He better pray that the USA does not collapse because they will follow us shortly. USA is a strong nation and has been for many years. We will stand strong no matter what. That's what we do. We face many hardships, yet we come out on top! God bless the USA!
This is the same thing that Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity have been saying, does this mean their talking points come from Russia?
I think it's more likely that the eastern half of Russia will be annexed by the Chinese. The next time Sara P looks out her window she will be able to see China.
When the Russian economy runs into problems, they have always run these "scholars" out to do their little dance for the public. This has been going on shince the 1920's when the first economic plans started failing. The general perception by political scientists is that when these guys start popping up in Russia, it really means that the Russian government really believes the Russian economy is tanking and needs to divert attention elsewhere.
By contrast, the United States tends to focus on ourselves and our problems even when the problems are worldwide. Con trast the two views: 1) The Russian --- our economy is strong, but look over there, the U.S. is going to break up exactly like the USSR did. 2) The U.S. view --- if we turn ourselves around, the rest of the world will turn around with us.
The media's been pumping this guy and his whackjob theories for months (years?). The story never changes, so why does it keep showing up on the front page again and again and again?
Surely there are other nutty theories you guys can promote other than just this guy's.
Because MSNBC and left wing media are pumping as much doom and gloom as possible so when WE THE PEOPLE finally start spending again they can make Obama look like a GD Hero.
16 000 000 000 people so that American Pie would be served on ice!
Why America looking for new enemy? So that USA would sell WMDs and later create lies to go back to the seen of the crime to look for WMDs that "could come back in the shape of the mushroom cloud"!
"The story never changes, so why does it keep showing up on the front page again and again and again? "
Because the big bad scary russian makes you click on the link. (sorry no media consipiracy, just profit)
Also in general russian science is very advanced so the link ropes those people in as well. This person is just a proagandists. Wonder if he has a future in radio or TV.
I agree that America will see an economic collapse before the end of 2010.
The reason? Obama and our congress have chosen to mess with those of us who have been financially responsible, and have sided with those who have been financially irresponsible. That is simply 'nuts'.
I am proud to say that I never voted for a Clinton, or a Bush, or Obama. I vote libertarian mainly as a vote against all incumbents, and I can proudly say that I (and not Obama) am a true agent for change. Obama is just one more of the same party to which Bush and Clinton have belonged.
And, I reserve the right to criticize all equally. It's called freedom of speech.
It's amazing how the media has all joined hands to sing a song of gloom and doom for the American economy. Why is MSNBC even giving bandwidth to this Russian crackpot? It seems to me that the American media and Rush Limbaugh need to get a room. They both hope that the President's stimulus plan will fail. What a bunch of fools.
It is a sad day for America when Russia is predicting our downfall; they have had this happen to their country and let their country be divided into many different nations; we as americans have no desire to separate ourselves from our country, so Russia get over it. My fears have come to frution, I was afraid that another Country like Russia will smell blood and want to invade us or do some other stupid crap, they all underestimate Americans. Russia has made big mistakes, underestimating us will be another one.
The Roman Empire was just like that, but it collapsed, just remember that, every major empire has collapsed and mostly don't ever come back, if they do is in a smaller version.
China and India are emerging after years of colonial rule; but they are mostly an exemption to the rule, so don't be so confident the US won’t ever fall.
After the fall, some nation(s) will fill the vacuum of power.
This could all come to fruition if the Republicans and the Democrats cannot come together and put aside their petty differences, the times we are in now require bi-partisan cooperation. We are all AMERICANS first, political party affiliations mean nothing when it comes to the preservation of our constitution and our way of life!
Mr. Panarin has gotten publicity for saying the same thing last year, before the last presidential election when he was quite sure that McCain would be elected. He ignores a few things about the good old USA:
we're all Americans, unlike former confiscated countries that became part of the USSR autonomous collective at the end of WWII and returned to their original statehood when Gorbachev dismissed the Poliburo;
we bought Alaska from Russia, fair and square; it used to be called Seward's Folly; look it up;
he still thinks that communism will return and the USSR will spring back to life;
we've been through economic crises before, pulled together, survived and moved on.
We are not the country we were before. We are a divided country with no identity. We have allowed so many foreigners to come into this country and not become part of us like little Italy, China town and every other group who just uses us to send money home. At any one time thanks to our government and our two party system half of this country does not agree with the other. We let this happen to our country. We elected loser after loser and let them rape the American life style. We have allowed so many illegal aliens into this country that you hardlyever see an American anymore. This is not the country that everyone is taking about coming back so many times, it is just a weak imitation being led by leaders who would sell us at the drop of a hat to put money in their pockets.
I SAY, "SHOW HIM WHAT OUR AMERICAN SPIRIT IS ALL ABOUT EVERYONE!!" DO WHAT WE HAVE TO TO GET OUR NATION BACK BETTER AND STRONGER THAN EVER BEFORE! I'm so sick of listening to foreign countries laughing at us and saying we're weak. Our country and citizens are so much better than that. JOIN TOGETHER AMERICANS and start thinking like a nation of winners and stop acting like the world is coming to an end. We're the GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD - START ACTING LIKE IT! I plan to start today. I've been putting off buying new flooring for my home. I've decided to stop acting like I can't change what's happening to my country and I'm going out and buying that flooring. I know it's just a small thing, but I will also know I tried to do my part to help. How about you guys? Do you enjoy listening to all these foreign countries and leaders laughing at us? Then if your able to financially, don't put off your purchases any longer. Your nation needs your help. Show the world that the GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD has the greatest citizens in the world.
This was published several months ago and since then Obama has gone on a spending spree that no one has ever beaten as far as sinking us in debt. The Russian say they will get Russia back if we split up lol Of course, that would mean they'd control even more resources making them more powerful.
If someone does not stop this 36B/day spending spree, then we may go bankrupt before the end of 2009
This is still less of a crisis in terms of inflation and unemployment than what we went through in the late 70's early 80's. As for what some Commie thinks,who cares?
At any one time thanks to our government and our two party system half of this country does not agree with the other. We let this happen to our country. We elected loser
They say "two heads are better than one." I will add "unless they think the same, then one of them isn't needed." If we all agreed with each other, then I think the country would fail. As long as we can disagree and still come to a compromise, this country still has a long life ahead of it.
Bonita I understand your frustration with what was said, But, We have to think for ourselves NOW!! Where are we in time? What is GOD'S NAME? Do we as Americans KNOW? NO!! We have LOST our way, Our values and our Beliefs! We as Americans are LOST! We THINK GOD name is GOD? The Muslims tell U.S. His name is ALLA! HAAAA! ALLA is the Arabic name for GOD spoken in Arabic. OUR founding fore fathers knew HIS Name!! DO WE KNOW HIS NAME and DO WE CARE enough to Call out to HIM??!!
Russia's economy is about 1/10th ours, and even China has an economy 3 times greater than Russia's. I guess he just enjoys the limelight. Fooled AP and MSNBC, but of course that's not hard to do.
From what I understand, this guy is going to co-host a tv & radio show, with Rush Limbaugh, Shaun Hannity, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck (if sober) Bill O'Reilley, Sarah Palin, and the "I have sinned evangelical pastor Jimmy Swagget. The show is going to be called Bad Mouth the USA--. This show ought to be a hit with bigots, racists, religious zealots, homophobics & prejudiced individuals. Major quality needed--being ignorant.
Who is this Bozo and where did the Kremlin dig him up? Sounds to me like the guy has been living in a fish bowl for the last few years. He's living in the wrong era and misses the Kruschev years! Except that Putin likes him, it's a wonder that people take him seriously.
He is working from Russian experience. Please remember that the USSR collapsed. To Russians, the idea of collapse is no big stretch. Collapse, to them, is more of an "of course!" idea.
The original headline was "Russian analyst says U.S. will collapse next year",now he's a "Scholar".This thug in a suit is no scholar ,he's a chimp. Of course since the Putin retirement plan often involves plutonium in your food or the old school method of a bullet in a field, maybe he is concerned about job security.
Well, now we know who ought to be the leader of the Republican Party! Rush Limbaugh has got to be glad this guy is from Russia because he is saying the same things but much more eloquently. Yep, they say this great nation of ours was going to decline and fall from the beginning. We survived the American Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the 'Gilded Age' the Great Depression, World War Two, the disruptive period in which we grant equal rights to all of our citizens and ended an unjust and immoral War in Vietnam. We survived Nixon and Watergate. Now we have another challenge, overcoming the horrors of the Bush Administration but we will survive and thrive!
Don't forget the Obama bankruptcy plan. (His plans that are going to bankrupt us, that is).
I agree that there is likely a serious economic collapse going to happen. After Bush incompentence, we have Obama, just more of the same, just a lot more expensive. I am not sure anymore he has any more of a clue than Bush did. I am hopeful, and will give the guy a chance, but with the Pelowsy and Reid-iculous led Congress, my optimism is waining.
We didn't break up after the Great Depression, and I doubt the US will break apart after this economic collapse, but we will be different. Hopefully better. In an economic collapse, perhaps the conglomerates, and corrupt business (banks, mortgage Co's, etc) won't be able to afford to buy themselves our politicians, and they can get back to working for the people. Imagine if they did this now, we wouldn't be in this position.
Panarin has been predicting the imminent collapse of the United States since the late 1990s. But before we can disintegrate, we need to have a civil war, massive immigration, and decline into moral degradation. I think we have the economic decline covered.
I'm trying to imagine Tennessee and Kentucky skipping off to the European Union next to New York and Massachusetts, or Utah and Idaho joining California in falling into the Chinese orbit, and all it's doing is making me laugh.
Right-wing nuts? What the hell are you talking about? This was posted on MSNBC, hardly a right wing media outlet. It was stated by a Russian who is in bed with Putin, hardly a right-wing russian leader.
Why do people always have to attack? Why can't they just state their viewpoint and allow others the right to theirs.
I'm an independent moderate. I disapproved of Bush, and am giving Obama time, but he scares me a little too. I have to say, I'm turned off by the left's attack and destroy mentality lately. I was used to it from Rush and kind, but now the left has gotten worse then they are lately.
Panarin's predictions may be inspired by vodka, but they must not be taken lightly. There is a colossal gap between this "prediction," and the news today by the major U.S. media outlets that "President Obama's popularity is at its highest." Why so much disparity between how Russians see and American media see? It would be interesting to put these two on Nightline or some other reputable show, so that they can both explain their thinking to the world! I for one am convinced that Obama's "optimism" is the most dangerous thing that can happen. We have exported our American Dream to China, so Mr. Panarin may have not be entirely off mark! Who knows what will happen in a year. The fact that "American men are turning increasingly homosexual" is certainly an ominous sign of moral decay. What I would do, is to scrap the Roe v. Wade, for starters, to get on the side of God. Then, I would pray for Grace to find timely answers to what appears to be a smorgasboard of deadly potions which America has brought upon herself. Mr. Obama: tell us the whole truth, how you will make "change", which you promised! The time may be running out!
If the USA collapses we are taking the rest of the planet with us.. :-) Russia has been asking for a fight for a long time, maybe it is time to give it too them
FYI: - Russia owes nothing to no one.....be careful you can't beat/win fighting amatures in flip flops and wife beaters(Iraq) - and you want to fight Russia?????? ahahahahahahhahahhahhah...$#$%#%#%#%
Um. No. Russia does not owe us a thing from WWII.That was the terms of the lend-lease program - return or destruction of the equipment. We learned from WWI that requiring repayment of loans from war-devastated economies was a very bad idea.
However, the allied victory would not have happened without Russian sacrifice. We needed them far more than they needed us. Let's just review a few things, shall we?
America lost 418,000 lives, the USSR lost 23 million.
USSR's airforce consisted of 14% US supplied planes.
USSR didn't like or use Sherman tanks which they considered low-quality and chintzy compared to their own.
USA did supply trucks in quantity, most of the trucks in the Soviet Army were American by the end of the war.
We invaded at Normandy, not because we had to in order to win the war. We invaded Europe to meet the Soviet army on its way East. If we had not, the entire continent would speak Russian today.
And if Russia had not stopped the Nazi's at Stalingrad, Europe would be german speaking today. The reason the Allies could stop the Nazi army was because they ran out of oil to run their war. The push into Russia was to get oil from Central Asia and the Middle East. The push across Africa was to get oil from the middle east and Central Asia. The idea was that one or the other would work.
Russia paid the biggest price of all for WWII. No nation compares to Russia's sacrifices. That should be respected.
"We needed them far more than they needed us. Let's just review a few things, shall we?"
Frankly that is untrue. The US would have been victorious over the Germans with or without the Russians, in fact the same could possibly be said about the Russians, buy you forget that the US was fighting a two front war, if the Japanese had chosen to east instead of aggravate the US would things still have turned out the same? If the US had chosen to focus all its industrial strength on the Germans alone it would have been more than enough, the US was a far richer and better developed country than Soviet Russia with the advantage of its homeland being far from any battle lines, in regards to how air strikes would affect industrial capability. Also the Americans didn't go into the war bereft of talented leadership because of the purges by Stalin. A man like Patton would have been executed long ago in Soviet Russia.
"America lost 418,000 lives, the USSR lost 23 million." This state tells me that the US was way more affective in waging war against the Germans and Japanese than the Russians, they didn't force poorly armed men to charge machine gun emplacements like the Soviets, with the threat of being shot by their own commisars if they didn't.
"USSR's airforce consisted of 14% US supplied planes." 0% of the US airforce consisted of soviet planes, so I don't know how this illustrates how we needed them more than us.
"USSR didn't like or use Sherman tanks which they considered low-quality and chintzy compared to their own." The Soviet tanks were better than the early Shermans, though not by much, they had exposed fuel containers. The late model Shermans were far better than many realize.
I am not disrespecting Russias sacrifice, verily this war was won by a colelction of nations, not one alone, but I feel that much of Russias casualties resulted from incompetant leadership from the paranoid Stalin and his cronies, and if I had to pick a nation that tipped the war into the Allies favor it was when the US finally entered that war. When the US entered it brought forth the strongest industrial power, unhindered by any war time bominbg of its faciltities, with ample and easily reached natural resources.
I believe we are too late for that! We as TRUE AMERICANS need to Read & Study OUR BIBLE, not the Koran! Where are we in TIME, according to the BIBLE, which by the way our founding Forefathers based their trust and writtings with? I truly believe we are in the LAST DAYS of TIME according to the BIBLE! PLEASE READ REVELATION, chapters 17 & 18 We are the HARLOT that decieved the whole world with our technologies. The world was made RICH through U.S.!! Now WE have to figure out WHO or What is the BEAST that has carried U.S.??
I think your going off the deep end a little bit. There are people in this country who study the Koran. My ancestors came to this country for freedom of religion. That means we can worship whatever the heck we want. The men in my family have fought in every war for this country since before it was even founded. I decented from Senator John Jordan Crittenden who is a good example of the American dream and how sometimes you have to loss everything inorder to do wants right for our country and our people and ourselves. It is not easy to see past what you are use to, to see what you should do. Often it takes a major event for people to open their eyes and realize they have been wrong. We have to put down our differences and work together. We don't need communism, but we do need to be willing to lift eachother up. All of the parts need to be working together inorder to make this machine run.
We need to work with Russia and China, but that doesn't mean we have to trust them, and it doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to their actions. The main reason for working with them is to get as much info out of them as possible. We do not want Russia and China to gang up on us, which is what appears to be happening now. The lack of new oil reserves is a major issue. We are not seeing it right now, but as soon as we try to make a recovery oil will go through the roof and stay there. Other countries are saving and using more oil and leaving less for us. There is not enough to go around. We cannot give Russia Alaska because we need that oil. China is taking advantage of us with trade. Their county is doing very well right now and that says a lot considering how much oil and how many people they need to feed. They have also been busy massively building up their army for unknown reasons. Russia wants oil bad, who knows what they are willing to do to get it.
It was just last summer that a "Russian analyst" predicted $400 per barrel oil.
It's easy to pile on fears, trends, or provide an echo chamber.
But it would be Foolish to simply assume America will always BE. We have this country thanks to all who went before us, fighting for it the entire way {not just referring to military endeavors}.
exeder they need to take sarah palin with them if they steal alaska back! explain to me why we have to take the VP choice with when we vote??? can't we just give the runner up the job?
Tad, i dont know if you watch Russian things, but Putin took over a Russia in chaos, with deficits, the GNP was in fall, and after 2000 till now they had annual growth around 6-7%, they paid off the national debt, and started moving again forward..he is not a saint, but for his country is good...
Im confused how this is related to conservative pundits? Weren't liberal pundits forshadowing the doom of the entire world during President Bush tenure? I just assumed it was a part of politics, the group out of power paints a grim picture of the world, while the group in power paints the picture of potential. If anything I see conservatives laughing amongst themselves at the ridiculous proposals by this 'expert'
The world was stable before the Bush family stole two elections. Now the old rivalries are returning and the world has been made ripe for WWIII, but Obama will calm everyone down.
The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia's Federal Space Agency and reportedly an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the United States that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin.
Wow, his prediction is the same as his governments view...shocker !! I wonder when he was told about his prediction !
I do not think his delusional prediction even for a share of per cent match with the real views of the Russian government on the future of the United States. Russian central bank buys American debt receipts, Russian Foreign Ministry is trying to conclude a long-term agreements with the U.S., Putin had never talked about the breakup of the United States. Western media need to stop rebroadcast nonsense, invented by all kinds of russian nutjobs, and portray it as an official position of the Russian government.
Is he kidding me. First of all, with the cultural phenomenon. There are school shooting al over this world. There are also gay men all over this world. He is full of it. If China and Russia gain power in this world, then we will be facing a new era of communism. We don't need to go backwards in time. The US will face hard times, but will pull through anything thrown at us. This is nowhere near as bad as we have been in the past around the Civil War where we were near to breaking apart, the Great depression, or World War II.
Russia is in the same boat we are. China depends on trade with the U.S. Russia has drained their oil reserves and they haven't been able find anymore. They want Alaska for it's oil. There just might be a war over oil and there may be mass immigration due to global warming, but we have some time. We need to protect our borders now more than ever before. We can prevent civil war and the collapse of our country by sticking together and working as team. Trading with China has hurt us, but we need their support. We need to watch them closely. I am concerned China may be using trade to gain strength while disolving ours with the intention of taking us down. It's a fine line we are walking and it's really hard to say who we can trust.
Hmmm....Russia is in the same boat we are? Reminds me of "something" "someone" once said..."Mr. Gorbachev, Tear Down This Wall!". So, they did. But, then, "someone" paid no attention while Russians struggled to adopt Pax Americana and "someone" turned a deaf ear. Gee...I can't imagine who that "someone" was, can you?
The collapse of America in a 20 minute lecture? Why did msnbc give this any attention at all? You should stick to the woman with the 14 kids. She has more depth, which doesn't say much for most of the garbage on msnbc.
I believe, according to the Bible, this is not going to happen! That is why WE need to read and understand what the BIBLE SAYS. The Muslems tell U.S. what the KORAN says but WE are not able to Tell them what our BIBLE SAYS! In the last days Russia along with the Kings of the North will try and overtake Isriael, which means Iran. We as a PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING because we ARE A LOST GENERATION, overly educated by IDIOTS!
He has no specifics or data on which to base his opinion, so its just like everyone else with an opinion. But when he makes headlines with it, there is power in his words. Did Iran seed him with these ideas? He can get away with saying something so bold in the international media, but Iran saying it would only bring a firestorm of oposition. Unfortunately, he voiced what many of us are concerned about, but won't openly admit it.
The thing that he didn't calculate (because he doesn't understand it) is the national versus state pride in the USA. Our nation comes first. In Russia, it's the opposite. They have no problem dumping their country for the sake of their state. It's the exact opposite in the USA. We are united in good and bad times. We all complain, but at the end of the day we are proud to be Americans......Can Russians say that about being Russians???????
I think your statement is more apt about the Soviet Union, member states in that country did not think of themselves as countrymen, the Russians thought of them selves as Russian, Ukraine as Ukranian, Kazakstahn as Kazakstahn. I have now doubt the Russians are proud to be Russians, I don't think they held the same pride in being Soveits. Americans are very proud of being Americans, state pride, outside of the level of affinity you see for your college, is considered abnormal.
I've been openly calling for a breakup of the US since the election, when it became clear to me that the Bible Belt and the rest of the nation have become so diffrent, they should simply become their own countries and save the rest of us their grief.
many of us in upstate NY have been saying this about NYC for years. Please make them there own state so we can keep the Citiots south of Dutchess County!
So they don't agree with you, they should just go off on their own and save you the grief. Do you realize they likely don't agree with you, but aren't barking for you to go away.
When you say "rest of us", you don't speak for me, probably only socialists who are totally intolerant of anyone else. Shame on you. You are likely the case studies he based his theory on. You are judgemental and critical of anyone not like you, that you would rather break apart than work together. Oh and it's the repubs who are partisan. Ha!
Anyone who wants any part of the country to succede is more than welcome to go travel to their 'ideal' nation that they want the US to become, otherwise they can just sit down.
"Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men."
Russia has always kept the number of imprisoned people close to the vest, and one would be hard pressed to find many Russian straight guys, of course, most of the shootings in russia are carried out by the KGB, so it seem like they got things in hand over there...
Way to MSNBC!! You keep pushing doom and gloom crap like this and all the mindless sheep will keep thinking the sky is falling. Keep it up and maybe this propaganda will come true.
Why don’t you run some real news like the fact my US company is VERY busy and hiring?
My prediction. MSNBC will go bankrupt in the next two years. How could any company, that actually pays Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews a salary to do what they do, actually survive in today's marketplace. The only program worth watching on MSNBC is the weather, but that is wrong about 3 of 4 times.
It is not just about a few companies doing well (and I am truly happy that yours is. What are you doing to accomplish this? Maybe you can help other companies). The fact remains, that millions of hardworking, legitimate taxpayers are now out of work. There is a disaster in the making of huge import should we, as a nation, not begin to understand that distributing the spoils of a decent and just society is not the same as redistributing wealth. The rich can keep their wealth. All I want is a fair shake at living the simple, frugal life I and my family prefer.
I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion (OK, maybe I will) but I will tell you this. My company is somewhat recession proof, consumer spending does not instantly effect us; however, it will eventually. I guess you really need to ask yourself why you are out of work (without propaganda and blanket statements of blame).
Example:....I have a friend who was a mortgage broker, he is out of work, WHY? Not because of Bush or because of 'The Rich'. He is out of work because for the past decade low interest rates and supply and demand drove land and home values to artificially high levels. At the same the banking / mortgage companies were willing to extend their debt / income ratio and let Americans get over their head. While that was happening the self indulgent / keep up with the Jones average citizen spent irresponsibly and rolled things like massive credit card debt into their mortgages. When the bubble burst two things happened.
-People could not re-finance to roll their latest debts into their homes because they owed more than it was worth.
-People could not sell because they owed more than the home was worth (and people NEED to sell homes all the time for a variety of reasons).
The real-estate market blew up and my friend was out of work. Now, I just said it without saying it was Congress's fault or Bush's fault because it WASN'T, it was the fault of the American people who were so irresponsible and the banks who let them be.
This whole economic crisis started with that; however, much of the media's doom and gloom attempts to ensure the average citizen hated and blamed Bush has blown this whole thing WAY out of proportion. Now, MSNBC is publishing crap like this make the average citizen hold their wallet even tighter. This has killed consumer confidence and I bet led in some part to YOU and many others being out of work.
The president needs to go out and say 'Hey America, that stimulus check you are getting and the tax breaks I'm promising are so you will SPEND your money, that will fix the economy!' Don't put it under your mattress because if you do it won't be worth the paper it's printed on by 2010'. At the same time MSNBC and CNN and the like need to focus more on the POSITIVE news because NOTHING will change if the Lambs who watch them keep thinking the sky is falling, it will only get worse.
That is fair but my FEAR is that with Obama we will all have the exact same frugal existence soon, once again just to make sure we are clear, it's called socialism. Help people when they need it BUT don't build a society dependant on it.
I agree with you Hank, but I just wanted to know what is holding piglizard back. Simple, frugal living could be a lot of things to a lot of people. I bet it's different in Mexico than in the U.S. for instance.
"'Hey America, that stimulus check you are getting and the tax breaks I'm promising are so you will SPEND your money, that will fix the economy!' Don't put it under your mattress because if you do it won't be worth the paper it's printed on by 2010"
Yeah dont under the mattress, pay off your credit card, put it in savings. Consumer spending was part of the problem these past few decades. We cannot return to the old way of doing things, take a cue from the greatest generation.
Everybody I know saw it. I'm a California liberal, as are all my friends, but we are armed and would fight for our country and our freedom. Fortunately, I don't think the Russians are in any condition to be a real threat.
He better pray that the USA does not collapse because they will follow us shortly. USA is a strong nation and has been for many years. We will stand strong no matter what. That's what we do. We face many hardships, yet we come out on top! God bless the USA!
If we reach the point of near collapse, Russia and the rest of the world will already be in the bottom of the bowl waiting for us...
This is the same thing that Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity have been saying, does this mean their talking points come from Russia?
I think it's more likely that the eastern half of Russia will be annexed by the Chinese. The next time Sara P looks out her window she will be able to see China.
but does it matter when the world will end in 2012 (insert snarky noise here)...
When the Russian economy runs into problems, they have always run these "scholars" out to do their little dance for the public. This has been going on shince the 1920's when the first economic plans started failing. The general perception by political scientists is that when these guys start popping up in Russia, it really means that the Russian government really believes the Russian economy is tanking and needs to divert attention elsewhere.
By contrast, the United States tends to focus on ourselves and our problems even when the problems are worldwide. Con trast the two views: 1) The Russian --- our economy is strong, but look over there, the U.S. is going to break up exactly like the USSR did. 2) The U.S. view --- if we turn ourselves around, the rest of the world will turn around with us.
The media's been pumping this guy and his whackjob theories for months (years?). The story never changes, so why does it keep showing up on the front page again and again and again?
Surely there are other nutty theories you guys can promote other than just this guy's.
Because MSNBC and left wing media are pumping as much doom and gloom as possible so when WE THE PEOPLE finally start spending again they can make Obama look like a GD Hero.
Why is it Anti-American?
Neocons are Anti-American!
Russia helpped America in many wars!
WWII and now with terrorists.
16 000 000 000 people so that American Pie would be served on ice!
Why America looking for new enemy? So that USA would sell WMDs and later create lies to go back to the seen of the crime to look for WMDs that "could come back in the shape of the mushroom cloud"!
"The story never changes, so why does it keep showing up on the front page again and again and again? "
Because the big bad scary russian makes you click on the link. (sorry no media consipiracy, just profit)
Also in general russian science is very advanced so the link ropes those people in as well. This person is just a proagandists. Wonder if he has a future in radio or TV.
Two words for this man
Nut Job !!!
Because of school shootings and the number of gay men in America ?
I repeat... Nut Job !!!
I heard he's going to be the next Fox News political analyst this Spring.
And apparently he's appearing on Rush's show next week.
I agree that America will see an economic collapse before the end of 2010.
The reason?
Obama and our congress have chosen to mess with those of us who have been financially responsible, and have sided with those who have been financially irresponsible. That is simply 'nuts'.
I am proud to say that I never voted for a Clinton, or a Bush, or Obama. I vote libertarian mainly as a vote against all incumbents, and I can proudly say that I (and not Obama) am a true agent for change. Obama is just one more of the same party to which Bush and Clinton have belonged.
And, I reserve the right to criticize all equally. It's called freedom of speech.
The Russkies are crazy. Look what Khrushev in the 1960's said. We will bury the U.S. economically and physically. Never happened. Go USA.
It's amazing how the media has all joined hands to sing a song of gloom and doom for the American economy. Why is MSNBC even giving bandwidth to this Russian crackpot? It seems to me that the American media and Rush Limbaugh need to get a room. They both hope that the President's stimulus plan will fail. What a bunch of fools.
It is a sad day for America when Russia is predicting our downfall; they have had this happen to their country and let their country be divided into many different nations; we as americans have no desire to separate ourselves from our country, so Russia get over it. My fears have come to frution, I was afraid that another Country like Russia will smell blood and want to invade us or do some other stupid crap, they all underestimate Americans. Russia has made big mistakes, underestimating us will be another one.
The Roman Empire was just like that, but it collapsed, just remember that, every major empire has collapsed and mostly don't ever come back, if they do is in a smaller version.
China and India are emerging after years of colonial rule; but they are mostly an exemption to the rule, so don't be so confident the US won’t ever fall.
After the fall, some nation(s) will fill the vacuum of power.
I think this looney should be on Limburger's show...kind of a "point, counterpoint" thing...I'd listen, just for kicks...
This could all come to fruition if the Republicans and the Democrats cannot come together and put aside their petty differences, the times we are in now require bi-partisan cooperation. We are all AMERICANS first, political party affiliations mean nothing when it comes to the preservation of our constitution and our way of life!
And for the American view on this matter read: "Empire of Debt: The Rise of an Epic Financial Crisis" by William Bonner and Addison Wiggin.
This has been a Dr. Zook post: "Just enough truth to be believable."
We will be here. I hope!!!
Mr. Panarin has gotten publicity for saying the same thing last year, before the last presidential election when he was quite sure that McCain would be elected. He ignores a few things about the good old USA:
we're all Americans, unlike former confiscated countries that became part of the USSR autonomous collective at the end of WWII and returned to their original statehood when Gorbachev dismissed the Poliburo;
we bought Alaska from Russia, fair and square; it used to be called Seward's Folly; look it up;
he still thinks that communism will return and the USSR will spring back to life;
we've been through economic crises before, pulled together, survived and moved on.
We are not the country we were before. We are a divided country with no identity. We have allowed so many foreigners to come into this country and not become part of us like little Italy, China town and every other group who just uses us to send money home. At any one time thanks to our government and our two party system half of this country does not agree with the other. We let this happen to our country. We elected loser after loser and let them rape the American life style. We have allowed so many illegal aliens into this country that you hardlyever see an American anymore. This is not the country that everyone is taking about coming back so many times, it is just a weak imitation being led by leaders who would sell us at the drop of a hat to put money in their pockets.
I SAY, "SHOW HIM WHAT OUR AMERICAN SPIRIT IS ALL ABOUT EVERYONE!!" DO WHAT WE HAVE TO TO GET OUR NATION BACK BETTER AND STRONGER THAN EVER BEFORE! I'm so sick of listening to foreign countries laughing at us and saying we're weak. Our country and citizens are so much better than that. JOIN TOGETHER AMERICANS and start thinking like a nation of winners and stop acting like the world is coming to an end. We're the GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD - START ACTING LIKE IT! I plan to start today. I've been putting off buying new flooring for my home. I've decided to stop acting like I can't change what's happening to my country and I'm going out and buying that flooring. I know it's just a small thing, but I will also know I tried to do my part to help. How about you guys? Do you enjoy listening to all these foreign countries and leaders laughing at us? Then if your able to financially, don't put off your purchases any longer. Your nation needs your help. Show the world that the GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD has the greatest citizens in the world.
Every President claims NOW is the time to put aside petty differences and form a bi-partisan coalition.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
It's ALL about party power, and this administration is no different.
This was published several months ago and since then Obama has gone on a spending spree that no one has ever beaten as far as sinking us in debt. The Russian say they will get Russia back if we split up lol Of course, that would mean they'd control even more resources making them more powerful.
If someone does not stop this 36B/day spending spree, then we may go bankrupt before the end of 2009
This is still less of a crisis in terms of inflation and unemployment than what we went through in the late 70's early 80's. As for what some Commie thinks,who cares?
They say "two heads are better than one." I will add "unless they think the same, then one of them isn't needed." If we all agreed with each other, then I think the country would fail. As long as we can disagree and still come to a compromise, this country still has a long life ahead of it.
Bonita
I understand your frustration with what was said, But, We have to think for ourselves NOW!! Where are we in time? What is GOD'S NAME? Do we as Americans KNOW? NO!! We have LOST our way, Our values and our Beliefs! We as Americans are LOST!
We THINK GOD name is GOD? The Muslims tell U.S. His name is ALLA! HAAAA!
ALLA is the Arabic name for GOD spoken in Arabic.
OUR founding fore fathers knew HIS Name!!
DO WE KNOW HIS NAME and DO WE CARE enough to Call out to HIM??!!
Russia's economy is about 1/10th ours, and even China has an economy 3 times greater than Russia's.
I guess he just enjoys the limelight. Fooled AP and MSNBC, but of course that's not hard to do.
He is most likely looking into their own Future, and not the US.
From what I understand, this guy is going to co-host a tv & radio show, with Rush Limbaugh, Shaun Hannity, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck (if sober) Bill O'Reilley, Sarah Palin, and the "I have sinned evangelical pastor Jimmy Swagget. The show is going to be called Bad Mouth the USA--. This show ought to be a hit with bigots, racists, religious zealots, homophobics & prejudiced individuals. Major quality needed--being ignorant.
Who is this Bozo and where did the Kremlin dig him up? Sounds to me like the guy has been living in a fish bowl for the last few years. He's living in the wrong era and misses the Kruschev years! Except that Putin likes him, it's a wonder that people take him seriously.
The Kremlin should offer Rush Limbaugh a job, he's already acting as their foriegn correspondent, on location in the US.
When Rush ends his show he should say, "Back to you, Vladimir."
you mean he isnt?
I'll give you WWII (don't forget that the U.S. supplied Russia with weapons across the Bering Sea). And that's about all.
If Russia apprehends any Al-Qaeda terrorists, I'm sure they'll let us know.
Well he may have something here. Guess time will tell
This is propoganda, pure and simple.
Steve: It is pure propaganda. I'm wondering how much Panarin was paid to say this or maybe he's just kissing up to Putin to solidfy his job security.
Or maybe he was "encouraged" to say this by "prime minister" Putin?
He is working from Russian experience. Please remember that the USSR collapsed. To Russians, the idea of collapse is no big stretch. Collapse, to them, is more of an "of course!" idea.
I think they bought on of the 5 Books by Joe the Plumber... and now have a rule and guide to go by
Or maybe he was encouraged by U.S. politicians to help make us come together as a nation again.
If we are here, at least it won't be because we held people hostage with a gas pipeline, in the dead of winter.
The original headline was "Russian analyst says U.S. will collapse next year",now he's a "Scholar".This thug in a suit is no scholar ,he's a chimp. Of course since the Putin retirement plan often involves plutonium in your food or the old school method of a bullet in a field, maybe he is concerned about job security.
Well, now we know who ought to be the leader of the Republican Party! Rush Limbaugh has got to be glad this guy is from Russia because he is saying the same things but much more eloquently. Yep, they say this great nation of ours was going to decline and fall from the beginning. We survived the American Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the 'Gilded Age' the Great Depression, World War Two, the disruptive period in which we grant equal rights to all of our citizens and ended an unjust and immoral War in Vietnam. We survived Nixon and Watergate. Now we have another challenge, overcoming the horrors of the Bush Administration but we will survive and thrive!
fsw, be optimist, since you survived the G.W period, nothing worse can come to you-)
Don't forget the Obama bankruptcy plan. (His plans that are going to bankrupt us, that is).
I agree that there is likely a serious economic collapse going to happen. After Bush incompentence, we have Obama, just more of the same, just a lot more expensive. I am not sure anymore he has any more of a clue than Bush did. I am hopeful, and will give the guy a chance, but with the Pelowsy and Reid-iculous led Congress, my optimism is waining.
We didn't break up after the Great Depression, and I doubt the US will break apart after this economic collapse, but we will be different. Hopefully better. In an economic collapse, perhaps the conglomerates, and corrupt business (banks, mortgage Co's, etc) won't be able to afford to buy themselves our politicians, and they can get back to working for the people. Imagine if they did this now, we wouldn't be in this position.
Gosh, you mean a U.S. politician can be bought. We have shown that we still have the best government "THAT MONEY CAN BUY".
Panarin has been predicting the imminent collapse of the United States since the late 1990s. But before we can disintegrate, we need to have a civil war, massive immigration, and decline into moral degradation. I think we have the economic decline covered.
He's a political hack and a nut.
WSJ ran this in December. Probably a bit of psy-ops. But, Panarin was accurate concerning the break up of the USSR.
KS
Why are the right wing-nuts touting the same line, who's side are they on ???
I'm trying to imagine Tennessee and Kentucky skipping off to the European Union next to New York and Massachusetts, or Utah and Idaho joining California in falling into the Chinese orbit, and all it's doing is making me laugh.
Burllap Mudflap,
Right-wing nuts? What the hell are you talking about? This was posted on MSNBC, hardly a right wing media outlet. It was stated by a Russian who is in bed with Putin, hardly a right-wing russian leader.
Why do people always have to attack? Why can't they just state their viewpoint and allow others the right to theirs.
I'm an independent moderate. I disapproved of Bush, and am giving Obama time, but he scares me a little too. I have to say, I'm turned off by the left's attack and destroy mentality lately. I was used to it from Rush and kind, but now the left has gotten worse then they are lately.
Panarin's predictions may be inspired by vodka, but they must not be taken lightly. There is a colossal gap between this "prediction," and the news today by the major U.S. media outlets that "President Obama's popularity is at its highest." Why so much disparity between how Russians see and American media see? It would be interesting to put these two on Nightline or some other reputable show, so that they can both explain their thinking to the world! I for one am convinced that Obama's "optimism" is the most dangerous thing that can happen. We have exported our American Dream to China, so Mr. Panarin may have not be entirely off mark! Who knows what will happen in a year. The fact that "American men are turning increasingly homosexual" is certainly an ominous sign of moral decay. What I would do, is to scrap the Roe v. Wade, for starters, to get on the side of God. Then, I would pray for Grace to find timely answers to what appears to be a smorgasboard of deadly potions which America has brought upon herself. Mr. Obama: tell us the whole truth, how you will make "change", which you promised! The time may be running out!
If the USA collapses we are taking the rest of the planet with us.. :-) Russia has been asking for a fight for a long time, maybe it is time to give it too them
Well, the fact is that Russia was already an Empire long long ago before the curiosity of Columbus...
Maint
OK by me, but first the Ruskies have to loan us the money.
Russia still owes America money from WW11 lend lease program. They should repay us for our war material we provided so they could defeat Germany.
we should have squashed them then like the bugs that they are!!!
FYI: - Russia owes nothing to no one.....be careful you can't beat/win fighting amatures in flip flops and wife beaters(Iraq) - and you want to fight Russia?????? ahahahahahahhahahhahhah...$#$%#%#%#%
Um. No. Russia does not owe us a thing from WWII.That was the terms of the lend-lease program - return or destruction of the equipment. We learned from WWI that requiring repayment of loans from war-devastated economies was a very bad idea.
However, the allied victory would not have happened without Russian sacrifice. We needed them far more than they needed us. Let's just review a few things, shall we?
We invaded at Normandy, not because we had to in order to win the war. We invaded Europe to meet the Soviet army on its way East. If we had not, the entire continent would speak Russian today.
And if Russia had not stopped the Nazi's at Stalingrad, Europe would be german speaking today. The reason the Allies could stop the Nazi army was because they ran out of oil to run their war. The push into Russia was to get oil from Central Asia and the Middle East. The push across Africa was to get oil from the middle east and Central Asia. The idea was that one or the other would work.
Russia paid the biggest price of all for WWII. No nation compares to Russia's sacrifices. That should be respected.
"We needed them far more than they needed us. Let's just review a few things, shall we?"
Frankly that is untrue. The US would have been victorious over the Germans with or without the Russians, in fact the same could possibly be said about the Russians, buy you forget that the US was fighting a two front war, if the Japanese had chosen to east instead of aggravate the US would things still have turned out the same? If the US had chosen to focus all its industrial strength on the Germans alone it would have been more than enough, the US was a far richer and better developed country than Soviet Russia with the advantage of its homeland being far from any battle lines, in regards to how air strikes would affect industrial capability. Also the Americans didn't go into the war bereft of talented leadership because of the purges by Stalin. A man like Patton would have been executed long ago in Soviet Russia.
"America lost 418,000 lives, the USSR lost 23 million." This state tells me that the US was way more affective in waging war against the Germans and Japanese than the Russians, they didn't force poorly armed men to charge machine gun emplacements like the Soviets, with the threat of being shot by their own commisars if they didn't.
"USSR's airforce consisted of 14% US supplied planes." 0% of the US airforce consisted of soviet planes, so I don't know how this illustrates how we needed them more than us.
"USSR didn't like or use Sherman tanks which they considered low-quality and chintzy compared to their own." The Soviet tanks were better than the early Shermans, though not by much, they had exposed fuel containers. The late model Shermans were far better than many realize.
I am not disrespecting Russias sacrifice, verily this war was won by a colelction of nations, not one alone, but I feel that much of Russias casualties resulted from incompetant leadership from the paranoid Stalin and his cronies, and if I had to pick a nation that tipped the war into the Allies favor it was when the US finally entered that war. When the US entered it brought forth the strongest industrial power, unhindered by any war time bominbg of its faciltities, with ample and easily reached natural resources.
maint-870932
I believe we are too late for that! We as TRUE AMERICANS need to Read & Study OUR BIBLE, not the Koran!
Where are we in TIME, according to the BIBLE, which by the way our founding Forefathers based their trust and writtings with?
I truly believe we are in the LAST DAYS of TIME according to the BIBLE!
PLEASE READ REVELATION, chapters 17 & 18 We are the HARLOT that decieved the whole world with our technologies. The world was made RICH through U.S.!!
Now WE have to figure out WHO or What is the BEAST that has carried U.S.??
I think your going off the deep end a little bit. There are people in this country who study the Koran. My ancestors came to this country for freedom of religion. That means we can worship whatever the heck we want. The men in my family have fought in every war for this country since before it was even founded. I decented from Senator John Jordan Crittenden who is a good example of the American dream and how sometimes you have to loss everything inorder to do wants right for our country and our people and ourselves. It is not easy to see past what you are use to, to see what you should do. Often it takes a major event for people to open their eyes and realize they have been wrong. We have to put down our differences and work together. We don't need communism, but we do need to be willing to lift eachother up. All of the parts need to be working together inorder to make this machine run.
We need to work with Russia and China, but that doesn't mean we have to trust them, and it doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to their actions. The main reason for working with them is to get as much info out of them as possible. We do not want Russia and China to gang up on us, which is what appears to be happening now. The lack of new oil reserves is a major issue. We are not seeing it right now, but as soon as we try to make a recovery oil will go through the roof and stay there. Other countries are saving and using more oil and leaving less for us. There is not enough to go around. We cannot give Russia Alaska because we need that oil. China is taking advantage of us with trade. Their county is doing very well right now and that says a lot considering how much oil and how many people they need to feed. They have also been busy massively building up their army for unknown reasons. Russia wants oil bad, who knows what they are willing to do to get it.
Russia will collapse this year - must be true - somebody said it - this jackass just wants to be important - the the john boener of Russia
It was just last summer that a "Russian analyst" predicted $400 per barrel oil.
It's easy to pile on fears, trends, or provide an echo chamber.
But it would be Foolish to simply assume America will always BE. We have this country thanks to all who went before us, fighting for it the entire way {not just referring to military endeavors}.
You mean Russia plans to invade us and steal Alaska from us after we purchased it from them?
ha, we need to put the person in charge of returns at Walmart in charge of that one! No receipt no return!
send G.W to them, they will fall first..
The Russians don't need GW, they have Putin who is perfectly capable of collapsing Russia without much help.
Ex
No no no, we will sell it back to pay off our bond debt, plus they Ruskies are hot for Sara.
exeder they need to take sarah palin with them if they steal alaska back! explain to me why we have to take the VP choice with when we vote??? can't we just give the runner up the job?
Moscow will have a very sunny day at 10,000 degrees before they ever get alaska back.
Tad, i dont know if you watch Russian things, but Putin took over a Russia in chaos, with deficits, the GNP was in fall, and after 2000 till now they had annual growth around 6-7%, they paid off the national debt, and started moving again forward..he is not a saint, but for his country is good...
return Alaska, keep Palin-)
return Palin, keep Alaska -)
Maybe Palin will really become a Russia expert? :-)
See?
All of you CONservatives have more in common with the Russians than you care to admit.
Kak stranna!
Why hasn't Rush had this mutt on his show, they seem to agree on everything ??
Im confused how this is related to conservative pundits? Weren't liberal pundits forshadowing the doom of the entire world during President Bush tenure? I just assumed it was a part of politics, the group out of power paints a grim picture of the world, while the group in power paints the picture of potential. If anything I see conservatives laughing amongst themselves at the ridiculous proposals by this 'expert'
And look what happened.
The world was stable before the Bush family stole two elections. Now the old rivalries are returning and the world has been made ripe for WWIII, but Obama will calm everyone down.
Wow, his prediction is the same as his governments view...shocker !! I wonder when he was told about his prediction !
He may have to wait, the market is up by 80 pts.
Oh Great, now the Russian Government will have to give him a whole new prediction to make !
I do not think his delusional prediction even for a share of per cent match with the real views of the Russian government on the future of the United States. Russian central bank buys American debt receipts, Russian Foreign Ministry is trying to conclude a long-term agreements with the U.S., Putin had never talked about the breakup of the United States. Western media need to stop rebroadcast nonsense, invented by all kinds of russian nutjobs, and portray it as an official position of the Russian government.
Is he kidding me. First of all, with the cultural phenomenon. There are school shooting al over this world. There are also gay men all over this world. He is full of it. If China and Russia gain power in this world, then we will be facing a new era of communism. We don't need to go backwards in time. The US will face hard times, but will pull through anything thrown at us. This is nowhere near as bad as we have been in the past around the Civil War where we were near to breaking apart, the Great depression, or World War II.
Russia is in the same boat we are. China depends on trade with the U.S. Russia has drained their oil reserves and they haven't been able find anymore. They want Alaska for it's oil. There just might be a war over oil and there may be mass immigration due to global warming, but we have some time. We need to protect our borders now more than ever before. We can prevent civil war and the collapse of our country by sticking together and working as team. Trading with China has hurt us, but we need their support. We need to watch them closely. I am concerned China may be using trade to gain strength while disolving ours with the intention of taking us down. It's a fine line we are walking and it's really hard to say who we can trust.
Hmmm....Russia is in the same boat we are? Reminds me of "something" "someone" once said..."Mr. Gorbachev, Tear Down This Wall!". So, they did. But, then, "someone" paid no attention while Russians struggled to adopt Pax Americana and "someone" turned a deaf ear. Gee...I can't imagine who that "someone" was, can you?
The collapse of America in a 20 minute lecture? Why did msnbc give this any attention at all? You should stick to the woman with the 14 kids. She has more depth, which doesn't say much for most of the garbage on msnbc.
By the tiime the Us collapses Russia will be invisible.
picksix
I believe, according to the Bible, this is not going to happen! That is why WE need to read and understand what the BIBLE SAYS. The Muslems tell U.S. what the KORAN says but WE are not able to Tell them what our BIBLE SAYS!
In the last days Russia along with the Kings of the North will try and overtake Isriael, which means Iran. We as a PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING because we ARE A LOST GENERATION, overly educated by IDIOTS!
Nonsense. Are there any other certifiably insane people MSNBC would like to do stories about? How about the guy who thinks he's a duck?
"Awww, 'tis the refuge we take when the unreality of the world weighs too heavy on our tiny heads." (Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolff)
The SAME story made the rounds more than a month ago - ver batim.
Why is this "newsworthy"? What are we to do about his speculation (that we're not already doing)?
He has no specifics or data on which to base his opinion, so its just like everyone else with an opinion. But when he makes headlines with it, there is power in his words. Did Iran seed him with these ideas? He can get away with saying something so bold in the international media, but Iran saying it would only bring a firestorm of oposition. Unfortunately, he voiced what many of us are concerned about, but won't openly admit it.
The thing that he didn't calculate (because he doesn't understand it) is the national versus state pride in the USA. Our nation comes first. In Russia, it's the opposite. They have no problem dumping their country for the sake of their state. It's the exact opposite in the USA. We are united in good and bad times. We all complain, but at the end of the day we are proud to be Americans......Can Russians say that about being Russians???????
Probably. Russian history is filled with failures and successes. Just like the US.
I think your statement is more apt about the Soviet Union, member states in that country did not think of themselves as countrymen, the Russians thought of them selves as Russian, Ukraine as Ukranian, Kazakstahn as Kazakstahn. I have now doubt the Russians are proud to be Russians, I don't think they held the same pride in being Soveits. Americans are very proud of being Americans, state pride, outside of the level of affinity you see for your college, is considered abnormal.
Russians are very proud of themeselves and their achivements and rightfully so. They also have much less faith in the goverment also rightfully so.
To me it sounds like he has been watching re-runs of Jerico...that was there story line....tell him to stop watching so much tv LOL
I've been openly calling for a breakup of the US since the election, when it became clear to me that the Bible Belt and the rest of the nation have become so diffrent, they should simply become their own countries and save the rest of us their grief.
I hope Texas is first
many of us in upstate NY have been saying this about NYC for years. Please make them there own state so we can keep the Citiots south of Dutchess County!
So they don't agree with you, they should just go off on their own and save you the grief. Do you realize they likely don't agree with you, but aren't barking for you to go away.
When you say "rest of us", you don't speak for me, probably only socialists who are totally intolerant of anyone else. Shame on you. You are likely the case studies he based his theory on. You are judgemental and critical of anyone not like you, that you would rather break apart than work together. Oh and it's the repubs who are partisan. Ha!
Anyone who wants any part of the country to succede is more than welcome to go travel to their 'ideal' nation that they want the US to become, otherwise they can just sit down.
Viva New Zealand!
Even the Russians watched "Jericho" on CBS. Bring back Jericho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hear, hear. One of the best TV shows in years.
I want to know how this civil war ends (in Jericho)
"Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men."
Russia has always kept the number of imprisoned people close to the vest, and one would be hard pressed to find many Russian straight guys, of course, most of the shootings in russia are carried out by the KGB, so it seem like they got things in hand over there...
Way to MSNBC!! You keep pushing doom and gloom crap like this and all the mindless sheep will keep thinking the sky is falling. Keep it up and maybe this propaganda will come true.
Why don’t you run some real news like the fact my US company is VERY busy and hiring?
My prediction. MSNBC will go bankrupt in the next two years. How could any company, that actually pays Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews a salary to do what they do, actually survive in today's marketplace. The only program worth watching on MSNBC is the weather, but that is wrong about 3 of 4 times.
It is not just about a few companies doing well (and I am truly happy that yours is. What are you doing to accomplish this? Maybe you can help other companies). The fact remains, that millions of hardworking, legitimate taxpayers are now out of work. There is a disaster in the making of huge import should we, as a nation, not begin to understand that distributing the spoils of a decent and just society is not the same as redistributing wealth. The rich can keep their wealth. All I want is a fair shake at living the simple, frugal life I and my family prefer.
I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion (OK, maybe I will) but I will tell you this. My company is somewhat recession proof, consumer spending does not instantly effect us; however, it will eventually. I guess you really need to ask yourself why you are out of work (without propaganda and blanket statements of blame).
Example:....I have a friend who was a mortgage broker, he is out of work, WHY? Not because of Bush or because of 'The Rich'. He is out of work because for the past decade low interest rates and supply and demand drove land and home values to artificially high levels. At the same the banking / mortgage companies were willing to extend their debt / income ratio and let Americans get over their head. While that was happening the self indulgent / keep up with the Jones average citizen spent irresponsibly and rolled things like massive credit card debt into their mortgages. When the bubble burst two things happened.
-People could not re-finance to roll their latest debts into their homes because they owed more than it was worth.
-People could not sell because they owed more than the home was worth (and people NEED to sell homes all the time for a variety of reasons).
The real-estate market blew up and my friend was out of work. Now, I just said it without saying it was Congress's fault or Bush's fault because it WASN'T, it was the fault of the American people who were so irresponsible and the banks who let them be.
This whole economic crisis started with that; however, much of the media's doom and gloom attempts to ensure the average citizen hated and blamed Bush has blown this whole thing WAY out of proportion. Now, MSNBC is publishing crap like this make the average citizen hold their wallet even tighter. This has killed consumer confidence and I bet led in some part to YOU and many others being out of work.
The president needs to go out and say 'Hey America, that stimulus check you are getting and the tax breaks I'm promising are so you will SPEND your money, that will fix the economy!' Don't put it under your mattress because if you do it won't be worth the paper it's printed on by 2010'. At the same time MSNBC and CNN and the like need to focus more on the POSITIVE news because NOTHING will change if the Lambs who watch them keep thinking the sky is falling, it will only get worse.
piglizard, that's fair. What is keeping you from having a fair shake and what is your definition of a simple, frugal life?
That is fair but my FEAR is that with Obama we will all have the exact same frugal existence soon, once again just to make sure we are clear, it's called socialism. Help people when they need it BUT don't build a society dependant on it.
I agree with you Hank, but I just wanted to know what is holding piglizard back. Simple, frugal living could be a lot of things to a lot of people. I bet it's different in Mexico than in the U.S. for instance.
"'Hey America, that stimulus check you are getting and the tax breaks I'm promising are so you will SPEND your money, that will fix the economy!' Don't put it under your mattress because if you do it won't be worth the paper it's printed on by 2010"
Yeah dont under the mattress, pay off your credit card, put it in savings. Consumer spending was part of the problem these past few decades. We cannot return to the old way of doing things, take a cue from the greatest generation.
Red Dawn, 2010 ... WOLVERINES!
ROFL! Hank, I loved that movie! I wonder how many people are around who've seen it?
My guess maybe 2 people on this board. If the Russians (or anyone else) invade this country that's exactly what they will get in my town :-)
Everybody I know saw it. I'm a California liberal, as are all my friends, but we are armed and would fight for our country and our freedom. Fortunately, I don't think the Russians are in any condition to be a real threat.
You bunch of terrorists :)