . It is illegal due to corporate manipulation of our senate, Marijuana prohibition came about through the banning of hemp, the greatest natural plant fiber in the world, clothing, paper, card board, 100% recyclable. Google, (NORML.ORG) and read . If you are truly american you will look, what you will find will really suprise you.
Marijuana- non addictive-non violant- can not OD period, no withdrawl.
It is about as dangerous as TEA, Really,
So true. I don't want to even think about all the crimes that will take place because someone used crack and thought they could take on the world. Or how about father setting down after work and reading the paper and snorting a line then killing his kids and wife because he thought they were monsters.
Everyone that thinks it should be legal to have should be made to use it all. Make their families use it too. Then lets see what they think.
You have alot of people in this country that just want to make money. They don't care how it will affect thos around them or their country.
If they make any of it legal then they need to make it law that the owners of the farms and thier familes use it everyday.
It is illegal because the government said it is. Not necessarily the best of arguments.
It's illegal because DuPont and William Randolph Hearst wanted it that way. The hemp was a threat to big business, and besides, only blacks and Mexicans smoked it anyway. They killed several birds with one stone, and the American people - of all ethnicities - are STILL paying the price (surprise!).
I still believe a vast majority cannot control their drug use - it becomes a problem. I am not talking about marijuana (was told is harmless as Tea*). Once you need hourly hits to function - you have a problem.
The weed prohibition got started from the southwest states trying to keep mexicans from coming across the border in the 20's and 30's. They made it illegal slowly, but the first step was to issue a 'stamp' that you had to buy to possess it. The problem with it was you had to possess it to buy the stamp, but since you didn't have a stamp to possess it, you were in violation and charged with illegal possession. Look it up. Also, to maria above, I guess the people who drink several cups of coffee daily to 'function' also have a problem? Once again it comes down to personal responsibility. Something that is becoming an extinct philosophy in this country.
i have to agree with angie.....dupont was a huge reason behind the prohibition of hemp/canibis. hemp was a major competetor to the paper business...dupont pushed a product that rampaged forests and used enviromentaly harmfull chemicals. hemp farms are renewable and the paper has hardly any harmfull byproducts from production. dupont was in it for the money
"o" will not do anything to curtail the immigration of Mexicans infact he will try to maje it as easy as pie for them to become US citizens thus ensure more votes.........
And Kevin 383769......although I supported Bush with most of his agenda I did not support his immigration policy which by the way was the one area where he went along with the Democrats...why on earth do you think Bush pissed off the conserative right in this area..He was trying to reach across the isle and it was the wrong thing to do....The Dems are the ones that want to cater to these people.....thats how they get thier votes after all....
Legalize marijuana and use that money to pay for National Guard soldiers to lend a hand to BP and Customs. In other words militarize the border instead of that Merida crap that is NOT going to work. Mexico has militarized it why the hell cant we? And also why the hell does the US "always" tries to solve everything by throwing money at it? Someone please give me an answer.
This is not a NEW problem as the title of the article would suggest. It has been an ongoing problem, one that was ignored by Bush and will be ignored by Obama. For whatever reason, no one wants to pi$$ off the Mexican government. We give them billions of dollars, take care of their people illegally in the US and they always want to threaten us if we don't do exactly what they want. They get treated better than Americans do and it's sad.
When are WE going to wake up and take our country back, from both illegals AND the government that caters to them?
And you can place a lot of the blame on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce - they want the illegals here to do the work for a lot less pay than the big businesses would have to pay Americans and in less safe work environments, too.
That deserves to be said again. And yet again.
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Thanks, Lou Dobbs.
Its going to get ALOT worse. 30,000 illegal immigrants in California prisons alone. Last week California states if an inmate is released from a state prison and they re-offend which 80% do they will go to a federal prison. Feds say no room and staff to deal with it most will just be released. Most are directly related to drug cartel. And TOR most of these drugs are herion and Meth. Not MJ. Herion still being the choice drug.
Our head of Homeland Security hails from Arizona which has the largest kidnapping problem out side of Mexico city. What does she talk about when she speaks before Congress.....hurricanes. Does anyone have any hint of a clue what is happening??
Arizona is the kidnapping capital of the country because Obama's head of Homeland Security Janet Reno used to be the Governer here. It's no suprise to me that she is talking hurricanes while this mess is going on. She has always been an open border advocate.
Chapman - you are wong about Janet Reno. She isn't a former governor and she isn't on the current cabinet. I heard Arizona was 49th in education, but common.
Janet Reno was the Attny General in Miami, Florida. At the time Miami had the highest crime rate, so pres made her Drug Czar. That never made sense to me.
It seems like highest crime rate = worst enforcement.
Why send apprehended illegal Mexican back where they are nice and warm and cozy. They like WARM. Let's make a deal to send them to the outer reaches of Alaska -- some nice COLD tundra area maybe where they can live in tents with only a few days fuel for their campfires. As soon as word gets back, fear will set in. Talk about a deterrent? Wow!
America needs to close its borders to Mexico.